Great vid as always Roger! Couple of questions Presuming cabling needs to be surface mounted as walls don’t have a cavity? Fixing shelves/TV etc… walls can take fixings or need to ply line/plasterboard etc? Cheers
My experience in a conservation area is that you ask if you need any permission and they tell you they don't know and that you should pay a fee to find out. Figure that one out! Job looks great Roger. 👍
Govt legislation requires LPAs to charge a fee to issue a certificate of lawfulness (ie to confirm in writing if permission/consent is required). It’s a legal document and advisable to avoid ant future problems/challenges.
Hey guys, love the channel, full of inspiration! I’d like to get one of the insulated panel store garden rooms but when I get in touch with them and ask questions I get really useless answers back! Here’s an example. I’d like to use a ground screws base, so I asked, how many screws do I need and what is the best support frame to put between. The answer was.. With regards to ground screws, unfortunately we cant offer advise on this you would need to approach a specialist installer/supplier ??? So helpful!
Im really interested in making one of these myself but cant justify laying a full 5x4m concrete base! Was thinking of mixing a few loads to make the parameter and maybe 2 rows of concrete across for the base to sit on, any thoughts?
You could batten and clad the outside in your timber of choice. Same with boarding inside if you wanted more homely finish. You're getting a good insulated envelope with minimal labour costs. You could just buy similar panels and roof only and attach to timber frame. Fair bit of work on the detailing, though.
You can buy those insulated panels on their own, and with rest of everything you would still pay roughly 1/4 of the price. Need to build a frame using 4x2s on walls and 5x2s on roof (double up roof if more than 3.5m long)
Great video when it rains will the metal roof make a lot off noise .Ask that because a friend off my got a metal shed a And he sed it made a lot off noise when it was raining it looks great 👍🏻
Are rivets the only way to create a tight fit? It makes it impossible to disassemble the box. Also, the panels are a nightmare to recycle because the insulation is glued to the metal and the plastic. Also, there's no prefabricated cutouts for plumbing or wiring. The total price of this build is around 15K and I find that an awful lot of money for what you actually get. Having said this, your video is still very helpful. It's important to know what's on the market. What doesn't work for me might work for someone else.
Great project I do love Rodger saying he’s got a better riveter because of his poor arthritic hands then next clip of him was bashing a metal trim with his hand😆😆. I know we all do it.
@@SkillBuilder nice attitude. It was a question as its titled a garden room not storage. So obviously would need electrics.. more curious. But I see I asked the wrong person. Thank you anyhows.
I live in a kit house / cabin like this So far I wouldn't recommend it to anyone. No one should ever consider living in one of these ever. I can't wait to build a normal wooden breathable structure. I'm counting down the days and it's not coming soon enough
Must admit I’m not a builder and certainly no handyman. I’d prefer to pay someone. Love th room though wish we had this sort of stuff in Australia. There’s a massive opening for this here. Our builders are stuck in the past and with boring ideas.
Sure you can build this in a day - if you've already created the concrete base, have a bunch of construction experience and have half a dozen people helping you.
The base is the biggest job. We managed this build with 2 and a half people and it took around 9 hours. The next one we build will take much less time but it is not a race. The point is that you can have a good garden room in double quick time.
@@SkillBuilder I do like the kit, but you should grab someone that's never done anything like that, has no construction experience, and see how many hours it takes them to build that from soup to nuts. I'd be willing to bet dollars to donuts it's at least 40 and probably closer to 80.
Hi Roger as a British builder myself I love using the same roof system here in Thailand so easy to use and very strong product. As always I just love your videos no matter what your doing. Keep up the great work. 👍 🙏🙏🙏
Nice video Roger, I've been looking at these and they look like a good solution to what I'm after. What would you advise around getting electrics into the room and also finishing the internal walls?
That made me laugh. And 'man days' is also a measurement of time. Recently working on a refit in London. Left work on Friday, came in Monday morning and 2 large entrance halls had been tiled in Large format porcelain tiles. Looked nice. Asked site agent how long it took. One day he said. I asked what time did they start. Started at 6 am, finished at midnight he said. How many men i asked. 8, he said. So, 18 hours, multiplied by 8,= 144 hours. 1 day 👍👍👌👌
@@tilerman 😆😆😆 "man days" to right...... it's like the old fishing stories "I caught a fish thiiiiiiiiiiiiis BIG"..... yeah right mate 😒😁. The only reason I watched this video was because of the headline.... bloody clickbait...😁.... Thanks for sharing Busyboy 👍👍
What would make this an even better garden room is, add integral solar panels to the roof panels, with the addition of factory fitted led lighting, run cables in channels out to corresponding wall channels, add a small battery storage/inverter to one wall panel and Bob's your uncle you have an off grid garden room... So easy! If only!
