Is Being Fat A Choice? Fit Women vs Fat Women | Middle Ground

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  • @jubilee
    @jubilee  Місяць тому +718

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    • @meg4eva02
      @meg4eva02 Місяць тому +69

      nah bruv

    • @NuhaHabila
      @NuhaHabila Місяць тому +8

      Hi❤

    • @Idekatthispoint0000
      @Idekatthispoint0000 Місяць тому +11

      How was this comment 18 hours ago when it posted 1 hour ago?

    • @meg4eva02
      @meg4eva02 Місяць тому +9

      @@Idekatthispoint0000 they scheduled the vid

    • @gfkenya9926
      @gfkenya9926 Місяць тому +22

      I pay to not see ads

  • @Maryam-ev9cf
    @Maryam-ev9cf Місяць тому +61632

    Obese isnt a bad word. Theyre acting like its a slur . If youre obese then youre obese .

    • @EverydayJOEFitness
      @EverydayJOEFitness Місяць тому +2178

      Exactly. I don't think she actually realized that it's a medical term

    • @VenusValentine-r3p
      @VenusValentine-r3p Місяць тому +464

      just because something wasnt intended to be used as a slur doesnt mean it isn't / won't be used as such.

    • @XxOrlenaXx
      @XxOrlenaXx Місяць тому

      @@VenusValentine-r3pit’s a medical term get a grip

    • @Maryam-ev9cf
      @Maryam-ev9cf Місяць тому +775

      @VenusValentine-r3p I agree .but in the video it wasnt used as a degrading word but they still acted like it was a one.

    • @EverydayJOEFitness
      @EverydayJOEFitness Місяць тому +425

      @@Maryam-ev9cf exactly. She responded as though they were insulting her character, when they made it very clear that they were talking about the literal denotation

  • @TheOneWhoIsWise
    @TheOneWhoIsWise Місяць тому +49118

    Telling a dangerously overweight person not to lose weight because they're "beautiful" is like telling an alcoholic not to stop drinking because they're "fun".

    • @OutdoorCleaningDoctor-du1tr
      @OutdoorCleaningDoctor-du1tr Місяць тому +990

      It's okay to be beautiful, unfortunately health and beauty is not the same thing. Just because they're beautiful doesn't mean they don’t need to lose weight and be healthy.

    • @blazenfate
      @blazenfate Місяць тому +287

      ​@OutdoorCleaningDoctor-du1tr that was a lot of nothing you said.

    • @Natasha-zd1xg
      @Natasha-zd1xg Місяць тому +198

      @@blazenfatei think it went over your head. They turned the original comment into the start of a conversation you would have with a person who has the same same pov as the original commenter.

    • @tbobontiyu
      @tbobontiyu Місяць тому +27

      Nice copy pasted comment. Do you have anything new to add to the discussion aside from fishing for likes?

    • @JacqueReads
      @JacqueReads Місяць тому +25

      @@tbobontiyu source? ill wait.

  • @Adi_digital_diary
    @Adi_digital_diary Місяць тому +43766

    Obesity is a medical term. It’s like saying you don’t have diabetes just because you “feel” fine. Just because you don’t “feel” obese, doesn’t mean you aren’t.

    • @Justin_Bailey_NES
      @Justin_Bailey_NES Місяць тому +760

      Just because Im missing both my arms doesnt mean I'm an amputee. I don't "feel" like an amputee...

    • @EverydayJOEFitness
      @EverydayJOEFitness Місяць тому +510

      I don't "feel" like I have bad eyesight. Yes, I'm legally blind but I don't identify as blind.

    • @kathy6979
      @kathy6979 Місяць тому +213

      I don't "feel" like an epileptic. I feel fine after a seizure and I don't even remember them. Yes, I've been diagnosed with brain scans, but I don't identify as epileptic.

    • @l0velyfl0wer
      @l0velyfl0wer Місяць тому +171

      At the end of the day, whatever that woman was talking about was a showcase of her denial

    • @amakachuks5908
      @amakachuks5908 Місяць тому +33

      exactly what i was thinking when i heard her say that

  • @carah_777
    @carah_777 15 днів тому +123

    it is expensive to buy healthy food but it is even more expensive to pay hospital bills. Compare 15 dollars and 10000 dollars.

    • @shiyuliu1723
      @shiyuliu1723 4 години тому

      They’re acting like skinny people are eating healthy foods, it’s just self control 😂

  • @cb_productions362
    @cb_productions362 Місяць тому +60306

    Saying you’re not obese because u can walk without getting out of breath is the lowest standard😭

    • @TheColerain11
      @TheColerain11 Місяць тому +2310

      I mean she obviously doesn't set high standards for herself lol

    • @EverydayJOEFitness
      @EverydayJOEFitness Місяць тому +1610

      That was sad to hear. That just comes down to education about what terms like obesity really mean.

    • @nathannguyen2041
      @nathannguyen2041 Місяць тому +864

      I question what they define as a "hike".

    • @spilled_ink
      @spilled_ink Місяць тому +579

      I believe it was a comparison method, like she can do hikes and long walks without being out of breath, but when going with her thinner friends, they do. Overall, it's not the definition, but sometimes reality is body shape doesn't equivate to physically able.

    • @IsaacRoger-c8d
      @IsaacRoger-c8d Місяць тому +116

      @@TheColerain11Stop being rude

  • @joeyjo7553
    @joeyjo7553 Місяць тому +18695

    People say that it’s expensive to eat healthy.. medical bills and medications will be even more expensive.

    • @NicoleGizowski
      @NicoleGizowski Місяць тому +529

      Exactly. Pay now or pay later with your health.

    • @vladtheimpalerofyourmom-ag5112
      @vladtheimpalerofyourmom-ag5112 Місяць тому +349

      This comment tastes American 😆

    • @paulmarden3301
      @paulmarden3301 Місяць тому +153

      In America it's expensive. But I get your point.

    • @MrNeroSurge
      @MrNeroSurge Місяць тому +62

      @@paulmarden3301 grocers are everywhere. or just eat cheap fast food but at much less quantity. you dont have to finish all the food lol

    • @Bezabella21
      @Bezabella21 Місяць тому +14

      Yess!!!!And is so much stress if, you a medical problem, the stress of going to a doctor,,the walks,the spent time,taking medication maybe you woundn't use if you would be healthy

  • @gabrielaoli3140
    @gabrielaoli3140 Місяць тому +15897

    the red dress lady is a tough love kinda lady. the way she spoke to the woman who said had suicidal thoughts really made me emotional, it was really beautiful.

    • @yamelolvera8782
      @yamelolvera8782 Місяць тому +783

      I love her she is so Lana Del Rey core 💖

    • @ohklahoma7376
      @ohklahoma7376 Місяць тому +172

      ​@@yamelolvera8782 You're so real for that

    • @Abby-p8h
      @Abby-p8h Місяць тому +164

      I cried lol

    • @ezriotic
      @ezriotic Місяць тому +176

      i teared up. that was beautiful.

    • @ezriotic
      @ezriotic Місяць тому +19

      @@Abby-p8h I DID TOO

  • @astromantix
    @astromantix 4 дні тому +39

    WTF are people on when they start saying it's expensive to eat healthy???? healthy doesn't have to be fresh organic vegetables; you can have a heaping bowlful of pasta with olive oil and tomato sauce and it's still gonna be wildly cheaper and healthier than washing down tubs of fried chicken and cheeseburgers with coke. it's called basic math and common sense.

  • @patriciapaul21
    @patriciapaul21 Місяць тому +21801

    "would you consider me obese".... people sometimes are really blind to their outer appearance

    • @molleybrackney9585
      @molleybrackney9585 Місяць тому

      No it’s just delusions and lack of accountability like lady it’s not a matter of consideration the definition of obese is to be 100 pounds or more overweight and you clearly are

    • @palemoonlight96
      @palemoonlight96 Місяць тому +626

      The modern movement that tries to convince society that every body type is healthy, is so dangerous; basic self love is absolutely compatible with knowing that you're currently in an unhealthy condition that has to be changed

    • @desean3402
      @desean3402 Місяць тому +476

      Don’t ask questions you don’t want answers too 😭🤣

    • @w_ill0w
      @w_ill0w Місяць тому +71

      she was asking that to understand what the other girl considered obese😭

    • @EverydayJOEFitness
      @EverydayJOEFitness Місяць тому +241

      @@desean3402 and the fit girl tried to be polite, too!

  • @gigicastillo2032
    @gigicastillo2032 Місяць тому +5560

    Working out and changing my diet got me out of my depression. It’s just taking that first step to a new chapter.

  • @sh8534
    @sh8534 Місяць тому +17700

    Obesity is so common now that people genuinely think that your weight is only a problem when you’re at the point of being bedridden

    • @gtrgodxxx
      @gtrgodxxx Місяць тому

      Also most think they're a bit overweight not realising that they and everyone around them are obese

    • @nadiasspace548
      @nadiasspace548 Місяць тому +280

      no,fr
      there’s so many obese people now all over the world so they don’t think anything is wrong with them since there’s so many people who look just like them🙂‍↔️

    • @teeminator30
      @teeminator30 Місяць тому +84

      Come to our elementary school in Seattle. >40% of the kids, and >90% of the teachers are obese. School lunch is where it all started. Your favorite politicians love you so much.

    • @kissme1518
      @kissme1518 Місяць тому

      This made me laff

    • @CodenamePrince
      @CodenamePrince Місяць тому

      Skinny people are now the minority in the United States.

  • @LoveTarynJosephine
    @LoveTarynJosephine 18 днів тому +179

    What a beautiful group. Happy to see a moderator! Ya girl is in tears over here

  • @AshleyAlvarez-rq9ue
    @AshleyAlvarez-rq9ue Місяць тому +6293

    Portion control is free. Walking is free.
    You don't need to completely change your diet and get a gym membership to lose weight. I'm so tired of these misconceptions around weight loss. It doesn't need to be expensive or hard.

