Nice looking. Wish it was around couple years ago. built my own long ago with AOC 13 inch display, R-pi 4 4gb, vesa rpi mount, usb keyboard and mouse & touch overlay from old Fujitsu tablet. $189 not counting the donated touch screen.
It's a lot really. Could just attach the Pi to the VESA mount on the back of a monitor, then get a keyboard and mouse to achieve the same thing really.
Yeah I was shocked by the price, too. You can get a portable 15,6" Touchscreen for ~ 150$ If you add the pi, SSD and a keyboard to it you are looking at another 100$ maybe. But that is consumer prices. 🤷🏻♂️
Could you show devices like this running a suite of office apps on the future, please? I don't know much about using a Raspberry PI as a productivity device, so Office software, connecting and printing from several regular and commonly-found printers, photo/picture editing/drawing, file managers, access to Google Drive, connecting exHDs, etc would be great. Cheers.
Those will work just fine, but printers is going a bit tricky because you have to make sure to find correct driver to install. CUPS might be a solution for that. Picture editing is also just fine, but not with video editing because the GPU is not be able to handle heavy task on GPU IMO
Unjustifiable at that price. It's in the range of a low end AIO windows PC (and double the cost of second hand one). The whole point of RPI is its low cost. Charging the same as a (much better) PC is absurd.
My thoughts exactly, would be perfect for a touch enabled home dashboard or control center but the price comes up to a comparable old monitor and a recycled office PC which will give much better performance
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Too bad Raspberry pulled a OnePlus and now it's nowhere near as cheap as it was back in the Pi1 days. Well, unless you are okay with the Pi Zero's performance. Too bad there's really no competition if you consider the software support and community where the Raspberry is miles ahead everyone else.
@ You have to admit, that first pi was really near useless for most tasks. For use as a microcontroller it was fine, but it had no practical use as a dedicated computer. I mean 256/512mb of ram in 2012 was near useless (again, outside of dedicated microcontroller style tasks). At least the Pi4 can be used for many desktop computing tasks.
happy this exists, questions the price, though its not unreasonable considering that technically this is more upgradable than most all in one computers, im fairly certain they'll continue using the cm4 connector for awhile.
Still waiting for any company to come up with a solution for remote classes. The market in developing countries needs it. This one is almost there, the only thing that is missing is a webcam.
I like how they didn't change the packaging from the monitor they modified (in which they presumably ordered the monitor without the control board in bulk on Alibaba, then installed their own Pi carrier board themselves).
yep, i was playin on my bedroom with steamlink on a Py 3 plugged on the tv with my xbox one controller while my main tower is still on the living room on my simrig. Now i just use my laptop but it was good enough to play any of my games even non steam games, pick and read any movies on my nas or any other devices. SD cards is very slow i need try with a ssd one of these days
How did they facilitate the HDMI connection internally? Is it all integrated and just an LVDS or similar cable to the display? Or is there an HDMI interface board separate from the CM4 carrier board?
@@benonyangore1536 yep I agree w u.. those cheap still selling AMD A4-9120 Radeon R3 laptops that equal in power to Intel Core Duo E8400 and Nvidia GTX 7800.. those could do good up to some 6th generation light emulation or playing games up to 2005 at max settings.
That tends to be the problem with many Pi-derived products unfortunately. The 4(00) is/are pretty decent value by themselves (including cooling for the 4 and the accessories you need to buy for them, if any) but with the products built around them, you can get better performance (and generally better all round, for the most part) for lower cost. If you’re building and designing the products yourself though, that’s something else but getting them prebuilt, I struggle to see why anyone would.
Interesting and might be a great option for anybody requiring ARM architecture for local development. But costing more than $300 means that it must compete with cheap laptops with Intel Celeron N4020 @ 1.10GH. In my local market I know people would rather get the laptop than an AIO display.
When it comes to retro games you always improve it by installing your own Program. The image looks good and this is must have for someone in budget 😎👍🏽👌🏽💯💯💯
While I am comfortable grabbing an off lease office machine, adding ram, slotting an SSD in and a budget (in this climate? HA!) graphics card in? Not everyone is, and something like this represents a good option for people who don't want to do all that, don't feel comfortable, or just want to save space by plugging that in and pairing with a wireless mouse/keyboard.
