How DEFTONES Changed Music Forever (they're not just nu-metal)
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How DEFTONES Changed Music Forever! I talk about the entire history of Deftones including: Chino Moreno, their early years and iconic albums like "Around The Fur" & "White Pony," how they transcended nu-metal and brought shoegaze into metal; the death of Chi Cheng; and their influence on newer bands like Spiritbox, Loathe and Sleep Token.
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0:00 Intro
1:08 Early years of Deftones & "Adrenaline"
3:07 "Around The Fur" & "White Pony"
5:33 Self-Titled & "Saturday Night Wrist"
9:02 "Eros," Chi Cheng’s Accident, "Diamond Eyes"
11:06 "Koi No Yokan," "Gore," "Ohms"
13:38 Deftones' legacy & influence - Розваги
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I needed this video. Im like the biggest deftones fan ever.
@@insignia9028 that’s impossible, because I am.
Why not do an expose on Incubus who have evolved and who changed their sound a lot more than Deftones have. Incubus are not everyone's cup of tea but have massive albums and are there any bands who really sound like them? Do Incubus have a specific sound seeing as they have changed so much through all there albums also they good friends of Deftones.
Your takes are some of the worst on the internet regarding music. You casually dismiss awesome bands while fawing over pop-punk. It's detestable.
wooow, so Mr. "Ill never do a 'deftones' video" has done a deftones video! thanks man!
One of the craziest things I've ever seen at a show was Chino noticing a guy in the front row just not feeling the Deftones performance. He asked the guy what he'd rather hear and the guy said Morbid Angel. The band laughed and broke into a f*cking Morbid Angel song just for him! Hahahaha. What?! Who does that?! Deftones won over the entire venue immediately!
That’s insane, so bad ass they just wiped that out !!
hahaha what year did it happen?!
Need footage of this please
Yeah I'd love to see that
That’s dope
Deftones are one of the only nu-metal acts that the elitist metalheads not only respect, but will actively listen to. That definitely says something.
Deftones are one of the few bands from middle school that I will still listen. Great band.
In the mid 2 late 90s u could say the same thing about Tool.
If you haven't seen it, Chino covered behind the wheel by Depeche mode with the Dillinger Escape Plan live.
well who gives a fuck about elitist opinions besides themselves anyway
@@joesantos2455 at my high school, Deftones and Tool were by far the two most popular bands in the 90’s and early 2000’s, I graduated in 2001….I remember Aenema and Around the Fur being released in ‘96 and ‘97….. and as far as everyone I knew was concerned, At that point, those two bands could do no wrong
Deftones are special to me, I'm a music whore Deftones touched my soul in so many ways, I was bullied so badly in middle school being black in a majority black school because I listen to them, folks didn't understand but till this day I'm finding songs from them that I never heard.
xxxtentacion probs felt the same way, he was a fan of metal and definitely incorporated it into his music. I get that black people aren't commonly metal fans, but don't let that put you in a restriction of music taste. Be who you want.
You know how many white boys listen to only rap. It’s sad who cares if your black pink or purple Deftones are the most unique band ever and anyone who doesn’t like them is just missing out
Check out "Teething" "Boys Republic" if you've never heard them. Also "Lovers" is my absolute favorite b side by them ever!!!
I remember running into the only black dude in high school back in the day ane he loved Killswitch and other metal like stuff. He got bullied but man he was the coolest! Anywho, keep on keepin on
racist
Around the Fur is still probably my all time favorite album release. So catchy, never loses its ‘cool’ factor, never felt dated even almost 26 years onward from its release. Album just RIPS. So melodic and hypnotic, catchy, heavy/angry af and just so solid.
boc pfp, we love to see it
I still listen to it regularly. Its nostalgic af.
For me Around the fur and White Pony are on par
Around the fur was one of the best but honestly diamond eyes was great too and kind of went back to their roots. Saturday Night Wrist was the one I never cared for.
