Yeah buy doesn't talk about if this trucks have a transmission cooler or how much high the transmission temperature can go without burn the transmission.
@@pecosb5221You want him to read the entire spec sheet to you? Maybe use that fucking head of yours and find out the basic features on your own. Or you need to be spoon fed?
Duuuuuuuude you did it. Really great video! This is why i like what you do over TFL and Pickup Plus. They wanna be first and they just regurgitate the same crap in ALL their videos. You are breaking it down mechanically, good and bad. You and the Car Care Nut are tops in my book. Looking forward to more.
Car Care Nut is not entirely objective - it mainly deals with Toyotas, I don't even comment on TFL similar ones. This guy is OK, although he is not entirely objective - he works indirectly for Cummins and he has made some mistakes - such as the way of comparing payload, but he is still better compared to many other channels. There are also many very good channels, but with lower viewership, which are prevented by YT algorithms from reaching a wider audience, and many talented mechanics unfortunately give up after a series of videos with several hundred views :/
@@coolftpDo you know what the word objective means? What does dealing with Toyota have to do with being objective? He is literally a Toyota tech so no fucking shit he will focus on what his area of expertise is. Lets see you do better. And are you seriously bitching about some trivial shit like comparing payload?
My neighbor has a 2023 with this engine. She tows a 24 foot bumper pull trailer. After 22K miles, the engine locked up and was replaced under warranty. This is the second one I know of that failed at about this mileage.
I'm not surprised. These engines are made in aBaLaMa. Notice the engines made in Japan for the land cruiser have no issues and they beat the hell out of them in the middle east.
I always take blown up engines with a grain of salt, regardless of manufacturer I always speculate the driver being at fault. I over tow/haul with my Subaru that is NOT rated to tow at all. And Subarus don't have the best rep of being "reliable" but after 120k km without a single problem, I always think it's the driver's fault. I follow the "severe" service schedule, and cut it in half. Way too many people follow the normal service and drive under severe conditions and blame the vehicle for blowing up. But i'm glad there are people blowing up the new Tundra, just means when I get mine, Toyota's gonna have the issue fixed.
@@gwot There are way too many 2022+ Tundras with blown engines to "take it with a grain of salt". These engines aren't failing because of some kind of lack of maintenance either. The bearings are failing in the bottom end. Toyota quality isn't what it was in the 90's when they were at their peak for reliability. Even the 2GR-FKS in the 3rd gen Tacoma has had an alarming number of engine failures.
Have a ‘22 Tundra 1794 STD bed w/ auto leveling air suspension. Now with almost 25,000 miles. I tow a 39’ Gand Design Imagine 2920 over several weeks the last two seasons. No issues so far. It handles the load extremely well. My previous Tundra is a 2003 4.7L 2U-ZFE w/ 235,000 miles. Obviously night and day difference. Heck the Tacoma is almost bigger than it. That one still runs great and I continue to use it around the property.
Good, now do you check the transmission temperature when you were pulling the trailer? I just got a 2024 SR5 loaded no hybrid but now I am worry about the transmission temperature when I am pulling a RV trailer dry weight is 4000 Pounds.
I have an ‘08, with 70K and after driving a new generation Tundra, absolutely NO WAY I would purchase one! Especially considering the amount of buy backs Toyota is agreeing to with said vehicles with major problems.
Very informative video! I’m a 5.7 Tundra owner and will be keeping it due to reliability and simplicity of the interior components. Looking forward to your next video on the 3.4!
Any engine “ can” have problems that cost thousands to repair. It just rarely ever happens with the 5.7. Also the 6 speed transmission paired with it is bullet proof. I love my 2018 tundra.
Proud owner of 2023 Toyota Tundra. It has some short comings but it’s greatness is in its smooth shifting, overbuilt Toyota ways. They are not perfect but I trust them most out of all the automakers. Also great technical review.
You really geeked out on that review . Nice one! Bore to stroke is the secret. I loved my 5.7 for 16 years but the cost of gas was it's demise. Amazing truck. This new one , not so sure. More of a preppy city truck. IMO.
This is the go to video on the v35a FTS! So much information. Just bought a 24 tundra and learned everything I need to know about this new engine. Pretty much widespread advice change the oil at 5k miles. I will be doing it at 3-4k miles. Have to keep the turbos happy
After owning two Toyota trucks for the last 18 years I didn’t consider replacing my Tundra with a new Tundra. Too many used on the market probably because of some of the reported issues the first two years have had amd more so my local dealers still insist on trying to sell shit you don’t need and mark them up! New F150 owner that got a great deal and is very happy after nine months. Your channel is awesome and you’re a great presenter!
Well thank you sir I appreciate it! Honestly I used to joke about fords being garbage but after driving so many truck I think the F150 is a great truck. they aren't perfect but no truck is.
A lot of them could be lease returns, or repos. It’s very common. People have to have things, but can barely afford them, and losing one paycheck can put them behind.
@@user-ln7of9gs4s Quite a few are buybacks or trade-ins because the engines are failing and leaving owners uninterested in keeping it out of warranty. There are guys that had not one but two engines fail, so I doubt he's intent on keeping the truck.
You are becoming an important part of my automotive interests. Great job on those reviews bro. I loved your 3.0L Ecodiesel segment... hope mine keeps doing me good lol
The truck is built in Texas. The engine is built in Alabama by a supplier. There has been a casting issue with the block causing catastrophic engine failure. I don’t know how many engines are effected. Toyota says the problem has been corrected. The power numbers are better than the V8 but reliability is questionable.
The engine is built at Toyota's engine plant in Huntsville, Alabama. It would be interesting if they built that engine at their other two engine plants in Kentucky and West Virginia to determine if the failure(s) are specific to that facility.
There was a few people saying rod bearing failures on these engines. One guy in the comments on UA-cam said he got rid of his after a crank bearing failed, Toyota replaced the engine and then it failed on the new engine too.
Another example of an offset crank is the 1988+ GM/BUICK 3800 V6, which is loved and celebrated for its astonishing longevity and reliability. Really impressed that Toyota went with the port/direct injection set up. Completely eliminates the GDI carbon issue without expensive services, cleanings, or possible severe engine problems. I really wish GM and Chrysler would go that way on their GDI engines.
Why do people make such a big deal about GDI carbon buildup? Not all DI-only engines are designed the same. The carbon buildup is primarily caused by EGR dumping exhaust into the intake... but I know for a fact that GM's DI V8's don't even have an EGR system. I don't hear anyone freaking about about diesel engines not having fuel sprayed on the back of the valves. They go for hundreds of thousands of miles without an issue. The examples of DI carbon buildup that I see cited are almost exclusively DI engines made by VW/Audi and Toyota where they used EGR's and poorly designed PCV systems that caused horrific buildup.
These turbocharged Tundras and Tacomas will end up being a mechanical NIGHTMARE. Just watch and see folks, bring back the V6 Tacomas and the V8 Tundras!!!!!!!
I had never watched any of your videos. Unbiased and factual. Great job! I have subscribed...Look forward to the next installment and the dreaded 2022 crank bearings discussion 🙂
It’s a new engine, like any new design it’ll have some kinks to work out and areas that need refining. But that falls into Toyota’s philosophy of improving things over time and not coming out with something completely new every few years. I think in a few years these will be pretty reliable engines in general. Hard to say if some of the early issues people have reported are due to engineering and design issues with the motor itself or build quality issues. As far as the old 5.7L goes generally speaking they are very reliable but not without their own common issues. In my personal experience I had a 2011 Tundra with that motor that dropped a valve at 88,000 miles destroying itself.
Yeah a lot of people think the 5.7L was a perfect engine from a reliability standpoint but they have had plenty of issues. Mine leaked oil from the cam towers and took three different attempts by the dealer to fix it. It also had a VVT solenoid fail and cooked starters alive, which the dealer wanted a ton of money to replace because it's an 8 hour job due to its location. Needed a rear main seal well before 100k miles which was very unimpressive considering I never hear about other brands of trucks having rear main seals leak as often as I did 2nd gen Tundras.
@@EthCepherincorrect. This engine in its current form is new for the Tundra. Also some of these motors as spinning main bearings requiring nearly new trucks to have engine replacements. Look on forums or do a little digging and it’s easy to find multiple cases. And some of these vehicles have been LX600’s built in Japan….
My questions is, did they increase bearing areas when they decided to turbocharge the 3.5? They took a smaller engine, with fewer components, to produce the same hp as a larger v8. Same stress is now spread out over fewer pistons, rods, bearings, and crank, not to mention the block itself. It's a lot of stress for a smaller hunk of aluminum. If they're going to use a longer stroke, boosted no less, I would think the connecting rod bearings are going to have to be fairly heavy duty. Time will tell I guess.