Hmm - 2x AIO-CM4-156 with 8Gb CM4 + RPi400 - now that could be a killer setup (especially for dev work) - now if they would just make a AIO-CM4-216, AIO-CM4-246 and/or AIO-CM4-406 I would have everthing I ever wanted :)
The price is why more people aren't making it. I bought a monitor 1366x768 for 20 bucks at a computer store. An adapter for 10 bucks offline to get the video on it and i'm good for 30 bucks. Not all in one nice package but.... whos gonna pay 300+ for a monitor for a PI.
I have some constructive criticism. I'm not sure what causes this, since you are using 4k60 footage, could be your shutter speed, codec or camera or something else, but your footage is oddly blurred during motion. The panning shots around 2:20 when looked at on a good 4k monitor is oddly blurry or "jittery"? Hard to describe but this is the first time I noticed it on a video. It's hard to see detail during that panning.
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nice unit, for sure. But 340$, on top of that you have to add your compute module, so you are in for almost 400$. I understand that this has a cost to develop and manufacture on a small scale, but the value is definitely not there. And that is coming from a raspi fan (i have all the models from the start until now). For cheaper there was this laptop for a raspberry pi, with also the keyboard included, and a battery, hinge, etc... for same or lower price, you can get all in ones with beefier cpus, or cool laptops... Get something like that for 150-200$ (less features if need be). Would make for a nice setup for kiosk mode, but not at 400$.
Just wondering if the os has a screen magnification capability? Being legally blind, a 15" screen is just way too small for me to see. But, for sighted users, this would the perfect webpliance, for use in the kitchen. Options like this PC will be huge, in 2025, when Win10 looses support, and a lot of folks can't afford to upgrade hardware to run Win11.
Unfortunately there seems to be no way to easily add a display input signal to use as a regular monitor. I really want to get a 1080p monitor smaller than my 24 inch (ideally 17 inches), but all I can find are 15.6 inch portable monitors that cost much more than my 24 inch and do not come with an actual stand to use like a desktop monitor.
Thanks for the video. Bit expensive for me. The low version of steam deck/mid version or same price. You probably could get a more powerful laptop for that as well. It's cool but £400 not so cheap. Version I'd have with shipping is 559 dollars, so steam deck it is
Building one yourself using a laptop spare 1080p display cost you just half that. if you don't mind 768p you can get away with even less and more display options. Mind you the option for touch cost 60$ more, so 399$ when you can get a 144hz 1080p display or entry level 1440p 75hz + a pi4 8gb minus the touch for the same price in a worst case scenario. Heck, you could even pick up one of those portable 1080p or even 4k display and add in a 8gb pi 4 and still save some money.
I'm new to the Raspberry Pi, but isn’t the point of the Pi that it’s a cheap portable computer? This is taking it into the price bracket of a higher spec, more portable laptop. I don’t understand the point of it sorry.
You could get an 8gb pi, nvme compatible case and a bigger (and probably better) monitor for probably $100 - $150 less, I can live with a cable or two for that much.
Can you also test the touchscreen for music game like Project Sekai or Idolmaster Cinderella Girls. I want to know the best touchscreen for some games like this but no one on youtube did it sadly
It's just sad that the pi foundation has shown no real interest in releasing a truly powerful SBC. The Pi4 is nice, but is about on par with a budget phone / tablet for performance. Would love it if they could release something as powerful as the Snapdragon 865 with 8+ GB of memory. They could support both the maker / budget friendly market while still offering a higher end product for those of use that want it. And yes, I own a Pi4 8GB, it's underwhelming....