    • @annaku_wantsyouuuuuuuu
      @annaku_wantsyouuuuuuuu Місяць тому +244

      i had an obese friend who lost weight simply by cutting sugary drinks, and she never worked out.

    • @zz-ih5xe
      @zz-ih5xe Місяць тому +82

      Yep. My dad was diagnosed with T2 diabetes and has practically reversed it by eating less, dietary changes and brisk walking daily. He's lost a ton of weight. Many people just can't be bothered to put in the effort.

    • @ChelsiBerglund
      @ChelsiBerglund Місяць тому +79

      For a super easy solution; UA-cam videos are free. All the workout videos on here since 2020 are definitely a game changer.

    • @fluffycat6489
      @fluffycat6489 Місяць тому +1

      Correct

    • @SogratefulJoe
      @SogratefulJoe Місяць тому +77

      It’s literally cheaper to eat less. Less food equals less money.

  • @dr.hiccup573
    @dr.hiccup573 Місяць тому +18033

    Eatings unhealthier isn’t CHEAPER… it’s just EASIER. A mcdonalds meal is like $10. For one single meal. I can spee $10 on ingredients and get like 7 meals out of it.

    • @stamourbeaulieu
      @stamourbeaulieu Місяць тому +156

      Like what?

    • @dr.hiccup573
      @dr.hiccup573 Місяць тому +1453

      @@stamourbeaulieu $1 pack of buns, $6 back of ground beef, $2 tomato sauce, $3 spices. a little over 10 but enjoy Sloopy Joes that’ll last you an entire week. Not just one “fast” meal.
      Or a box of Pasta for $5, sauce for $2. That’s $7 total. Spaghetti for at least a couple days.

    • @lolaaq
      @lolaaq Місяць тому +1310

      @@stamourbeaulieupasta is cheap, rice is cheap. Pair that with a protein and some veg. You have a balanced meal.
      Pasta is 80p
      Minced beef is £2
      Pasta sauce is 80p
      Broccoli is £1.10
      It’s cheaper to cook your own meals at home. Eating fast food is a privilege

    • @silferbuu86
      @silferbuu86 Місяць тому +512

      ​@@stamourbeaulieulet's say you spend $10 a day. That's $70 a week. Spend $20 on rice, assuming you have water. Get a party pack of chicken thighs or legs for $15-$20. Ground beef in bulk is $10. Broccoli and other veggies are $5 in total tops for a week. Make a meal plan for the week and section it off. You still have $20-$25 leftover.

    • @jimmyjohn7548
      @jimmyjohn7548 Місяць тому +24

      so true

  • @Genam888
    @Genam888 Місяць тому +6207

    Frozen food doesn’t have to be unhealthy. A big bag of frozen vegetables is cheaper in the longevity of vegetables, and it’s still incredibly healthy.

    • @basvriese1934
      @basvriese1934 Місяць тому +217

      Better yet, frozen vegetables are actually healthier than 'fresh' ones

    • @itscthuwu5125
      @itscthuwu5125 Місяць тому +251

      @@basvriese1934 What? No.

    • @elyse370
      @elyse370 Місяць тому +14

      ​@@itscthuwu5125 wait they're not?💀

    • @key63727
      @key63727 Місяць тому +40

      i think shes just talking about microwavable meals

    • @thatbeaatcch9884
      @thatbeaatcch9884 Місяць тому

      ​@@itscthuwu5125they actually are sometimes because they're frozen at peak ripeness. Is it true for all no, but in some cases it's reality

  • @oddcheese6384
    @oddcheese6384 19 днів тому +56

    These ladies are wonderful! I learn so much from listening to them! ❤

  • @mybootscamewithoutstraps
    @mybootscamewithoutstraps Місяць тому +9422

    "When you see me, do you think I'm obese?"
    Yes. I am a person who's also medically obese, and I do believe you're obese.
    Just to clarify...that says nothing about who you are as a person, but merely answers the question asked.

    • @AcesMR6
      @AcesMR6 Місяць тому +154

      I’d disagree on your last sentence, it does say something about who they are as a person… For example somebody that’s big and muscular, u know they work out a lot, have dedication, etc. Apply that to obese people, sure it’s not fair for everything gene wise but that doesn’t stop people from judging u in public

    • @NoOne-rh1ll
      @NoOne-rh1ll Місяць тому +67

      ong being obese just refers to your BMI and other factors, not how you look. If you think about it, bodybuilders on steroids that are massive are also technically obese. it's just a medical term.

    • @CarysCreatesThings
      @CarysCreatesThings Місяць тому +52

      @@AcesMR6Obese does not always equal unhealthy though. I think that was the point OP was making. The older fit woman said she is clinically obese. Someone who is fit and muscular could still be classed as obese because the BMI index is highly flawed.

    • @DaDualityofMan
      @DaDualityofMan Місяць тому +12

      @@AcesMR6Well I was bulking last year and was obese, but nobody would thought it by looking at me because of my height and muscle

    • @Chill_Enigma
      @Chill_Enigma Місяць тому +19

      This exactly! People have a tendency to be offended when someone is categorized as obese. Being obese doesn't, by default mean you are a bad person. It just means you are obese. This is coming from a former obese person. People have lost common sense.

  • @yahainHotPink
    @yahainHotPink Місяць тому +8077

    Body Positivity was created for people with physical disabilities too. Not just different body sizes

    • @mariannehavisham8323
      @mariannehavisham8323 Місяць тому +311

      And stuff like skin colour and natural hair and age

    • @haydenrhead7692
      @haydenrhead7692 Місяць тому +253

      It’s for stuff you can’t change about your body. Weight can be.

    • @Cerberus984
      @Cerberus984 Місяць тому +39

      Body positivity was created by conglomerates who own the candy factory & the dieting companies. Creating & "solving" the problem?

    • @Debziiie
      @Debziiie Місяць тому +97

      And people with scars etc. Then it got hijacked

    • @EverydayJOEFitness
      @EverydayJOEFitness Місяць тому

      ​@@Debziiienailed it. It got hijacked. We could probably call this era Second Wave body positivity, and it has a whole different feel to it

  • @chandansimms9167
    @chandansimms9167 Місяць тому +5984

    Not trying too sound harsh but the woman saying she’s not obese is deluded. If at that body weight she’s not skinny, lean, muscular or a bit fluffy there’s only a few more categories she could be

    • @roza6672
      @roza6672 Місяць тому +13

      She's not saying she's not obese

    • @beenjammin1801
      @beenjammin1801 Місяць тому +495

      @@roza6672she definitely was, just bc she doesn’t get out of breath on a walk doesn’t mean she’s not obese ..

    • @yevmk6031
      @yevmk6031 Місяць тому +71

      It’s reverse body dysmorphia

    • @billhesford6098
      @billhesford6098 Місяць тому +92

      She prefers to lie to herself. A liar, to herself. Not sure that can be fixed.

    • @minovictor
      @minovictor Місяць тому +3

      @@roza6672what is she saying?

  • @justaname4136
    @justaname4136 5 днів тому +11

    “Believe it or not they consider me obese” girl… I’m gonna hold your hand when I tell you this.

    • @anibb05
      @anibb05 5 днів тому

      Guaranteed all the overweight women here are BMI morbidly obese

  • @NONAME-uk8nh
    @NONAME-uk8nh 19 днів тому +687

    I love how the fit group has different body types , showing its not a certain physique that can be considered fit

    • @GigglewithFelix321
      @GigglewithFelix321 18 днів тому +28

      Fit has a range, obesity is just obesity.

    • @zennyzee5042
      @zennyzee5042 5 днів тому

      ​@@GigglewithFelix321fax

    • @era8843
      @era8843 5 днів тому +2

      You must be obeist 😂

  • @gabriellerivera1978
    @gabriellerivera1978 Місяць тому +2918

    10:07 As a person that was formally plus size, I can say that weight blindness is real…being able to breathe and walk are basic human functions that you can do without difficulty and still be dying. Being obese is no joke…it’s a silent killer. When you get down to a healthy weight you can really tell the difference that your normal was not normal.

    • @lisabelw7782
      @lisabelw7782 Місяць тому +54

      THIS. I struggle with fluctuating weight and I‘m currently the heaviest I‘ve ever been (US size 12) and I can absolutely feel my knees now every time I walk my dog compared to when I weighed much less.

    • @eleseclarke6038
      @eleseclarke6038 Місяць тому +10

      She didn't just say walk she said hike but I get what you are saying

    • @rafaelmusacchio5257
      @rafaelmusacchio5257 Місяць тому +4

      Too much Common Sense!! my social activists brains are burning!!!!

    • @aoutsky
      @aoutsky Місяць тому +20

      Young people have a tendency to think they're invincible. She's in for a rude surprise in her 30s and 40s.

    • @zechs16
      @zechs16 Місяць тому +6

      Far doesn't mean you can't have stamina or increased lung capacity. When your bigger, you body has to do more work. A skinny unfit person's body doesn't nearly work as hard as a far parson.

  • @Rosesrosie3
    @Rosesrosie3 Місяць тому +3428

    As an obese person, other obese people make hella excuses. I’m a stay at home mom, I have a baby, I’m tired of being big. I used to make all those excuses too, but we have to care for ourselves and be honest. I’m only 19 and I have high blood pressure. For the longest time I lied to myself just so I could stay comfortable. One day I just sat down with myself and realized, although life is hard and there are many challenges, I want to live for my son. I’ve been doing better now. I’ve lost almost 20lbs and I’ve started going to the gym. I’m looking forward to see more results and be a healthier version of me. I suggest other people try. I know it’s hard, but take care of yourself, you have people that care about you.

    • @lc-do5eo
      @lc-do5eo Місяць тому +88

      Great job. And, if you don’t have energy for the gym keep in mind there are home workouts too:)! I used to make those excuses too then decided I wanted to lose the weight!

    • @HarmoniousGamon
      @HarmoniousGamon Місяць тому +50

      I don't know you but I just want to say I'm proud of you 😊 your child is seeing their mom doing her best to be her best. That's an amazing thing to see as a kid.

