@@WeirdTroll666 nah I like ds1 but def not a glazer bloodborne and sekiro r my favorites. Ds2 is just a bad game. Bad bosses, lackluster areas, slowest combat, horrible mechanics (adp, hollowing health) just a fundamentally bad game
I like Pursuer, Ruin Sentinels, Executioners Chariot, Smelter Demon, Looking Glass Knight, Velstadt, Darklurker, Sinh, Fume Knight, Sir Alonne, Aava, Burnt Ivory King I think each of these bosses are much better than most of what I consider "good" bosses in DS1. I already have Sir Alonne>Artorias, Fume Knight>Manus, Burnt Ivory King>Kalaamet (best bosses in both games) I enjoyed DS2's gameplay more than DS1's gameplay. DS1 Level was a masterpiece of design and map design. However, as you mentioned, the second half of the game sucks, even worse than the entire DS2. DS2 gave me the feeling of a more personal adventure, and I don't know why, I think this game has similarities with Elden Ring. I can even say that DS2 is the ancestor of Elden Ring. DS2's unique themes make it more like Elden Ring than other Dark Souls. I think this game is better than DS1, it's definitely not the best souls game. But in my opinion, it is a much more fun and better game than DS1 (don't kill me) I'm glad you're warming to DS2 despite all the torture. You are a true Bearer of the Curse!
Man, you said what I would say for the most part, DS2 better gameplay and I dare to say that the DLC have better level designs that DS1, It is a personal adventure on the lore par tmore yes, and it is so similar to Elden Ring due to Tanimura being in charge, it's definitely an upgrade from DS1 despite all the nostalgia glazers, if the games were swapped and this was DS1, people would disappointed af for the ''sequel'', DS2 is so f*cking fun to play and do builds, the only people that don't understand are mostly str bonkers with 0 int
@@WeirdTroll666 I totally agree with you, my friend. DS2 DLCs are PEAK. I think Tanimura is great, souls games don't need Miyazaki to be successful. The latest Lies of P is the biggest proof of this. It's great to see people with good taste.
It's sad that people hate on dark souls 2 cuz they have 2 of the best bosses from the souls series Fume knight and Sir allone are just incredible. Very nice video everything was on point
1:39 Its 7 Last Giant Pursuer (that encounter earlier in the level is the boss) Dragonrider Old Dragonslayer Najka Royal Rat Vanguard Rotten And I may have forgotten someone. Realistically a new player will fight one of the first 3 but its 7. 6:09 Respect. Finding a DS2 hater that knows how to play the game is a rare sight.
Ds2 is and will probably be my favorite game until I die, keep in mind these games arnt about the boss fights or the cool sword you find, it’s the story and adventure
DS2 imo at least on the base game has the lowest highs. Maybe is because im a fan of complex boss fights though. Is basically the same reason why im not impresed with Midra and think is kind or overrated, the move variety can be very limited, and on bosses like Ancient Dragon or King Vendrick are a chore. And both diff relies on stats which is not my favorite thing.
@@JoseViktor4099 Again, I don't think they are good, but they are better than whatever ds1 bosses were. Most of ds1 bosses is just big hitbox that barely does anything. I do think my biggest criticism for Midra is that he is way too easy to punish. But even then it looks cool, music, lore is cool plus you can do some interesting stuff like crouch when he spins. But he's definitely more of a ds3 boss than an elden ring one (which is a negative for me).
"DLC is notorious for being good" *shows the worst area of the worst dlc* man i love DS2 but that dlc was beyond soul draining. The other 2 are awesome tho
As a fan of DS2 i confirm - most of the DS2 bosses are mid. It such a luck, souls game is NOT ABOUT THE BOSSES, despite everything new community think. DS2 was last true souls game and DS3 was the last game in wich we had at lest something from the souls genre. Everything else, Elden Ring, tonnes of indie souldlike games, bossrushes etc is not a souls games. They not bad games by any means biut they not the same genre as DeS,DS1, DS2 and Bloodborne.
