Mercedes Benz S123 300TD | Introducing My Wagon - THERE IS A FLOORPAN!

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  • Опубліковано 27 гру 2024

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  • @citromec
    @citromec 4 місяці тому +9

    A Mercedes 123 can never be boring!👍😊
    Good luck with it, I'm envious 😅

  • @AntonioToma-q2j
    @AntonioToma-q2j 4 місяці тому +4

    She's a lovely and extremely elegant 'old lady' of a car... will look forward to seeing you work on it in the future!

  • @jamesvw
    @jamesvw 4 місяці тому +2

    Love an old Mercedes! Don't know why I haven't got one? Amazing German engineering. Great video. Thanks

  • @_schwarzbunt
    @_schwarzbunt 4 місяці тому +4

    Friedrich Geiger and whoever worked in the team under his responsibility have earned to be credited for the design, I think - not any less for it, coming across to you and maybe many others - as not designed at all. At least I appreciate it for this quality not at last.

    • @farbbunt
      @farbbunt 4 місяці тому +1

      ...Sacco for example has worked on the design of the 123 series under Geiger and made contributions, while its design clearly shows the language of the Geiger era - see e.g. the W116 as its closest precursor and of course others, ...107, 114,... back to the 108 and so forth.

  • @kristian5515
    @kristian5515 4 місяці тому +2

    Mercedes best car ever! The velour was actually just as expensive as the leatherversion. And it is holding up stupidly nice concidered the mileage. Good choice!

  • @dandandan389
    @dandandan389 4 місяці тому +1

    Love it, great old tank of a car!

  • @twocvbloke
    @twocvbloke 4 місяці тому +2

    If people think they're boring, they should see the prices they're asking for the 123 estates here in the UK, pretty valuable cars now...

  • @malcolmherbert5127
    @malcolmherbert5127 4 місяці тому +10

    No, the best station wagon ever made has to be the Citroen CX Safari. It’s front wheel drive, which you expressed a bit of regret about the Merc. not being. It’s got proper Citroen suspension on all 4 wheels rather than Mercedes knockoff on 2. It’s about as comfortable as any car ever made, and it’s cooler than every Volvo, Mercedes and Peugeot station wagon which has been manufactured. And to top it all off, you had one, admittedly a saloon, which you fixed up really well, and replaced it with the Porsche breadvan and that other Mercedes scrapper which both required much more surgery than the Citroen. Finally, the CX was designed by Robert Opron, who makes Giugiaro look like Vivienne Westwood on a bad day. In case you haven’t guessed, you broke my bloody heart when you sold that Citroen and I haven’t got over it yet. I do hope the Mercedes turns out to be a good car for you however, I’m not one to hold a grudge (much).

    • @simes205
      @simes205 4 місяці тому +1

      I agree and we had a CX2400 safari in 1982 and it was the best car my dad ever had. A friend had an estate w123 and I loved the roof rails and thought it was very cool!

    • @torresalex
      @torresalex 4 місяці тому +2

      I'd have to agree. My dad had 11 CXs (though some were for parts 😁), and most were Safaris (there was one Familiale) so I practically grew up in them. I dream of the day of owning my own

    • @Gerrie_G
      @Gerrie_G 4 місяці тому +3

      french cars are only best at breaking down

    • @simes205
      @simes205 4 місяці тому

      @@Gerrie_G nonsense.