    • @Kat-mi4fg
      @Kat-mi4fg Місяць тому +15

      you’re doing well!! Keep it going :)

    • @AlexPinkowish-z3q
      @AlexPinkowish-z3q Місяць тому +19

      from a fellow teen parent, stay strong! you are doing incredible from what this comment tells me and i know firsthand how insanely hard it can be so the fact you are doing well and found the bandwith to seek improvement in your personal life is really awesome

    • @keisha7412
      @keisha7412 Місяць тому +1

      You’re doing great 😊

  • @TheCarlScharnberg
    @TheCarlScharnberg 18 днів тому +16

    "I don't want her in my algorithm." LOL. I'm dead.

  • @joshuathompson6690
    @joshuathompson6690 Місяць тому +2543

    I don't understand why people think you have to eat, gluten-free, 1000% organic expensive stuff to be healthier. Most people are obese because they eat too much. If they ate less food on a diet they would save money, being obese is expensive.

    • @justinmaxon12
      @justinmaxon12 Місяць тому +117

      It sounds harsh but it’s so true lol

    • @MsDudette21
      @MsDudette21 Місяць тому +85

      also u can get frozen veggies. shiiet thats what i do! they are mad cheap! i dont get a bunch of separate veggies and cut em up. also, with fruit ill have a bag of one type of fruit rather than getting a few different kind. I like to get cuties and then maybe the next time i go shopping ill get a bag of grapefruits. :}

    • @Tinycadancer
      @Tinycadancer Місяць тому

      Considering gluten comes from filler “foods” yes you should stop eating gluten to be healthy… Eating gluten free isn’t hard either… You simply quit eating stuff made out of most grains… Grains are not pertinent to our diet… They can mess around with the food pyramid all they want but people do not NEED to eat grains.

    • @andreaabdilla4349
      @andreaabdilla4349 Місяць тому +46

      That’s so real!! Im thin and really fit and I eat like straight garbage LOL. It’s all about how much you’re eating. Theyre all talking about cutting out processed foods and pop and stuff, like you can have that stuff whenever you want it, it’s about how much you have! If you do cardio everyday and stop eating when your full, there’s really no limit to what you can and can’t have

    • @rubiedoobieeeeeee
      @rubiedoobieeeeeee Місяць тому +7

      I agree i feel like foot a lot of people it’s not necessarily what you eat but how much you’re eating.

  • @ryancunningham52
    @ryancunningham52 19 днів тому +3337

    Well this conversation was A LOT more peaceful than the one with men. 😅

    • @MrMonny
      @MrMonny 19 днів тому +88

      ikr im 100% a fit sider but wtf that one black fit guy oml

    • @vinslungur
      @vinslungur 18 днів тому +109

      This video is full of delusion

    • @hectormurga3509
      @hectormurga3509 18 днів тому +9

      @@vinslungurlmao true

    • @mariok.5536
      @mariok.5536 18 днів тому +6

      ​@@vinslungur 100%

    • @booprice5473
      @booprice5473 18 днів тому

      @@MrMonnyaha black people really be doing too much!

  • @jaquelynmeza7729
    @jaquelynmeza7729 29 днів тому +3264

    those big girls get so triggered. omg i used to be like that 😐 now that i lost weight i’ve noticed how insecure you rlly get. it really affects your brain. it’s not about looks. it literally affects so much.

    • @DopamineFanatic
      @DopamineFanatic 29 днів тому +37

      Exactly

    • @rattraining9491
      @rattraining9491 28 днів тому +118

      Exactly! after losing 25kg i am literally a different person. so much happier and social

    • @SieMiezekatze
      @SieMiezekatze 27 днів тому +58

      Same I use to feel any words were a direct criticism to my person , I was so ashamed I couldn't even look down , being a healthy weight is a game changer in terms of overall happiness and self love

    • @merittsnaivete2334
      @merittsnaivete2334 27 днів тому +33

      I don’t think they’re triggered

    • @LarissaJohnsondeel
      @LarissaJohnsondeel 27 днів тому +21

      I used to be 290 lbs and am now 210 lbs (Still losing weight). I'm recovering from PP and hit 197 lbs before pregnancy but had to start again I got up to 240 lbs from pregnancy. I remember after I broke 200 lbs I wasn't picking fights with my partner, or feeling insecure about my body. My relationship with myself and my SO was thriving and I finally started being able to love deeply like I wanted. I felt alive, because I had pride in myself for working so hard. The insecurity is insane and a demon when you're overweight. These people are straight up capping if they say they don't feel insecure. They wouldn't get triggered from the word obese if they were healed.

  • @mistress0fdarkness693
    @mistress0fdarkness693 19 днів тому +18

    The moment at 43:07 really felt at home to me. 😔 I’m glad that I am doing so much better now!

  • @trishholloway1406
    @trishholloway1406 Місяць тому +6751

    Her saying she doesn't get out of breath while hiking, but she's out of breath while talking is crazy

    • @brandywood1054
      @brandywood1054 Місяць тому +556

      I noticed that too her lung capacity went up to a full boil when she started talking. And yet she said she can hike up mountains and not go out of breath I don't believe it.

    • @ryancooper3629
      @ryancooper3629 Місяць тому +428

      Consider that to many, "hiking" means walking on a flat gravel trail in the park near their house.

    • @a.m97
      @a.m97 Місяць тому +239

      I noticed it as soon as she started talking. She was most likely nervous, she’s also probably talking in front of people and the camera. Which is pretty nerve wrecking.. not to mention it’s an emotionally heavy subject.

    • @Nooklet
      @Nooklet Місяць тому +50

      I was thinking the same thing. I'm obese and I was out of breath just watching her yap.

    • @mookicha
      @mookicha Місяць тому

      She's those DELULU ones

  • @Pontiacgrrl
    @Pontiacgrrl 28 днів тому +1264

    It was a constant battle between those who didn't want to offend and those who were very easily offended. And those characters kept changing throughout the video. Very accurate portrait of what our society currently is like.

    • @tzvigrossman1872
      @tzvigrossman1872 25 днів тому

      23:00 I thought she was the only non delusional one on this question... Until she started speaking... So basically they're all delusional on this one

    • @tzvigrossman1872
      @tzvigrossman1872 25 днів тому +31

      25:11 the truth will hurt ... But mens brains are wired to be attracted to healthy fit women's bodies... Might not be fair but the best personality in in the world cannot overcome mens biological wirering

    • @mirainvierno7952
      @mirainvierno7952 24 дні тому

      Thank you for letting us know but this was never about you and what you are attracted to. So why do you answer a question nobody asked? 🤔​@@tzvigrossman1872

    • @AndreBenjaminswife
      @AndreBenjaminswife 22 дні тому +2

      True

    • @irish2661
      @irish2661 21 день тому +20

      @@tzvigrossman1872and although they said attractiveness shouldnt be defined by men, even so, women view fit girls as their role models and who they want to become. ive never heard anyone said they wanna look like lizzo. so saying that fit girls are more attractive not just by men standards but by everyone is so valid. they just dont want to accept that fact😭

  • @francescam.1165
    @francescam.1165 Місяць тому +11123

    Notice how most of the girls who are fit have better energy levels and seem more upbeat overall? Working out 100% helps with mental health and mood boosters.

    • @frummel403
      @frummel403 Місяць тому +759

      100% I agree! But people shouldn't be so harsh to judge others if they're not able to get there (yet). Circumstances, environment, mental state to begin with are all factors. Empathy and kindness would be a lot more helpful than just bully overweight people

    • @aaliyahrandom
      @aaliyahrandom Місяць тому

      Working out releases endorphins. Endorphins make you happy. Happy people dont k*** their husbands.

    • @Ace-sm2zu
      @Ace-sm2zu Місяць тому

      idk red dress lady lowkey bad vibes

    • @LilT2o00
      @LilT2o00 Місяць тому +284

      opposite effect for me. Been in the gym for over a decade now and my body dysphoria is worse now than before I started and my confidence is much lower and I feel worse about myself mentally, lol

    • @ivareskesner2019
      @ivareskesner2019 Місяць тому +25

      That is not exactly a mystery.

  • @HoneBananas
    @HoneBananas 8 днів тому +2

    This made me cry, struggling with my weight since I started puberty and not being diagnosed with PCOS in my 30s it all started to make sense for me. When she said you have to love on that little girl 😢. I do think being obese is a choice it’s hard but you have to tell ppl you are struggling, and it’s okay.

  • @AmandaSchnaare
    @AmandaSchnaare Місяць тому +4176

    Hearing all the excuses from the ladies that are bigger.. That used to be me and honestly, its so depressing to see them use the same excuses I did. -120 pounds later, my whole perspective is different.

    • @AmiriHipHop
      @AmiriHipHop Місяць тому +241

      Congratulations on dropping that 120 tho. That's not easy! 💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾.

    • @Justin_Bailey_NES
      @Justin_Bailey_NES Місяць тому +85

      Congratulations, you earned your new body!
      Okay, if you used to think like them and you understand their logic (even though you don't agree with them now), what would you tell them to help them see the world the way that you now see it and help them change their behaviors?

    • @HabitualJoker
      @HabitualJoker Місяць тому +47

      The same excuse is used by poor people that feel like they can’t get out of their poverty. Decisions and drastic life changes need to be made. Being poor is a choice.

    • @P3rrineLover
      @P3rrineLover Місяць тому +65

      Very true. Especially when they say they don’t have the time but then attend a 40 minute Jubilee video.

    • @alil2855
      @alil2855 Місяць тому +6

      Exactly!! I’m only 50 lbs down but I see a lot of the same excuses I used

  • @Justin_Bailey_NES
    @Justin_Bailey_NES Місяць тому +4512

    Okay, Lupe doesn't know what obese means.
    It's a medical term, dear.

    • @Getinthevan9
      @Getinthevan9 Місяць тому +126

      Pretty sure she said she's been medically obese since she was 12, but is saying she isn't obese because she can walk up a hill.

    • @Ray03595
      @Ray03595 Місяць тому +84

      @@Getinthevan9Confused if she is even confused. Sounds like she just takes offense to being labeled by that medical term.

