The foreshadowing where Jed was the king during the LARP and twist he was the villain - and then twist he was the villain in the actual game….I thought that was amazing.
No I get how they didn't believe her because it is true that sometimes people need an answer so bad that they'll do anything to find that answer even if it's completely fabricated. Like sometimes people even hurt themselves for these fictional answers In this situation it was a little bit out-of-place but I could see how this scenario could happen
First ending be like: You killed my father, you killed my brother, then you shot me in the head and threw me into a mine 10+ meters deep. But I forgive you.
I forgave him to break him more at the moment. Because Jed hated himself deep down, me forgiving him conflicts with that feeling. Being hated would feel natural to Jed and fit his idea of self. But by forgiving him I show that I am better and stronger than he could ever be.
I forgave him since, aside from attempting to murdering me the night before, or the cover up (which he basically have to make a tough choice nonetheless despite wanting to save the stuck miners including Chen's dad), he was a pretty cool bloke to Alex and Gabe. And I feel like he tried to make up for his past by being Haven's dad. And yeah, forgiving him would hit more like a truck to him as he already hates himself any way. But him shooting Alex in the mines was really tempting to hate him, but I kinda felt Alex's feel bad and pitied him as she also kinda hates herself, and in forgiving him, also kinda forgives herself.
That ending where Alex is about to get in the bus but turns around and there’s literally NO ONE broke me. All she ever wanted was to belong, have a home and feel loved, and to see no one came to say goodbye to her? It was like her worst fears became true :(
@@pheonixpidgey5294 At least they could say good bye when she leaves. But I would guess that ending is if you didn't help anyone and didn't romance them, which still makes a bit sad but on the first part fair.
everyone's a bit hard on ryan for potentially not backing alex during the council meeting while steph will believe her, the difference is, jed is ryan's FATHER. steph has no real stakes and for ryan it's incredibly emotionally painful and confusing. he's human. i'm sure had it been steph's parent (and town hero), she would've hesitated as well.
@@Thisisnotapipe_ uhhh someone else in the comments said if you take charlottes anger and you later freak out around steph and Ryan it makes him less likely to back you at the meeting
@@jemcarstairstoe Actually, as someone confirmed my suspicions in another comment, him believing Alex is actually a really high hurdle. You have to have everyone else on your side for him to believe you, not even one person expressing doubt/disbelief towards Alex. As for how to pull that off: Help Eleanor, don't snitch to Riley about her, don't take Charlotte's anger and forgive her(?), dance with Duckie in Episode 4 in the black lantern before you and Steph play on stage, and take Pike's fear in Episode 4.
When I played I thought he was going to betray Alex when they were in The Black Lantern and he started asking more and more about what she knew about Typhon. But then he said "I can show you what they're hiding" and then I thought "Oh, okay he's not bad he's going to show us" and then I stopped suspecting him since he was helping. And then he pulled a gun lol.
I honestly felt like it was unnecessary for reasons you can read over in the this reply section. Like seriously, leaving out her dad wouldn't make the shock of the discovery and story any different. The miners by themselves was enough...
Catch up with the times, its 2021. Women have jobs, non heterosexuals can date and marry, and ethical non monogamy is becoming increasingly mainstream. As long as everyone involved is informed and consenting to the situation, it is perfectly acceptable to be romantically involved with multiple people. And from Ryan and Steph's personalities, I don't think either of them would have a problem with it as long as they were all aware they were involved.
@croma 136 It's not cheating if all parties are okay with it. It's not frequent, but there are people who relationships like that. It's called a throuple.
@@Sumguyinavan_ i think they would have a problem with it, lets be honest how many poly couples are actually there ? Not everything need to be... Ya know, at least we have the option to date a girl or boy.. Haveing a poly relationship just feels awkward rly, dosent matter the year, but eh, not my problem
I wanted so badly to see Alex and Steph perform together, finish a tour around the US and then decide to go back home to Haven Springs for a break. Best of both worlds.
@@tanndlin1184 frrrr I was sitting there waiting for them to play together or show their home in Berlin or whatever the other places were. Maybe show a quick date scene but all we got was one short scene. Made me really upset tbh
I loved the part where Gabe tells Alex what will happen if she stays in Haven. Kinda touched my heart and shed a couple of tears during those scenes...
Absolutely! I felt the same... It's kinda beautiful and bittersweet. But leaves you with a more positive feeling than for example Lis 1 or 2. I just loved this scene and only came to this video to rewatch it.
Duckie Jason pike and steph had my back Eleanor Ryan and Charlotte didn’t 😂 after all I done for em tryna do right by everybody felt like a slap in the face. This game overall was incredible they did their thing with this one I’m going to play through it again a couple more times and steph was incredible in this game.
Make sure you do all character side mission and most importantly don't always mess with people's emotions especially ethans mom and also alter pikes emotions....just be helpful and nice
While Jed being the antagonist was predictable for me since I suspected him from the beginning, I was not expecting the mine scandal to connect with Alex’s family, I was crying hard at that scene
Personally I don't understand the mine scandal involving her dad. Alex says 11 years ago, radio says 12 years ago right after. I'm pretty sure that Alex is 21 and her dad left when she was 11 or 12 so none of it adds up timeline wise.
@@HarlequinNova Well if her dad went straight to Haven and got a job like immediately at the mines and the collapse happened soon after that then (getting into nitty gritty stuff with Alex’s exact age and the radio rounding the number up) there would have been a very small window of opportunity for it to work. Sad though, the dad left his children, got a job and within a month or two died in the mines. Completely get where you’re coming from though, the time didn’t match up when I first heard it either.
@@HarlequinNova I think the mine scandal with her dad was a nice touch. I think it shows that he didn't leave because he didn't want them but to try and find a better job and have money to take care of them. Also when it shows all the sent back letters from Alex its because the whole time he was really dead and he never got a chance to read them. Maybe he would have written back. But that's just my take.
The shots of the ending where Alex stays in Haven and isn't dating Steph OR Ryan are possibly one of the saddest things I've ever seen. It feels SO empty. She's got this half smile on her face the whole time but she's basically alone in a town that has some of the worst memories in her life, and some of best memories that are history now. Owning a record store her friend used to own. (A friend she surely misses a lot) Living where her brother used to live. Being near Ryan who she may or may not even be friends with. Apparently not being much of friends with Charlotte. Other than Ethan, we hardly see ANYONE we know by name. That's like... possibly my worst nightmare. It just feels so gut wrenchingly lonely. Being right in the middle of what was so full of life and relationships, but now is devoid of all of that. Maybe I'm in the minority here, though. It was just really hard to watch that, even though it wasn't the ending I got.
I'm disappointed that there isn't an ending where they like, stay friends? Steph leaves but it's after telling Alex she's going to do so, and they keep in touch with postcards and text. (Or maybe Alex helps manage her social media page.) You become close friends with Ryan, but it's not romantic. You go hiking and biking together sometime. He becomes an official park ranger protecting the wildlife and mountains. Ducky buys the bar as a personal venture (and because the place has meant a lot to him.) He hires Mac to help run it. It chills Mac out and he actually becomes pretty reliable. When Eleanor's condition worsens, Riley is forced to close the flower shop. Her and Mac make amends and she moves into what was your place. Riley works at a server at night and does day school on her laptop. (maybe they have a baby?) Charlotte contacts an attorney and wins a case against Typhon for child endangerment. She moves out of Haven Springs and to a suburb outside Denver to make a better life for Ethan. There's a growing art scene for herself and Ethan meets guys at a local game store that think a kid making comics is really cool. Where Alex ends up depends on how you answered her question earlier about what she wanted to do. If you answered 'make music' you get the existing game ending, if you answered 'helping people' the game ends with you back in the therapist office with a voice asking questions, but this time as we zoom out, we see that Alex is now the therapist saying she understands what it's like to an embarrassed and uncomfortable youth.
@@chriserony I like pretty much all of this a lot. Great ideas. Tbh, I think the game designers wanted a slightly ambiguous or not fully fleshed out ending. It did make for a very bittersweet, visceral and real feeling ending. It felt natural. It wasn't some fantasy where everyone is perfectly happy. We don't know what happens to all of them, but we know where Alex goes next. Just like we would if we were her. It's kinda sad, but that's how life is sometimes, even in the good moments. I think that's what they were going for. It definitely had a very triumphant, but lonely feeling to it. Even when you did end with a partner. However, I have to say, I'd lean towards something closer to what you have. Maybe somewhere in between what we got and that perfect story book ending you've described. I would like to know what happens to the other characters. That they're ok, and that they stay part of Alex's life. It's sad to think she just makes all those relationships and up and leaves to never speak to any of them again, which is kinda the picture the end paints. Great ideas, though, again.
For those that are wondering: “Why didn’t they back up alex”. Here’s how to convince everyone. SPOILERS FOR ALL OF THE CHOICES (This was mainly from the Gamerant site of the choices.) Charlotte: Convince her to not sign the affidavit sent by Typhon corporation. Do not take her anger. (If you had taken her anger) You may notice that she has no “emotions” for the rest of the game. Making her not back up Alex, this also causes to make you rage at Steph and Ryan later, which makes Ryan less likely to help you at the end. Eleanor: You need to tell the poor old lady of Gabes death, as she wouldn’t show up for the lantern sign off making Riley realise she’s got memory loss. You also have to not tell Riley of Eleanors disease throughout the game as this would be a betrayal towards Eleanor’s wish for Riley’s Dreams Pike: Well this would be to take Pike’s fear of Typhon and to not sign the document, giving him the bravery to face Diane and Jed. Reginald McAllister III (Duckie): To convince duckie to believe your claims, you would have to dance with him during the Festival, as he mourns his dead wife in the black Lantern
I think that is not entirely true, I convinced Charlotte to sign the agreement and in the end she supported me and told Diane that she would not sign the contract :D
What LiS-Fans want: - Saving Chloe and the bay - A happyend for Rachel - A free and happy pack of wolves - Dating Steph and Ryan, going on adventure and coming back home.
I just finished listc today and I literally cannot stop thinking about how bad I want this as I try for a 'perfect' walkthrough. 😭 Gabe's fine. He'll walk it off.
That game really tricked me. I thought Charlotte would kill herself if I didn't take her anger away and after I messed her up I thought I should never do anything like that again because she was so messed up. So I didn't take the fear of Pike, which was wrong as well :(. And I was worried about Eleanor so I told Righley the truth. Only Duckie and Steph backed me but I still stayed because I thought the people would still be around me after the truth came out. Seems wrong now as well. Kinda sad actually.
Nah I knew Charlotte would work it out. There were major differences between Charlotte and Kate's feelings so that's why I didn't think Charlotte would kill herself. Kate was depressed, and I know Charlotte was also depressed but she was fuming mad lol. And I felt like Alex taking her anger would not be fair to Alex either. I took Pike's fear because I just wanted him to stop being a pansy. His whinning was getting on my nerves. In my game play, everyone took Alex's side.
that is exactly what I did as well! I was so frustrated when I figured out that we should have done the opposite with Charlotte and Pike :'O I mean, Charlotte even said the anger was enough to hate her own son. How should we knowwwww!!! I got Eleanor on my side fortunately, but the whole time I kept thinking "Hmmm maybe I should have told Riley to stay instead??? damn" If the game makes you worried sick with each decision you know it's good hahahah
At this point I am questioning the emotional intelligence of this comment section. Jed is Ryan's father. His doubts don't make him a bad character. I even think that the game would have messed up big time, if they made Ryan believe her as if this was nothing. Honestly, put yourself in Ryan's shoes and think about how you would feel, if someone called your parent a murderer? The person that is called "the heart of the town" and that took care of you for all your life. I personally would think twice and most likely wouldn't believe the other person as well.
Yeah, I also like how if he does believe you his first instinct is to try and get Jed to confess so that he stops making it worse for himself (and still shows compassion and love for him), it seems way more realistic for a father son relationship
100% agree. im trying not to be biased bc i like ryan but it's just rational. he's jed's son, and this whole game is about emotions. even when ryan believes alex, its not like he full-on accuses his father of murder.
To this day, Life is strange 2 is the only game in the Lis franchise where your choices throughout the game actually matter and affect the ending. But nobody talks about that.
True, yet for me it was the least enjoyable. Most life is Strange games should be about the choices during your journey not "how many endings do we have". 90% of games in general can't do more than 3-4 true well balanced endings. I prefer influencing/changing characters during the game than having 10 endings.
@@Ssecave but that’s literally the point of a choice based game. What’s the point of making all of these decisions in a game (where your choices are supposed to matter) if it ends the same way? They’re supposed to be about making decisions that affect how your journey will comes to a close. Which is why games like Detroit: Become Human and Until Dawn are so highly praised. Everything you do determines the outcome of the story. And Lis 2 does just that. Whereas Lis 1 and BTS fails to do so.
@@poett8875 because it doesn't have to be about the destination, it can just be about the journey. I cared being able to choose what Alex was wearing for example, even though it had zero impact. It was still enjoyable.
The biggest problem I had with the endings were that they weren't very conclusive. If you stay in Haven, they don't even show Alex interacting with all the friends she made (aside from a few like Ethan). Also why isn't there an ending where Steph, Ryan, and Alex are all together as a really cool group of 3 friends? If you choose a romance option, one either leaves on the bus or just disappears completely even though he is still present in Haven. The game suffers so much from runtime, the game gets really good in episodes 2, 3, 4. But by the time you've started to really enjoy the game and attach yourselves to Haven's residents, the game ends with a pretty bad and inconclusive ending. Still, the game was pretty good and had its moments.
Ryan wants to stay in Haven. Steph wants adventure. The only factor which can change their base desire is Alex. The real problem with the Haven endings include that people like Dickie or Rick are not included but also that the endings lack a personal connection to Alex. Gabe essentially narrates that ending and if you choose it then Alex walks off happily to it without any additional context. One could argue that the entirety of chapter 5 is the ending, and that is actually correct. As a whole it is well executed, but the very end falls a little flat.
Agreed. Was pretty disappointed there wasn’t much closure to the Haven endings. And yes the run time scarifies a lot and makes the ending feel rushed. You hit the nail on the head with that last statement. Finished each episode usually in one sitting but with the other games I’d usually have to split the episodes up.
When the room went dark and Alex started talking to Jed, that was so eerie. I don't know why so many people complained about this game. I really love all the LiS games, but this one was absolutely incredible.
I just finished it. Personally Life is Strange 1 and True Colors are the best for me. Then Before the Storm and finally LiS 2 which is... too much of a political speech and that ruined it.
Before she got shot and fell it gives me a lot of feel when Chloe and Max went to the Junkyard just to find Mark Jefferson 😂 like I knew this was going to happen but why?! He was so nice! I now see why there's true colors at the end of this too lol
yeah I new it too, like when I saw Alex going near the ledge I mentally said " and now is the time for Jed to push us in the mine, after all here is the perfect place to kill someone and no one will ever know"(look what happen, I swear my brain is spoiling me XD) then I heard the gun click and instantly got Jefferson vibes... Honestly this games are gaving me trust issues with people XD
Actually the LARP play did gave us a hint who is the bad guy. I mean after Alex and Ethan brought 3 magic rock, the king played by Jed turned out to be bad, just like the way he reveals himself. Also after the LARP, Alex commented that she has never known that Jed can play the bad guy that good.
Next game has to break the norm of having the nice trustworthy guy end up as the villain, granted Before the Storm made Rachel's dad go back and forth from perceived womanizer to sorrowful father to dirty dealing douchebag.
this game felt really small but really focused.. which is pretty rare. it was a small game.. but its nice there is finally a happy ending.. in a time of apathy, we need to learn to be empathetic. and ryan is cute asf so i forgive him lol. and for those that like steph, shes great too lol
@Roniixx No, this game literally ends with the protagonist succeeding and not sacrificing anything. The other games end with character deaths or characters making bad choices
@Roniixx Which is preventable and nothing much when compared to either letting a best friend or your whole town die (first game) or ending up seperated from your brother, getting killed, going to prison or not letting your brother get a proper childhood/life (second game). This game ends with the protagonist having a happy life with the posibillity of no important characters getting hurt
@@joshuasandoval455 exactly, I knew she was mad and grieving but that's not a free bitch pass? You blamed your own CHILD and everyone else around you?! I took her anger away and I'm happy and mad that I did because I don't think she needs to be mad at people around her if they didn't really play a part in Gabe's death.
