Are Harley Davidson Riders Bad?
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- Опубліковано 29 кві 2023
- Let's explore this controversial topic and answer the question are Harley Davidson Riders good or bad for motorcycling? Are Harley Davidson riders bad? Are they saving or killing motorcycling? What do you think?
Let's discuss good vs bad. Is it 1% clubs, outlaw motorcycle clubs that make people think Harley Davidson riders are bad?
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What is it about Harley Davidson motorcycles and the people that ride them that creates so much controversy, drama and hate.
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In my biking career of 44 years I've met and rode with all kinds of bikers. The conclusion I have came to is "there are assholes in every crowd." In general there seems to be a brotherhood amongst Harley riders nothing rivals. Definitely the good in the world.
Thanks, you are spot on
Fortunately I haven’t met any “bad” Harley riders, everyone has been totally cool. God Bless you all, appreciate it .🇺🇸👍🏻
Living The F🤪KING Dream ❗
Safe travels 🙏♥️🐾🐾🇦🇺
Thanks
My perception of other riders is admiration. Everyone i meet on rides or at group events are there for a common cause, helping people or simply enjoyment of going on THAT ride with mates! Life is way too short to worry about whether someone is good or bad at something. If people are having a go at life, rather than criticizing their actions maybe a little encouragement might show others a different light....and people just need to respect each other for who we ALL are. Ride safe and enjoy! 😎
Thank you, wise words
The few 1% bikers that I've met have all seemed to be genuinely nice people who just want to live their own lifestyle.
Great vlog Aymen ❤
Thanks Tennile, hope your well, missed you at the show today
They ripped off my 51 Pan in 1974. Great bunch of guys
Like the old saying “don’t judge a book by its cover” good and bad in all walks of life. But I do like how people think Harley riders are intimidating and move out the way! 🤣
Lol, me too
Just my two cents. Anyone who judges people as a group rather then the individual person misjudges. Truly just enjoyed your leader, follower and outcast video.
thank you
I ride a shiny in your face Red Ducati Streetfighter V2. Saturday I went to a Biker Swap meet locally. It was ALL Harley guys there. I idled in on my Italian Cappuccino machine and parked with the rest and had a wonderful time checking out everyones rides and chatting it up with people. I never once heard anything negative about my bike and I clearly did not fit in with the Harley bikes. I love all bikes, someday I'll add a cruiser to my garage and it will be a Harley.
Great that you have had good experiences. Ducati have awesome bikes!
Interesting topic. I think when we're young, there's a bit of a desire to belong. Maybe it's just to not be singled out. As an adult, I don't think of myself as a biker, a steamfitter, a surfer, what have you. But I do identify as a husband, father, son, and brother. As an aside to people's perceptions regarding motorcyclists/bikers: I once met Sonny Barger. I was at a small event and did a little road guarding. At the event location, Mr. Barger was there with an entourage from Oakland. I walked up to a pledge and asked if I could meet Mr. Barger. He gave me a hard up and down and said, "Wait here." The pledge walked over to some patch holders and spoke with them briefly as they gave me a good looking over. He came back and after giving me a short biker decorum lesson, walked me up to Mr. Barger. I greeted him with respect and told him what a pleasure it was to meet him. He treated me with equal respect, though I was a complete stranger. We had a short visit and then I parted and let him enjoy the evening. I afford respect to others until they prove unworthy.
