You and Me 1938 Film Noir George Raft and Sylvia Sydney Directed by Fritz Lang
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- Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
- Not a typical film noir, it is quite a bit odd, something you don't usually see in most film noirs. It certainly has more of a trademark German expressionist look. It’s a part romantic comedy, part Depression-era drama, part Kurt Weill musical and part illustrated lecture that “Crime Does Not Pay.”
George Raft, a big star of the era who is often unfairly maligned by contemporary critics, gives one of his most vulnerable performances as Joe Dennis, an ex-convict who works at a Manhattan store whose owner Jerome Morris (western legend Harry Carey, cast wildly against type) believes in giving them a second break. What Joe doesn’t suspect is that Helen, the fellow employee who he briefly holds hands with as their escalators move in opposite directions. A swooningly romantic touch more like Frank Borzage than Lang. Joe is also out of stir (and, as the script would have it, is forbidden by her parole to date, much less marry Joe). A must Fritz Lang see.
Music by Kurt Weill. Cast: Barton MacLane, Mickey Bain, Harry Carey, Jerome Morris, Roscoe Karns, Warren Hymer, George E. Stone and Robert Cummings.
What a GREAT movie!!!!!!!!!! Thank you,Hollywood-TheGoldenAge,for showing this fine,film!! Nancy,Missouri.
George Raft!!! Thanks for uploading this movie!
beautiful musics by Kurt Weill!
I love it since it sets it apart from other Film Noirs. It's a forgotten gem.
Kurt Weil who wrote the music for One Touch of Venus.
Fritz Lang had style to burn. That opening!
Sylvia Sydney always brought something a little extra, a bit of that something special. This was one of those unknown gems that I've never seen before today. Thanks so much for bringing this to us.
Lovely movie from Fritz lang a good director of this kind of movies👀
That was a cute film. Is it just me, or is there something about Mr. Raft's eyes?
Meaning? George had gorgeous eyes. Large bedroom eyes.
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Yes
nectarofpeace, Great name, BTW! And no, it isn't just you; Raft had Very seductive eyes...get in line!!! 💔😁
I've been trying to see what colour his eyes may have been, but the B/W film and his Long eyelashes block my view.
Odd carry over to Hollywood from The Threepenny Opera in Germany at the start of the 30s. Great quality upload. Also great to watch for the holidays. How many figure Morris was Mister Big?
George Raft just look like Rudolph Valentino, many resemblance.
Valentino's ex-wife wanted George to take Valentino's place after he passed but George refused. He was friends with Valentino and didn't want to build his career on someone elses.
I have heard for many years that he has the look of Valentino but he is nothing like him so it's rightly so that he wouldn't want to do that that would not be wise actor name Antonio Marrero said he can't compete with a ghost
@@christineroberts5923 Obviously you have not seen enough of George Raft to compare. They looked like brothers. Try watching George Raft doing the French Tango in "Bolero" on my other UA-cam Channel. George lived longer and this movie was many years after Valentino. Time moved on and George did many movies where you couldn't compare with 1925 movies of Valentino. This movie is made 12 years after Valentino died. You don't even know what Valentino would have looked like in 1938. ua-cam.com/channels/ChkoRKEV8E9Adj_jUng07g.html
@@hollywood-thegoldenage5310 yes rightly so on that level because this was someone at the time when I was a kid didn't really know too much about him only when I had saw him on a Canada dry commercial back in the seventies so I asked my mom who is he she told me his name is George raft he play some gangster pictures so the only thing I can say on that matter is over time when I became a teenager I picked up a book called great romantic actors and he was in that book but they always emphasize him it's just a gangster actor but I know years later they started really picking up when his dancing abilities now the reason I said it wasn't a wise idea taking another actor's place on that level because it can make and break you in a profession so I agree that he has to look of him but I just didn't know that they were close friends because at that time with information that had on them I don't know who was really mentioned or not I really don't know at that point so you're right I'm just discovering him more his dancing abilities I never knew he was a good dancer also I really didn't know he was that good of a lover in the pictures so I rediscovering some things about him and I'm trying to really look at his pictures but as you know on the internet they try to stiff me on five pictures of him I want to see
@@hollywood-thegoldenage5310 yes I have saw bolero two months ago yes I love the picture yes I did checked out the dancing abilities very good very excellent Sharp and at the time I did check out the movie Broadway best tango I ever saw
nice old movie
I love this about film noir, time and time again: the stylish robbers! Men arrive to rob a store. They are wearing smart suits, shiny black shoes overcoats and hats. One guy wears his raincoat over his arm.