I've played every souls game. I've beaten every game at least 10 times. Each one up to ng+7 Call me weird, but I love 2 just as much as the others. It's different, yes. But I won't say that this is not a brilliant game that I replay multiple times a year.
Really disagree on Flexile Sentry. It has a ton of unique and memorable qualities and is fun. Not saying it's amazing or anything, but it's one of the better bosses in DS2z
17:21 "It was a form of marketing as back in the day as the series was known for having epic bosses." Except, wrong. "Back in the day" Dark Souls was *not* known for having epic bosses. Boss fights only became a focus of the series with Bloodborne and Dark Souls 3. Demon's Souls and Dark Souls were far more about exploration and resource management than bombastic boss fights.
I enjoy DS2 and I have hundreds of hours in it. That being said my opinion is that it is easily the weakest in the series mostly due to the control and movement feeling. I cannot enjoy any of the boss fights as the character movement and hit detection takes away from every combat experience. The best way I can describe it is it just feels "off". As a bit of background, I began with DS1 on PS3. I then became obsessed and went through Demons Souls whilst waiting for DS2 to release. I was watching every gameplay video and trailer and looking at screenshots. I was so hyped it was unreal. I'd like to point out that I had no idea who Miazaki was, I had no idea there was a big discrepancy in staff team working on the game. I was not influenced by those things and was just excited for more Dark Souls. Within seconds of finally buying it on its release day the feeling of control, sluggish movement, hit detection and off looking art style just made me sad. I came to love the game over time but I can never truly enjoy it as much as any of the others in the series.
DS2 bosses are painfully boring compared to later titles. All quantity and little quality. If Elden Ring is what happens when they go overboard and give every boss a dozen roll catches then DS2 is what happens when every boss has slow, telegraphed, and BORING movesets. And even if DeS and DS1 are guilty of the same thing at least the number of bosses aren't bloated like DS2 is.
You have probably gotten this comment already but the last giant is the giant lord so ofcourse there moveset is gonna be similar because there the same enemy its just one is from the past and the other is from the present and you didnt really have a good argument on the giant lord yes it is similar to the last giant but its not even as bad as you made it sound and the last giant isnt as bad as you said and how were you fighting the last giant and giant lord from the front or behind because the behind is more fun to fight against on the last giant but the front for the giant lord is fun but not to go against and the sword is cool not as cool as The Persuers, Sir Alonnes and the Fume knight magma look sword (last part is just up to preferred looks) if there is anything else I dont see as fair or like I will add to this comment
@@Oknahidwin nah, it’s just a fact the sekiro fangirls can’t cope with. I’ll play ds2 with a ladle before I choose to run between the ashina castle outskirts 4x fighting the same 10 enemies over and over again
"That was a lie"
...of P?
DS2 is a good game, and I’m tired of pretending it’s not.
yessir!
No it’s not def not
@@AAs-ef7hj DS1 glazer I presume?
@@WeirdTroll666 nah I like ds1 but def not a glazer bloodborne and sekiro r my favorites. Ds2 is just a bad game. Bad bosses, lackluster areas, slowest combat, horrible mechanics (adp, hollowing health) just a fundamentally bad game
@@AAs-ef7hj I could say the same about Bloodborne bro (except the combat, can't argue there)
People forget "ds2 is wholly worse than ds1" means it went from a 9.8 to a 9.4. It's still great. Those dlc zones tho
I like Pursuer, Ruin Sentinels, Executioners Chariot, Smelter Demon, Looking Glass Knight, Velstadt, Darklurker, Sinh, Fume Knight, Sir Alonne, Aava, Burnt Ivory King
I think each of these bosses are much better than most of what I consider "good" bosses in DS1.
I already have Sir Alonne>Artorias, Fume Knight>Manus, Burnt Ivory King>Kalaamet (best bosses in both games)
I enjoyed DS2's gameplay more than DS1's gameplay. DS1 Level was a masterpiece of design and map design. However, as you mentioned, the second half of the game sucks, even worse than the entire DS2.