    • @Getinthevan9
      @Getinthevan9 Місяць тому +3

      @@Ray03595 yup

    • @LOhateVE
      @LOhateVE Місяць тому +1

      All 4 of them are morbidly Obese, not even just obese. If they keep at it I would be surprised they make it past 50.

    • @azureavocado5195
      @azureavocado5195 Місяць тому

      0:51 Lupe can’t pronounce “thyroids” and doesn’t know what “physique “ means.
      Idk how she even got on this show😂

  • @SqueakyMcGee
    @SqueakyMcGee Місяць тому +4662

    not Lupe out here acting like obese is a subjective term

    • @k.labpickle
      @k.labpickle Місяць тому +52

      Someone who is literally size 4* is considered obese… that is literally 4’11” and 135lbs. If you’re under that you can’t breastfeed a child safely, if you’re under that you are not legally allowed to give blood on military posts
      Medical diagnosis for obesity does not matter because the BMI scale is not accurate

    • @junipers-rings
      @junipers-rings Місяць тому +47

      @@k.labpicklefirst of all 135 is a normal weight for taller people.

    • @k.labpickle
      @k.labpickle Місяць тому +15

      @@junipers-rings
      That’s why I gave the height. BMI is based on height and weight

    • @Railios103
      @Railios103 Місяць тому +64

      Show us a 4'11 135 that isn't chunky

    • @mistarbeanz
      @mistarbeanz Місяць тому +84

      @@k.labpickle 4'11 and 135lbs is not considered obese, it's considered overweight. You would have to be 4'11 and 150lbs to be in the obese category.

  • @ItsMikky
    @ItsMikky 3 дні тому +2

    I think our minds are our BIGGEST prisons. The second you tell yourself you can’t do this because x,y,z…then you’ve already stopped yourself from achieving it.
    As someone with has had severe depression her whole life. A mom and wife. Me cutting out processed foods and taking more time into what I put in, has been THE biggest game changer for me. I don’t even count calories or go to the gym 5 days a week. I just do mindful eating, portion control, drink only water, wine, and coffee (home made not a bunch of sugar Starbucks drinks anymore).
    Resetting my gut health, has literally saved my life.
    And I am certainly not thin and miserablE. I feel and AM stronger than I’ve ever been.

  • @cdlowe8
    @cdlowe8 25 днів тому +1304

    I love the lady in red. She is so experienced, informed, straightforward, and honest.

    • @rukkashi
      @rukkashi 24 дні тому +1

      Yaa

    • @jimmyramirez8844
      @jimmyramirez8844 24 дні тому +6

      They need more of her

    • @arinium691
      @arinium691 23 дні тому +13

      SHES SO PRETTY BRO

    • @WavyDanny_
      @WavyDanny_ 23 дні тому +1

      @@arinium691🤔😐

    • @avacat16
      @avacat16 22 дні тому +24

      She’s great but the hair was definitely a choice haha

  • @jamelynsteiger
    @jamelynsteiger 21 день тому +1493

    The lady in the red dress is so transparent and honest ❤ if only more people could be like that vs trying to find a loophole or excuse for their poor choices.

    • @EVA-ki5vw
      @EVA-ki5vw 19 днів тому +66

      Yea she was pain and pleasure at the same time lmao but I agree with her.

    • @bluepoppies7387
      @bluepoppies7387 16 днів тому +9

      you're being too hard on people for their choices, becuase most of the time is not just their choices but a lot of external circumstances

    • @sarahellendelli
      @sarahellendelli 16 днів тому +22

      her comments on PCOS are completely WRONG.

    • @Niclouyat
      @Niclouyat 15 днів тому +1

      I love her❤

    • @laibao9322
      @laibao9322 14 днів тому +1

      @@sarahellendelliwhy do you disagree? Just curious

  • @ginger1830
    @ginger1830 Місяць тому +979

    "Addiction is the disease that tells your brain that the problem is the solution" 👏👏👏 That's a huge one! and one that is relevant today more than ever for so many people. The escape that addiction offers us is ultimately the biggest source of misery. and mindfulness/meditation - learning the art of non-reaction - is a powerful tool to fix our addicted selves!

    • @cidyrog
      @cidyrog 29 днів тому +2

      90% agree but caveat from a professional standpoint- it depends a *little* bit on the person. For example, if an addicted person is also experiencing life circumstances that mean they're in a constant state of mental trauma or fight/flight, and have the freeze response, meditation can actually exacerbate the problem bc they're further removing themselves from their somatic processing. Again, it's very person specific, and there's not really a one size fits all solution to addiction, and meditation is incredibly helpful for many people experiencing it- it's just rarely the only solution and if theyre in a clinical setting, a lot of different factors need to be evaluated before recommending it(or any other treatment/coping skill)

    • @ginger1830
      @ginger1830 29 днів тому +2

      @@cidyrog thank you for the thoughtful response 🙏

    • @blancacasanovas8776
      @blancacasanovas8776 10 днів тому

      I don’t think I fully understand the phrase… could you explain it for me? I’m genuinely asking

  • @kaleeevans2376
    @kaleeevans2376 4 дні тому +1

    I actually loved this. Lots of actually discussion. Lots of love and lots of listening

  • @kagxs935
    @kagxs935 22 дні тому +918

    the plus size woman in the pink shirt is so precious bless her, so sweet 🥺💜

    • @WindBlowsAround
      @WindBlowsAround 19 днів тому +27

      I liked her too!

    • @Haya-i6y
      @Haya-i6y 15 днів тому +15

      Ik I hated how they cut her off in the first round!!

  • @mrtoxm8
    @mrtoxm8 27 днів тому +1651

    biggest issue with clients, "my life doesnt allow it" no it does... you have to make adjustments and make time "FOR YOURSELF"

    • @noormustafa3
      @noormustafa3 25 днів тому +11

      100%

    • @TheSweetSerenity7
      @TheSweetSerenity7 25 днів тому +51

      No it trully depends, there are lives that don't allow it.

    • @SharayahKitten
      @SharayahKitten 25 днів тому +28

      That was my issue, I kept saying I didn't have time up until I got fed up with my life and made the time. First year I lost over 100lbs just from making small life changes.

    • @TheSweetSerenity7
      @TheSweetSerenity7 25 днів тому +1

      @@SharayahKitten So curious, what kind of changes did you make?

    • @orqfer
      @orqfer 25 днів тому +16

      @@TheSweetSerenity7 Sacrificies aren't easy in anyone's life.

  • @sairenxo
    @sairenxo 24 дні тому +814

    “Addiction is your brain telling you the problem is the solution”. I had to pause this video because as someone who’s in and out of recovery that’s a very powerful way to describe the cognitive dissonance I, and other addicts feel. Thank you

    • @andy2641
      @andy2641 21 день тому +2

      But it’s also not necessarily true. It’s true for some people, but there are plenty people who know their addiction is not the solution

    • @TaiwanisMoving
      @TaiwanisMoving 21 день тому +2

      @@andy2641 Yeah I agree... it sound clever, but are... let's say food addicts really thinking that if they eat more food then they won't want be addicted any more? Do alcoholics think that drinking more booze will end their addiction to it? I don't think so, but would love to hear something to the contrary
      I think we for sure rationalize our addictions, or bargain with ourselves. But I just don't understand the quote

    • @sairenxo
      @sairenxo 20 днів тому +5

      @ everyone in recovery knows it’s not the solution. cognitive dissonance is when your mind is two ways basically

    • @sairenxo
      @sairenxo 20 днів тому

      @andy2641

    • @sairenxo
      @sairenxo 20 днів тому +5

      @@TaiwanisMoving what I got from the quote was that we keep doing it and feel like it helps us when it’s doing the opposite, I guess that’s how I interpreted it not sure if that’s what she meant

  • @coaluck
    @coaluck 6 днів тому +2

    Working out will HELP your mental. Even walking outside I feel better. In fact my fitness is THEEEEE ONLY thing I have that I am in control of.
    You have to get up early before work and go. If I don’t go early I’ll still go but I’m not at my optimum when I wait too late and I get “depressed” if something happens preventing me to miss

  • @Nadines_Devotions
    @Nadines_Devotions Місяць тому +3514

    Walk 10k steps around the streets for free and do intermittent fasting for free. When you buy fast food just control your portions!!! Buy a burger and a liter of water. Balance ppl balance.

    • @TheColerain11
      @TheColerain11 Місяць тому +352

      That's what they don't understand! You can literally lose weight eating only McDonalds IF YOU CONTROL YOUR PORTIONS. Of course a McDonalds diet isn't ideal, but its possible. Portion control is literally the one thing everyone can do whether they have money or not.

    • @dontgetsore
      @dontgetsore Місяць тому +65

      Yes, walking is probably the best things anyone can do for their overall health.

    • @EverydayJOEFitness
      @EverydayJOEFitness Місяць тому +63

      ​@@TheColerain11 That's the education piece that's lacking, and i can't blame them for that.
      I wish it were mandatory in high school to learn about thermodynamics in the body and at least learn nutritional basics so people can make wise decisions as adults.

    • @The_Human_Blueprint
      @The_Human_Blueprint Місяць тому +2

      100%

    • @ARpirateant
      @ARpirateant Місяць тому +29

      Burgers are not that bad by themselves if you think about it and are not eating them every day but just skip the soda and fries that’s what makes the meal into the thousands of calories

  • @ThefreeCommentator1
    @ThefreeCommentator1 Місяць тому +4137

    if you're depressed eating healthy is even MORE important....

    • @Just_Futzing_Around
      @Just_Futzing_Around Місяць тому +39

      100% agree with that!

    • @couples_cleanse
      @couples_cleanse Місяць тому +9

      Thankyou !!! Fr !

    • @HaileysHealth
      @HaileysHealth Місяць тому +75

      When I’ve been depressed, like actually depressed, not sad or disappointed, I choose healthy food to improve. Plus, I’m so numb when I’m depressed, I can’t taste food anyway, so I don’t understand why someone would eat unhealthy when it doesn’t even create a dopamine hit. lol

    • @CambieSweets
      @CambieSweets Місяць тому +20

      Yes!!! Your brain and gut connected.

