Is THIS how you play 8-ball??..... APA 8-Ball League Match SL-7 vs SL-6
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- Опубліковано 1 жов 2024
- Guys, I'm very excited about the camera upgrade..... but this match here was just part of the learning curve! The white balance and color are all off, but I've already corrected it for ones going forward! Didn't want to not share a match anyway, so here you go. Focus on this one is essentially decision making, tell me what you think!
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I really appreciate the lines and the explaining of the shots. I know that takes time and you are killing it. Any chance you might talk more about the English you use on some of the shots? Keep up the the great work.
🙏🏼 thank you for the kind comments, Chris!
I think it was you who asked this before in another video, and I gotta say, I think about it every time I’m spending time drawing the lines.
It may seem like I’m not bringing up the english (sidespin) very often, which is mainly because 1. I don’t use a Ton of it, and 2. It’s not super important for the shot.
When it IS important, I do make sure to draw a small arrow off of the rail where the spin takes effect (see 24:15 of this video), showing if I was using inside/outside spin.
I am going to make a video on when you should START considering using English soon! Thank you for the kind words! Next video quality is the Next Chapter for the channel 👊🏼👊🏼👊🏼
Drag and stun-follow are two shots that are under-utilised in pool.
Yes! Both of these shots I pretty much *never* use because I’m not good at them.
👆🏼 this- is my next step in trying get more consistent with running out
Your new camera setup is looking good, the angle is also great! I've been watching your channel since the beginning and like what I see here. Your very informative and very articulate as well. I wish I could comentate on my APA videos but I have a congestion problem that would make it very hard for me to speak without having to clear my voice every few minutes or so lol. Either way, I'll keep watching and learning from you. I am a much lower end player, only an SL4 but getting better with time. Keep up the great work my friend!
Thank you so much!!
Honestly, I was just starting on the next video, where I actually figured out how to setup the brightness and color, etc… and it looks AMAZING compared to this! I can’t believe I thought this looked really good at first 😂😂 I hope you like the next one 👊🏼
I am very glad that my videos are hitting well for you!! Honestly, I know I am not a Fargo 700, and I personally don’t think I’m qualified to give much advice for SL-7’s… but my target really for the pointers I give, are SL-4ish.
As you progress in the game, the SL-4 is such a fun part of the journey. There are so many things that can *click* and completely change your game… which only adds to the enjoyment of your competition. I’m just trying to add my 2 cents into those *clicks* while we try and learn from other amateurs mistakes!
Please, if there is anything I could add/change, let me know! But keep at the game! The path from SL-4 to SL-6 is right in front of you 🫡
@@drewvonporte That is very good advice Drew! I definately look forward to your future advice and expertise.
As far as the camera, I use a slightly older flagship Android phone with the Open Camera app and it has been working for me. I have a much more versatile Canon T7i digital SLR camera but I find it is not a practical solution for me since It's clunky and much harder to get in a good position as the tripod only extends about 6 feet high (which is not ideal if you want to avoid people walking in front of the shot).
I like having to option to put my smartphone on another high object such as an existing shelf, table or coin machine, etc. Then extend the height further by placing it on my lightweight, smaller selfie travel tripod. It's very convienent to bring to the matches since it is so small and light that fits perfectly in an extension slot in my pool bag. It is shaped the size of an extension when collapsed so it's a perfect fit. Got to love Amazon :)
I am fairly new to filming my APA matches and related procedures and was hoping to get some input on how you set up your equipment and maybe some pointers on your editing process. I realize this is not the forum for longer conversations so if you have a short answer, that would be fine otherwise we could correspond via email if you like.
@@15DiamondBilliards you can hit me up on IG messenger! It has been a total trial-and-error process, I will tell you that! No clue what I’m doing but things get easier and better as we go 👊🏼
@@drewvonporte sounds good brother!
31:19 Draw for show, Roll for dough.
That IS what they say………
Another great video. What camera are you using? I might see if I can start videoing my matches when I start league play. Then the world can hear a Brit talk about how bad he is at pool. Was thinking of just starting with my iPhone, but the new set up definitely looks better.
This is trash compared to what’s coming! This is my iphone 15pro believe it or not!
I will be your first subscriber when you land ashore 💯💯💯
@@drewvonporte Wow. That's great to know. Will get a tripod then record on my phone.
That Was A GREAT Shot! You must have in Your own abilities. Keep in mind; You can't do anything by Yourself. Read: Jeremiah 23:9. . . Love 💗 you guys; Mr.Vito from Dallas, Texas.
Amen, brother.