Whilst it looks like a neat idea, it's damn expensive really. For the non-touch, it's about £250, with the near bottom of the range compute module (2G DDR, and no WiFi, or eMMC). But for 22 inch monitor (£95 or £120 with speakers) and Pi400 Kit (£100), I'd end up with a better Pi4 (4GB with wireless and overclocked) and I could actually plug something else into the monitor too if I wanted. Who thought it was a good idea to build a monitor that wouldn't take a video feed in? Also, who even makes 15 inch monitors any more other than for crappy laptops? 22 inch Iiyama touchscreen monitor £195 plus the Pi400 Kit for £100 and you blow this thing out of the water (assuming the Pi will recognize the touchscreen monitor) for about the same price. And I'm not even overly keen on the Pi400, I think it should have used a compute module rather than being a fixed spec, but it's still better than this. With a little looking you could probably even get a VESA case for a Pi4 and stick it on the back of the monitor, add a Microsoft Wireless Keyboard for £30 and you can get rid of the wires.
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1:15 I also like how they have a VESA mount option; too many monitors these days neglect that.
@randomdoodification This is true.
one day this guy is gonna bust out emulation on the Samsung smart fridge
The REAL test is Doom, and then Crysis.
Yeah, the fridge is a (actively) cooled system. ❄️ 🥶 Ideal for overclocking! 😜 🆒
What a great product idea! I may need to pick one of these up,
It might make a good client for one of your gaming servers or for KVM/ diornostic station etc. Pluss teh gpio could lead to some fun
I agree with the kvm/diagnostic ideas
It's a step in the right direction, but when I saw the video title I was really hoping this would be a microATX or mini-itx IO board.
This would be perfect for Home Assistant with the touch screen and all.
Nice looking. Wish it was around couple years ago. built my own long ago with AOC 13 inch display, R-pi 4 4gb, vesa rpi mount, usb keyboard and mouse & touch overlay from old Fujitsu tablet. $189 not counting the donated touch screen.
Would love to see someone hit the $200 price range on this, including the touch screen. Otherwise I can't justify it
It's a lot really. Could just attach the Pi to the VESA mount on the back of a monitor, then get a keyboard and mouse to achieve the same thing really.
Agreed. 400 is too high.
Yeah I was shocked by the price, too.
You can get a portable 15,6" Touchscreen for ~ 150$
If you add the pi, SSD and a keyboard to it you are looking at another 100$ maybe. But that is consumer prices. 🤷🏻♂️
@@ized88 You are paying them to bundle it all together so that it is ready to go out of the box.
Could you show devices like this running a suite of office apps on the future, please? I don't know much about using a Raspberry PI as a productivity device, so Office software, connecting and printing from several regular and commonly-found printers, photo/picture editing/drawing, file managers, access to Google Drive, connecting exHDs, etc would be great.
Cheers.
All that works flawlessly
Those will work just fine, but printers is going a bit tricky because you have to make sure to find correct driver to install. CUPS might be a solution for that.
Picture editing is also just fine, but not with video editing because the GPU is not be able to handle heavy task on GPU IMO
Now we just need a good point of sale system for the Pi and these will be great for small coffee shops, restaurants, etc.
Unjustifiable at that price. It's in the range of a low end AIO windows PC (and double the cost of second hand one). The whole point of RPI is its low cost. Charging the same as a (much better) PC is absurd.
Id like to see Android running on this. No idea why, but I do.
Me too
Me three. I prefer Android as a desktop OS. Call me weird...
what about chromeos which runs chrome, android and Linux together?
I've been looking at ChromeOS more and more. And I can't disagree. At this point the more the merrier is my opinion.
Because it has a touch screen?
You have become one of my favorite channels! Amazing tutorials and content!
That's an old school 40 pin EIDE connector for the GPIO expansion :-D
This would be an amazing solution for public computers, schools or if you happen to have visitors or even kids at home.
Woot!
A little pricey but otherwise nice and as always, thanks for posting!
I have been waiting for such device , definitely gonna get one .
I wish they allowed for picking which compute module you want, instead of ONLY shipping the 2GB version
Ridiculous price, otherwise pretty nice
My thoughts exactly, would be perfect for a touch enabled home dashboard or control center but the price comes up to a comparable old monitor and a recycled office PC which will give much better performance
Too bad Raspberry pulled a OnePlus and now it's nowhere near as cheap as it was back in the Pi1 days. Well, unless you are okay with the Pi Zero's performance. Too bad there's really no competition if you consider the software support and community where the Raspberry is miles ahead everyone else.
