10:5511:14 I love how nonchalant tony was about the team, from day one he was always like "yeah let's try this avenger thing, it might be fun for a week, if we get tired of it we can just disband when we have the chance"
@@mikhaelgribkov4117 *Hank Pym:* Ants aren't communist. They famously have monarchies. *John Walker:* ANYTHING THAT'S NOT CAPITALISM IS COMMUNISM. (Joke courtesy of Waiting For The Trade on Tumblr. Excellent parodies, up there with Kerry Callen in my book.)
Really puts Tony being mad at Cap in Endgame in a different context. - I'm mad at you because you said we would face Thanos together and you weren't there! - But you said we could fight separately. - So I did. Never mind, then.
Well if an 8 foot tall super strong clown man looked at me and said "I'm a robot" I wouldn't question it. Seems like a decent android, none of my business to ask questions
7:13 It's always fun to pick up on the scenes where the "Marvel method" gets a little broken. Kirby has Hulk hiding in a circus; green, big, huge and dressed in full clown makeup and it's up to Stan to "explain" it. The second meeting with the story art already outlined: "Jack, he's not disguised, it's just the Hulk in clown makeup. Fine, keep it in, it's a good image with the juggling.... I got it, he's pretending to be a robot the ringmaster just happened to find. I'm such a genius." Let's be fair; Sometimes it's not always Stan Lee's fault.
Can you imagine?! I just picture a big ol pissing contest between them to decide who has a better more important relationship with heroes... only to have Jimmy Olsen come in and throw his signal watch laden penis down on the table! lol 😜
The Avengers in publication: The greatest team that will ever be... The Avengers for about 5 decades: Wanna hang? Wanna have room and board? Wanna stop being evil? So here's the place for you! It took it's time to become Marvel's Justice League in both universe and publication wise, but readers ate up those early years. (Gotta say Sasha, love the top and hair combo. This may sound negative, but it's not, you look like an early 2000's syndicated adventurer, like from Mutant X or that future girl from The Lost World lol)
I legitimately don’t know how to say this without feeling like I am crossing some line but Sasha looks absolutely stunning in that top! Seriously one of the most beautiful people on UA-cam that is also thoughtful and hilarious! Make sure your husband knows just how lucky he is!❤️
I wouldn't say weird, to me it feels natural! Not only is she intellegent, funny, fun, gorgeous, sexy, & foyn; but she's pretty much the ideal woman...no disrespect!
How did he pass as a robot? Probably just walked up and said: “I not Hulk, Hulk is Robot! See me juggle animals. Only robot do that!” Everyone at the circus: “…….yep….you are not the Hulk, please don’t squish us”
The fact that the Avengers were a hot mess from day one is what I always loved about them! ☺ Also, I would _love_ a deep dive into Donald Blake! It's something I've always meant to look into myself, but never got around to. And I suspect your take on it would be extremely entertaining!
Back in the day, I'd save my Avengers and FF comics to read at the same time. My reason was the bickering. The FF argued like a family, the Avengers argued like a project team with no clear leader.
Something I always find interesting about long-running comics universes, like at Marvel and DC, is how characters change in their depiction and portrayal over time. Like, I really like Janet Van Dyne/The Wasp, but sometimes these old, early stories just make me cringe. It really shows how we like to imagine that these things all came fully-formed from the Ideal Plane, when really they've always been works in progress. That can be kind-of reassuring for me, from a certain point of view!
I am old enough to remember this! My first Avengers was actually #8 though. I started reading comics in 1964, and mostly DC at first. My Uncle H.R. had hundreds of comics from 1941 to when he quit in 1965, mostly DC, but some Timely and Independents.
I'm enjoying the video so far but I gotta take a moment to appreciate how good Sasha looks today. Like she always looks great but I really like that outfit.
Ngl, that top is something else entirely Sasha! The pattern reminds me of Tiger Tail ice cream. I wonder if that number is actually stitched together, or if that’s a sports top under a matching collar & sleeve as it appears? Hella wicked, in any event.
The guys at Marvel just didn't have a clue how to handle female characters in the early 60s, did they? The Wasp named the team and wasn't even credited on the cover. And at what point did she change from the empty-headed borderline nymphomaniac of the early years, to the tough-as-nails alpha female that she was in "Under Siege"? Maybe the subject of a future video?
Chris Claremont (who is famous for bumping up the power and prominence of female characters such as turning Carol Danvers into Binary) wrote two issues of Marvel Team-Up in 1977 (59 and 60) wherein the Wasp receives a power upgrade from Hank Pym that made her an actual threat (she was pretty much just an annoyance before, if she was allowed to do anything). Then after her divorce from Hank Pym, Wasp took over as leader of the Avengers (in 1981/82 iirc) and became pretty badass, though her success as a leader is debated somewhat (She had to deal with a LOT of strong personalities as leader such as Hercules and Namor). In the 1990s she kinda returned to her more flighty self in West Coast Avengers (She also not so coincidentally reunited with Hank Pym, who was a member of that team) though she was still a force to be reckoned with. Her personality has flip flopped between those two characterizations ever since. I think it really depends on whose writing her, how much they like her, and how involved with Hank she is.