No Toyota did not cobble this engine together. Who would think they would risk their reputation doing such a dumb thing. Now the engine issues some customers have been seeing with bearing failures are likely supplier quality or assembly issue. Unfortunately, no manufacturer is immune to such things in supply chain. Honda has major recall for their 3.5L V6 engines that have been in production long-time due to crank bearing failures (too tight clearances). I don't fear Toyota as much as their suppliers and where those suppliers are located to cut costs. China or Mexico IMO are opportunities for disasters. Same for all manufacturers.
@@kannermwMaybe they shouldn't be pushing such sophisticated powerplants if they're suppliers suck. Did they upgrade bearing areas from naturally aspirated? I hope, unless the original 3.5 had overkill bearings in the first place. When you take a smaller engine and ask it to push as much hp as a larger engine, reliability and longevity suffer. This is not a new concept. It's well known with OTR diesel trucks. Also, in aviation, they tend to stay with relatively low power to weight ratios in piston engines to increase reliability. I think Toyota is just stuck between a rock and a hard place with US emissions BS, and trying to solve it with what they already have, mostly. Otherwise they would've come up with a completely new engine design.
@@ArnoldsDesign This nonsense about turbo engines is overblown. Diesel turbos have been around for decades. Toyota makes mistakes but in this case people are freaking out over nothing. The V6 is designed as heavy duty turbo engine not some spare parts pin special. These engines will be reliable and the V8 loons buying gasoline by the barrel and emptying their wallets will stop whining in < 5 years. Gas prices will continue going up unless we have major recession. Supplier quality problems are an issue regardless of engine tech. Unfortunately, we are in an era where manufacturers are struggling to improve profitability. That means sourcing components from countries that do not have Japanese quality systems and mindsets. Fortunately these things are covered under warranty. Much better than a crappy design that fails just outside of warranty.
Great review! I traded my 2015 LC (5.7) for a 2024 Tundra 1794 TRD off road. Had the LC for 6 years a few small issues. Biggest complaint, living in the gas station. So far I have to say the Tundra is winning on comfort, performance and gas mileage. Time will tell as you said.
I had the first failure in Canada. Spun a bearing at 18k kilometers. First round of engines had major issues with bearings not getting oil. I waited 4 months for the repair, and was treated like garbage from Toyota. Traded it in after for a ran 5.7 and never looked back
Hey Quicsilver... I feel your pain regarding dealing with Toyota over warranty issues. My Tacoma had so many issues we nicknamed it the Lemona 🍋. It spent more time on the dealerships lift than it did in our garage. Traded it in for a 5.0 F150... so far zero issues after 76k.
@@scupking Imagine a slightly modernized version of this good old 4.0. 🤯 Fueleconomy would be much better especially when the engine would come with an 6 speed manual or torqueconverter with lock up function.
The thing I have an issue with on these is that some features are linked to a spyware contract you have to sign before they switch them on, and you need to pay a rental fee for them after the introductory period. I believe that includes the remote start, so from my perspective it doesn't have remote start. Some manufacturers even rent you the use of your heated seats.
@@paulhunter9613Not necessarily. My 4Runner didn't have a start-from-app option. No remote start was included or available on mine. However, I purchased one from Amazon that works with the factory key fobs. I agree, it's ridiculous to include an option, only to charge a subscription fee for it. Kinda silly that you spend $40-50k and don't get to use the options without paying.
@@paulhunter9613 That's absurd. I've heard about Toyota being big on this and I'll never own one. I don't even pay for the Navigation on my Ford. My heated seats and remote start are included cause I already payed for them.
@@302Mustang13 yes it is absurd, when you purchase the option you should not have to pay a subscription to use it. Hopefully other manufacturers won’t try to do this pay to play in the future
owned a 22' chevy with a 2.7 then traded it for a ram 22' ram 5.7 and then traded Ram for a 23' Ford f150 3.5 EB Hands down the Eco Boost is the best to drive. Ford reminds me of a Tonka truck when i was a kid. Got my Adult Tonka truck with a 2 inch lift - big tires and wheels.
I love the 2.7 ecoboost in the f150. I don't tow but do haul from time to time and it is just a sweet engine. I have had the 3.5tt also and no problems. I get really good fuel mileage too.
I just love this new tundra as I bought one in 8/24 and the torque just come on so quickly at low rpm it just pulls hard . The engineering that went into this motor is a marvel …
I had a 11 tundra 5.7. I made the jump to a 24 tundra. I don’t have the hybrid but the v6tt has phenomenal power. Great torque. It’s a lot of fun paired with the ten speed. Launch at a light and it just rips.
Love my 24’ Tundra Limited TRD. I have owned two of every generation of Tundra. This one is the best of all. Now that it has the rear locker, it’s the full package.
Part of the problem with the 5.7 that toyora never really fixed was that it didnt have a proper flex fuel sensor. So it calculated alcohol content based on other sensors. Most of the 5.7 trucks are currently over fueling the engine because it thinks there is more alcohol in the fuel. You can reset it, it gets better but after a few weeks will start climbing again and bringing the fuel mileage down. Toyota had a reflash for it but it didnt completely take care of the issue. Hell after a reset ive gotten 20 mpg on a long trip even tho it was loaded down with stuff for a weeks vacatiob at the beach.
@@joelrichard7258 They just announced a recall of almost 100,000 of the new Tundra and Lexus V6 motors. It will cost Toyota 1.6 billion dollars to replace them! I have a 2012 5.7 Tundra and I LOVE IT, but the new V6 twin turbo is bad.
@@joelrichard7258 That's the only thing that will save this engine....it's made by Toyota. But at the same time, they are asking so much from a V-6 so we shall see.
2004 SR5 V-6, 222,221 mi bought brand new and still drove like new. Never had any issues. Unfortunately, was rear ended recently which ended up being totaled out. Will be getting another Tundra.
I don't understand why everybody spouts about the terrible gas mileage with the 5.7. I have a 2015 with 5.7 and I Average anywhere from 17.9 to 18.6 on the highway. And yes these engines are "bullet" proof. I bought my truck brand new 2015 and I'm currently sitting at 382000 miles. With absolutely 0 issues. This is my third tundra. And everyone had well over 300,000 when I Traded Them off.
Keeping my 5.7 Too many costly components to fail attempting to satisfy mpg numbers that aren’t achieving much better than the old reliable 5.7 not to mention payload torque and towing not much better either . Oh and let’s not forget the huge MSRP jump …. No way on gods green earth am I paying 75k+ Great review thanks for all the detailed info .
I drive a 2002 Tundra with the 4.7 V8, and my dad bought it brand new at the end of 2001. It’s got 215,000 miles on it, and that’s nothing for on of those engines!! I hope this new engine will last.
Absolutely an awesome video. The explanation and thoughts on this engine really go a long way on making a decision on a new vehicle. All the new technology is crazy for us ole school engine people. Thanks and keep up the great work.
I've got the Nissan Titan way better than that.New Toyota.I took that Toyota for a ride.It's sheep touched the glove box.Touch the pots inside see how cheap it is
I grew up on Toyota pickups back in the 80s and 90s before the Tundra. Had my dad's small 89' SR5 extra cad w/ 4 cylinder if I remember. Loved that truck so much and got 300K miles before it was wrecked. Then got my dad's T100 for a short time. It has 500k on it now. My last 3 trucks in life have been Rams. The only reason I have passed on a new Tundra is price and the horrific fuel economy. Would love to try one of these new engines. Hopefully, the switch for from V8 will help make a good difference in fuel. I'll be watching the reviews closely.
@TheGettyAdventures the ecoboost is still the most expensive used engine on the market which means it is replaced a lot it is also the cheapest high mileage truck compared to other. Here in FL a 2014-2016 f150 averages 5k less value than its equal 5.0 options.
That first gen 3.5 had some serious issues. The second gens for both the 3.5 and especially the 2.7 I have heard great things about their reliability. I test drove the 2.7 last month and wow what a machine!
@fl_atv_riders4455 That's the first gen, though . I've never even driven the first gen cause I myself was never sold on the ecoboost at first. I decided in 2013 that I would go with the 6.2v8 in my lariat limited. I loved that motor . I now have a 2018 second-generation ecoboost, and It was the first ecoboost I've ever owned. The 6.2 was a monster, but this second-generation ecoboost is a different animal. Not as punchie as the 6.2 but superior in every other way
I'm not an "engine" guy, but this was the best video I've seen on the Tundra engine (I switched from wanting a '24 Taco to a '24 Tundra to replace my '22 Bronco BD 4 door 2.3 MT), and I'm hoping that the "negative" review that's coming doesn't totally contradict or negate all the good things you mentioned. Not sure that I'm looking forward to it, but I trust whatever you'll say about it. Subscribed and liked!
Love, love, love my 2024 Tundra 4x4 SR trim. Everything I need (accept a factory brake controller) and nothing I don’t. $48k. A great value in today’s truck market.