Thats the way, respect others
As I stated in another one of your videos Aymen, I wasn't set on a Harley when I started riding, I tried out several different types and brands of bikes and ultimately, the bike chose me. The moment I rode my '21 Sport Glide I knew that was the bike for me and at that point, I also became a part of the Harley community and never looked back. Since that time, I've attended meetings, charitable events, and rides that help children and others and genuinely strive to put a positive spin on the biker community in general. As for other Harley riders I've met in my experiences thus far, I've never met a more generous, laid back, nicer group of people. I can honestly say, the biker community in general has been a very positive experience for me and I wouldn't trade it for any other pastime that I've ever been a part of. I sincerely wish people would take the time to focus on individual people more than "groups." It's so easy to lump everyone into a particular group and write them off as bad, just because you've been told something or experienced something that wasn't entirely positive. In closing this subject, there are good and bad people everywhere- be slow to judge and let them prove who they are instead of letting any outward thing define them. I wish you all a wonderful and blessed day, thank you Aymen for the great videos and engaging discussions, they are always appreciated! :)
Thanks for the wise comment and kind words, that's much appreciated
Another great video on so many levels.... love the the way you always academically explore the different views and opinions that are part of different walks of life...and in an entertaining way with an appropriate infusion of humour! Thanks for all you do!!!
Thanks Brian that's much appreciated
LOVE YOUR CHANNEL! found it a couple weeks back. I have wanted a bike for years. God blessed me with an 04 vrod for free. Just need to do some minor work and I will be one the road. Thank you for your videos!
Thanks and much appreciated. Awesome bike you will love it
Thanks Aymen.
Another great upload! Loving the topics. And thanks for the awesome merchandise, top quality. I’ll wear with pride 👌💯
Thanks mate, much appreciated
I ride a Harley Davidson and sometimes I'm good, sometimes I'm bad, but I'm always ugly!
I'll tell you what ain't ugly, my '07 Road King with white metallic paint, gold clearcoat and perfect chrome. In the sunshine she looks radioactive!
Something else that ain't ugly, those Australian women. The woman at 2:00 is just gorgeous and so are all the other gals in this video.
Lol, I passed that on to her
@@OldNotDead-Club very cool.
Here in Fla USA and just received OD Green T and a couple of beer Coozies. Top shelf quality and as an Old Gray Beard Harley Rider I love the Logo!!
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Hey thanks Dave, much appreciated. I sent you email about an hour ago before I saw this comment.
Your essay at the end is right on and very well presented.
Thank you
I am so glad I found this channel. Every topic you hit it right on the head. Your channel is extremely enjoyable. I’ve been riding bikes for 59 years and Harley’s for over 40 years and I have never heard Harley riders and bike described so completely. I’m now a regular subscriber of your channel.
Welcome aboard!
Nicely covered bro. Well done 👍🏼👍🏼
Thanks, much appreciated and love your channel by the way
Aymen love you're videos most people in the US are Leary of Bikers.I think folks here are intimidated by Harley rider's independent or 1% rider's.I love it when someone takes the time to engage in a conversation with a biker and at the end of it you get wow your a nice person and thanks for the chat 👍😎🤘🍻. Old guy's rule I'm 65 so that's my motto and I'm sticking to it ride safe ride free .✌
Thanks that's much appreciated. The people you meet on a Harley (which wouldn't happen otherwise) are awesome
Thanks Aymen! I believe you now... You are an editing god! xx
Lol, glad you are happy!
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Thanks Tex much appreciated
I live in New York! Everything you do Down Under, we also do! I have ridden next to Billy Joel. We ride the Miracle Mile, just like in his song! My next ride could be with a fireman, a plumber, a doctor, a lawyer, a CEO, or my Hells Angel's friends. Dee Snyder's Toys for Tots Xmas run has become a massive 10000+ bike run every Xmas. Toys for Tots has grown much bigger than just the motorcycle community on our island. If kindness is bad ass, then we must be bad ass characters.
You are spot on, a big hello from across the world
When I initially ran across your channel, I was drawn in because it was Harley Davidson themed. It's so much more than that, which is why I have stayed.
Thanks Odis, much appreciated
I ride Harleys,Bmws,Ktm,Kawasaski, Honda..Dont care what people say or think!!!
Good way to be
Yesterday I test-rode a 2023 Ultra Limited. Love it, probably be my first Harley. It's a step up from my Suzuki C50 made into a day rider bagger.
Great bike
Interesting topic and fair representation of motorcyclists, all makes and types. Everyone wants to be a part of something especially if it’s fun.