The thing I like about Finn is that he may not be a fan of a band, but still he can appreciate their impact and positive sides 🙏
Exactly!! That’s why I enjoy his content so much and he inspires me to express my appreciation for the influence of bands and genres I don’t even like ^^
Unfortunately, not really. Especially if you watch his 2nd channel
@ghost mall Agreed
Finn really surprised me on this one! Thought he was waiting until the end to shit a little on them, but he remained respectful from start to finish. I love it! ❤
Love the Deftones, “My own summer” on my daily play list💯💯
Deftones isn't just a band. It's a whole vibe.
💯💯💯💯💯💯
Almost a genre in itself now.
Well said 💯
It's a whole bop, fam, no caps 🔥
sigma male vibes
I'm in the camp of Deftones doesn't have a bad album. I love that they do something new all the time and can't be pigeonholed into one box. And I love that they do what they want and don't let the pressure to do what's popular get to them. They have their own space in the music world and nobody else can take that space. Both Gore and 0hms were fantastic albums imo. I think they showed awesome progression while also feeling nostalgic in places. I'll never forget what this band means to me.
Never understood the gore hate. Acid hologram and Rubicon come to mind as fantastic tracks as well as some others. I don't find the production to be bad as well.
Saturday Night Wrist is the album that I never got into. Gore is good and I love Ohms.
I don’t think gore really gets hated on, because saying something is the worst Deftones album isn’t saying it’s a bad album, It’s just because they have so many albums that are so good front to back that they had such a high standard for themselves that anything below that people are going to complain about, which is a good trait for a band to have
They don’t have a bad album they might have a couple skippable tracks but only a handful in their whole discography in my opinion
You are absolutely right
“We’ve never just been a metal band, we’ve never just been an alternative band, we’ve always just been us. We feel comfortable in never having to choose.”
Chino Moreno, 2020 ( Deftones/Team Sleep/PALMS/Saudade/†††Crosses)
literally what every band says
Koi No Yokan is a masterpiece. I believe it’s their best album. It has every sound defying aspect of the band in spades. Beautiful, moody and aggressive riffs combined with Chino’s beautiful harmonies makes it an A+ in my book. Such an amazing record.
Deffo in my top 3
it is a masterpiece on par with be quiet and white pony for sure, might not be the best but its tied.
KNY is their masterpiece
YES!!! Exactly, I've been saying this for years. It's honestly even better than white pony, usually regarded as their best but in my opinion Koi is PERFECT beginning to end.
Amen
Despite the struggles the band had at the time, Cherry Waves is an absolute masterpiece, a contender for best song imo
Unpopular opinion but. Saturday is one of my three favorite albums. Beware, Cherry Waves, and Riviere are flawless.
Kimdracula is my second favourite after Cherry Waves off Saturday Night Wrist
Beware is a dope song. And the break down at the end always almost snaps my neck.
The whole album is my third favorite behind ATF and White Pony. I thought Saturday Night Wrist is their most divisive album and Gore is the one most agree on being their weakest, i personally do for sure.
When you know, what a terrible time that was for deftones, at this album came out.
It's crazy how good that record ist.
Deftones has never done bad stuff in their career.
What a Band.
I love Saturday Night Wrist, such an underrated album.
Dude same I love that album and will always have a special place in my heart.
Such a masterpiece, truly a gem one of my all time favorite albums
Agree. Was the first of their albums I properly listened to and I have to say it's awesome precisely for it's variety. I seem to have a knack for favouriting artists least popular/ most divisive albums. Like The Cure, my favourite album of theirs is The Top which is sooo sonically scattered. But I love that!! I want things to be switched up a bit. Cannot stand hearing the same thing over and over anyway. I think it shows there's experimentation happening and like a genuine confidence in switching things up.
my favourite album ever. ill always love it so much
Deftones is one of my favorite bands of all time. what I love most about them is how dynamic their music is. they can be really heavy, really chill, and usually both at the same time. Stephen’s guitar tone is damn near perfect - incredibly lush with the right amount of crunch for the groovy riffs and the clarity for those big spacey chords. Abe’s hard hitting drums, Chi’s smooth bass lines, and of course Chino’s incredibly unique melodies and vocal delivery. The music is just the perfect combination of light and dark. heavy, emotional - literally gives me chills.