@ You have to admit, that first pi was really near useless for most tasks. For use as a microcontroller it was fine, but it had no practical use as a dedicated computer. I mean 256/512mb of ram in 2012 was near useless (again, outside of dedicated microcontroller style tasks). At least the Pi4 can be used for many desktop computing tasks.
@ The original Pi was $25. The current Pi is $35.
happy this exists, questions the price, though its not unreasonable considering that technically this is more upgradable than most all in one computers, im fairly certain they'll continue using the cm4 connector for awhile.
Between Raspberry pi's and AMD APU's, the future of computers and gaming computers is going to be super small and super powerful.
It will be an interesting thing
ARM is the future.
cant wait for RISC V to hit PCs
And M1X...
@AstroCat RISC-V's a decade old and ARM's been around for more than 30 years. I'd say it's done well to get this far in that short amount of time.
I never get tired of seeing marvel vs Capcom 2 running on these devices.
A cheap laptop can do more and is way cheaper. Great video as always ETA.
i guess its use is low heat and power to keep it running 24/7
I agree, I would love to see how Android 11 works specifically with the 8GB CM4r midule
Awesome I was looking at these on eBay last night
nice review. how is the power usage for this unit? idle and gaming wattage?
This is awesome, Was hoping for exactly this but in a smaller size. more compact and portable...
YESSS, great product !!
I like to see Twister OS running on this ....
Still waiting for any company to come up with a solution for remote classes. The market in developing countries needs it. This one is almost there, the only thing that is missing is a webcam.
Go do it yourself, don't just sit on on your fat arse saying that doers are failing!
@@Ffinity a very good way to start a productive conversation. Bravo!
Below 250€ this is a killer product
I like how they didn't change the packaging from the monitor they modified (in which they presumably ordered the monitor without the control board in bulk on Alibaba, then installed their own Pi carrier board themselves).
This would be a good set up for a table top arcade system.
Something like this would be awesome with remote desktop, I could see one of these in my room and a server somewhere else in the house.
yep, i was playin on my bedroom with steamlink on a Py 3 plugged on the tv with my xbox one controller while my main tower is still on the living room on my simrig. Now i just use my laptop but it was good enough to play any of my games even non steam games, pick and read any movies on my nas or any other devices. SD cards is very slow i need try with a ssd one of these days
How did they facilitate the HDMI connection internally? Is it all integrated and just an LVDS or similar cable to the display? Or is there an HDMI interface board separate from the CM4 carrier board?
I don't know the stage chromeos is right now, but it would be cool to see it running in this system. With android and Linux apps would be even better
That CM4 is such an amazing creation. Definitely looking forward to see what new and greater things come from that. :DDD
for 339$ hmmm.. u can have a normal more powerful PC setup for 300$ though.
Yeah, or even a full-ledge laptop. I think this has more to do with novelty and experiment than cater to comsumers' needs.
I'd rather buy some cheap Asus or HP or a Chromebook. This thing is too expensive for its performance
@@benonyangore1536 yep I agree w u.. those cheap still selling AMD A4-9120 Radeon R3 laptops that equal in power to Intel Core Duo E8400 and Nvidia GTX 7800.. those could do good up to some 6th generation light emulation or playing games up to 2005 at max settings.
That tends to be the problem with many Pi-derived products unfortunately. The 4(00) is/are pretty decent value by themselves (including cooling for the 4 and the accessories you need to buy for them, if any) but with the products built around them, you can get better performance (and generally better all round, for the most part) for lower cost.
If you’re building and designing the products yourself though, that’s something else but getting them prebuilt, I struggle to see why anyone would.
It's $459 for the configuration he is testing. Way too expensive for what you get.
This would make a great all in one emulation station
nice, really neat unit, i have a pi4 8gb with argon m.2 case
This is super cool. Want to get one. Twister OS video would be nice to see.
I like it. I'd also like to see some nice tablet, laptop and 2 in 1 options based on the CM4, with bonus points for a modular design.
What is the model of your second monitor? It's very nice!
