This is the direction the industry as a whole is moving to. RAM no longer offers the V8 for 2025, only the 3.6L Pentastar V6 and their new 3.0L Hurricane inline 6. Ford still has the 5.0L Coyote V8, and GM's two V8 offerings. Eventually those will be phased out in favour of smaller displacement, forced-induction engines that meet stricter fuel guidelines.
@@PRNTestDrive - In other words, the "stricter fuel guidelines" are just an excuse to make any useful truck overpriced and impossible for the average Joe to fix or maintenance themselves without dealership intervention. Also these turbo engines are actually more fuel thirsty when driven faster where a V8 coyote gets more mpg driven the same as already seen. All these turbos in small displacements are just about taking more money from the consumers than "saving the earth" bull crap. I've never heard ONE single true truck guy back then wishing that their V8 was a smaller engine with a turbo. If truck guys really cared about the environment, they would buy a Prius.
@@kurtbeck5809 - Chevy has more issues than Ford so the F-150 V8 is the better option. Funny though the Camaro V8 is more reliable than the Mustang V8, lol! Go figure!
Toyota does seem to stand behind their products more than the other OEMs. Definitely a good deal though especially compared with the recent F-150s we've driven.
@@PRNTestDrive - Will Toyota be standing right behind with you on the side of the road when their Tundras or Tacomas break down, or will they be thousands of miles away in their mansions?
Haven driven a variety of Toyotas for 30 years, I can attest to a noticeable decrease in build quality and reliability. I considered the new Tundra model, but the new engine and transmission combo is really going to have to prove itself, since the automaker consistently has had the most reliable full size truck for several years. I’ll pass until I see a similar longevity of the V8s. The big three also offer far more engine and model configurations.
Fair enough! The American brands can offer more choice because they have much more volume, so they can afford a multitude of engine offerings. Time will tell!
Pick mine up in March. Took me months to decide to move on from my Tacoma. 6 months in and 20K miles and it's amazing. Definitely feel more comfortable. Ride quality is still great. It's still going on some mild off-road trails. Toyota reliability still there, even the current issues Toyota's still trying to fix. Not like the other manufacturers who sometimes hide s until exposed. My biggest complaint is that turn radius
That's my thought exactly, every brand has their share of issues and recalls but Toyota does seem to be on the ball when it comes to addressing the issues and making it right for customers.
I have had 3 turbocharged cars that lasted over 50,000miles. I traded about every 2-3 years. 2 ran very good 1 not so great. The problem I have with these companies putting turbos on cars is, they are reducing cylinders and displacement and adding boost to try to maintain the power the normally aspirated had. Seems like they rushed to do this. Turbocharging this engine doesn’t have anything to do with failures due to the material left in it after machining it but many people will associate turbos with the engine failures. Heat is the problem under the hood with turbos. Plastic will pay the price. I hope Toyota has solved this issue for 2025. I thought I would like to have a new Tundra but will hold off for now. They have had plenty of time to fix this issue and if they didn’t, they should fire their executives who decided not to - or they will pay a bigger price of people not buying their products. I have heard they may have to spend around $10 billion to fix this issue. The Tacoma has transmission problems also! What else lurks for Toyota? Whew! The government has played a part in automakers going south also. Forcing the elimination of gasoline in 10 years is idiotic!
It does seem like Toyota has had a string of issues with their vehicles recently. It's hard to sort out the noise from the actual issues though, as we typically just hear from people who've had issues and not from people who've had problem-free experiences. Either way we hope Toyota can sort out the issues with their trucks/SUVs.
@@kurtbeck5809 At 16,000 miles 2 years old. Built around the time of the first turbo failures. 300 miles after an oil change. No hard driving city only. Engine codes popped up on the screen. I erased the codes and a few days later they popped up again. Then the waste gate stayed open giving little boost at higher rpm.
I really wanted one of these but ended up getting a new 24 Titan. Concern was reliability with Toyota. Of course now I have to worry about Nissan going out of business. Ugh…
Same here, I was quite impressed with it overall. I'd likely go with this trim too, just add some running boards and I'd be set. Plus a different exterior colour.