    • @kendallpaige4160
      @kendallpaige4160 Місяць тому +55

      My mom died a few years back and I was severely depressed. I just laid down and did nothing. I’m not kidding, just laying down for days. My bf at the time was so helpful. At first he’d just come be with me, and eventually he’d force me to go to the gym for an hour. It’s the main thing that helped my depression at the time, getting out and moving. I didn’t want to, but it did help a ton.

  • @kahelbysahi
    @kahelbysahi 20 днів тому +431

    10:18 "I have friends who are skinnier than me, we go on walks and they're losing their breaths" GIRL just because they do not have the stamina does not mean that a person is obese 😭😭😭 there are lots of reasons why a person could be out of breath when walking maybe that person is anemic, does not have enough sleep, respiratory condition, etc. Also, BMI parameters are based on your height and weight and it is to determine whether your weight is in healthy proportion with your height. It is just based on your anthropometric measurements and not your capabilities when you are in that weight.

    • @mrknarf4438
      @mrknarf4438 10 днів тому +2

      Yeah. And not being fit and not having muscle also leads to a lot of problems later in life, so that also is bad, but a different problem! You lose weight by eating less, you build muscle by exercising, too many people think those two are one and the same...

    • @jackyflores245
      @jackyflores245 9 днів тому

      i’m literally 115 lbs and get out of breath on hikes 😭 idk why she used that as an example when everyone has different conditions when it comes to being active

    • @katlegonhlapo4040
      @katlegonhlapo4040 8 днів тому

      Lol she's tryna get everybody to be obese and just not her

    • @schantallmiss2113
      @schantallmiss2113 6 днів тому

      To me it kind of sounds like she equates the term "obese" with "fit", which would explain her definition of obese. Because you can be not obese and also not be fit and vice versa. Obese is a word to describe the ratio of your height and your weight, but has also been used as a slur so i think that might be why some of the women calles it "medically obese" to put the emphasis on the ratio and away from the slur.

  • @Sam-my5eb
    @Sam-my5eb 15 днів тому +1

    It's admirable how at a time like this you make an episode that's for sure interesting and trying to get views, but you're actually doing it respectfully and in a not dramatic way like for example getting the girls to fight to spice things up. You can tell when a presenter is trying to give drama or calm things down, I'm sure you could do the first but glad you did the second.

  • @Honeyworkit
    @Honeyworkit Місяць тому +1793

    I know I might get boo’d…but fit is more attractive. Screw men, PEOPLE (including other women) treat you way better. It may not be fair, it sucks…but it’s true. Clothing fits better. You can participate in more social activities. Overall you’re just more attractive in society.

    • @heatherwillis5505
      @heatherwillis5505 Місяць тому +260

      People don't like the truth, but it's still the truth

    • @yusruuh3762
      @yusruuh3762 Місяць тому +71

      This is so true, it was sad to see that even their argument didn’t prove it because at the end of the day fit will always be more attractive 🫤

    • @KarlaEmmerson
      @KarlaEmmerson Місяць тому +59

      Your looks are a currency. We can be woke all day long and individuals might treat you a special way as a means of their own wokeness token, but in general your life will be better if you look better 🤷‍♀️

    • @vanian420
      @vanian420 Місяць тому +50

      Beauty is subjective. There are no definitive truths when it comes to judging attractiveness.

    • @TheAvgWoman
      @TheAvgWoman Місяць тому +15

      They way you see and treat yourself, society often reflects back. Those girls love themselves and take care of themselves, and the universe responds in kind.

  • @AmadeusTheGrey
    @AmadeusTheGrey Місяць тому +2022

    I'm a single dad, working full time and go to school currently and I still prepare every single meal my child and I eat. It's about discipline and doing what you're supposed to do whether you feel like it or not. everyone has the ability to be disciplined but very very few choose to.

    • @couples_cleanse
      @couples_cleanse Місяць тому +26

      👏🏽👏🏽 facts

    • @MKSpeakz
      @MKSpeakz Місяць тому +17

      Respect 💯

    • @midnight.amethyst
      @midnight.amethyst Місяць тому +10

      Couldn't agree more❤

    • @marenomorgan
      @marenomorgan Місяць тому +36

      I think people also feel entitled to eat like insanely delicious food because their palate has been so distorted by fast, convenient food, so they don't want to eat simple dishes. Like I cook every meal I eat and often it's pretty boring (still tasty, but not crafted by food scientists to be hyper-palatable) but that also means it doesn't take that much time to cook.

    • @AmadeusTheGrey
      @AmadeusTheGrey Місяць тому +15

      @@marenomorgan this is very true. That's why my son and I only eat real food. Meat fruit and veggies. So I don't have to worry about him or myself becoming addicted to that chemical filled food like product that's not even real food

  • @SirhcGaming
    @SirhcGaming 23 дні тому +855

    A lot of the ‘its not in my control’ excuses were basically just ‘I can’t bring myself to do it’

    • @Yumsa-gmaing
      @Yumsa-gmaing 20 днів тому +25

      They just lazy that’s about it your telling me I don’t have time but you sit on your phone or tv or doing nothing for 1hr a day fam just go do what your saying that you don’t have time to do

    • @hearxtcarti
      @hearxtcarti 19 днів тому +4

      some ppl have really bad ed’s for me i literally could not eat or gain ANYTHING for months and that’s definitely not my fault

    • @Salivation_heart
      @Salivation_heart 19 днів тому +13

      ​@@hearxtcartiit's is though. You have a chance to get help and solve that issue. Unless you physically/medically can't.. you always can. Only you can help yourself so it is your fault either its from a reasonable thing or just purely being lazy.
      I was depressed and was gaining weight but regardless its my fault I was gaining weight. no one was tying me to a bed, no one was shoving food in my mouth but ME. Fault=/=reason.

    • @alyssawagstaff8615
      @alyssawagstaff8615 19 днів тому

      I did make a comment, about my struggle with losing weight after my child, but I have never struggled with weight until now, after having my child.
      It’s extremely discouraging to put the work in for these last 2 years and only having seen I lost 10 pounds, my goal is I would like to lose 60 pounds, during my pregnancy I was in bed rest and gained much more weight than I intended, and after birth I did lose some weight but I had started new medications, and gained more weight back.
      I recently was told by my doctors I have a thyroid condition and started a medication to help, it can cause many issues aside from weight gain,
      I am hoping that it will help me with my weight though, I do not like this new body, it feels very foreign to me. I have never been overweight in my life. And it causes pain in my body, my knees and hips and back are in pain, and my doctors will tell me it is due to my complications from child birth but I also do think it is from so much weight gain in such a short time.
      I am working hard daily, and I have only lost 22 pounds so far, it has taken 2 years to lose 22 pounds.

    • @superjbosc5343
      @superjbosc5343 18 днів тому +1

      the thing is, most people who try to lose weight fail. this is true. maybe it's just the case that most people are lazy, but it's not super helpful to say it's an "excuse" when most people can't go through with it. that doesn't mean being obese isn't unhealthy, it is, it's really really bad for you.

  • @natashaconstable
    @natashaconstable 18 днів тому +7

    Bro, I’m a teen and I can workout. Also you don’t have to cook to make a sandwich or some apples for 3 dollars. I agree we can’t always control what we look like but we can change how healthy we are.

  • @nihongopride
    @nihongopride 26 днів тому +2073

    The chica in red top needs to accept she is obese and is living a unhealthy lifestyle. There’s a lot of Hispanic people that are obese due to diet, lifestyle and choices they make. At the end of the day she needs to be accountable for the lifestyle decisions she makes.

    • @gore-geousmombie4686
      @gore-geousmombie4686 24 дні тому +55

      So does the girl in the red dress that were all pretending is actually fit when she's clearly out of breath just sitting there.

    • @SemekiIzuio
      @SemekiIzuio 24 дні тому +40

      Its the culture, Mexican food is f delicious but Mexican people are also very hardworking to make ends meet. They are very active people that go place to place by foot and buses. So in the US you can eat these Mexican dishes but arenr burning the calories because its a completely different lifestyle

    • @off.arretezvousx
      @off.arretezvousx 24 дні тому +28

      The amount of mental gymnastics she is playing is so delusional. Facts will not care about her feelings.

    • @BornInTheWrongTimes
      @BornInTheWrongTimes 24 дні тому

      @@gore-geousmombie4686
      Lol you can clearly tell she’s fit… I think you might just prefer girls with more thigh gap and/or smaller breasts 😂

    • @kermit_da_fwog9397
      @kermit_da_fwog9397 23 дні тому

      @@gore-geousmombie4686 What are you on. Is that you red top girl?

  • @jravenx
    @jravenx 29 днів тому +768

    Saying you cant cook because you have kids O.O so the kids eating gunk too

    • @brandinshaeffer8970
      @brandinshaeffer8970 27 днів тому

      Those kids will grow up saying their weight is genetic, but really it's that mom is feeding them the poison she feeds herself.

    • @empmmp2
      @empmmp2 27 днів тому +15

      👏😭

    • @HyperIndian
      @HyperIndian 26 днів тому +35

      Exactly. Not only a bad example but a terrible parent

    • @WhitestManAlive303
      @WhitestManAlive303 26 днів тому

      I've never seen a obese kid with skinny parents

    • @Somnavira
      @Somnavira 24 дні тому +3

      Yes usually. It’s sad

  • @elymurray8808
    @elymurray8808 3 дні тому +2

    “Be nice to yourself!” 🎉🎉🎉

  • @DevletGM
    @DevletGM 29 днів тому +702

    9:23 "She's a little bit plus size" girl you're not a little bit plus size, you're just obese and that's totally fine to admit. This denial is what causes our own demises as human beings. I've been there done that until I lost 154 lbs.

    • @greenwithenvee2337
      @greenwithenvee2337 26 днів тому +35

      When she said that I was like HUH!?? A LITTLE BIT!?!?