Thank you so much for you kind words from the Lone Star State 🙏🏼
Is accidentally touching a ball legal in your league (just putting it back)? I've seen it the second time in your videos and for us (Europe) that would be a foul with ball in hand for the opponent. For low levels you could let it go, but at 7 vs 6 it skills it would be no question.
Yeah it’s what we call “cue ball fouls only”. Our league (APA) rules state that an attempt MUST be made to return the object ball back to it’s original position, determined by the opponent (the one who didn’t touch the ball).
APA is the amateur of amateur leagues. Very easygoing and accommodating to newer players and those still learning.
In the last game you should have taken 10 to side, shape 14 to corner stop/draw , 13 in corner 8 into rhs side pocket. Much easier to control cue ball.
Yeah, I went down a slippery slope… then somehow married the runout instead of adapting to what was falling apart 😩😩😔😔
...and Jeremy Jones says, "it's better to push than pull"... it's hard for me because I love to draw... just over the past year or so have been working on a better follow shot. rock on
*Clutch* !
Dude, same. I draw more than I should… but it’s a Lot less than how much I used to! Thanks brother!
Let me just say this; This is what I saw to make you miss the shot!
I really like this angle of the camera, to see the progression from your first video is amazing. Looks like you are getting back in stroke and vision as well since coming back to pool.
It comes and goes Lem! I don't have time to practice a ton, especially since I mess with making these videos with a lot of my spare time! Thanks a lot man, I do feel like I'm playing better than I ever have before though, albeit not Fargo 700 like some of my subscribers :(
Yeah 1st time watching.... practice stop shots, then drag shots will come naturally
I usually just slow roll the cue ball if i need to roll forward a hair, but it would be nice letting my stroke out instead.
Nice! Thanks for joining! Hope you like the content, do lemme know if there’s something youd like to see more of!
In the first rack it surprised me that you chose solids because of the 8 ball was surrounded by stripes. Not that hard to get on the 10 ball
Thanks for the input Dave! Hope you are enjoying the content 👊🏼
I bet I didn’t like the opening shot on the 15. And also getting on the 11 made me nervous. All of the solids felt runnable and easy… and the 8-ball was doable off the rail! I don’t know why I changed my mind?!?!! 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️ with the 9-ball in front of the pocket too made the pocket huge!
2 patch night! Nice shooting. Reckless and break and run.
Yaaaaaa buddy ! 😎🫨
We call ball in hand if you accidentally touch any other ball with your hand or your cue stick or bridge while trying to take a shot
We drink too much to apply that rule 🤣🤣
Jk… but only cue ball fouls in our league 🤙🏼
I played a tournament in Lansing Mi, Four days and around 2500 players. It was a VNEA. I ended up in 8'th. The thing about that tournament though is that every single one of those 2500 players were all crazy good. I didn't see a single person who wouldn't be a 7 in APA. There were 100 tables going from 7 AM to about 1 AM for 4 days and I would bet than less than 20 games of the Thousands that were played got to the 2nd shot for any given player in any given game. Every game was either a break and run or the Second player ran out. It was a don't miss situation because every single kick-at-the-can was the only one you were getting. What a tournament!
Wow, that was probably a blast!
@@drewvonporte Yeah man, I've won tons of tournaments, league MVP's ranking tournaments, yadda yadda, but that was the best tournament by far that I ever played in. You had to be playing at 100% on every single shot or you were dead. Such great memories... Cheers.
wow diamond table with ball return... i'm jealous lol.
They hook the league players up too for hourly play 🤌🏼🤌🏼
the 1st rack @8:14 - i might have taken the 8 to the side pocket instead of the corner. smaller window to make it, but closer shot. the table is probably perfectly level and the cloth looks in great shape, so a soft shot in the side pocket should roll true.
Its true, these diamonds are nice enough to take some wild shots in the side pockets, but the corners too big to pass up for me! Lets the stroke out too.
You’ll see in other videos, when I try and slow roll balls, I have a tendency to leave them hanging or not hit a rail 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
Thanks for the feedback!! Both ways work! 🤙🏼👊🏼
@@drewvonporte well you're a 7, i'm not. plus i can't really tell how tight an angle that is!
@@mikeind6378 haha oh I don’t know everything though! This position comes up all the time! Watch the pros, they will also usually shoot it down table to let their stroke out 💪🏼
Sharp side pocket cuts USUALLY do better when you roll it slowly in, so the you don’t get nippled out. And slower rolling shots can make your stroke weird and not long, smooth, and true 💎
Thats the thought anyway! Pay attention to that yourself for the next dozen you come across and lemme know!!
Couldn't watch. Bad for my eyes. I'll try another one.