@@kaleremmers5095 To make matters worse, Wasp initially didn’t have ANY offensive weapons! She briefly jabbed bad guys with a PIN in her second appearance (Tales to Astonish #45)…but didn’t get her first “Wasp Sting” wrist weapon until a year later. For her first year, Janet was just an attractive, noncombatant SIDEKICK.
@@richardkonkle5079 Indeed! And then in Avengers comics, I don't think the writers understood how her Wasp's stings were supposed to work, despite them being clearly explained in Tales to Astonish. Iirc in one issue she uses the Wasp's Sting on Namor and the comic shows a panel of a wrist weapon with a bent needle sticking out of it smh
@@kaleremmers5095 Hank also gets similar treatment. His behaviour is very dependant on how much the writer likes him and he jumps back and forth from a competent scientist hero who had to reckon with his past or an emotionally unhinged man who's just as likely to cause terrible problems as he is to try and fix them. In some runs he's one of my favourite heros and sometimes it feels like the writers are short on ideas and went, "Well maybe Hank's crazy again."
Someone at the circus could have been in on the Hulk's deception - possibly the owner. Hulk could have come to them and made a deal be a star attraction and get the audiences in as a quid pro quo for hiding him. His collaborator helped disguise him and just told the rest of the circus employees that they'd obtained a robot that would really pack in the crowds.
The story goes that Bill Everett was very late completing the art for a new character that Stan had thought up, Daredevil. To fill this hole in the production schedule, Stan and Jack come up with The Avengers, using characters they have already introduced in the anthology titles and The Hulk whose own title had ended earlier. This need to quickly come up with a replacement title could account for the rocky story line and some plot holes in this first issue.
I'm not convinced that this is the one that shows all the Avengers at once. That honor goes to a What If? article that was presented as just a one- or two-page spread, asking "What If everyone who was ever in the Avengers was in the team at one time?", illustrated with a page just packed full of major and minor characters all responding to "Avengers Assemble!" at the same time.
One of the legends of how the Avengers were created was that Daredevil was taking forever to get off the ground (Something about Bill Everett having drinking problems), and so had to whip out something off the fly, and a "Justice League, but not really" was the best they could think of on short notice. And now it is the biggest pop culture thing of that past ten years. Because Daredevil needed more lead time.
That outfit reveals what a lucky husband you have! When I was a kid, I had a mind to save up the $400 Overstreet said Avengers #1 was in Good. I didn't end up doing this nor know where to buy one. I just assumed my local comic shop had one behind the counter where they kept the valuable stuff that they let you go through only under supervision, which back then didn't take that much, I bought my Man-Thing #1 and Amazing Spider-Man #102 from those behind the counter bins for $6 apiece, which was a lot for a comic back in the '80s. When I read the Marvel Masterworks volume for free from the public library, I thought I really dodged a bullet by leaving it to wealthy collectors. It was corny and didn't really get good until Roy Thomas started on it with things like Henry Pym not being able to return to normal size or die of shock.
I haven't read a lot of Avengers books (as I was more of an X-men fan) but, I'm currently going back and reading the whole Avengers Vol.1 series, to get a feel for the characters and see how the team worked in the early days! I must say the stories are very entertaining! I like loved the how Cap hates Baron Zemo and how quickly he fly into rages when he sees Baron! My favorite Avengers moment has to be from Avengers 10 when Thor says the Iconic phrase "Avengers Assemble"!!!. It still gives me goosebumps! Also I love first appearance and origins for characters and teams! I've been reading a lot of them lately! Just yesterday I read the First Appearance of the Legion of Super-Heroes!
11:27 Thanos isn't the only one who smiled at this- heck, I actually LOL. Another great video Sasha- also, to the best of my knowledge the Hulk never rejoined the Avengers (at least in the first volume of the book). I think that makes him the only founding member who never did. As far as Hulk passing as a robot, I think he got another member of the Teen Brigade to claim to be the one controlling him via their short wave radio set up- sounds logical in an early '60's way of thinking.
I don't know about you but I can totally see Robert Downey Jr selling that 'We will fight together. Or separately if needs be' line and making it work. And now you can too.
M FAVORITE AVENGERS MOMENT: Scott Lang has recently become the new Ant-Man, replacing Hank Pym who has become Yellow jacket. But no one but Scott and Hank are aware that Hank has passed on the Ant-Man identity to a new guy. So when Ant-Man AND Yellow jacket show up together, The Beast says, "ANT-MAN AND YELLOW JACKET IN THE SAME PLACE AND AT THE SAME TIME?? THAT'S FREAKY!!"