    • @gerlinplays1806
      @gerlinplays1806 26 днів тому +6

      i mean she did admit she was obese, no?

    • @DevletGM
      @DevletGM 26 днів тому +13

      @@gerlinplays1806Not at all. She said or implied at least, when someone would look at me they’d consider me “plus size” while medically (just a technicality) I am considered obese.

    • @Nawizi1
      @Nawizi1 25 днів тому

      I thought she said "I am obese"

    • @drooooop
      @drooooop 23 дні тому +3

      They think obese means the people on my 600 pound life. Half of America will be obese by the end of the decade.

  • @planetno.97
    @planetno.97 Місяць тому +1241

    I am obese, but I’ve started hitting the gym since last week. Wish me luck 🙏🏻

    • @danirisalmonte3042
      @danirisalmonte3042 Місяць тому +69

      You got this!!!

    • @k.5425
      @k.5425 Місяць тому +23

      Luck🎉

    • @hiwalkalone1801
      @hiwalkalone1801 Місяць тому +16

      I commend you for even seeing that this lifestyle is unhealthy and you can and will do something about it rather than trying to cope. By the way, if you’re heavy heavy walking and consuming less food will lead to greater weight loss than lifting weights.

    • @aviadormercuriano1964
      @aviadormercuriano1964 Місяць тому +11

      you go this , take it slow , remember it took time to get to that point, and it will also take some time to get to your ideal weight/body

    • @brittneymusic
      @brittneymusic Місяць тому +5

      You got this. Find what works for you, keep consistent, rest days are okay, drink water!

  • @Nicole-vu5ju
    @Nicole-vu5ju Місяць тому +584

    38:30
    "How dare you" when she said that, it felt with so much compassion and empathy 😭❣️❣️

  • @leahjochelson6660
    @leahjochelson6660 10 днів тому

    the compassion these women show for each other is beautiful. wish everyone could be that way.

  • @alexbr550
    @alexbr550 Місяць тому +2969

    "I've been medically obese since I was 12, and I was not obese." So you think you know more than medical experts... maybe that's part of the problem on why you're obese.

    • @trenko_heart5358
      @trenko_heart5358 Місяць тому

      Or maybe we live in a flawed medical system that reproduces fatphobia, just a thought

    • @clovninie
      @clovninie Місяць тому +115

      exactly. You cannot just say that you were "not obese" because you thought so and did not agreed with what the doctor said.

    • @kphilz12
      @kphilz12 Місяць тому +36

      I’m sure this statement that was made during the video was solely based off what the BMI chart says. Which is something that medical professionals use to establish whether you were healthy or overweight or obese. If you look at the BMI chart, and you look at professional athletes majority of them would probably fall in the obese category just based off height and weight, which is the BMI chart off of

    • @imusedtoit
      @imusedtoit Місяць тому +26

      To be fair, there is a HUGE problem with BMI. The classification of obese from a BMI of thirty was done studying white men only. Whether or not someone is so overweight that it negatively impacts their health depends on a variety of factors, not just a number on a chart because that number can mean different things for different ages, sexes, races etc. So no I don't think it's weird to criticize the chart in your doctor's office constructed from incomplete research. Plus, BMI only accounts for weight and doesn't include other factors that influence your health

    • @hail8163
      @hail8163 Місяць тому +3

      @@imusedtoit literally… She didn’t have many valid points, but this was one of them

  • @Truechildofgod
    @Truechildofgod Місяць тому +431

    Autumn is just the sweetest. All of her answers seemed honest. I hope she has a very nice life ❤️

    • @mia.skereeee
      @mia.skereeee Місяць тому +13

      @sadautumnroseyou give such welcoming and positive energy ❤️ you’re so sweet girl!

    • @kintsugi-c6u
      @kintsugi-c6u Місяць тому +6

      she's adorable

    • @kintsugi-c6u
      @kintsugi-c6u Місяць тому +3

      @sadautumnrose happy to hear that :)

    • @AloneRacecar
      @AloneRacecar 19 днів тому +1

      Yeah I really liked Autumn too! Very lovely and genuine. ☺️

  • @markmendoza5204
    @markmendoza5204 26 днів тому +1109

    Saying you don’t have time is the worst excuse especially if you have any form of social media

    • @Gervardo
      @Gervardo 24 дні тому +19

      I agree. But they might also need that in their lives, time and ways to decompress of the stresses of life. But yes in the end it comes down to prioritising physical health/fitness

    • @lifevest1
      @lifevest1 24 дні тому +20

      @@Gervardo Gym is decompressing. You don't need to use your mind, you just lift weights. At most you have to count and adjust form.

    • @pribhi98_
      @pribhi98_ 24 дні тому +17

      @@lifevest1it’s not just that though. Social media connects you with friends and family, it’s a way of communication. The issue is America’s work and hustle culture (which we’re forced to do) as well as the American diet and not prioritizing health and wellness.

    • @Gervardo
      @Gervardo 24 дні тому +11

      @@lifevest1 for you it might be, some people really dislike the gym

    • @imaybeanidiotbut9338
      @imaybeanidiotbut9338 24 дні тому

      Social media has been proven to be a net negative for society.

  • @Battlegrounds49
    @Battlegrounds49 11 днів тому +1

    What a BIG conversation with some HUGE points!

  • @Marte_H
    @Marte_H Місяць тому +2677

    I feel like people throw the word "privileged" around too easily nowadays

    • @natalievu4399
      @natalievu4399 Місяць тому

      Especially people who play victimhood olympics.

    • @xerxestheimmortal1
      @xerxestheimmortal1 Місяць тому +180

      All these people are Americans, and it you are american, you are already highly privileged.

    • @organsnatcher8395
      @organsnatcher8395 Місяць тому +53

      ​@@xerxestheimmortal1I was literally about to comment this as bad as America gets were SUPER privileged.

    • @Whueso
      @Whueso Місяць тому +19

      And just for saying that, they'd say you're clearly privileged.

    • @ndubb255
      @ndubb255 Місяць тому +33

      @@xerxestheimmortal1preach! People act like privilege is a bad word, it’s not and it also doesn’t undermine the hard work people have done to earn what they have. But being able to acknowledge you have privilege is a sign of maturity imo.

  • @saharm226
    @saharm226 Місяць тому +1812

    I feel like when asked the question "fit women are more attractive", most of them chickened out of agreeing. Saying personality is more important doesn't reject the notion that being fit is more attractive. It just means that being physically attractive isn't the most important thing.

    • @asdfghj13579fly
      @asdfghj13579fly Місяць тому +302

      It's called dodging and coping. “Fit” is a physical characteristic. They immediately started talking about nonphysical characteristics. I highly respect Dahna for stepping forward with her honesty. Not sure if she knew she'd be the only one though.

    • @MissBandito1
      @MissBandito1 Місяць тому +49

      I agree with you. Fit looks different for different people. If someone is 400+lbs and they are down to 240. That requires work and effort and contributes to attractiveness. Mindset, dedication, and health

    • @ebunsmith1679
      @ebunsmith1679 Місяць тому +58

      I agree. You find someone attractive and want to get to know them, then their personality enhances your attraction to them. That baseline attraction is purely physical most of the time

    • @Bobbyheebee
      @Bobbyheebee Місяць тому +19

      Some of us are demisexual and genuinely aren’t physically attracted to anyone until we have an emotional connection with them. I’ve dated folks of all kinds of body types. My longest relationship was with someone who has been the biggest person I’ve dated (about 350lbs 6’2”, not fit). I will say my personal caveat is that I prefer to date people who can do physical activities with me, but that doesn’t mean they have to be skinny or fit to do so. I am a size 12 and got some cushion and I can kick skinnier peoples’ asses at a number of physical activities. If you tell me that you can’t go on a 40 mile bike ride up a mountain with me, when that’s one of my favorite things to do, then it’s not gonna work out.

    • @angytingz
      @angytingz Місяць тому +4

      My thoughts too

  • @josipa1226
    @josipa1226 Місяць тому +1050

    It's so sad how most of the women feel offended when a doctor/proffesional/close friend tells them they are obese. It's not an offensive slur, it's a medical term, and when a proffesional tells you that, it means you are by all health standards overweight and it is endangering your life in some way. They are being paid to help people, and I believe most of them got into that proffesion because of that, it's just so dissapointing to see how hard it is for some people to just accept criticism that is meant to elongate their life.

    • @aviadormercuriano1964
      @aviadormercuriano1964 Місяць тому +17

      not even elongate life , i was obese three years ago , existing was painful , couldnt breath, couldnt walk , i was always uncomfortable, sweaty , stomach pains ,lung pains ,plus feelings disgusted by my body , losing weight made life worth living

    • @vivianacordero135
      @vivianacordero135 Місяць тому +9

      But BMI is not really a medical term, it is a mathematical one. Nobody ever questions where this term comes from and how it came to be.

    • @crazguykwan8955
      @crazguykwan8955 Місяць тому +8

      @@vivianacordero135 How about we have a look away from numbers and at real bodies then? Can you realistically say that someone who is taking up 1.5-2 seats, breathing hard, can barely fit clothing, and generally is nowhere near fit, is healthy? Once again disregarding BMI. Using your eyes and brain here.

    • @wagwan6935
      @wagwan6935 Місяць тому +6

      I totally understand but I also can see this from their perspective. “Retard” was also a medical term and for years people who were *Not* doctors used that word to put down disabled people. I would say that the word obese is also used in the same way by people who are *Not* doctors. And when not used by doctors it is almost always used as a derogatory term. I wouldn’t want to be called obese by my doctor or anyone if I was bullied all throughout school with that same word.