That is not a great value for a base model tundra. That's how much an SR5 should be costing with all the bells and whistles. My walk out on a solar octane sr5 was 65k. I didn't want a new truck I needed one so I bit the bullet. That truck should have been 50k walkout. These dealers are highway robbery. The SR has less power and has less towing capacity. The limited has less than the sr5 and it gets worse as you go up in trim. Makes no sense and sr5 has the biggest tow capacity being on the lower end of the truck tier.
@@brianaustin1328 the most beneficial thing about getting getting the SR is simply because you can customize whatever you want without having to worry about getting rid of things you might need
I have a 23 tundra platinum and I love this truck. I love everything about it the power of the ride no wind noise no cracking no squeaks none of that stuff that the other people are saying mine. It’s an amazing truck and I just love it. I just, I’m scared because so many of them are blowing up and I don’t know if the numbers are real on how many are blowing up but just a confidence it’s not there but the truck is amazing truck. I change my oil every 5000 miles the first oil change I did was at 4000 and then I did another one at 6000 something and I’m gonna start changing it every 5000 and I’ll let the dealer do it Every 5000 as well so basically it’s going on 6000 miles so at 10,000 I’ll take it to the dealer let them change it at 10,000 and then it’s actually 9090 is when they want it and then I’ll change it at 15,000 they can change it at 20,000. That’s how we’re gonna do it for the first two years cause I got free oil change but I also bought the 10 year 100,000 mile warranty, so that gives me some piece of mine but I really really love this truck s the ride in the power is so amazing on this truck. It has so much torque. I just am scared about the motor but I do have some peace of mind because I bought the extended warranty anyway take care. God bless and I hope you enjoy as much as I enjoy mine and and this is for Toyota. You need to make this right with all the people that are having issues with their tundras and don’t drag your feet do it right away because the ones that are having issues they’re out of a truck and they paid $70-$80,000 for these trucks. I paid 82,000 we didn’t pay that much money for a piece of crap, you need to make a right Toyota otherwise you got a 40 year reputation on the line with these three years of these tundras because it goes from 22 to 24 as far as we know I don’t know about the 25 yet
I work for an engine parts supplier that makes the camshaft and cam caps for these engines, Toyota has a TON of issues with these engines, they are finding anything and everything to try and void the warranty on as many of these as they can. DO NOT off road these trucks, even lightly if there is ANY dust or dirt in the air intake filter housing they will report and potentially void your warranty! Tons of Turbo system issues. No thanks. The fuel economy and power are not better than the V8. It's an over engineered more expensive much more expensive system, that is not as reliable.
That is exactly my truck. I think it looks great and i like rolling down the back glass. Cheap plastic bumpers and new brake kit on order from dealer under warranty. So far engine runs great and tows my camper really well. 25k and hopefully don't get the bearing problem
Old Toyota Master Tech here. I wouldn’t own one. The V-8 may have poor fuel economy but they’re dead reliable and run forever with basic maintenance. Toyota has really lost its way in my opinion. They used to pride themselves on being the most reliable vehicle made but not anymore.
Just another 'yota master tech. Completely agreeing with you. I did a year long stint as a writer for ford a decade ago. These new tundra's are built ford tough and not in a good way.
@@louisalmeida4894 It’s still a better truck than any other? No, in some cases it isn’t. Just building a truck that isn’t quite as bad of a POS as other brands is a pretty sad indicator of how low Toyota has fallen in quality. I started with them when the dealers didn’t even employ engine and transmission techs because they didn’t need them. Apparently the buying public doesn’t care about quality as long as they can sweat the payments on a $60,000 POS.
I understand from what feedback I've gotten, that real world fuel economy on the new Tundra is not that much better. I had hoped Toyota's hybrid would have been more like Ford's with better fuel efficiency and Ford's on board 7200 watt generator is a nice feature as well. But no way am I buying a Ford so I'll keep my 2018 Tundra for a while till something starts to make sense. Its got 100k miles and it's paid for. Great information, thanks for the content.
People who buy a truck shouldn't be surprised when they don't not get great gas mileage, hybrid or not. That said, my 2020 F150 5.0 was getting 18mpg on our 1500 mile trip from Pittsburgh to St Louis and back. That is far better than the 14-16mpg my older 2011 F150 5.0 got on our road trips to Florida.
2008 tundra owner 5.7 , why couldn't toyota have kept the 5.7 paired it with the 10 speed auto changed the gear ratio to maybe a 3:73 that would have greatly improved mpg?
Well, I just added a 2023 Tundra. SR5 TRD. So far I’ve kept my 2012 with the 5.7. It’s been literally flawless, and pulling a heavy trailer on occasions. We will see how it compares to the new twin turbo.
I'm not a mechanic, and have not heard the term "under squared." I do own a 23 LX with the 3.44 TT. I did about 300 miles yesterday, and I may be the minority, but on the highway this motor is excellent. In truth, over 8k miles, I am averaging 19 mpg. Additionally, in truth, I have never seen the 22 mpg as advertised. In South Florida driving at 70 and any version of driving for mpgs is impossible without being pushed off the road into the median. So, a little (wink) over the speed limit 20.5 is what I'm getting. The LX does have shortcomings being full frame and its offroad abilities. The build quality in my eyes is phenomenal and makes owning and driving a pleasure, I love it. I wonder if there are a difference between Japan and Alabama engines. I'm not going to be dogging this off road, but I plan on driving it until I no longer drive. The next guy can do that. Excellent explanation and video.
Could you please for the love of god go over turbo charger life for all the boomers. Diesel and gas. Everyone just thinks the turbos blow every oil change, when in fact they rarely fail if maintained. Just like a diesel. Thanks!
The same situation back in the 1960’s with the manufactures went from drum brakes to disc brakes. All new to the driving public, they wouldn’t trust the new disc brakes, would only trust the old drums they were familiar with. Just like with the turbo engines, they think that the engine is always running at full boost, wearing out the turbos and stressing the engine, even at idle😝 their ignorance will pass…
What we’re seeing in the field has these things are gaining mileage, is the dual injection is not really helping with the carbon buildup on the intake valves, in fact these are carboning up really bad despite being dual injection
Hey man... why'd you restrict your latest video on this Tundra to private? Getting too much heat from Toyota Canada? Just remember that you're making money here off your subscribers and viewers and we value your opinion about the vehicles you review. We want unbiased information so please keep doing so and continue to talk about the downsides of vehicles you review with honesty. That is why I watch you. I'm sure many will say the same.
I think Toyota blew it by setting up the hybrid for more power instead of more economy. The non-hybrid has plenty of power for most applications. Apparently plenty of people feel this way as it is being reported that the hybrid versions are not selling all that well.
I put 1000 miles on both the Powerboost and the Tundra Hybrid. Not only did Toyota miss the mark on fuel economy, Powerboost got 24mpg, Tundra got 18, the big miss was in the lack of torque fill. The powerboost felt so much stronger at all points and uses of the throttle. The Tundra was good, just not nearly as strong imo.
interesting that you mentioned that. first time I thought about it like that. and Yes the hybrid is about more power not improved economy. I wonder if that would of swayed more buyers.
In a way it aids in economy since it assists with start up and take off and idling. But I agree with the above comment about the truck being too heavy and the battery being too small to do much else. They also opted to not go with a LiIon battery to keep cost down and reliability up.
I am seeing about 1% failure rate of these engines. Look at DIY JIM’s videos. His 22’ just gernaded last week and it was $28,000 to repair it and a month. What is causing this?
@LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD it is that simple? Why are the same supplier robots bolted to a factory floor in Japan going to work better than those robots bolted to a concrete floor in Huntsville Alabama? You can't believe toyota chose a wrong plasma spray coating on crank bearings, a wrong bearing clearance, or an ignition timing and fueling map that is stressing the bearings to failure? If America was root cause then why don't Ford 3.5 EB grenade at 25k miles? The cause may be engineering decisions made in Japan or bearings sourced in who knows where.
Great video appreciate your honesty. It’s funny how the comments section are filled with people complaining/hating about turbos on a Toyota truck when all manufacturers are going that route and putting turbos on their trucks: i.e 2025 Ram 1500. Lets see the comment section when you drop that video. Bet turbos on a truck won’t be an issue there lol
When I learned Toyota was ditching their naturally aspirated engines for turbo 6 cyl/4 cyl, I worried they were about to ruin their reputation for being the most reliable vehicle manufacturer 😰. However, after watching you explain everything about this V6 and seeing how confident you were in it, my mind has been put at ease 😄. As you said, though, only time will tell 🤷♂️. Thanks!
Give me a Chevy 350 with a 4BBL carb. Enough with trying to squeeze water out of a rock. This is the reason that Ford F-150 are blowing up all over the place. There is no replacement for displacement!