Thank you for another informative, fun video. Watching your channel always bring back my love of comics. I would love to see you do a video about the origin/timeline of Squadron Sinister
Still doesn't beat when they blow up Zemo by giving him a package of solvent that would remove his mask from his face, and then put explosives instead and blow him up. Like wow damn dude.
@@kaleremmers5095 Its just funny in the issue, cause if you didn't know that context, you'd just think he is a guy trying to remove a mask from his face, but yes still a Nazi
Odin: Loki, thou art banished to the Isle of Silence! Loki: Talkie, talkie, talkie, talkie…… One of the reasons the Teen Brigade panel seems haunting, is that one of the members resembles a young Jack Kirby. What was odd to me was how Loki’s eyes appeared in the sky. They’re EVERYWHERE!!! Those Watches seem fun, but the one I’m holding out for is the Dr. Manhattan symbol. Not only would it tell time now, the future, or several flashbacks (as needed), but it would be it’s own pun!!! No, no, just take a Minutemen to think about it. It’ll come to you. Sorry, can’t help. I’m writing comments 12 minutes ago… Meanwhile, I recommend comparing this story with its remake Avengers, the Origin from 2012. More modern. Slightly more elaborate. Even boasts a sequel. And no one lost Eyebrow control….
If you visit a nothern country and see an iron door out in the open, it's believed that if you go through it you'll get to the magical realm. But if you get hunted and have to get to safety, you have to walk through the door again and close it and the iron will stop magical creatures from getting through..!
For those who don't know. Fae means, in the most general terms, the Fairy Folk. Horseshoes at front doors* is a common example of iron as a ward, charm, or talisman of protection against harmful magic/magical beings. In olden times folks would actually lay the sick upon the anvils for the blacksmiths to pantomime hammering out the illness, magically! * horseshoes (and iron nails) were also kept near baby cribs. That's safe 😰
After I watched the first Avengers movie in 2012(and the animated Ultimate Avengers movie, both based on the same source material, the Ultimates), I wanted to know how they came together in the comics and when I read this, I was like, "Wut?" It wasn't quite what I expected, it wasn't a big alien invasion led by Loki that brings them together but basically a sibling quarrel that Iron Man, Hulk, Ant-Man, and Wasp got roped in. That said, I can't fault it as it reflects the time it was made.
I mean, to be fair, this IS W.A.S.P. Wasp; she's a heiress flibbertigibit. Like Paris Hilton with super powers. Imagine being paired with a reality television star as your partner. As in- you are a brilliant scientist, and she likes fashion, but you're considered equal. I'm not saying it's good writing, I'm just saying I understand.
@@VitaminCBable I mean, Hank chose to make the Wasp his partner and gave her powers. So I guess he could have just fired her if he didn't like her. But in reality it was the 60s and pretty much every male character at Marvel was written like that, calling women "dames" and the like.
@@kaleremmers5095 well we saw the story. She reminds him of someone, she's in trouble, they actually like each other. She's essentially flirting to make him jealous. It's all a bit, an act. And he's flippant because he's in denial ect. obviously he thinks they work well together in their origin. And she's already gungho enough to want to be involved
The fact that they made her basically Paris Hilton with super powers was a bit of sexism in itself. Making her obsessive with her clothes and appearance, and being flitty and talking about how hot all the guys were. Sue Storm and others were pretty much the same back then. The male superheroes were almost all scientists (even Don Blake an MD was shown to have the "Science skill" trope of knowing all the sciences) and the female superheroes were pretty much just tagging along with their boyfriends. Later writers saved the Wasp character by having her build a fashion empire, thus not throwing out the original characteristics, but turning them into something good.
I don't think any of this was like super awful I just think it's weird, but it's a completely different historical context. I mean everything was different, especially perspective on the world and how they viewed other people, especially women. So I never like to say it's sexist or something because it's hard to judge people based on a time you weren't in. There are obvious exceptions though like Stalin and stuff
I always preferred the Justice League to the Avengers in comics. The Justice League always felt more organized and that they were the best heroes (or the best at the time who could show up and fight bad guys regularly) whereas the Avengers were always fighting and arguing with a constantly shifting roster. It didn't help that the 60s "boy's club" writers made most of the male characters talk like chauvinists when women were around.
You should most definitely make a video about the transition of Thor knowing he’s Donald Blake and them being separarte people cuz personally I’m confused on the entire story behind Thor having an alter ego then suddenly not having one
Though the Avengers generally broke away from it, the vignette structure of the first story was probably editorial diktat, as Goodman was keen on aping the JLA. More importantly though, you Tantalizing Temptress you, how can you tease us hep cats and cool birds with just a taste of That Thinking Fans' Snapper Carr, Rick Jones? When oh when does Rick get the Sasha treatment? (If needed, my levels of debasement can be disturbing to plumb, but I'll start with "Please.")
Please make a "Be gone pigeons!" t-shirt! Also, your videos are a respite of joy on an internet so filled with news of a maddening and scary world, so thanks for that.