    • @SeasideGarage
      @SeasideGarage  4 місяці тому +3

      Never tried a CX break yet ! But I agree... It's cooler looking... But I would never trust it as much as a Merc 123 or Volvo 245

  • @hedlund88
    @hedlund88 4 місяці тому +4

    Get a cassette Bluetooth adapter and keep the old stereo/radio , it fits the car

    • @SeasideGarage
      @SeasideGarage  4 місяці тому

      Sound quality is bad on those things imo

    • @_schwarzbunt
      @_schwarzbunt 4 місяці тому

      ​@@SeasideGarage As the icing on the cake after lovingliy outfitting a VW T4 with a custom Camper interior, we put in a period correct & working Blaupunkt Cassette Radio. And my daughter and I even recorded cassettes, including some "Mix-Tapes" with covers out of photographes from previous trips.
      The radio we got for free of off the internet, cleaned the internals that touch the tape with some alcohol and equipped it with some very easy to come by new rubber belts - one saturday afternoons work.
      Even some of my 30+ years old tapes sound pretty decent to my ear and their small "audiophile shortcomings" fit the whole exeperience of driving a car from the eighties or nineties, I feel.
      If you don't have cassettes in the attic nor the time to record some(as I asume), you could either hardwire a 12V bluetooth module into any old car stereo or even just a 3,5mm headphone jack or you could get an original 3,5mm adaptor that plugs into the back of many older Blaupunkt Radios. The Original number of the adaptor is: 7 607 897 093(to search for it).
      Or you get one of the chinese "reproductions" of the Blaupunkt stereos from the late eighties that look almost exactly the same as the originals and have bluetooth connection as well as USB, SD, and 3,5mm plugs underneath the flap that once covered the tape.
      Since the chinese bought the Blaupunkt name, it even bears the correct branding.
      Just search for "Blaupunkt Bremen" e.g. or whatever cities name you have in mind from your favorite radio.
      Porsche sells their own retro look modern radio that fits the design of the older cars and the "DIN slide in" and is equipped even with navigation I guess.
      Jonathan Ward fits his builds with invisible bluetooth units connected to equally invisible modern amplifiers, at most connected to the physical volume control dial of an otherwise functionless headunit.

    • @_schwarzbunt
      @_schwarzbunt 4 місяці тому

      I just discovered: There is even a Remake - Blaupunkt "Hamburg SQM 23" with the looks of the 1983 Original Blaupunkt "Hamburg" model - now equipped with bluetooth and a USB port under the "Cassette flap", while the "Bremen SQR 46" - remake has the design of the 1986 model and an additional 3,5mm Aux-In and an SD card reader. The Bremen is far lower priced than the original one at its time and the Hamburg remake is priced a bit underneath it.
      I would personally prefer an original one, but I do not have your scedule. When my daughter gets her T3 for her 18th birthday,...wonder what she is going to chose. I fear, she wants me to install an refurbished original one with new belts AND retrofitted with a bluetooth module.

  • @maxboonkittypoison
    @maxboonkittypoison 4 місяці тому +1

    I really enjoy seeing you have so much fun in your merc. Hope you wil not get bored with it because it wil newer let you down. My Mercedes Benz 207 Diesel from 1977 is also doing great! Starts always and newer let me down.
    And for a big van loaded with stuf it just zips on diesel.

  • @johnwaga3702
    @johnwaga3702 4 місяці тому +1

    A good friend of mine ran one of these 25 years ago and loved it. He always regretted selling it although rust was beginning to be a problem with it.

  • @kosir1234
    @kosir1234 4 місяці тому

    There is a saying in my country: Na nebu bog, na zemlji mercedes :D

  • @janataman9196
    @janataman9196 4 місяці тому

    The old Benz suits you pefect!

  • @dodgydruid
    @dodgydruid 4 місяці тому +1

    When I had my 280TE, I had setup an amp and a friend had given me an "earthquake" speaker made by Pioneer, big 1000w driver and hefty mids and tweets... so I hooks it all up and lots of earthy noise from the unit in the back area so daughter says to me to turn it up... so I did and it blew the rear side and rear tail glass out with my friend noticing before I had yanked it hard to max that the glass was rippling like a pool of water... Even today nearly 20 years on we find bits of the glass in the grass and beds as it flew quite a distance :P

  • @mattpipes5106
    @mattpipes5106 4 місяці тому

    I daily drive (and street park on the steep hills of San Francisco) my 1982 300td and they (Mine is named Gretchen) are a wonderful cars to live with! I hope you enjoy the whole big diesel wagon from the 80’s experience as much as I do!

