SLIP TEST - 4MATIC vs 4MOTION - Mercedes C200 vs Volkswagen Arteon -

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  • Опубліковано 25 січ 2019
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    Mercedes W205 C200 4Matic (2017)
    vs
    Volkswagen Arteon 2.0 TDI 4Motion (2018)
    #duszaniespokojna #benz #arteon
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 84

  • @NeutralGenericUser
    @NeutralGenericUser 5 років тому +17

    Thank you so much for doing these tests. I have looked everywhere for years for something exactly like this, and now you are doing it. Keep up the amazing work!

  • @adventureforesterblog
    @adventureforesterblog 5 років тому +10

    Thanks! It was a little surprise that 4Matic failed the last test.

    • @johnny02128
      @johnny02128 5 років тому +3

      Agreed since it is slightly RWD biased with its AWD system.

    • @garyzhang5099
      @garyzhang5099 5 років тому +2

      4matic system just use break to breaking the spinning wheel

    • @travsformation1
      @travsformation1 3 роки тому

      I did notice something though, and it's that 4matic requires constant throttle to kick in when there's very little traction (such as only one wheel), and in this test, I get the impression that throttle was released when the tires began spinning, and wasn't allowed enough time to react. All the same, that doesn't take away from the fact it should be more responsive and 4motion is clearly superior

    • @4x4.tests.on.rollers
      @4x4.tests.on.rollers  3 роки тому +2

      @@travsformation1 That was the system cutting the throttle. You can see similar behaviour in many Benz cars, for example: ua-cam.com/video/3bJ6JOQR2C4/v-deo.html

    • @travsformation1
      @travsformation1 3 роки тому +1

      @@4x4.tests.on.rollers Damn it! I preferred to think it was the driver's mistake. F****ing 4matic! They really need to improve this!
      Thanks for the reply and the videos!

  • @namiheineko
    @namiheineko 5 років тому +1

    I like this test!

  • @andreasantini492
    @andreasantini492 3 роки тому +5

    Vw ARTEON! WOW!

  • @valentinisko5647
    @valentinisko5647 5 років тому

    Please, Acura MDX second generation from 2007 on test!

  • @SirGregory
    @SirGregory 4 роки тому

    Won't be long before manufacturers run these tests themselves during the development cycle. Perhaps like dieselgate, the software will detect the test condition and optimise accordingly?

    • @zepter00
      @zepter00 4 роки тому

      So.. 4WD systems will be very good in hardest conditions if They pass 3 rollers test.

    • @SirGregory
      @SirGregory 4 роки тому

      @@zepter00 4WD systems will be very good as long as manufacturers don't just game the 3 rollers test, the way they gamed the diesel emissions testing.

    • @zepter00
      @zepter00 4 роки тому

      Sir Gregory diesle gate iż nóg a true problem .. it was dony because America car industry cant fight with modern European cars and EU want to enforce norms whhich are almost imposible to pass by all of the car manufactures.

    • @SirGregory
      @SirGregory 4 роки тому

      @@zepter00 Yes, I understand your point, emissions is a complex issue.

  • @niilokorva6565
    @niilokorva6565 2 роки тому

    Are the wheels and tires same size? That matters.

  • @calvin4342
    @calvin4342 5 років тому +11

    I think the 4motion and the subaru traction are on top of the others.

    • @alliiz3101
      @alliiz3101 3 роки тому

      U mean subaru and quattro?

    • @lihlesasa6236
      @lihlesasa6236 2 роки тому

      Quattro and 4motion are the same. Because Audi is basically made by VW.

    • @Swiss4.2
      @Swiss4.2 9 місяців тому

      @@lihlesasa6236 Unfortunately not the case; VW use a haldex system while Audi use torsen. Some Audi cars use the haldex system like the Q3 and A3 but in general Audi use the torsen system. Torsen is better in snow and most conditions but VW's haldex system is still very capable.

    • @4x4.tests.on.rollers
      @4x4.tests.on.rollers  9 місяців тому

      ​@@Swiss4.2VW uses torsen to. Besides - Audi is barely using torsen now, it was replaced by quattro ultra system.

  • @piciu256
    @piciu256 5 років тому

    So in both these cars the all wheel drive is only good for helping you to accelerate on relatively evenly slippery surfaces.

  • @Xxxoddam
    @Xxxoddam 5 років тому

    Czy jest w planach test Insigni 4x4?