I just love listening to your humor! Thanks, I needed this review. I remember reading this at the time of it's release.......It made sense back then to an 11 year old....LOL!
that wasp costume in the thumbnail is one of my all time favorites feels like a healthy blend her costume from EMH and her black and yellow costume she wear in the 2000's
Looking at the panel on the right at 7:19, I'm wondering if that's a picture of the Mutant Brotherhood of Evil that Kirby either duplicated for this panel or is about to duplicate for that panel. This almost makes me want to do research.
About lead-lined tanks. One time I had a strange dream where the Savage Dragon had to keep Marvel Comics' Enchantress from getting involved in some fight or other - for her own safety as much as anything - so he put her in a locked room where every single material was made of plastic and other "unnatural" materials. Dragon's line of thinking was, he probably couldn't hold the Enchantress forever no matter what he did, but if he gave her access only to materials that didn't exist in the Viking Age, it would take her a while to figure out how to use them in magic. Even the only beverage he left her was diet soda.
@@harlannguyen4048 I dream in comics sometimes. Sometimes I dream entire comics, other times it's just a scene or a setup. Personally I think my subconscious got kind of clever with this one, that you could at least slow the Enchantress down by forcing her to deal with synthetic fibers and the like.
You actually looked like a superhero (or villainess) in this episode, Sasha. Great look. As for the topic, The JLA is about the individual members, The Avengers is about the team.
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I love that as soon as spiderman becomes an avenger he quits
In the original Young Avengers, however, he DIDN’T leave!
He just barely got any attention😭😭😭😭
Peter is a loser.
10:55 11:14 I love how nonchalant tony was about the team, from day one he was always like "yeah let's try this avenger thing, it might be fun for a week, if we get tired of it we can just disband when we have the chance"
It's the little detail that Hulk is playing a _sad_ robot clown that gets me. That and it ain't no big thing to juggle an elephant, seal and a lion.
He's got talent. A whole alternate universe, what if the Hulk had pursued his clown career
"Stop acting like a lovesick female"
Who hurt you, Henry? 💀
MANY THINGS!!!
Communists
@@hurlaky43 but Hank ..... you're in full red and ants are pretty communistic!
@@mikhaelgribkov4117 *Hank Pym:* Ants aren't communist. They famously have monarchies.
*John Walker:* ANYTHING THAT'S NOT CAPITALISM IS COMMUNISM.
(Joke courtesy of Waiting For The Trade on Tumblr. Excellent parodies, up there with Kerry Callen in my book.)
The writers.
Really puts Tony being mad at Cap in Endgame in a different context.
- I'm mad at you because you said we would face Thanos together and you weren't there!
- But you said we could fight separately.
- So I did. Never mind, then.
Well if an 8 foot tall super strong clown man looked at me and said "I'm a robot" I wouldn't question it. Seems like a decent android, none of my business to ask questions
Yeah, and I would not attempt to plug him in.
7:13 It's always fun to pick up on the scenes where the "Marvel method" gets a little broken. Kirby has Hulk hiding in a circus; green, big, huge and dressed in full clown makeup and it's up to Stan to "explain" it. The second meeting with the story art already outlined: "Jack, he's not disguised, it's just the Hulk in clown makeup. Fine, keep it in, it's a good image with the juggling.... I got it, he's pretending to be a robot the ringmaster just happened to find. I'm such a genius."
Let's be fair; Sometimes it's not always Stan Lee's fault.
We all know Hulk pretended to be a robot by saying "Beep boop" whenever the Carnival workers asked him anything.
We definitely need a video on Odin's parenting skills and how that relates to the whole Donald Blake/Thor situation.
Comic Book Odin has parenting skills? I thought the nannies did all the work.
Still holding out for the Rick Jones - Snapper Carr throwdown.
They did meet briefly in a JLA/Avengers team up a while back.
Can you imagine?! I just picture a big ol pissing contest between them to decide who has a better more important relationship with heroes... only to have Jimmy Olsen come in and throw his signal watch laden penis down on the table! lol 😜
The Avengers in publication: The greatest team that will ever be...
The Avengers for about 5 decades: Wanna hang? Wanna have room and board? Wanna stop being evil? So here's the place for you!
It took it's time to become Marvel's Justice League in both universe and publication wise, but readers ate up those early years.
(Gotta say Sasha, love the top and hair combo. This may sound negative, but it's not, you look like an early 2000's syndicated adventurer, like from Mutant X or that future girl from The Lost World lol)
For real, your outfit looks like it could be one of Janet Van Dyne’s creations & I am here for it
@@hurlaky43 I swear I saw it in a comic once.
I legitimately don’t know how to say this without feeling like I am crossing some line but Sasha looks absolutely stunning in that top! Seriously one of the most beautiful people on UA-cam that is also thoughtful and hilarious! Make sure your husband knows just how lucky he is!❤️
It does feel weird to lust after Sasha but DAMN !!!
She looks _foyn_ !!