I do hope Toyota does right and gets the problem engines sorted out, I don't think I'd shy away from one of these as I'm confident enough that Toyota will make it right if issues arise.
I bought a 24 Titan Sv and have never gotten that low of fuel economy. Average highway is 21 and I’ve seen 23 coming back from a camping trip with the bed loaded but keeping it at 65. I’m never lower than 16.
I mean you'd have to give us the time code on that, I may have said relatively affordable - relative to the current price of new pickup trucks. In general pick up trucks are pretty unaffordable, with prices ballooning $20k+ in the last 4-5 years, however ALL pickup trucks have increased at that rate.
After carefully looking and driving all the 1/2 ton trucks out there in the ZR2, tremor and rebel , I bought the tundra limited TRD OR 4x4 and just absolutely love it . The failing parts have been superseded as of January 2024 for the bearings . Toyota will iron out all the issues as they have , No I don’t miss the 5.7 v8 at all this new tundra is better in EVERY way . Tows better , more torque down low in the rpm ride is way Better and quieter trans is silky smooth and also avg 19 mpg mix hwy and city just can’t say good enough things about the Gen3 tundra .
Glad to hear it! That's something I think some people have forgotten when it comes to the issues Toyota has had with this engine, is they're going to absolutely fix the issue and make it right. There are plenty of brands out there with recall after recall and seem to have non-stop problems, but I know if I had a Toyota with an issue there's a way better chance of it getting dealt with properly than with some other brands.
@peterhoma6385 - Good job, you sound JUST like a Toyota employee trying to sell Toyotas. Seriously you could have at least picked a lower trim Tundra instead of the $75K. I disagree that "your" so called TRD is better in "EVERY" way, one thing about the V8 is that they sound WAAAY better than any turbo truck and even the most hardcore 6 cylinder turbo guy would agree that their V8 sounded better. Besides, the V8 outlast any 6 cylinder turbo and there's mountains of data to support that. Also, the new V8 coyotes get an average of 20-23 mpg on mixed city and highways and you can easily tune a coyote into a street rocket with very little added parts.
@@PRNTestDrive - I would agree that Toyota is better than Ford when it comes to customer service and fixing issues. Ford dealerships are only interested in replacing big expensive non warranty parts than doing small cheaper upgrades under warranty. But Toyota really dropped the ball by removing naturally aspirated engines with these new turbos, they should have at least given consumers the choice of both just like Ford, in that aspect Ford is far better than Toyota which give people far more choices than Toyota's "crappy turbo or less crappy turbo" choices.
@peterhoma - Also another thing, the Ford Shelby truck gets around the same mpg as a TRD Pro tundra but the speed and power of that supercharged coyote destroys the TRD tundra easy. Also the Shelby has the best version of the 10 speed transmission and it's as silky smooth as a Lexus. I've seen Ford's 10R80 tranny issues before but just like Toyota they're also fixing the problem. So between both $75-$100K trucks (yes I've seen Tundras at $100K at dealerships) I would go for the Shelby because it not only looks far better, it's much faster and sounds a 1000 times better.....and it's cooler too, I mean come on, Shelby Cobra truck sounds better than Toyota TRD (turd)..lol!
No fuck Toyota. They just came out with a cylinder deactivation device for 2022+ GM trucks so your 5.3 v8 or 6.2 v8 can be on v8 mode all the time, so to me that seems like a much better setup than that shit engine the Tundra has for long term owners.
Since we haven't driven any other versions of the Tundra we can't really compare, but some of the design traits on their new truck/SUVs like the big TOYOTA branding near the glovebox isn't for us.
The new Tundras are junk with an engine failure recall. Toyota needs to do a buy back for all new tundras and stop scamming new customers selling a new truck with engine failures that can happen anytime. Should be a stop sell
Why a stop sell? The issue was a manufacturing one and they've issued recalls for those engine. 2024s don't have that problem. Sounds like you just want to create drama when Toyota seems to be doing the right things when it comes to their issues, unlike other brands that have constant quality issues of their own and don't seem bothered by it.