I'm disappointed that this game has only 2 major endings. Although Life is Strange 2 got so much hate for some reason, it has the best choices & consequences mechanism, & you had to choose everything carefully. LIS2 beats the other installments in this regard
Well I prefer to enjoy a awesome journey and have a good ending than have a boring journey with so many endings which does not matter I'll only see 1 ending anyway the choices isn't about endings in true color it is about how it affects the other ones just like LiS 1 an how they feel about you
@@samuelsouza7670 LIS2 didn't have a boring journey imo and the ending definitely matter bc they are drastically different based on what our choices are. In LIS1 choices don't really matter bc in the end we can choose our own ending, just like in True Colors, but LIS1 endings feels more impactful than True Colors. Despite all that, I really enjoyed the journey we went through in True Colors and had a lot of fun playing it
They should have an ending in which if you don't manage to get anyone to side with you, your accusations get buried, Typhoon keeps thriving and mining even more in Haven , Jed gets to continue his life as it was and Alex never gets her justice. its a reeealy sad ending but i think it would work. Deck nine would be like "thats what you get for messing it up with everyone and not doing the side missions" kind of like in Mass Effect 2 in the suicide mission where all your companions can die because you didn't meet the requirements
I got Steph, Duckie, Pike, and Eleanor to back me up. I gotta say, I expected Ryan not to back me up considering Jed is his father, but Charlotte not backing me up felt like a punch in the gut. I did not see it coming.
@@arachniteer I took the risk and went with Steph to Salem. Ghost gabe's last speech on the roof convinced me to leave. I am pretty happy with my ending.
@@Crylhound same. I decided to leave because since alex came into heaven all she had happen to her were tragedies, going far as possible is what I'd do personally.
Jed attempting to kill Alex was so predictable. The moment he said he'll show her the secret i was like "why not just tell about it?" and when i saw it's dark outside when they left i was sure he's gonna do something bad
I actually believed that he might do good though to be honest. I hated Diane so much but Jed felt like a father figure. A part of me felt a little suspicious but I thought nah but that gunshot.... I just can't believe how selfish that guy could've been. And the fact that Alex's father was in the mine working under Jed's management, I never saw it coming. If anything I expected to find Gabe alive in the Mine Until Dawn style but I just was never expecting the revelation that came.
@@diamondruby7257 i didn't even watch the trailer honestly, just the way he suddenly said that he knows what Typhon is hiding... And instead of telling Alex, wanted to show her... It was VERY suspicious
The scene where Alex uses the last match to light the lamp is so much more meaningful if you choose to not tell gabe about your powers because he tells you the story about the match
@@lukesoddlife is the last match he got from the reformatory, he went through hell to get it, when he got out from there he used it pretty fast, probable doing bad stuff, but he could never use the last one, cuz he didn't want to go back there and because he felt that he could need it
Not true, you find that match regardless... Because it ends up being in the locked chest in your room when you have to go get the Bard Hat. Alex automatically gets it.
Life is Strange is definitely one of the best game franchises ever! The feeling of playing is always so impactful and emotional that you really feel like you are the character.
Was expecting everyone to turn on me since I secretly like being distrusted and proven right, so having everyone believe me except Duckie was a huge surprise 😂
@@MiMi-tx4hq I think Ryan only believes you before Jed's confession if you convinced everyone else. I got only Eleanor and Duckie to believe me. Steph will always side with you. Charlotte has 2 keys, she'll believe you if you don't take her anger, but she can't help you if you made her take Typhon's money. You must take Pike's fear to get him on your side. Dance with Duckie before meeting Steph/Ryan on the roof during the fest, and keep Eleanor's secret from Riley throughout the game to earn her trust. Because I chose to romance Steph, I didn't see the forgive Ryan choice.
@@jecrex8349 Are you sure about Charlotte? I told her not to take the money from Typhon, and got the choice of her believing me but not being able to help. Maybe it’s the opposite somehow?
@@cherokee7896 same. I didn't take her anger and i didn't tell her to take the money.. she tried to help at the end, but she couldn't :/ At least i had Steph and Duckie on my side. Riley found out about Eleanors Alzheimer by herself when Eleanor didn't show up to Gabes funeral, because i didn't told her about Gabes death. And Pike was such a coward.. to scared to stand up for the truth :/
I'm glad they gave us the option to romance, both Steph and Ryan are a bit dorky and super nerdy but they are good people. Personally I felt Steph is way cooler than Ryan
i thought both are cool, but steph imo fits alex better. i saw a lets play where alex dated ryan and they we're awkwardly talking about going hiking haha
I (sadly) chose Ryan. Big mistake after he didn't back me up -___- . Even Gabe told Alex, that Steph would leave at some point. So the best decision for me ist to be with Steph and stay in Heaven. She would then be with Alex together and Ryan would still be their friend --> all 3 stay together.
I definitely like Steph better, because she kept her promise no matter what you to do her in the game, and she has Alex's back. I understand Jed is Ryan's father but after everything, it's still a bit insane, Like Steph said, Alex almost died. That much was clear by her appearance. I just think that Steph was more loyal for that, even if that wasn't her dad. Though I like Ryan as a character, I don't like him for Alex
really enjoyed the steph endings, loved how she'd back you up no matter what. i picked the leave with steph ending though, while the visions in the staying option was nice, it feels kinda sad to see them just stay there and give up on their dreams, considering how steph wanted to leave, and alex also has huge potentials for her music career, i feel like having new adventures and meeting new people with steph would be nicer.
about the game overall, it definitely started strong and i really enjoyed all of the chapters, but the fifth chapter was a bit underwhelming, even though the start where they uncovered alex's backstory was really touching, i was hoping for some bigger secrets and shit to happen in the mines instead of alex just finding a way out off scene and heading straight to the bar, also the fact that only steph and ryan cared about how she's literally bleeding from getting shot and falling to the mines.
I did steph's route too! I chose to stay in haven though because I thought that they'd had all their whole lives to leave and start another adventure. Felt like they both deserved to chill a lil lmao
I feel like the ends were open ended for that reason though. Like staying in Haven doesn’t mean the opportunity of travel is completely closed off and the opportunity of travel doesn’t mean they can’t come back every once and a while. The game isn’t tied in a neat now because life goes on beyond what the player gets to interact with. The story is over for us but just beginning for Alex.
Meh the endings majorly focus on love interests and if everyone backs you up or not but all leads on the same final scene. There should be an ending where 1. Alex didn't get her justice and Typhon wins the battle. 2. Alex gets her justice, but becomes emotionless due to everything she's been through. AND many more
Agreed. The whole game being a conspiracy/mystery doesn’t make sense when no matter how well you investigate it and successfully convince people - none of it matters because Alex uses some deus ex Machina power to mind control Jed into confessing even if you’ve made all the wrong choices. Typhon can’t win, so much for their power and reach.
Exactly! I don't hate Alex or anything, but giving her the ol' good happy ending no matter what is such a setback. And saying "Ohh but Alex deserved a happy ending so it's all good!" is kind of dumb, if you consider Max, Chloe, Rachel or Sean & Daniel. That's the point of these games - all those people deserve a fully happy ending! But they can't get it because that's just how life is. It's imperfect and hardly fair.
@@johnsk.j6894 you didn't pay attention, depending of your choices typhon ends bad or REALY BAD, the thing is Diana was already putting evidence together to leave typhon, and jed was always felling guilty as we see from his note and the jacked that he keped besides other things, as I saw depending of your choice diana and jed are used as scapegoat, typhon loses money and a new president is designed but this is it, and typhon looks like is going to "end well" or diana shits typhon and ends up as a justice hero, jed name is not in the sites, just local news(but basically nothing bad is said about him, is just " a shock"), typhon loses money a new president is designed but soon quits (leaving the feeling they are to much fucked up for saving) either way Alex is receiving a lot of calls from the press and there is a lawyer trying to convince her to shit typhon but it just don't get along with who she is get money from her dead brother, but besides that what bad ending did you expected to happen besides "she doesn't have anyone, her brother is dead, no friends, no family, in a town full of persons who didn't believed in her or leaving the town with the only remaining memory of her bother and his hope for her to have a home behind and againg being in the streets not having a home or place to return living a unstable life with a power that mostly make her mentally unstable", it felt more real to me than the others were "the city is destroyed" or a young adult alone is the only one to discover and put together proufs of a conspiracy and ends up destroying a big company
@Reveluv "In LiS2 you didn't get attached to the characters, there were only Sean and his brother" Speak for yourself, lol. And are you seriously trying to compare the endings of LiS1 or LiS2 to TC? How is the dilemma of leaving vs staying in any way on the same level of significance? Not to mention the choice can be easily reversed by our character in the future. Alex can always either come back to Haven or leave later. That is not the case for Max or Sean (or even Chloe in BtS with exposing James to Rachel for good). It's literally weaker than the previous games. Plus, each ending has this cheerful undertone that Alex got Gabe his justice and now gets a happy/normal life. There's no actual sacrifice, no serious dilemma, no price for getting something else. Alex's investigation ends up successful and she can just move on. That's just too happy for LiS. And I love how you just *had to* specify that Alex leaves with Steph. She left with Ryan in my game and she can also leave alone. That's what we're saying. The main differences in how the endings play out is your romance. I'm not saying that's not sweet, but it's a bit too flat. There should've been more to that if the game was supposed to be just as powerful in its message as the previous games.
@Reveluv I don't consider Blood Brothers a happy ending, but based on my beliefs it's closest to being a happy one and it's certainly most satisfying for me. I'm unable to follow your logic here because I don't believe you can compare the message of LiS2 endings to the endings of TC. Alex succeeded and didn't have to sacrifice anything personally. She can just move on and the endings here specifically make sure to show that. Sean and Daniel, on the other hand, don't get that. In Blood Brothers, they get *some* justice and stay together but they have to keep surviving on their own. They faced so much injustice and, in the end, they *still* have to sacrifice something, be it freedom, staying together, or a safe life. That's what makes the message of LiS2 so powerful. You fought for something, and yet you can't come out the other side whole, because life is simply imperfect. Same with LiS1 and Max either giving up on her best friend or a whole town of people. The endings of TC strive more for showing you that you *can* make life perfect, if you try hard enough. And it's not like I can't appreciate the message, it's just a bit old and weak to me. The argument "but Alex lost her brother" doesn't really serve anything as well. Rachel died. The brothers lost their dad. Does life care? No. Max and Sean still have to make imperfect decisions and sacrifice something major.
Damn my boy Ryan was done dirty for most of these. Alex breaks up with him if romanced and/or he's left alone without Alex or Steph after finding out his dad is a killer. RIP For real though, both of the love interests were great. Steph and Alex are adorable, and watching this made me think that Steph was the best option for a better ending, but I really enjoyed the depth of Ryan's character throughout. I chose him first and it stung when he didn't take my side in C5, but I totally get it. That's his father, it wouldn't be so easy. All of the characters feel real because they are so human. And because it's a game about empathy, it does an amazing job showing that.
Another thing just occurred to me about Jed and Ryan.... They both found themselves in situations where they were forced to make a quick decision to leave someone behind in order to save themselves and others - Jed in the mines, Ryan with Gabe's rope tied to Alex. It's a great parallel that isn't particularly obvious at first glance. What makes them different is that Jed's mistake in judgement led to his situation being caused in the first place (and in fact was indirectly responsible for Ryan being in a similar one later).
no? in the memory, it shows that his workers repeatedly ask him to lay off, bc its not safe, and he keeps pushing to force them to work, then runs and prioritizes himself and leaves others to die, then covers it up, while ryan isnt responsible for his situation, and chose to save one person compared to losing both of them, he's also honest about it and blames himself
I don't feel particularly mad about the ""choices not really mattering much" because all the games are very different in regards to the choice system. They differ based on how all the meta-human characters' powers work along with the story. Max could go back in time so of course the consequences weren't as major. I think the point of that whole system was "you can't fix everything and you can't save everyone" which I'm thinking could be a part of the lesson of the game. It'll always hold a place in my heart, even with its flaws. The choice system in LIS 2 definitely had the most impact in terms of consequences. Daniel's telekinesis is more of an offensive power and Daniel is a kid. The choices Sean makes throughout the game not only majorly influence him but also seriously affect his little brother. They determine how Daniel uses his really (possibly) dangerous power throughout the game. You could tell Daniel to do or not do something and based on the choices you make he could actually completely do the opposite of what you want him to do. That's one of the reasons there are so many different outcomes by the end of it. Man that game made me cry like a bitch. It's a shame some people can't and/or refuse to connect with it enough to enjoy it. In this one, mega empath Alex here, is able to influence people by tapping into their emotions. It makes sense that the way she helps (or "helps" depending on the choice) is what affects the consequences at the end especially. The council sides with you if you help them emotionally. Eleanor sides with you because you helped her because you were honest with her and because you kept her trust by not telling Riley about her condition. Duckie sides with you because you help him with his wife. Charlotte sides with you if you just leave her and let her process her anger by herself. Pike sides with you because you take away his fear and give him courage- whatever whatever- All the systems and endings differ depending on the game and in my opinion they all work pretty well with their respective stories. It doesn't feel too formulaic and I can fuck with that. I love this franchise. I feel like they've really improved since the first one.
i can agree to this. personally, i like the impact/consequences of choices but i can definitely see where they were trying to go with this game. my only complaint is the short endings :( otherwise i feel like they did so good with this game!
The most touching part of this story is without a doubt the scene where alex picks apart Jeds fear, anger and sadness. It was truly a masterpiece and not gonna lied I was so close to tearing up.
*After the ending* Alex : Arcadia bay sounds like a fun place, so why did you leave? Steph : *Umm...there was this trash talking deliquent girl who used to hang out with a prom queen who told me that the prom queen was single but it turns out she was lying, then our photography professor turned out to be creep who would drug young girls & photoshoot them, but then the prom queen died in captivity which turned him into a serial killer.* *Then a few months after the deliquent girl's childhood friend returned, dead people started coming back to life & then a massive cyclone wiped out the entire town & the professor was arrested. It was quite a scandal actually.* Steph : No reason in particular, I just needed a fresh start. Alex : *Reads Steph's mind* Alex : Wtf? Did all that really happen? Steph : Hey!! Will you stop doing that? Alex : Okay!! Okay!! But answer the question. Steph : Yeah...believe it or not. Alex : Hmm....life is strange.
I feel like there’s a parallel in this game with the way they made it a bit harder to convince one romance option like in the walking dead game where Louis would not vouch for you and many ppl hold this against these characters but like realistically guys would you believe some person you’ve only know for less than a year over your own family/best friend?
THIS except both love interests are good in LIS true colors (I like them both with alex but I'm geared more towards steph). In TWDG, only Louis is a good love interest, violet sucks bc shes a terrible person.
@@wholethedogsout880 I’m a Louis fan as well it just sucks how much he gets hated on for the one flaw which ANY normal person would do the same violet sucks cause even though you get with her she still has a thing for Minnie and stays with her on the boat like what? And if you save Louis she fights you???
umm.. the endings are still not much different. It only matters in a relationship-thingy, and nothing happens with Jed or Typhon. I think LIS 2 is still the only game in the franchise where the choices really matter.
Too bad the rest of that game is a mess. True colors is the best in the franchise I think. They really nailed the nuance that was kinda missing in the other games
To those of you who were also not satisfied like I was, here's how I see the true ending: picking a card mattered and if your choice was the ocean then shortly after the bus ride you get to see them both driving together by the ocean's coastside with the song: "Sea Oleena - Swimming Story" playing in the background and a little bit after we're shown scenes of them performing live at the beach before one day returning back to Haven after having experienced several years of adventures around the world. I encourage everyone who read this message to leave a comment with a song that they believe would fit even better the scenery of this kind of wholesome ending.
Yesss this is what I was thinking. They're young and working in a record shop in a small town for the rest of your life seemed ... Dull. So traveling and adventuring a little and then returning to haven was my head canon too.
@@thepaperninja3123 yeah that did suck about that choice. I actually also though why can't they stay for a little bit and then just buy a motorhome so they can travel together all three of them 🥺 And after that return.
I'm a little confused. I did choose the ocean card (with Steph). But for me, the ending cut to moments before her performance (where she gets a message from Steph). I was replaying that particular scene (because I chose the other ending first, but everything else was the same), but since it was the last scene, replaying it should not screw up any of the changes I made in the previous scenes.