@@IverKnackerovif it's well insulated it will need very little heating. 5.5m x 3.3m is 18.15m². Solar panels are already over 100 Watts per meter, 18 x 100+ Watts is 1.8kW.. So it's almost a 2KW roof. Should be enough to heat this well insulated room. Solar is improving all the time. Have you seen the new slates that are all solar panels that link together? They are of the Tesla solar roof and storage kit. Marques Brownlee, the famous UA-camr, did his house with the Tesla kit and 3 batteries. After a year he put out a video. He now draws zero electricity from the grid over a year. Just from his roof. There's a new solar charging car being launched this year. It can charge up to 20 miles a day in UK/Holland, 30 miles in Spain. And it costs only £6,000 new. Only a tiny 2 seater. But still 20-30 miles of free fuel mileage a day on a £6k car is astonishing. Obviously car rental companies are queuing to buy them.
Would you cut down all the trees as well. I love these sort of comments. Let’s cut down all the trees near your home that provide cooling in summer and heat in winter (with no leaves letting sun through) for some solar panels. People really think this through
was watching this while building a LEGO set - couldn’t help smiling at the comparison. No tools needed for my build, and it also wasn’t affected by weather 😅
I build these for a living, base is always installed a week before we get there but generally it a day to get them water tight then finish rest of week with running electrics, cladding depending on finish either plasterboard or standard finish but there not a bad building to put up 👍
amazing, looked for years at pre fab and self build in both timber and brick etc.. This saves weeks of work and i dont actually think that much more in cost if at all. And even if a couple of K more would be worth it for the zero maintenance and excellent aesthetics. I am ordering one for sure.
I've just helped a friend put one of these up, this video proved invaluable thank you! here's some observations that may help anyone else looking to build one: The head beam is an absolute nightmare to get on, it took 3 of us about 2.5hrs using a process of clamping, bashing and running scrapers up the inside to stop it catching on the insulated panels. The rivet gun absolutely kills your hands, getting one with longer handles is a must in my opinion. When the roof panels seat together they look like the should fit flush but they actually stop about 1cm off each other leaving what I assume to be a ventilation gap running the whole length on the inside, this freaked me out for a bit thinking we had done something wrong but you can just about see them in the video. There is seemingly no way to fit the roof panels without getting them covered in bitumen while positioning them because you have to feed them backwards, then forwards. On the kit we fitted the header corners were mis-labelled but it was obvious how they went on due to the angles.
Hello Chris The thermal insulation looks fine, but how good is the sound insulation? I am often on conference calls and I want to ensure I minimise the noise coming through the structure. Would appreciate any information you or your friend could provide.
@@jatindersehmbi6239 Yeah sound insulation is pretty good although this particular office is right next to a railway line! theres nothing that can fix that haha
@@theinsulatedpanelstore4740 Hello, I am 'the friend' - I'll send some photos no worries. I bought the building on the back of this video and we referenced it quite a lot during the build. Overall I'm very pleased with the building, and the customer service from you guys was great. It did take 2 seasoned DIYers more like 3 days to complete however (including fitting the door). Mine is on a timber base, if I was doing it again I'd lay a concrete one as balancing on the joists and noggins made everything harder with the build, especially lifting the roof panels into place. The header part was an absolute nightmare, I thought we'd never get it on to be honest. If the header had gone on before the door flashing things may have been simpler perhaps, as you end up with a big bow in the doorway which doesn't help things. If we'd have had some kind of prop for the door space it might have gone more smoothly. The floor is a very tight fit - best to use a pull bar like the sort you have when fitting a laminate floor, to tighten the panels up - otherwise the last panel wont fit.Its also really difficult to fit the floor without scratching the walls. Now its all done it looks great, It is also extremely warm in the building, even without heating. Pretty impressive.
Hi @@mttshw. What’s the internal finish like & is there any option to plaster it? I assume any electrics would need to be surface as mounted as it is.
@@Denboydeus the inside of the panels are white metal - I’ve left mine like this and ran a conduit around the bottom for plug sockets and things. Wiring for the lights is also in conduit mounted to the surface - it looks fine for an office. You could baton and plasterboard if you wanted, and put the wiring behind, I’m sure it would look good - but I had no need to.
Great video Roger! Very helpful. Just taken delivery of the same model. Interesting to see they have taken note of what you said with the hand riveter as the one I received with the kit was type you recommended.