258k on my 2012 5.7 4wd double cab still running strong only issue was. Y lower control arm other then that everything still original hope my next buy is a 2021 ...yup 5.7 tundra 4x4 they are reliable
2022 and 2023 owners are experiencing catastrophic failure like crazy, I was surprised you didn’t mention it… not sure if 2024 are better… I am a Toyota fan but not buying one until them figure out what is going on.
Can you elaborate on what catastrophic failures? They had issues with a supplier of the wastegate on the early production trucks but that was resolved and wasn't catastrophic.
@@jza80kingI've heard it too. It boils down to quality control. It's not a lot of them failing but same thing is even happening with Honda j series engines last few years. Honestly it's a shame
Why do people ask for evidence on the internet? Just search. The forums are talking about it. Several other truck news coverage channels have covered. Literally, a 3 second search will return all your answers.
Been driving my 23 Platinum for almost a year now and 20k miles! Other than the rear differential being replaced at 16k miles under warranty I really have no complaints, it was making s wining noise at certain speeds, funny enough the loaner Toyota gave me, 2024 1794, was having the same noise. Had a 2023 SR5 without the noise, so I guess it is a hit or miss with the new Tundra. Time will tell!
Sure I miss the v8 of course. But really. This video shows why the V6 ain't all that bad! Well done video. The stroke and bore ratios really gets me going.
The only issue is that there are more moving parts like 3 radiators and electric water pumps and plumbing plus coolant services and twin turbos etc….. A lot going on here but this is the new generation of compilation to try and solve fuel consumption. Don’t get me wrong this isn’t just Toyota it’s all brands which makes it difficult to choose a vehicle in today’s market. Great job in your opinion of this engine. Ty
I know a lady at work that got one and it broke down at 16,000 miles. it's been in the shop for 3 weeks with no estimated time when it will be finished!!! Wtf😬🤯
@@jeanclaude7018 yeah old toyota, not new ones.... Anything after 2008, besides the 4 runner, and Tacoma up too 2015 is junk doesn't matter what brand even toyota and honda
I bought a 22 tundra w 63k miles last week. I had less than a week and the engine seized up. Factory warranty is only 60 miles. We’ll see what the dealer says. So far they’re “working it”.
Toyota calls this a "safety recall." Machining debris getting pumped throughout the engine messing up main bearings and other critical machined surfaces. Your post is the first one in response to this video I've seen. I wouldn't touch one of these vehicles with a ten foot pole.
Whats funny is everyone is crapping on the engine but they had a production issue not a design issue. They have used this engine in the ls500 since like 2018 maybe later. So for a the almost 900 confirmed in the tundra is minimal percent with the 100k recalled and even less of a percentage with the total truck sold/ lexus suv.
Very good video. Informative. I’ve read a lot about concerns for this engine’s longevity. I’ll wait a few years to see how these last but I can’t imagine Toyota putting out a bad engine. I read they test their engines by running them 24/7 for 24 months. By the time their new engine makes it to market, they have 1M test miles on them.
@@Nick-ue7iw no, they have a test engine in a room that they run 24/7. By the time that model engine hits market the test engines have 1M. How would you interpret my post as Toyota putting used engines in new trucks??? Holy cow
@@carboydorifutoparty3976 I dont think it would be necessary to extend the front of the truck because of a 3.5L straight 6 engine. We used to have bigblock straight 6s on trucks and even passenger cars. Ford used to have a 4.9L engine on a much smaller square-body pickup-truck.
@@rogeriopimenta6247 still. Crash saftey standards are different from back then so that plays a role that may need them to redesign the front of their cars to some degree. Not to say it's impossible, but they probably went V6 because it's just cheaper than easier to throw in chassis that they already have and don't have to redesign to put a V6 in already.
Man.. I have not seen an explanation regarding this engine this clear, detailed, and concise. I hope you make more of these reviews.
I am with you. I hope he does
Yeah buy doesn't talk about if this trucks have a transmission cooler or how much high the transmission temperature can go without burn the transmission.
@@pecosb5221You want him to read the entire spec sheet to you? Maybe use that fucking head of yours and find out the basic features on your own. Or you need to be spoon fed?
Tinkerer's Adventure made a video 2 weeks ago very detailed
engine problem. ua-cam.com/video/oHYlqQaywTA/v-deo.htmlsi=VaFgJQPtBctFVvN5
2023 Tundra SR5 4X4
Already over 42,XXX miles and going strong!!! Not a single issue.. I LOVE mine!!!
They are really good trucks
1999 Tundra V8 Still Going Strong After 800 000 Miles.
2003 with 678,971 and still going
42k is still a brand new truck. Give us an update when u hit 200k.
I agree with petry 🤷♂️
Duuuuuuuude you did it. Really great video! This is why i like what you do over TFL and Pickup Plus. They wanna be first and they just regurgitate the same crap in ALL their videos. You are breaking it down mechanically, good and bad. You and the Car Care Nut are tops in my book. Looking forward to more.
Car Care Nut is not entirely objective - it mainly deals with Toyotas, I don't even comment on TFL similar ones. This guy is OK, although he is not entirely objective - he works indirectly for Cummins and he has made some mistakes - such as the way of comparing payload, but he is still better compared to many other channels.
There are also many very good channels, but with lower viewership, which are prevented by YT algorithms from reaching a wider audience, and many talented mechanics unfortunately give up after a series of videos with several hundred views :/
@@coolftpDo you know what the word objective means? What does dealing with Toyota have to do with being objective? He is literally a Toyota tech so no fucking shit he will focus on what his area of expertise is. Lets see you do better.
And are you seriously bitching about some trivial shit like comparing payload?
I don't think TFL are real mechanics
They don't know much about engines
A 5.7L V8 has a better ring to it.
I will not argue with you there! lol
Totally agree 👍🏻
Especially with a trd exhaust 😆
And a better timing chain that doesn’t break.😒
Damn. I wish they still allowed you to get a V8 as an option. @@mikehughes8023
I drive a 2007 Tundra with the 5.7L. 190k Miles and it runs perfectly. Yes the fuel economy sucks but I put up with it since it is so reliable.
It'll get mileage when you get to around 400,000 my 07 5.7 did. 641,000 now getting 17/18 easily sometimes !!!
Have patience !!!
those engines run up to a 1 mill.
Put a wix air filter in it and lucas fuel injector cleaner it'll boost the economy
My neighbor has a 2023 with this engine. She tows a 24 foot bumper pull trailer. After 22K miles, the engine locked up and was replaced under warranty. This is the second one I know of that failed at about this mileage.
I'm not surprised. These engines are made in aBaLaMa. Notice the engines made in Japan for the land cruiser have no issues and they beat the hell out of them in the middle east.
I always take blown up engines with a grain of salt, regardless of manufacturer I always speculate the driver being at fault. I over tow/haul with my Subaru that is NOT rated to tow at all. And Subarus don't have the best rep of being "reliable" but after 120k km without a single problem, I always think it's the driver's fault. I follow the "severe" service schedule, and cut it in half. Way too many people follow the normal service and drive under severe conditions and blame the vehicle for blowing up.
But i'm glad there are people blowing up the new Tundra, just means when I get mine, Toyota's gonna have the issue fixed.
*Alabama engine assemblers are to blame*
@@gwot There are way too many 2022+ Tundras with blown engines to "take it with a grain of salt". These engines aren't failing because of some kind of lack of maintenance either. The bearings are failing in the bottom end. Toyota quality isn't what it was in the 90's when they were at their peak for reliability. Even the 2GR-FKS in the 3rd gen Tacoma has had an alarming number of engine failures.
@@CACressida Those have issues too...Remember in the Middle east they have cash to replace them asap..
Have a ‘22 Tundra 1794 STD bed w/ auto leveling air suspension. Now with almost 25,000 miles.
I tow a 39’ Gand Design Imagine 2920 over several weeks the last two seasons. No issues so far. It handles the load extremely well.
My previous Tundra is a 2003 4.7L 2U-ZFE w/ 235,000 miles. Obviously night and day difference. Heck the Tacoma is almost bigger than it. That one still runs great and I continue to use it around the property.
I also have a 2022 1794 Tundra! Love it.
Good, now do you check the transmission temperature when you were pulling the trailer? I just got a 2024 SR5 loaded no hybrid but now I am worry about the transmission temperature when I am pulling a RV trailer dry weight is 4000 Pounds.
For me if I was going to buy a Tundra I would get a 21 Tundra with a 5.7L I-Force V8.
I have an ‘08, with 70K and after driving a new generation Tundra, absolutely NO WAY I would purchase one!
Especially considering the amount of buy backs Toyota is agreeing to with said vehicles with major problems.
I have a 2010 5.7 with 187000 runs and drives like it’s brand new
@russhancock78660 Sounds awesome brother and I bet it'll outlast any overpriced EcoBoost vehicle Ford makes with ease.