    • @4x4.tests.on.rollers
      @4x4.tests.on.rollers  5 років тому

      Jeśli tylko znajdzie się ochotnik... :)

    • @Xxxoddam
      @Xxxoddam 5 років тому

      duszaniespokojna w okolicach stolicy jestem do dyspozycji :-)

    • @4x4.tests.on.rollers
      @4x4.tests.on.rollers  5 років тому

      @@Xxxoddam Masz możliwość napisania do nas przez FB? :) Łatwiej będzie się odnaleźć za jakiś czas, stolicę na pewno jeszcze odwiedzimy (ostatnio zebrała się taka ekipa ua-cam.com/video/F7k9vOMUCs0/v-deo.html )

    • @filmydlawszystkich2157
      @filmydlawszystkich2157 5 років тому

      Czyli najlepszy jaki jest napęd na rolkach? Widziałeś ostanio automaniaka jak testowali audi, bmw i Mercedesa?

    • @4x4.tests.on.rollers
      @4x4.tests.on.rollers  5 років тому

      @@filmydlawszystkich2157 Nie ma najlepszego, często nawet wewnątrz jednej marki wyniki są różne, w zależności od modelu.
      Automaniaka nie widziałem, ale kilka dni temu osobiście usłyszałem od jednego z prowadzących, że także w tym temacie telewizja rządzi się swoimi prawami...

  • @jpch8814
    @jpch8814 5 років тому +9

    4Motion once again proves how good it is, it pretty much beat all the other AWD except Subaru.

    • @4x4.tests.on.rollers
      @4x4.tests.on.rollers  5 років тому +6

      It didn't beat Subaru, Suzuki, Jeep, Nissan, Volvo and some more.

    • @jpch8814
      @jpch8814 5 років тому

      @Andi-Bogdan Postelnicu New Torsen?

  • @NiceTubeAccount
    @NiceTubeAccount 5 років тому

    +1, samochody typowo drogowe i od razu widać że na 3 rolkach mają problemy, jedno koło które ma przyczepność nie daje rady ruszyć całym samochodem, ale to akurat dobrze do codziennej jazdy

    • @4x4.tests.on.rollers
      @4x4.tests.on.rollers  5 років тому +1

      Z tego, co ja tu widzę, to tylko w jednym przypadku jedno koło nie dało rady ruszyć samochodem ;)

    • @NiceTubeAccount
      @NiceTubeAccount 5 років тому

      ważne jak daje radę, w małym okienku widać że koło w każdym przypadku na 3 rolkach praktycznie się nie rusza, ledwo co się ruszy przy dużym gazie

    • @4x4.tests.on.rollers
      @4x4.tests.on.rollers  5 років тому +1

      @@NiceTubeAccount Nie ma znaczenia, jak się kręci, tylko ile momentu przenosi. A im wolniej zaczyna się kręcić koło z przyczepnością, tym łagodniej samochód ruszy.

    • @NiceTubeAccount
      @NiceTubeAccount 5 років тому

      no właśnie, widzę że zaczynasz łapać o co chodzi ;-) jak nie ma takiej mocy to samochodem tak nie rzuci i to jest prawidłowe i bezpieczniejsze przy normalnej drogowej jeździe

    • @4x4.tests.on.rollers
      @4x4.tests.on.rollers  5 років тому +2

      @@NiceTubeAccount Co mam łapać? Pisałem poprzednio, że czas reakcji potrzebny na przekazanie momentu jest dłuższy, nie jego wartość, ta narasta do momentu kiedy samochód ruszy.

  • @klaudek010
    @klaudek010 3 місяці тому

    Zrób ml w163

  • @kaanco35
    @kaanco35 5 років тому +18

    4MOTION is best.

    • @jovandjukic5923
      @jovandjukic5923 5 років тому +6

      Dont think so, think about Subary symetrical AWD ;)

    • @kaanco35
      @kaanco35 5 років тому +2

      @@jovandjukic5923 Symetrical Awd also good.

  • @ast5515
    @ast5515 5 років тому

    3:00 Rolling coal THROUGH the DPF? Knocking diesel engine? How does that even happen? Mercedes is a joke here.

    • @4x4.tests.on.rollers
      @4x4.tests.on.rollers  5 років тому +2

      That is gasoline.

    • @ast5515
      @ast5515 5 років тому

      @@4x4.tests.on.rollers Even more weird. How the hell does a petrol engine produce black smoke?

    • @4x4.tests.on.rollers
      @4x4.tests.on.rollers  5 років тому +1

      @@ast5515 I think it just looks black because of light.