Say he chooses to believe Alex and she ends up being wrong. That would tear a family apart… I think it makes sense that he’s really hard to convince. The game would be a waste of time if they didn’t put so much accuracy in emotions. How do you not realize how challenging it would be for a son to accuse his own father of murder just because a girl he has a little crush on said so…
It takes a lot to go against the person who cared for you, because it'll hurt the most. I wouldn't have been surprised if they hard-coded ryan turning on you unless you got a full 4/4 vote. When you've been lead to believe that most of your life, that your father is the heart of your town, the town that you were willing to spend your whole life in, it's gonna take a bit for that trust to break. But, as shown here... When it does, it shatters. Tragically, if you do convince him, instead of Jed admitting to the truth, he'd rather manipulate his own son to think he was being Gaslighted.
Ryan had to sacrifice his best friend, found out his father was a murderer, got friendzoned by Alex, and now he sees me leaving town with my beloved Steph without me even saying a word nor looking at him. Ouch.
I had the ending were I dated Ryan but he didn't believe me, so I chose to think about the relationship. Then I chose to leave Haven and I could not imagine that he will really go with me. Otherwise maybe I would have thought about the last decision a bit longer. I think now just Alex is happy but Ryan isn't. I guess if I stayed, it would be the other way around. I think the game wants us to choose Steph.
Am I the only one that thought Jed would be the bad guy from the initial trailer release? I literally didn’t allow myself to like him because he seems like the type to want to be in charge and get violent when he is challenged. Obviously his personality was different than that somewhat, but I think the twist was somewhat predictable. Other than that this game was amazing & they added a lot more to the ending which kinda made up for the predictability.
@@Devusowsky Yea i liked the first life is strange the most. But i kinda felt so home and chilled in haven & at the springfestival for example. The vibe was soooo cool omg.. also to visit the little city by night.. or even just look for riley and duckie😪😂 Just felt kinda home like max in the academy.. idk. Cant wait for wavelenghts and i hope we can visit haven again with steph. Just beeing in that record store would be a liiiittle little bit boring for me. Or not boring.. just not as nice as outside in haven or in the black latern haha.
I wish the game was longer! I liked the idea of Alex staying in Haven because that's where her brother found his new life and her father also lived there for a time as well. And now they are both buried there. It feels right that she has found her life there. It's as if she was 'called' there by her father. I see Alex as someone who needs 'family' and to belong somewhere, and she can stay connected to Charlotte and Ethan. In my imagination she opens a consult office to counsel people with her empath powers. haha! Ryan was my choice and he backed Alex. His dad was a gaslighter though, so it was probably hard for him to do. okay I take these LIS stories way too seriously.
This game gave me an incredible experience and a major self evaluation check, but one of the best things it gave me was more songs for my playlists. Every song in this game is played in the right way, in the right time, even in the credits!!!
We won't ever know unless we dish out 80$ for a story telling game since we can't hear the music on the playthroughs here. They were quick to push the no music "streamer mode" but haven't done anything about copyright takedowns. This game without the music is utterly disappointing and they should know better.
Tbh its worth the price. It has a fair share of replay and is very fleshed out despite it being short. Plus the music has been uploaded online by dedicated fans into a big playlist, but if you want to hear some of the original music made just for the game, look up the 1hr video of stephs radio and for good reason on the music copyright. If you were to stream it, you'd get with like 17 strikes since a lot of outside music is used
It helped that she didn’t just fall ALL the way down without stopping, plus hitting some of those boards on the way down slowed her decent a bit as well.
@@Blazingwheel Did you play it? Cause it was a game. It just has many cinematics. Just like most games. It was just how games like LiS, TWDG, MCSM, TWAU and more have done it. They are all still games.
110% Agreed. After Life Is Strange 2 being a disappointment for me. True Colours brought my love back to Life Is Strange. Mysteries, small town conspiracies, and well-rounded loveable characters in their own respect... that's what Life Is Strange is and Deck Nine did an amazing job with this game.
@@TheHufflepuffSaint same. I hated life is strange 2. I feel like it was a disgrace to the first one. I was skeptical about this game at first as well. Like how could they make emotional power interesting, but boy did they exceed my expectations. This game made me feel more then the other games. By the end I was almost bawling. I thought the LiS games were dying but they have been revived.
Game was pretty, depth, fun, and the soundtrack was great, as it has become the rule in LiS games. All the characters are surprisingly easy to care about and learn more about them. The town it's really pretty, but very very small (this may be the LiS game with the smallest setting). Really nice game, but it did not make me feel that roller coaster of emotions the other ones did. It was too short and I believe the love interests' felt pushed and not natural, even Steph. Also, are we to believe that Alex, coming from a troubled past, and just recently losing her brother, the only reason for coming to Haven, can adapt so well and get along with everybody in a matter of weeks? Even Max had a handful of enemies, and she was as geek, dork, and awkward as it gets. Maybe the problem with this game was that they tried to replicate the original that the flow of the storyline did not feel natural. Mayybe it was too short. Or maybe it was because it was developed by a different studio. Still. good game, but not the roller coaster of emotions LiS series is famous for.
I think it's heavily implied that the "troubled past" Alex had in the group home was largely due to her powers and the people around her. She internalizes emotions, but especially negative emotions like anger and sadness. And I don't imagine there was a shortage of either in the foster care system. Definitely, there's her own share of problems stemming from her personal background, but I don't think that removed from that environment, it's that unrealistic that she could get along with most of the people she meets.
I think it's just different. In a good way. The rollercoaster was made because of the episodic format from the old games. Cliffhanger and so on helped A LOT. The 1st game plays way different when you have access to the 5 chapters instead of waiting months to play a new one. Same when you binge watch a TV show instead of waiting each weeks for the next episode. Also Alex does not meet everybody in the town. Just a few of them. The love interests are a bit forced too yeah. It's not school love/Drama anymore. They're adults so it's a bit weird to see a relationship in 3 days top.
The writing is so much better, you have to give it a credit. First lis was written by a 13 yr old wattpad writer This one is written after that kid grows up and learns to write Different studios is also what made it better, both graphic and writing wise. I'm sad there's no more different endings like in second game but I guess this game is more about characters and their relationships than everything else. Because what you do does matter on who trusts you and that way you can see if you treated the people right or not. I wish also it had more depth but I'm totally ready for lis4 from this studio, because they handled it better than dontnod.
Honestly this is a weird opinion for me to hear, as this is my favorite LIS game bro. The characters and storyline are soooo much better now, they are sacrificing play time maybe but for a more complex and interesting approach, better visuals, and amazing buildup and shock value. The past two were predictable and longwinded tbh, and this plot, the deaths, and the bonding of the characters is so much more emotionally compelling to me here. Her superpower helps her learn/see joy for the first time, and led her to a comfortable and supportive environment she probably never had before. As someone from a troubled past, the first time experiencing joy like that is monumental, and i would definitely say after the journey she went through and her skill it expedited her healing and her connections.There is no problem with this game tbh, absolutely noNE. I agree about the love interests, but i believe its because it is trying to teach a very different lesson about love than romance and passion, quite the opposite actually. The gritty risky hard parts, the dedication and responsibility, the trust and work etc.... I saw the trio as an adoptive family for Gabe and that was beautiful on its own, whichever choice you make they all love each other so deeply that although the romantic lead is forced, the mf ending is great regardless.
I'm so glad I got the most perfect ending with everyone in the council backing me up as well as romancing Ryan and backing me as well during the meeting. Also, I got Ryan to go with Alex to pursue her music adventures. I'm thankful that I took my time with the game and explored every corner when I could. EXPLORE, PEOPLE!
For me personally he was shown to be way too nice so I thought "I dont know how but he will be the bad guy in the end". for me its most likely because jefferson in the first lis was "kind and so popular too" that I thought "hm the same goes for jed". Well.,.. only that not evvery teen had a crush on Jed.
@@tifa__ Also they actually foreshadowed it with the LARP by making Jed the villain. Already suspected him from the beginning as he was considered the hero of Haven, but was pretty obvious after the LARP....
i didnt consider Jed as the villain until i explored Alex's apartment and noticed how many letters he was writing to her. it seemed obsessive almost. love how the developers made it seem like he was trying to help her after her brother's death but in actuality, he was totally trying to get Alex to trust him only to try to push her into silence. i have to applaud the LiS3 team for that !
This has become my favorite game in the franchise. The characters are so well written. People think choices in this game didn’t matter but it did just the way it was supposed to. This game was about Alex. Her coming to haven for a second chance and in that process how much she success or fails, proves her people around wrong that misjudged her so much her entire life. In this game you are put into Alexs shoes and go through this journey with her. Make the morally right choices and see where that puts you. This game is about learning empathy for the chaeacter and us the players. The ending where she lefts and no one comes to say goodbye to her was such gut punch. Yoh failed to belong somewhere where you were given a second chance. You blew it. But you learned something. Not everything have to be a loss. At the end of everything you get to reflect on what you did. In the good endings Alex and us learn what’s it’s like to belong and in the bad ones we learn what It's like to fail people around us. This game teaches us to notice those who are around us a little more then we did and they rewarded for it too. Like the one with Duckie. Thank You to everyone who worked on this game so hard to for years to deliver us with this heartfelt and very personal story. It helped me and it will have a special place in my heart. Thank you DeckNine and SquareEnix
I wanted to want to pick Steph but the first play thru I do of these games I always “go with my gut”. Saving Ryan on the cliff telling him to forgive himself just GOT ME a lot more than foosball with Steph so I chose him even though I like them both. Point is… I agree with you, they’re so cuteeee!!
@@ArtumsOG yo that was the same for me too! I was going into the game being like "oh i'm gonna romance steph for sure" then the cliffside scene happened with them hugging away the sad and then alex sharing his joy for the first time in her life just....got me dude. I was like "oh the mountain puppy boy got me fuck"
The minute Steph held the records up in the window, I was like “SPARKS” and Steph was my choice. Even watching these endings with Ryan as the romance, there’s just no romantic chemistry there for me.
ryan got me the moment he made steph step out of the store so that alex wouldn't have to deal with her anger. what a sweetie. i romanced ryan, got him to believe me, and left haven with him. 100000% would choose him again
I can't get over the fact that in one ending they didn't believe Alex even though she's standing in front of them injured and covered in blood.....The biggest betrayal ever was when Ryan has the audacity to not believe her even after everything...Funny how Steph regardless of if you romance her or not stands by Alex.
@@alexus1136 it wouldn’t be fair if he just believes a girl he met recently over his own dad in every ending, which is why he’s the hardest to have on your side. just because he can believe her, doesn’t mean it’s the biggest betrayal if he doesn’t. ITS. HIS. DAD. ALRIGHT?
@@BazookaGamingGirl She limped inside with a bullet wound and completely tore up. She was speaking facts about Typhon, the town, and Jed. Even the other people who had just met her as well, believed her and were on her side over Jed. Even Pike, a deputy, who said there’s, in fact, evidence of the shady stuff of Typhon and Jed. Come on now, don’t be dumb.
The stay in Haven ending is way more wholesome. Seeking adventure sounds fun, but like her vision of Gabe said, in Haven she got everything she ever wanted: a place to call home, people who like and care about her, a boyfriend/girlfriend, a job, a family. As for the romance, i went with Ryan, and i still prefer that route, but the most complete ending is romancing Steph, because she stays in Haven, and Ryan doesn't leave anyway. Edit: never mind, Ryan is absent from Steph's route, same as she is in his, it looks like he doesn't believe Alex by default, if you romance Steph, and later apologizes by text, but Alex doesn't reply, and he isn't mentioned or seen in the ending. He even said in his route "without you, what's left in Haven for me", so he might've left Haven same as Steph did.
Adventure is the way to go- too much emotional trauma attached to haven. Too many ugly truths discovered. Don’t think time would make me just forget. Although grateful for the experiences, my option would be hit the open road
@@Deardahliax What about her entire childhood, all the years she was basically homeless, everyone treated her poorly, even the people in the foster homes. The drama with Jed is nothing compared to that. Being an orphan is one of the worst things someone can go through.
for me this is the best game in the series/the characters in this game are more relatable and more likable the graphics are better the animations are better the writing's better everything is better/the story might be simpler but also more realistic especially compared to the first game
For me, stoey in season 1 still be best.. Season 1 made me laughed, cry, shocked n devastatingly heartbroken True colors..... Just made me glad i finished it although... Yes the graphix & facial expression massively improved & alex chen is the most likable protagonist in the series yet Unless u count Chloe Price as a main character.. Then chloe still wins
i agree. i actually think true colors is the best LiS game out of the series. as MUCH as i loved the original, this one just blew it out the park with me
When she came to The Black Lantern, I thought everyone knew about killing me and they all voted for me to die. Would be a crazy plot-twist ngl, but enjoyed it so much anyway! Not my fav LiS, but still it did write smthng on my heart for sure. btw my tierlist of LiS games: 1, 2, BtS and last this. Need some more decision based games like this, any recommendations? peace
Just to confirm although most people already have…have you played Detroit Become Human and Heavy Rain? Also decision based games but more intense than these in my opinion.
so in fact there are 2 endings, and neither is decided by the choices made during the game, just by a decision made at the end? Well im a lil bit disappointed not gonna lie
Yes but the choices throughout foretells the loyalty of those in haven which leads to you either choosing you to stay in haven or leave. For example if no one is loyal to you chances are you may want to leave and seek adventure elsewhere. And if you have all the loyalty it may gear you more towards staying. It’s all connected.
yea that's how i felt as well not gonna lie. i still enjoyed the game though. i actually really liked that all the choices you made with the townies affected if they sided with you or not but i wish that impacted the ending as well. like if no one sides with alex what if she ends up back at her foster care or even a mental facility? maybe that would've been better than Jed just going to jail and Alex just getting off the hook.
@@evepsych EXACTLY! I thought mental health facility ending could the be the canon ending bc maybe Alex absorb many townies's emotion or she cant handle so much pressure or smth like that😬😕
Amazing game. I absolutely loved it and I'm so glad aside from Steph, this game was allowed to stand on its own without any past references to previous character. I fell in love with Alex and the Citizens of Haven so much. I cannot wait for the Steph DLC that's for sure.
Dude this game is fucking amazing. Sure it’s different compared to the rest of the series and yeah the story could have been executed a bit better but holy shit these are some of the most genuinely interesting and lovable characters I have ever experienced in any form of media ever, and the setting of Haven Springs is breathtaking!
I flirted Ryan many times, gave him the rose, kissed him and yet he still didn't stood up for me. I think it's because in the chapter 2 I didn't back him up about Gabe calling Mac. I wasn't paying attention to what everybody was saying so I panicked and picked the neutral option
This game is a such a masterpiece! The characters, most of the music, the sceneries, the story, etc. are simply breathtaking!! That being said, the "endings", however, could've have certainly been improved for the better. On one hand, Alex could move onto many different places, meet more people, share her music with the world, enjoy the thrill of adventuring, unlike what she used to experience growing up. She will be away from Haven Springs and not have to worry and think about the fact that she is living in the same town where her brother and father died. However, she loses one of her best friends in the process. Not to mention, she would have no place to really call as her home if she keeps traveling everywhere. It would be very chaotic for her, being in front of large crowds, meetings fans, etc. since she still is learning how to interact with others better than what she used to do. On the other hand, if she stays in Haven, she actually would be honoring the fact that her brother spent a long time looking for her, and even wanted her to have a place to call home. She also would have a place to restart her life and be a part of a community and learn to be more vulnerable with others, having a chance to try to trust people again. She never truly felt this happy in a long time until she got to Haven. Also, she could just live in Haven for a few years, get better doing music with Steph, then hit the road with Steph as the drummer, and Ryan as their manager, perhaps. Now that would be super epic!!!! Both ways are very interesting, and bittersweet. I hate the fact that the three amigos are split up no matter the choice that ends up being made. However, unlike the other LIS games, this one actually has somewhat happier endings.
No, they don't split up every time. In my game Ryan backed Alex and Steph stayed to be together with Alex. You don't see all of them together in the imagination cutscene, but they are all still in Haven and good with each other.
It makes sense to leave with Steph since shes been wanting to go in the beginning (doesnt matter whether people believe you or not)... If you chose Ryan initially with the rose, and he believes you then you should stay since it doesn't make sense for Ryan to go with you since hes been Haven his whole life. Less believable he just gets up and follows you. Obviously if Ryan didnt believe you and you didnt forgive him, you should leave since there is nothing for you here at Haven. I think Ryan believing u or not depends on how many others believe you (Charlotte, Pike, Eleanor, Duckie, Steph). Steph by default believes you so you just need 2/4 the others to swing the decision for Ryan to believe since by counting Steph its 3/5 and thats majority.
i actually think it does make sense he leaves after all that. Of course it dosent mean he wont come back but after finding out your role model and part of your life in that town was a lie, id assume he wants to get away and breath with the person he loves and doesnt lie to him.