I have a 2014 SR5 5.7 bought new in 2013 with only 120,000 km now love it .☃️👍👍
@@brucemacdonald4672 Got a 16 Sequoia with 172k miles last week. Drives better than new.
Very informative video! I’m a 5.7 Tundra owner and will be keeping it due to reliability and simplicity of the interior components. Looking forward to your next video on the 3.4!
Even those 5.7s have problems that can cost thousands to repair
the first couple years of an engine do have some kinks to work out. But yes next week we'll dive into some issues.
@@DJR5280like every engine yes, but less likely than most it seems
Any engine “ can” have problems that cost thousands to repair. It just rarely ever happens with the 5.7. Also the 6 speed transmission paired with it is bullet proof. I love my 2018 tundra.
2011 5.7 liter going strong. Will run it until the wheels fall off.
Top tier technical review! Learned a lot. Thanks for sharing
Wow I didn’t expect you to be here.
Proud owner of 2023 Toyota Tundra. It has some short comings but it’s greatness is in its smooth shifting, overbuilt Toyota ways. They are not perfect but I trust them most out of all the automakers.
Also great technical review.
They are ugly as sin. It looks like Darth Vader styled them.
You really geeked out on that review . Nice one! Bore to stroke is the secret. I loved my 5.7 for 16 years but the cost of gas was it's demise. Amazing truck. This new one , not so sure. More of a preppy city truck. IMO.
This is the go to video on the v35a FTS! So much information. Just bought a 24 tundra and learned everything I need to know about this new engine. Pretty much widespread advice change the oil at 5k miles. I will be doing it at 3-4k miles. Have to keep the turbos happy
After owning two Toyota trucks for the last 18 years I didn’t consider replacing my Tundra with a new Tundra. Too many used on the market probably because of some of the reported issues the first two years have had amd more so my local dealers still insist on trying to sell shit you don’t need and mark them up! New F150 owner that got a great deal and is very happy after nine months.
Your channel is awesome and you’re a great presenter!
Well thank you sir I appreciate it! Honestly I used to joke about fords being garbage but after driving so many truck I think the F150 is a great truck. they aren't perfect but no truck is.
A lot of them could be lease returns, or repos. It’s very common. People have to have things, but can barely afford them, and losing one paycheck can put them behind.
@@user-ln7of9gs4s Quite a few are buybacks or trade-ins because the engines are failing and leaving owners uninterested in keeping it out of warranty. There are guys that had not one but two engines fail, so I doubt he's intent on keeping the truck.
I have been waiting for this video, and hope you get to make one comparing the 5.7 L and the 3.4 L. Thanks for the video
I'm hoping to do exactly that.
I am driving New Tundra since November. Lots of power .
Agreed I like the power when I drove it.
I got my IForce max 1.5 years ago just hit 30K miles no issues. Neighbor close by has had his for longer no issues.
Love the 5.7 in our sequoia. Haven’t driven one of these but have driven the 3.5,2.7 and 5.0 ford
Congrats on 50 thousand subscribers!
Thanks man! It means a lot and I really appreciate your support and all your comments
You are becoming an important part of my automotive interests. Great job on those reviews bro. I loved your 3.0L Ecodiesel segment... hope mine keeps doing me good lol
Appreciate it sir! Keep that engine running hot and you should be just fine lol
The truck is built in Texas. The engine is built in Alabama by a supplier. There has been a casting issue with the block causing catastrophic engine failure. I don’t know how many engines are effected. Toyota says the problem has been corrected. The power numbers are better than the V8 but reliability is questionable.
The engine is built at Toyota's engine plant in Huntsville, Alabama. It would be interesting if they built that engine at their other two engine plants in Kentucky and West Virginia to determine if the failure(s) are specific to that facility.
There was a few people saying rod bearing failures on these engines. One guy in the comments on UA-cam said he got rid of his after a crank bearing failed, Toyota replaced the engine and then it failed on the new engine too.
Another example of an offset crank is the 1988+ GM/BUICK 3800 V6, which is loved and celebrated for its astonishing longevity and reliability. Really impressed that Toyota went with the port/direct injection set up. Completely eliminates the GDI carbon issue without expensive services, cleanings, or possible severe engine problems. I really wish GM and Chrysler would go that way on their GDI engines.
Why do people make such a big deal about GDI carbon buildup? Not all DI-only engines are designed the same. The carbon buildup is primarily caused by EGR dumping exhaust into the intake... but I know for a fact that GM's DI V8's don't even have an EGR system. I don't hear anyone freaking about about diesel engines not having fuel sprayed on the back of the valves. They go for hundreds of thousands of miles without an issue. The examples of DI carbon buildup that I see cited are almost exclusively DI engines made by VW/Audi and Toyota where they used EGR's and poorly designed PCV systems that caused horrific buildup.
Chrysler Hemi V8 and Pentastar V6 do not use direct fuel injection.
These turbocharged Tundras and Tacomas will end up being a mechanical NIGHTMARE. Just watch and see folks, bring back the V6 Tacomas and the V8 Tundras!!!!!!!
I had never watched any of your videos. Unbiased and factual. Great job! I have subscribed...Look forward to the next installment and the dreaded 2022 crank bearings discussion 🙂
It’s a new engine, like any new design it’ll have some kinks to work out and areas that need refining. But that falls into Toyota’s philosophy of improving things over time and not coming out with something completely new every few years. I think in a few years these will be pretty reliable engines in general. Hard to say if some of the early issues people have reported are due to engineering and design issues with the motor itself or build quality issues.
As far as the old 5.7L goes generally speaking they are very reliable but not without their own common issues. In my personal experience I had a 2011 Tundra with that motor that dropped a valve at 88,000 miles destroying itself.
The engine has been around since 2017 or 18; the issue is this engine is built in North America.. hence the issues.
where are the rest of the 3.4L made? Japan?
Yes
Yeah a lot of people think the 5.7L was a perfect engine from a reliability standpoint but they have had plenty of issues. Mine leaked oil from the cam towers and took three different attempts by the dealer to fix it. It also had a VVT solenoid fail and cooked starters alive, which the dealer wanted a ton of money to replace because it's an 8 hour job due to its location. Needed a rear main seal well before 100k miles which was very unimpressive considering I never hear about other brands of trucks having rear main seals leak as often as I did 2nd gen Tundras.
@@EthCepherincorrect. This engine in its current form is new for the Tundra. Also some of these motors as spinning main bearings requiring nearly new trucks to have engine replacements. Look on forums or do a little digging and it’s easy to find multiple cases. And some of these vehicles have been LX600’s built in Japan….
My questions is, did they increase bearing areas when they decided to turbocharge the 3.5? They took a smaller engine, with fewer components, to produce the same hp as a larger v8. Same stress is now spread out over fewer pistons, rods, bearings, and crank, not to mention the block itself. It's a lot of stress for a smaller hunk of aluminum. If they're going to use a longer stroke, boosted no less, I would think the connecting rod bearings are going to have to be fairly heavy duty. Time will tell I guess.
No Toyota did not cobble this engine together. Who would think they would risk their reputation doing such a dumb thing. Now the engine issues some customers have been seeing with bearing failures are likely supplier quality or assembly issue. Unfortunately, no manufacturer is immune to such things in supply chain. Honda has major recall for their 3.5L V6 engines that have been in production long-time due to crank bearing failures (too tight clearances). I don't fear Toyota as much as their suppliers and where those suppliers are located to cut costs. China or Mexico IMO are opportunities for disasters. Same for all manufacturers.
@@kannermwMaybe they shouldn't be pushing such sophisticated powerplants if they're suppliers suck. Did they upgrade bearing areas from naturally aspirated? I hope, unless the original 3.5 had overkill bearings in the first place. When you take a smaller engine and ask it to push as much hp as a larger engine, reliability and longevity suffer. This is not a new concept. It's well known with OTR diesel trucks. Also, in aviation, they tend to stay with relatively low power to weight ratios in piston engines to increase reliability. I think Toyota is just stuck between a rock and a hard place with US emissions BS, and trying to solve it with what they already have, mostly. Otherwise they would've come up with a completely new engine design.
@@ArnoldsDesign This nonsense about turbo engines is overblown. Diesel turbos have been around for decades. Toyota makes mistakes but in this case people are freaking out over nothing. The V6 is designed as heavy duty turbo engine not some spare parts pin special. These engines will be reliable and the V8 loons buying gasoline by the barrel and emptying their wallets will stop whining in < 5 years. Gas prices will continue going up unless we have major recession. Supplier quality problems are an issue regardless of engine tech. Unfortunately, we are in an era where manufacturers are struggling to improve profitability. That means sourcing components from countries that do not have Japanese quality systems and mindsets. Fortunately these things are covered under warranty. Much better than a crappy design that fails just outside of warranty.
