Jeannie is super strong, throughout these 2 seasons and the test run her cohost have given her lots of shade and lots of tough love too. You can tell she is open and listens to it to try to better herself. She doesn't get mad she honestly is such a kind positive friendly soul no amount of negativity from people will break her down.
+promprom Preach the truth girl !!!! I thought my eyes would never stop rolling ! Thinking like that only pushes women back. Making us look weak and too stupid to take charge or take on serious responsibilities.
+Grace Hun you know it's rarely ends well when you're in a discussion about female empowerment and someone throws a "well...the bible says..." like nope, thanks i think we're good lol
+atem15 and I bet you and everyone else on this post is single... What's wrong with being the neck that moves the head? Some of y'all "independent women" kill me with the "I can do everything by myself"...
+Sa'adia Williams +Sa'adia Williams Exactly! I read the comments on here sometimes wondering if I'm watching the same show as some people. These woman have discussions; opinions are never forced, they agree to disagree. They're like the ladies from the sex and city. I love that they are open with each other, just plain playfulness. Some are seriously looking for drama where there is none.
I thought so too, but watching Tamar and Vince shows that she might act that way but sometimes she has to bend and apologize first cause Vince can hold grudges and get really upset too.
Yea, but some women need to know the difference between "a man that's an alpha male" and "a man that is just straight abusive/controlling". Two different things ladies. Don't let him take too much control. Never forget that you are your own person. I agree with Tamera, there is such thing as compromise. I love my man and he is indeed the alpha male. I love when he can take control, but I never let him think that he can just run me. Relationships are pure compromise and about finding a balance. Lol. Some women don't know the difference between "alpha male" & "abusive".
+House of The Rising Sun she looks so good .. Not to be rude but maybe they should listen to all her "Lind windedness" she's put on that table because she's different that's great
Jeannie is mad hard on herself. She's that type of person who's very gung-ho about getting things done a certain way. It's obviously a great trait but also really harsh on the person herself. She definitely could benefit from some more pampering, relaxing and just enjoying life. Those types of people can sometimes push themselves too hard. I know, I _used_ to be like that.......
She really wants to be the best she can be, you could tell by how she was concentrating when they were talking to her. You can tell she takes criticism
I love Tamera but she certainly has a different image of herself and her husband then the rest of them. Neither one is an alpha "I can hang a picture" really?? 😂😂🍪
That's what I'm saying what so hard about hanging a picture????? How about something hard. It seems like most manly duties are once in a while or easy tasks. A women always has to be at work daily and this is apart from their career. This is dumb
Why are people so butt hurt in the comments because some women choose to let their man lead? I don't care what anyone says, there's nothing sexier to me than a man that knows what he wants and takes charge. There's a difference between being the head of the household and controlling. There's nothing wrong with wanting to be submissive to the RIGHT man.
Alpha female is NOT running a man, Tamar mammaaaaaa!!!! Why are you so ignorant 😩 There is such thing as a alpha female AND alpha male coexisting, you can interchange and have balance. Y'all are hitting the surface with this topic, it's not about who does what first, and who says the last word. Loni killed it with this topic tho!
Amen! 🙌🏼 me and my man are both beta and we liveee for it! We love the to challenge each other and the slight competition....it keeps everything exciting and fresh!
+Jewel Kitty I bet!! And that's what I personably need too. I need a man that'll challenge me mentally, like you said it's exciting and fresh😁 like, keep me on my toes and vice versa lol.
+Nallah Brown I meant we're both alpha lmao but looks like you got that 😹👌🏼 Yesss girl it's great and makes for a much stronger and more fun relationship! You'll find your alpha male 😊
why not let her think what she wants? she comes from a background where a man is the head of the house and thats what she believes. she's not telling you what to do.
The girls seem to judge Jeanie and Freddie relationship, but me personally prefer their relationship over Tamar and Vince, I never wanted a shadow relationship or to have to be around someone 24-7 to feel love. I feel Adam and Tamera are cute, but sometimes maybe too cute if that makes sense, but Jeanie and Freddie seem to have an understanding and a friendship where they are accepting and honest of each other imperfections and to me thats relationship goals.
OMG girl you said it! 100% I need me a Freannie kind of love. To me their relationship seems the most stable and realistic, and I'm all for that. Cutesy puppy love is great but I need a foundation of friendship and trust/honesty more than anything.
Jeannie seems like the only one open to self reflection. She wants to know what her flaws are and is willing to hear the hard truth. If she is that honest on the show it seems like her and Freddie probably have some deep conversations - conversations that I cannot imagine Tamar having with Vince or anyone else for that matter. Tamera and Adam probably share a deeper connection than Vince and Tamar, but not like Jeannie and Freddie. This is all in my mind of course. But, like you said, they seem to have a real relationship with understanding and friendship.
feel like vince and tamar are not balanced in the relationship, tamera and Adam too cute--> Boooooring and yes Jeannie and Freddy have the most healthiest relationship on that table. ( Adrienne included)
Jeannie's husband is submissive and a Beta.. She has brought numerous examples that proves it.. I don't like to run a man nor do I like to be controlled. I prefer both, Jeannie's and Tamera's relationships.. Tamar and Vince are too abrupt for me, I saw then on The braxton..
That's stupid live long enough and you will realise everyone has a role to play and personalities in a relationship dynamic will always create the dominant and submissive its nature
I agree, like I never felt this dynamic before, submissive? Dominant?. What is this bullshit? Like just live your life and stfu no need to use these terms.
I get so heated when a man thinks he has the last say or what he says goes. We are a Team. We make decisions TOGETHER, and if a man has a problem with that than BYE.
Every team needs a leader though. That's a man's role to be the leader and head of his household. That's a biblical standpoint from God's point of view of how marriage is supposed to work and being the creator of marriage wouldn't he know best?
A man will feel demeaned if he's being treated like a kid, u need him protect you and take care of you and yet at the same time u don't want him to take control, you know Hodor from GOT, get that guy he's a better match for u.
They sound like some 50's housewives. Especially Tamar. Tamera was wrong for bringing Jeannie's personal life into the mix but i still love her. Why they always trying to fix Jeannie's life? No one ever checks Loni for never really expressing her feelings on the show.
I'm a beta female, I've always been the quiet, obedient, shy type. I'm not controlling or dominant at all. Not to say I wouldn't stand up for myself or anything when needed because I will!
you're probably the smartest female i've see on this thread. the alpha/beta labels are foolishness. the "alpha" can still be a kind and caring person, and the "beta" can still get angry and fight for their rights.
PERFECT EXAMPLE OF KEEPING YOUR PERSONAL LIFE PRIVATE SO PEOPLE DONT JUDGE IT. Jeannie, some things you just have to fix in private. These girls don't care about your relationship.
The part where "the man should always have the last word" I couldn't disagree more.. like wtf. Also I don't think the women should respect the man more than he respects her. I have such problems with those stereotypical gender roles. I don't think I'm an alpha but I just don't like dominant male behavior either, I think both should he delta and equal.
Don't understand why there is hate in the comments bc these women want to be in submissive relationships.. It's not setting anyone back "50 years".. They are strong women doing exactly what they want to do. It's all "women need to do exactly why they want! Feminism is about choices!" Until it's something that you don't agree with, then it's passive or being a doormat? 🤔 I thought women were allowed to do what they wanted, SUBMISSION included.
I wish I were as vulnerable to share myself like These ladies are. They know themselves and can identify their traits and characters. And they're not afraid of criticism even if it's negative or constructive. They just are genuine people and have good hearts from what I see on the show! I love all these ladies!
Tamera sat up and cried during an interview when someone criticized her marriage. she doesnt get to turn around and do that to someone else, no matter how sweet she is.