Wow. you trust someone because they made a video that depicts how simple something is when it can be edited to fuck, its content like this that makes people assume that work can be done at a click of the fingers, it’s also pre made and there’s probably more than two guys doing this... and if they got it done in a day they have earned more than a day rate to do the job. It’s mis informed, to make these guys look like they are doing something that others cannot. It’s a good idea don’t get me wrong... but in reality you’ve got something that was put up in a day, and what do they say about Rome? This is modern and cheap methods being applied... no one is going to look at it in 30 years time and see a structure worth keeping, chances are it will be gone by then... because it’s a shed. And as a carpenter and joiner of nearly 20 years I can tell you it is not a nice looking shed either. Stop believing these people and do some research, maybe you’ll see there’s more to everything than what you see from who you think you can trust
@@boyasaka fairy sure that only if it's over 15m2 internal floor space. If it's 15m2 or less then you can normally build as close to boundary as you like, so long as it's no higher than 2.5m. For me personally I'd want access for maintenance so wouldn't get that close but some people don't seem to consider that part.
I might be wrong but it looks like recessed electrics would be almost impossible in this style of build so you would probably need to run all the wiring surface mounted in conduit either PVC or Galvanised steel for a more industrial feel. Lighting would be tricky too. Recessed Downlights would be a nightmare so some kind of surface mounted LED fitting would possibly be best. These kind of kits save DIYers a lot of money until they have to get electricians involved. 😅
@@artisanelectrics ✌️What electrics would be needed? with such a well insulated building probably only lighting, perhaps a few cables for computers etc. Unless using for accommodation, but then it’s not sold as accommodation it’s sold as a garden room.
Concrete base goes right up to both large trees as well as right up to the neighbour's fence, apart from that an enlightening video on construction techniques. To have such a beautiful Beech in your garden is more of an asset than this building will ever be .
What they don't tell you is that even if the concrete base is of level by the slightest amount, and off square by so little, it's a nightmare when it gets to the last third. I've been doing sectional timber buildings for 23yrs. And it still amazes me what some people expect there new buildings to site on. And all there doors and windows to close absolutely fine. I must admit it looks very,very well done 👏
I want one !!!! Not the outbuilding, a Skill Builder. It is now month 2 and I am still fitting my Wren Kitchen 🤣 Best thing I purchased for the job (and I did have big heavy screw clamps) were 2x short ratchet clamps, 2 medium and 2 long. Why didn't I get them before, I always needed them on other D.I.Y jobs ? Hey, I am a retired computer scientist, don't berate me, my wife does that one cupboard per day 😭🥴😂 I am almost finished and I tell her "Perfection takes time Mrs" 😎🤭😜
@@SkillBuilder My wife Sue had some choice words about my artistry after reading your comment. I won't repeat them 😆😅🤣😂 I am trying so very hard Buddy and she knows it. We have banter about how slow I have become. It is also a ploy and a very cunning plan. The more she asks for the kitchen the more I can let her know when I am fished "It's all yours darling!" 😎😂
With the roof the way it is, do you not get cold thermal bridging from the soffit over the door and then onto the inside, as your ceiling panel and soffit is the same bit of metal?
@kevin conboy Hi, I think it less of a problem than I originally thought, but because the ceiling and the soffit are made of the same bit of metal, when its cold outside, the cold will travel across the metal from the soffit over the door and inside. Basically the ceiling by the door will become cold, so you might get condensation damp.. There is no bridging from the top of the roof to the ceiling, just from the soffit to the ceiling
@@davidkelly4841 Thank you for replying, I see what you mean now. As Skillbuilder said in there reply it was a good spot by you and maybe the manufacturer needs to look into it. All the best Kevin 👍
And the same for all the U-shaped steel channels along the top and bottom of the wall, and around the doorway. I guess they're not building a passivehaus, and not expecting anyone to live in it during the winter.
I'd buy one but I'm concerned about how to install the electrical wiring. Conduit is not nice to the eye. Maybe drill through the insulation and wire as the build takes place?
Interesting to understand how you would do ceiling lights. If you chase the wires in then you will loose the integrity of the insulated roof and would then have to fill it with a PVC beeding or something. Maybe you just suck it up and have a wire running across the ceiling. Also what about wall sockets... light switches etc. Hmmm
One thing bad with this design is the trays that you sit the walls into. Any rain that runs off the panels can run into the trays. Only for that issue it is a pretty cool design.
The bottom trays are definitely a weak point. Water may drain out but there is no ventilation to dry out completely. The continuing dampness in the UK climate will find them out eventually. And they will sit on damp concrete.
Those roof panels look really interesting, save having to do joists and boarding etc, but I'll have to try work out if it's cheaper - they're very expensive!
I don't know anywhere that sells insulated panels of this type let alone the channels and corners pieces. There are many ways to build a garden room and this is just one of them. Some people think the convenience and build quality is worth it and others may not. The market is the market and it decides.