My teenage years were spent completely immersed in Deftones. I even got a Deftones tattoo on my wrist as soon as I turned 18. I went to every single show when they came to Dallas and also supported Chino’s side project. I remember once when they were playing at a smaller venue here, I pushed my way to the front and was able to experience Chino’s amazing voice a mere 4 feet away. I was completely captivated. I haven’t had a band or artist captivate me like that since
I can kinda get why some people absolutely can't stand it, but I genuinely think they're one of the best and most original band in metal music.
I don't even consider them metal even at their heaviest
Metal? Not really. Alternative/Hard rock more like it.
@@leadme2thebliss21lmao Hexagram/ needles n pins? As hard rock? Nvr heard a hard rock band scream so hard, Thats a good one
@@papichulo8749 laughs in korea and elite 🤔
@@commodore6430 So why are you giving your opinion about a band you literally know absolutely nothing about?
Deftones are "Alternative Metal". They are absolutely definitely Metal. Do you consider TOOL metal? Deftones are heavier than TOOL every day of the week.
Radiohead is Alternative Rock. Soundgarden is Alternative Rock. Deftones aren't even close to those bands in style. They are Metal.
Alternative Metal.
As someone who listens to weird, unique and experimental music, Deftones is the only band that in a way gave me kinda ethereal vibes and that high and ascension you get when you listen to certain music
Digital Bath, Change, Sextape, Diamond Eyes, Rocket Skates, Risk, Rosemary, Be Quiet and Drive (Far Away), Hole In The Earth, Beware, Cherry Waves, Xerces, Rivière just to name a few are some of my favs. Honestly IMO Saturday Night Wrist as a whole is a great album i can't get enough of. But all of their albums are amazing
I really enjoy these retrospective type videos. As someone who doesn't really devote a lot of time to browsing new music, your comparisons to other bands in these videos almost always leads me to check out a newer band I never would have. Most times I end up really enjoying them, thanks for all your work putting these videos together, it helps us old millennials to not turn into crusty "get off my music lawn you dang kids" types.
Thank you for watching!
@@ThePunkRockMBA finn, only you can get us casual metal/rock fans deeper into more cool shit! 🤙🏽 Seriously! I've been jamming Marauder, and Turmoil and other bands like that cus of your channel
As a lifelong Deftones fan was impressed to hear him compare Sleep Token, Spiritbox, Loathe and also The Weeknd who have all ended up as my most played artists for the last few years. Makes total sense.
please don't call millenials old....it makes my gen x ass feel ancient....
@@croulantroulant3082 lmao well I'll hit 40 in a few months, Gramps. At least you guys are kind of the "fly under the radar" group in the generation wars. Although to teens I assume we're all boomers anyways.
Massive respect to Deftones for still going strong for as long as they have.
Massive disrespect to deftones for still going
Ever since their self-titled album, they've started to have an increasingly mystical and esoteric vibe to their music. You can hear traces of it in the White Pony. You can Reeeeeealy hear it in Ohms.
I have listened to DEFTONES every single day of my life since 1996 and every song still gets me!!🤯
Yes!! 🙌
You’ve been listening to the tones for as long as I’ve been alive 🤯
shit. i've seen them live twice and I don't do that. If you've literally done that, regardless of how good they are, I'd be bored assless of them lol.
White Pony is definitely the best sexy time album of all time. It has the perfect blend of sensual softness with raw aggression that flows well into each other. Highly recommended sexy time music.
Exactly. I was shocked when Fynn once said Deftones is for Incels. In Fact for me it is the complete opposite.
Deftones is great sex music
id say around the fur is what you described, but u cant go wrong with white pony
@@eriond3701 also agree on this. It's the better album but white pony is right behind it
@@rocketPower047 around the fur is one of the albums i consider perfect tbh, not one unskippable track
The thing I love about the Deftones is they are mood music. You can listen to songs like Digital Bath and be thrown into this melancholy haze or When Girls Telephone Boys (imo the heaviest song they have ever wrote) and just have your face ripped right off. This is a great retrospective Finn, I know your not a fan boi but props for giving them the respect.
Poltergeist is a heavier mood to me, WGTB is cold though!
you're so right!
The only band whose music slaps the same way it did for me in 8th grade.