    • @kiaratheexplorer4
      @kiaratheexplorer4 28 днів тому +1

      Literally because of everyone in these comments, MAKING it into a bad thing. 🤦🏽‍♀️🤦🏽‍♀️

  • @dankjerry8927
    @dankjerry8927 18 днів тому +2

    The lady in the red dress was so supportive. I like how she made everyone feel more confident about themselves. You can tell that she’s been through a lot and that she’s really strong. ❤❤

  • @leen34568
    @leen34568 Місяць тому +175

    39:07 that entire interaction was so sweet. and the mediator crying was so cute i love him❤

  • @kt114
    @kt114 29 днів тому +563

    I wish I could’ve been on this panel! I have hypothyroidism which is one of those medical issues that not only causes weight gain but makes it harder to lose weight. However, I remain fit regardless. I don’t use it as an excuse. I have to try harder than the average person to maintain but so be it. I do it for my kids so that I can do fun activities with them. I want to be as healthy as possible so that i can be there for them. But also for me. Working out is the #1 thing that helps with my anxiety and panic disorders. When I work out regularly I don’t have those issues. That’s something I’ve had to learn the hard way. Working out and eating healthy are essential for optimum physical and mental health. Period.

    • @CM-vr2uu
      @CM-vr2uu 27 днів тому +5

      Sorry that you’re having to go through that. Thyroid issues run in my family on my mom’s side and I’ve seen its effects. My mom is skinny, but she can gain weight easily so she barely eats and she has developed an eating disorder and her sister gained a ton of weight and has struggled with her weight for years. My cousin and I both have Hashimoto’s and we’re both thin, but struggle with other things from it. I think genetics plays a big role as her and I both have always been thin.

    • @LarissaJohnsondeel
      @LarissaJohnsondeel 27 днів тому +8

      I wish I had a mom like you. Thank you for doing that for your kids.

    • @jonmichael7783
      @jonmichael7783 27 днів тому +5

      Same. I’ve lost 80 pounds w/ hypothyroidism and diabetes..

    • @kt114
      @kt114 27 днів тому +1

      @@LarissaJohnsondeel You 100% deserve a loving mom that would do anything for you. But if you don’t have that by blood, you can still find a mother figure that fills that void. 💜

    • @LarissaJohnsondeel
      @LarissaJohnsondeel 27 днів тому +1

      @@kt114 Thank you!

  • @theophany4935
    @theophany4935 Місяць тому +2377

    "I don’t have time"
    "Healthy food is too expensive"
    "My mental health is too bad"
    "Your life allows you to be fit, mine doesn’t"
    This is the product of a fixed mindset. Nothing but excuses on the obese side.

    • @jmoney9790
      @jmoney9790 Місяць тому +102

      Exactly, if you don't have time, wake up an hour earlier to fit in a workout. If you sleep for 6 hours a night, make it 5 hours.

    • @potat7309
      @potat7309 Місяць тому +76

      As a person who's lost weight while having no job, got
      obese while having no job ,
      lost weight while having a job, and gained it again while having a job
      And 2 kids now
      I can agree
      I've used all the excuses in the book

    • @rogerteaminski6351
      @rogerteaminski6351 Місяць тому +65

      Victim mentality.

    • @h3rdr3duc3r
      @h3rdr3duc3r Місяць тому +62

      They have the ultimate loser mindset.
      They have accepted defeat.

    • @miralan2215
      @miralan2215 Місяць тому +33

      I agree, if they have time to follow those influencers on Tiktok and watched their videoes, they have time to work out.

  • @yanaaleice
    @yanaaleice 11 днів тому +2

    Heavy on “so we agree”, I HATE hypotheticals that circle back to us agreeing… said a whole bunch of ifs ands & buts just for the question to still be answered the same

  • @MeowLikesGuns
    @MeowLikesGuns 25 днів тому +391

    The girl in the red dress is the only genuine person who isn't blind in delusion

    • @Yrar
      @Yrar 23 дні тому +41

      And the Asian baddie

    • @jeovanicontreras409
      @jeovanicontreras409 21 день тому

      She might be delusional cuz she doesn’t seem fit and if she has botox wouldn’t surprise me if she had some other surgeries done

  • @amy9091
    @amy9091 Місяць тому +1761

    Being obese isn’t a choice, it’s the result of hundreds and thousands of choices.

    • @lildel7698
      @lildel7698 Місяць тому +16

      Meanwhile I can’t afford to eat

    • @KingBeef216
      @KingBeef216 Місяць тому +19

      Nailed it.

    • @HulaMask
      @HulaMask Місяць тому +34

      Success is a lot of small things done well and so is failure. I agree with what you had to say.

    • @aquariuswaive
      @aquariuswaive Місяць тому +3

      🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @rjmurphyo0
      @rjmurphyo0 Місяць тому +15

      being skinny is not my choice, have you seen my pay check and inside my refregerator? lol I have 2 oatmeal packs and some stale cherrios that I need to throw out. Maybe these ladies aren't poor enough.

  • @marissathomas5483
    @marissathomas5483 Місяць тому +747

    absolutely love Leia. you can tell she truly cares about this topic and people seeing their worth while not putting down anyone.

    • @mimiwimi2683
      @mimiwimi2683 Місяць тому +38

      and her hairstyle is sooo cute!!!

    • @brookeh21
      @brookeh21 Місяць тому +5

      She isn't fit though so I don't know why she's on that side

    • @JupiterYuno
      @JupiterYuno Місяць тому +32

      @@brookeh21 ”Fit” doesn’t neccessarily mean skinny. If you take a look on the olympics pretty much everyone is fit but in their own way for their sport

    • @brookeh21
      @brookeh21 Місяць тому +2

      @@JupiterYuno fit doesn't mean you have a belly poking out under your dress either.

    • @poofeh
      @poofeh Місяць тому +30

      @@brookeh21 even the fittest of women have their bellies poking out. some part of it is literally our uterus and you cant do anything about it. i think having a flat stomach is very unrealistic for majority of people

  • @carmenli9499
    @carmenli9499 3 дні тому +1

    The woman in red is wonderful. so knowledgeable, direct, and compassionate

  • @dylanko3626
    @dylanko3626 Місяць тому +1384

    Saw the title and instantly pressed play 😂

  • @Pononymous79
    @Pononymous79 Місяць тому +357

    This is worthy of applause. What a difficult, sensitive, and deeply personal topic, and what brave young women for being able to share their views so candidly and with compassion for one another.

    • @robert8930
      @robert8930 Місяць тому

      im just happy i can spread hate in the comments

    • @eggsmcmuffin2741
      @eggsmcmuffin2741 Місяць тому +8

      seriously! I thought there would be moments of rage bait but this whole conversation was really mature.

  • @hi-kb3hb
    @hi-kb3hb Місяць тому +300

    Obesity doesn't mean you are a bad person, but the first step to change something is to acknowledge it, not deny it.

    • @avaphynx
      @avaphynx Місяць тому +1

      I believe it's the medical field.

    • @Halario02
      @Halario02 Місяць тому +1

      Best comment I've seen so far :)

    • @jones2277
      @jones2277 Місяць тому

      i think it does. it means you're lazy and weak.

  • @A_ngelle_
    @A_ngelle_ 11 днів тому +3

    I will argue that eating healthier is not expensive. Last year, I chose to take my health super serious and lost over 20 lbs, went from 189 to 166 in 2 months just from changing my diet, avoiding VERY specific foods and walking 1 hour every day. I mainly avoided bread and dairy because i have pcos and it helps. Spent $60 every weekly grocery trip while balancing rent, bills, transported while making $15/hr. For anyone living below that, i can definitely understand where it could be difficult.

  • @marianadiaz3692
    @marianadiaz3692 Місяць тому +904

    Lady in the red dress spoke to my soul 🥺❤️ I've never heard someone say "How dare you!" with such love and compassion ❤️

    • @Ringo_Kid
      @Ringo_Kid Місяць тому +10

      @sadautumnrose You two were great!

    • @aissatouk22
      @aissatouk22 Місяць тому +6

      @sadautumnroseloved u so much!!

    • @notdebby
      @notdebby Місяць тому +18

      I literally cried cause what she said I NEEDED to hear

    • @k.5425
      @k.5425 Місяць тому

      Timestamp?

    • @notdebby
      @notdebby Місяць тому +1

      @@k.5425 I’m not too sure but just listen to the last prompt and what she had to say when she first walks up

  • @belenjohnson-bs2bm
    @belenjohnson-bs2bm 22 дні тому +228

    this video is genuinely so sad praying for all of them😭😭 i hope the girl in the pink shirt finds love

    • @AloneRacecar
      @AloneRacecar 19 днів тому +9

      Yes I liked her as well. So pretty and delicate! 🤗

  • @krazykuro.8774
    @krazykuro.8774 28 днів тому +455

    All these women saying “you’d look at me and think I’m a lil overweight but I’m obese clinically” need to realise everyone looking at you is thinking you are obese

    • @DontLoseYourVoice
      @DontLoseYourVoice 25 днів тому

      Seriously. They are delusional. People take one look and don’t look back. They are the invisible women we pass on the sidewalks.

    • @XhumpersX
      @XhumpersX 25 днів тому +7

      Thats where the body positivity comes in.

    • @stephengrzybowski4374
      @stephengrzybowski4374 24 дні тому +4

      😂 yeah we have eyes

  • @473mishke
    @473mishke 3 дні тому +1

    Notice the main difference between the two groups: can-do attitude versus a defeatist attitude. It's all about attitude.

  • @SpyKids2GOAT
    @SpyKids2GOAT Місяць тому +2179

    Red lady saved this episode. She made up for a general lack of logic and reasoning in that room.

    • @psychobillynumbnuts1
      @psychobillynumbnuts1 Місяць тому +114

      The men episode was better cuz they didn't walk on eggshells

    • @icybuuchannel
      @icybuuchannel Місяць тому +49

      I like the lady in red too

    • @Aubrey2004-j4k
      @Aubrey2004-j4k Місяць тому +4

      ​@@psychobillynumbnuts1 facts

    • @hoopadooppoopnloop1267
      @hoopadooppoopnloop1267 Місяць тому +16

      She is a fit imposter lol

    • @jfcdisguy
      @jfcdisguy Місяць тому +47

      First time she opened her mouth was to cut someone off and be rude. But with UA-cam being generally all about FACTS and LOGIC, I'm not surprised literally everyone is all over her, lmao

  • @stephenh694
    @stephenh694 Місяць тому +582

    "Would you consider me obese" coming from a person who is morbidly obese is such a bizarre phenomena. It's also so very clear she is not an active person.