@@sarahsellers8270 same as you. Ryan didn't believe me still. So I think you might have to get everyone (Pike included) to believe you, so he does too :/
@@sarahsellers8270 I think you need to successfully get Charlotte and to calm him down successfully as well by forgiving himself and not taking away Charlotte's anger but tell her its valid she feels the way she does. But I'm not sure. It sucks they make Ryan such a hair trigger but Steph will believe you. Its prob cuz it's his dad but idk
I love how there's not a "Steph believed Alex during the vote/ Steph didn't believe Alex during the vote", wether you choose her romantically or platonically, she will always believe Alex, it's so cute :3
Tbh the endings really upset me. After playing lis 2 and absolutely loving how they added more endings and actual choice based endings along with the extra cut scenes after showing how everything went I was sooo excited for this game but the endings were kinda fucked. You pretty much get the same ending no matter what and they aren’t even that good. The first ending I chose was Alex leaving with Steph along with Berlin and the loft, and I was hoping there’d be a quick cutscene of them chilling in a house together, on a date or at least performing together??? But it was just one quick scene of Alex alone. I know these games take a while to make and so do multiple endings but I payed $60 for this game after waiting for years it wouldn’t have killed them to make the endings slightly longer :(
It’s weird that the story format is so similar, less like “life is strange” more like “life is repetitive”. But I’m glad that they were able to humanise this story more, not everyone people see as “villains” is because they are just “evil”. I was worried because it had the “red herring”, the “knocked out Self reflections”, then the, “turns out chill older person is actually big bad guy” But at least in this there wasn’t just a “black and white”, “good and evil”. Although the powers were a bit all over the place in how they work and felt like you wouldn’t need the emotion seeing powers, sometimes just felt like mind reading, they could’ve done better with the power, make it have clear rules of use that are consistent and develop over time, getting better or stronger. I think my favourite thing was my ability to empathise with Alex’s past as I’ve been through similar, also been through something similar to Jeds feelings of guilt and suppressing it through a lie of heroes pride. But I ultimately liked how your push for the truth hurt people, aware that wanting justice isn’t the same as bringing the loved one back. This is probably my least favourite game of the few, power wise, missed potential. But my favourite game of the few, character wise, outstanding differences in the characters making them all quite interesting and unique with the overlay of “same”, which is obviously what the power mechanic was made around. I was skeptic of this game at least half-way through, but the pay-off really made it work out in the end.
@@Deardahliax The story structure. It's very much like the first one. You got the obvious red herring, you got the nice/cool older guy who lets off red flags, you got the internal self reflection dream sequence after you get put into a limbo situation when near death. Just very similar with story structure of the first one. If certain decisions avoided these key points then it would be different, because you wouldn't be put through these parts of the story, but you HAVE to go through them because they're key parts. Because the games can be played multiple times I played the first one multiple times, I felt like I knew exactly what was coming in True Colours simply because it was structured like the first one. That's not saying the game is a copy of anything, it's just comparing it to it's own predecessors. I think all the characters in True Colours are interesting to amazing, they obviously needed to be layered to pull of the game mechanic but they are fun to explore through multiple playthroughs. But that's not completely detrimental till the end of the story, where they play a key role in the main narrative, so you are right in the sense of it's different. Just how it does the story from the tragedy to the resolution, most of the main story, is told in pretty much the same way as the first.
@@TheStrongVirus well every sequel to any game plays off the original themes or it would not be a Lis game anymore lol. I do feel like this game was its own piece with enough ties and themes to the first one while still telling its own unique story. But I do see what you are saying.
@@Deardahliax Yeah, I mean it in a sense where it's not like it ruins the whole game, I just rolled my eyes a bit when I saw it coming. I don't think it's to relate back to previous games, it's not trying to be a reference or call back. It's like if I were to tell the story of, "The Tortoise and the Hare" but instead of a Tortoise and Hare I use a Snail and Chimp, instead of a running race they ride bicycles and the winner gets a pie. That's fine, sure it's like the story everyone has heard but it would be my first little tale and I have my own little spins on it, so it's different. But then I write another "Tortoise and the Hare" story, but with a sloth and cheetah, they fly planes and they win a diamond ring. You're gonna be like, "Hey, wait a sec..." about half-way through, probably lose interest or feel a little unfulfilled, especially if you tried to immerse yourself into the story. That's sort of the issue I had with the True Colours story structure. Because they can tell stories using different structures, doesn't always have to be a Nathan/Mac for example. But something they did WAAAAYYYY better and different was the "bad guy/s" weren't "bad" they were just human, made mistakes and trying to run and hide or pretending to be strong by fighting from their own issues. I liked that, that was the biggest difference with the story structure. All the other antagonists were just bad people for the sake of it, just evil because they and are unjustified, they know they are "bad guy". I think the gameplay could have done more, but it's by no means bad, the LARP bit was pretty cool, felt a bit like "filler" but I did like that they added more day to day stuff in the story, rather than in the other games where it is just, Normal life-drama-normal-drama-drama-drama-DRAMA!
@@TheStrongVirus yeah I get what you mean. Though I do feel like the villains in this game were a lot refreshing in that Jed is not your typical” super villain” in that he seems like a regular dude who made a mistake and got lost within that, which humanizes him a lot more and makes it more a grey area where the characters are more relateable and real. The larp part did feel a bit like filler I agree. But overall I thought the game had some great themes and the foreshadowing with Jed was pretty awesome.
I hate how Ryan relationship boils down too, you believe me? And he just goes off but if you go I’m sorry. He’s like no I’m sorry. Meanwhile Steph is just so supportive
I got scared to take Pike's fear after what happened with taking Charlotte's anger. As for Eleanor, I didn't think it was good to lie to Riley so I told her about Eleanor's Alzheimer's. I didn't even notice Ducky in the Black Lantern for his part.... I just had to laugh bc I happened to make choices that ended up with nobody backing me up except Steph LOL I was so nervous that because of nobody believing me, I'd get a bad end. I was pleasantly surprised, I chose to stay in Haven with Steph :)
I literally had everyone side with me. Even Ryan believed me. But then again I kissed him, because even though I like steph, she reminds me too much of chloe. And also I really love how dorky ryan is so. Im super happy with my first playthrough ending
Everyone siding with you probably automatically him side with you. Which is probably because you don't take anger from Charlotte and that means you don't lash out at Steph and Ryan moments later. Dating him likely doesn't matter, because I was with Steph on the Spring festival.
No one sided with me except Duckie and Steph. I get it taking Charlotte's anger made her not side with me. I get taking Pike's wouldve made him side with me. I get Ryan wouldve sided with me if I was dating him or sent him to seduce Diane. But I just don't get how I get Eleanor side with me. Is it coz I decided not to tell her about Gabe?
@@tishyo77 from what I know, yes, that played a part. But that's not the real reason. Eleanor doesn't want Riley to know about her illness. But because she forgot about Gabe and you didn't tell her, she missed Gabe's funeral and that's how Riley found out about her disease. The only way to keep Eleanor on your side is to make sure that Riley never knows about her illness (as she won't go for college after learning this).
I enjoyed playing this game till episode 3 and it made me more excited for the further episodes but I was highly disappointed after as the episodes felt so short and there were not many player choices. Also I wish there were more romantic interactions after we choose who to be with but it lacked there as well. And the most disappointing thing were the endings which were just based on the romantic interest we choose and if we leave Haven or not, nothing drastic like the endings in lis 2 and no depth at all especially if we choose to leave Haven. This game got me so hyped in the beginning but left with almost nothing in the end 😞
I was more concerned about why not to use a phone as a source of light, given that apparently it wasn't broken by the fall, since we still can use it to read texts later on. But yeah, I get it that it would not be nearly as dramatic as a glowing redness from a distance.
I got the ending where Steph and Alex romance and stayed in Haven Springs game was good but it was short and can’t wait to play wavelengths on September 30 People who believed me: Steph, Charlotte and Pike Even got all trophies on my first play through and completed last night
Got the same ending, everyone believed me but Eleanor (I told Riley she has dementia - i believe this is why she didn’t believe me, also the way she spoke about “you need help” was hypocritical as she was the one who needed help)
![All Steph and Alex Romance Scenes (FULL LOVE STORY) Life is Strange: True Colors [4K 60FPS]](/img/n.gif)
The foreshadowing where Jed was the king during the LARP and twist he was the villain - and then twist he was the villain in the actual game….I thought that was amazing.
OMG I didn't realized that!
OMG I NEVER REALIZED THAT THAT'S EPIC
While the playing episode 3 I was wondering why he played the villain and since then he was sus to me…
I don’t know how my silly brain didn’t catch that obvious foreshadowing. I suspected he was the real villain as soon as I saw him for the first time.
He gave me a weird feeling when you first meet, then he was cool, but him being evil in the larp I was like “oh yeah he’s a bad guy “ lol
It's weird that only Steph and Ryan worried about Alex injuries while the others just sit there
Yeah, whether they were on her side or not, it’s weird that that they didn’t seemed concerned at all.
pikes fear was removed so he doesnt care, duckies a drunk and eleanor probably forgot who everyone is.
@@malakaijudah lol yes,poor Eleanor 😂
@@malakaijudah I just lol’d 😂
@@malakaijudah Eleanor: Wait, how did I end up here?
Are we NOT gonna talk about how Alex’s glasses have not broke AT ALL?!?
no
…….that’s your takeaway from the game?
Or fallen off, meanwhile I just turn my head around and my glasses are gone lmao 😝
NO shut up!
@@Interpr3ter Whoah, what's with you?
it's so funny to me how they can say she's lying when she looked like that 😭😭
Frrr
And the dialogue was a bit unrealistic
@@mannyoftheeast3318 fr 😭😭 she looked like hell and is definitely bleeding somewhere and they just went 🤨🤨
Tbf think they assumed she fell in the mines herself looking for stuff.
No I get how they didn't believe her because it is true that sometimes people need an answer so bad that they'll do anything to find that answer even if it's completely fabricated.
Like sometimes people even hurt themselves for these fictional answers
In this situation it was a little bit out-of-place but I could see how this scenario could happen
Max: *Photographer 📸*
Sean: *Artist 🎨*
Alex: *Musician 🎵*
Chloe: Punk princess who died for the sins of Arcadia Bay
photographers and musicians also are artists
@@marcant1444 And some consider graffiti to be an urban artform.
Didn't Max also play guitar?
@@aromusbaspet9032 "died" yeah, sure.
First ending be like: You killed my father, you killed my brother, then you shot me in the head and threw me into a mine 10+ meters deep. But I forgive you.
I forgave him to break him more at the moment. Because Jed hated himself deep down, me forgiving him conflicts with that feeling. Being hated would feel natural to Jed and fit his idea of self. But by forgiving him I show that I am better and stronger than he could ever be.
Oh believe me that hurts him so much worse than condemnation could.
I wanted to choose forgiving him because I knew that would hurt him emotionally more, but I just couldn’t and chose the other option
Yeah people forgave so alex could move on with her life.
I forgave him since, aside from attempting to murdering me the night before, or the cover up (which he basically have to make a tough choice nonetheless despite wanting to save the stuck miners including Chen's dad), he was a pretty cool bloke to Alex and Gabe. And I feel like he tried to make up for his past by being Haven's dad. And yeah, forgiving him would hit more like a truck to him as he already hates himself any way. But him shooting Alex in the mines was really tempting to hate him, but I kinda felt Alex's feel bad and pitied him as she also kinda hates herself, and in forgiving him, also kinda forgives herself.
That ending where Alex is about to get in the bus but turns around and there’s literally NO ONE broke me. All she ever wanted was to belong, have a home and feel loved, and to see no one came to say goodbye to her? It was like her worst fears became true :(
isn’t she still friends with ryan and steph in long distance tho?
@@pheonixpidgey5294 At least they could say good bye when she leaves. But I would guess that ending is if you didn't help anyone and didn't romance them, which still makes a bit sad but on the first part fair.
@@toastdoggoo I don't think Ryan comes to stay goodbye even after you choose to romance with him.
Atleast steph was there. Also, in my gameplay, Pike & Ducky came to see Alex off
Eh she's still young
As Rachel amber once said:
“Stephs so cute”
Jefferson: Take a selfie
@@royalkumar795
Max: Eat shit and die!😡
( Rewind )
Max: F*ck you!😡
Jefferson: Good answer!🙂
@@0MujaKina0 In what way? 👀🌝
@@KF3000-w7x
To kill him!😡🔪
:l
Is it just me who felt like the episodes were much shorter than in the previous games? Idk, it just felt like it ended really fast🤷♀
Yeah, they were way shorter, last episode only took 1hr 26mins for me when they were usually around 3hr mark!
@@bengejuknowit3048 I was wondering about it because everyone said that True Colors is as long as the other LiS games.
It only took me 3 days to play and beat twice it’s definitely shorter hopefully the DLCs will make up for it
@@Anna-lv7by on ps5 game time played it shows its a lot shorter between the other games!
yeah i played through LiS2 in like 5 sittings in 18h but I finished TC in 2 sittings and 7h
everyone's a bit hard on ryan for potentially not backing alex during the council meeting while steph will believe her, the difference is, jed is ryan's FATHER. steph has no real stakes and for ryan it's incredibly emotionally painful and confusing. he's human. i'm sure had it been steph's parent (and town hero), she would've hesitated as well.
What do you have to do so ryan betrays you?
@@Thisisnotapipe_ uhhh someone else in the comments said if you take charlottes anger and you later freak out around steph and Ryan it makes him less likely to back you at the meeting
@@jemcarstairstoe Actually, as someone confirmed my suspicions in another comment, him believing Alex is actually a really high hurdle. You have to have everyone else on your side for him to believe you, not even one person expressing doubt/disbelief towards Alex. As for how to pull that off:
Help Eleanor, don't snitch to Riley about her,
don't take Charlotte's anger and forgive her(?),
dance with Duckie in Episode 4 in the black lantern before you and Steph play on stage,
and take Pike's fear in Episode 4.
@@nicefunfairygirl that makes sense, thanks
@@nicefunfairygirl actually I had Ryan Believe me and and i didn’t have Eleanor believe me but everyone else
On the moment that Jed took Alex to mines, I thought: "Well, now he's gonna push her into it lol" BUT I DIDN'T THINK IT WOULD REALLY HAPPEN
Technically, he shot her and she fell back buuuuut- 🤷♀️🤷♀️🤷♀️🤷♀️
I thought the same thing, especially when she asked where they were and he said "In the middle of nowhere"
LITERALLY HAPPENED TO ME EXACTLY THE SAME LMAO
I was thinking don’t betray me don’t betray me and then Alex said Jed why do you sad. Okay push me in that damm hole
When I played I thought he was going to betray Alex when they were in The Black Lantern and he started asking more and more about what she knew about Typhon. But then he said "I can show you what they're hiding" and then I thought "Oh, okay he's not bad he's going to show us" and then I stopped suspecting him since he was helping. And then he pulled a gun lol.
The way the line "I just need my big brother" is delivered shatters my heart every time
The twist of her dad being a miner was really good.
Well it was no surprise since gabe came to haven only to find his father or a clue of where he went?
I honestly felt like it was unnecessary for reasons you can read over in the this reply section. Like seriously, leaving out her dad wouldn't make the shock of the discovery and story any different. The miners by themselves was enough...
@@Player-jh4ko for me personally it kinda shows why jed was so nice to gabe
@@Player-jh4ko it wasnt random at all. Thats literally the whole reason gabe was in haven in the first place
@@krisma3526 I guess, but it wouldn't make a difference if he was there just to be there.
And yet we didn't get the ending we really deserved- dating both Steph and Ryan, and traveling for your music and returning home to Haven.
Catch up with the times, its 2021. Women have jobs, non heterosexuals can date and marry, and ethical non monogamy is becoming increasingly mainstream. As long as everyone involved is informed and consenting to the situation, it is perfectly acceptable to be romantically involved with multiple people.
And from Ryan and Steph's personalities, I don't think either of them would have a problem with it as long as they were all aware they were involved.
@croma 136 It's not cheating if all parties are okay with it. It's not frequent, but there are people who relationships like that. It's called a throuple.
I jokingly said that too…
@@Sumguyinavan_ i think they would have a problem with it, lets be honest how many poly couples are actually there ? Not everything need to be... Ya know, at least we have the option to date a girl or boy.. Haveing a poly relationship just feels awkward rly, dosent matter the year, but eh, not my problem
THIS!!! 😭😭😭
Alex Chen is one of the most aesthetically pleasing looking game characters I ever saw in my life.