Because she wants advice and keeps things real, she's not afraid of others judging her and to spill your bussiness on national tv takes a lot. I'm here for it👏
I feel like she was interrupted from what she was actually going to say. And then Tamera goes on and talks about Freddie. That's something you don't call your friend out on on national TV. Either you do that in private, or not at all, bc frankly her marriage is none of Tamera's business.
Anyone feel gross after watching this video? "Don't be strong and independent...your only job is to make a man feel comfortable being in charge." There goes female empowerment
I was raised by a single mother who is such an ALPHA FEMALE, and i have 2 sisters who are also ALPHA females.. They don't like being controlled or told what to do. I am such a beta male (also the only boy in my family) and not to mention i'm a pisces! oh well..
You sound like Rob Kardashian on a smaller scale. He has 3 sisters, 4 step sisters, and 3 sister in laws. Not to mention his mom, grandma, and aunts. All Alpha females. No wonder he tried to eat his self into oblivion. Can you imagine? His step brothers stay far far away. Wait! And now his step dad became Alpha X. (Big eyed emoji).
Are you kidding??? So disappointed in this segment. If you want to be submissive to your significant other that's fine. But the idea that women NEED to be submissive to men is ridiculous and belongs in the 1800s. Women are just as important and strong as men in relationships.
Exactly!!!! People just don't get how much alike men and women are. Both can be soft and strong interchangeably and that works perfectly ❤️you said it sis
As a latina I don't see anything wrong with submitting to your partner. I think they emphasized that he has to be the right one meaning a great leader. A good head on his shoulders. Submitting doesn't mean disempowering yourself. It simply means giving your partner validity. And equally it is his responsibility to tend to us. Make sure we are happy. As a woman it is our responsibility to choose the right man we are willing to submit to. He has to be worthy of it. He has to prove himself. He has to show he won't abuse it. He has to show he had good intentions all the time. For religious folks, follow the word of God. If he can't honor the word of God, for sure he ain't worthy.
I know right....and if someone says something about adam...she starts to cry....booeeehooeeee!! Bitch please..... its none of her business to talk about jeanines marriage!! Its really rude to talk about such private moment....especially when its not your marriage!
So she didn't set herself up? She put her business out there like that. And she also wanted advice. It was an open and REAL discussion so you get real answers rather they good or bad. Tf y'all so mad for?
I'm definitely a delta female. It's tough but you've gotta learn when to switch it up! Have mutal respect for each other and the relationship should work out fine.
This is so cringeworthy. "U have to submit" never heard bigger bs than that. Like this is teaching sexism to young women. I want to pull their hair out bc theyre trying to make a strong woman, who is proud of being strong submit, and be weaker. This is not a good message for young girls. I'm not even of the minorities you guys are from, but i know, that since u are one of the few shows featuring minority women, a lot of underrepresented young girls look up to you, and you are doing them so wrong by teaching them these stereotypes.
All females, young and old, it is okay to be either submissive or dominant. All males, young and old, it is okay to be either submissive or dominant. Just make sure in your relationship, you find a partner that is compatible to whatever relationship dynamics the both of you are comfortable with. I'm so sick of these gender stereotypes. If a man is intimidated by a dominant female, and feels as though he "can't be a man," then I guess that proves that naturally men are not more dominant then women. It is all personality traits that either a man or woman can be dominate or submissive. Neither being better or worse, it's all just preference. Our gender roles are taught. And the mentality of people like Tamar, Tamera, etc. who think that a man is "suppose" to lead is a dangerous one to continue to teach to young women (or women in general) . We are teaching our young women that they should play submissive, even in the event if they are natural-born leaders. If that is the case, that men should be in control and dominant, well then there should be no women CEOs, or women in leadership roles in or outside of the home if there is a man employed around, because a "man is suppose to be in control." This is obviously a ridiculous sentiment. I genuinely feel sorry for women who think like this, and hope that the next generation coming up don't share the same belief. I actually hope Tamar doesn't have anymore children (especially not a daughter, from her own mouth she has said she should teach young girls to twerk to fit in with the trend, and now this, encouraging her to be submissive to appease a man) and her departure from this platform will be good for the next generation of women coming up. They won't be influenced to believe that the man "should be the head of the house. And make the final decision in his house." Last time I checked it was 2016. It is not HIS house. A healthy household is one where it is seen as THEIR home, meaning both the man and the woman (in heterosexual relationships). In a healthy relationship, free of abuse and gender role stereotypes, both the man and the woman should feel it is equally either of their homes. Marriage/Relationships are partnerships.
That's what they all say, they end up wishing the man would lead. It sound good on paper, but people are basically going to be similar....it doesn't matter if it is 2080. There will always be gender roles...they might move or change over time but society will always cross them out and put new ones in. You sound passionate, but you are talking about two extremes, in real life there is compromise. Her mentality is not dangerous, it is people like you who think you should impose your ideas on others that are more dangerous(think hitler)....you see what i did there. I just called your opinion dangerous.. You don't have the capacity to determine how young girls will think or should think. you are just doing the same thing you complain society is doing and trying to force your opinion down, while disregarding that people will think in many different ways and come to different conclusions. I happen to like and will go for a man that can lead, an alpha male, a provider and protector. This is coming from a pharmacist in phd research and a woman, with a very dominant personality. Now that you read all of this, can i confess that i did not read all you wrote, only a fair portion, I just needed to tell you that people have different opinions, and we can share them, but no ones opinion is fact, your opinion is not the best way to live life and neither is mine.....
it's sad to see the ladies talk this way it's such an outdated way to think. wtf is tamar saying? ....and the fact a lot of yall agree in the comments is sad too. disappointing segment. I think we should all strive for balance in a relationship
That's awesome! I truly hope that if a burglar were to ever come into your house, you'd have the balls to stand in the forefront and protect your boyfriend/husband instead of the situation being the other way round =) Oh, what's that? Most women don't wanna do that because they think the man should protect the woman? But wait, what about equality? LOL. What a fucking joke. Women want privileges, not equality.
***** Ohhh, so you're saying that because men have the unfortunate fate of being born in such a way, we're the ones who have to sacrifice our body, limb by limb, just to protect the women around us, while women, just by virtue of being born as females, get to enjoy the luxury of physical security from a man? That sounds awfully equal doesn't it?=D No wonder feminists say that men are privileged in society, despite the fact that men are the ones who lose their lives just to protect the family, the citizens, and the entire fucking nation from harm. Darn, these feminists sure are for equality, aren't they?
***** I'm aware of that you dumbshit. I'm even educated enough to know that there is a difference between gender equality and gender equity, the latter being a concept that takes into consideration of sexual dimorphism between men and women, while the former doesn't. What I have a problem with is when feminists claim that we should strive for equality as if there aren't any differences between men and women. Men and women do differ, and they differ in strength, aggression, interests, sexual stimulation, etc. Feminists are behaving as if such differences don't exist. They spew out words like 'misogyny' or 'institutional sexism' whenever the results they want out of society are not met instead of considering the fact that the results might be the way it is because men and women are simply different in some ways.
***** I'm aware of that, but what i'm saying is that its unfair for nature to have made men the stronger ones, and thus, the ones who have to be responsible for women's safety at the expense of losing their lives. If nature has made it unfair for men in some aspects, why is it that feminists are constantly rambling about how men are privileged and women are victims in sociey? Seems to me that women are actually privileged in some regards, and men too are victims, doesn't it? Yet, feminists choose to disregard this idea.
this came at such a perfect time!! my bf went home for a funeral across the country and I am just now realizing just how much I value him. (this is the longest we've been apart in over a year!!) I am very much like Adrienne except I am very hesitant on submitting to a bf. watching this helps confirm to me that I should fall back and allow him to come into his own. Lord knows I cannot be with a passive man!
honestly?? i think jeannie is my favorite bc she's the only one that will choose the other side & develop a strong & solid foundation for it. i see her as the most candid & the most modern thinker for sure!!