Absolutely timeless.
i’ve seen this band perform live about 8 times live (since middle school! i’m 38 now!) and they are amazing. plus just the NICEST guys on the planet. when i met them for the first time after a show in phoenix, chino thanked my mom for staying up late to drive us to and home from the show!
39 here and seen them 8 shows...in san antonio, tx we were moshing and one person fell and everyone crumbled on one another ...chino and stopped the show and said we all here for one another! Thought was gonna die and everyone helped each other! Amazing!!
That’s awesome. I’m 37. Been a huge fan since they dropped WP. They are a magical band.
It's pretty unique how popular the Deftones are yet, still feel to be underground in a way. MTV and Mainstream Radio never really accepted them and I like it that way. Amazing Live🔴
Seen them in Indianapolis over the summer. His voice isn't quite what it used to be but it was a very good show anyway.
Best live shows I’ve ever been to
To be fair, Deftones did get airplay on mainstream pop stations roughly from Around the Fur to self-titled
Not only did Back to School get played on MTV, they were featured guests on TRL (the lamest show on MTV at the time) as a result of its popularity. They even re-released their best album within months of its original release with a new opening track (Back To School) so they can sell more records. If that isn't selling out.
Kris Frederick
It’s Mind blowing. They are literally one of the most accessible metal bands without forcing it
As someone who has been there from 'Adrenaline'(I live 45 minutes North of Sacramento), it's amazing to see how huge they've become. I remember seeing them in tiny clubs throughout Sac(Cattle Club!!!) and the crowds would just go out of their minds. Now they're one of the most popular Metal bands out there. It's so great to see. Nothing but respect.
I saw them at the Cattle Club, too! Still have the flyer...they played with Far. Good times.
@@lauragallegos7488 Nice! Saw a lot of great shows at the Cattle Club. Loved that little place.
Even as far back as 2008, they played some secret club shows all the time. They’ve always had that intimate feel to their shows and overall vibe.
@@briandel519 Nice! It's probably been around 10 years or more since I saw them last...Need to remedy that ASAP.
Howdy neighbor!
I saw Deftones in concert with Gojira in May of last year. I've liked Deftones forever, but I was admittedly scared that the concert was going to be boring, and I was honestly more excited to see Gojira for the second time. I was SO wrong. They played SO many of their heavier songs, had a good mix of the "hits," and they were so interactive with the audience. I seriously could not have been happier that I made the decision to see them, because it was legitimately a life-changing concert for me. I have so much respect for this band.
I was at that concert in LA ! Such a great show, first time seeing Gojira and I was blown away. It’s hard to decide who had a better set that night. Deftones definitely did not disappoint
Describing the live experience of Deftones as life changing is very accurate.
I will never forget seeing them with Thrice & Pelican on the Taste Of Chaos somewhere around ‘07 at the San Jose Events Center…
Their set was untouchable & I’ve never witnessed that again!
Likewise! My wife and I attended the Cincy show. We paid $500 to get up front and I would have paid double. I still glow a little thinking about that show!
@@bryantc1641 I went to the la show too I wasn’t expecting them to play very good and was expecting chinos vocals to be bad but I was very wrong they were very good for not playing for a year or two.
I missed that show because of drug abuse 😢 I’ll always regret that
Good to hear Chino feels “Around the Fur” is his fav Deftones album.. I love it too, “My Own Summer” remains to this day as my fav song by this phenomenal band.
Deftones is my favourite band. I like how their music changes through times. I started listening to them then I was a teenager and I liked their first albums. And now as I grew up I really enjoy their last albums.
Deftones is always what I say when people ask what my favorite band is. Even if I’m super hyped on something else at the given moment, they’re the band that encompasses everything I love about music.
Love them but everything sounds the same after their self-titled album Deftones.
And not in that good "true to form" consistent way but still with a little expressive variation like we've seen in the past. It's like one continuous single album. Sounds uninspired, like they're just going through the motions, popping them out on routine, "oh, there's another one!". Like it's a chore and you've just got to get through it so that you can do something more stimulating like sitting down.
@@undefinedvariable8085 Bullshit.
Ohms is pretty damn good. The most underrated album in my opinion is Koi No Yokan, every song is amazing. I feel like people will appreciate Gore way more in like 10-15 years although it is my personal least favorite.