There's a fair bit of truth in those words you typed, lassy.
@@aromusbaspet9032 I'm nonbinary.
@@Stevonniewolf3113 And I have a knack for putting my foot in my mouth. Sorry.
@@Stevonniewolf3113 LMAOOOOOOOOO had to be the funniest reply
@@tecnonecto How am I doing that, dude?
I wanted so badly to see Alex and Steph perform together, finish a tour around the US and then decide to go back home to Haven Springs for a break. Best of both worlds.
I got the ending to leave with Steph, but when the cutscene happened I was so mad that it didn't show them together playing
@@tanndlin1184 frrrr I was sitting there waiting for them to play together or show their home in Berlin or whatever the other places were. Maybe show a quick date scene but all we got was one short scene. Made me really upset tbh
I loved the part where Gabe tells Alex what will happen if she stays in Haven. Kinda touched my heart and shed a couple of tears during those scenes...
Yeeeees, that was brilliant
Absolutely! I felt the same... It's kinda beautiful and bittersweet. But leaves you with a more positive feeling than for example Lis 1 or 2. I just loved this scene and only came to this video to rewatch it.
the fact i got the ending where no one helped me. watching this felt like a punch to the face im so redoing my run
Lmao I know , kinda crazy to me that only Steph was by my side
Only Steph and Eleanor sided with me smh I even dated Ryan and everything but no one else did
Duckie Jason pike and steph had my back Eleanor Ryan and Charlotte didn’t 😂 after all I done for em tryna do right by everybody felt like a slap in the face. This game overall was incredible they did their thing with this one I’m going to play through it again a couple more times and steph was incredible in this game.
Make sure you do all character side mission and most importantly don't always mess with people's emotions especially ethans mom and also alter pikes emotions....just be helpful and nice
@@williamkiesling6207 gotchu I’m finna run it back again
While Jed being the antagonist was predictable for me since I suspected him from the beginning, I was not expecting the mine scandal to connect with Alex’s family, I was crying hard at that scene
Yup same boat here
Personally I don't understand the mine scandal involving her dad. Alex says 11 years ago, radio says 12 years ago right after. I'm pretty sure that Alex is 21 and her dad left when she was 11 or 12 so none of it adds up timeline wise.
@@HarlequinNova Well if her dad went straight to Haven and got a job like immediately at the mines and the collapse happened soon after that then (getting into nitty gritty stuff with Alex’s exact age and the radio rounding the number up) there would have been a very small window of opportunity for it to work. Sad though, the dad left his children, got a job and within a month or two died in the mines.
Completely get where you’re coming from though, the time didn’t match up when I first heard it either.
@@HarlequinNova I think the mine scandal with her dad was a nice touch. I think it shows that he didn't leave because he didn't want them but to try and find a better job and have money to take care of them. Also when it shows all the sent back letters from Alex its because the whole time he was really dead and he never got a chance to read them. Maybe he would have written back. But that's just my take.
THIS. THIS IS IT. Plot Twist of villain wasn't as hard as Jefferson but the twist of the protagonist's story was IT.
The shots of the ending where Alex stays in Haven and isn't dating Steph OR Ryan are possibly one of the saddest things I've ever seen. It feels SO empty. She's got this half smile on her face the whole time but she's basically alone in a town that has some of the worst memories in her life, and some of best memories that are history now. Owning a record store her friend used to own. (A friend she surely misses a lot) Living where her brother used to live. Being near Ryan who she may or may not even be friends with. Apparently not being much of friends with Charlotte. Other than Ethan, we hardly see ANYONE we know by name. That's like... possibly my worst nightmare. It just feels so gut wrenchingly lonely. Being right in the middle of what was so full of life and relationships, but now is devoid of all of that. Maybe I'm in the minority here, though. It was just really hard to watch that, even though it wasn't the ending I got.
I'm disappointed that there isn't an ending where they like, stay friends? Steph leaves but it's after telling Alex she's going to do so, and they keep in touch with postcards and text. (Or maybe Alex helps manage her social media page.) You become close friends with Ryan, but it's not romantic. You go hiking and biking together sometime. He becomes an official park ranger protecting the wildlife and mountains. Ducky buys the bar as a personal venture (and because the place has meant a lot to him.) He hires Mac to help run it. It chills Mac out and he actually becomes pretty reliable. When Eleanor's condition worsens, Riley is forced to close the flower shop. Her and Mac make amends and she moves into what was your place. Riley works at a server at night and does day school on her laptop. (maybe they have a baby?) Charlotte contacts an attorney and wins a case against Typhon for child endangerment. She moves out of Haven Springs and to a suburb outside Denver to make a better life for Ethan. There's a growing art scene for herself and Ethan meets guys at a local game store that think a kid making comics is really cool. Where Alex ends up depends on how you answered her question earlier about what she wanted to do. If you answered 'make music' you get the existing game ending, if you answered 'helping people' the game ends with you back in the therapist office with a voice asking questions, but this time as we zoom out, we see that Alex is now the therapist saying she understands what it's like to an embarrassed and uncomfortable youth.
@@chriserony I like pretty much all of this a lot. Great ideas.
Tbh, I think the game designers wanted a slightly ambiguous or not fully fleshed out ending. It did make for a very bittersweet, visceral and real feeling ending. It felt natural. It wasn't some fantasy where everyone is perfectly happy. We don't know what happens to all of them, but we know where Alex goes next. Just like we would if we were her. It's kinda sad, but that's how life is sometimes, even in the good moments. I think that's what they were going for. It definitely had a very triumphant, but lonely feeling to it. Even when you did end with a partner.
However, I have to say, I'd lean towards something closer to what you have. Maybe somewhere in between what we got and that perfect story book ending you've described. I would like to know what happens to the other characters. That they're ok, and that they stay part of Alex's life. It's sad to think she just makes all those relationships and up and leaves to never speak to any of them again, which is kinda the picture the end paints.
Great ideas, though, again.
Ah, there it is. The saddest ending. There’s always one thats the saddest in these games
@@chriserony I think its implied Steph and Alex stay in touch
How do you get this ending? I thought all you have to do is not give either of them a rose but that didn't work.
For those that are wondering: “Why didn’t they back up alex”. Here’s how to convince everyone.
SPOILERS FOR ALL OF THE CHOICES
(This was mainly from the Gamerant site of the choices.)
Charlotte:
Convince her to not sign the affidavit sent by Typhon corporation.
Do not take her anger.
(If you had taken her anger)
You may notice that she has no “emotions” for the rest of the game. Making her not back up Alex, this also causes to make you rage at Steph and Ryan later, which makes Ryan less likely to help you at the end.
Eleanor:
You need to tell the poor old lady of Gabes death, as she wouldn’t show up for the lantern sign off making Riley realise she’s got memory loss.
You also have to not tell Riley of Eleanors disease throughout the game as this would be a betrayal towards Eleanor’s wish for Riley’s Dreams
Pike:
Well this would be to take Pike’s fear of Typhon and to not sign the document, giving him the bravery to face Diane and Jed.
Reginald McAllister III (Duckie):
To convince duckie to believe your claims, you would have to dance with him during the Festival, as he mourns his dead wife in the black Lantern
I think that is not entirely true, I convinced Charlotte to sign the agreement and in the end she supported me and told Diane that she would not sign the contract :D
@@BeatlesMx Yeah, it's mainly the anger option. If you take her anger away, she won't support you at the end.
Good job me i did everything wrong and no one back me up except Duckie 🙂
Nice work but I told Charlotte to not sign the affidavit and still she supported me (I did not take her anger away though)
@@pexsel4184 so you basically did the same thing here? Sorry was there a grammar mistake?
What LiS-Fans want:
- Saving Chloe and the bay
- A happyend for Rachel
- A free and happy pack of wolves
- Dating Steph and Ryan, going on adventure and coming back home.
😔 If only we could have it all 😭
And bringing Esteban back to life too
average lis fan ignoring the 2nd game
@@h.f6364 Sorry, finished LiS 2 today. Edited. ;)
I just finished listc today and I literally cannot stop thinking about how bad I want this as I try for a 'perfect' walkthrough. 😭
Gabe's fine. He'll walk it off.
That game really tricked me. I thought Charlotte would kill herself if I didn't take her anger away and after I messed her up I thought I should never do anything like that again because she was so messed up. So I didn't take the fear of Pike, which was wrong as well :(. And I was worried about Eleanor so I told Righley the truth. Only Duckie and Steph backed me but I still stayed because I thought the people would still be around me after the truth came out. Seems wrong now as well. Kinda sad actually.
same haha but sometimes its like.. she had to cool down.. and hear what she was saying 'i hate my son?"
Aww damn! That's unfortunate. I totally get how you would think that way with Charlotte. I thought the same thing at first.
Nah I knew Charlotte would work it out. There were major differences between Charlotte and Kate's feelings so that's why I didn't think Charlotte would kill herself. Kate was depressed, and I know Charlotte was also depressed but she was fuming mad lol. And I felt like Alex taking her anger would not be fair to Alex either. I took Pike's fear because I just wanted him to stop being a pansy. His whinning was getting on my nerves. In my game play, everyone took Alex's side.
that is exactly what I did as well! I was so frustrated when I figured out that we should have done the opposite with Charlotte and Pike :'O I mean, Charlotte even said the anger was enough to hate her own son. How should we knowwwww!!! I got Eleanor on my side fortunately, but the whole time I kept thinking "Hmmm maybe I should have told Riley to stay instead??? damn" If the game makes you worried sick with each decision you know it's good hahahah
@TheFrozenFire The same thing happened to me !
At this point I am questioning the emotional intelligence of this comment section. Jed is Ryan's father. His doubts don't make him a bad character. I even think that the game would have messed up big time, if they made Ryan believe her as if this was nothing.
Honestly, put yourself in Ryan's shoes and think about how you would feel, if someone called your parent a murderer? The person that is called "the heart of the town" and that took care of you for all your life. I personally would think twice and most likely wouldn't believe the other person as well.
Yeah, I also like how if he does believe you his first instinct is to try and get Jed to confess so that he stops making it worse for himself (and still shows compassion and love for him), it seems way more realistic for a father son relationship
100% agree. im trying not to be biased bc i like ryan but it's just rational. he's jed's son, and this whole game is about emotions. even when ryan believes alex, its not like he full-on accuses his father of murder.
nah he still sucks
@@idrk3707 Ryan was such a bad character for me after he cut Gabe rope I was done
Yeah especially since knowing Alex but a week. I mean, I get they got super close within that week but can empathize both sides
To this day, Life is strange 2 is the only game in the Lis franchise where your choices throughout the game actually matter and affect the ending. But nobody talks about that.
True, yet for me it was the least enjoyable. Most life is Strange games should be about the choices during your journey not "how many endings do we have".
90% of games in general can't do more than 3-4 true well balanced endings.
I prefer influencing/changing characters during the game than having 10 endings.
Yes. It is my favourite one among all 4, but sadly it is hated by so many people
@@Ssecave but that’s literally the point of a choice based game. What’s the point of making all of these decisions in a game (where your choices are supposed to matter) if it ends the same way? They’re supposed to be about making decisions that affect how your journey will comes to a close. Which is why games like Detroit: Become Human and Until Dawn are so highly praised. Everything you do determines the outcome of the story. And Lis 2 does just that. Whereas Lis 1 and BTS fails to do so.
@@poett8875 because it doesn't have to be about the destination, it can just be about the journey. I cared being able to choose what Alex was wearing for example, even though it had zero impact. It was still enjoyable.
I’m guessing you haven’t played Detroit or heavy rain
The biggest problem I had with the endings were that they weren't very conclusive. If you stay in Haven, they don't even show Alex interacting with all the friends she made (aside from a few like Ethan).
Also why isn't there an ending where Steph, Ryan, and Alex are all together as a really cool group of 3 friends? If you choose a romance option, one either leaves on the bus or just disappears completely even though he is still present in Haven.
The game suffers so much from runtime, the game gets really good in episodes 2, 3, 4. But by the time you've started to really enjoy the game and attach yourselves to Haven's residents, the game ends with a pretty bad and inconclusive ending.
Still, the game was pretty good and had its moments.
Ryan wants to stay in Haven. Steph wants adventure. The only factor which can change their base desire is Alex.
The real problem with the Haven endings include that people like Dickie or Rick are not included but also that the endings lack a personal connection to Alex. Gabe essentially narrates that ending and if you choose it then Alex walks off happily to it without any additional context.
One could argue that the entirety of chapter 5 is the ending, and that is actually correct. As a whole it is well executed, but the very end falls a little flat.
Honestly I wanted a poly ending
I chose "seek adventure" hoping Alex and Steph would form a band and travel with Ryan as their groupie. :( too bad only Ryan followed.
Agreed. Was pretty disappointed there wasn’t much closure to the Haven endings. And yes the run time scarifies a lot and makes the ending feel rushed. You hit the nail on the head with that last statement. Finished each episode usually in one sitting but with the other games I’d usually have to split the episodes up.
I think its implied you still stay friends even in long distance. I mean I don’t think they would just cut contact lol
When the room went dark and Alex started talking to Jed, that was so eerie. I don't know why so many people complained about this game. I really love all the LiS games, but this one was absolutely incredible.
fr like he was in her trance
@@cyxthi4 i think her powers put everyone in a trace
I just finished it. Personally Life is Strange 1 and True Colors are the best for me. Then Before the Storm and finally LiS 2 which is... too much of a political speech and that ruined it.
I finished thia today ans i agree.
I never heard of this game until they gave it to me on Christmas.
Boy, im still wiping the tears away
Before she got shot and fell it gives me a lot of feel when Chloe and Max went to the Junkyard just to find Mark Jefferson 😂 like I knew this was going to happen but why?! He was so nice! I now see why there's true colors at the end of this too lol
yeah I new it too, like when I saw Alex going near the ledge I mentally said " and now is the time for Jed to push us in the mine, after all here is the perfect place to kill someone and no one will ever know"(look what happen, I swear my brain is spoiling me XD) then I heard the gun click and instantly got Jefferson vibes... Honestly this games are gaving me trust issues with people XD
I agree with that
They do foreshadowing in chapter 3 so i wasn't suprised
Actually the LARP play did gave us a hint who is the bad guy. I mean after Alex and Ethan brought 3 magic rock, the king played by Jed turned out to be bad, just like the way he reveals himself. Also after the LARP, Alex commented that she has never known that Jed can play the bad guy that good.
Next game has to break the norm of having the nice trustworthy guy end up as the villain, granted Before the Storm made Rachel's dad go back and forth from perceived womanizer to sorrowful father to dirty dealing douchebag.
I'm honestly surprised by this game's endings. It's the only life is strange game with what I would consider a happy ending
this game felt really small but really focused.. which is pretty rare. it was a small game.. but its nice there is finally a happy ending..
in a time of apathy, we need to learn to be empathetic.
and ryan is cute asf so i forgive him lol.
and for those that like steph, shes great too lol
@@npcimknot958 Agreed. It kinda reminded me of Life is strange 1 too with the small scale and the murder mystery vibe
@Roniixx No, this game literally ends with the protagonist succeeding and not sacrificing anything. The other games end with character deaths or characters making bad choices
@Roniixx Which is preventable and nothing much when compared to either letting a best friend or your whole town die (first game) or ending up seperated from your brother, getting killed, going to prison or not letting your brother get a proper childhood/life (second game). This game ends with the protagonist having a happy life with the posibillity of no important characters getting hurt
@Roniixx HUH? WAIT HOW COULD THEY END UP DEPRESSED?
Me: Takes away Charlotte’s anger and it backfires
Me: Doesn’t take Pike’s fear and it backfires
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THATS EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED TO ME. I was like “nah something bad happened last time”
I’m happy I didn’t take Charlotte’s anger then w
NO LIKE LITERALLY 😭😭
I hated Charlotte she pissed me off lol how can you blame everyone....shit happens life is unpredictable sometimes
@@joshuasandoval455 exactly, I knew she was mad and grieving but that's not a free bitch pass? You blamed your own CHILD and everyone else around you?! I took her anger away and I'm happy and mad that I did because I don't think she needs to be mad at people around her if they didn't really play a part in Gabe's death.