Jeanie found someone that loves and appreciates her alpha side. No need to change yourself, the person who is meant to be with you will encourage you to be the person that you arr
First thumbs down I've ever gave to this show. I'm so upset. Don't feed a mans ego. No need to bow down to him and let him run the house. I agree there should be compromise but this is just disappointing. I hated this girl chat
Glad to see I'm not the only one. I guess they are from the older generation that were sadly taught this mentality. Its up to these newer, younger generation of men and women to change these dangerous gender stereotypes.
a real MAN needs to feel like he is the protector and leader of his household. its people who look down on this mentality and think its just "feeding a mans ego" that get cheated on and left QUICK...no shade
+Yasmine Xo if you need to cater to a man's ego in order to keep him from cheating you are bound to get cheated on from the jump. It's a control game. You behave submissively & STILL get cheated on. A cheater is a cheater & no behavior from a woman warrants it.
+Yasmine Xo that is not true! I have been with my man for 12 years & married for 9 & we are BOTH alphas. We have learned to make it work for us and neither have cheated. I definitely do not submit to my husband and he likes that about me as I don't submit to any one (he says he finds that sexy about me).
I love Adrienne but when she goes on with that submissive stuff it works my nerve but to each his own and Jeannie better not change a damn thing in her relationship what works for her and Freddie works for her and Freddie, Adam is FARR from perfect
I know right!!! Tamera and Adam try too much to be perfect....and the whole time i am thinking...are you trying to convince me or each other? Loni is single...Dont get me started about Adrienne's twisted daddy issues and her cheating old boyfriend! Vince and Tamar: No comments! ;) And Adam looks also very old!!! How old is he? 50?! I love the relationship between Freddie and Jeanine...they are honest about their marriage and honest to each other...like real friends who have a lot of fun! They are both kinda crazy and goofy :) And he is sooo beautiful and very nice to her and het family! And they are the longest married also!!!! Those girls are just mad, because they all know Freddie is the cutest and sweetest Husband!!! ;) Love from Amsterdam ♡
Its not about just submitting. Its about having higher standards for yourself, and your partner. You deserve to be heard with respect and gentleness. If you recognize that, then you'll speak up when you're listened to carefully and attentively, and pick people who rise to voice their concerns, not play passive aggressive. You'll be attracted to gentle and respectful men, because you will be gentle in your approach of speaking and respectful. You will value being treated with high honor that way. This is a matter of knowing your worth, so you can then only behave in your worthiness, and select people who treat you in your worthiness. Jeannie speaks over people due to fear of not being heard. She repeats her self due to fear of not being understood and judged/abandoned. When you expect people to treat you well, you speak once and know your voice is valid. You reject poor communication. You validate yourself. I think its a matter of boundaries and standards here.
I was raised by a single mother who is a alpha and I grew up that way. I will always be a alpha. I am too independent to let a guy control me or walk all over me. No body got time for that.
Im a business woman but I still desire to be submissive to a real man..Yes God!!! Submissive doesnt mean losing yourself, it means letting a man fulfill you in deep romantic ways that can truly only happen when you fully open to him. Im here for it lol
Yesss honey. I'm a small business owner and entrepreneur and after being all charge ALL day it's nice to come home and switch roles. To fix his plate, lay out his clothes, rub his back, all that. Serving for our man is often confused with weakness but it's really not. I think it takes more to serve than to receive and always expect.
*switch roles. To fix his plate, lay out his clothes, rub his back, all that.* Yep, and no surprise that those women who think it's a weakness can't ever seem to get or keep a man, lol.
+AllPro777 lol right. Im not saying to do that stuff all the time..but for the RIGHT man, there's nothing wrong with it. And if he's the RIGHT man im sure he has no problem doing those things for you as well.
I'm learning to be more submissive! It's actually kind of fun 😝 ....when you have a man you can trust and I agree with his decisions anyway...why not "follow"
Adrienne said it, you have to find a trust_worthy_ man. If a man is indecent or has poor judgment nobody should trust him period, not even his damn self lol. But a man with a strong sense of right and good judgment should absolutely take the lead, woohoo 😍
He admitted to cheating on his wife of twenty-something years, which got him kicked out of his church as a church leader. And now Adrienne's saying to find a "trustworthy man" with good judgment. hmmmm
I don't know why everyone's jumping on Tamar. Jeannie told her own business with her own mouth. There are no puppet strings. Nobody tied her up and made her speak about her issues with Freddie. She's a grown woman. All of them were trying to help her...so, she won't lose her man!
I didn't agree with this segment like a few others. Some girls like being the beta and that's fine ,but for them to say that women being in control is a bad thing makes me mad. And them trying say that they are the one's really in control but just saying there not to make their men feel good just means that they are in control. In fact why does there have to be an alpha in a relationship. Society is always trying to degrade people with who where's the pants. How about when one of us don't want to make the call the other does and if we both want to make the call we compromise and do this "you have more power so you make the call" game.
You're on the right track, stay on it. People out here wrangling over who's alpha or beta are focusing their energy on the wrong things. It has been and always will be about compromise. That's how humans have to be if we want to function as social creatures.
This show seriously perpetuates some old stereotypes.. Be all submissive so your man can feel all macho? I love this show but they do this all the time, it's not the 50s anymore.. Jeannie is the most progressive and trying to live life how she chooses and everyone always shames her.. Being alpha and not wanting kids doesn't make you a monster!!
I’m an alpha female on my own 100% but in a relationship I soften up to my man. I like my man to be smart and confident enough to lead, protect and take control. I like to feel safe and secure with my man and knowing he can handle any situation just as much as I can. We can make the best decisions for us together, doesn’t have to be one sided. I’m not trying to be a guys mother so I don’t like having to tell a man what to do all the time. I like a man that already knows what he has to do but willing to take suggestions from his Queen and confident enough to let his Quinn lead sometimes too. Two minds are better than one and two Alpha minds?! If blended with love and respect for each other then that’s a dynamic power couple!
I always got the impression Jeannie is not all that connected to her marrige, and whenever Freddie comes on the show, he is always somewhat passive aggressive when it came to couples topics with Jeannie. When they asked him to mimic Jeannie, the first thing he said was "No, not tonight, I'm tired."
At least Jeannie acknowledges her flaws. She's straight up controlling and tries to work on it. That's more than a lot of people can say for themselves.
I feel like in this show we learn so much about Jeannie's personal life. Like the real with her marriage and no1 else discusses their marriage problems so why do they put her on blast like that?
why is it always a problem when tamar says something to jeannie but when the other women say something there isnt a problem. The other women talked more about her relationship than tamar did but thats all anyone chooses to focus on.
madeyoulook No, I don't have to "shut up." As long as I'm NOT calling Tamar any foul names like she's a whore or anything like that, I can give my opinion. There are a lot of other people in the comment sections of these videos that say far nastier stuff about Tamar in regards to both what I think and just in general. Why is it that when I (someone who has said something completely *TAME* compared to them) comment about her, I am told to shut up and is bashing her? All I said was that she comes after Jeannie. How that's bashing is beyond me. And just a note, if you name call me I *WILL* block you. I won't tolerate being name called when I have not name called anyone else. So why don't you go talk to the *OTHER* people who have been calling her nastier things than I have and worry about them instead of someone who just happens to have a differing opinion?
lol ikr? Tamar's advice at the end was actually really good and not shady at all, for real. "compromise and chillax" yup, that's right. people will always want to hate on tamar though, it's what it is.
Lol, I struggle with this sometimes. I argue with my s/o a lot about not letting him be “the man!” But I was raised to be very independent, and trying to find a balance.