I wouldn't say weird, to me it feels natural! Not only is she intellegent, funny, fun, gorgeous, sexy, & foyn; but she's pretty much the ideal woman...no disrespect!
Yeah, I agree
Dat shirt! Also, I love when Hulk was drawn like a giant, thick toddler.
My new favorite saying "begone pigeons" . I'm gonna use that everywhere
That shirt is very 2000's comics, Sasha!
Fashion game always on point: that's Sasha.
I was saddened in Avengers Age of Ultron that Quicksilver got ka-bonged and we didn't get "Cap's Kooky Quartet". ah well..
How did he pass as a robot? Probably just walked up and said: “I not Hulk, Hulk is Robot! See me juggle animals. Only robot do that!” Everyone at the circus: “…….yep….you are not the Hulk, please don’t squish us”
It's GOOD that you're juggling our very delicate and expensive exotic animals!
The fact that the Avengers were a hot mess from day one is what I always loved about them! ☺ Also, I would _love_ a deep dive into Donald Blake! It's something I've always meant to look into myself, but never got around to. And I suspect your take on it would be extremely entertaining!
Back in the day, I'd save my Avengers and FF comics to read at the same time. My reason was the bickering. The FF argued like a family, the Avengers argued like a project team with no clear leader.
Something I always find interesting about long-running comics universes, like at Marvel and DC, is how characters change in their depiction and portrayal over time. Like, I really like Janet Van Dyne/The Wasp, but sometimes these old, early stories just make me cringe. It really shows how we like to imagine that these things all came fully-formed from the Ideal Plane, when really they've always been works in progress. That can be kind-of reassuring for me, from a certain point of view!
Oh my god! I just realized Rick Jones only MCU related appearance was that Incredible Hulk tie-in game!
And he is interviewed in the Incredible Hulk.
@@TheUncomplicator he was?
@@mediatorraptor3349 Yes,he and Jim Wilson were the two college students taking to the news,if I’m not mistaken.
I am old enough to remember this! My first Avengers was actually #8 though. I started reading comics in 1964, and mostly DC at first. My Uncle H.R. had hundreds of comics from 1941 to when he quit in 1965, mostly DC, but some Timely and Independents.
Sasha, these soft glam looks are everything. I love that lip color in particular.
Wasp: "That Iron Man is so hideous".
(dates Tony Stark during at least two different points in Marvel history)
Iron Man is always down to seize whatever opportunity comes his way. Forming the Avengers, disbanding them.
I'm enjoying the video so far but I gotta take a moment to appreciate how good Sasha looks today. Like she always looks great but I really like that outfit.
10:45 I've heard of Iron having anti-magic properties, but Lead is a new one to me.
Yeah, are we talking Asgard or Daxam, amirite?
I assumed Loki was still radioactive & lead has anti-radiation properties
@@hurlaky43 Now he’s radioactive? That can’t be good.
ONCE AGAIN YOU ARE THE FASHION ICON OF COMIC UA-cam AND IM ABSOLUTELY HERE FOR IT!
Ngl, that top is something else entirely Sasha! The pattern reminds me of Tiger Tail ice cream.
I wonder if that number is actually stitched together, or if that’s a sports top under a matching collar & sleeve as it appears?
Hella wicked, in any event.
I didn't realize "hottie incoming" on the thumbnail was talking about Sasha, but also im not surprised.
The guys at Marvel just didn't have a clue how to handle female characters in the early 60s, did they? The Wasp named the team and wasn't even credited on the cover. And at what point did she change from the empty-headed borderline nymphomaniac of the early years, to the tough-as-nails alpha female that she was in "Under Siege"? Maybe the subject of a future video?
It was a very slow transition, that really didn't start until after the divorce ca. issue #217, roughly 50-60 issues before "Under Seige."
Chris Claremont (who is famous for bumping up the power and prominence of female characters such as turning Carol Danvers into Binary) wrote two issues of Marvel Team-Up in 1977 (59 and 60) wherein the Wasp receives a power upgrade from Hank Pym that made her an actual threat (she was pretty much just an annoyance before, if she was allowed to do anything). Then after her divorce from Hank Pym, Wasp took over as leader of the Avengers (in 1981/82 iirc) and became pretty badass, though her success as a leader is debated somewhat (She had to deal with a LOT of strong personalities as leader such as Hercules and Namor). In the 1990s she kinda returned to her more flighty self in West Coast Avengers (She also not so coincidentally reunited with Hank Pym, who was a member of that team) though she was still a force to be reckoned with. Her personality has flip flopped between those two characterizations ever since. I think it really depends on whose writing her, how much they like her, and how involved with Hank she is.
@@kaleremmers5095 To make matters worse, Wasp initially didn’t have ANY offensive weapons! She briefly jabbed bad guys with a PIN in her second appearance (Tales to Astonish #45)…but didn’t get her first “Wasp Sting” wrist weapon until a year later. For her first year, Janet was just an attractive, noncombatant SIDEKICK.