@@undefinedvariable8085 that's not really true at all if you sat down and actually listened to EVERY single song off Saturday Night Wrist, Diamond Eyes, Koi No Yokan, Gore and Ohms- there's a lot of ideas and things they never tried on the first 4 albums. Yes there's songs that sound similar to each other and similar to the first 4, but they did try different sonic ideas, songwriting, and experimented with different styles overall. It doesn't seem like you've really listened to every single one of the albums 5-9, maybe you have and you're entitled to your opinion, I just highly disagree.
A band that you have said in the past that you don’t like and wouldn’t cover on your channel, but I appreciate that you’re appreciation for a band/artist’s contribution to the overarching world of music is highly valued and respected. Great work.
I cant understand why he made video about band he dont like and doesnt care about. It seems insincere for me. I dont need him to like them to watch his videos imo
It was me looking for that exact video where he said he doesn’t like deftones and system. It just shows you growth imo lol
I had an experience a number of years ago that included getting a chance to meet and hang out with the band for a few hours after a show in Portland. They have been my favorite band since I was a kid and I was honestly a little anxious, don’t meet your heroes and all that.
Turned out to be one of the most incredible nights I’ve ever had. They were super groovy, laid back and humble. I took the opportunity to fan boy a little and when I thanked Stephen I started it with something like, “I know you probably hear this all the time, but…” and he responded by saying, “you know, I do hear that stuff pretty often but it never means any less.” It was so classy and really felt honest.
I must DEMAND another track featuring Maynard. His voice compliments their style so well.
Passenger is one of my favourite deftones tracks, Maynard was a good choice for vocals
@@LP-ix9pj maynard has such a distinctive voice and impressive range, it sounds so damn good with Chino’s voice singing the verses in his airy and eery freestyle vocal patterns. I can’t disagree that it’s just simply the best 🥰
Fuck. Yes.
As a Deftones fanatic I want to thank you very much for making this video. You've expressed in the past that you've never been too impressed by their music or fan base so I totally was not expecting this. Also just wanted to add as far as influences there are multiple artists who have taken their name from Deftones songs, such as Knife Party and Kim Dracula.
looking back I actually think deftones was what lead me to love "real" screamo and raw emotion in music in general, if it wasnt for chinos insane visceral screams on their self titled idk if I would have ever loved that way of screaming the same
same
Same. Chino was featured on a white chapel song and his scream were just 👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼
I've seen deftones many times as I hung out in sacramento a lot. At a machine head show in San Francisco Deftones we're opening and my friend and I were hanging out listening to one of the openers and we just happened to bump into Chi. We talked to him for about 10 minutes before he had to go get ready to play. He was the most down to earth and friendly guy. It broke my heart when he died. I will always remember that concert and him just being another fan.
Chino damn near shoved the mic all the way into my gullet for the last line of Lotion in pdx one night. 😏
The energy they had live, especially those first two albums, had to be experienced to be believed. Amazing 👏
When my daughter was born, I was gifted one of those booger suckers, and I was like "hey that's the thing from Deftones first album!"
Love The Deftones. Saw them in 95 opening for the Bad Brains and they definitely made an impression. I've never seen a group of people before who just literally just wanted to explode out of their skins on stage. It can't be overstated that HR from The Bad Brains is Chino's favorite singer and definitely influenced his vocal approach.
I love Bad Brains and Deftones. That would have been such a gig to see. Of course i was 3 at the time 😄
@@laurisaarinen1126 Lol. Yeah, I had never heard of them before but the Deftones stole the show. A feat in itself considering this was the original Bad Brains lineup. Unfortunately, that was the start of HR's mental breakdown period and he wasn't keen on being the frontman that night.
@@redghettosun Yeah, it's really sad what happened to him. I don't actually remember ever hearing the backstory behind his breakdown though.
@@laurisaarinen1126 Nobody really knows for sure but I've read he suffers from a neurological disorder that gives him bad headaches. Schizophrenia as well. Sort of explains why he's gone through periods of homelessness.
Saw Loathe in concert last week, great atmosphere! Their sound is quite similar to Deftones and stage performance is pretty good!