I love all the minute living details in this picture...it really gives you a sense of how they lived back then...Also did you know George George Raft was a REAL gangster in REAL LIFE? He started out with Oweny Maddy in the 20's. Oweny came from Leeds England. He soon rose through the ranks on the streets of New York eventually opening THE COTTON CLUB in Harlem; with Raft as his right hand man before Oweny sent him to Hollywood...Gangster for Sure...
Actually, he was not a gangster. Because he was born and raised in Hell's Kitchen, he knew some. Oweny Madden was a friend from their youth, though. Madden did not send George to Hollywood. George was not too thrilled to be playing gangsters in films. He was a dancer. That's how he got to Hollywood.
@@MusicLover6364 go and check again . He Was driving bootleg Whisky for oweny in the early days ...it IS wel documented !!!
@@Kenistyless He did drive occasionally for Owney Madden. Needed the money because he wasn't making enough money to survive, with his dancing performances. But he wasn't a gangster.
He wasn't Owney's right hand man, and Owney did not send him to Hollywood.
I don’t think so, another loony fan!😅
Well, it's a unuque film. 😄 (Pretty sure Carole Lombard was originally cast as Helen)
what th' ?!? 36 minutes into it before the story really starts.
What the matter Steve are you in a hurry? LOL, I guess it depends on what you think the story is. Personally being a female I liked the first 36 min. Georgie looked good falling in love with Sylvia. Whoa!
@@hollywood-thegoldenage5310 Your reply to Steve made me laugh! Cute... and thanks for this movie!
@@mimiluvfromsf I've been told I can be pretty humerous when necessary. Like every other comment I make. :-)
This isn't Short Attention Span Theater.
@@lilivonshtup3808 Play nice now but your right. It does get better as it goes. :-)
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Love this movie.
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I thought it was time to be seen by the public again. Many people have not seen it in years if ever past the 40's.
If you are reading this thread, you can see that most of the people that watched this film thought it was quite enjoyable. Unfortunately, for Lang and Paramount, however, it was a flop at the box office, and Lang eventually abandoned his stylistic Expressionistic touches in his subsequent films (except for cameo flashes here and there), and had to deal with smaller budgets, grade C actors, and grittier scripts.
Personally, I couldn't buy the plot premise that Joe would be all hot to want to rob the store whose boss provided him with a job just because his wife didn't tell him she was an ex-con. Why would a jailbird like Joe put on such airs? It doesn't make any sense.
Another scene that stretched credulity was the thieves' party reunion. You know the old saying, "No honor among thieves," these guys would not be sticking together after getting out of prison, let alone all get jobs at the same department store. And why would Joe's mob boss go through with the robbery that netted so little profit if he was warned by "Mr. Big" that to do so would bring on severe consequences?
In my view, this movie was pretty average at best (AllMovie gives it two and a half stars, imdb 6.9); Paramount was hoping for a Christmas, feel-good type movie hit here, but the script was full of holes and the choice of Lang as director was probably mostly due to the fact that Kurt Weill was involved. However, it was definitely the most oddball film noir I've ever seen.
Now, if you want to see a MUCH BETTER film noir with similar elements to this one, but without the cornball humor, check out Jean-Paul Melville's "Second Wind" ("Le deuxième souffle"). THAT film will keep you on the edge of your seat; "You and Me," OTOH, put me to sleep.
Lang didn't realize he had a gem in this movie. I believe it is a rare Film Noir with good music throughout the movie. A bit unusual.
@GH3K3: J-P Melville 's "Le Deuxieme Souffle" can't compare with this film because screenwriter, Jose Giovanni born Joseph Damiani was a real-life WW II collaborator, murderer, gandster & blackmailer of hidden Jews during France's Occupation. Proud of being a former gangster & Milice member (underground paramilitary fascist collaborationist group), who was on death row, he wrote about his experiences which became the source material for several films through his books. Celebrated films whose screenwriter & dialogue writer he was include "Le Trou" (1960), "Classes Tous Risque" (1960), "In nomme LaRocca" (1961), "Les Grandes Gueules" (1965), "Les Aventuriers" (1967), "Les clans Des Siciliens" (1969), "Deux hommes dans la ville" (1973). The films cited have superb casts who make the director's work come alive in their portrayals of the characters on the written page.