Submission (IMO) is not about letting your man run your life. You are allowed opinions and you are allowed to voice them. For me it means trusting him and especially at times where we can't come to an agreement I have to trust my man to take the lead. Find a man who also wants your opinion. I love serving my husband food and I love cooking for him, but I want it to be appreciated and I don't want it to always be expected. Expectations have a sneaky way of leading us to being less appreciative which I find myself doing as well.
um? she's just saying that she feels thats just in most men and womens nature. it was a bit sexist but at the same time she's older than most of us and just traditional. there's nothing wrong with that and clearly she values her happiness and knows how to get what she wants and can say no. its just about how she works hard in her daily life and would like to relax and let him take the lead in other areas of her life.
+Eboni Gray Tamar kept on saying that you should submit to a man because they rule the household, like it's 2016. A couple should run the household together.
Deciding if they should be Alpha or Beta based on what attracts a man is hella sexist. Women need to stop putting their worth based on what attracts men
I am just like Adrienne.. alpha on the outside but beta at heart. I seem very strong, bossy and serious but once someone gets to know me, I am just a sensitive goof ball and want a man who can take the lead. It is really hard to meet men tho they usually get scared off
i feel like everyone thinks Tamar doesnt like jeannie but in this episode everyone agreed that she is controlling so it wasnt just tamar.. goshhh give my girl Tamar a break and her lifs goal isnt to bring jeannie down... jeannie isn't the most perfect person in the world... Jeannie was the one bringing her personal business out there. She agreed herself that she is controlling
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I'm probably an Omega female, I do my own damn thing, maybe that's why my ass is single..
yes.
hahaha YES same
idk why this made me laugh. maybe because I can relate
ikno thats right
same, lmao!
I love Jeannie, she knows herself and she Is not afraid to show it.
I love the fearlessness too.
Jeannie is super strong, throughout these 2 seasons and the test run her cohost have given her lots of shade and lots of tough love too. You can tell she is open and listens to it to try to better herself. She doesn't get mad she honestly is such a kind positive friendly soul no amount of negativity from people will break her down.
I love how open and honest Jeanie is. Who agrees???
Moi!!
me too. shes not afraid to be real... unlike some ppl
Maiii!
Meeee!!!
If I've said it once, I've said it a million times, Jeannie is the REALest one on The Real!
Sighhh! If we are both paying the bills and taking care of the responsibilities then we are both the head of the household.
Loll good luck with that...
Nubian Queen LOL RIGHT!
+promprom Preach the truth girl !!!! I thought my eyes would never stop rolling ! Thinking like that only pushes women back. Making us look weak and too stupid to take charge or take on serious responsibilities.
+Grace Hun you know it's rarely ends well when you're in a discussion about female empowerment and someone throws a "well...the bible says..." like nope, thanks i think we're good lol
+atem15 and I bet you and everyone else on this post is single... What's wrong with being the neck that moves the head? Some of y'all "independent women" kill me with the "I can do everything by myself"...
3:34 Well dammmmmn Jeannie snapped.......and I'm here for it it's about DAMN TIME LOL!!!
eh semi snap
Yaasssss lol
Sa'adia Williams Yeah ok......stay entitled to your opinion. :)
that was snapping?
+Sa'adia Williams +Sa'adia Williams Exactly! I read the comments on here sometimes wondering if I'm watching the same show as some people. These woman have discussions; opinions are never forced, they agree to disagree. They're like the ladies from the sex and city. I love that they are open with each other, just plain playfulness. Some are seriously looking for drama where there is none.
tamar seems like an alpha female, she's dominant compared to vince
Nah He puts her in her place all the time...😭
I thought so too, but watching Tamar and Vince shows that she might act that way but sometimes she has to bend and apologize first cause Vince can hold grudges and get really upset too.
Heck no!! She does NOT "try" Vince the way she try's EVERYONE else
+NeilyMusic watch their show! Vince don't play with Tamar 😂
i think thats just the part we see, but at home its probably the opposite
Yea, but some women need to know the difference between "a man that's an alpha male" and "a man that is just straight abusive/controlling".
Two different things ladies. Don't let him take too much control. Never forget that you are your own person. I agree with Tamera, there is such thing as compromise. I love my man and he is indeed the alpha male. I love when he can take control, but I never let him think that he can just run me. Relationships are pure compromise and about finding a balance. Lol. Some women don't know the difference between "alpha male" & "abusive".
Jasmine Johnson amen
Wait Jeannies 37 they treat her like she's 17
I agree they treat her like she's less than... another thing....doesn't she look GREAT for 37?
+House of The Rising Sun she looks so good .. Not to be rude but maybe they should listen to all her "Lind windedness" she's put on that table because she's different that's great
She don't look 37. Every time someone reminds me, I be like, “Damn.”
As they say: Asian, no raisin! My mom looked 28-29 when she was 37-38 too.
+Helena gene goals
Great discussion! I think I'm more of a delta female, as Loni described it lol. Jeannie shouldn't be so hard on herself, poor thing.
Yeah jeannie is so cool i think she forgets thats sometimes
Jeannie is mad hard on herself. She's that type of person who's very gung-ho about getting things done a certain way. It's obviously a great trait but also really harsh on the person herself. She definitely could benefit from some more pampering, relaxing and just enjoying life. Those types of people can sometimes push themselves too hard. I know, I _used_ to be like that.......
She really wants to be the best she can be, you could tell by how she was concentrating when they were talking to her. You can tell she takes criticism
I agree. i enjoyed this discussion.
She is probably like that because how she grew up.
I love Tamera but she certainly has a different image of herself and her husband then the rest of them. Neither one is an alpha "I can hang a picture" really?? 😂😂🍪
No shade though.
LMAO I get watchu saying but a lotta people believe that's a man's job so I guess that's why she was proud of that
+Mandy X'O-twod that's fine for her to be proud of it but it doesn't exactly make her an alpha for doing it either lol
That's what I'm saying what so hard about hanging a picture????? How about something hard. It seems like most manly duties are once in a while or easy tasks. A women always has to be at work daily and this is apart from their career. This is dumb
She said she could fix a toilet,,
Why are people so butt hurt in the comments because some women choose to let their man lead? I don't care what anyone says, there's nothing sexier to me than a man that knows what he wants and takes charge. There's a difference between being the head of the household and controlling. There's nothing wrong with wanting to be submissive to the RIGHT man.
agree
1950's called.....
agree
+Jewel Kitty oh, I forgot you can't have an opinion in 2016. Lol bye girl.
+Aina Gia oh hunny they specifically asked for Alexandria Nichole. They want her back.
I'm not an alpha female. I can admit it. I had over protective parents and can barely make decisions by myself. Pray for me y'all.
I can relate being raised under a Carribean roof. I learned the hard way that being a beta can actually cause tremendous harm.
lol the struggle
+gospeldva harm?! How so?
+Shlomo Great I just went through a lot because I was weak. And no one blamed him, they blamed me...
gospeldva thats y its very important to be an alpha female so no man can walk all over u
Alpha female is NOT running a man, Tamar mammaaaaaa!!!! Why are you so ignorant 😩 There is such thing as a alpha female AND alpha male coexisting, you can interchange and have balance. Y'all are hitting the surface with this topic, it's not about who does what first, and who says the last word. Loni killed it with this topic tho!
Amen! 🙌🏼 me and my man are both beta and we liveee for it! We love the to challenge each other and the slight competition....it keeps everything exciting and fresh!
+Jewel Kitty I bet!! And that's what I personably need too. I need a man that'll challenge me mentally, like you said it's exciting and fresh😁 like, keep me on my toes and vice versa lol.
+Nallah Brown I meant we're both alpha lmao but looks like you got that 😹👌🏼 Yesss girl it's great and makes for a much stronger and more fun relationship! You'll find your alpha male 😊
+Jewel Kitty lol, thank you girl! Wish you the best with yours! 😊
why not let her think what she wants? she comes from a background where a man is the head of the house and thats what she believes. she's not telling you what to do.