This^^ I hear so much Deftones in Loathe, huge fan of their work
I Let It In And It Took Everything is one of my favorite albums period
Deftones will forever have a special place in my heart no matter what. My 7 year old little boy absolutely loves them just as I did when I was a kid. He wants to go see them in concert so bad but he’s just so little but next tour I might have to crack. It would be the highlight of his life.
Do it! When my eldest was finally old enough to see a show, I was so happy when he said he wanted to see Deftones. It was an amazing bonding experience to get to share that 1st concert with him
For all the fans who have watched this video. Take a few minutes for Che and listen to Risk from Diamond Eyes. You can really feel the grief, stress and anxiety, not only Chino though his vocals but the whole band through the music.
That recording of Minerva in Brazil from a few years back, where Chino is literally crying while singing. Tingles my spine man.
When Adrenaline was released, it was instantly my favorite record. Nearly 30 years later, it still is one of my favorites
Same! The crazy thing is I only figured out what the cover was about a year ago when I bought one for my kid.
It so fucking raw and imo that's what makes it so great.
@@JONACYDETV what's the cover mean .....???
Deftones haven't made a single bad album, period. I hope they release EROS in memory of Chi. The thing I love the most about them is that they have been able to evolve and thrive at it. By far my favorite band, ever!
Thank you for playing that Deafheaven clip! I had never heard of them until this vid, and now they're one of my new favorite bands!!
White Pony is such a game changer! Very ahead of its time and has nothing but memorable songs. I’d say it’s easily their peak musically and it’s one of the greatest metal albums out there!
Yeah but I absolutely hate “back to school”, “elite” and the overrated “change”
No it wasn't they copied tool like every other band they even said it they seen took and it changed their lives
@ghost mall Check out Koi No Yokan. It's such an atmospheric and beautiful, moody album that puts me in this nostalgic bittersweet trance every time I listen to it. If you aren't into the heavier stuff, that's the album I recommend checking out.
It's far from a "metal album" though. That's almost as bad as calling Linkin Park metal 🤣F*ck genres though, it's all about the music.
@@leadme2thebliss21 right might as well call them shoe gaze or rap all the same
As much as I love Deftones, I have to brace for impact when I see their name on your channel lol
edit- muuuch more positive than I was expecting. gg, Mr. Male Standard.
Exactly. Finn craps on them every time. I can’t trust this title.
I know he doesn’t care for Deftones but I think most of his criticism is more about Deftones fans.
I know you are not the biggest deftones fan, but I love how fair you treat every band in this channel, trying to learn the best lessons. Love your content, keep it up
It took me years to get into them but ever since I’ve just loved their sound. I can’t explain it but their music just makes you feel so many things. One of my favorite bands of all time.
Finn had to acknowledge Deftones hahaha. Bout time.
Deftones is a great launch pad for metalheads to check out other kinds of music. I remember listening to Depeche Mode, The Smiths, and Cocteau Twins from Deftones. I think Dia de Los Deftones is important too.
Can't forget The Cure
Nothing compares to Deftones. They created there own space of sound like Tool did also. Fav nu metal band of all time 💜
Dude, you’re the reason I’ve been introduced to new music over the last few years. The way you compare older bands like these guys to new people I wouldn’t know about, you’ve introduced me to new material and I’m forever grateful for that! Thanks bro!
You swore youd never make a deftones video on multiple occasions!
Thank you for this pleasant surprise!
My dad accidentally got me around the fur as a kid and that was my introduction to heavy music. My mind was blown and it was the first time music made me wanna punch a hole in the wall. Still to this day one of my favorite albums. Finally got the chance to see them a few weeks ago for the first time and it didn’t disappoint.
The self titled Deftones album is so underrated. It’s a great album and I don’t understand why it’s considered mediocre.
It’s my least favorite album, but I can’t deny it has some bangers on it
Honestly, I think it's just that it has to be compared to the other Deftones albums. Self-titled is great but it's usually being compared to a collection of great to amazing albums, and for many it falls more towards great than amazing. For me, it's one of my personal favorites, Minerva and Hexagram I go back to constantly.
YESS
Dude nailed it with the Loathe mention. They sound like if Deftones got heavier after the self titled. But still unique in their own way. Saw them open for Glassjaw in the UK earlier this year and absolutely killed it live.
