Omg you solved my keiki problem, I can't thank you enough. I don't know why I haven't ever come across that information before but I have been perpetually frustrated coming into spring with 2 flowers and a ton of keikis. I usually feed a very weak solution over winter and have explosive vegetative growth in the growing season but no flowers. I also don't think I am keeping them cool long enough.
I'm so glad that was helpful! Not feeding during the rest period will really help with the flower count. If you think about it, they flower to reproduce, and when you don't feed them and reduce their water, they sorry of "panic" to make sure they survive and they do this by flowering. They do this in nature just in case to ensure survival. I hope you have a nice flush of blooms this year!!
That was great information. I only have Dendrobium anosmum. It has never bloomed for me. It’s been outside all summer. So I guess I should just leave it outside until the first frost. I will do that. I’ll leave it outside until the temperature gets to about 45 degrees. It doesn’t get much fertilizer because it is on a mount. Thanks for sharing this information. 🤗👍🌸🦋
You're very welcome! Let me know how it does! 45 degrees sounds perfect. The anosmums don't like it quite as cold as the nobile so I think 45 will do the trick. Keep me posted in the comments as we head into spring how the Anosmum does for you!
Great information 👌. Funny to hear you talk about winter rest, as September and October are still warm and bright here. On the other hand springs are cooler here and sometimes I feel it's still winter with longer and brighter days 🙃 Amazing climate differances, amazing Earth. Beijinhos 😘
So funny! I agree it's completely environment dependent when you can give these guys a rest. Here it starts early and they bloom sooner. I'd love a milder fall, these temps don't last very long. New York is usually a hot brutal summer, short fall, long winter and short spring 😂
Great info! Tk you. From your experience with the Keikis- I have 3 nice size Keikis on my anosmum, it’s still warm in Fl, will go into winter rest in Nov- would you remove the Keikis now and continue growing them thru the winter or leave them on till Spring. I know you took off 3 from your Nobile last yr about this time- how did they do? Thanks again!
If they are nicely sized, there's no harm in removing them now if you can keep them a bit warmer indoors. I gave the keikis away, and I know that two of them are doing well, two are getting much larger. One died unfortunately.
They usually have a leaf that looks terminal. Hard to describe but it's flat and you can tell that no more leaves will come it kind of doesn't have an opening for more leaves.
Hi Nicole, about fertilizer, do you consider CalMag and Seaweed supplements as being "fertilizers" such that 200ppm includes those supplements and NPK ? I have been giving my orchids 200ppm of NPK and the recommended quantity of calmag and seaweed on top of that. I never considered calmag and seaweed as being fertilizers. Am I wrong ? Thanks Nicole, when you put your plants on the fire escape are they bothered by wasps ? I am expecting 4 new orchids this afternoon, an oncidium mayfair trinity, a rossioglossum rawdon, a phal little-one and a psychopsis kalihi !!!! They will be delivered unboxed fresh from the greenhouse this morning, it’s called Plantrunz delivery.
I personally do consider them as "feed" and don't provide them during the rest period. I actually count the tds including the total additions as I find that I'm feeding them at this point. Some growers do this differently though, and i know some growers that don't consider calmag as feed and they flush with calmag! I wouldn't say what you're doing is wrong, as you have to see how it works out for you long term. If you've been doing this in the last 6 months and you see good results, keep it up! If you have mixed results, tweaking it would be good. On the seaweed side, I'd avoid it during the rest since it acts as a growth hormone. I also don't use it during winter. My plants don't get wasps here thankfully. I'm on a pretty busy street. I haven't noticed pests. Excited to hear more about your new additions! Keep me posted in future comments!!!