Ah! Sorry mate! I was still figuring things out in this one 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
@@drewvonporte just watched the 4k vid. My eyes were happy. Nice shooting that match. (9ball/8ball)
What kind of tripod do you use?
Cheap Amazon special 😂
As tall as it goes, as close as i can get it to the table without it being in the way!
12:31 there was a sick safety here
There waaaaaaas…. I was feelin it though for some reason lol these days id be more willing to safe there, this was months ago
What kind of set up do you use ?
Tripod and camera. Now using my iphone15pro
Much better this week
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I’ve missed you 💔
he’s not a true 7
Ah, the elusive “True 7”. I have heard of them before! Bryan Sullivan are you one of them??
Rackless. Nice. Brightness on the camera is much better than the darkness. lol. I'm guessing your buddy JP didn't have his best night. Quite a few poor decisions. That bih shooting the 6 ball was a really bad choice. He could have played the 7 and probably run out. First time on the camera maybe affected his game.
Thanks dude 👊🏼👊🏼
THIS brightness is awful. Next one’s in 4k, working on it now!! 🤌🏼
As far as bih choices, 100 ways to skin a cat sometimes! Never know! But yeah, I’da took the 7 😆
Patch time
Indeedy 👊🏼
Have ya'll ever played matches on a 9ft?
I mean, I’ve been playing pool for like 15 years, and went through a stretch of playing one pocket, so I’ve def played a good bit of pool on a 9 ft, yes!
I hope barbox pool still provides some entertainment for you here on the UA-cams, since that what our league plays on! Cheers!
@@drewvonporte Yeah for sure man! Was just curious if your league ever did as I've been on a few that do. Cheers, keep up the great content
@@TheHumanAnonymous oh gotchya! Like 10 years ago, the first Masters league I played in was on 9 footers. I went winless… looking back, I can’t tell how good those guys were back then. Wonder how I’d fair now 🤔🤔
He’s a 6?
He is. I won’t give him a hard time, I know he’s not a fan of shooting with a camera on him 😅 so I felt bad that it ended up going rackless 🤐
8:10 Exactly right! I just missed a shot last night where I needed to go all the way down to play position for the 8 even though it was much easier to make the ball in the side pocket. I could not stop looking at the side pocket and I guess my wires got crossed so I missed the shot ugh
I’m not alone!!! 😂😂😂 that’s too funny, I’m glad someone agrees!!
One 7 to another, at our low points anyone can get us. But when it’s all working, it’s a beautiful thing.
It’s true 💯
This was a pretty good night for me, though I will admit that I was frustrated for the first rack or 2 about some errors. Luckily, it didn’t totally de-rail me!
Great match you played well nice way to finish
Thanks Reece!!! It felt good, but still had some silly mistakes 🫨🫨
2:26 I truly love the Humility that You posse.
Got to man 😅 or this channel is just me complainin and cryin!! 😂😂
It's definitely nice to get in a shut out right after a bad week 😎 Great match!
You mentioned something about your break. Something I can see from yours that will give you both better control of the stroke and the cue ball would be to move your grip hand forward. We usually can determine (at least I do) preferable grip position by getting our forearm and upper arm to be at a 90 degree angle to each other at the point of contact with the cue ball, something we can use practice strokes to judge. This is because that position is at the peak of our acceleration during our forward swing, when our hand is right in line with our hip, and it gives us optimal contact with the cue ball.
You appear to break in a manner similar to myself, by dropping the elbow on the forward stroke. This changes things up, because dropping the elbow causes contact with the cue ball to happen sooner than it normally would in a pendulum stroke. When your hand is towards the back of the cue, you haven't yet reached your peak forward acceleration point when you strike the cue ball. Moving it a bit forward to the point where your hand is right by your hip at cue ball contact will give you a better break shot, along with the stroke being easier to control because of your hand being in a more forward position.
Well…. This is the most anyone’s helped me with my break before so, I’m surely going to tinker with this info now.
Thanks man! A couple lucky rolls helped 😅
@@drewvonporte Absolutely, you're welcome. Breaking used to be a largely overlooked part of my game until I realized how vital having a good one was to winning against higher skilled opponents. I definitely put in an inordinate amount time in to improving mine and considering all of the free information I've gotten to improve my game from the online community, I'm more than happy to pass along things I've come across or discovered myself.
And while lucky rolls are absolutely a part of the game, it definitely seems to be the case that the better a player is the more of them they seem to get! 😂 👍🏻
@@procrastinator6902 my favorite Jeremy Jones line:
“Fortune favors the bold, Karl!”
(At least he says it a lot ha!)
I really am going to re-open this comment and dig into this when I get time to shoot next, thanks man!
you’re a 5 at best
Bryan Sullivan thank you so much!