The girls seem to judge Jeanie and Freddie relationship, but me personally prefer their relationship over Tamar and Vince, I never wanted a shadow relationship or to have to be around someone 24-7 to feel love. I feel Adam and Tamera are cute, but sometimes maybe too cute if that makes sense, but Jeanie and Freddie seem to have an understanding and a friendship where they are accepting and honest of each other imperfections and to me thats relationship goals.
OMG girl you said it! 100% I need me a Freannie kind of love. To me their relationship seems the most stable and realistic, and I'm all for that. Cutesy puppy love is great but I need a foundation of friendship and trust/honesty more than anything.
Jeannie seems like the only one open to self reflection. She wants to know what her flaws are and is willing to hear the hard truth. If she is that honest on the show it seems like her and Freddie probably have some deep conversations - conversations that I cannot imagine Tamar having with Vince or anyone else for that matter. Tamera and Adam probably share a deeper connection than Vince and Tamar, but not like Jeannie and Freddie. This is all in my mind of course. But, like you said, they seem to have a real relationship with understanding and friendship.
feel like vince and tamar are not balanced in the relationship, tamera and Adam too cute--> Boooooring and yes Jeannie and Freddy have the most healthiest relationship on that table. ( Adrienne included)
Jeannie's husband is submissive and a Beta.. She has brought numerous examples that proves it.. I don't like to run a man nor do I like to be controlled. I prefer both, Jeannie's and Tamera's relationships.. Tamar and Vince are too abrupt for me, I saw then on The braxton..
thats why theyr divorced now huh
jeannie can really take constructive criticism so well i really respect her.
No one should be the alpha/beta person in a relationship and marriage. Both partners should be seen as equals and not take up the role of either.
That's right.
Could not agree with this sentiment more! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
@Barrack O’Bezzy fr lmao
That's stupid live long enough and you will realise everyone has a role to play and personalities in a relationship dynamic will always create the dominant and submissive its nature
I agree, like I never felt this dynamic before, submissive? Dominant?. What is this bullshit? Like just live your life and stfu no need to use these terms.
I get so heated when a man thinks he has the last say or what he says goes. We are a Team. We make decisions TOGETHER, and if a man has a problem with that than BYE.
Every team needs a leader though. That's a man's role to be the leader and head of his household. That's a biblical standpoint from God's point of view of how marriage is supposed to work and being the creator of marriage wouldn't he know best?
Ikr, and I don't like when he's too stubborn, like what he says is the absolute truth and there's no other options.
@@smeak9246 no
A man will feel demeaned if he's being treated like a kid, u need him protect you and take care of you and yet at the same time u don't want him to take control, you know Hodor from GOT, get that guy he's a better match for u.
@@smeak9246 there are a lot of good marriages these days with a female leader oder better yet no leader at all
I appreciate Jeannie recognizing her flaws and what she needs to work on
They sound like some 50's housewives. Especially Tamar. Tamera was wrong for bringing Jeannie's personal life into the mix but i still love her. Why they always trying to fix Jeannie's life? No one ever checks Loni for never really expressing her feelings on the show.
Jeannie brought her personal life up
i love that Loni just added some physics in her piece
and it was good too! I like that.... the "change" type haha
Helena i know i started laughing and was like i see what you did there Loni.
She's an engineer 🔝🔝🔝🔝
Asinate Waqa yup
she's also a member of delta sigma theta sorority who refer to themselves as deltas
I'm a beta female, I've always been the quiet, obedient, shy type. I'm not controlling or dominant at all. Not to say I wouldn't stand up for myself or anything when needed because I will!
this is so me!
This is me all the way.
this is so me
you're probably the smartest female i've see on this thread. the alpha/beta labels are foolishness. the "alpha" can still be a kind and caring person, and the "beta" can still get angry and fight for their rights.
I can relate
I don't like the word "submissive". 😒
Agreed.
oh well
I love the word God does too ....
Too bad for you, it would always exists
Because you don’t understand the meaning of it.
PERFECT EXAMPLE OF KEEPING YOUR PERSONAL LIFE PRIVATE SO PEOPLE DONT JUDGE IT. Jeannie, some things you just have to fix in private. These girls don't care about your relationship.
That's the truth
Too true. And from what we have learned, Jeannie has a lot to fix.. She better not share more on TV.. She can share behind the scenes.
why they giving jeannie so much marriage advice when she's been married the longest lol ...
Omg really? 😵 That's pretty ironic then.
you're right i wouldnt give her advice. but i do find her so annoyingly controlling
married the longest doesn't mean no issues. they;re tryna help her stay married. she needs to be less controlling
Her marriage wasn’t good. It was falling apart lmao.
Now she is divorced and mainly because of this behaviour. Respect goes both ways and Jeannie was never respectful or wanted to compromise.
Jeannie always lives up to the name of the show. Love her!
The part where "the man should always have the last word" I couldn't disagree more.. like wtf. Also I don't think the women should respect the man more than he respects her. I have such problems with those stereotypical gender roles. I don't think I'm an alpha but I just don't like dominant male behavior either, I think both should he delta and equal.
C'mon!!!!!!
Yea when she said that I was like holdup.....
I hate when people say the man should always have the last word, if that's true what's the point of having the conversation in the first place
Lol. My boyfriend said: "Tamar is definitely a delta female. She's definitely about change...changing jobs." LOL...
Lol violation
SAVAGE ASFFF
Lmao bruh
SAVAAAAGGGGE
Tamera definitely overstepped her boundaries in this.
What makes you say that? I didn't notice.
I agree. that aint her business lol no one asked.
+joejill51lala what happen?? Lol
I think they're talking about the Freddie comment
nessa847 Right, but in what way? Like I'm not sure what she said that was "out of bounds".
Don't understand why there is hate in the comments bc these women want to be in submissive relationships.. It's not setting anyone back "50 years".. They are strong women doing exactly what they want to do. It's all "women need to do exactly why they want! Feminism is about choices!" Until it's something that you don't agree with, then it's passive or being a doormat? 🤔 I thought women were allowed to do what they wanted, SUBMISSION included.
PREACH. People act like being submissive is equivalent to being a slave. They choose to be submissive.
Exactly! I actually really enjoyed listening to this conversation.
Women are allowed to do what they want... unless you want to be an alpha female like Jeannie. I agree this girl chat set us back 50 years.
do what you want and those who dont just dont .im aware some feminists dont accept people who do things differently...those arent real ones
it did like women work now
I wish I were as vulnerable to share myself like These ladies are. They know themselves and can identify their traits and characters. And they're not afraid of criticism even if it's negative or constructive. They just are genuine people and have good hearts from what I see on the show! I love all these ladies!
i love Tamara but she was really rude and wrong to comment on Jeannie's husband.
I love Tamera, and she was wrong
Tamera sat up and cried during an interview when someone criticized her marriage. she doesnt get to turn around and do that to someone else, no matter how sweet she is.
Tamar seems sweet and nice but she needs pay the respect to let others finish first.
True but Jeannie asked for their opinion.
yeah love tam but thats something tamar would do
I feel like Jeanie always get a little to personal, like no body else be putting their business out there like that
She totally sets herself up
I thought this was called The Real?
Because she wants advice and keeps things real, she's not afraid of others judging her and to spill your bussiness on national tv takes a lot. I'm here for it👏
I agree! I love her honesty!
I feel like she was interrupted from what she was actually going to say. And then Tamera goes on and talks about Freddie. That's something you don't call your friend out on on national TV. Either you do that in private, or not at all, bc frankly her marriage is none of Tamera's business.
Anyone feel gross after watching this video?
"Don't be strong and independent...your only job is to make a man feel comfortable being in charge."
