"It accidentally got out of the lab," says Sen. Rand Paul. Watch the full replay of Paul's conversation with Reason's Zach Weissmueller: • Rand Paul on the lab l...
They have become the very last place to go [if at all]. If it was them vs a bush doctor somewhere west of Nairobi, it comes down to a coin toss probably - but I would listen to the bush doctor in full first. But to focus on the here and now regarding patients in the US: is your doctor practicing medicine or...CDC?
No, it can't be done. The concentration of all Federal funding of research projects in the USA through the desk of the head of the NIAID is a fundamental problem. That position has far too much power. These agencies need to be torn apart and the federal grant approval process needs to be decentralized. We have a real problem with DARPA exercising influence and control over what are ostensibly civilian research projects. The Pentagon and the Intelligence Community need to be firewalled off from the civilian research grant approval process. Those btards have their own black budgets. They have no legitimate business directing the civilian research funding process too.
It's the same problem in all scientific research - them that pays the bills get the answers they want. Covid brought it out in the open but it was quickly shoved back into darkness.
The problem is nobody's in jail nobody's being held accountable..... I like senator paul - the problem is he's only talking, no action. And I'm afraid this is - talk
Not necessarily, Communists have a long history of being apocalyptically incompetent. Just look at Chernobyl, “the Great Leap Forward”, or the Aral Sea.
@@Ayreez1 Event 201 Fauci saying, "There will be a suprise outbreak in the comming adminastration" Insider trading Big pharma "brought to you by Pfizer" There are two types of people in this world. 1) Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
Just what did you expect? Rand Paul is engaged in theater. He is pretending to be a Libertarian again while claiming that the Leviathan can be reformed.
@@neilreynolds3858 Labs leak routinely. Knowing this, one has to question why such a lab was constructed in a major city which also happens to be the nexus of Chinese high speed rail. And, then there is more background information about this particular facility. It was designed and built by the French with a cooperative operation agreement. But the French were summarilly dismissed and excluded from the construction site before the building was even commissioned. A major redesign and retrofit of the facility was undertaken by the Chinese in order to site a vivarium in this building; which was a clear signal that their actual use was fundamentally different than the design case that the French had undertaken with them in partnership. The French government allerted the CDC, the WHO, and the HHS to these design and construction changes at the WIV, and to what they had observed as flagrant violations of standard safety protocols at the WIV. These warnings were ignored. The Chinese military (PLA) have always been involved in the management of the WIV. After the outbreak in Wuhan, the pretense of a public private partnership was abandoned and the WIV officially became a military installation. In fact, it always was intended to be a bioweapons research facility. The civilian research ruse was used to secure funding, technology, and material that would never have been handed over to an overt bioweapons facility. The WIV also had and presumably still does have partner facilities where vivisection is undertaken under very lax SOP's. If the intention was LIHOP (Let It Happen On Purpose), then this would be the perfect vector to ensure that containment would be lost on a pre-defined schedule. Follow the money. Such a leak would have been practically impossible in the lab that was designed and built by the French. Repurposing the WIV by adding a vivarium and then outsourcing dissection of dead bats to other facilities was a transparent LIHOP strategy. Rand Paul knows all of this. He is play acting.
China should be forced to pay compensation, trillions of dollars. It is easy to make them pay, as they hold so much debt on other countries. We just need someone with the guts to take them to court and a fair judicial system that holds government to account.
Ah yes, we shall use an arm of the government to decide whether the government did something wrong, that's worked out so very well every other time we've tried it
@@UmaROMC I did point out that we need a fair judicial process. The problem is that if we just cancelled debts to China (which certainly should be done) without a judicial process then it will have many knock-on effects. Sadly the globalists have expanded the effective authority of the "international community".
I swear I had it in December of 2019. How you ask? Pheasant hunters from Wuhan came through my local area of Nebraska. How sure am I? I lost my sense of smell and taste, deep wet couch, and shortness of breath for 3 months. I'd never experienced an infection like this before.
I am with you. I was very sick in November 2019 a couple of weeks after traveling. Since that time, I have not been sick and haven't caught COVID.... Unless I had it in 2019.
foreignaffairs.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/ORIGINS-OF-COVID-19-REPORT.pdf See page 63 for starters. I have other sources and trying to find them right now.@@JamesHawkeUA-cam
@@JamesHawkeUA-cam He won't answer because he's just another idiot that has to disagree because Paul is under the Republican umbrella. Partisanship is all that matters to scumbags like @Jacob-yb6bv.