I'm disappointed that this game has only 2 major endings. Although Life is Strange 2 got so much hate for some reason, it has the best choices & consequences mechanism, & you had to choose everything carefully. LIS2 beats the other installments in this regard
I have to agree. Compared to all LIS games, I think True Colors endings are very underwhelming
Well I prefer to enjoy a awesome journey and have a good ending than have a boring journey with so many endings which does not matter I'll only see 1 ending anyway the choices isn't about endings in true color it is about how it affects the other ones just like LiS 1 an how they feel about you
@@samuelsouza7670 LIS2 didn't have a boring journey imo and the ending definitely matter bc they are drastically different based on what our choices are. In LIS1 choices don't really matter bc in the end we can choose our own ending, just like in True Colors, but LIS1 endings feels more impactful than True Colors. Despite all that, I really enjoyed the journey we went through in True Colors and had a lot of fun playing it
They should have an ending in which if you don't manage to get anyone to side with you, your accusations get buried, Typhoon keeps thriving and mining even more in Haven , Jed gets to continue his life as it was and Alex never gets her justice. its a reeealy sad ending but i think it would work. Deck nine would be like "thats what you get for messing it up with everyone and not doing the side missions" kind of like in Mass Effect 2 in the suicide mission where all your companions can die because you didn't meet the requirements
@@insomnia3454 yess more consequences
I got Steph, Duckie, Pike, and Eleanor to back me up. I gotta say, I expected Ryan not to back me up considering Jed is his father, but Charlotte not backing me up felt like a punch in the gut. I did not see it coming.
Seems like we both had the same ending. Did you leave haven springs or did you stay?
Did you forgive Jed?
@@Crylhound I forgave Jed (but screw Diane), and stayed in Haven Springs.
@@arachniteer I took the risk and went with Steph to Salem. Ghost gabe's last speech on the roof convinced me to leave.
I am pretty happy with my ending.
@@Crylhound same. I decided to leave because since alex came into heaven all she had happen to her were tragedies, going far as possible is what I'd do personally.
@@skeletoninyourbody9896 what did you pick? Salem, Berlin or the ocean?
Jed attempting to kill Alex was so predictable. The moment he said he'll show her the secret i was like "why not just tell about it?" and when i saw it's dark outside when they left i was sure he's gonna do something bad
We knew Jed was the bad guy right from the trailer to be frank. Only sad part about the game for me
I actually believed that he might do good though to be honest. I hated Diane so much but Jed felt like a father figure. A part of me felt a little suspicious but I thought nah but that gunshot.... I just can't believe how selfish that guy could've been. And the fact that Alex's father was in the mine working under Jed's management, I never saw it coming.
If anything I expected to find Gabe alive in the Mine Until Dawn style but I just was never expecting the revelation that came.
@@diamondruby7257 i didn't even watch the trailer honestly, just the way he suddenly said that he knows what Typhon is hiding... And instead of telling Alex, wanted to show her... It was VERY suspicious
@@arnon85 yeah I was like ATLEAST BRING YOUR FRIENDS!!
Jefferson 2.0 vibes were strong
The scene where Alex uses the last match to light the lamp is so much more meaningful if you choose to not tell gabe about your powers because he tells you the story about the match
🥺
What is it out if curiosity?
You can unlock that memory, no? By using your sense on the match?
@@lukesoddlife is the last match he got from the reformatory, he went through hell to get it, when he got out from there he used it pretty fast, probable doing bad stuff, but he could never use the last one, cuz he didn't want to go back there and because he felt that he could need it
Not true, you find that match regardless...
Because it ends up being in the locked chest in your room when you have to go get the Bard Hat. Alex automatically gets it.
Life is Strange is definitely one of the best game franchises ever! The feeling of playing is always so impactful and emotional that you really feel like you are the character.
Was expecting everyone to turn on me since I secretly like being distrusted and proven right, so having everyone believe me except Duckie was a huge surprise 😂
Wait so did Ryan believe you as well?
@@MiMi-tx4hq I think Ryan only believes you before Jed's confession if you convinced everyone else. I got only Eleanor and Duckie to believe me. Steph will always side with you. Charlotte has 2 keys, she'll believe you if you don't take her anger, but she can't help you if you made her take Typhon's money. You must take Pike's fear to get him on your side. Dance with Duckie before meeting Steph/Ryan on the roof during the fest, and keep Eleanor's secret from Riley throughout the game to earn her trust.
Because I chose to romance Steph, I didn't see the forgive Ryan choice.
@@jecrex8349 Are you sure about Charlotte? I told her not to take the money from Typhon, and got the choice of her believing me but not being able to help. Maybe it’s the opposite somehow?
I had everyone believe me which I didn’t expect
@@cherokee7896 same. I didn't take her anger and i didn't tell her to take the money.. she tried to help at the end, but she couldn't :/
At least i had Steph and Duckie on my side. Riley found out about Eleanors Alzheimer by herself when Eleanor didn't show up to Gabes funeral, because i didn't told her about Gabes death. And Pike was such a coward.. to scared to stand up for the truth :/
I'm glad they gave us the option to romance, both Steph and Ryan are a bit dorky and super nerdy but they are good people. Personally I felt Steph is way cooler than Ryan
i thought both are cool, but steph imo fits alex better. i saw a lets play where alex dated ryan and they we're awkwardly talking about going hiking haha
Initially, I felt like Alex should have been with Ryan BUT I shipped Steph with Alex and no regrets!
I (sadly) chose Ryan. Big mistake after he didn't back me up -___- . Even Gabe told Alex, that Steph would leave at some point. So the best decision for me ist to be with Steph and stay in Heaven. She would then be with Alex together and Ryan would still be their friend --> all 3 stay together.
@@martsien9627 yeah her and steph were a better match, mostly cause of the music stuff
I definitely like Steph better, because she kept her promise no matter what you to do her in the game, and she has Alex's back. I understand Jed is Ryan's father but after everything, it's still a bit insane, Like Steph said, Alex almost died. That much was clear by her appearance. I just think that Steph was more loyal for that, even if that wasn't her dad. Though I like Ryan as a character, I don't like him for Alex
really enjoyed the steph endings, loved how she'd back you up no matter what. i picked the leave with steph ending though, while the visions in the staying option was nice, it feels kinda sad to see them just stay there and give up on their dreams, considering how steph wanted to leave, and alex also has huge potentials for her music career, i feel like having new adventures and meeting new people with steph would be nicer.
about the game overall, it definitely started strong and i really enjoyed all of the chapters, but the fifth chapter was a bit underwhelming, even though the start where they uncovered alex's backstory was really touching, i was hoping for some bigger secrets and shit to happen in the mines instead of alex just finding a way out off scene and heading straight to the bar, also the fact that only steph and ryan cared about how she's literally bleeding from getting shot and falling to the mines.
this is the only correct answer 😩
I did steph's route too! I chose to stay in haven though because I thought that they'd had all their whole lives to leave and start another adventure. Felt like they both deserved to chill a lil lmao
I feel like the ends were open ended for that reason though. Like staying in Haven doesn’t mean the opportunity of travel is completely closed off and the opportunity of travel doesn’t mean they can’t come back every once and a while. The game isn’t tied in a neat now because life goes on beyond what the player gets to interact with. The story is over for us but just beginning for Alex.
Exactly this
Meh the endings majorly focus on love interests and if everyone backs you up or not but all leads on the same final scene.
There should be an ending where
1. Alex didn't get her justice and Typhon wins the battle.
2. Alex gets her justice, but becomes emotionless due to everything she's been through.
AND many more
Agreed. The whole game being a conspiracy/mystery doesn’t make sense when no matter how well you investigate it and successfully convince people - none of it matters because Alex uses some deus ex Machina power to mind control Jed into confessing even if you’ve made all the wrong choices. Typhon can’t win, so much for their power and reach.
Exactly! I don't hate Alex or anything, but giving her the ol' good happy ending no matter what is such a setback. And saying "Ohh but Alex deserved a happy ending so it's all good!" is kind of dumb, if you consider Max, Chloe, Rachel or Sean & Daniel. That's the point of these games - all those people deserve a fully happy ending! But they can't get it because that's just how life is. It's imperfect and hardly fair.
@@johnsk.j6894 you didn't pay attention, depending of your choices typhon ends bad or REALY BAD, the thing is Diana was already putting evidence together to leave typhon, and jed was always felling guilty as we see from his note and the jacked that he keped besides other things, as I saw depending of your choice diana and jed are used as scapegoat, typhon loses money and a new president is designed but this is it, and typhon looks like is going to "end well" or diana shits typhon and ends up as a justice hero, jed name is not in the sites, just local news(but basically nothing bad is said about him, is just " a shock"), typhon loses money a new president is designed but soon quits (leaving the feeling they are to much fucked up for saving) either way Alex is receiving a lot of calls from the press and there is a lawyer trying to convince her to shit typhon but it just don't get along with who she is get money from her dead brother, but besides that what bad ending did you expected to happen besides "she doesn't have anyone, her brother is dead, no friends, no family, in a town full of persons who didn't believed in her or leaving the town with the only remaining memory of her bother and his hope for her to have a home behind and againg being in the streets not having a home or place to return living a unstable life with a power that mostly make her mentally unstable", it felt more real to me than the others were "the city is destroyed" or a young adult alone is the only one to discover and put together proufs of a conspiracy and ends up destroying a big company
@Reveluv "In LiS2 you didn't get attached to the characters, there were only Sean and his brother" Speak for yourself, lol.
And are you seriously trying to compare the endings of LiS1 or LiS2 to TC? How is the dilemma of leaving vs staying in any way on the same level of significance? Not to mention the choice can be easily reversed by our character in the future. Alex can always either come back to Haven or leave later. That is not the case for Max or Sean (or even Chloe in BtS with exposing James to Rachel for good). It's literally weaker than the previous games.
Plus, each ending has this cheerful undertone that Alex got Gabe his justice and now gets a happy/normal life. There's no actual sacrifice, no serious dilemma, no price for getting something else. Alex's investigation ends up successful and she can just move on. That's just too happy for LiS.
And I love how you just *had to* specify that Alex leaves with Steph. She left with Ryan in my game and she can also leave alone. That's what we're saying. The main differences in how the endings play out is your romance. I'm not saying that's not sweet, but it's a bit too flat. There should've been more to that if the game was supposed to be just as powerful in its message as the previous games.
@Reveluv I don't consider Blood Brothers a happy ending, but based on my beliefs it's closest to being a happy one and it's certainly most satisfying for me. I'm unable to follow your logic here because I don't believe you can compare the message of LiS2 endings to the endings of TC. Alex succeeded and didn't have to sacrifice anything personally. She can just move on and the endings here specifically make sure to show that.
Sean and Daniel, on the other hand, don't get that. In Blood Brothers, they get *some* justice and stay together but they have to keep surviving on their own. They faced so much injustice and, in the end, they *still* have to sacrifice something, be it freedom, staying together, or a safe life. That's what makes the message of LiS2 so powerful. You fought for something, and yet you can't come out the other side whole, because life is simply imperfect. Same with LiS1 and Max either giving up on her best friend or a whole town of people.
The endings of TC strive more for showing you that you *can* make life perfect, if you try hard enough. And it's not like I can't appreciate the message, it's just a bit old and weak to me. The argument "but Alex lost her brother" doesn't really serve anything as well. Rachel died. The brothers lost their dad. Does life care? No. Max and Sean still have to make imperfect decisions and sacrifice something major.
Damn my boy Ryan was done dirty for most of these. Alex breaks up with him if romanced and/or he's left alone without Alex or Steph after finding out his dad is a killer. RIP
For real though, both of the love interests were great. Steph and Alex are adorable, and watching this made me think that Steph was the best option for a better ending, but I really enjoyed the depth of Ryan's character throughout. I chose him first and it stung when he didn't take my side in C5, but I totally get it. That's his father, it wouldn't be so easy. All of the characters feel real because they are so human. And because it's a game about empathy, it does an amazing job showing that.
i somehow got ryan to support alex while dating steph, only person not to support alex was duckie
Another thing just occurred to me about Jed and Ryan.... They both found themselves in situations where they were forced to make a quick decision to leave someone behind in order to save themselves and others - Jed in the mines, Ryan with Gabe's rope tied to Alex. It's a great parallel that isn't particularly obvious at first glance. What makes them different is that Jed's mistake in judgement led to his situation being caused in the first place (and in fact was indirectly responsible for Ryan being in a similar one later).
no? in the memory, it shows that his workers repeatedly ask him to lay off, bc its not safe, and he keeps pushing to force them to work, then runs and prioritizes himself and leaves others to die, then covers it up, while ryan isnt responsible for his situation, and chose to save one person compared to losing both of them, he's also honest about it and blames himself
I’m just amazed at how her glasses stayed on during her fall
Maybe they're glued on
Her glasses are the true powers she has lol
After watching this just makes me think Steph is the better friend and love interest.
I would love to see them scissor
@@dkthedevilll what's a scissor? Why does it sound like a-
@@oneperson1772 Are u innocent or not
@@dkthedevilll ew
@@m0r1553y It's a.. sEcs position isn't it
I don't feel particularly mad about the ""choices not really mattering much" because all the games are very different in regards to the choice system. They differ based on how all the meta-human characters' powers work along with the story.
Max could go back in time so of course the consequences weren't as major. I think the point of that whole system was "you can't fix everything and you can't save everyone" which I'm thinking could be a part of the lesson of the game. It'll always hold a place in my heart, even with its flaws.
The choice system in LIS 2 definitely had the most impact in terms of consequences. Daniel's telekinesis is more of an offensive power and Daniel is a kid. The choices Sean makes throughout the game not only majorly influence him but also seriously affect his little brother. They determine how Daniel uses his really (possibly) dangerous power throughout the game. You could tell Daniel to do or not do something and based on the choices you make he could actually completely do the opposite of what you want him to do. That's one of the reasons there are so many different outcomes by the end of it. Man that game made me cry like a bitch. It's a shame some people can't and/or refuse to connect with it enough to enjoy it.
In this one, mega empath Alex here, is able to influence people by tapping into their emotions. It makes sense that the way she helps (or "helps" depending on the choice) is what affects the consequences at the end especially. The council sides with you if you help them emotionally. Eleanor sides with you because you helped her because you were honest with her and because you kept her trust by not telling Riley about her condition. Duckie sides with you because you help him with his wife. Charlotte sides with you if you just leave her and let her process her anger by herself. Pike sides with you because you take away his fear and give him courage- whatever whatever-
All the systems and endings differ depending on the game and in my opinion they all work pretty well with their respective stories. It doesn't feel too formulaic and I can fuck with that. I love this franchise. I feel like they've really improved since the first one.
i can agree to this. personally, i like the impact/consequences of choices but i can definitely see where they were trying to go with this game. my only complaint is the short endings :( otherwise i feel like they did so good with this game!
an amazing correlation and analysis of the games. i really enjoyed your thoughts
The most touching part of this story is without a doubt the scene where alex picks apart Jeds fear, anger and sadness. It was truly a masterpiece and not gonna lied I was so close to tearing up.
*After the ending*
Alex : Arcadia bay sounds like a fun place, so why did you leave?
Steph :
*Umm...there was this trash talking deliquent girl who used to hang out with a prom queen who told me that the prom queen was single but it turns out she was lying, then our photography professor turned out to be creep who would drug young girls & photoshoot them, but then the prom queen died in captivity which turned him into a serial killer.*
*Then a few months after the deliquent girl's childhood friend returned, dead people started coming back to life & then a massive cyclone wiped out the entire town & the professor was arrested. It was quite a scandal actually.*
Steph : No reason in particular, I just needed a fresh start.
Alex : *Reads Steph's mind*
Alex : Wtf? Did all that really happen?
Steph : Hey!! Will you stop doing that?
Alex : Okay!! Okay!! But answer the question.
Steph : Yeah...believe it or not.
Alex : Hmm....life is strange.
funny comment even if steph moved out before all the things about Jefferson come to light
I feel like there’s a parallel in this game with the way they made it a bit harder to convince one romance option like in the walking dead game where Louis would not vouch for you and many ppl hold this against these characters but like realistically guys would you believe some person you’ve only know for less than a year over your own family/best friend?
I swear i’ve said this to like 8 people already lmao
@@BazookaGamingGirl fr it really makes the other love interest look so bad for literally no reason 😔
THIS except both love interests are good in LIS true colors (I like them both with alex but I'm geared more towards steph). In TWDG, only Louis is a good love interest, violet sucks bc shes a terrible person.
@@wholethedogsout880 I’m a Louis fan as well it just sucks how much he gets hated on for the one flaw which ANY normal person would do the same violet sucks cause even though you get with her she still has a thing for Minnie and stays with her on the boat like what? And if you save Louis she fights you???
I can't get over the ending where alex doesn't romance steph or ryan and nobody backs up her up. it's too sad 😭
umm.. the endings are still not much different. It only matters in a relationship-thingy, and nothing happens with Jed or Typhon. I think LIS 2 is still the only game in the franchise where the choices really matter.