Thanks, very true
Another great watch. People are slowly waking up and realising what the kings of the castles are trying to do to the people. Were are all good people and some do bad things at different times in life, some never change the others get louder pipes to piss off that 1 neighbour thats always up ya Stay safe.
Thank you
Great video ,aymen, interesting topic,there's so called good and bad,in every theatre off life,I personally think we harley ,riders are a decent bunch of guys,and ladies, regards Michael, United Kingdom softail deluxe owner
Thanks that's much appreciated
LMAO at Whitey 😂 Great vlog Amon....Real men, women & families become part of the Harley culture for, charity, good causes, good times, being free to be oneself with like minded people!.
Thanks, lol he's a funny guy
Great video it was great meeting you yesterday at the bikes on the hill how do I go about getting a t shot or sticker
Hi Tom, great meeting you too - wasn't that an awesome show!!! Link to the website is here...
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Being Good, or being a good rider, regardless of brand of bike, comes from experience. Experience usually does or can come from being Bad. I expect young, inexperienced riders or "Squids" to possibly be bad on our motorways. But I encourage other riders in our ranks to self police, tell them of their wrongs, show them the correct or right way, and set them straight, because those types of riders give all of us, especially with the media here in the USA being so selective, a bad name. Sometimes it takes a really close call to straighten them out, sometimes they use all their luck or 9 lives of the cat, and end up statistics. As we say in America, you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make them drink. But at 64 and riding again, I'd say that retirement, having a good retirement plan, being able to have both the time and money to ride a HD pretty much means you must have done quite a few things right in your life to afford being in that position to ride one of the best cruiser bikes out there. And overall, society wise, that makes you good.
Thank you, good comment, wise words
My Dr rides too.
Lol everyone should ride
Theres a Good & Bad element in every gathering in life .. Peace ✌️…☠️
Wise words thanks
I remember a bikers event in Ireland many years ago at a well-known bikers meeting spot and some dudes turning up with the Hells Angels insignia and logo riding Harley Davidsons and I believe some of them did actually represent Hells Angels I didn't enquire about it to them but even though they had tattoos, piercings and a look of "don't f*ck with me" they were the soundest and chilled people I ever met. One of them named Clive even let me test out his bike, which astonishingly didn't weigh or ride as I thought it would totally the opposite - it felt light and rode comfortably on the road, a perfect combination for a rider/biker in my opinion. You do get some bad eggs but you get them every where and like Aymen says if you look past the looks they are genuine people just out for a ride with their mates. I'm a biker through and through and I know politicians create more problems, I hate them more.
Great comment, wise words - thank you
I've met good people doing good things I think everyone I've met had an agenda to help others. I think most Harley riders are others oriented.
Agree, thanks
Good talk, enjoy the wind. Riders in the most are great family people, and care for each others well being.
Thank you, that's appreciated
The guy pretending to run on the RG had me cracking up. 😂
Lol, thats Danny, M$B
People that ride Harleys are People, some good, some bad, and everything in-between, just like everyone else ;-)
Spot on
I once worked in a factory with a guy that was a 1%er , Everyone told me don't talk to the guy he's a H/A. I said that's stupid. I introduced myself said I was new to the factory , we had many great conversations over lunches for many months talking shit and drinking iced coffee from the local cafe. I dint disrespect him the club or patch, didn't have any issues. Funny that shortly rumors got around about me because I spoke to the 1%er. people are weird.
8:03 that sure looks like the Million Dollar Bogan! Great video though, we definitely have a stereotype
Great pickup, you are correct
@@OldNotDead-Club that goofy arm pumping gave him away, along with the CVO bag lid speakers and his jacket. But I love watching you two, all the way from Illinois
@@Fever_Rides thank you
I find RUBS dressed as Power Rangers on sports bikes and riding like idiots the worst, they don't know or want to know the what being a biker is all about. Old school bikers are a different breed and the salt of the earth. Great channel and awesome content! Keep em comin!! Respect from the UK 🇬🇧 👍
Thank you much appreciated
I ride and i get the freedom but i ride a kawaski at the moment . I live in the u.s. and i like many HDs. But i will admit. When i go to the beach in Florida. Id love to try it on a chromed out candy paint bike .