... Except that it was around before November 2019. There were samples taken from sick patients in September and October, in California for instance, that were reevaluated later in the pandemic and shown to be from that novel coronavirus.
What is your source for this, if you don't mind sharing? It would be a critical piece of evidence in the search for more than the irrelevant opinion of my Junior Senator, who desire having attended medical school has zero experience at all in the study of virology nor any interest in actually getting any truth other than what he already believes. He has clearly demonstrated a lack of concern when the stakes concern the lives of his constituents, but he has a great interest in his investment stake in Remdisiver. He only benefits when people need to be treated for COVID-19 and thus "his drug" is widely used.
@@TWE_2000 , I will have to look for the inflammation. I'm not saying it didn't come from China. I'm just saying that it got here sooner than people realize.
Dont think Paul is the best spokesperson for the Lab hypothesis. A real scientist in the relevant field who studied this meticulously is the best person to make sense of this.
@@ManicMindTrick Maybe they don't want to risk future grant money. At this point EVERYONE knows it was the lab, the only question is, was this an accident, or cassis belli? And I want to see ALL these lockdown tyrants held accountable.
Interesting that he is calling for more government oversight and laws and regulations. I wonder how this libertarian free market loving 'reasonTV' can handle such comments.
The anti-censorship crowd is now calling for more censorship. Nobody is sincere in their statements. Don't believe anything anybody says - go by their actions.
Award winning journalism hack: interview an Ophthalmologist about epidemiology. It's okay, you can just treat your audience as if they're too stupid to know the difference or even care.
I'm not a big Rand Paul fan, but he's still a doctor and more informed than most in the Senate, and he knows how the political machinations work. Also, fun fact, Anthony Fauci isn't an epidemiologist, either, but an immunologist.
@@k.s.nichols4060I have a friend who claims she had it way back in 2018. I decided there was no point in pointing out the flaw in that assertion. Regardless of what I might have tried to share as evidence, I doubt anything I thought of would have made any impact whatsoever. That's a sad, sad commentary on the times in which we are living.
i was in china (not wu han) june 2019. got sick after contact with some filthy sick dude in a shithole food shop. worst cough ever and never fully recovered.
He's an ophthalmologist. It's essential to get your facts straight if you wanna act like you're smarter than everyone else. I'd say nice try, but in all honesty, you stepped on your dik.
"Get the latest information from the CDC about COVID-19." What a joke.
They have become the very last place to go [if at all]. If it was them vs a bush doctor somewhere west of Nairobi, it comes down to a coin toss probably - but I would listen to the bush doctor in full first.
But to focus on the here and now regarding patients in the US: is your doctor practicing medicine or...CDC?
Get the latest deceptive misleading propaganda ...
Why can't we have a normal person like this as president?
Because our zero sum binary elections are designed to elect the worst candidates
because the public is not normal...
Because the name Rand is not normal?
@itsgoff He's more normal than those running for president.
@@Denozo88 RAND
Rand Paul is the best senator today
Closely followed by Sen. Kennedy from Louisiana.
No, it can't be done. The concentration of all Federal funding of research projects in the USA through the desk of the head of the NIAID is a fundamental problem. That position has far too much power. These agencies need to be torn apart and the federal grant approval process needs to be decentralized. We have a real problem with DARPA exercising influence and control over what are ostensibly civilian research projects. The Pentagon and the Intelligence Community need to be firewalled off from the civilian research grant approval process. Those btards have their own black budgets. They have no legitimate business directing the civilian research funding process too.
It's the same problem in all scientific research - them that pays the bills get the answers they want. Covid brought it out in the open but it was quickly shoved back into darkness.
Sachs already said it all...
Why isn't it called virulence amplification, since that's what gain-of-function is (without the positive connotations)?
That's only one of several enhancements that might be the goal of GoF research.
Imagine if the CCP was open, honest and respected individual rights, instead of the exact opposite.
The problem is nobody's in jail nobody's being held accountable..... I like senator paul - the problem is he's only talking, no action. And I'm afraid this is - talk
How did darpa already have a vaccine that they gave Johnson and Johnson
Does Reason still support the vax?