Two Jews, Fritz Lang & Kurt Weill --- already famous in Weimar Germany, escaped the Nazis & brought their artistic visions & talents with them. Luckily for us, we can still enjoy their work today.
@@pearlbrandwein4731 It's been so long, I have completely forgotten this piece of crap. So your argument is that this film is better because of the writer's prior history of derring do during the war? I will agree "Le Trou" was better than this snooze fest as that is the only film of those mentioned that I have seen.
@@GH3K3 I highly recommend the films mentioned primarily because they had great directors who worked with superb casts making the scripts come alive. The pre-Code & post-Code eras in American filmmaking are as different as night & day which is reflected in scripts, acting & directing. Those working in the post-Code era had handcuffs on which were later replaced by HUAC. Fritz Lang began in the "Golden Age" of Germany's Weimar cinema where he transitioned from silent films to talkies. As a contemporary of Murnau, Robison & other early directors, he employed the uniquely late-19th Century German Expressionist directorial/artistic/cinematographic style to tell a story. Examples of classic films include "M," "The Informer," & others. The Weimar cinematic visionaries had an important impact on post-WW II American & European filmmaking.
@@pearlbrandwein4731 Yes, I am quite familiar with the history of American cinema.
I love Sylvia
in this. Come to think of it, I love her in just about anything...
She was the elderly grandmother Florence Norris in MARS ATTACKS who played her part in killing off the aliens with the soulful music.
Me too. Seeing her so young here and in later years as a seasoned veteran. Gotta love her talent.
Me toooo❤
SUIT AND TIE IS A MUST WHILE WATCHING THIS MOVIE LOVE THE WAY HE HOLDS THE GIRL WHILE HIS DANCING WITH HER MR RAFT SURE KNEW HOW TO TREAT THE LADIES
You betcha! As sexy as he was he was always a Classy man.
Ladies was In past...
@@nikodimser8225 LADIES ARE LADIES ALWAYS AMEN THERE IS NOTHING LIKE THE SMELL OF A LADY WOMAN AND HER BEAUTY ALL WOMEN ARE BEAUTIFUL AMEN 💖🙏
Great direction by Fritz Lang, who displays a humorous vein such as I had not witnessed in any other of his films, both in the USA and abroad. Career best performances from Raft and Sidney, wonderful expressionistic cinematography. Must-see. Thanks for sharing.
It's strange but Lang didn't like this movie but now it is a little gem. Such an unusual Flim Noir set to music. Raft and Sydney were good in this movie but not enough people have seen it since it's not on TV anymore. That's why I uploaded here.
What made these movies great were also the performances of all the supporting cast each one excellent in their roles
Agree. There are almost no character actors in films anymore or the sidekick.
@@eveyholmes AGREE PLEASE KEEP SAFE GOD BLESS YOU HOLMES FROM DR WATSON
Same to you.
That song at 17:50 is pure Weill. Kept thinking of Lotta Lenya singing it.
Thank you for posting this! It's sometimes a struggle finding George Raft films, and a VHS of this film fell into my hands. Unfortunately, I don't have a player, so you can imagine how happy I was to find this!
Fun movie with all the trademark soapboxing of the era!
Why not join my FB group for George. I show every movie I can of Rafts. I even have a private Theater for him. The link should be in the description.
It's a cute movie. I can not believe that was directed by Fritz Lang
It is also a rare gem for a Film Noir. That's why I had to put it up. One of the few that had music in it and by Kurt Wiel too.
George Raft, the forgotten STAR.
I All Way Like George ❤️ Dark And Mysterious
Thank for going to all this work. I love Raft and having all these films of his is a treasure.
I'm glad to see you joined the group. You will learn more about Mr. Raft.
FINALLY a film where George doesn't die (I may be foolin' so don't count this as a spoiler!)
Thanks for posting!
He didn't always come to a sticky end. It just seems that way.
Lovely uplifting movie!! Terrific performances by Sidney, Raft and everybody!! Excellent, interesting directing by Fritz Lang!
and to think Fritz hated this one. Yet in retrospect, it is a little known gem.
Brilliant film !!!! Top-notch acting by seasoned veterans and innovative direction by Fritz Lang. Music by Kurt Weill is just the cherry on the icing -- so to speak. Wow, what a classic !!!!illiant film !!!
as someone else commented it's a hidden gem.
Raft, Sylvia, MacLaine!!!! Love this movie thank you
Add music by Kurt Weill and you've got a classic of the era.