That would be fun
@@OldNotDead-Club can you do a review on your favorite biker bars?
I can put it on the list
Aymen, I would like you to do a video on biker nic-names. I'm interested in your opinion. Thank you sir.
Thanks it's on the list
It’s fascinating the imagery around the Harley and comparison of the terminator 2 (awesome film awesome bike) and how Arney was thought to be “the bad guy” and yet underneath turned out to the good guy saviour.
Also interesting is how much were people attracted Harley because of the film or were people attracted to the film because if Harley. Now make that comparison between the Indian in Terminator 3. 🤔 so what happened there then? Are Indians just expensive wanna be copies? You love putting the cat amongst the pigeons, perhaps a good subject for a video? Although I guess we all know that Harleys are far superior in every way.
Cheers for now. Looking forward to your next. 😊
lol, thanks. I think Indians have missed the mark with looks and still have a long way to go in many areas
Politicians are bad people. They don't ride Harleys. Streight up.
Seems to be true in the majority of cases
as I always say . just because u have tattoos and ride a harley. doesn't make u a bad person. the same as going to church and having no tattoos makes u a good person .
Spot on, thank you
I myself have never met a bad Harley rider I’ve seen the banditos at rally’s but I’ve always showed them respect so I’ve never had a problem
As far as other riders I’ve found a little respect goes a long way
Thanks, respect others goes a long way
Bad or good but I still love it😊
Lol me too
I was so veryvery fortunate to sell my 1999 Fat Boy to a Harley lover
or he was fortunate?
Growing up in the 70's and watching a massive convey of 1% er's storming up the old Pacific Highway from the back of my dad's Holden Kingswood was a sight to behold. Loud, chopped out, modded old shovels and the occasional pans, all blasting up the middle between traffic. It was clear what they thought of the establishment and conformity🖕🙂
Certainly is!
Well my two cents, I have just spent two weeks on the road and over 5000kms talking to Indigenous people in the state of WA's north and Kimberley region. I have been promoting health care education and overall wellness. I am a medical cannabis Advocate I do this on a 2023 Roadking special its black its custom and it most certainly creates an impression. Am I a bad person? I have done bad things in my life, I can ride bad I can ride I SAFTLEY I have done good things in my life
Thanks wise words
To be honest, when I was younger, I did a lot a stupid things. Nothing to be proud of. But as I aged, I have certainly gained a lot of better habits! Am I a good person or a bad person? Well these days, it depends on who you ask. One person will tell you I'm an asshole, another person will tell you I'm a great person. You see, these days I don't treat people bad or good, I treat them accordingly!!
Thanks that's probably the best way
Like many, I've done some bad things as a young man. But, how are you going to find your limits unless you stretch your boundaries. Oh Oh...I'm a stretchin" "em now, no longer a Springer Heritage rider-ahem, ride a Vulcan 1600.
I pushed boundaries in my careers too-rodeo clown, building contractor and much worse too-then found my calling. Taught agriculture in juvenile probation-all the teens I worked with had horrible backrounds-they needed guidance from folks that understand how damaged souls of children affect their adult selves... now teach vocational carpentry in a jail-inmates often get union jobs upon release.
I've found-once you find yourself...many of us work even harder to reach out a hand to our brothers and sisters who need the help...'cause who's gonna do it...politicians, many in law enforcement, bureaucracy?
Are HD riders bad people? Often, they had to overcome life's obstacles and have come out on the side of working to make this world a better place!
Oh, go Kawasaki!
Peace
Thank you - thats a great comment and love Kawasaki's too
"We own the road" and they wonder why a lot of people hate them...
I thought everyone was in love with our arrogance? You do understand humour don't you?