@@richardkonkle5079 Indeed! And then in Avengers comics, I don't think the writers understood how her Wasp's stings were supposed to work, despite them being clearly explained in Tales to Astonish. Iirc in one issue she uses the Wasp's Sting on Namor and the comic shows a panel of a wrist weapon with a bent needle sticking out of it smh
@@kaleremmers5095 Hank also gets similar treatment. His behaviour is very dependant on how much the writer likes him and he jumps back and forth from a competent scientist hero who had to reckon with his past or an emotionally unhinged man who's just as likely to cause terrible problems as he is to try and fix them. In some runs he's one of my favourite heros and sometimes it feels like the writers are short on ideas and went, "Well maybe Hank's crazy again."
Someone at the circus could have been in on the Hulk's deception - possibly the owner. Hulk could have come to them and made a deal be a star attraction and get the audiences in as a quid pro quo for hiding him. His collaborator helped disguise him and just told the rest of the circus employees that they'd obtained a robot that would really pack in the crowds.
Oh 1960’s “Ant-Man dressing down the Wasp” dialogue, never change lol
Also cool wear-wolf who practices magic look Sasha :)
Your outfit is everything 😍
i personally think that the hulk just being a good boy and misunderstood is funny but interesting
The story goes that Bill Everett was very late completing the art for a new character that Stan had thought up, Daredevil. To fill this hole in the production schedule, Stan and Jack come up with The Avengers, using characters they have already introduced in the anthology titles and The Hulk whose own title had ended earlier. This need to quickly come up with a replacement title could account for the rocky story line and some plot holes in this first issue.
Jeeeeeeezus, Sasha!
Those sleeves are so 11998.
Highlight of my Saturday.
Holy Shit!!
(Shia LaBeouf)
Maybe they should have disbanded while... You know the rest.
YES!!! our Casually Comics queen what a look today !!!
I don't know what she's wearing but both me and Hallie Berrys catwoman approve 👍
Sasha delivers once again. I really like that you brought up that the Justice league and the avengers are different
The early drawings of the Hulk always makes me laugh, lol.
I'm not convinced that this is the one that shows all the Avengers at once. That honor goes to a What If? article that was presented as just a one- or two-page spread, asking "What If everyone who was ever in the Avengers was in the team at one time?", illustrated with a page just packed full of major and minor characters all responding to "Avengers Assemble!" at the same time.
One of the legends of how the Avengers were created was that Daredevil was taking forever to get off the ground (Something about Bill Everett having drinking problems), and so had to whip out something off the fly, and a "Justice League, but not really" was the best they could think of on short notice. And now it is the biggest pop culture thing of that past ten years. Because Daredevil needed more lead time.
Gosh, I hope they work "Begone pigeons!" into Loki season 2. Tom Hiddleston needs to say that line.
I got an ad before the video for "Superheroes", which appears to be a new comic book-themed cocktail bar (!) in London.
That outfit reveals what a lucky husband you have!
When I was a kid, I had a mind to save up the $400 Overstreet said Avengers #1 was in Good. I didn't end up doing this nor know where to buy one. I just assumed my local comic shop had one behind the counter where they kept the valuable stuff that they let you go through only under supervision, which back then didn't take that much, I bought my Man-Thing #1 and Amazing Spider-Man #102 from those behind the counter bins for $6 apiece, which was a lot for a comic back in the '80s.
When I read the Marvel Masterworks volume for free from the public library, I thought I really dodged a bullet by leaving it to wealthy collectors. It was corny and didn't really get good until Roy Thomas started on it with things like Henry Pym not being able to return to normal size or die of shock.
I haven't read a lot of Avengers books (as I was more of an X-men fan) but, I'm currently going back and reading the whole Avengers Vol.1 series, to get a feel for the characters and see how the team worked in the early days! I must say the stories are very entertaining! I like loved the how Cap hates Baron Zemo and how quickly he fly into rages when he sees Baron! My favorite Avengers moment has to be from Avengers 10 when Thor says the Iconic phrase "Avengers Assemble"!!!. It still gives me goosebumps! Also I love first appearance and origins for characters and teams! I've been reading a lot of them lately! Just yesterday I read the First Appearance of the Legion of Super-Heroes!
11:25 oh the amount of losses they would suffer
Love the Avengers. The original lineup plus Cap is always the best. Loved your look in the vid. Super hot!
11:27 Thanos isn't the only one who smiled at this- heck, I actually LOL. Another great video Sasha- also, to the best of my knowledge the Hulk never rejoined the Avengers (at least in the first volume of the book). I think that makes him the only founding member who never did. As far as Hulk passing as a robot, I think he got another member of the Teen Brigade to claim to be the one controlling him via their short wave radio set up- sounds logical in an early '60's way of thinking.
I don't know about you but I can totally see Robert Downey Jr selling that 'We will fight together. Or separately if needs be' line and making it work.