@@SkillBuilder looks very similar to the insulated panels they use in small factory units,only up on end. Runners, capping pieces is all there exept the corner pieces, couldn't find them.£ 25 ms. Brilliant idea btw. Keep up the rant.lol
How to build a garden room in 1 day: Take 2 weeks to build it. I guess the foundation just shows up formed and poured. I hate titles like this that make people who are not builders have ridiculous expectations about what it takes for real men to build their structures. UA-cam has made people think they are journeymen in a variety of fields, and I assure you, they are not.
Great !!!, Bro insulation sandwich panel detail is extremely strong structural, A part in the sandwich takes note to resemble assembly fit in which flashing not raining into the home. Perhaps, Silicon should be fixed between sandwich panels. I was working sandwich panel field, and I think that sandwich panels are very defensive in the majority of weather, and geography following Standard theory approval in EN 14509: 2013 sandwich panel is a material empty steel structure for don't very defend much something different.
Excellent tutorial thank you, how would one hang a TV or a air-conditioning unit or is it not possible, can you get one so you can have a separated storage room Thanks.
The supply of tea bags and Lion bars is an absolute genius idea ! It just shows the level of detail that has been taken into account.
if Infomercials had a red carpet hollywood award cremony, Roger would need a tuxedo to collect all the skill builder golden oscars
True!
I wouldn't agree with that comment. Stop brown nosing.
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Your videos are getting better and better. Thanks Roger!
Glad you like them! These videos take a fair amount of setting up
Great vid as always Roger!
Couple of questions
Presuming cabling needs to be surface mounted as walls don’t have a cavity?
Fixing shelves/TV etc… walls can take fixings or need to ply line/plasterboard etc?
Cheers
My experience in a conservation area is that you ask if you need any permission and they tell you they don't know and that you should pay a fee to find out. Figure that one out! Job looks great Roger. 👍
Govt legislation requires LPAs to charge a fee to issue a certificate of lawfulness (ie to confirm in writing if permission/consent is required). It’s a legal document and advisable to avoid ant future problems/challenges.
Best not to ask
Hey guys, love the channel, full of inspiration! I’d like to get one of the insulated panel store garden rooms but when I get in touch with them and ask questions I get really useless answers back! Here’s an example. I’d like to use a ground screws base, so I asked, how many screws do I need and what is the best support frame to put between. The answer was..
With regards to ground screws, unfortunately we cant offer advise on this you would need to approach a specialist installer/supplier
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So helpful!
Im really interested in making one of these myself but cant justify laying a full 5x4m concrete base! Was thinking of mixing a few loads to make the parameter and maybe 2 rows of concrete across for the base to sit on, any thoughts?
"A man who follows instructions".
Now that is a rarity. 😉
If only these were for sale in Canada, I would be all over this.
Wow that is awesome product!
You could batten and clad the outside in your timber of choice. Same with boarding inside if you wanted more homely finish. You're getting a good insulated envelope with minimal labour costs. You could just buy similar panels and roof only and attach to timber frame. Fair bit of work on the detailing, though.
You can buy those insulated panels on their own, and with rest of everything you would still pay roughly 1/4 of the price. Need to build a frame using 4x2s on walls and 5x2s on roof (double up roof if more than 3.5m long)
Maybe a small vent would be a great add on to high on one wall. Easy to add later.
Another great Video, be nice if they did one that would fit a snooker table in. Looks a really neat solution
Great video when it rains will the metal roof make a lot off noise .Ask that because a friend off my got a metal shed a
And he sed it made a lot off noise when it was raining it looks great 👍🏻
No this has an insulated core. The outer skin doesn't touch the inner
Are rivets the only way to create a tight fit? It makes it impossible to disassemble the box. Also, the panels are a nightmare to recycle because the insulation is glued to the metal and the plastic.
Also, there's no prefabricated cutouts for plumbing or wiring.
The total price of this build is around 15K and I find that an awful lot of money for what you actually get.
Having said this, your video is still very helpful. It's important to know what's on the market. What doesn't work for me might work for someone else.
Absolutely amazing 🥳🥳🥳
Great project I do love Rodger saying he’s got a better riveter because of his poor arthritic hands then next clip of him was bashing a metal trim with his hand😆😆. I know we all do it.
Yes I can use my hands as hammers but I don't have that much grip left. It was years of rock climbing that knitted the ligaments together.
Interesting video with some great tips. The Lion bars are a nice touch, would be even better if they were the white ones 😂👍.
That's awesome, what a great idea and product
Such a great idea and a great price
How to build a very specific and bespoke kit you mean
I wonder if they make something like this in the states. I’m going to have to look into this. Great video!