    • @ast5515
      @ast5515 5 років тому

      @@4x4.tests.on.rollers Still shouldn't happen. The engine is clearly knocking. And I don't think it's caused by bad fuel.

    • @4x4.tests.on.rollers
      @4x4.tests.on.rollers  5 років тому +1

      @@ast5515 I don't know. Maybe GPF?

  • @loreBDJ
    @loreBDJ 5 років тому +4

    4motion from audi QUATTRO OFC much BETTER then 4matic

    • @4x4.tests.on.rollers
      @4x4.tests.on.rollers  5 років тому +1

      4Motion vs Quattro: ua-cam.com/video/JU2fJN8dbWU/v-deo.html
      4Matic vs Quattro: ua-cam.com/video/9xg0zcn62xQ/v-deo.html

    • @loreBDJ
      @loreBDJ 5 років тому

      @@4x4.tests.on.rollers old QUATTRO...

    • @iviivi187
      @iviivi187 5 років тому +2

      Car which has Stock fwd never cant be good As rwd...

    • @4x4.tests.on.rollers
      @4x4.tests.on.rollers  5 років тому

      @@loreBDJ How old?

    • @NeutralGenericUser
      @NeutralGenericUser 5 років тому

      ya, a FWD platform is better than a RWD platform, right? Nah, you're just an idiot honestly.

  • @jdm90ify
    @jdm90ify 5 років тому

    VW gives... A shit!
    Sh awd and symetrical awd are instoppable! German rust its nothing more than nice painted with quite good leather piece of rust. Bye bye

  • @napraznicul
    @napraznicul 3 роки тому

    4matic (the real one-c,e,s&, not renault- a,b&) is for Men's, then FWD 4motion haldex (except touareg and phaeton) is for scared womans😂. A real awd system are those rear bias, or even those equally split by mechanical center diff. Any other are good for rollers and for advertising production papers😂😂

    • @4x4.tests.on.rollers
      @4x4.tests.on.rollers  3 роки тому +2

      How about GR Yaris or Focus RS? Both FWD based, both without mechanical center differential, both with a clutch-packs... Newest 4Motion system doesn't use haldex to...

    • @napraznicul
      @napraznicul 3 роки тому

      @@4x4.tests.on.rollers neither using so GARBAGE rear diff as haldex ones. Both capable to sustain REAR BIAS transmission setting when is set as that. Same as mitsubishi evo. Don't conpare those real awd's vs. that garbage haldex fwd (or haldex derived system, doesn't matter.. those 4motion transversally mounted engine runs 99% of time as a FWD car only "for economy" and especially ..FOR RELIABILITY.. as you know)

    • @4x4.tests.on.rollers
      @4x4.tests.on.rollers  3 роки тому +3

      @@napraznicul Neither using mechanical center diffs to, so according to your previous definition - GR Yaris or Focus RS are not real awd. Evo is completely different story, completely different awd type and structure. And as I mentioned before - newest 4Motion in cars with transversally mounted engines has nothing to do with haldex.

    • @napraznicul
      @napraznicul 3 роки тому

      @@4x4.tests.on.rollers mate, you're in deep confusion: Rear bias awd system or symetric ones should NOT necesarly need to be driven by a longitudinal mounted engine! That awd bias is ordered by center diff control unit OR by mechanical construction of it. Definitely NOT by engjne position! As well, the GR and RS are both of them REAR bias awd systems, as ANY transversally mounted engine VAG (ONLY.. that is what i said.. please do NOT missunderstood my statements) awd car is FRONT bias or even "permanent fwd" as i like to define those.

    • @4x4.tests.on.rollers
      @4x4.tests.on.rollers  3 роки тому +3

      @@napraznicul Firstly - I may be in deep confusion only due to your English. Secondly - don't discuss with things I never said, I didn't say a word about longitudinal mounted engine. Thirdly - let's make it clear - GR Yaris (or Focus RS) are not rwd biased. Construction (layout) of their awd systems is exactly the same as for 4Motion cars with haldex, based on fwd platforms, no mechanical center diffs. *However* you can switch them by a button to rwd characteristics and that is achieved *only by* different ratios of front and rear diffs (well, actually there is no real rear diff in RS but a double clutch-pack unit). Newest 4Motion system for R models doesn't use haldex clutch-pack any more. Whole layout is still the same as it was, they just throw the haldex away and put in the double clutch-pack unit instead of rear diff. So now the structure is just like in Focus RS. Without electronics all of these cars are 100% FWD.