Hi Nicole! Thank you so much for this video! I didn't know about the terminal leaf! I live in a NYC apartment as well. My orchid collection expanded a lot during the pandemic. Prior to the pandemic, I just had two phalaenopsis. Amongst the collection, I currently have three deciduous dendrobiums, a dendrobium parishii, a dendrobium nobile, and a dendrobium loddigesii. I've been worried about getting the winter rest wrong, particularly with watering it less. I have a few questions. Do you let the media go completely and then give just a quick run of water? Given that watering will be tapered off, I'm assuming you bring the orchids in from the fire escape when it rains. Correct? Lastly, this spring, I potted two keikis from my dendrobium nobile. I don't think one of them is going to make it because the last leaf stopped growing and browned. The other is doing really well with good roots and the cane is small but plump. I just looked and it has a terminal leaf. Since it's a keiki and not a seedling, would you slow down the watering and give it a winter rest? Thanks!
Thanks so much for watching! Glad it was helpful to a fellow New Yorker! They will grow well for you! With regards to the water, yes, I let it go completely dry before watering. Sometimes it'll get water every two weeks or even longer. The reason I found out water isn't detrimental to the orchids is for that reason you mentioned, it rained on them a few times and I forgot to bring them in lol. I do try to bring them in if I know it's going to rain because cool + wet isn't the best combo if there's night time rain. When I water, it's during the morning when there's still light so it'll start drying, and not be soaking wet by the cooler nightfall if that makes sense. For the keiki, it's still very young, leave it inside until it's bigger. No rest for the little guys till they are closer to the size of the adult. Hope this helps and happy growing. Our humid summers really give the orchids a nice boost and they grow well here indoors.
Thank you Nicole this is great information because now I know what I'm doing wrong with my dendrochilum kingianum lol. Have a great day keep safe and happy growing : ) Reah
Nice! It finally cooled down here to 60s at night after the hurricane! It's been 90s non stop till then. I can see your orchids going dormant earlier. It's very environment dependent!
On the nobile they have a terminal leaf that looks different from the rest. On the Anosmum and others, I'd say that you just need to notice that if cane stopped growing and you're not seeing more leaves develop. You don't need to rush the rest period until you're have certainty your orchid has matured. If in doubt water as usual and give it another two weeks to see if a leaf develops. I hope this helps!
Of course! I leave them out 24/7 once I put them out, so the day will be warmer, but the night will be colder. I'd say for the nobile I leave it till just before the first frost and that's 6-8 weeks and I see buds. For the anosmums I bring them in and keep them in a drafty cooler window, and they don't bloom till around January / Feb - the rest/ cooler temps for these lasts around 3-4 months.
@@NicoleDeanna thanks for this. I moved some of my phals to my down stairs cooler area where the windows bring in 50 degree weather but in the day it is 70's. And I will be watching my Nobile and seeing if she is still producing new leaves. I have so many damn squirrels in my yard I would be afraid leaving her in my yard gazebo for the cool. She would love it. So I will have to find a spot for her. Fireplace comes on usually near October so then my cool zone gets dry and hot. I will open up my other bedroom and make that a cool off place. I can put in a grow bulb in the ceiling fixture and so she will get light. I think that may work. Still processing the correct Winter Rest. I failed to do it last year and didn't get any blooms this year. Peace to you.
Yes, you can just keep it outside and let nature do it's thing! Just don't add any extra feed. Many growers have their nobiles attached to their trees down there (I envy this 🥲) it'll do well with the chill down there.
Omg you solved my keiki problem, I can't thank you enough. I don't know why I haven't ever come across that information before but I have been perpetually frustrated coming into spring with 2 flowers and a ton of keikis. I usually feed a very weak solution over winter and have explosive vegetative growth in the growing season but no flowers. I also don't think I am keeping them cool long enough.
I'm so glad that was helpful! Not feeding during the rest period will really help with the flower count. If you think about it, they flower to reproduce, and when you don't feed them and reduce their water, they sorry of "panic" to make sure they survive and they do this by flowering. They do this in nature just in case to ensure survival. I hope you have a nice flush of blooms this year!!
Thanks for sharing, I appreciate your time.
Anytime Michelle!!
Great information, very helpful, keep up the great work. I learned a lot, but for now I have so many keikies to supply all of you 😊
:)) thank you for watching!
Thanks a lot for the valueable infos.
Great information
I just started checking on mine!
We are almost there!!