There goes female empowerment
Yes! Gross is the right word!
the second tamar started saying "the bible says..." i already wasn't feeling it and i'm a christian lol
yeah bs lol thats my power
then you need to check your spirit
@QueOnda 123 loool
I was raised by a single mother who is such an ALPHA FEMALE, and i have 2 sisters who are also ALPHA females.. They don't like being controlled or told what to do. I am such a beta male (also the only boy in my family) and not to mention i'm a pisces! oh well..
haha, lots of progesteron in the air.
Twice 💕
You sound like Rob Kardashian on a smaller scale. He has 3 sisters, 4 step sisters, and 3 sister in laws. Not to mention his mom, grandma, and aunts. All Alpha females. No wonder he tried to eat his self into oblivion. Can you imagine? His step brothers stay far far away. Wait! And now his step dad became Alpha X. (Big eyed emoji).
+Debra Kimberly ....his step dad alpha X...loooooooool. the progesterone won...he is the one left standing...poor tin
hahaha Debra Kimbely step Dad what now , you rly did your homework uuh, and now he has an Alpha fiancé
"Ain't nobody got time for that". You got time now Tamar XD.
But today I got time!
Not really. She's too busy producing her OWN talk show. Alongside two reality shows. You tried though.
😂😂
hahahahahahahahahaaa
I'm screaming 😂😂😂
I can't believe this conversation even happened.
Same
Why
Single mothers all over this comment section
3:34 YES JEANNIE YOU FINALLY SAID IT !
Are you kidding??? So disappointed in this segment. If you want to be submissive to your significant other that's fine. But the idea that women NEED to be submissive to men is ridiculous and belongs in the 1800s. Women are just as important and strong as men in relationships.
DID YOUR MAN TELL YOU TO SAY THAT? LOL
Exactly!!!! People just don't get how much alike men and women are. Both can be soft and strong interchangeably and that works perfectly ❤️you said it sis
Jeannie does not look 37 at all 😝 😝
As a latina I don't see anything wrong with submitting to your partner. I think they emphasized that he has to be the right one meaning a great leader. A good head on his shoulders. Submitting doesn't mean disempowering yourself. It simply means giving your partner validity. And equally it is his responsibility to tend to us. Make sure we are happy. As a woman it is our responsibility to choose the right man we are willing to submit to. He has to be worthy of it. He has to prove himself. He has to show he won't abuse it. He has to show he had good intentions all the time. For religious folks, follow the word of God. If he can't honor the word of God, for sure he ain't worthy.
You are right.
girl PREAAACH!
Thank you! 🙌🏾👏🏾 If you're picking the wrong man, he will most definitely not be a good leader, much less be capable of running the household!
Agreed!
agreed. also, men submit to women they love/lust on a daily, hourly, nanosecondly basis.
Tamera, stay out of someone else's marriage. None of your business to judge her. She acts like she's the wisest of all.
she really wasn't judging, you mis-interpreted that
I know right....and if someone says something about adam...she starts to cry....booeeehooeeee!! Bitch please..... its none of her business to talk about jeanines marriage!! Its really rude to talk about such private moment....especially when its not your marriage!
& the perfect one!
So she didn't set herself up? She put her business out there like that. And she also wanted advice. It was an open and REAL discussion so you get real answers rather they good or bad. Tf y'all so mad for?
Nd look who's divorced now ...
I'm definitely a delta female. It's tough but you've gotta learn when to switch it up! Have mutal respect for each other and the relationship should work out fine.
This is so cringeworthy. "U have to submit" never heard bigger bs than that. Like this is teaching sexism to young women. I want to pull their hair out bc theyre trying to make a strong woman, who is proud of being strong submit, and be weaker. This is not a good message for young girls. I'm not even of the minorities you guys are from, but i know, that since u are one of the few shows featuring minority women, a lot of underrepresented young girls look up to you, and you are doing them so wrong by teaching them these stereotypes.
Black women are leading in the work force, leading as an educated group but fall behind in marriage 🤔
Tell em Tre!!!! If you don’t want to submit to a man you’ll submit to singleness.
Stone Ghana no? Just be equal why do yall want to control everything omg
Ummm, 50-50 end of story.
ikr you said it 👏🏼💯
yes!
fadzai jemwa Yes there is sadly not for you obviously.
agreed
No it should be 100 percent both ways. Not half or you will get half results.
YESSS I'M LOVING THESE LONGER CLIPS, GET IT ADRIENNE
All females, young and old, it is okay to be either submissive or dominant.
All males, young and old, it is okay to be either submissive or dominant.
Just make sure in your relationship, you find a partner that is compatible to whatever relationship dynamics the both of you are comfortable with.
I'm so sick of these gender stereotypes. If a man is intimidated by a dominant female, and feels as though he "can't be a man," then I guess that proves that naturally men are not more dominant then women. It is all personality traits that either a man or woman can be dominate or submissive. Neither being better or worse, it's all just preference.
Our gender roles are taught. And the mentality of people like Tamar, Tamera, etc. who think that a man is "suppose" to lead is a dangerous one to continue to teach to young women (or women in general) . We are teaching our young women that they should play submissive, even in the event if they are natural-born leaders.
If that is the case, that men should be in control and dominant, well then there should be no women CEOs, or women in leadership roles in or outside of the home if there is a man employed around, because a "man is suppose to be in control." This is obviously a ridiculous sentiment.
I genuinely feel sorry for women who think like this, and hope that the next generation coming up don't share the same belief. I actually hope Tamar doesn't have anymore children (especially not a daughter, from her own mouth she has said she should teach young girls to twerk to fit in with the trend, and now this, encouraging her to be submissive to appease a man) and her departure from this platform will be good for the next generation of women coming up. They won't be influenced to believe that the man "should be the head of the house. And make the final decision in his house."
Last time I checked it was 2016. It is not HIS house. A healthy household is one where it is seen as THEIR home, meaning both the man and the woman (in heterosexual relationships). In a healthy relationship, free of abuse and gender role stereotypes, both the man and the woman should feel it is equally either of their homes. Marriage/Relationships are partnerships.
I completely agree with you. I am adolescent and I don't like the idea of having a "man" or anyone control me. It's not right.
Agreed, agreed, agreed. Preach ! 👍👏
That's what they all say, they end up wishing the man would lead. It sound good on paper, but people are basically going to be similar....it doesn't matter if it is 2080. There will always be gender roles...they might move or change over time but society will always cross them out and put new ones in.
You sound passionate, but you are talking about two extremes, in real life there is compromise. Her mentality is not dangerous, it is people like you who think you should impose your ideas on others that are more dangerous(think hitler)....you see what i did there. I just called your opinion dangerous..
You don't have the capacity to determine how young girls will think or should think. you are just doing the same thing you complain society is doing and trying to force your opinion down, while disregarding that people will think in many different ways and come to different conclusions.
I happen to like and will go for a man that can lead, an alpha male, a provider and protector. This is coming from a pharmacist in phd research and a woman, with a very dominant personality. Now that you read all of this, can i confess that i did not read all you wrote, only a fair portion, I just needed to tell you that people have different opinions, and we can share them, but no ones opinion is fact, your opinion is not the best way to live life and neither is mine.....
just because its 2016 doesnt mean everything needs to change. ppl really need to stop with the its 2016 crap.
A marriage that tries to have two heads will fall. The husband is supposed to make the final call because he’s the main provider and protector.
Idk why everyone hates on Loni! She has great insight on lots of subjects!
Tamar "you gotta smother that thang sometimes" lmao omg
I think none of them never had an Alpha Man
Are you the one?
LOL
ahahahahahah ^
En Vagyok you killed me with that question 😂
+En Vagyok 😂😂😂
it's sad to see the ladies talk this way it's such an outdated way to think. wtf is tamar saying? ....and the fact a lot of yall agree in the comments is sad too. disappointing segment. I think we should all strive for balance in a relationship
That's awesome! I truly hope that if a burglar were to ever come into your house, you'd have the balls to stand in the forefront and protect your boyfriend/husband instead of the situation being the other way round =) Oh, what's that? Most women don't wanna do that because they think the man should protect the woman? But wait, what about equality? LOL. What a fucking joke. Women want privileges, not equality.