Why is there no DPC for the wall. Where are the air vents? Is information provided about how to break through the walls for power?
NICE VIDEO BTW AND THANKS
Great vid and great bit of kit!
Amazing review. 😍
Very cool system!
No mention of wiring these? Adding sockets and lights etc ..
Was the video called 'How to wire up a garden room' ?
@@SkillBuilder nice attitude. It was a question as its titled a garden room not storage. So obviously would need electrics.. more curious. But I see I asked the wrong person. Thank you anyhows.
What about the electrics? 😜
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what sort of cost was this build, material wise?
Follow up would have been nice
Good
I live in a kit house / cabin like this
So far I wouldn't recommend it to anyone.
No one should ever consider living in one of these ever.
I can't wait to build a normal wooden breathable structure.
I'm counting down the days and it's not coming soon enough
What issues have you encountered? Also I assume you mean a full house rather than an office e.g. with bathroom & kitchen etc?
Hey buddy I’m gonna get your project
Save me , money I put 5 together in a l shape build me a home looks amazing fr
Must admit I’m not a builder and certainly no handyman. I’d prefer to pay someone. Love th room though wish we had this sort of stuff in Australia. There’s a massive opening for this here. Our builders are stuck in the past and with boring ideas.
expensive product 9600 sterling then you have to buy door probably another 2k. so simple though
What about the fixings lower down you couldn't get in??? What wad the work around?
screws on the inside
Assembling a Garden room in a day on a prepared base.
Surely that room will just sweat with no ventilation
Open the door.
Genius, why didn't we think of that years ago when we invented vents, breathable membrane etc
Hi where can I go to purchase one of these?
Is this product available in the USA ?
Sure you can build this in a day - if you've already created the concrete base, have a bunch of construction experience and have half a dozen people helping you.
The base is the biggest job. We managed this build with 2 and a half people and it took around 9 hours. The next one we build will take much less time but it is not a race. The point is that you can have a good garden room in double quick time.
@@SkillBuilder I do like the kit, but you should grab someone that's never done anything like that, has no construction experience, and see how many hours it takes them to build that from soup to nuts. I'd be willing to bet dollars to donuts it's at least 40 and probably closer to 80.
Shame there's no price on how much these are..
How much did it cost for without labour?
How do you plasterboard this?
Needs planning permission if close to a neighbouring boundary and more than 2.5m tall.
At the boundary but not at the highest point
How cost for garden room please
Anyone know of American company that sales those roofing pannels?
Real men take their gloves off to eat a Lion bar !!
Banyak betul kamu ini bercakap..
How much ?
Hi Roger as a British builder myself I love using the same roof system here in Thailand so easy to use and very strong product. As always I just love your videos no matter what your doing. Keep up the great work. 👍 🙏🙏🙏
Nice video Roger, I've been looking at these and they look like a good solution to what I'm after. What would you advise around getting electrics into the room and also finishing the internal walls?
60 seconds = 1 minute....
60 minutes = 1 hour.....
72 hours = 1 day...... 😁
Nice job fella's, well done 👍
That made me laugh. And 'man days' is also a measurement of time. Recently working on a refit in London. Left work on Friday, came in Monday morning and 2 large entrance halls had been tiled in Large format porcelain tiles. Looked nice. Asked site agent how long it took. One day he said. I asked what time did they start. Started at 6 am, finished at midnight he said. How many men i asked. 8, he said. So, 18 hours, multiplied by 8,= 144 hours. 1 day 👍👍👌👌
@@tilerman 😆😆😆 "man days" to right...... it's like the old fishing stories "I caught a fish thiiiiiiiiiiiiis BIG"..... yeah right mate 😒😁.
The only reason I watched this video was because of the headline.... bloody clickbait...😁....
Thanks for sharing Busyboy 👍👍
What would make this an even better garden room is, add integral solar panels to the roof panels, with the addition of factory fitted led lighting, run cables in channels out to corresponding wall channels, add a small battery storage/inverter to one wall panel and Bob's your uncle you have an off grid garden room... So easy! If only!
Except that in the winter, when you need the most power for light and heating, there’s not enough solar …so it would be a waste of money
Doors would be a good start.
@@nickwalmsley8909just like the ones at the end of the video?
@@IverKnackerovif it's well insulated it will need very little heating. 5.5m x 3.3m is 18.15m². Solar panels are already over 100 Watts per meter, 18 x 100+ Watts is 1.8kW.. So it's almost a 2KW roof. Should be enough to heat this well insulated room.