That was great information. I only have Dendrobium anosmum. It has never bloomed for me. It’s been outside all summer. So I guess I should just leave it outside until the first frost. I will do that. I’ll leave it outside until the temperature gets to about 45 degrees. It doesn’t get much fertilizer because it is on a mount. Thanks for sharing this information. 🤗👍🌸🦋
You're very welcome! Let me know how it does! 45 degrees sounds perfect. The anosmums don't like it quite as cold as the nobile so I think 45 will do the trick. Keep me posted in the comments as we head into spring how the Anosmum does for you!
okay, i finished watching your video and you explained it very well. thank you.
I'm glad it was helpful. Thanks for watching!
Good information. I'm going to put mine on the deck. My kingianum smells like honey.
Nice! I can't wait to bloom mine! Honey fragrance is wonderful! Happy growing and looking forward to seeing yours on IG 😊
Thank you for posting such informative videos. You have a super cool collection!
Thanks so much! Appreciate you watching 🤓
Great information 👌. Funny to hear you talk about winter rest, as September and October are still warm and bright here. On the other hand springs are cooler here and sometimes I feel it's still winter with longer and brighter days 🙃 Amazing climate differances, amazing Earth. Beijinhos 😘
So funny! I agree it's completely environment dependent when you can give these guys a rest. Here it starts early and they bloom sooner. I'd love a milder fall, these temps don't last very long. New York is usually a hot brutal summer, short fall, long winter and short spring 😂
Beautiful👍🏻👌❤
Thank you 🌺❤️
Great info! Tk you. From your experience with the Keikis- I have 3 nice size Keikis on my anosmum, it’s still warm in Fl, will go into winter rest in Nov- would you remove the Keikis now and continue growing them thru the winter or leave them on till Spring. I know you took off 3 from your Nobile last yr about this time- how did they do? Thanks again!
If they are nicely sized, there's no harm in removing them now if you can keep them a bit warmer indoors. I gave the keikis away, and I know that two of them are doing well, two are getting much larger. One died unfortunately.
How do you know if the new growths on nobile is mature?
They usually have a leaf that looks terminal. Hard to describe but it's flat and you can tell that no more leaves will come it kind of doesn't have an opening for more leaves.
I’m so afraid to not water my nobile. So mist the leaves or roots when in their dry out cycle ?
Hi Nicole, about fertilizer, do you consider CalMag and Seaweed supplements as being "fertilizers" such that 200ppm includes those supplements and NPK ? I have been giving my orchids 200ppm of NPK and the recommended quantity of calmag and seaweed on top of that. I never considered calmag and seaweed as being fertilizers. Am I wrong ? Thanks Nicole, when you put your plants on the fire escape are they bothered by wasps ? I am expecting 4 new orchids this afternoon, an oncidium mayfair trinity, a rossioglossum rawdon, a phal little-one and a psychopsis kalihi !!!! They will be delivered unboxed fresh from the greenhouse this morning, it’s called Plantrunz delivery.
I personally do consider them as "feed" and don't provide them during the rest period. I actually count the tds including the total additions as I find that I'm feeding them at this point. Some growers do this differently though, and i know some growers that don't consider calmag as feed and they flush with calmag! I wouldn't say what you're doing is wrong, as you have to see how it works out for you long term. If you've been doing this in the last 6 months and you see good results, keep it up! If you have mixed results, tweaking it would be good. On the seaweed side, I'd avoid it during the rest since it acts as a growth hormone. I also don't use it during winter.
My plants don't get wasps here thankfully. I'm on a pretty busy street. I haven't noticed pests. Excited to hear more about your new additions! Keep me posted in future comments!!!
Hi Nicole! Thank you so much for this video! I didn't know about the terminal leaf! I live in a NYC apartment as well. My orchid collection expanded a lot during the pandemic. Prior to the pandemic, I just had two phalaenopsis. Amongst the collection, I currently have three deciduous dendrobiums, a dendrobium parishii, a dendrobium nobile, and a dendrobium loddigesii. I've been worried about getting the winter rest wrong, particularly with watering it less. I have a few questions. Do you let the media go completely and then give just a quick run of water? Given that watering will be tapered off, I'm assuming you bring the orchids in from the fire escape when it rains. Correct? Lastly, this spring, I potted two keikis from my dendrobium nobile. I don't think one of them is going to make it because the last leaf stopped growing and browned. The other is doing really well with good roots and the cane is small but plump. I just looked and it has a terminal leaf. Since it's a keiki and not a seedling, would you slow down the watering and give it a winter rest? Thanks!