  • @MrToxicSkittle
    @MrToxicSkittle 4 місяці тому

    I think it’s incredibly elegant and practical! And the roof rack is really cool… congratulations on your new car!

  • @Morecheeeeese
    @Morecheeeeese 4 місяці тому +3

    "This will become my daily...it's perfect for that "
    A few weeks later....
    Gone

    • @netzwerk-werkstatt332
      @netzwerk-werkstatt332 4 місяці тому +3

      I also think that's exactly how it will go. He prefers to screw cars instead of driving them ;-)

    • @SeasideGarage
      @SeasideGarage  4 місяці тому +2

      Haha won't promise anything !

    • @Morecheeeeese
      @Morecheeeeese 4 місяці тому

      ​@@SeasideGarageEither way it's always a good watch, keep on keeping on 👍 Any chance of something Italian or have they all rusted to dust over there?

    • @SeasideGarage
      @SeasideGarage  4 місяці тому +1

      @@Morecheeeeese got the a112 abarth... ;)

    • @Morecheeeeese
      @Morecheeeeese 4 місяці тому

      👊😎👍​@@SeasideGarage

  • @wayveyjayvey
    @wayveyjayvey 4 місяці тому +1

    I have the same colour 280TE. Wasn't my first choice of colour but it's rely grown on me especially when I see it others with it.

  • @TheQriz
    @TheQriz 4 місяці тому

    80's velour is so nice, ill choose that over leather any day!

  • @1873Winchester
    @1873Winchester 4 місяці тому

    That old stereo is imo the best part and listening to radio is also part of the charm. I have an old car and was very disappointed to find an ugly modern stereo in it. There are cassettes with aux cables or bluetooth so a phone can be connected to the old radio.

    • @SeasideGarage
      @SeasideGarage  4 місяці тому

      Well... It won't play well... So plans are to find something that is not to ugly looking but playing nice... And keep the original.

  • @jochenstacker7448
    @jochenstacker7448 4 місяці тому

    You must keep it forever!
    I had two, the four door sedan and I wish every day I still had a W123.
    Or maybe a W114/115, those are just mythical to me and I really, really, *really* want one!
    One simply must own a classic Merc. To not own a classic Merc is sadness every day.

  • @w123world
    @w123world 20 днів тому

    Great video!

  • @DieselLinus.
    @DieselLinus. 4 місяці тому

    Lovely car! I have three 300 TDT😁

  • @Hvitserk67
    @Hvitserk67 4 місяці тому +2

    The final drive ratio for the 300 TD and 300 TD Turbodiesel with automatic transmission is 3.46 and 3.07, respectively. The ratio for all gears is otherwise the same on both models. Both engines must have a relatively high rpm to deliver the maximum number of horsepower. 4400 and 4350 rpm respectively for the 300 TD and 300 TD Turbodiesel. At 100 km/h, the 300 TD Turbodiesel will have a speed of approx. 2600 rpm in fourth gear. Correspondingly, the 300 TD will have a speed of approx. 2900 rpm in fourth gear.

  • @fhwolthuis
    @fhwolthuis 4 місяці тому

    Beautiful car, it has the best interior for a Benz: Pullman ❤

  • @alanduncan9204
    @alanduncan9204 4 місяці тому

    Great car. I had a Non Turbo automatic and when I slammed the accelerator to the floor the kick down made it feel like a turbo it just took off and I never worried about overtaking anything on the road.

  • @marcellorava6149
    @marcellorava6149 4 місяці тому

    Nice winter car

  • @grayfool
    @grayfool 4 місяці тому

    I agree, one of the best cars ever made. Personally I would want the 280 petrol but that's just me.