@@OldNotDead-Club I know it just a joke in this video but sadly there will be a lot of people out there interpete it into wrong way even worst is there are Harley rider that really think they own the road and being rude to other rider. 🥲
@@mikegla1746 you are correct - but that is a people issue irrespective of vehicle and trucks own the road
Yes, they’re horrible
Lol
Harley riders are only bad people to normies living a quiet regimented life in the suburbs. Like a dead life. Some of us Harley riders may be old but where not dead. 😊Live life to the fullest. That’s the the Harley brand. ✅
Thank you, spot on
@@OldNotDead-Club
Harley all the way , pride , tradition, camaraderie since 1903.
Dallas TX PD Motors. 20 + years . We had Harley’s . Tough bikes man . They took a ton of abuse .
Only people that uave ever gave me any crap has been sport bike guys, and on particularly aggressive Indian rider, dont know what that guy's problem was
I'm sorry to hear that
My cousin was a 1%er..not my scene. I like being an indie ride where 8 want when I want.
BUT there are some HD riders that carry on like boneheads as are some sports bike riders.
Treat as you find was my ma's saying
Wise words, thanks
@@OldNotDead-Club
Btw love the stickers...very nice. Might get a hand tatt with that...unless there's a copyright thing.
@@metcruza5536 if you do that send a high res photo please - would love to feature that on the channel
Harley riders are super cool
But like the lady said , real men
No nonesense
U can’t just walk up to the group and act arrogant and nieve
It’s a goal to strive for to be a real man
Strong, confident
All that to say, give respect to get respect
Thanks wise words
To quote ShadeTree Surgeon, " Bad people doing good things."
Lol, he's funny
I’m not sure but your bike is cool….but badly needs some bars on that thing. Stock bars are the worst.
Thanks, maybe in the future. I find most of the after market bars are too wide
Most Harley riders are just normal day to day people - but they are pretending to be slightly rebellious even if they’re not. It’s image over reality and Harley brings that out in people somehow, the desire to belong to and to be identified with a group by all having the same bikes and all dress the same. Agree with ability to ride thing but you do see a lot of Harley riders”paddling” around in car parks looking like they are on a kids balance bike. Mind you the same applies to the grey cladded BMW GS riders.
I agree, most Harley riders try to fit in and have that “typical Harley” look. However, there are Harley riders who are themselves and just like the style, ride and sound of Harley’s
Thanks
I don't much care either way. If I want to donate to charity, I can do it at the click of a mouse. I ride bikes for the enjoyment of riding bikes. I've owned or rented just about everything. I like my RK because it does what I want it to do and does it in comfort and does it reliably with ease of maintenance. I got nothing against the guys in vests who like to stand around talking, I'm just not one of them. I wouldn't fit in anyway in my plastic, hormone enhanced girly coat that doesn't get water logged and leave me soaking wet in a rain storm.
Perhaps if I stood around talking in a vest talking more often, I could just go inside when the weather changed? ;)
Triggered?
Hi. Its me, Belfast, Northern Ireland. How many road rage happening everyday between car drivers? A lot. How many bikers do this? Easy answer: none. So, those people who hate bikers, i should say "shut up and look to yourselfs".
Thanks
I bought my first ever big cc bike that is vrod muscle i ride for just 5 min and it became like riding on the sun is it normal ? My thighs were feeling really hot
Depends, some of them give off a lot of heat, that's one reason why people do mods to free up the engine which seem to cool them a little. I'm not well acquainted with the vrod.
@@OldNotDead-Club thanks for your time and feedback
i am really new for harley kindly can you suggest what type of mod i can go for to make it little cool down ?? I just need names so that i can youtube it and learn about it
Thanks
@@zamzamar9376 the easiest way is to go to your local dealer or mechanic because it depends on what you have available, budget etc
A more important question would be are your states road conditions bad!
lol, ours are horrible
Anyone running around with a HD, a cut-off festooned with an assortment of badges is piggy backing of legitimate genuine 1%ers.
.. basically cosplay for sad wannabe's.