We need a comitee for a comitee for a...
I met someone who worked as a stevedore in the Port of San Diego who got covid in December 2019.
"It was an accident"😂 Didn't expect such naivety.
Not necessarily, Communists have a long history of being apocalyptically incompetent. Just look at Chernobyl, “the Great Leap Forward”, or the Aral Sea.
@@Ayreez1 Event 201
Fauci saying, "There will be a suprise outbreak in the comming adminastration"
Insider trading
Big pharma
"brought to you by Pfizer"
There are two types of people in this world. 1) Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
Just what did you expect? Rand Paul is engaged in theater. He is pretending to be a Libertarian again while claiming that the Leviathan can be reformed.
Yeah, I'm still suspicious that it was no accident.
@@neilreynolds3858 Labs leak routinely. Knowing this, one has to question why such a lab was constructed in a major city which also happens to be the nexus of Chinese high speed rail. And, then there is more background information about this particular facility. It was designed and built by the French with a cooperative operation agreement. But the French were summarilly dismissed and excluded from the construction site before the building was even commissioned. A major redesign and retrofit of the facility was undertaken by the Chinese in order to site a vivarium in this building; which was a clear signal that their actual use was fundamentally different than the design case that the French had undertaken with them in partnership.
The French government allerted the CDC, the WHO, and the HHS to these design and construction changes at the WIV, and to what they had observed as flagrant violations of standard safety protocols at the WIV. These warnings were ignored.
The Chinese military (PLA) have always been involved in the management of the WIV. After the outbreak in Wuhan, the pretense of a public private partnership was abandoned and the WIV officially became a military installation. In fact, it always was intended to be a bioweapons research facility. The civilian research ruse was used to secure funding, technology, and material that would never have been handed over to an overt bioweapons facility.
The WIV also had and presumably still does have partner facilities where vivisection is undertaken under very lax SOP's. If the intention was LIHOP (Let It Happen On Purpose), then this would be the perfect vector to ensure that containment would be lost on a pre-defined schedule.
Follow the money. Such a leak would have been practically impossible in the lab that was designed and built by the French. Repurposing the WIV by adding a vivarium and then outsourcing dissection of dead bats to other facilities was a transparent LIHOP strategy.
Rand Paul knows all of this. He is play acting.
Sounds like the General was played to develop a bio weapon then he was exterminated. My concern is what else they may have.
Almost none of what Rand Paul is saying is true. He's just grifting.
The US has been paying for all of this, so we should have some idea what is coming.
@@Scarycrowzz Why do you say that?
@@garyfrancis6193 He won't answer. He's just a dumbass kid attempting to troll.
The Chinese lab they found in the CA city of Reedley was working with HIV and Ebola at the very least.
Ive heard many theories, some sound very convincing, take your pick.
Hey, I'd love to see your videos on Odysee!
Thanks!
China should be forced to pay compensation, trillions of dollars. It is easy to make them pay, as they hold so much debt on other countries. We just need someone with the guts to take them to court and a fair judicial system that holds government to account.
Ah yes, we shall use an arm of the government to decide whether the government did something wrong, that's worked out so very well every other time we've tried it
@@UmaROMC I did point out that we need a fair judicial process. The problem is that if we just cancelled debts to China (which certainly should be done) without a judicial process then it will have many knock-on effects. Sadly the globalists have expanded the effective authority of the "international community".
remember it was the USA that was funding gain of function in china, both countries should be held accountable.
Bio weapon
Lets not forget Pfitzer has R&D center in Wuhan...
I swear I had it in December of 2019. How you ask? Pheasant hunters from Wuhan came through my local area of Nebraska. How sure am I? I lost my sense of smell and taste, deep wet couch, and shortness of breath for 3 months. I'd never experienced an infection like this before.
I am with you. I was very sick in November 2019 a couple of weeks after traveling. Since that time, I have not been sick and haven't caught COVID.... Unless I had it in 2019.
This is possible based on the dates he mentioned especially since a widely used market was a mile from the lab.
well, this ignores a lot of evidence.
what evidence?
foreignaffairs.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/ORIGINS-OF-COVID-19-REPORT.pdf See page 63 for starters. I have other sources and trying to find them right now.@@JamesHawkeUA-cam
Like what?