  • @harryharker9564
    @harryharker9564 4 місяці тому

    Hi Seppo ,like you I also love the W123 the sound of the engine whether its the turbo or non turbo is so re-assuring and solid

  • @lesklower7281
    @lesklower7281 4 місяці тому

    I agree with you the beat station wagon ever made with that ultra reliable engine under the bonnet and when l retired l did research my 1997 Toyota Hilux and there are a lot if information out there on Google also about the engine in your very reliable Mercedes-Benz station wagon and all W123s the best Mercedes-Benzes ever made although they did rust but l am not sure how they failed in Australia although there is a W123 300TD parked near a local mechanical workshop in the area l live in Sydney next time l look at it l will check for rust issues

  • @Buffalobulltofta
    @Buffalobulltofta 4 місяці тому

    Very nice! S123 is the real deal, one of few cars i'd trade my redblock Volvos for. Also, it was Bruno Sacco and that you just HAVE TO KNOW as a w123 owner :) Congrats!

  • @jagmannracing4081
    @jagmannracing4081 4 місяці тому

    Tillykke, den er supercool!

  • @ferguscosgrave7510
    @ferguscosgrave7510 4 місяці тому

    That's nice love it

  • @neetpbg4
    @neetpbg4 4 місяці тому

    "🤣He took the easy route, looks pretty round"

  • @christianchristiansen99
    @christianchristiansen99 4 місяці тому

    If you’re gonna use it as a DD, that starter will drive you nuts. Since it clicks, it’s probably just a bad connection from the battery or a bad ground. Could also be the brushes inside the starter that are worn or stuck. Either way likely a relatively easy fix where you don’t need to buy a lot of parts.

    • @SeasideGarage
      @SeasideGarage  4 місяці тому +1

      Already fixed! Next video will be about that...

    • @christianchristiansen99
      @christianchristiansen99 4 місяці тому

      Great. I thought that might be an interesting topic for a SG video. I’ll be looking forward to that ;)
      Have a nice weekend! 👋

  • @TanyaBurns-x1u
    @TanyaBurns-x1u 4 місяці тому

    Love it

  • @DSperation
    @DSperation 4 місяці тому

    Love the W123, especially the estate. But you will have to remove those awful chrome wheelarch trims. There'll be rust underneath but that will look better.

  • @darrenwilson8042
    @darrenwilson8042 4 місяці тому

    Much better to have a better one than fight a losing battle with an already lost cause as you were with the white one.

  • @mbkomfort
    @mbkomfort 4 місяці тому

    When seeing he tranny oil pan it looked like the small type on an early model 😊 Transmission was early in production upgraded to a 722.4 type that is strong and really durable when maintained 😁

  • @lucasp3894
    @lucasp3894 4 місяці тому

    Your upper rad hose (big one at the top near the fan shroud) seems to be installed backwards. Mine was backwards as well when I bought my car, be careful with that because when installed backwards it rubs against the shroud and will wear hole in the hose !

  • @bborkzilla
    @bborkzilla 4 місяці тому

    I had a 300 TD for a while - even ran it on fry oil before that got to be too expensive for the hassle involved. What a brick!

  • @Philip.Magnusson
    @Philip.Magnusson 4 місяці тому

    The original rear diff for turbo diesel is 3.07 which are getting really difficult and expensive to find nowadays

  • @latitude9.5north54
    @latitude9.5north54 4 місяці тому +1

    "THERE IS A FLOORPAN!" Why? THERE IS NO SUNROOF!😁

  • @jochenstacker7448
    @jochenstacker7448 4 місяці тому

    9:25 I see someone has been watching Legit Street Cars. 😅

    • @SeasideGarage
      @SeasideGarage  4 місяці тому

      Haha actually I never seen that ?

    • @jochenstacker7448
      @jochenstacker7448 4 місяці тому

      @@SeasideGarage it's an American UA-cam channel. The vehicles are mostly V8 muscle cars, mercedes, BMW, some Japanese and a Delorean.
      Alex who runs the channel often makes that same "angelic" sound. 😁
      It's a great channel, very hands-on. He's been rebuilding a few gearboxes and it's fascinating.