***** Ohhh, so you're saying that because men have the unfortunate fate of being born in such a way, we're the ones who have to sacrifice our body, limb by limb, just to protect the women around us, while women, just by virtue of being born as females, get to enjoy the luxury of physical security from a man? That sounds awfully equal doesn't it?=D
No wonder feminists say that men are privileged in society, despite the fact that men are the ones who lose their lives just to protect the family, the citizens, and the entire fucking nation from harm. Darn, these feminists sure are for equality, aren't they?
***** I'm aware of that you dumbshit. I'm even educated enough to know that there is a difference between gender equality and gender equity, the latter being a concept that takes into consideration of sexual dimorphism between men and women, while the former doesn't.
What I have a problem with is when feminists claim that we should strive for equality as if there aren't any differences between men and women. Men and women do differ, and they differ in strength, aggression, interests, sexual stimulation, etc.
Feminists are behaving as if such differences don't exist. They spew out words like 'misogyny' or 'institutional sexism' whenever the results they want out of society are not met instead of considering the fact that the results might be the way it is because men and women are simply different in some ways.
***** I'm aware of that, but what i'm saying is that its unfair for nature to have made men the stronger ones, and thus, the ones who have to be responsible for women's safety at the expense of losing their lives.
If nature has made it unfair for men in some aspects, why is it that feminists are constantly rambling about how men are privileged and women are victims in sociey? Seems to me that women are actually privileged in some regards, and men too are victims, doesn't it? Yet, feminists choose to disregard this idea.
***** Lol nvm then. Just be considerate of the difficulties that a man has to go through, and we're cool.
this came at such a perfect time!! my bf went home for a funeral across the country and I am just now realizing just how much I value him. (this is the longest we've been apart in over a year!!) I am very much like Adrienne except I am very hesitant on submitting to a bf. watching this helps confirm to me that I should fall back and allow him to come into his own. Lord knows I cannot be with a passive man!
honestly?? i think jeannie is my favorite bc she's the only one that will choose the other side & develop a strong & solid foundation for it. i see her as the most candid & the most modern thinker for sure!!
Lmao loni always knows what’s really going on and always gotta remind them what the subject is 😂
Jeanie found someone that loves and appreciates her alpha side. No need to change yourself, the person who is meant to be with you will encourage you to be the person that you arr
“I consider myself confused!” 😬
I’m 💀 😂🤣😂🤣
First thumbs down I've ever gave to this show. I'm so upset. Don't feed a mans ego. No need to bow down to him and let him run the house. I agree there should be compromise but this is just disappointing. I hated this girl chat
Glad to see I'm not the only one. I guess they are from the older generation that were sadly taught this mentality. Its up to these newer, younger generation of men and women to change these dangerous gender stereotypes.
BB I agree, this was so degrading to be quite honest.
a real MAN needs to feel like he is the protector and leader of his household. its people who look down on this mentality and think its just "feeding a mans ego" that get cheated on and left QUICK...no shade
+Yasmine Xo if you need to cater to a man's ego in order to keep him from cheating you are bound to get cheated on from the jump. It's a control game. You behave submissively & STILL get cheated on. A cheater is a cheater & no behavior from a woman warrants it.
+Yasmine Xo that is not true! I have been with my man for 12 years & married for 9 & we are BOTH alphas. We have learned to make it work for us and neither have cheated. I definitely do not submit to my husband and he likes that about me as I don't submit to any one (he says he finds that sexy about me).
I love how honest Jeannie is. However that does mean you leave room for others to criticise you or to have opinions. It's not really shade.
I love Adrienne but when she goes on with that submissive stuff it works my nerve but to each his own and Jeannie better not change a damn thing in her relationship what works for her and Freddie works for her and Freddie, Adam is FARR from perfect
She needs to find balance... ASAP!
I know right!!! Tamera and Adam try too much to be perfect....and the whole time i am thinking...are you trying to convince me or each other? Loni is single...Dont get me started about Adrienne's twisted daddy issues and her cheating old boyfriend! Vince and Tamar: No comments! ;) And Adam looks also very old!!! How old is he? 50?! I love the relationship between Freddie and Jeanine...they are honest about their marriage and honest to each other...like real friends who have a lot of fun! They are both kinda crazy and goofy :) And he is sooo beautiful and very nice to her and het family! And they are the longest married also!!!! Those girls are just mad, because they all know Freddie is the cutest and sweetest Husband!!! ;) Love from Amsterdam ♡
hun it wasnt working, you people are so blindly pro jeannie and so biased
Tamar, the Bible also says not to go too too hard with the turn up juice, but I've never heard you mention that :)
Its not about just submitting. Its about having higher standards for yourself, and your partner. You deserve to be heard with respect and gentleness. If you recognize that, then you'll speak up when you're listened to carefully and attentively, and pick people who rise to voice their concerns, not play passive aggressive. You'll be attracted to gentle and respectful men, because you will be gentle in your approach of speaking and respectful. You will value being treated with high honor that way. This is a matter of knowing your worth, so you can then only behave in your worthiness, and select people who treat you in your worthiness. Jeannie speaks over people due to fear of not being heard. She repeats her self due to fear of not being understood and judged/abandoned. When you expect people to treat you well, you speak once and know your voice is valid. You reject poor communication. You validate yourself. I think its a matter of boundaries and standards here.
I was raised by a single mother who is a alpha and I grew up that way. I will always be a alpha. I am too independent to let a guy control me or walk all over me. No body got time for that.
Im a business woman but I still desire to be submissive to a real man..Yes God!!! Submissive doesnt mean losing yourself, it means letting a man fulfill you in deep romantic ways that can truly only happen when you fully open to him. Im here for it lol
Call me. OOOOP!
Yesss honey. I'm a small business owner and entrepreneur and after being all charge ALL day it's nice to come home and switch roles. To fix his plate, lay out his clothes, rub his back, all that. Serving for our man is often confused with weakness but it's really not. I think it takes more to serve than to receive and always expect.
*switch roles. To fix his plate, lay out his clothes, rub his back, all that.*
Yep, and no surprise that those women who think it's a weakness can't ever seem to get or keep a man, lol.
+AllPro777 lol right. Im not saying to do that stuff all the time..but for the RIGHT man, there's nothing wrong with it. And if he's the RIGHT man im sure he has no problem doing those things for you as well.
+AllPro777 lol right!!
She's a Capricorn that's why she can't do it
Exactly. It's in her nature
+keimonte14 whos that?
+A Jay Jeannie
so true! I am Capricorn too...😊
+Rimsha Naeem same!
I'm learning to be more submissive! It's actually kind of fun 😝 ....when you have a man you can trust and I agree with his decisions anyway...why not "follow"
Adrienne said it, you have to find a trust_worthy_ man. If a man is indecent or has poor judgment nobody should trust him period, not even his damn self lol. But a man with a strong sense of right and good judgment should absolutely take the lead, woohoo 😍
Ironic for Adrienne to say that considering her current significant other's...um...history.
+peanutjelly lol what's his history??
He admitted to cheating on his wife of twenty-something years, which got him kicked out of his church as a church leader. And now Adrienne's saying to find a "trustworthy man" with good judgment. hmmmm
He could have changed...the cheating happened years ago. They tried to get past it, but they couldnt. Now he is with Adrienne.
Good discussion. I'm going to miss the dynamic of these 5 ladies together😔😔😔. I've never been this heartbroken in like forever.
I don't know why everyone's jumping on Tamar. Jeannie told her own business with her own mouth. There are no puppet strings. Nobody tied her up and made her speak about her issues with Freddie. She's a grown woman. All of them were trying to help her...so, she won't lose her man!