Great review! I traded my 2015 LC (5.7) for a 2024 Tundra 1794 TRD off road. Had the LC for 6 years a few small issues. Biggest complaint, living in the gas station. So far I have to say the Tundra is winning on comfort, performance and gas mileage. Time will tell as you said.
I had the first failure in Canada. Spun a bearing at 18k kilometers. First round of engines had major issues with bearings not getting oil. I waited 4 months for the repair, and was treated like garbage from Toyota. Traded it in after for a ran 5.7 and never looked back
Hey Quicsilver... I feel your pain regarding dealing with Toyota over warranty issues. My Tacoma had so many issues we nicknamed it the Lemona 🍋. It spent more time on the dealerships lift than it did in our garage.
Traded it in for a 5.0 F150... so far zero issues after 76k.
When they started building the Tacoma in Mexico I knew that issues would follow
Smart move.
RAM lmao
@@mhm925 people that make comments like this usually have 3500 dollar scrap pickups.
They need to bring out a inline 6 with twin turbos !
Ram has their Hurricane twin turbo 3.0L inline six engine their trucks coming out soon.
Buy a Ram and your dream will come true.
an inline 6 would of been awesome.
Loved the classic 4.0 straight 6 Jeep had up until the earlier 2000s. Was a great engine!
@@scupking
Imagine a slightly modernized version of this good old 4.0. 🤯
Fueleconomy would be much better especially when the engine would come with an 6 speed manual or torqueconverter with lock up function.
Great videos. I enjoy the mechanical reviews. Lots of other reviewers don't cover mechanicals as in depth as you do.
It looks copy the ford’s front. But how does the truck tow, and fuel economy. Toyota’s V8 got terrible mileage.
The thing I have an issue with on these is that some features are linked to a spyware contract you have to sign before they switch them on, and you need to pay a rental fee for them after the introductory period. I believe that includes the remote start, so from my perspective it doesn't have remote start. Some manufacturers even rent you the use of your heated seats.
It’s the special treatment that Toyota owners get to enjoy, buy the option then pay to use it
@@paulhunter9613Not necessarily. My 4Runner didn't have a start-from-app option. No remote start was included or available on mine. However, I purchased one from Amazon that works with the factory key fobs. I agree, it's ridiculous to include an option, only to charge a subscription fee for it. Kinda silly that you spend $40-50k and don't get to use the options without paying.
@@paulhunter9613 That's absurd. I've heard about Toyota being big on this and I'll never own one. I don't even pay for the Navigation on my Ford. My heated seats and remote start are included cause I already payed for them.
@@302Mustang13 yes it is absurd, when you purchase the option you should not have to pay a subscription to use it. Hopefully other manufacturers won’t try to do this pay to play in the future
@@paulhunter9613 I can understand a fee to use Nav services and Sat radio, but heated seats and remote start are part of the base or option pricing.
owned a 22' chevy with a 2.7 then traded it for a ram 22' ram 5.7 and then traded Ram for a 23' Ford f150 3.5 EB Hands down the Eco Boost is the best to drive. Ford reminds me of a Tonka truck when i was a kid. Got my Adult Tonka truck with a 2 inch lift - big tires and wheels.
The 3.5EB is the only engine I would accept in an F-150. The others have those wet belt driven oil pumps that are a guaranteed failure down the road.
Love my 22 F150 3.5 Eco. Tows like a beast! super smooth drivetrain
Good thing you ditched the GM and Dodge. Ford is the only other OEM other than Toyota with DI and MPFI. It’s the only way to do DI motors.
I love the 2.7 ecoboost in the f150. I don't tow but do haul from time to time and it is just a sweet engine. I have had the 3.5tt also and no problems. I get really good fuel mileage too.
I just love this new tundra as I bought one in 8/24 and the torque just come on so quickly at low rpm it just pulls hard . The engineering that went into this motor is a marvel …
😂
This is the info I’ve been looking for forever !
I had a 11 tundra 5.7. I made the jump to a 24 tundra. I don’t have the hybrid but the v6tt has phenomenal power. Great torque. It’s a lot of fun paired with the ten speed. Launch at a light and it just rips.
Love my 24’ Tundra Limited TRD. I have owned two of every generation of Tundra. This one is the best of all. Now that it has the rear locker, it’s the full package.
I'm not into anything Toyota but it's good that you did a review for people that like them. Your videos are well done.
I have a small fleet of Toyotas with Yamaha engines that would probably change your mind.
Nice truck.. my son who own 22 TRD model now dealer just replaced a whole engine for faulty timing chain…..😎
Part of the problem with the 5.7 that toyora never really fixed was that it didnt have a proper flex fuel sensor. So it calculated alcohol content based on other sensors. Most of the 5.7 trucks are currently over fueling the engine because it thinks there is more alcohol in the fuel. You can reset it, it gets better but after a few weeks will start climbing again and bringing the fuel mileage down. Toyota had a reflash for it but it didnt completely take care of the issue. Hell after a reset ive gotten 20 mpg on a long trip even tho it was loaded down with stuff for a weeks vacatiob at the beach.
Personally I’d rather have a V-8 without a turbo than a V-6 with one.
Yes but its Toyota they dont make junk like gmc … dodge are ford
@@joelrichard7258 They just announced a recall of almost 100,000 of the new Tundra and Lexus V6 motors. It will cost Toyota 1.6 billion dollars to replace them! I have a 2012 5.7 Tundra and I LOVE IT, but the new V6 twin turbo is bad.
@@joelrichard7258 That's the only thing that will save this engine....it's made by Toyota. But at the same time, they are asking so much from a V-6 so we shall see.
2004 SR5 V-6, 222,221 mi bought brand new and still drove like new. Never had any issues. Unfortunately, was rear ended recently which ended up being totaled out. Will be getting another Tundra.
Excellent report.
I'm not selling my 5.7 sequoia or tundra.
I had more problems with the 5.7 tundra in 2013 when it should have been perfect than the other 7 Toyota engines Iv owned combined.
I don't understand why everybody spouts about the terrible gas mileage with the 5.7. I have a 2015 with 5.7 and I Average anywhere from 17.9 to 18.6 on the highway. And yes these engines are "bullet" proof. I bought my truck brand new 2015 and I'm currently sitting at 382000 miles. With absolutely 0 issues. This is my third tundra. And everyone had well over 300,000 when I Traded Them off.
I've been reading that this engine is spinning rod bearings out with relatively low kms and that total engine replacements are needed.
I love my 2023 Tundra Platinum. Best truck I've had in 40 years.
A 3.5 twin turbo and a huge grill, wild boys! 2011 is looking like a good year for vehicles
Keeping my 5.7
Too many costly components to fail attempting to satisfy mpg numbers that aren’t achieving much better than the old reliable 5.7 not to mention payload torque and towing not much better either .
Oh and let’s not forget the huge MSRP jump …. No way on gods green earth am I paying 75k+
Great review thanks for all the detailed info .
Right on, guy
Complex and expensive...more nightmsre
100% agree. 5.7 is bulletproof!
Bro, I'm subscribed! Yota fan here will bring in more subs from the Yota fam by sharing this.
I drive a 2002 Tundra with the 4.7 V8, and my dad bought it brand new at the end of 2001. It’s got 215,000 miles on it, and that’s nothing for on of those engines!! I hope this new engine will last.
The 4.7 is vastly superior to the 5.7 they eventually replaced it with.
@@karlschauff7989 Both were outstanding engine designs. There were 5.7s that made one million miles.
Have you replaced the timing belt?
It’s been replaced twice.
Absolutely an awesome video. The explanation and thoughts on this engine really go a long way on making a decision on a new vehicle. All the new technology is crazy for us ole school engine people. Thanks and keep up the great work.
It's a nice truck. I will still with my 23 Nissan Titan Pro-4x 5.6 V8!! My Titan still gets the same mpg at that TTV6!!
I've got the Nissan Titan way better than that.New Toyota.I took that Toyota for a ride.It's sheep touched the glove box.Touch the pots inside see how cheap it is
All great until the crap Nissan transmission shits the bed.
@@generynkewicz4871
We will see, the trans is a pretty good trans from the research I've done
@@scottmendoza8989"sheep" ? "pots"? Are you cooking a sheep stew on your engine while you drive?
@generynkewicz4871 Nissans Truck transmissions actually have a good track record. Its the nissan front drive cvt that has issues
I grew up on Toyota pickups back in the 80s and 90s before the Tundra. Had my dad's small 89' SR5 extra cad w/ 4 cylinder if I remember. Loved that truck so much and got 300K miles before it was wrecked. Then got my dad's T100 for a short time. It has 500k on it now. My last 3 trucks in life have been Rams. The only reason I have passed on a new Tundra is price and the horrific fuel economy. Would love to try one of these new engines. Hopefully, the switch for from V8 will help make a good difference in fuel. I'll be watching the reviews closely.