Solar is improving all the time. Have you seen the new slates that are all solar panels that link together? They are of the Tesla solar roof and storage kit. Marques Brownlee, the famous UA-camr, did his house with the Tesla kit and 3 batteries. After a year he put out a video. He now draws zero electricity from the grid over a year. Just from his roof.
There's a new solar charging car being launched this year. It can charge up to 20 miles a day in UK/Holland, 30 miles in Spain. And it costs only £6,000 new. Only a tiny 2 seater. But still 20-30 miles of free fuel mileage a day on a £6k car is astonishing. Obviously car rental companies are queuing to buy them.
Would you cut down all the trees as well. I love these sort of comments. Let’s cut down all the trees near your home that provide cooling in summer and heat in winter (with no leaves letting sun through) for some solar panels. People really think this through
Nice video Roger. What’s your opinion on these garden rooms in regards to damp etc? Are they a good idea in the UK?
was watching this while building a LEGO set - couldn’t help smiling at the comparison. No tools needed for my build, and it also wasn’t affected by weather 😅
I build these for a living, base is always installed a week before we get there but generally it a day to get them water tight then finish rest of week with running electrics, cladding depending on finish either plasterboard or standard finish but there not a bad building to put up 👍
hi..do you have a contact number or email/website as im looking for someone to build this for me :)
Any contact details?
how sound proof are these? how to they compare to normal wooden fully insulated garden rooms? thanks!
amazing, looked for years at pre fab and self build in both timber and brick etc.. This saves weeks of work and i dont actually think that much more in cost if at all. And even if a couple of K more would be worth it for the zero maintenance and excellent aesthetics. I am ordering one for sure.
For over £9.5 grand I'd want the Electric drill as well
And some doors.....
...and someone to build it
Don't wanna rain over your party but if you don't own a drill, you don't have any business assembling that 😂
@@docolemnsx I think the comment went right over your head
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A modular building for gardens 👍 I build modular temp schools and accommodation. Great idea but hopefully the prices reduce for homeowners
Thanks for sharing Roger, looks like a great product, and expertly assembled.
I've just helped a friend put one of these up, this video proved invaluable thank you! here's some observations that may help anyone else looking to build one: The head beam is an absolute nightmare to get on, it took 3 of us about 2.5hrs using a process of clamping, bashing and running scrapers up the inside to stop it catching on the insulated panels. The rivet gun absolutely kills your hands, getting one with longer handles is a must in my opinion. When the roof panels seat together they look like the should fit flush but they actually stop about 1cm off each other leaving what I assume to be a ventilation gap running the whole length on the inside, this freaked me out for a bit thinking we had done something wrong but you can just about see them in the video. There is seemingly no way to fit the roof panels without getting them covered in bitumen while positioning them because you have to feed them backwards, then forwards. On the kit we fitted the header corners were mis-labelled but it was obvious how they went on due to the angles.
Hello Chris
The thermal insulation looks fine, but how good is the sound insulation? I am often on conference calls and I want to ensure I minimise the noise coming through the structure. Would appreciate any information you or your friend could provide.
@@jatindersehmbi6239 Yeah sound insulation is pretty good although this particular office is right next to a railway line! theres nothing that can fix that haha
@@theinsulatedpanelstore4740 Hello, I am 'the friend' - I'll send some photos no worries. I bought the building on the back of this video and we referenced it quite a lot during the build. Overall I'm very pleased with the building, and the customer service from you guys was great. It did take 2 seasoned DIYers more like 3 days to complete however (including fitting the door). Mine is on a timber base, if I was doing it again I'd lay a concrete one as balancing on the joists and noggins made everything harder with the build, especially lifting the roof panels into place. The header part was an absolute nightmare, I thought we'd never get it on to be honest. If the header had gone on before the door flashing things may have been simpler perhaps, as you end up with a big bow in the doorway which doesn't help things. If we'd have had some kind of prop for the door space it might have gone more smoothly. The floor is a very tight fit - best to use a pull bar like the sort you have when fitting a laminate floor, to tighten the panels up - otherwise the last panel wont fit.Its also really difficult to fit the floor without scratching the walls. Now its all done it looks great, It is also extremely warm in the building, even without heating. Pretty impressive.
Hi @@mttshw. What’s the internal finish like & is there any option to plaster it? I assume any electrics would need to be surface as mounted as it is.
@@Denboydeus the inside of the panels are white metal - I’ve left mine like this and ran a conduit around the bottom for plug sockets and things. Wiring for the lights is also in conduit mounted to the surface - it looks fine for an office. You could baton and plasterboard if you wanted, and put the wiring behind, I’m sure it would look good - but I had no need to.
Great video Roger! Very helpful. Just taken delivery of the same model. Interesting to see they have taken note of what you said with the hand riveter as the one I received with the kit was type you recommended.