Thanks so much for watching! Glad it was helpful to a fellow New Yorker! They will grow well for you! With regards to the water, yes, I let it go completely dry before watering. Sometimes it'll get water every two weeks or even longer. The reason I found out water isn't detrimental to the orchids is for that reason you mentioned, it rained on them a few times and I forgot to bring them in lol. I do try to bring them in if I know it's going to rain because cool + wet isn't the best combo if there's night time rain. When I water, it's during the morning when there's still light so it'll start drying, and not be soaking wet by the cooler nightfall if that makes sense.
For the keiki, it's still very young, leave it inside until it's bigger. No rest for the little guys till they are closer to the size of the adult. Hope this helps and happy growing. Our humid summers really give the orchids a nice boost and they grow well here indoors.
@@NicoleDeanna Thank you!
Thank you Nicole this is great information because now I know what I'm doing wrong with my dendrochilum kingianum lol. Have a great day keep safe and happy growing : ) Reah
Thank you Rhea! Keep me posted on your kingianum!!
@@NicoleDeanna will do Nicole : )
We’ve dropped to 50s in the night and my orchid room dens are yellowing and dropping leaves. It’s been 75 in the day.
Nice! It finally cooled down here to 60s at night after the hurricane! It's been 90s non stop till then. I can see your orchids going dormant earlier. It's very environment dependent!
how do you know when they have stopped growing. i have several and i see new growth at the top.
On the nobile they have a terminal leaf that looks different from the rest. On the Anosmum and others, I'd say that you just need to notice that if cane stopped growing and you're not seeing more leaves develop. You don't need to rush the rest period until you're have certainty your orchid has matured. If in doubt water as usual and give it another two weeks to see if a leaf develops. I hope this helps!
Can you clarify, you leave them outside 24 hours not just at night? And for how many weeks on an average will the cool dry season be for you?
Of course! I leave them out 24/7 once I put them out, so the day will be warmer, but the night will be colder. I'd say for the nobile I leave it till just before the first frost and that's 6-8 weeks and I see buds. For the anosmums I bring them in and keep them in a drafty cooler window, and they don't bloom till around January / Feb - the rest/ cooler temps for these lasts around 3-4 months.
In short I rest then till I see buds or keikis then water regularly
@@NicoleDeanna thanks for this. I moved some of my phals to my down stairs cooler area where the windows bring in 50 degree weather but in the day it is 70's. And I will be watching my Nobile and seeing if she is still producing new leaves. I have so many damn squirrels in my yard I would be afraid leaving her in my yard gazebo for the cool. She would love it. So I will have to find a spot for her. Fireplace comes on usually near October so then my cool zone gets dry and hot. I will open up my other bedroom and make that a cool off place. I can put in a grow bulb in the ceiling fixture and so she will get light. I think that may work. Still processing the correct Winter Rest. I failed to do it last year and didn't get any blooms this year. Peace to you.
@@michelleslifeonrepeat sounds like the adjustments will work well to me!
I made the same mistake I continue to fertilize and water. I had so many kakies
Hope you get more blooms this year! Btw, I finally repotted the seedlings, they are all adapting really well ❤️
@@NicoleDeanna I know. I saw the video!!
@@NicoleDeanna I am glad they are doing good.
I like that. Does it go for me, im in south Florida
Yes, you can just keep it outside and let nature do it's thing! Just don't add any extra feed. Many growers have their nobiles attached to their trees down there (I envy this 🥲) it'll do well with the chill down there.
I don't attach to palms. We have alot of storms and high winds. They can gett torn off easly. I do have alot of bare root orchids in hanging planters