Remember back in 2011 when everyone trash talked ford for the ecoboost ? I now introduce the toyota ecoboost 😅
the Ecoboost was trashed and I think it's held up over the years. proved some people wrong.
@TheGettyAdventures the ecoboost is still the most expensive used engine on the market which means it is replaced a lot it is also the cheapest high mileage truck compared to other. Here in FL a 2014-2016 f150 averages 5k less value than its equal 5.0 options.
That first gen 3.5 had some serious issues. The second gens for both the 3.5 and especially the 2.7 I have heard great things about their reliability. I test drove the 2.7 last month and wow what a machine!
@fl_atv_riders4455 That's the first gen, though . I've never even driven the first gen cause I myself was never sold on the ecoboost at first. I decided in 2013 that I would go with the 6.2v8 in my lariat limited. I loved that motor . I now have a 2018 second-generation ecoboost, and
It was the first ecoboost I've ever owned. The 6.2 was a monster, but this second-generation ecoboost is a different animal. Not as punchie as the 6.2 but superior in every other way
@@GettysGarage the second gen ecoboost proved me wrong the moment I hooked up my travel trailer up to it. Pulls like a dream
Watched this guy talked about the Sierra. He's a genius and I hope the manufacturers are paying him well. It would smart if they do
I'm not an "engine" guy, but this was the best video I've seen on the Tundra engine (I switched from wanting a '24 Taco to a '24 Tundra to replace my '22 Bronco BD 4 door 2.3 MT), and I'm hoping that the "negative" review that's coming doesn't totally contradict or negate all the good things you mentioned. Not sure that I'm looking forward to it, but I trust whatever you'll say about it. Subscribed and liked!
Love, love, love my 2024 Tundra 4x4 SR trim. Everything I need (accept a factory brake controller) and nothing I don’t. $48k. A great value in today’s truck market.
That is not a great value for a base model tundra. That's how much an SR5 should be costing with all the bells and whistles. My walk out on a solar octane sr5 was 65k. I didn't want a new truck I needed one so I bit the bullet. That truck should have been 50k walkout. These dealers are highway robbery. The SR has less power and has less towing capacity. The limited has less than the sr5 and it gets worse as you go up in trim. Makes no sense and sr5 has the biggest tow capacity being on the lower end of the truck tier.
@@dethtour I had several options as well. Also, the &48k includes deliver and sales tax. So, it was a great deal!
@@brianaustin1328 the most beneficial thing about getting getting the SR is simply because you can customize whatever you want without having to worry about getting rid of things you might need
what happened to the other video on the dark side of the this engine?
I have a 23 tundra platinum and I love this truck. I love everything about it the power of the ride no wind noise no cracking no squeaks none of that stuff that the other people are saying mine. It’s an amazing truck and I just love it. I just, I’m scared because so many of them are blowing up and I don’t know if the numbers are real on how many are blowing up but just a confidence it’s not there but the truck is amazing truck. I change my oil every 5000 miles the first oil change I did was at 4000 and then I did another one at 6000 something and I’m gonna start changing it every 5000 and I’ll let the dealer do it Every 5000 as well so basically it’s going on 6000 miles so at 10,000 I’ll take it to the dealer let them change it at 10,000 and then it’s actually 9090 is when they want it and then I’ll change it at 15,000 they can change it at 20,000. That’s how we’re gonna do it for the first two years cause I got free oil change but I also bought the 10 year 100,000 mile warranty, so that gives me some piece of mine but I really really love this truck s the ride in the power is so amazing on this truck. It has so much torque. I just am scared about the motor but I do have some peace of mind because I bought the extended warranty anyway take care. God bless and I hope you enjoy as much as I enjoy mine and and this is for Toyota. You need to make this right with all the people that are having issues with their tundras and don’t drag your feet do it right away because the ones that are having issues they’re out of a truck and they paid $70-$80,000 for these trucks. I paid 82,000 we didn’t pay that much money for a piece of crap, you need to make a right Toyota otherwise you got a 40 year reputation on the line with these three years of these tundras because it goes from 22 to 24 as far as we know I don’t know about the 25 yet
I work for an engine parts supplier that makes the camshaft and cam caps for these engines, Toyota has a TON of issues with these engines, they are finding anything and everything to try and void the warranty on as many of these as they can. DO NOT off road these trucks, even lightly if there is ANY dust or dirt in the air intake filter housing they will report and potentially void your warranty! Tons of Turbo system issues. No thanks. The fuel economy and power are not better than the V8. It's an over engineered more expensive much more expensive system, that is not as reliable.
My 22’ Tundra blew the passenger side turbo at 9k miles started stalling at stop lights running rough never threw a light 😢
Exactly the kind of videos I was looking for !
That is exactly my truck. I think it looks great and i like rolling down the back glass. Cheap plastic bumpers and new brake kit on order from dealer under warranty. So far engine runs great and tows my camper really well. 25k and hopefully don't get the bearing problem
I really like the 5.7 in my 2019. But im starting to warm up to the v6 with inhaler. I just wish toyota made a 3500.
Agreed, but I'd be happy with a 2500 to start with
Just like any truck when you beef up the wheels and the suspension and put a lift on it it looks amazing
Old Toyota Master Tech here. I wouldn’t own one. The V-8 may have poor fuel economy but they’re dead reliable and run forever with basic maintenance. Toyota has really lost its way in my opinion. They used to pride themselves on being the most reliable vehicle made but not anymore.
Spot on !
Just another 'yota master tech. Completely agreeing with you. I did a year long stint as a writer for ford a decade ago. These new tundra's are built ford tough and not in a good way.
The issue is everyone wants all the toys. And let’s face it, the more stuff u have the more it breaks. It’s still a better truck than any other.
I’m guessing Toyota is having to work with the new requirements set by the idiots running our federal government.
@@louisalmeida4894 It’s still a better truck than any other? No, in some cases it isn’t. Just building a truck that isn’t quite as bad of a POS as other brands is a pretty sad indicator of how low Toyota has fallen in quality. I started with them when the dealers didn’t even employ engine and transmission techs because they didn’t need them. Apparently the buying public doesn’t care about quality as long as they can sweat the payments on a $60,000 POS.
I understand from what feedback I've gotten, that real world fuel economy on the new Tundra is not that much better. I had hoped Toyota's hybrid would have been more like Ford's with better fuel efficiency and Ford's on board 7200 watt generator is a nice feature as well. But no way am I buying a Ford so I'll keep my 2018 Tundra for a while till something starts to make sense. Its got 100k miles and it's paid for. Great information, thanks for the content.
People who buy a truck shouldn't be surprised when they don't not get great gas mileage, hybrid or not. That said, my 2020 F150 5.0 was getting 18mpg on our 1500 mile trip from Pittsburgh to St Louis and back. That is far better than the 14-16mpg my older 2011 F150 5.0 got on our road trips to Florida.
Do the nissan titan 5.6
2008 tundra owner 5.7 , why couldn't toyota have kept the 5.7 paired it with the 10 speed auto changed the gear ratio to maybe a 3:73 that would have greatly improved mpg?
My V8 5.7 stays nice and cool.
With a simple cooling system.
Well, I just added a 2023 Tundra. SR5 TRD. So far I’ve kept my 2012 with the 5.7. It’s been literally flawless, and pulling a heavy trailer on occasions. We will see how it compares to the new twin turbo.
Ive always been interested in the tundra but lately ive been hearing some bad stuff
I'm not a mechanic, and have not heard the term "under squared." I do own a 23 LX with the 3.44 TT. I did about 300 miles yesterday, and I may be the minority, but on the highway this motor is excellent. In truth, over 8k miles, I am averaging 19 mpg. Additionally, in truth, I have never seen the 22 mpg as advertised. In South Florida driving at 70 and any version of driving for mpgs is impossible without being pushed off the road into the median. So, a little (wink) over the speed limit 20.5 is what I'm getting. The LX does have shortcomings being full frame and its offroad abilities. The build quality in my eyes is phenomenal and makes owning and driving a pleasure, I love it. I wonder if there are a difference between Japan and Alabama engines. I'm not going to be dogging this off road, but I plan on driving it until I no longer drive. The next guy can do that. Excellent explanation and video.
Could you please for the love of god go over turbo charger life for all the boomers. Diesel and gas. Everyone just thinks the turbos blow every oil change, when in fact they rarely fail if maintained. Just like a diesel. Thanks!
The same situation back in the 1960’s with the manufactures went from drum brakes to disc brakes. All new to the driving public, they wouldn’t trust the new disc brakes, would only trust the old drums they were familiar with.