@@PRNTestDrive - It's too early to claim the 2024 Tundras are "fixed" and also have the turbo Tacomas been fixed? Those are just as problematic as the Tundras or even worst. Did you see the fast lane truck review of a brand new Tacoma breaking it's front wheel drive during a simple climb? To make it worst they needed a Chevy to tow it off the cliff. If you remove "reliability" from Toyota they got nothing. The other trucks look better, ride better, tow/carry more, have better options, run faster, sound better, cost a little less, and get better mpg. Reliability is the only thing Toyota has over it's competition and now that reliability is in question.
I laugh at these people claiming every new tundra is going to blow. Confirmed engine failures are well well below 1%. It’s hard being #1 for reliability as people like to hate on you when you’re on top
Toyota should offer a choice of a naturally aspirated engine. Not everyone wants a turbo.
This. Until Toyota does, or the turbo proves itself over hundreds of thousands of miles, I'm not interested.
This is the direction the industry as a whole is moving to. RAM no longer offers the V8 for 2025, only the 3.6L Pentastar V6 and their new 3.0L Hurricane inline 6. Ford still has the 5.0L Coyote V8, and GM's two V8 offerings. Eventually those will be phased out in favour of smaller displacement, forced-induction engines that meet stricter fuel guidelines.
@@PRNTestDrive - In other words, the "stricter fuel guidelines" are just an excuse to make any useful truck overpriced and impossible for the average Joe to fix or maintenance themselves without dealership intervention. Also these turbo engines are actually more fuel thirsty when driven faster where a V8 coyote gets more mpg driven the same as already seen. All these turbos in small displacements are just about taking more money from the consumers than "saving the earth" bull crap. I've never heard ONE single true truck guy back then wishing that their V8 was a smaller engine with a turbo. If truck guys really cared about the environment, they would buy a Prius.
Ford and Chevy still do
@@kurtbeck5809 - Chevy has more issues than Ford so the F-150 V8 is the better option. Funny though the Camaro V8 is more reliable than the Mustang V8, lol! Go figure!
$60k for a crew cab Limited is a great value for the trim level. Reliability will be the big concern
Toyota does seem to stand behind their products more than the other OEMs. Definitely a good deal though especially compared with the recent F-150s we've driven.
You can get it for less, discounts are pretty good rn
@@PRNTestDrive - Will Toyota be standing right behind with you on the side of the road when their Tundras or Tacomas break down, or will they be thousands of miles away in their mansions?
Haven driven a variety of Toyotas for 30 years, I can attest to a noticeable decrease in build quality and reliability. I considered the new Tundra model, but the new engine and transmission combo is really going to have to prove itself, since the automaker consistently has had the most reliable full size truck for several years. I’ll pass until I see a similar longevity of the V8s. The big three also offer far more engine and model configurations.
Fair enough! The American brands can offer more choice because they have much more volume, so they can afford a multitude of engine offerings. Time will tell!
Pick mine up in March.
Took me months to decide to move on from my Tacoma.
6 months in and 20K miles and it's amazing.
Definitely feel more comfortable. Ride quality is still great. It's still going on some mild off-road trails.
Toyota reliability still there, even the current issues Toyota's still trying to fix. Not like the other manufacturers who sometimes hide s until exposed.
My biggest complaint is that turn radius
That's my thought exactly, every brand has their share of issues and recalls but Toyota does seem to be on the ball when it comes to addressing the issues and making it right for customers.
I have had 3 turbocharged cars that lasted over 50,000miles. I traded about every 2-3 years. 2 ran very good 1 not so great. The problem I have with these companies putting turbos on cars is, they are reducing cylinders and displacement and adding boost to try to maintain the power the normally aspirated had. Seems like they rushed to do this. Turbocharging this engine doesn’t have anything to do with failures due to the material left in it after machining it but many people will associate turbos with the engine failures. Heat is the problem under the hood with turbos. Plastic will pay the price. I hope Toyota has solved this issue for 2025. I thought I would like to have a new Tundra but will hold off for now. They have had plenty of time to fix this issue and if they didn’t, they should fire their executives who decided not to - or they will pay a bigger price of people not buying their products. I have heard they may have to spend around $10 billion to fix this issue. The Tacoma has transmission problems also! What else lurks for Toyota? Whew! The government has played a part in automakers going south also. Forcing the elimination of gasoline in 10 years is idiotic!