It's fitting though, with her abilities revolving around emotions.
@@sKcob true, how would there be so many endings since she can’t do the same things as the last protag. All she can influence is the current moment.
Agreed.
Too bad the rest of that game is a mess. True colors is the best in the franchise I think. They really nailed the nuance that was kinda missing in the other games
lis 2 is still the worse game overall
finished the game 5 minutes ago and i loved every minute of it. i just wanted to see what else could’ve happened
Alex's smile and check her glasses move is so adorable.
Yeah same too
To those of you who were also not satisfied like I was, here's how I see the true ending:
picking a card mattered and if your choice was the ocean then shortly after the bus ride you get to see them both driving together by the ocean's coastside with the song: "Sea Oleena - Swimming Story" playing in the background and a little bit after we're shown scenes of them performing live at the beach before one day returning back to Haven after having experienced several years of adventures around the world. I encourage everyone who read this message to leave a comment with a song that they believe would fit even better the scenery of this kind of wholesome ending.
Yesss this is what I was thinking. They're young and working in a record shop in a small town for the rest of your life seemed ... Dull. So traveling and adventuring a little and then returning to haven was my head canon too.
@@Proudly_So yeah but think about Ryan, he loses his dad, his best friend and now 2 of his close friends.
@@thepaperninja3123 yeah that did suck about that choice. I actually also though why can't they stay for a little bit and then just buy a motorhome so they can travel together all three of them 🥺 And after that return.
I'm a little confused. I did choose the ocean card (with Steph). But for me, the ending cut to moments before her performance (where she gets a message from Steph). I was replaying that particular scene (because I chose the other ending first, but everything else was the same), but since it was the last scene, replaying it should not screw up any of the changes I made in the previous scenes.
@@sharif47 You have to choose Restart instead of Replay if you want to see the whole ending.
It speaks volumes that Steph stands by you no matter what while Ryan can betray you even if you're romancing him.
I think it would be the other way around if Jed was Stephs dad.
Say he chooses to believe Alex and she ends up being wrong. That would tear a family apart… I think it makes sense that he’s really hard to convince. The game would be a waste of time if they didn’t put so much accuracy in emotions. How do you not realize how challenging it would be for a son to accuse his own father of murder just because a girl he has a little crush on said so…
It takes a lot to go against the person who cared for you, because it'll hurt the most. I wouldn't have been surprised if they hard-coded ryan turning on you unless you got a full 4/4 vote. When you've been lead to believe that most of your life, that your father is the heart of your town, the town that you were willing to spend your whole life in, it's gonna take a bit for that trust to break.
But, as shown here... When it does, it shatters. Tragically, if you do convince him, instead of Jed admitting to the truth, he'd rather manipulate his own son to think he was being Gaslighted.
@@josh___something I mean you need 3/4 (not counting steph) and 2 of them need to be charlotte and pike for him to believe you lol
@@BazookaGamingGirl case in point?
The ending where ryan is just crying alone is so depressing, he lost everything, same with mac.
I know I feel so bad for ryan but I 'm not feel bad for mac
Ryan had to sacrifice his best friend, found out his father was a murderer, got friendzoned by Alex, and now he sees me leaving town with my beloved Steph without me even saying a word nor looking at him.
Ouch.
They didn’t even let me speak to him
@@d4rkrises807 Yeah, I wanted to but didn't had the opportunity.
If Alex chose Steph, i think it makes sense for her to leave Haven and go on an adventure. If she's with Ryan, best option is to stay.
I just finished the game and I agree. I chose steph and we left to play music, makes sense to me
I had the ending were I dated Ryan but he didn't believe me, so I chose to think about the relationship. Then I chose to leave Haven and I could not imagine that he will really go with me. Otherwise maybe I would have thought about the last decision a bit longer. I think now just Alex is happy but Ryan isn't. I guess if I stayed, it would be the other way around. I think the game wants us to choose Steph.
Am I the only one that thought Jed would be the bad guy from the initial trailer release?
I literally didn’t allow myself to like him because he seems like the type to want to be in charge and get violent when he is challenged. Obviously his personality was different than that somewhat, but I think the twist was somewhat predictable. Other than that this game was amazing & they added a lot more to the ending which kinda made up for the predictability.
I agree with you. I knew it right from the beginning that something is wrong with him, but nevertheless I was shocked when he tried to kill Alex 😂
Especially given they double down on him seeming shady in the trailer by having him be revealed as secretly the villain in the LARP
@@farinaaa Same, I still got chills during that scene even though I expected it to happen at some point lmao
I knew the old guy was the bad guy because he had guilt all around him
not jed but diane for me!
i feel so empty inside after ending... Am I alone? the games with choices are the best!
Same here
I need more :(
Felt so good in haven and at the springfestival
@@EkoAtioN ikr? i forgot about reality for a moment during that show
@@EkoAtioN but anyway earlier parts were more emotional for me, in this one i had moments of sadness but didn't cry even once, do you agree with me?
@@Devusowsky Yea i liked the first life is strange the most.
But i kinda felt so home and chilled in haven & at the springfestival for example. The vibe was soooo cool omg.. also to visit the little city by night.. or even just look for riley and duckie😪😂
Just felt kinda home like max in the academy.. idk.
Cant wait for wavelenghts and i hope we can visit haven again with steph.
Just beeing in that record store would be a liiiittle little bit boring for me. Or not boring.. just not as nice as outside in haven or in the black latern haha.
@@EkoAtioN that's one the reason i picked "stay in haven" option, cause i felt home either
Man this game is amazing. I loved all the characters. The voice acting is incredible
I wish the game was longer! I liked the idea of Alex staying in Haven because that's where her brother found his new life and her father also lived there for a time as well. And now they are both buried there. It feels right that she has found her life there. It's as if she was 'called' there by her father. I see Alex as someone who needs 'family' and to belong somewhere, and she can stay connected to Charlotte and Ethan. In my imagination she opens a consult office to counsel people with her empath powers. haha! Ryan was my choice and he backed Alex. His dad was a gaslighter though, so it was probably hard for him to do.
okay I take these LIS stories way too seriously.
I wish you could fast forward or walk faster. 😂 Lacks replayability because they turned a 5 hour game into a 10 hour game by making you slow.
This game gave me an incredible experience and a major self evaluation check, but one of the best things it gave me was more songs for my playlists. Every song in this game is played in the right way, in the right time, even in the credits!!!
We won't ever know unless we dish out 80$ for a story telling game since we can't hear the music on the playthroughs here. They were quick to push the no music "streamer mode" but haven't done anything about copyright takedowns. This game without the music is utterly disappointing and they should know better.
Tbh its worth the price. It has a fair share of replay and is very fleshed out despite it being short. Plus the music has been uploaded online by dedicated fans into a big playlist, but if you want to hear some of the original music made just for the game, look up the 1hr video of stephs radio and for good reason on the music copyright. If you were to stream it, you'd get with like 17 strikes since a lot of outside music is used
@@diamehikoru2 its on xbox game pass
Alex true superpower is surviving a 60 ft deep hole
It helped that she didn’t just fall ALL the way down without stopping, plus hitting some of those boards on the way down slowed her decent a bit as well.
This game is beautiful. Life is Strange: True Colors and everything else is one of a kind.
Not a game it's basically a movie, you got scammed
@@Blazingwheel Did you play it? Cause it was a game. It just has many cinematics. Just like most games. It was just how games like LiS, TWDG, MCSM, TWAU and more have done it. They are all still games.
110% Agreed. After Life Is Strange 2 being a disappointment for me. True Colours brought my love back to Life Is Strange. Mysteries, small town conspiracies, and well-rounded loveable characters in their own respect... that's what Life Is Strange is and Deck Nine did an amazing job with this game.
@@TheHufflepuffSaint same. I hated life is strange 2. I feel like it was a disgrace to the first one. I was skeptical about this game at first as well. Like how could they make emotional power interesting, but boy did they exceed my expectations. This game made me feel more then the other games. By the end I was almost bawling. I thought the LiS games were dying but they have been revived.
@@Blazingwheel thats the point of story based games, some people dont like to scream in a mic while being killed by 13 year olds in cod
Game was pretty, depth, fun, and the soundtrack was great, as it has become the rule in LiS games. All the characters are surprisingly easy to care about and learn more about them. The town it's really pretty, but very very small (this may be the LiS game with the smallest setting). Really nice game, but it did not make me feel that roller coaster of emotions the other ones did. It was too short and I believe the love interests' felt pushed and not natural, even Steph. Also, are we to believe that Alex, coming from a troubled past, and just recently losing her brother, the only reason for coming to Haven, can adapt so well and get along with everybody in a matter of weeks? Even Max had a handful of enemies, and she was as geek, dork, and awkward as it gets.
Maybe the problem with this game was that they tried to replicate the original that the flow of the storyline did not feel natural. Mayybe it was too short. Or maybe it was because it was developed by a different studio. Still. good game, but not the roller coaster of emotions LiS series is famous for.
I think it's heavily implied that the "troubled past" Alex had in the group home was largely due to her powers and the people around her. She internalizes emotions, but especially negative emotions like anger and sadness. And I don't imagine there was a shortage of either in the foster care system. Definitely, there's her own share of problems stemming from her personal background, but I don't think that removed from that environment, it's that unrealistic that she could get along with most of the people she meets.
I think it's just different. In a good way.
The rollercoaster was made because of the episodic format from the old games. Cliffhanger and so on helped A LOT.
The 1st game plays way different when you have access to the 5 chapters instead of waiting months to play a new one.
Same when you binge watch a TV show instead of waiting each weeks for the next episode.
Also Alex does not meet everybody in the town. Just a few of them.
The love interests are a bit forced too yeah. It's not school love/Drama anymore. They're adults so it's a bit weird to see a relationship in 3 days top.
The writing is so much better, you have to give it a credit.
First lis was written by a 13 yr old wattpad writer
This one is written after that kid grows up and learns to write
Different studios is also what made it better, both graphic and writing wise.
I'm sad there's no more different endings like in second game but I guess this game is more about characters and their relationships than everything else. Because what you do does matter on who trusts you and that way you can see if you treated the people right or not. I wish also it had more depth but I'm totally ready for lis4 from this studio, because they handled it better than dontnod.
My thoughts exactly.
Honestly this is a weird opinion for me to hear, as this is my favorite LIS game bro. The characters and storyline are soooo much better now, they are sacrificing play time maybe but for a more complex and interesting approach, better visuals, and amazing buildup and shock value. The past two were predictable and longwinded tbh, and this plot, the deaths, and the bonding of the characters is so much more emotionally compelling to me here. Her superpower helps her learn/see joy for the first time, and led her to a comfortable and supportive environment she probably never had before. As someone from a troubled past, the first time experiencing joy like that is monumental, and i would definitely say after the journey she went through and her skill it expedited her healing and her connections.There is no problem with this game tbh, absolutely noNE. I agree about the love interests, but i believe its because it is trying to teach a very different lesson about love than romance and passion, quite the opposite actually. The gritty risky hard parts, the dedication and responsibility, the trust and work etc.... I saw the trio as an adoptive family for Gabe and that was beautiful on its own, whichever choice you make they all love each other so deeply that although the romantic lead is forced, the mf ending is great regardless.
This guys patience
What u mean ?
Alex was using her powers to keep in check.
@@thevexoffender8197 I think he meant he spent his time to get endings
I'm so glad I got the most perfect ending with everyone in the council backing me up as well as romancing Ryan and backing me as well during the meeting. Also, I got Ryan to go with Alex to pursue her music adventures. I'm thankful that I took my time with the game and explored every corner when I could. EXPLORE, PEOPLE!
Alex is by far my favorite character from LiS
She’s such a badass lmao
People are beyond immature for actually comparing Steph and Ryan in terms of believing Alex and treating their perspectives as equal
Is it bad that from like the first 5 minutes of knowing him that I thought the bar tender was going to be a villain
I actually had no idea until the end.
@@punkypony5165 That's it. I suspected duckie the whole time till i got the chance to dance with him and see his pain
For me personally he was shown to be way too nice so I thought "I dont know how but he will be the bad guy in the end". for me its most likely because jefferson in the first lis was "kind and so popular too" that I thought "hm the same goes for jed". Well.,.. only that not evvery teen had a crush on Jed.
@@tifa__ Also they actually foreshadowed it with the LARP by making Jed the villain. Already suspected him from the beginning as he was considered the hero of Haven, but was pretty obvious after the LARP....
i didnt consider Jed as the villain until i explored Alex's apartment and noticed how many letters he was writing to her. it seemed obsessive almost. love how the developers made it seem like he was trying to help her after her brother's death but in actuality, he was totally trying to get Alex to trust him only to try to push her into silence. i have to applaud the LiS3 team for that !
When Alex said “I just want my big brother” like it, it hurt man…
This game was alright, but LIS2 is still the best of this trilogy imo.
This has become my favorite game in the franchise. The characters are so well written. People think choices in this game didn’t matter but it did just the way it was supposed to. This game was about Alex.
Her coming to haven for a second chance and in that process how much she success or fails, proves her people around wrong that misjudged her so much her entire life. In this game you are put into Alexs shoes and go through this journey with her. Make the morally right choices and see where that puts you.
This game is about learning empathy for the chaeacter and us the players. The ending where she lefts and no one comes to say goodbye to her was such gut punch. Yoh failed to belong somewhere where you were given a second chance. You blew it. But you learned something. Not everything have to be a loss.
At the end of everything you get to reflect on what you did. In the good endings Alex and us learn what’s it’s like to belong and in the bad ones we learn what It's like to fail people around us. This game teaches us to notice those who are around us a little more then we did and they rewarded for it too. Like the one with Duckie. Thank You to everyone who worked on this game so hard to for years to deliver us with this heartfelt and very personal story. It helped me and it will have a special place in my heart.
Thank you DeckNine and SquareEnix
I'm so happy seeing Alex with Ryan, it's so cute huhu
I wanted to want to pick Steph but the first play thru I do of these games I always “go with my gut”. Saving Ryan on the cliff telling him to forgive himself just GOT ME a lot more than foosball with Steph so I chose him even though I like them both. Point is… I agree with you, they’re so cuteeee!!
@@ArtumsOG yo that was the same for me too! I was going into the game being like "oh i'm gonna romance steph for sure" then the cliffside scene happened with them hugging away the sad and then alex sharing his joy for the first time in her life just....got me dude. I was like "oh the mountain puppy boy got me fuck"
The minute Steph held the records up in the window, I was like “SPARKS” and Steph was my choice. Even watching these endings with Ryan as the romance, there’s just no romantic chemistry there for me.
That won’t last tho you think they would get married you think the thought of her having his last name she wouldn’t make her throw up in her mouth
ryan got me the moment he made steph step out of the store so that alex wouldn't have to deal with her anger. what a sweetie. i romanced ryan, got him to believe me, and left haven with him. 100000% would choose him again
I can't get over the fact that in one ending they didn't believe Alex even though she's standing in front of them injured and covered in blood.....The biggest betrayal ever was when Ryan has the audacity to not believe her even after everything...Funny how Steph regardless of if you romance her or not stands by Alex.
Well to be fair, jed is ryan's dad
@@cuenta8410 To be fair he believed her in one ending regardless of that so it's not a good excuse lmao
@@alexus1136 it wouldn’t be fair if he just believes a girl he met recently over his own dad in every ending, which is why he’s the hardest to have on your side. just because he can believe her, doesn’t mean it’s the biggest betrayal if he doesn’t. ITS. HIS. DAD. ALRIGHT?
@@BazookaGamingGirl let's agree to disagree
@@BazookaGamingGirl She limped inside with a bullet wound and completely tore up. She was speaking facts about Typhon, the town, and Jed. Even the other people who had just met her as well, believed her and were on her side over Jed. Even Pike, a deputy, who said there’s, in fact, evidence of the shady stuff of Typhon and Jed. Come on now, don’t be dumb.
The stay in Haven ending is way more wholesome. Seeking adventure sounds fun, but like her vision of Gabe said, in Haven she got everything she ever wanted: a place to call home, people who like and care about her, a boyfriend/girlfriend, a job, a family.
As for the romance, i went with Ryan, and i still prefer that route, but the most complete ending is romancing Steph, because she stays in Haven, and Ryan doesn't leave anyway.
Edit: never mind, Ryan is absent from Steph's route, same as she is in his, it looks like he doesn't believe Alex by default, if you romance Steph, and later apologizes by text, but Alex doesn't reply, and he isn't mentioned or seen in the ending. He even said in his route "without you, what's left in Haven for me", so he might've left Haven same as Steph did.