I didn't agree with this segment like a few others. Some girls like being the beta and that's fine ,but for them to say that women being in control is a bad thing makes me mad. And them trying say that they are the one's really in control but just saying there not to make their men feel good just means that they are in control. In fact why does there have to be an alpha in a relationship. Society is always trying to degrade people with who where's the pants. How about when one of us don't want to make the call the other does and if we both want to make the call we compromise and do this "you have more power so you make the call" game.
You're on the right track, stay on it. People out here wrangling over who's alpha or beta are focusing their energy on the wrong things. It has been and always will be about compromise. That's how humans have to be if we want to function as social creatures.
This show seriously perpetuates some old stereotypes.. Be all submissive so your man can feel all macho? I love this show but they do this all the time, it's not the 50s anymore.. Jeannie is the most progressive and trying to live life how she chooses and everyone always shames her.. Being alpha and not wanting kids doesn't make you a monster!!
I’m an alpha female on my own 100% but in a relationship I soften up to my man. I like my man to be smart and confident enough to lead, protect and take control. I like to feel safe and secure with my man and knowing he can handle any situation just as much as I can. We can make the best decisions for us together, doesn’t have to be one sided. I’m not trying to be a guys mother so I don’t like having to tell a man what to do all the time. I like a man that already knows what he has to do but willing to take suggestions from his Queen and confident enough to let his Quinn lead sometimes too. Two minds are better than one and two Alpha minds?! If blended with love and respect for each other then that’s a dynamic power couple!
They all share stereotypical views of women in heterosexual relationships.
They stereotypical of women period.
4:20 Jeanie looked so hurt and so embarrassed 😞 her face said it all 😩
Jeanie said she's 37? what the hell, that can't be right..
She should be 38 by the time this video was made because Tamar's now 39 and they're a year apart. Apparently she forgot her own age? 😶
Tamartian Nene 💕 lol
+Tamartian Nene 💕 she was born in early 1979 so she is 37
+Seybora GotBangtanPinkMixeride I could've sworn she was closer to Tamar's age but you're right. Whoops.
Cant believe you thought she forgot her own age.. and that you, someone random on UA-cam, knew it better. Hilarity.
"I know how to hang a picture..."
And Loni so sweet to not let that laugh go. I couldn't hold it in. Bahaha
TAMAR shading the hell out of Jeanie !!!!!! Wow this girl chat showed it
She really did though 😂
Absolutely agree with Tamar, Adrienne, Tamera they was keeping it real.
I loved this talk, I’m all about men being alpha and I’m naturally submissive.
I always got the impression Jeannie is not all that connected to her marrige, and whenever Freddie comes on the show, he is always somewhat passive aggressive when it came to couples topics with Jeannie. When they asked him to mimic Jeannie, the first thing he said was "No, not tonight, I'm tired."
At least Jeannie acknowledges her flaws. She's straight up controlling and tries to work on it. That's more than a lot of people can say for themselves.
All the ladies had good points on this topic in my opinion.
I feel like in this show we learn so much about Jeannie's personal life. Like the real with her marriage and no1 else discusses their marriage problems so why do they put her on blast like that?
she put herself on a blast did you not watch the same show??
i actually love this clip !! they ALLLLL have such good chemistry with each other. They shouldnt've rid of Tamar
why is it always a problem when tamar says something to jeannie but when the other women say something there isnt a problem. The other women talked more about her relationship than tamar did but thats all anyone chooses to focus on.
Because they don't always come after Tamar like Tamar comes after everyone else in almost every single video.
^girl shut up. You under every video bashing Tamar. Get a grip.
madeyoulook No, I don't have to "shut up." As long as I'm NOT calling Tamar any foul names like she's a whore or anything like that, I can give my opinion. There are a lot of other people in the comment sections of these videos that say far nastier stuff about Tamar in regards to both what I think and just in general. Why is it that when I (someone who has said something completely *TAME* compared to them) comment about her, I am told to shut up and is bashing her? All I said was that she comes after Jeannie. How that's bashing is beyond me. And just a note, if you name call me I *WILL* block you. I won't tolerate being name called when I have not name called anyone else. So why don't you go talk to the *OTHER* people who have been calling her nastier things than I have and worry about them instead of someone who just happens to have a differing opinion?
lol ikr? Tamar's advice at the end was actually really good and not shady at all, for real. "compromise and chillax" yup, that's right. people will always want to hate on tamar though, it's what it is.
Ariadne Bene I'll tell them shut up too like I told you.
Lol, I struggle with this sometimes. I argue with my s/o a lot about not letting him be “the man!” But I was raised to be very independent, and trying to find a balance.
Jeannie is so Gorgeous to Me..beautiful features.
Submission (IMO) is not about letting your man run your life. You are allowed opinions and you are allowed to voice them. For me it means trusting him and especially at times where we can't come to an agreement I have to trust my man to take the lead. Find a man who also wants your opinion. I love serving my husband food and I love cooking for him, but I want it to be appreciated and I don't want it to always be expected. Expectations have a sneaky way of leading us to being less appreciative which I find myself doing as well.
I love me some Jeanie Mai. Be you & do you gal! #Urthebest
Tamar, that was so fucking sexist. This isn't the 1960's.
Yes!
lmao it's not sexist
Lmfao. She literally just said "The man should have the ultimate last say."
I was actually on par with what she was saying.
um? she's just saying that she feels thats just in most men and womens nature. it was a bit sexist but at the same time she's older than most of us and just traditional. there's nothing wrong with that and clearly she values her happiness and knows how to get what she wants and can say no. its just about how she works hard in her daily life and would like to relax and let him take the lead in other areas of her life.
Loni's makeup so ashy, looks like so many different colors of foundation. Anyways when Tamar leaves I'm off this for good.
Ashy lmao tried it!
+Chastity B. The Entrepreneur no she didn't tried it she Accomplished it.
+Chastity B. The Entrepreneur no she didn't tried it she accomplished it
Adrian's my freakin spirit animal!!!!! 'I consider my self CONFUSED' literally killed me😂😂
Yeah this felt anti feminist.....let a 'man' take charge simply because hes male is just ridiculous.
exactly ! thats rubbish.. thats the reason y many men feel the need to put their hands on women when they're not following their orders
So being traditional = anti-feminist?
Hannah Wright
Then, get yourself a passive male and stick with him. Don’t get rid of him. Respect his passive personality.
Tamar “won’t He do it” after Tamera said she knows how to put air in a tire was sooooo funny😂😂😂😂😂lol
Jeannie is a Capricorn. Us Caps just have to be in control lol. It's in our nature.
Love These Ladies, Thank You So Much For The Upload!!
This whole conversation sounded so sexist in my opinion.
+Eboni Gray Tamar kept on saying that you should submit to a man because they rule the household, like it's 2016. A couple should run the household together.
That's basically what Tamar was saying though and the rest of them agreed with her, so that's why I think the conversation is sexist.
It is very sexist, I couldn't believe that such successful women would say this stuff...
yes!
Deciding if they should be Alpha or Beta based on what attracts a man is hella sexist. Women need to stop putting their worth based on what attracts men
I am just like Adrienne.. alpha on the outside but beta at heart. I seem very strong, bossy and serious but once someone gets to know me, I am just a sensitive goof ball and want a man who can take the lead. It is really hard to meet men tho they usually get scared off
Well Loni is smart af with saying Delta means change
No one:
Adrien: *I AM CONFUSED* 😂
i feel like everyone thinks Tamar doesnt like jeannie but in this episode everyone agreed that she is controlling so it wasnt just tamar.. goshhh give my girl Tamar a break and her lifs goal isnt to bring jeannie down... jeannie isn't the most perfect person in the world... Jeannie was the one bringing her personal business out there. She agreed herself that she is controlling
"I consider my self as confused"😂😂😂 me every day