Without the old school clubbies, HD would never have survived this long ...
Thats probably true
@@OldNotDead-Club The 'templates' - be they individuals or the actual clubs that todays weekend warriors try to emulate, are now few and far between - ironically replaced by manicured & shaved , social tweeters toting high priced 'girl bag's, red runners and no socks. These days a HD is a fashion accessory. A lot of the time I'm bordering on embarrassed to be seen anywhere near 'them' 😏
@@sidneysnottley6414 Fair call but I find the "fashion" is different in different sub groups and what can I say but we all have different tastes?
@@OldNotDead-Club I should add, due to being a card carrying grumpy old bugga that I'm not easily embarrassed ... anyway, moving on... dismounting from my soapbox.😀👍
I think I t is the shit between a persons ears that determines a good or bad person, the bike has nothing to do with it.
Thank you, wise words
We are all bad and evil, do get to our lane 😂😂😂 we are hated just we are doing things, that other people can only dream of, as your doctor do😂 Tale care, stay safe!!! Two wheels down!!!
Thank you
Neither!!!
Thats true
Haha there is bad people in every group of human kind. Me I have fkd up just like must people, I have done bad things to people who deserve it before I even thought of having a Harley. Now I have a Harley most Harley people I meet are great nice people, and there is a few what don't take shit and will (work) to help family.
Thanks - you are right, good and bad every where
He says my wife won't let me? Sounds like he's got a mummy.
A lot of guys are like this
Harley's is safer to ride than a sportbike that push biker to drive much faster .
Very true my friend
I don't believe people who ride Harley's are bad.... It's almost saying that all people who ride cruiser motorcycles are all bad people.... I've got friends that are patch with some MC clubs and they're real people no bulshit just pure real people....
I rather hangout with them than those who wear suits and judgemental son of a gun.....
Thanks
Sometimes they smell bad😂😂
lol, i'll keep that in mind
@@OldNotDead-Club maybe it's just me
@@michaeloneill5961 lol
In my opinion it just looks like dress up time for middle aged men. Still having that adolescent mindset of fitting in and wanting to belong, serious echo chamber of wanna be badasses .
Thanks
I know guys that want to ride, and love harleys, but they don't because their wives won't let them...PATHETIC!
Twice divorced here...men, live your life, not someone else's🇨🇦✌️😎
Great advice, wise words, thank you
At Min 12:30: Comment ...... then meet scotch back through nasal channel,...toooo funny. (waste of scotch however).
Lol, it is a waste of scotch lol
Yes we are all arseholes 🤣😂
Lol your ok
Get yourself a "strong and pretty" t-shirt 😂
lol sure thing
Most Harley riders aren't bad people, these days half of them are wankers. They only ride a Harley because it's trendy and only affordable for the above average wage earner. Harley's have lost the wild lifestyle.
Thanks, interesting perspective
Not bad but broke.
Thanks, but lol
SCUM😂Rises to tha top👊🍻
So do superstars
@@OldNotDead-Club😂
A life lived by the “rules” is not a life lived.
Excellent point
Can i get t shirts and stickers sent to western Canada?
You certainly can! Here is a link to the website...
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How about just Bad Ak-tors...???
Many would say that
The 1% mc are not to fuck with I know I was for more than 20 years
Thanks
Its all a mental thing, you all just hide behind the crappy harleys.. lol,
The indian guy is the smart one,, for sure..
See my video, "you don't know anything about motorcycles if you..."
Any biker is "bad" because they don't fit in "mainstream" societal norms.
As far as uneducated opinion goes, those can say anything they want.
Just like with anti-gun nuts. Take'em to a shoot, you'll get a brand new gun enthusiast....
It's ok not to understand biker's lifestyle, being that on any kind of bike.
Going back to Harley drivers, creme de la creme , envy will always guide the opinions of outsiders, i bet 1 ride would change most of their opinions.
Your explanation should be put on repeat...
Thanks, great comment
Thank you
Your wife say lol change her
I missed that? What do you mean?