I was wondering the same thing 😀
Interesting and might be a great option for anybody requiring ARM architecture for local development. But costing more than $300 means that it must compete with cheap laptops with Intel Celeron N4020 @ 1.10GH. In my local market I know people would rather get the laptop than an AIO display.
When it comes to retro games you always improve it by installing your own Program. The image looks good and this is must have for someone in budget 😎👍🏽👌🏽💯💯💯
While I am comfortable grabbing an off lease office machine, adding ram, slotting an SSD in and a budget (in this climate? HA!) graphics card in? Not everyone is, and something like this represents a good option for people who don't want to do all that, don't feel comfortable, or just want to save space by plugging that in and pairing with a wireless mouse/keyboard.
You can also do the same with an Android PC/STB.
This looks amazing and gonna make a good pos system
I think installing Dosbian is best aio retro PC game machine.
I would have liked to see a built in webcam too, though the price would have been higher. In any case a great product!
can het a steam deck? here you go!!. thank you for videos man.
Can you please test a 4k screen with the pi4 or cm4? Nobody tested the pi with modern office monitors. Thanks for all your videos.
Hmm - 2x AIO-CM4-156 with 8Gb CM4 + RPi400 - now that could be a killer setup (especially for dev work) - now if they would just make a AIO-CM4-216, AIO-CM4-246 and/or AIO-CM4-406 I would have everthing I ever wanted :)
The price is why more people aren't making it. I bought a monitor 1366x768 for 20 bucks at a computer store. An adapter for 10 bucks offline to get the video on it and i'm good for 30 bucks. Not all in one nice package but.... whos gonna pay 300+ for a monitor for a PI.
Maybe I missed it in the video but the cm4 was not part of the package right? That was provided by yourself?
I have some constructive criticism. I'm not sure what causes this, since you are using 4k60 footage, could be your shutter speed, codec or camera or something else, but your footage is oddly blurred during motion. The panning shots around 2:20 when looked at on a good 4k monitor is oddly blurry or "jittery"? Hard to describe but this is the first time I noticed it on a video. It's hard to see detail during that panning.
nice i wouldn't mind geting one i am not to crazy about touch screen leaving figer prints on screen
the Wallpaper looks AWESOME... any tips on where i can DOWNLOAD it. I would LOVE to have this Wallpaper on my Pi4 :)
Looks more then perfect for fuitbox pie, would love to see how well it works as a Jukebox.
Oh, it's just a small step to a laptop, power supply and folding design and with the CM4 almost like Lego!
Power supply naturally means an accumulator...
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nice unit, for sure. But 340$, on top of that you have to add your compute module, so you are in for almost 400$.
I understand that this has a cost to develop and manufacture on a small scale, but the value is definitely not there. And that is coming from a raspi fan (i have all the models from the start until now). For cheaper there was this laptop for a raspberry pi, with also the keyboard included, and a battery, hinge, etc...
for same or lower price, you can get all in ones with beefier cpus, or cool laptops...
Get something like that for 150-200$ (less features if need be).
Would make for a nice setup for kiosk mode, but not at 400$.
Just wondering if the os has a screen magnification capability? Being legally blind, a 15" screen is just way too small for me to see. But, for sighted users, this would the perfect webpliance, for use in the kitchen. Options like this PC will be huge, in 2025, when Win10 looses support, and a lot of folks can't afford to upgrade hardware to run Win11.
A dual boot option would be nice
Thanks for sharing !
An idea I absolutely needed, until I admitted the Pi just doesn't have the horsepower to work as my NAS. Still getting one, though.
I hope you can install windows on arm on that all in one desktop
Yo I wanna see Android on that thing. Good video as always.
With touch this would be perfect for using with Octoprint and Klipper for a 3D Printer
Can you do a video on this product with andriod instaled? Great video btw!
Unfortunately there seems to be no way to easily add a display input signal to use as a regular monitor. I really want to get a 1080p monitor smaller than my 24 inch (ideally 17 inches), but all I can find are 15.6 inch portable monitors that cost much more than my 24 inch and do not come with an actual stand to use like a desktop monitor.