  • @alansorbie4038
    @alansorbie4038 4 місяці тому

    I love these cars, looks a good example. I’m not sure why Mercedes used such low gearing. I had a 1990 W124 300E. At 75mph (125kmh) it did 3000rpm which seemed high. The Mercedes 6 cylinder was a very smooth engine so it wasn’t a problem but my 1990 Ford 4 speed automatic with a smaller 2 litre engine only did about 2600rpm at the same speed so I think the Mercedes could have coped with higher gearing

  • @arthurdardalis
    @arthurdardalis 4 місяці тому

    Love the 123, I had a 280E in the UK. Sold it for parts… why??? RUST!
    What amazes me is that the 123 is bulletproof, how the hell did Mercedes cock it up and the rust is such an issue on 123’s??
    It appears that the design of the body itself is the issue, for example the sill design ( in effect there is no outer sill that can be replaced separately), affects the floor if rust takes hold
    The turbo diesel should have a tachometer as standard, re the differential check VIN with a dealer then you can be sure. The auto gearbox is very durable, change the oil and filter and see how it goes from there

    • @SeasideGarage
      @SeasideGarage  4 місяці тому

      I've seen three original 300 turbos without tachometer now so I guess it was an option

  • @dodgydruid
    @dodgydruid 4 місяці тому

    Best door closing noise is in my opinion done best by the Triumph Dolomite and Triumph 2000/2500, beats Jags, Rolls Royce and everything else for that almost solid oaken door closing thunk with not one hint of a clang or bang.

  • @delukxy
    @delukxy 4 місяці тому

    I'm sure you have watched Kent at Mercedesscource. He has done the rear axle conversion to lower the revs. He also did some videos on clogged up pre chambers and I wonder if that has been your problem with the bad running engines, including the one under the bench.

  • @rimmersbryggeri
    @rimmersbryggeri 4 місяці тому

    Do the turbo and non turbo not have different cylinder heads? Not so different that it doesnt fit but different compresion ratios. I know they do that or change the stroke on petrol turbo engines. So using a NA head on a diesel may make it more peppy but also burn it out quicker. Hard to find the information on this but it seems bore and stroke are the same for NA/FI engines on this model .

    • @SeasideGarage
      @SeasideGarage  4 місяці тому

      not sure... could be different head gasket but have not done any research yet....

  • @eeclass20
    @eeclass20 4 місяці тому

    That velour upholstery cost as much as leather on the options list! The turbo 300D sadly was never sold in the UK, probably because of the difficulty of converting RHD vehicles. There are few South African imports coming to the UK at the moment(a RHD country)which were even better built than the German cars.

  • @jfv65
    @jfv65 4 місяці тому

    Very nice 123. Sadly in NL it is no longer attractive to use such an old diesel car. And you can't go into increasingly many city centres without getting a ticket. So for me the ideal version would be the 280TE.

    • @sietse9920
      @sietse9920 4 місяці тому

      Only after 2030 the diesels are banned from the city(centers)

    • @SeasideGarage
      @SeasideGarage  4 місяці тому

      In DK a diesel older then 35 years can go to the cities... Don't ask my why... :p

    • @sietse9920
      @sietse9920 4 місяці тому

      @@SeasideGarage in the NL from 2030 classic diesels are banned. Only in the citycenters though

  • @TheBTG88
    @TheBTG88 4 місяці тому

    The starter issue could be a bad solenoid.

  • @thomasspilcker8382
    @thomasspilcker8382 4 місяці тому

    Hvad er så farvekoden . De metal merkater , ved siden af motorklappens lås ? 3 - 4 ciffer og måske et bogstav .

  • @ristretti
    @ristretti 4 місяці тому

    The Volvo 245 is the estate.