Looks like a fun project but isn't it just a glorified shed
what is wrong with a glorified shed?
It’s almost like building a large walk-in cold room freezer with a glass front.
Roger- you are one of the very few tradesmen I would trust to do a job for me. I do almost all my building work myself.
Wow. you trust someone because they made a video that depicts how simple something is when it can be edited to fuck, its content like this that makes people assume that work can be done at a click of the fingers, it’s also pre made and there’s probably more than two guys doing this... and if they got it done in a day they have earned more than a day rate to do the job. It’s mis informed, to make these guys look like they are doing something that others cannot. It’s a good idea don’t get me wrong... but in reality you’ve got something that was put up in a day, and what do they say about Rome? This is modern and cheap methods being applied... no one is going to look at it in 30 years time and see a structure worth keeping, chances are it will be gone by then... because it’s a shed. And as a carpenter and joiner of nearly 20 years I can tell you it is not a nice looking shed either. Stop believing these people and do some research, maybe you’ll see there’s more to everything than what you see from who you think you can trust
I agree it’s somewhat agricultural looking
thats absolutley brilliant and something I think I could do with my wife, we are looking for something like this for our hot tub.
i sense a divorce could follow soon
Think with permitted development the structure needs to be 1m away from neighbours fence so shouldnt go hard up against it anyway
There’s a height restriction of you’re within 1 metre but I think it is allowed.
Tell our neighbour that who stuck his new garden room an inch away from the fence. No room for side maintenance.
@@TheStevenWhiting I’m pretty sure by law it’s 1m away from boundary
@@boyasaka fairy sure that only if it's over 15m2 internal floor space. If it's 15m2 or less then you can normally build as close to boundary as you like, so long as it's no higher than 2.5m. For me personally I'd want access for maintenance so wouldn't get that close but some people don't seem to consider that part.
Great project! I only miss the electric installation. Does it come with something pre installed or prepared?
No you have to run power and lights
It would be interesting to see another one on the electrical installation.
I was wondering about this also. Maybe the first fix is carried out as its assembled.
I also was wondering about that.
I might be wrong but it looks like recessed electrics would be almost impossible in this style of build so you would probably need to run all the wiring surface mounted in conduit either PVC or Galvanised steel for a more industrial feel. Lighting would be tricky too. Recessed Downlights would be a nightmare so some kind of surface mounted LED fitting would possibly be best. These kind of kits save DIYers a lot of money until they have to get electricians involved. 😅
I had a quick look at the website, and there does not seem to mention electrics or lighting. Strange
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✌️What electrics would be needed?
with such a well insulated building probably only lighting, perhaps a few cables for computers etc.
Unless using for accommodation, but then it’s not sold as accommodation it’s sold as a garden room.
nO TREES were killed in the making of this film..
Concrete base goes right up to both large trees as well as right up to the neighbour's fence, apart from that an enlightening video on construction techniques. To have such a beautiful Beech in your garden is more of an asset than this building will ever be .
What stops the bottom track filling with water when the rain drips down the outside walls?
I watched 'The restoration couple' channel. They used this on there workshop timber frame and cladded over, it looked very nice
Does anyone know the ceiling height and actual inside floor dimensions of this? the website is only gives basic dimensions
What they don't tell you is that even if the concrete base is of level by the slightest amount, and off square by so little, it's a nightmare when it gets to the last third. I've been doing sectional timber buildings for 23yrs. And it still amazes me what some people expect there new buildings to site on. And all there doors and windows to close absolutely fine. I must admit it looks very,very well done 👏
I did talk abou the importance of the base. A good laser helps.
I want one !!!! Not the outbuilding, a Skill Builder. It is now month 2 and I am still fitting my Wren Kitchen 🤣 Best thing I purchased for the job (and I did have big heavy screw clamps) were 2x short ratchet clamps, 2 medium and 2 long. Why didn't I get them before, I always needed them on other D.I.Y jobs ? Hey, I am a retired computer scientist, don't berate me, my wife does that one cupboard per day 😭🥴😂 I am almost finished and I tell her "Perfection takes time Mrs" 😎🤭😜
Tell her that she should not rush an artist
@@SkillBuilder My wife Sue had some choice words about my artistry after reading your comment. I won't repeat them 😆😅🤣😂 I am trying so very hard Buddy and she knows it. We have banter about how slow I have become. It is also a ploy and a very cunning plan. The more she asks for the kitchen the more I can let her know when I am fished "It's all yours darling!" 😎😂
With the roof the way it is, do you not get cold thermal bridging from the soffit over the door and then onto the inside, as your ceiling panel and soffit is the same bit of metal?