This would be super easy to build in an arcade setup
Thanks for the video. Bit expensive for me. The low version of steam deck/mid version or same price. You probably could get a more powerful laptop for that as well. It's cool but £400 not so cheap. Version I'd have with shipping is 559 dollars, so steam deck it is
yeah the steamdeck destroys this thing in terms of price to performance
Damn...that 339 price is a bit spicy
Abit?
Building one yourself using a laptop spare 1080p display cost you just half that. if you don't mind 768p you can get away with even less and more display options.
Mind you the option for touch cost 60$ more, so 399$ when you can get a 144hz 1080p display or entry level 1440p 75hz + a pi4 8gb minus the touch for the same price in a worst case scenario. Heck, you could even pick up one of those portable 1080p or even 4k display and add in a 8gb pi 4 and still save some money.
Yeah...I was sarcastic!lol.
Хотелось бы увидеть обычную убунту с хромом и либраофисом на этом компе. ну и разгон с температурами.
Awsome 🍅
I'm new to the Raspberry Pi, but isn’t the point of the Pi that it’s a cheap portable computer? This is taking it into the price bracket of a higher spec, more portable laptop. I don’t understand the point of it sorry.
You could get an 8gb pi, nvme compatible case and a bigger (and probably better) monitor for probably $100 - $150 less, I can live with a cable or two for that much.
it will be nice for pi signage, so bad that official website cannot select with cm4 to come with
Is there a cm4 display hat of same dimensions as of cm4
What was that second moniter he showcased?
I’m curious too. That thing has microscopic bezels.
HDMI in and it will be perfect!
Is it possible to tilt the screen?
When are these guys going to be knighted? Awesome company.
They are underrated
They are a modern day Sinclair.
@@murdock94 Totally agree there
Awesome
Can you please give a demo of Android on this unit, that would be awesome if you could! Thanks :)
Nice!
Great one
thats an ide cable, now replace it with a round cable or one with 80 conductors, im sure you know which one i mean
Would be nice if they could find a way to install a UDOO RYZEN Bolt V1000 into the same display.
Would you recommend this for a Plex server?
Interesting, would love to see Windows 10 on arm with this setup or Ubuntu
Can you also test the touchscreen for music game like Project Sekai or Idolmaster Cinderella Girls. I want to know the best touchscreen for some games like this but no one on youtube did it sadly
I'd LOVE to see you run Android on this device. 👍
I have no need for it, but I want it.
Tbh they could include a usb3 hub.
What was that internal usb port for???
On their site you can choose Android 11 as Preinstalled OS,
On the site they say there is a camera "not mounted by default" what does it mean?
CM 4 module replaceable ?
I wonder how well Windows on ARM would run on that.
Loads so much faster than the SD card. The Pi is crap slow on the SD.
It's just sad that the pi foundation has shown no real interest in releasing a truly powerful SBC. The Pi4 is nice, but is about on par with a budget phone / tablet for performance. Would love it if they could release something as powerful as the Snapdragon 865 with 8+ GB of memory. They could support both the maker / budget friendly market while still offering a higher end product for those of use that want it. And yes, I own a Pi4 8GB, it's underwhelming....
Whilst it looks like a neat idea, it's damn expensive really. For the non-touch, it's about £250, with the near bottom of the range compute module (2G DDR, and no WiFi, or eMMC). But for 22 inch monitor (£95 or £120 with speakers) and Pi400 Kit (£100), I'd end up with a better Pi4 (4GB with wireless and overclocked) and I could actually plug something else into the monitor too if I wanted.
Who thought it was a good idea to build a monitor that wouldn't take a video feed in?
Also, who even makes 15 inch monitors any more other than for crappy laptops?
22 inch Iiyama touchscreen monitor £195 plus the Pi400 Kit for £100 and you blow this thing out of the water (assuming the Pi will recognize the touchscreen monitor) for about the same price. And I'm not even overly keen on the Pi400, I think it should have used a compute module rather than being a fixed spec, but it's still better than this.
With a little looking you could probably even get a VESA case for a Pi4 and stick it on the back of the monitor, add a Microsoft Wireless Keyboard for £30 and you can get rid of the wires.