It does seem like Toyota has had a string of issues with their vehicles recently. It's hard to sort out the noise from the actual issues though, as we typically just hear from people who've had issues and not from people who've had problem-free experiences. Either way we hope Toyota can sort out the issues with their trucks/SUVs.
The manufacturing defects are not fixed. My Platinum just lost a turbo.
Where'd the Turbo go? Hopefully it finds it's way home.
Just for curiosity how many miles and under what circumstances?
@@kurtbeck5809 At 16,000 miles 2 years old. Built around the time of the first turbo failures. 300 miles after an oil change. No hard driving city only. Engine codes popped up on the screen. I erased the codes and a few days later they popped up again. Then the waste gate stayed open giving little boost at higher rpm.
Sorry to hear that
At least that should be a much easier repair than the engine...at least you could drive home @wburtney5154
What year?
I really wanted one of these but ended up getting a new 24 Titan. Concern was reliability with Toyota. Of course now I have to worry about Nissan going out of business. Ugh…
I wouldn't worry about that, they're not going anywhere. If a company like Chrysler can still exist, anything is possible.
@@PRNTestDrivegood point.
I would have zero reservations about buying a 2024 Tundra. If the model fit my needs and the price was competitive, why not?
Same here, I was quite impressed with it overall. I'd likely go with this trim too, just add some running boards and I'd be set. Plus a different exterior colour.
Seriously considering it but the rear hump might be the final deal breaker. Like why in a 2024.
I was surprised by it also. Can't remember any other truck having that.
I would never buy a turbo gas engine…give me any non turbo and I’ll consider going back to Toyota.. but they are dead to me
I imagine a lot of people feel this way also, but there are fewer and fewer naturally aspirated engine options out there.
@@PRNTestDrive you are right, this will cost the consumer in the long run.
@@donaltemus3565 gm DFM V8’s are failing at high rates. Don’t act like modern V8’s are bulletproof.
@@northerntoyota7584 gm makes trash. Hell they make trash now. Anything to keep you making a monthly payment or fix at a high cost their trash
Wait until they correct the engine flaw then purchase a 2025 or 2026
I do hope Toyota does right and gets the problem engines sorted out, I don't think I'd shy away from one of these as I'm confident enough that Toyota will make it right if issues arise.
My 2024 Nissan Titan Platinum V8 will put this to shame. Sorry, and it was 8k cheaper with a better warranty!
Hope that works out for you.
Titan gets 13 mpg and 24 is last year, good luck
I bought a 24 Titan Sv and have never gotten that low of fuel economy. Average highway is 21 and I’ve seen 23 coming back from a camping trip with the bed loaded but keeping it at 65. I’m never lower than 16.
Did you just say A VERY AFFORDABLE TRUCK?
I mean you'd have to give us the time code on that, I may have said relatively affordable - relative to the current price of new pickup trucks. In general pick up trucks are pretty unaffordable, with prices ballooning $20k+ in the last 4-5 years, however ALL pickup trucks have increased at that rate.
After carefully looking and driving all the 1/2 ton trucks out there in the ZR2, tremor and rebel , I bought the tundra limited TRD OR 4x4 and just absolutely love it . The failing parts have been superseded as of January 2024 for the bearings . Toyota will iron out all the issues as they have , No I don’t miss the 5.7 v8 at all this new tundra is better in EVERY way . Tows better , more torque down low in the rpm ride is way Better and quieter trans is silky smooth and also avg 19 mpg mix hwy and city just can’t say good enough things about the Gen3 tundra .
Glad to hear it! That's something I think some people have forgotten when it comes to the issues Toyota has had with this engine, is they're going to absolutely fix the issue and make it right. There are plenty of brands out there with recall after recall and seem to have non-stop problems, but I know if I had a Toyota with an issue there's a way better chance of it getting dealt with properly than with some other brands.