Good point
No dis respect you obviously no what your talking about could you explain why cold bridging would happened.
@kevin conboy Hi, I think it less of a problem than I originally thought, but because the ceiling and the soffit are made of the same bit of metal, when its cold outside, the cold will travel across the metal from the soffit over the door and inside. Basically the ceiling by the door will become cold, so you might get condensation damp.. There is no bridging from the top of the roof to the ceiling, just from the soffit to the ceiling
@@davidkelly4841 Thank you for replying, I see what you mean now. As Skillbuilder said in there reply it was a good spot by you and maybe the manufacturer needs to look into it. All the best Kevin 👍
And the same for all the U-shaped steel channels along the top and bottom of the wall, and around the doorway. I guess they're not building a passivehaus, and not expecting anyone to live in it during the winter.
**cough cough** *planning permission*
Don't always need it
Beautiful!
How much is the cost of kit?
Size of this?
What about electrics mate? Safe to drill through?
Yes, though I am not sure about the need to earth the metal building. It needs an electrician.
I'd buy one but I'm concerned about how to install the electrical wiring. Conduit is not nice to the eye. Maybe drill through the insulation and wire as the build takes place?
@Stephen Porter I've just bought two. Arriving soon. I'll have a think about the wiring when I get to that phase.
@@plan9channel7 I'd be interested to hear what you did for wiring on the end?
I installed conduit on the outside and drilled through for sockets and light fittings.
@@plan9channel7 thanks! What lighting did you use? I'm interested in downlights but I guess that is quite difficult
@@kes5755 Down lights are impossible. I used LED strip lights.
Thanks for sharing, Was it only super glued to the floor or did you use bolts? How much does a project like this cost?
You can see from the video that we bolted it. There is no superglue involved. All the details are in the description below the video.
No paint or treatment every 2 /3 years saving time and money.
How much would the door set be ?
Interesting to understand how you would do ceiling lights. If you chase the wires in then you will loose the integrity of the insulated roof and would then have to fill it with a PVC beeding or something. Maybe you just suck it up and have a wire running across the ceiling.
Also what about wall sockets... light switches etc.
Hmmm
Most use wall mounted LED track lighting place around the frond and back sides.
One thing bad with this design is the trays that you sit the walls into. Any rain that runs off the panels can run into the trays. Only for that issue it is a pretty cool design.
That is what the drainage gaps are for
The bottom trays are definitely a weak point. Water may drain out but there is no ventilation to dry out completely. The continuing dampness in the UK climate will find them out eventually. And they will sit on damp concrete.
I guess it’s battened out then dry walled for wiring etc? Cheers
Those roof panels look really interesting, save having to do joists and boarding etc, but I'll have to try work out if it's cheaper - they're very expensive!
Hi Roger, I have a question for you :Where the rainwater from the roof drains ?(And how?)
It runs off the back overhang
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Never seen a window fitter use a lump hammer to fit trim before. Maybe you should give him the rubber mallet you got for free.
I think that's Dillon the camera man.
£9 .400 without the doars and lecy. They materials would cost a grand of the shelf. 8 grand seems a lot to cut the panels to size.
I don't know anywhere that sells insulated panels of this type let alone the channels and corners pieces. There are many ways to build a garden room and this is just one of them. Some people think the convenience and build quality is worth it and others may not.
The market is the market and it decides.
@@SkillBuilder looks very similar to the insulated panels they use in small factory units,only up on end. Runners, capping pieces is all there exept the corner pieces, couldn't find them.£ 25 ms. Brilliant idea btw. Keep up the rant.lol
price? compared to wooden structure
How to build a garden room in 1 day: Take 2 weeks to build it.
I guess the foundation just shows up formed and poured. I hate titles like this that make people who are not builders have ridiculous expectations about what it takes for real men to build their structures. UA-cam has made people think they are journeymen in a variety of fields, and I assure you, they are not.
Great !!!, Bro insulation sandwich panel detail is extremely strong structural, A part in the sandwich takes note to resemble assembly fit in which flashing not raining into the home. Perhaps, Silicon should be fixed between sandwich panels. I was working sandwich panel field, and I think that sandwich panels are very defensive in the majority of weather, and geography following Standard theory approval in EN 14509: 2013 sandwich panel is a material empty steel structure for don't very defend much something different.
That looked like a great lesson. Would love to know if anyone has found an equivalent system that ships in the US.
I’m curious also
Really like this one Roger (and team) this is a winner everytime
I want one
Excellent tutorial thank you, how would one hang a TV or a air-conditioning unit or is it not possible, can you get one so you can have a separated storage room Thanks.
how do you get electricity into it and run wires around it?