They're my favorite band for a reason. Found them when I was maybe 13 (almost 20 years ago sheesh) and have never looked back. I'm so grateful to the band, especially Chino, because they made me realize it was okay to like whatever you want, even if some people say certain things shouldn't go together. I truly believe that if it weren't for this band, I wouldn't have anywhere near the open mind for music that I do. Not to mention they've gotten me through many good and bad times as well. In my opinion they are the greatest, and most influential "rock" band of the 90s and onward. There is no one else quite like them. But I also love seeing how they influence younger musicians. Almost anytime I hear an artist mention that they love Deftones, I know there's a greater chance they actually have some real talent. They're criminally underrated and underappreciated, but I've always loved that they've been able to find success and cultivate an extremely diverse, dedicated fan base while actually shunning the mainstream. Some people say they're pretentious and that they think of themselves as better than other bands who play similar genres. Incorrect, they're just supremely in their own lane. Thanks for making this video Punk Rock MBA. They deserve more appreciation and recognition. And you actually seem to have a good amount of understanding and appreciation for them yourself and that's awesome. I'll sometimes see other "critics" talk about the Deftones, for example fantano, but they often miss the mark. Excellent job.
And they are nice guys too! I was fortunate to go to their Hexagram video shoot because I was friends with the director (and fortunate to see them before we lost Che). I can tell that it was very impressive seeing how much freakin’ energy they had to pour into that video. Many repeats were needed, and they were ALL sweating their tail ends off! I thought Chino specifically was going to have a heart attack due to how overweight he’s become on top of all that exertion.
VERY proud of ya lad! Making this video with a straight face must've been difficult. Ya did good! *Flutters away humming horni-metal choruses*
Have loved them since 96. Love each album, and am happy that they have maintained their "underground" popularity. Everyone loves them, but at the same time, no one knows who they are.
I actually really like Saturday Night Wrist.
i disagree, nowadays they are so popular some die hard fans are gate keeping them from newer generations
Great video as always. When I first heard Ohms I thought they finally achieved the sound they've always been working toward by distilling down their different styles and influences. I randomly ran into Abe Cunningham at a bar here in Sacramento almost a year ago and he was super cool. He kept mentioning he had to go home and take care of his puppy. I saw them in SF on the Ohms tour this past April and they killed it.
As a lifelong Deftones fan, I approve this video
If you heard what finn thinks about deftones i dont think you would :D
@@teme9132 he never said they are bad. Just Olive Garden music 😂
yeah, I heard that as well from time to time. he’s certainly is not very impressed by their music, generally speaking lol. though he really makes it clear every time that he acknowledges their undeniable influence and musicianship. also the band’s fan base freaks him out as fuck loool.
well, i guess the fact that he doesn’t seem to care much about the music is solely subject of personal taste. at least we see from this video that his opinion is based on actual knowledge of the discography rather than some blind hatred based on 1 song that he heard years ago, disliked for some reason and couldn’t let go - like it often happens with the most haters.
i can appreciate factual accuracy and overall respectful tone of this video after all as a long-term Deftones fan. but yeah, seriously didn’t expect to see any video dedicated to the band’s biography from Finn in particular to be honest lol. kinda cool that he made it
Honestly Deftones and Smashing Pumpkins were my first introduction to shoegaze as a kid
That clip of Chino singing live with the pumpkins is one of the best things on the internet. "Now here's a young man I've had my eye on"
Same. It was both bands who introduced me to MBV and then I went down the rabbit hole after that.
Deftones were heavily influenced by Hum
@@AfrooChe she's out back counting stars
@@tylerbrunton7696 Ditto. Hearing 1979 and Be Quiet and Drive in the same year changed my life
Crazy that no one took initiative during the SNW writing and recording, and it’s still an amazing album. Rivière🖤
Phenomenal band. One of the few bands I consider myself very lucky saying I've seen them play live but yet sad that I've only seen them once.
My first two CDs I owned were FiIter Short Bus and NIN Downward Spiral. Those two albums got me to the edge of metal fandom, but the Crow City of Angels Soundtrack was the album that sent me over it. Jurassitol, Sean Olson, and Teething were all bangers.