DS2 gave me the feeling of a more personal adventure, and I don't know why, I think this game has similarities with Elden Ring. I can even say that DS2 is the ancestor of Elden Ring. DS2's unique themes make it more like Elden Ring than other Dark Souls.
I think this game is better than DS1, it's definitely not the best souls game. But in my opinion, it is a much more fun and better game than DS1 (don't kill me)
I'm glad you're warming to DS2 despite all the torture. You are a true Bearer of the Curse!
Man, you said what I would say for the most part, DS2 better gameplay and I dare to say that the DLC have better level designs that DS1, It is a personal adventure on the lore par tmore yes, and it is so similar to Elden Ring due to Tanimura being in charge, it's definitely an upgrade from DS1 despite all the nostalgia glazers, if the games were swapped and this was DS1, people would disappointed af for the ''sequel'', DS2 is so f*cking fun to play and do builds, the only people that don't understand are mostly str bonkers with 0 int
@@WeirdTroll666 I totally agree with you, my friend. DS2 DLCs are PEAK. I think Tanimura is great, souls games don't need Miyazaki to be successful. The latest Lies of P is the biggest proof of this. It's great to see people with good taste.
It's sad that people hate on dark souls 2 cuz they have 2 of the best bosses from the souls series Fume knight and Sir allone are just incredible. Very nice video everything was on point
1:39
Its 7
Last Giant
Pursuer (that encounter earlier in the level is the boss)
Dragonrider
Old Dragonslayer
Najka
Royal Rat Vanguard
Rotten
And I may have forgotten someone.
Realistically a new player will fight one of the first 3 but its 7.
6:09 Respect. Finding a DS2 hater that knows how to play the game is a rare sight.
Ds2 is and will probably be my favorite game until I die, keep in mind these games arnt about the boss fights or the cool sword you find, it’s the story and adventure
lets hope from gets us back with another banger🐢
@@Crit-Multiplier haha no hopes probably guaranteed all 6 souls games are really fucking good
Respect your opinions but oh god, I could rant on every single boss and make a valid counter-argument if I had the time, this is infuriating lmao
Oh god lol as if we need a multiiple 16 hour video essay and creator flame fest thunderdome over this game once more
Honestly to me the boss roster was an all around C tier. Not very good, not very bad. Bosses were a lot better than DS1
I'd say it was around B, DS1 had so many D's
DS2 imo at least on the base game has the lowest highs. Maybe is because im a fan of complex boss fights though. Is basically the same reason why im not impresed with Midra and think is kind or overrated, the move variety can be very limited, and on bosses like Ancient Dragon or King Vendrick are a chore. And both diff relies on stats which is not my favorite thing.
@@JoseViktor4099 Again, I don't think they are good, but they are better than whatever ds1 bosses were. Most of ds1 bosses is just big hitbox that barely does anything.
I do think my biggest criticism for Midra is that he is way too easy to punish. But even then it looks cool, music, lore is cool plus you can do some interesting stuff like crouch when he spins. But he's definitely more of a ds3 boss than an elden ring one (which is a negative for me).
@@JoseViktor4099 true that it has the lowest highs main game but at least it doesn't have the lowest lows, it's consistent quality
"DLC is notorious for being good" *shows the worst area of the worst dlc* man i love DS2 but that dlc was beyond soul draining. The other 2 are awesome tho
As a fan of DS2 i confirm - most of the DS2 bosses are mid. It such a luck, souls game is NOT ABOUT THE BOSSES, despite everything new community think. DS2 was last true souls game and DS3 was the last game in wich we had at lest something from the souls genre. Everything else, Elden Ring, tonnes of indie souldlike games, bossrushes etc is not a souls games. They not bad games by any means biut they not the same genre as DeS,DS1, DS2 and Bloodborne.