@peterhoma6385 - Good job, you sound JUST like a Toyota employee trying to sell Toyotas. Seriously you could have at least picked a lower trim Tundra instead of the $75K. I disagree that "your" so called TRD is better in "EVERY" way, one thing about the V8 is that they sound WAAAY better than any turbo truck and even the most hardcore 6 cylinder turbo guy would agree that their V8 sounded better. Besides, the V8 outlast any 6 cylinder turbo and there's mountains of data to support that. Also, the new V8 coyotes get an average of 20-23 mpg on mixed city and highways and you can easily tune a coyote into a street rocket with very little added parts.
@@PRNTestDrive - I would agree that Toyota is better than Ford when it comes to customer service and fixing issues. Ford dealerships are only interested in replacing big expensive non warranty parts than doing small cheaper upgrades under warranty. But Toyota really dropped the ball by removing naturally aspirated engines with these new turbos, they should have at least given consumers the choice of both just like Ford, in that aspect Ford is far better than Toyota which give people far more choices than Toyota's "crappy turbo or less crappy turbo" choices.
@peterhoma - Also another thing, the Ford Shelby truck gets around the same mpg as a TRD Pro tundra but the speed and power of that supercharged coyote destroys the TRD tundra easy. Also the Shelby has the best version of the 10 speed transmission and it's as silky smooth as a Lexus. I've seen Ford's 10R80 tranny issues before but just like Toyota they're also fixing the problem. So between both $75-$100K trucks (yes I've seen Tundras at $100K at dealerships) I would go for the Shelby because it not only looks far better, it's much faster and sounds a 1000 times better.....and it's cooler too, I mean come on, Shelby Cobra truck sounds better than Toyota TRD (turd)..lol!
@@PRNTestDrive FANBOY
No fuck Toyota. They just came out with a cylinder deactivation device for 2022+ GM trucks so your 5.3 v8 or 6.2 v8 can be on v8 mode all the time, so to me that seems like a much better setup than that shit engine the Tundra has for long term owners.
Sounds like you should go with that then.
@@PRNTestDrive I am. Not supporting this piece of shit truck
@@mertz313dang, who 💩in you cereal this morning? Lol we’re just talking trucks here my dude.
@@Wakeupdud3 So am I. Did something I say hurt you?
@@mertz313 No.
still junk overall the 24 now blowing engines and all have issues with valve guides
If that's the case Toyota is going to have a lot more work to do.
@@PRNTestDrive its simple discontinue the v6 and use a 5.0 lexus v8
NO!
@@Streetglide2021 k
No thanks.I will be keeping my 2023 Tacoma Sport.Bring back the V8 Tundra then i may consider trading my 1 year old 3K miles Grey long bed Taco.
Fair enough!
Looks like Toyota should re think their interior design, the materials look cheap
Since we haven't driven any other versions of the Tundra we can't really compare, but some of the design traits on their new truck/SUVs like the big TOYOTA branding near the glovebox isn't for us.
The new Tundras are junk with an engine failure recall. Toyota needs to do a buy back for all new tundras and stop scamming new customers selling a new truck with engine failures that can happen anytime. Should be a stop sell
Why a stop sell? The issue was a manufacturing one and they've issued recalls for those engine. 2024s don't have that problem. Sounds like you just want to create drama when Toyota seems to be doing the right things when it comes to their issues, unlike other brands that have constant quality issues of their own and don't seem bothered by it.
@@PRNTestDrive All 24's , or up to what manufacturer date...can you confirm your statement about them not being affected.
@@PRNTestDrive - It's too early to claim the 2024 Tundras are "fixed" and also have the turbo Tacomas been fixed? Those are just as problematic as the Tundras or even worst. Did you see the fast lane truck review of a brand new Tacoma breaking it's front wheel drive during a simple climb? To make it worst they needed a Chevy to tow it off the cliff. If you remove "reliability" from Toyota they got nothing. The other trucks look better, ride better, tow/carry more, have better options, run faster, sound better, cost a little less, and get better mpg. Reliability is the only thing Toyota has over it's competition and now that reliability is in question.
@PRNTestDrive there have been some reported issues of 24 models per the car guy...recall just does not reflect these
I laugh at these people claiming every new tundra is going to blow. Confirmed engine failures are well well below 1%. It’s hard being #1 for reliability as people like to hate on you when you’re on top
absolutely not!!!!
fair enough
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