  • @SillyMonkeys
    @SillyMonkeys 4 місяці тому +1

    this is an engine that was rebuilt by Mercedes. : )

    • @SeasideGarage
      @SeasideGarage  4 місяці тому

      Why? ? Or how do you know?

    • @SillyMonkeys
      @SillyMonkeys 4 місяці тому

      @@SeasideGarage hmm, i may be wrong, on a Mercedes rebuilt engine the cylinder cover has a ridge or a raised line around the edge , i thought yours did too, but it could be the light....

    • @SillyMonkeys
      @SillyMonkeys 4 місяці тому

      ua-cam.com/video/DLHO7sZCRaM/v-deo.html

    • @SillyMonkeys
      @SillyMonkeys 4 місяці тому

      you can see what i mean from this video.

    • @SeasideGarage
      @SeasideGarage  4 місяці тому

      @@SillyMonkeys interesting!

  • @iurybonamicifredducci3076
    @iurybonamicifredducci3076 4 місяці тому

    The W123 was designed by Bruno Sacco, Mercedes chief designer from 1975 to the late 1990s (but at Mercedes since 1968).

  • @dodgydruid
    @dodgydruid 4 місяці тому +2

    I had a duck egg 280TE, surprisingly pokey for an old Merc bus and parts for were quite cheap and it just kept going, I had at that time also an AMG190E and lost both when I divorced my third wife who within a month or two had written off both as the Cossie 190 she just couldn't handle as it was liquid power fast and she overcooked it right into a truck, the estate was more sedate but she never understood its big size and cocking up an overtake of a lorry, she allowed the rear compartment to clip the lorry which calmly ripped it clean off and driving her into a crash barrier. So karma was merciless...

    • @dodgydruid
      @dodgydruid 4 місяці тому

      Before the divorce, I remember her slating my driving, a chap who had done several roadcraft courses with the armed forces, this was in my cabriolet XR3i so I took her for a nightmare drive round the leafy Dorset lanes not dropping below sixty and power sliding on tight corners, she never criticised my driving again although I do still offer naysayers a ride in my Reliant MK2 Robin van doing the same lanes at top speeds scaring the bejasus out of 'em with no powerslides, Reliant's aren't built like an XR3i so you have to come up braking, ride the corner like a lamb and roar out like a lion all in a vehicle 2/3rds the size of a Mini hehehe

    • @sietse9920
      @sietse9920 4 місяці тому

      Sounds like a good decision, the divorce….

  • @20nobody20
    @20nobody20 4 місяці тому

    Jeg er vokset op på bagsædet af en w123 300D og min far køre stadigvæk w123 den dag idag, dog en 280E
    Har aldrig prøvet en 300D turbo men har dog fået af vide at de er uden samlingen.. de skulle virkelig trække godt👌

  • @lxaegg
    @lxaegg 4 місяці тому

    Hoanestly i dont know about driving it in the winter.
    Salt is so horrible thing for old cars.
    You should at least put mike sanders wax or something simular all over the underside of it. And make sure that all drains are still open afterwards.

  • @mikkarin1
    @mikkarin1 4 місяці тому

    JEG SAVNER DEN ALLEREDE SEPPO 😂

    • @SeasideGarage
      @SeasideGarage  4 місяці тому

      Forstår jeg godt ! Du må låne ! :p

  • @kennethjrgensen2087
    @kennethjrgensen2087 4 місяці тому

    Husk nu at beholde en bil der kan køre til OUH😂

    • @SeasideGarage
      @SeasideGarage  4 місяці тому

      Det kan den her ! Veteran biler må køre i miljøzoner... Aner ikke hvorfor...

  • @magomat6756
    @magomat6756 4 місяці тому +2

    These car where build buy the engineers and now these days it are the financial guys and the cars are crap.

  • @mcdk72
    @mcdk72 4 місяці тому

    Kompressionen skal typisk sænkes ifm. En turbo.