    • @lc-do5eo
      @lc-do5eo Місяць тому +3

      Not saying I disagree with the comment but why would you say she isn’t active?

    • @stephenh694
      @stephenh694 Місяць тому +21

      @@lc-do5eo well by definition active means to pursue physically energetic pursuits, I don't want to make inferences to her state, but hopefully you get the picture! Certain words are thrown around in this video as though they don't have a specific meaning, active is just one of them haha

    • @LetHimRead
      @LetHimRead 29 днів тому +22

      @@lc-do5eo why would one say water is wet? Come on don't be so open minded your brain falls out

    • @harinu9339
      @harinu9339 29 днів тому +2

      She said she can run though, lol.

    • @PaetynPeebles-tg5cb
      @PaetynPeebles-tg5cb 29 днів тому

      I agree with you, but she isn't morbidly obese. She's just obese. MORBIDLY obese is literally one step away from dying, hence the use of the word MORBID. You have to be 400+ pounds to be morbidly obese. She's probably 250-300, which is still inexcusable.

  • @themiddleones11
    @themiddleones11 Місяць тому +539

    Leia is such a breath of fresh air. So much empathy radiating from her throughout

    • @itswhatever6950
      @itswhatever6950 Місяць тому +61

      Did we watch the same video?

    • @danielapaz4755
      @danielapaz4755 Місяць тому +4

      I'm sorry, which one is Leia? I didn't catch the names 😭

    • @camilaserrano7190
      @camilaserrano7190 Місяць тому +11

      @@danielapaz4755the blonde red dress

    • @k.labpickle
      @k.labpickle Місяць тому +18

      @@danielapaz4755
      The annoying red dress 😭😭

    • @michael-mn7ok
      @michael-mn7ok Місяць тому +34

      She was not empathetic at all. She was jumping down everyone’s throat.

  • @mssiggypiggy
    @mssiggypiggy 17 днів тому +1

    I've taken medication and have lost a lot of weight after trying for years to do it on my own. I'm now a lot healthier, happier and fitter. I'll gladly take it for the rest of my life. I'm proud of how I'm living my life. Screw 'doing it on your own' - find what works for you and stick to it. I'm not ashamed. I've faced challenges in my life that would have crushed these people...I have achieved so much that I'm proud of. I don't need to be ashamed of not 'doing it on my own'. What matters is what I do with my life and how I contribute to this world.

  • @stevenking997
    @stevenking997 Місяць тому +1065

    I just went from 325 to 210, 90% of the stuff coming out of the obese side are excuses.

    • @lyric2576
      @lyric2576 Місяць тому +47

      Proud of you

    • @Melodyy33919
      @Melodyy33919 Місяць тому +12

      I'm so proud of you too!! I would absolutely love some tips plz? I'm trying to lose 30lbs and it's pretty difficult 😕

    • @lilibe-ff4dh
      @lilibe-ff4dh Місяць тому +3

      Proud of you.

    • @sophiethelk9557
      @sophiethelk9557 Місяць тому +2

      Amazing! Congratulations :)

    • @tyronedavis1300
      @tyronedavis1300 Місяць тому +13

      @@Melodyy33919put the fork down and walk more. You will reap the most rewards through restricting calories from food rather than relying on exercise to burn calories. Make easy swaps like sodas to calorie free, food groups to low sugar etc

  • @JLad11053
    @JLad11053 26 днів тому +520

    At Costco :
    $15 - 3 Rotisserie chicken
    $10 - 5lb Bag of mixed veggies
    Less than $1 - Pot of rice
    $5 - 3 lbs of Sweet potatoes
    You can have 3 healthy meals every day for the whole week for about $30

    • @JohnyZman
      @JohnyZman 25 днів тому +48

      Amen. It’s not hard. Their problem is they don’t want to eat it.

    • @_Ang3licGh0ulz_
      @_Ang3licGh0ulz_ 25 днів тому +10

      She was speaking about only having 12 dollars. Yes that's cheap but I may not have enough money to pay for a 30 dollar meal while tryna pay my rent and other bills.

    • @penelopephelange
      @penelopephelange 25 днів тому +7

      Rotisserie chicken's are only healthy if you take the skin off. Have you seen the calories on those labels? lol

    • @doyouunderstandthis
      @doyouunderstandthis 25 днів тому +24

      @@_Ang3licGh0ulz_it’s not a 30 dollar meal. It’s food for the rest of the week.

    • @doyouunderstandthis
      @doyouunderstandthis 25 днів тому +17

      @@penelopephelangecalories don’t equate to health. A food can be highly nutrient dense while also having a lot of calories.

  • @LEJON310
    @LEJON310 Місяць тому +146

    They respond to general questions with personal answers 😮‍💨

    • @wagwan6935
      @wagwan6935 Місяць тому +9

      Are you new to Middle Ground?

    • @nulevelproductions
      @nulevelproductions Місяць тому +4

      This is how women debate unfortunately.

    • @natarcila2826
      @natarcila2826 29 днів тому +6

      sometimes we forget that personal bias is inevitable. they are speaking from their own experience. in conversations like this, the experiences and perspectives of others is important data that can lead us to broader understanding.

    • @crimsonruby4213
      @crimsonruby4213 29 днів тому

      yea its called “personal opinion”

  • @supersoldier_24
    @supersoldier_24 8 днів тому

    From being a health coach for the past six years, helping people lose weight and building muscle. This has been a very great middle ground type of podcast. It really goes to show that everybody has different uppers from their family members. To the ones that naturally empower other people from who they are. And who they became on their own fitness journeys. Thanks for your input, ladies.

  • @svnuss
    @svnuss Місяць тому +883

    Obese and medical obese is the same thing, stop coping

    • @kettei5408
      @kettei5408 Місяць тому +10

      I think they are confused the colloquial use of obese with the literal definition and that is the issue

    • @FloatingInSpace5702
      @FloatingInSpace5702 Місяць тому +10

      The BMI is an antiquated tool, which doesn’t take into account muscle volume etc… many professional athletes are “medically obese” but not by society standards. I think that woman just didn’t know what she was talking about and is maybe not ready to accept that term

    • @lachlanross1
      @lachlanross1 Місяць тому +45

      @@FloatingInSpace5702 yeah but none of the women in the video that were obese had high enough muscle mass for that to be a factor

    • @FloatingInSpace5702
      @FloatingInSpace5702 Місяць тому +9

      @@lachlanross1 it’s still an antiquated tool. The guy who made the BMI literally said in his study that he created it for to not use it as a source for comparing health. The only reason why it’s used is because health insurance companies needed a guideline to go off of so they chose that.
      Are the girls in the video obese, yes - but I 1000% believe we need a new way to define obesity that takes in more than height and weight.

    • @OwGash
      @OwGash Місяць тому +17

      @@FloatingInSpace5702 This is such a cope argument. Most people won't have enough muscle to actually raise their weight enough to obesity levels.
      It takes years and years of dedicated working out to actually raise your ''muscle weight'' by 15 or so kg yet we have these couch potatoes who can barely even lift their own behind claiming they are heavy because of muscle. So no most athletes actually won't be ''medical obese'' because athletes actually have low bodyfat percentage which usually puts them at average weight

  • @Aaronyeip
    @Aaronyeip Місяць тому +138

    The real problem is not being able to admit there is a problem.

  • @sweetbeanpaste6987
    @sweetbeanpaste6987 Місяць тому +123

    37:54 almost made me cry fr, I love hearing these different perspectives being shown in such a respectful and supportive way in this episode

  • @lehuong3450
    @lehuong3450 2 дні тому

    I appreciate this video and how everyone discuss with kindness and calm attitude.

  • @ashi133
    @ashi133 Місяць тому +1070

    10:20 no im sorry, i dont believe her. she's getting out of breath just sitting there talking. ik some people will see this as "hate" but objective reality is not hateful, its a necessity. this is a pretty severe form of disassociation that she's experiencing and i sincerely hope she gets the chance to address and heal it so she can live a healthier life

    • @mayaaustin4651
      @mayaaustin4651 Місяць тому +46

      Literally came to comment the same thing

    • @icybooy11
      @icybooy11 Місяць тому +29

      I’m glad someone said it.

    • @cateclegg55
      @cateclegg55 Місяць тому +87

      I lost 150 pounds and I used to think exactly like her. All love to her, but yeah, she’s definitely bargaining and in denial about her health. Which honestly is none of my business but it’s not a great message in my opinion for younger girls. Like when I was a bit bigger than she is I was going on hikes every day, but they were like a mile and it took me forever and I was going slow so I wasn’t getting out of breath. So I told myself that I was exercising, but then I would sit inside the entire rest of the day and just eat. I didn’t have any concept of what it was like to actually exercise consistently and get my heart rate up, so honestly maybe she just hasn’t had a lot of those experiences yet but I really hope she can at least be realistic with herself in a nonjudgmental way, and accept that her reality is pretty skewed. I had to do the same thing and it was really tough and I got really really defensive, but it was totally necessary and changed my life.

    • @monbub
      @monbub Місяць тому +7

      ​@@cateclegg55That's an amazing amount of weight to lose! I'm proud of you. I hope she can learn to value her health and life too.

    • @TheThan-sx8ve
      @TheThan-sx8ve Місяць тому +4

      As someone who was aware enough to recognize and pickup on that detail, what would you think would help heal that?

  • @Restingmadface
    @Restingmadface Місяць тому +66

    I really appreciate how heartfelt this one was. Sometimes we don’t need to turn every topic into an argument.

  • @jackiet820
    @jackiet820 Місяць тому +158

    the way the women in the red dress reacted at 38:19 was the best thing I have heard in a rlly long time. Especially the emotion behind what she said

    • @alotter
      @alotter Місяць тому +3

      More people need to have that energy

  • @GhostMothhh
    @GhostMothhh 7 днів тому

    This episode made me so emotional especially at the end. Loving urself can be hard but it doesn’t have to be ❤