And now you can too.
Yes. Make that video about Donald Blake. We must know more!
Dang, you amaze me, you know more about classic comics than anyone and you look amazing in that outfit, bet one yet.
M FAVORITE AVENGERS MOMENT: Scott Lang has recently become the new Ant-Man, replacing Hank Pym who has become Yellow jacket. But no one but Scott and Hank are aware that Hank has passed on the Ant-Man identity to a new guy. So when Ant-Man AND Yellow jacket show up together, The Beast says, "ANT-MAN AND YELLOW JACKET IN THE SAME PLACE AND AT THE SAME TIME?? THAT'S FREAKY!!"
Thank you for another informative, fun video. Watching your channel always bring back my love of comics. I would love to see you do a video about the origin/timeline of Squadron Sinister
Still doesn't beat when they blow up Zemo by giving him a package of solvent that would remove his mask from his face, and then put explosives instead and blow him up. Like wow damn dude.
Zemo is a Nazi dick who at the time had killed Bucky (pre Winter Soldier retcon) sooooo maybe he deserved it? lol
@@kaleremmers5095 Its just funny in the issue, cause if you didn't know that context, you'd just think he is a guy trying to remove a mask from his face, but yes still a Nazi
@@Ashguy733 True. What I find most amusing is that they had to ask Paste Pot Pete of all people for help
@@kaleremmers5095 well, glue is kinda his thing, might as well XD
"Equate the two" not "Equivocate the two" Equivocate means using words that are ambiguous, usually for the purpose of deception.
A rare Sasha flub! She mentioned ages ago that goofs in earlier videos were due to being tired, so I'll give her the benefit of the doubt. 😉
Odin: Loki, thou art banished to the Isle of Silence!
Loki: Talkie, talkie, talkie, talkie……
One of the reasons the Teen Brigade panel seems haunting, is that one of the members resembles a young Jack Kirby. What was odd to me was how Loki’s eyes appeared in the sky. They’re EVERYWHERE!!!
Those Watches seem fun, but the one I’m holding out for is the Dr. Manhattan symbol. Not only would it tell time now, the future, or several flashbacks (as needed), but it would be it’s own pun!!!
No, no, just take a Minutemen to think about it. It’ll come to you. Sorry, can’t help. I’m writing comments 12 minutes ago…
Meanwhile, I recommend comparing this story with its remake Avengers, the Origin from 2012. More modern. Slightly more elaborate. Even boasts a sequel.
And no one lost Eyebrow control….
Early Wasp hurts, but the way Hank treats her makes me want to throw up
Wasp going after Thor? Loki only has eyes for Thor!
Loki with his glorious purpose
Yea, iron is a common weakness to magical beings, mostly fae.
If you visit a nothern country and see an iron door out in the open, it's believed that if you go through it you'll get to the magical realm. But if you get hunted and have to get to safety, you have to walk through the door again and close it and the iron will stop magical creatures from getting through..!
For those who don't know. Fae means, in the most general terms, the Fairy Folk. Horseshoes at front doors* is a common example of iron as a ward, charm, or talisman of protection against harmful magic/magical beings.
In olden times folks would actually lay the sick upon the anvils for the blacksmiths to pantomime hammering out the illness, magically!
* horseshoes (and iron nails) were also kept near baby cribs.
That's safe 😰
It's funny that Jan and Tony went out for a little while a couple of decades later.
To be fair, the gold suit was a Lamborghini truck; the red/gold suit was a Lambo sports car.
2:18 Mjölnir looks a little puny in those days.
Hulk able to make complete sentences. LMAO
After I watched the first Avengers movie in 2012(and the animated Ultimate Avengers movie, both based on the same source material, the Ultimates), I wanted to know how they came together in the comics and when I read this, I was like, "Wut?" It wasn't quite what I expected, it wasn't a big alien invasion led by Loki that brings them together but basically a sibling quarrel that Iron Man, Hulk, Ant-Man, and Wasp got roped in. That said, I can't fault it as it reflects the time it was made.
I am pretty sure Tony Stark wanted to disband The Avengers once the Thor parties started in Tony's house.
Love your top ! Also awesome video
Before Doc Samson, Bruce Banner tried Robotic Clown Therapy (RCT)
It was all the rage in the late 50's-early 60's.
wasp needs her time in the sun
I forgot how sexist ant man was and it's so uncomfortable haha
I mean, to be fair, this IS W.A.S.P. Wasp; she's a heiress flibbertigibit. Like Paris Hilton with super powers.
Imagine being paired with a reality television star as your partner. As in- you are a brilliant scientist, and she likes fashion, but you're considered equal.
I'm not saying it's good writing, I'm just saying I understand.
@@VitaminCBable I mean, Hank chose to make the Wasp his partner and gave her powers. So I guess he could have just fired her if he didn't like her. But in reality it was the 60s and pretty much every male character at Marvel was written like that, calling women "dames" and the like.