@@JamesHawkeUA-cam He won't answer because he's just another idiot that has to disagree because Paul is under the Republican umbrella. Partisanship is all that matters to scumbags like @Jacob-yb6bv.
... Except that it was around before November 2019. There were samples taken from sick patients in September and October, in California for instance, that were reevaluated later in the pandemic and shown to be from that novel coronavirus.
What is your source for this, if you don't mind sharing? It would be a critical piece of evidence in the search for more than the irrelevant opinion of my Junior Senator, who desire having attended medical school has zero experience at all in the study of virology nor any interest in actually getting any truth other than what he already believes. He has clearly demonstrated a lack of concern when the stakes concern the lives of his constituents, but he has a great interest in his investment stake in Remdisiver. He only benefits when people need to be treated for COVID-19 and thus "his drug" is widely used.
@@BlueKentuckyGirlHis source is "trust me bro"
How do you say "trust me bro" in CCP?
@@k.s.nichols4060 相信我，兄弟
@@TWE_2000 , I will have to look for the inflammation. I'm not saying it didn't come from China. I'm just saying that it got here sooner than people realize.
ReasonTV should get someone from the zoonosis side like Eddie Holmes to refute this, otherwise shame on you for using "Reason" in your name.
True. Just because R Paul says it… does not mean it’s true
@@prancer1803Well, at least I think we can assume it's not a willful lie.
Dont think Paul is the best spokesperson for the Lab hypothesis. A real scientist in the relevant field who studied this meticulously is the best person to make sense of this.
@@ManicMindTrick Maybe they don't want to risk future grant money. At this point EVERYONE knows it was the lab, the only question is, was this an accident, or cassis belli?
And I want to see ALL these lockdown tyrants held accountable.
Interesting that he is calling for more government oversight and laws and regulations. I wonder how this libertarian free market loving 'reasonTV' can handle such comments.
Seems like they did fine to me, far better than you seem to be handling it.
The anti-censorship crowd is now calling for more censorship. Nobody is sincere in their statements. Don't believe anything anybody says - go by their actions.
Reasonable and minimal is what most free market libertarians want out of a government.
Award winning journalism hack: interview an Ophthalmologist about epidemiology. It's okay, you can just treat your audience as if they're too stupid to know the difference or even care.
Where's the hack? Troll. Rand paul does know how medical research works
I'm not a big Rand Paul fan, but he's still a doctor and more informed than most in the Senate, and he knows how the political machinations work. Also, fun fact, Anthony Fauci isn't an epidemiologist, either, but an immunologist.
C19 started earlier. All symptoms I had in May 2019
No you didn't. It was probably just the flu.
You had cold and flu symptoms in May 2019?
@@k.s.nichols4060I have a friend who claims she had it way back in 2018. I decided there was no point in pointing out the flaw in that assertion. Regardless of what I might have tried to share as evidence, I doubt anything I thought of would have made any impact whatsoever. That's a sad, sad commentary on the times in which we are living.
i was in china (not wu han) june 2019. got sick after contact with some filthy sick dude in a shithole food shop. worst cough ever and never fully recovered.
@@ijustwannaleaveacommentony6511You ate food prepared with gutter oil and had cold or flu symptoms? Who could have foreseen?
It sounds like some hand waving exposition from a sci-fi movie that hopes you will just get bored and pretend like it makes sense.
24 hours after Milei won. Still no word from Reason. Simps just want that DC cocktail hour bathwater.
In other words, Rand Paul STILL thinks that we're all covidiots.
He ain’t wrong. You may know the origins but 50% of Americans believe the narrative they were told.
I don't get your point here. Are you saying he's a liar? Or are you admitting that you're an idiot?
Aren't we?
"Reason" does not seem to be a quality he has in his arsenal.
Right. Wear your mask. Keep 6' apart. Get your booster.
This is what a bunch of BS
Used to think Rand Paul was different but he's just saying next to nothing about doing next to nothing
Thank god the dentist showed up to speak on epidemiology….. 🙄
He's an ophthalmologist. It's essential to get your facts straight if you wanna act like you're smarter than everyone else. I'd say nice try, but in all honesty, you stepped on your dik.
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