DS2 is the single fromsoft game that I genuinely don't find myself looking forward to any particular moment or boss or anything
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Sir alonne kinda similar to artorias. Lets not forget artorias will do the spin sword slam constantly and often 4 or 5 in a row.
I've played every souls game. I've beaten every game at least 10 times. Each one up to ng+7
Call me weird, but I love 2 just as much as the others. It's different, yes. But I won't say that this is not a brilliant game that I replay multiple times a year.
Really disagree on Flexile Sentry. It has a ton of unique and memorable qualities and is fun. Not saying it's amazing or anything, but it's one of the better bosses in DS2z
17:21 "It was a form of marketing as back in the day as the series was known for having epic bosses."
Except, wrong. "Back in the day" Dark Souls was *not* known for having epic bosses. Boss fights only became a focus of the series with Bloodborne and Dark Souls 3. Demon's Souls and Dark Souls were far more about exploration and resource management than bombastic boss fights.
both the butcher enemy from ds1 and the lost sinner are both female enemies my guy
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I enjoy DS2 and I have hundreds of hours in it. That being said my opinion is that it is easily the weakest in the series mostly due to the control and movement feeling. I cannot enjoy any of the boss fights as the character movement and hit detection takes away from every combat experience. The best way I can describe it is it just feels "off".
As a bit of background, I began with DS1 on PS3. I then became obsessed and went through Demons Souls whilst waiting for DS2 to release. I was watching every gameplay video and trailer and looking at screenshots. I was so hyped it was unreal. I'd like to point out that I had no idea who Miazaki was, I had no idea there was a big discrepancy in staff team working on the game. I was not influenced by those things and was just excited for more Dark Souls. Within seconds of finally buying it on its release day the feeling of control, sluggish movement, hit detection and off looking art style just made me sad.
I came to love the game over time but I can never truly enjoy it as much as any of the others in the series.
lifegems are pretty strong, but not nearly as broken as humanities in DS1
The people that hate this game don't know how to play it. Trying to heal at bad times and not understanding when to use lock on. It's absurd
DS2 bosses are painfully boring compared to later titles. All quantity and little quality. If Elden Ring is what happens when they go overboard and give every boss a dozen roll catches then DS2 is what happens when every boss has slow, telegraphed, and BORING movesets. And even if DeS and DS1 are guilty of the same thing at least the number of bosses aren't bloated like DS2 is.
Imagine complaining that Elden Ring bosses actually punish you lmao. Like they are designed to be challenging
fair enough criticism
most bosses are optional bro, ds2 is a semi-open world to my eyes, much like elden ring
No shit they are boring compared to later titles, DS2 was released on the ps3
You have probably gotten this comment already but the last giant is the giant lord so ofcourse there moveset is gonna be similar because there the same enemy its just one is from the past and the other is from the present and you didnt really have a good argument on the giant lord yes it is similar to the last giant but its not even as bad as you made it sound and the last giant isnt as bad as you said and how were you fighting the last giant and giant lord from the front or behind because the behind is more fun to fight against on the last giant but the front for the giant lord is fun but not to go against and the sword is cool not as cool as The Persuers, Sir Alonnes and the Fume knight magma look sword (last part is just up to preferred looks) if there is anything else I dont see as fair or like I will add to this comment
Your so bad at the game it's hard to watch. Good points though
Soulslikes better than ds2: Lies of P, Nioh 2, Another Crab's Treasure
Wait until this guy realizes sekiro is the worst FS game
*best
@@zosonte129 please refrain from leaving idiotic replies on my comment.
Thank you.
@@PraisetheSun150 2/10 rage bait
@@Oknahidwin nah, it’s just a fact the sekiro fangirls can’t cope with. I’ll play ds2 with a ladle before I choose to run between the ashina castle outskirts 4x fighting the same 10 enemies over and over again
@@PraisetheSun150 3/10 rage bait
Ds2 walked so elden ring could run.