@croma 136 Yeah, i guess Steph's leaving isn't as bad as Ryan's absent ending
Adventure is the way to go- too much emotional trauma attached to haven. Too many ugly truths discovered. Don’t think time would make me just forget. Although grateful for the experiences, my option would be hit the open road
@@Deardahliax What about her entire childhood, all the years she was basically homeless, everyone treated her poorly, even the people in the foster homes. The drama with Jed is nothing compared to that. Being an orphan is one of the worst things someone can go through.
@@bggsz4 yes that’s true but she’s on the road with friends not alone plus she can always return if she wants to
The best ending with steph
Yea I got that ending
@@lilmango7831 me too🫂
definitely the best ending and love interest
@@addieeeson Jefferson: best ending would in the dark room, sorry I couldn't resist
@@lilmango7831 same, I'm glad I got it.
my biggest flex is that everybody trusted me. i dont event know how i did it tho
I wish there was a opinion that Diana switch the side
@@samjack8300 Oh yes it could have been great. But I think she was in the "bad" side since the very beginning so it might be too much maybe
Ryan? Yes please 🥺👉🏻👈🏻
for me this is the best game in the series/the characters in this game are more relatable and more likable the graphics are better the animations are better the writing's better everything is better/the story might be simpler but also more realistic
especially compared to the first game
For me, stoey in season 1 still be best.. Season 1 made me laughed, cry, shocked n devastatingly heartbroken
True colors..... Just made me glad i finished it although... Yes the graphix & facial expression massively improved & alex chen is the most likable protagonist in the series yet
Unless u count Chloe Price as a main character.. Then chloe still wins
@@YouNicIceYNI in my opinion, i hate chloe
i agree. i actually think true colors is the best LiS game out of the series. as MUCH as i loved the original, this one just blew it out the park with me
1 day it’s been out and you got them all😳😳 that’s real patience
When she came to The Black Lantern, I thought everyone knew about killing me and they all voted for me to die. Would be a crazy plot-twist ngl, but enjoyed it so much anyway! Not my fav LiS, but still it did write smthng on my heart for sure. btw my tierlist of LiS games: 1, 2, BtS and last this. Need some more decision based games like this, any recommendations? peace
Just to confirm although most people already have…have you played Detroit Become Human and Heavy Rain? Also decision based games but more intense than these in my opinion.
@@artsyjazzy94 And Until Dawn, it's intense also but more horror. so reminiscent of that part where Alex is walking through the mine
Tell me why
Oh so you speak Czech too? Nice
Beyond Two Souls, Detroit Become Human, Tell me why, The Walking Dead Game (by telltales, this is a very emotional one), The Wolf Among Us
so in fact there are 2 endings, and neither is decided by the choices made during the game, just by a decision made at the end? Well im a lil bit disappointed not gonna lie
sadly, me too..
Yes but the choices throughout foretells the loyalty of those in haven which leads to you either choosing you to stay in haven or leave. For example if no one is loyal to you chances are you may want to leave and seek adventure elsewhere. And if you have all the loyalty it may gear you more towards staying. It’s all connected.
yea that's how i felt as well not gonna lie. i still enjoyed the game though. i actually really liked that all the choices you made with the townies affected if they sided with you or not but i wish that impacted the ending as well. like if no one sides with alex what if she ends up back at her foster care or even a mental facility? maybe that would've been better than Jed just going to jail and Alex just getting off the hook.
@@evepsych EXACTLY! I thought mental health facility ending could the be the canon ending bc maybe Alex absorb many townies's emotion or she cant handle so much pressure or smth like that😬😕
@@eddfelix1705 RIGHT ?? there were so many missed opportunities with this game that i wish we could’ve saw ! 💔
Amazing game. I absolutely loved it and I'm so glad aside from Steph, this game was allowed to stand on its own without any past references to previous character. I fell in love with Alex and the Citizens of Haven so much. I cannot wait for the Steph DLC that's for sure.
Wdyt of the steph DLC now that it’s out?
Dude this game is fucking amazing. Sure it’s different compared to the rest of the series and yeah the story could have been executed a bit better but holy shit these are some of the most genuinely interesting and lovable characters I have ever experienced in any form of media ever, and the setting of Haven Springs is breathtaking!
damn i don't wanted to choose between steph and ryan, i just wish i could pick both sauhs
I was so upset the Ryan didn't support me. I'm assuming it's because I flirted with Steph too much even though I was romancing him 😆😆
Literally this I kissed him instead of Steph and Steph end up believing me instead of Ryan I was so pissed
@@youssef4955 same
I flirted Ryan many times, gave him the rose, kissed him and yet he still didn't stood up for me. I think it's because in the chapter 2 I didn't back him up about Gabe calling Mac. I wasn't paying attention to what everybody was saying so I panicked and picked the neutral option
@@Primnose Same thing he didn’t back me up I really don’t know what I did wrong.
I think Ryan only supports you if everyone else does too
This game is a such a masterpiece!
The characters, most of the music, the sceneries, the story, etc. are simply breathtaking!!
That being said, the "endings", however, could've have certainly been improved for the better.
On one hand, Alex could move onto many different places, meet more people, share her music with the world, enjoy the thrill of adventuring, unlike what she used to experience growing up. She will be away from Haven Springs and not have to worry and think about the fact that she is living in the same town where her brother and father died. However, she loses one of her best friends in the process. Not to mention, she would have no place to really call as her home if she keeps traveling everywhere.
It would be very chaotic for her, being in front of large crowds, meetings fans, etc. since she still is learning how to interact with others better than what she used to do.
On the other hand, if she stays in Haven, she actually would be honoring the fact that her brother spent a long time looking for her, and even wanted her to have a place to call home. She also would have a place to restart her life and be a part of a community and learn to be more vulnerable with others, having a chance to try to trust people again. She never truly felt this happy in a long time until she got to Haven.
Also, she could just live in Haven for a few years, get better doing music with Steph, then hit the road with Steph as the drummer, and Ryan as their manager, perhaps. Now that would be super epic!!!!
Both ways are very interesting, and bittersweet. I hate the fact that the three amigos are split up no matter the choice that ends up being made. However, unlike the other LIS games, this one actually has somewhat happier endings.
No, they don't split up every time. In my game Ryan backed Alex and Steph stayed to be together with Alex. You don't see all of them together in the imagination cutscene, but they are all still in Haven and good with each other.
It makes sense to leave with Steph since shes been wanting to go in the beginning (doesnt matter whether people believe you or not)... If you chose Ryan initially with the rose, and he believes you then you should stay since it doesn't make sense for Ryan to go with you since hes been Haven his whole life. Less believable he just gets up and follows you. Obviously if Ryan didnt believe you and you didnt forgive him, you should leave since there is nothing for you here at Haven. I think Ryan believing u or not depends on how many others believe you (Charlotte, Pike, Eleanor, Duckie, Steph). Steph by default believes you so you just need 2/4 the others to swing the decision for Ryan to believe since by counting Steph its 3/5 and thats majority.
i actually think it does make sense he leaves after all that. Of course it dosent mean he wont come back but after finding out your role model and part of your life in that town was a lie, id assume he wants to get away and breath with the person he loves and doesnt lie to him.
I had duckie steph and Eleanor believe me but Ryan still didn’t :( and he didn’t forgive me.
@@sarahsellers8270 same as you. Ryan didn't believe me still. So I think you might have to get everyone (Pike included) to believe you, so he does too :/
@@sarahsellers8270 I think you need to successfully get Charlotte and to calm him down successfully as well by forgiving himself and not taking away Charlotte's anger but tell her its valid she feels the way she does. But I'm not sure. It sucks they make Ryan such a hair trigger but Steph will believe you. Its prob cuz it's his dad but idk
Ryan and Alex is not realistic after that reveal tell me how many women are with men who’s father murdered their family and tried to kill them?
I love how there's not a "Steph believed Alex during the vote/ Steph didn't believe Alex during the vote", wether you choose her romantically or platonically, she will always believe Alex, it's so cute :3
Tbh the endings really upset me. After playing lis 2 and absolutely loving how they added more endings and actual choice based endings along with the extra cut scenes after showing how everything went I was sooo excited for this game but the endings were kinda fucked. You pretty much get the same ending no matter what and they aren’t even that good. The first ending I chose was Alex leaving with Steph along with Berlin and the loft, and I was hoping there’d be a quick cutscene of them chilling in a house together, on a date or at least performing together??? But it was just one quick scene of Alex alone. I know these games take a while to make and so do multiple endings but I payed $60 for this game after waiting for years it wouldn’t have killed them to make the endings slightly longer :(
It’s weird that the story format is so similar, less like “life is strange” more like “life is repetitive”.
But I’m glad that they were able to humanise this story more, not everyone people see as “villains” is because they are just “evil”.
I was worried because it had the “red herring”, the “knocked out Self reflections”, then the, “turns out chill older person is actually big bad guy”
But at least in this there wasn’t just a “black and white”, “good and evil”. Although the powers were a bit all over the place in how they work and felt like you wouldn’t need the emotion seeing powers, sometimes just felt like mind reading, they could’ve done better with the power, make it have clear rules of use that are consistent and develop over time, getting better or stronger.
I think my favourite thing was my ability to empathise with Alex’s past as I’ve been through similar, also been through something similar to Jeds feelings of guilt and suppressing it through a lie of heroes pride.
But I ultimately liked how your push for the truth hurt people, aware that wanting justice isn’t the same as bringing the loved one back.
This is probably my least favourite game of the few, power wise, missed potential.
But my favourite game of the few, character wise, outstanding differences in the characters making them all quite interesting and unique with the overlay of “same”, which is obviously what the power mechanic was made around.
I was skeptic of this game at least half-way through, but the pay-off really made it work out in the end.
Not sure what you thought was repetitive about this game as it’s own unique creation and very different from most other games out there.
@@Deardahliax The story structure. It's very much like the first one.
You got the obvious red herring, you got the nice/cool older guy who lets off red flags, you got the internal self reflection dream sequence after you get put into a limbo situation when near death.
Just very similar with story structure of the first one.
If certain decisions avoided these key points then it would be different, because you wouldn't be put through these parts of the story, but you HAVE to go through them because they're key parts.
Because the games can be played multiple times I played the first one multiple times, I felt like I knew exactly what was coming in True Colours simply because it was structured like the first one.
That's not saying the game is a copy of anything, it's just comparing it to it's own predecessors.
I think all the characters in True Colours are interesting to amazing, they obviously needed to be layered to pull of the game mechanic but they are fun to explore through multiple playthroughs.
But that's not completely detrimental till the end of the story, where they play a key role in the main narrative, so you are right in the sense of it's different.
Just how it does the story from the tragedy to the resolution, most of the main story, is told in pretty much the same way as the first.
@@TheStrongVirus well every sequel to any game plays off the original themes or it would not be a Lis game anymore lol. I do feel like this game was its own piece with enough ties and themes to the first one while still telling its own unique story. But I do see what you are saying.
@@Deardahliax Yeah, I mean it in a sense where it's not like it ruins the whole game, I just rolled my eyes a bit when I saw it coming.
I don't think it's to relate back to previous games, it's not trying to be a reference or call back.
It's like if I were to tell the story of, "The Tortoise and the Hare" but instead of a Tortoise and Hare I use a Snail and Chimp, instead of a running race they ride bicycles and the winner gets a pie.
That's fine, sure it's like the story everyone has heard but it would be my first little tale and I have my own little spins on it, so it's different.
But then I write another "Tortoise and the Hare" story, but with a sloth and cheetah, they fly planes and they win a diamond ring.
You're gonna be like, "Hey, wait a sec..." about half-way through, probably lose interest or feel a little unfulfilled, especially if you tried to immerse yourself into the story.
That's sort of the issue I had with the True Colours story structure.
Because they can tell stories using different structures, doesn't always have to be a Nathan/Mac for example.
But something they did WAAAAYYYY better and different was the "bad guy/s" weren't "bad" they were just human, made mistakes and trying to run and hide or pretending to be strong by fighting from their own issues. I liked that, that was the biggest difference with the story structure. All the other antagonists were just bad people for the sake of it, just evil because they and are unjustified, they know they are "bad guy".
I think the gameplay could have done more, but it's by no means bad, the LARP bit was pretty cool, felt a bit like "filler" but I did like that they added more day to day stuff in the story, rather than in the other games where it is just, Normal life-drama-normal-drama-drama-drama-DRAMA!
@@TheStrongVirus yeah I get what you mean. Though I do feel like the villains in this game were a lot refreshing in that Jed is not your typical” super villain” in that he seems like a regular dude who made a mistake and got lost within that, which humanizes him a lot more and makes it more a grey area where the characters are more relateable and real. The larp part did feel a bit like filler I agree. But overall I thought the game had some great themes and the foreshadowing with Jed was pretty awesome.
I hate how Ryan relationship boils down too, you believe me? And he just goes off but if you go I’m sorry. He’s like no I’m sorry.
Meanwhile Steph is just so supportive
I got scared to take Pike's fear after what happened with taking Charlotte's anger. As for Eleanor, I didn't think it was good to lie to Riley so I told her about Eleanor's Alzheimer's. I didn't even notice Ducky in the Black Lantern for his part.... I just had to laugh bc I happened to make choices that ended up with nobody backing me up except Steph LOL
I was so nervous that because of nobody believing me, I'd get a bad end. I was pleasantly surprised, I chose to stay in Haven with Steph :)
i’m on team Steph 100%
Im Mountain man team
I literally had everyone side with me. Even Ryan believed me. But then again I kissed him, because even though I like steph, she reminds me too much of chloe. And also I really love how dorky ryan is so.
Im super happy with my first playthrough ending
Everyone siding with you probably automatically him side with you. Which is probably because you don't take anger from Charlotte and that means you don't lash out at Steph and Ryan moments later. Dating him likely doesn't matter, because I was with Steph on the Spring festival.
No one sided with me except Duckie and Steph. I get it taking Charlotte's anger made her not side with me. I get taking Pike's wouldve made him side with me. I get Ryan wouldve sided with me if I was dating him or sent him to seduce Diane.
But I just don't get how I get Eleanor side with me. Is it coz I decided not to tell her about Gabe?
@@tishyo77 from what I know, yes, that played a part. But that's not the real reason.
Eleanor doesn't want Riley to know about her illness. But because she forgot about Gabe and you didn't tell her, she missed Gabe's funeral and that's how Riley found out about her disease.
The only way to keep Eleanor on your side is to make sure that Riley never knows about her illness (as she won't go for college after learning this).
@@sharif47 Ah, makes sense, thanks a lot
@@tishyo77 you're welcome.
Glad I somehow avoided Ryan's betrayal else I would have been more mad than Charlotte was in Ep. 3 😂
Alex and Ryan together in that ending made me feel happy
I enjoyed playing this game till episode 3 and it made me more excited for the further episodes but I was highly disappointed after as the episodes felt so short and there were not many player choices. Also I wish there were more romantic interactions after we choose who to be with but it lacked there as well. And the most disappointing thing were the endings which were just based on the romantic interest we choose and if we leave Haven or not, nothing drastic like the endings in lis 2 and no depth at all especially if we choose to leave Haven. This game got me so hyped in the beginning but left with almost nothing in the end 😞
Why would you NOT pick up the pickaxe? You're alone and by yourself. That's just stupid not having that option.
She can barley walk I don't think she can carry it
She’s barely holding up at it was. You really think she’d be able to pick up that pickaxe?
She couldn’t even walk lmao. Axe was half her size.
Jefferson: shhhh quite
I was more concerned about why not to use a phone as a source of light, given that apparently it wasn't broken by the fall, since we still can use it to read texts later on. But yeah, I get it that it would not be nearly as dramatic as a glowing redness from a distance.
I got the ending where Steph and Alex romance and stayed in Haven Springs game was good but it was short and can’t wait to play wavelengths on September 30
People who believed me: Steph, Charlotte and Pike
Even got all trophies on my first play through and completed last night
Stef and duckie had my corner. Disappointed but expected.
Only Steph and Pike had my back because I screwed up and sucked out Charlotte's emotions. But then Steph and I bailed on Haven together which was cool
Got the same ending, everyone believed me but Eleanor (I told Riley she has dementia - i believe this is why she didn’t believe me, also the way she spoke about “you need help” was hypocritical as she was the one who needed help)
How Charlotte can trust we
@@AshLeechh idk maybe dont take her anger that’s what I did