@@kaleremmers5095 well we saw the story. She reminds him of someone, she's in trouble, they actually like each other.
She's essentially flirting to make him jealous.
It's all a bit, an act.
And he's flippant because he's in denial ect.
obviously he thinks they work well together in their origin. And she's already gungho enough to want to be involved
The fact that they made her basically Paris Hilton with super powers was a bit of sexism in itself. Making her obsessive with her clothes and appearance, and being flitty and talking about how hot all the guys were. Sue Storm and others were pretty much the same back then. The male superheroes were almost all scientists (even Don Blake an MD was shown to have the "Science skill" trope of knowing all the sciences) and the female superheroes were pretty much just tagging along with their boyfriends. Later writers saved the Wasp character by having her build a fashion empire, thus not throwing out the original characteristics, but turning them into something good.
I don't think any of this was like super awful I just think it's weird, but it's a completely different historical context. I mean everything was different, especially perspective on the world and how they viewed other people, especially women. So I never like to say it's sexist or something because it's hard to judge people based on a time you weren't in. There are obvious exceptions though like Stalin and stuff
Wow, you look fantastic today!
11:00 this is why i decided to watch the video
I loved this! Just loved it.
Your off-hand comment about Blake's pipe blending into his made me laugh out loud. Caught me by surprise.
"That's right, I said what I said." Sasha, you rule.
2:36 "Metal Master" ???? Does he have an air guitar made of Uru metal?
I always preferred the Justice League to the Avengers in comics. The Justice League always felt more organized and that they were the best heroes (or the best at the time who could show up and fight bad guys regularly) whereas the Avengers were always fighting and arguing with a constantly shifting roster. It didn't help that the 60s "boy's club" writers made most of the male characters talk like chauvinists when women were around.
There's a great podcast called The Avenging Hour that examines each issue, starting with the original #1 from 1962.
...release the one hour video of RuffaloHulk doing the robot!
What!? That big green clown wiped off his make up and there's a big green guy underneath!?
Also, you look amazing!
Let's disband when we have a chance
We'll fight together, or separately if needed 😂 thats one heck of a line Tony.
You should most definitely make a video about the transition of Thor knowing he’s Donald Blake and them being separarte people cuz personally I’m confused on the entire story behind Thor having an alter ego then suddenly not having one
If only the Hulk had kept using that clown makeup as a permanent alter ego/disguise, ala Clark Kent and his glasses.
Off Topic but @2:10: Batman and Superman holding hands always makes me 😃
I do not envy the circus worker trying to put batteries in that Hulk Robot!
Though the Avengers generally broke away from it, the vignette structure of the first story was probably editorial diktat, as Goodman was keen on aping the JLA.
More importantly though, you Tantalizing Temptress you, how can you tease us hep cats and cool birds with just a taste of That Thinking Fans' Snapper Carr, Rick Jones? When oh when does Rick get the Sasha treatment? (If needed, my levels of debasement can be disturbing to plumb, but I'll start with "Please.")
Please make a "Be gone pigeons!" t-shirt! Also, your videos are a respite of joy on an internet so filled with news of a maddening and scary world, so thanks for that.
I just love listening to your humor! Thanks, I needed this review. I remember reading this at the time of it's release.......It made sense back then to an 11 year old....LOL!
Its sad that Wasps name isn't on the cover when she is the one who literally names the team
that wasp costume in the thumbnail is one of my all time favorites feels like a healthy blend her costume from EMH and her black and yellow costume she wear in the 2000's
Looking at the panel on the right at 7:19, I'm wondering if that's a picture of the Mutant Brotherhood of Evil that Kirby either duplicated for this panel or is about to duplicate for that panel. This almost makes me want to do research.
"We'll fight together...or seperately if need be!" Mystery Men before Mystery Men there, genius.
About lead-lined tanks. One time I had a strange dream where the Savage Dragon had to keep Marvel Comics' Enchantress from getting involved in some fight or other - for her own safety as much as anything - so he put her in a locked room where every single material was made of plastic and other "unnatural" materials. Dragon's line of thinking was, he probably couldn't hold the Enchantress forever no matter what he did, but if he gave her access only to materials that didn't exist in the Viking Age, it would take her a while to figure out how to use them in magic. Even the only beverage he left her was diet soda.
That's... a strange dream alright.
@@harlannguyen4048 I dream in comics sometimes. Sometimes I dream entire comics, other times it's just a scene or a setup. Personally I think my subconscious got kind of clever with this one, that you could at least slow the Enchantress down by forcing her to deal with synthetic fibers and the like.
“In fact, why don’t we disband while we have the chance?” 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I NEEDED IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Awesome vid Sasha!!
I need a Sasha in my life.
you can tell hulk's a good guy there's no "urk becoming banner not now!!! moment
You actually looked like a superhero (or villainess) in this episode, Sasha. Great look.
As for the topic, The JLA is about the individual members, The Avengers is about the team.