Thanks for the upload.
You are very welcome. I love this unusual Film-Noir too.
un film formidable
TY for this post. It seems this project went thru a lot of changes in almost 2 years of pre-production. Not really sure how much of this music is Kurt Weill. Krasna expected to direct but the film fell into Lang's lap. And, for once, pan faced Raft emotes a bit. I do remember Lang thought it was a lousy film. But it may be a key to understanding Lang in 1938. v
Lang didn't like the film but it has become a classic and one of the only Film Noir's set to music, quite original. How dare you call my man pan faced on my Channel for him? LOL The shame is George was very animated in his 30's films the ones no one gets to see on TV anymore. I'll be putting more of those up so everyone will know he could emote a lot more then they knew. Maybe you should join my Group for George I emote a lot!! :-)
...wow, the forgiveness at the end was awesome 👏...
Absolutely loved it. Thank you for uploading ... Again!!! 👏🏼😀💫🍾
You are more than welcome, again.:-)
Very cute story and the acting is just fine.
Thank You so Much ♥️ ❤❤
Great movie!
a hidden gem.
Great movie..love my George!
Thank you very much!
I taped this movie in 88', and loved it !!!
and it was never seen again onTV. That's why I uploaded it here. Most of George's better movies are not shown on TV for a long time now. What a shame.
Love the landlady.
Whoa, this film is pretty sophisticated in its production values for a 1938 Paramount B-picture. Wasn't Fritz Lang's Hollywood career near its end by the time this was made, or it not wasn't it floundering? Thanks for posting it, by the way - it's a great gem!
No, it wasn't he made maybe another 20 more movies but it was his only Proto Noir set to music. Quite unusual and he thought it was not a good movie but over time it turned out to be not only good but quite unique. I'm glad to post it since I have George Raft's FB Group to keep his legacy alive and many people have forgotten all he did do in the Golden Age of Hollywood. Look how people forgot this little gem.
After I watched this, I found a long interview with Ms. Sidney that was pretty good (bad sound and she wasn't wearing anything to assist her own hearing, which was actually pretty hilarious in spots). I LOVE GEORGE RAFT, zomg, I found a clip from "Broadway" where he does a super-fast version of his "Sweet Georgia Brown" dance, and I was knocked out by it! What's the name of your George Raft FB group - I'd love to join!
@@l.a.gothro3999 Sylvia always told it like it is. I believe she's a Leo she's a bit like me since I'm a Leo too. LOL When you get into the group you'll find it's a bit unique with me as the Admin. I also tell it like it is. Please join the group so you can stop watching everyone else's dance video's on UA-cam. I have my own Channel for George's dance clips that I edit but we can talk about when you join. ;-) Here's the link facebook.com/groups/414481055641108/
@@l.a.gothro3999 BTW give me the high sign to let me know who you are when you put in your request. I'm giving you the link to my other YT Channel I edit for George's dance clips to, knock yourself out go for it. LOL ua-cam.com/channels/ChkoRKEV8E9Adj_jUng07g.html
I never saw this Raft flick, he can blend the tuff guy with the sentimental softy very well. Hope there will be more George to come. Tku for post.
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Have you seen The Pick Up with these two? Very sweet.
@@laurakibben4147 Not sure, I will look into it, thank you.
GREAT MOVIE THEY DONT MAKE THEM LIKE THAT ANYMORE
A great classic that's very much deserving a rating of 10.
Misery loves company he doing good working then you got the devil 😈 want him to start pulling crime they can pull all the crime they want to they don't need him
I'm thinking The Pick Up with them is better but we'll see.
THANKS UPLOADER!!!!!
Our pleasure!
I dont get why she has to lie about she's on parole he told her he was she could had told him
Per favore i sottotitoli in Italiano grazie 😊
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GOOD SOUND QUALITY
Thanks, I try my best. I even have made a sound clip stereo or double the volume separately if I have to and then put it back :-) This one came good but sooner or later I may have to put inferior quality since I don't have the originals. Neither do the studios.
I've just found out about sylvia and think I've found who I was in a past life. Seeing the pictures of her next to pictures of mine kinda creeps me out because of how similar we look 😍
Thank you for film noir, the French Directors along with Hollywood made good quality films. No pedophilia , or kids exploitation type crap. TCM rules !
You are very welcome. Stay tuned I have more.
Lol no kid exploitation!? How do you think Shirley Temple became a star????