Just like with the turbo engines, they think that the engine is always running at full boost, wearing out the turbos and stressing the engine, even at idle😝 their ignorance will pass…
@@paulhunter9613 that’s funny!
What we’re seeing in the field has these things are gaining mileage, is the dual injection is not really helping with the carbon buildup on the intake valves, in fact these are carboning up really bad despite being dual injection
Hey man... why'd you restrict your latest video on this Tundra to private? Getting too much heat from Toyota Canada? Just remember that you're making money here off your subscribers and viewers and we value your opinion about the vehicles you review. We want unbiased information so please keep doing so and continue to talk about the downsides of vehicles you review with honesty. That is why I watch you. I'm sure many will say the same.
Glad I purchased the 5.7 liter V-8
Easily one of the tundras of all time
Incredible explanation. For someone trying to understand mechanics better, this was phenomenal.
I think Toyota blew it by setting up the hybrid for more power instead of more economy. The non-hybrid has plenty of power for most applications. Apparently plenty of people feel this way as it is being reported that the hybrid versions are not selling all that well.
I put 1000 miles on both the Powerboost and the Tundra Hybrid. Not only did Toyota miss the mark on fuel economy, Powerboost got 24mpg, Tundra got 18, the big miss was in the lack of torque fill. The powerboost felt so much stronger at all points and uses of the throttle. The Tundra was good, just not nearly as strong imo.
interesting that you mentioned that. first time I thought about it like that. and Yes the hybrid is about more power not improved economy. I wonder if that would of swayed more buyers.
Truck too heavy and batteries too small to really aid efficiency.
In a way it aids in economy since it assists with start up and take off and idling. But I agree with the above comment about the truck being too heavy and the battery being too small to do much else. They also opted to not go with a LiIon battery to keep cost down and reliability up.
I am seeing about 1% failure rate of these engines. Look at DIY JIM’s videos. His 22’ just gernaded last week and it was $28,000 to repair it and a month. What is causing this?
the engine was assembled in Alabama and not Japan... that's the issue here
@LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD it is that simple? Why are the same supplier robots bolted to a factory floor in Japan going to work better than those robots bolted to a concrete floor in Huntsville Alabama? You can't believe toyota chose a wrong plasma spray coating on crank bearings, a wrong bearing clearance, or an ignition timing and fueling map that is stressing the bearings to failure? If America was root cause then why don't Ford 3.5 EB grenade at 25k miles? The cause may be engineering decisions made in Japan or bearings sourced in who knows where.
It’s the typical woke pansies that try to make it sound “America bad”@@jimmyaber5920
Great video appreciate your honesty. It’s funny how the comments section are filled with people complaining/hating about turbos on a Toyota truck when all manufacturers are going that route and putting turbos on their trucks: i.e 2025 Ram 1500. Lets see the comment section when you drop that video. Bet turbos on a truck won’t be an issue there lol
Great review. I still like the V8
Gotta love a good V8!
When I learned Toyota was ditching their naturally aspirated engines for turbo 6 cyl/4 cyl, I worried they were about to ruin their reputation for being the most reliable vehicle manufacturer 😰. However, after watching you explain everything about this V6 and seeing how confident you were in it, my mind has been put at ease 😄. As you said, though, only time will tell 🤷♂️. Thanks!
Give me a Chevy 350 with a 4BBL carb. Enough with trying to squeeze water out of a rock. This is the reason that Ford F-150 are blowing up all over the place. There is no replacement for displacement!
258k on my 2012 5.7 4wd double cab still running strong only issue was. Y lower control arm other then that everything still original hope my next buy is a 2021 ...yup 5.7 tundra 4x4 they are reliable
The 5.7 loves to keep running
2022 and 2023 owners are experiencing catastrophic failure like crazy, I was surprised you didn’t mention it… not sure if 2024 are better… I am a Toyota fan but not buying one until them figure out what is going on.
Can you elaborate on what catastrophic failures? They had issues with a supplier of the wastegate on the early production trucks but that was resolved and wasn't catastrophic.
@@jza80kingI've heard it too. It boils down to quality control. It's not a lot of them failing but same thing is even happening with Honda j series engines last few years. Honestly it's a shame
Where is the evidence?
@@777theright88I'm interested in evidence too.
Why do people ask for evidence on the internet? Just search. The forums are talking about it. Several other truck news coverage channels have covered. Literally, a 3 second search will return all your answers.
personally love the look, lots might think otherwise but way better looking than prev gen, but man i wish it had a v8
Been driving my 23 Platinum for almost a year now and 20k miles! Other than the rear differential being replaced at 16k miles under warranty I really have no complaints, it was making s wining noise at certain speeds, funny enough the loaner Toyota gave me, 2024 1794, was having the same noise. Had a 2023 SR5 without the noise, so I guess it is a hit or miss with the new Tundra. Time will tell!
But nothing on a Toyota is ever supposed to break!
I’m looking at replacing my 2016 f-150 with one of these.
Glwt
I'll buy the 16 if it's a 5.0 lol
Just bought a 5.7 hemi with etorque. Surprisingly goof fuel economy for this truck.
Finally, something japanese, about time!! you should also do the 5.7 3UR-FBE OR 3UR-FE
haha well technically these engines are made in the old USA but yes I would love to compare this to the 5.7L
Sure I miss the v8 of course. But really. This video shows why the V6 ain't all that bad! Well done video.
The stroke and bore ratios really gets me going.
That cooling system is gonna be an awful mess fixing when something breaks
Bingo! I'm going to talk about exactly that next week. Sounds great off the factory line but what about 6 years down the line.
The only issue is that there are more moving parts like 3 radiators and electric water pumps and plumbing plus coolant services and twin turbos etc….. A lot going on here but this is the new generation of compilation to try and solve fuel consumption. Don’t get me wrong this isn’t just Toyota it’s all brands which makes it difficult to choose a vehicle in today’s market. Great job in your opinion of this engine. Ty
I just watched the video on the things he doesn't like about this engine and now it's been deleted. What gives?
Could it be the recall?
I know a lady at work that got one and it broke down at 16,000 miles. it's been in the shop for 3 weeks with no estimated time when it will be finished!!! Wtf😬🤯
Shh. Don't tell anyone! Toyota is supposed to walk on water and NEVER break down!
@@jeanclaude7018 yeah old toyota, not new ones.... Anything after 2008, besides the 4 runner, and Tacoma up too 2015 is junk doesn't matter what brand even toyota and honda
@@eriknorman7409 The world is winding down as far as integrity goes. People wonder why I like my stuff from the 80s and 90s.
No Surprise! It’s happening to a few of them
@@robertlandrum8598 The fanboys are VERY quiet on this. Their identities and egos are shattered.
I bought a 22 tundra w 63k miles last week. I had less than a week and the engine seized up.
Factory warranty is only 60 miles. We’ll see what the dealer says. So far they’re “working it”.
Toyota calls this a "safety recall." Machining debris getting pumped throughout the engine messing up main bearings and other critical machined surfaces. Your post is the first one in response to this video I've seen. I wouldn't touch one of these vehicles with a ten foot pole.
Whats funny is everyone is crapping on the engine but they had a production issue not a design issue. They have used this engine in the ls500 since like 2018 maybe later. So for a the almost 900 confirmed in the tundra is minimal percent with the 100k recalled and even less of a percentage with the total truck sold/ lexus suv.
Not a fan of mouse motors in any truck that will be used for pulling any kind of loads.
The EPA has destroyed everything.
Very good video. Informative. I’ve read a lot about concerns for this engine’s longevity. I’ll wait a few years to see how these last but I can’t imagine Toyota putting out a bad engine. I read they test their engines by running them 24/7 for 24 months. By the time their new engine makes it to market, they have 1M test miles on them.
Now new truck has a million miles engine in it LMAO. The test mules may have that, but not production vehicles.
@@Nick-ue7iw no, they have a test engine in a room that they run 24/7. By the time that model engine hits market the test engines have 1M. How would you interpret my post as Toyota putting used engines in new trucks??? Holy cow
Why not a straight 6??? Toyota is great at making Inline 6 engines.
Crash saftey/having to extend the front ends of multiple cars/platforms more is more of the reason that'd increase cost.
I would of LOVED to see a straight 6.
Because this engine block is from Lexus and the V6 fits in more engine bays compared to a long straight 6. All the usual reasons.
@@carboydorifutoparty3976 I dont think it would be necessary to extend the front of the truck because of a 3.5L straight 6 engine. We used to have bigblock straight 6s on trucks and even passenger cars. Ford used to have a 4.9L engine on a much smaller square-body pickup-truck.
@@rogeriopimenta6247 still. Crash saftey standards are different from back then so that plays a role that may need them to redesign the front of their cars to some degree. Not to say it's impossible, but they probably went V6 because it's just cheaper than easier to throw in chassis that they already have and don't have to redesign to put a V6 in already.