So glad you mentioned that soundtrack Finn.
So, you finally relented and talked about Deftones. Nice. They've always been the band that really put what it means to be "alternative metal" into perspective, and that's always been what I see as the best thing about them. Like if Korn drove a rift in metal with their experimentation in the 90's, Deftones basically picked up the ball and ran with it. Abe Cunningham is also one of my favorite drummers of all time, that big fill he does towards the end of "Change" (you know which one) is a nuff said moment for that.
I remember listening to lots of hardcore/metalcore late 90's and all the kids loved the Deftones. We had their cd's as well. Then, reading that Deftones were listening to Zao's Where Blood and Fire Brings Rest made us happy, as that's one of my favorite metalcore album. Great video Finn!
Excellent video. Very happy I found your channel a couple years ago. Solid content my friend.
Awesome video! My first concert was the Summer Sanitarium tour in 2003 when they toured with Metallica. We showed up late and walked into the stadium while they were playing Minerva. I'll never forget that. I became a huge fan later on, but they were literally the first band I heard live when I was 14 years old. :)
The Tones are still up there for me, even after 25+ years.
Nice vid! I’ve been a Deftones fan since the beginning. Therefore I have followed them on their musical journey. I love how every album of theirs is unique in its own way.
Lowkey never thought you’d make a Deftones video, but I’m super glad you did❤
Another great aspect of Chino specifically was how vocal he was about encouraging metal heads to listen to other genres. I read an interview in Circus back in the early 2000s where he gushed about Christina Aguilera.
Also you can probably do a whole video on his various side projects and guest vocal spots.
The friend who got me into metal is a huge fan of the Deftones, but I haven't listened to them beyond the song they did with Maynard. I'll check them out after this video. Thanks for the content!
When I had the opportunity to take my eldest to his 1st concert, I was so happy when he said he wanted to see Deftones. It was an awesome moment where I got to bond with my son over a shared love of the same music
I didn't think you'd ever do it Finn!!! Great video overall. Regardless of one likes their music or not, their influence can't be denied and in my opinion the more recent music and albums hold up and are still pretty damn good. They are in their 50s after all. I started listening to them after hearing "Teething" on the Crow city of angels soundtrack. I bought Around the Fur the day it came out and every album since just the same. Adrenaline is not the heaviest album by any means in my mind but yeah, good video buddy!
When Finn talks Deftones…
we watch 👁️🫦👁️
Deftones are the GOAT! I seen them live twice in the 2000's! My favorite Albums from them are Around the Fur, White Pony and Diamond Eyes.
It's great that they are still around making music.
loved this video so much, deftones are such an amazing band! i grew up listening to them/ still love em + they definitely helped open my ears up to more experimental shades of metal for sure
I've only been able to see them live a couple of times, but the memory of them opening a set at Ozzfest with Headup is still etched into my brain over 20 years later. Just an amazing band.
Nice to see a video like this even though you are not a huge Deftones fan. Wanted to add a few things like their first demo album "Like Linus" featured a lot of ska & punk influences (you can find 91 -92 shows) , also Linkin Park was heavily influenced by them as they were geeking out as i remember from their every early interviews. Also, after White Pony they were probably most respected metal band in their genre for a while. Even the visual stylistic change of album rollout was ahead of its time with lots of sci fi, electronical & fashion influences. Also the band put a lot of empheses on more tender & surreal emotions, this is why so many young people still resonate with their music: its has modern fantasy sentiments of youth. P.S. Abe Cunningham is a beast, my favorite drummer and i am a Tool fan. He is one of the main reasons why band is still exciting today.
My favorite band of all time! Every album has its own aura to it, proving their versatility and endless creativity in both chaotic and calm environments.
Finn one of your best videos ever. I had friends bands play with Deftones before they made it. Deftones has a vibe that has a moments that are stronger as time goes by.
Excellent video, I don’t know if you forgot to mention the B-Sides and rarities album, it’s actually one of my favorite albums of theirs, it’s a bunch of B-Sides and covers and alternate versions of a few hits, there’s an excellent cover of “no ordinary love“ by Sade
been listening to deftones since 02, I was like 9 years old, been loving each album ever since, I consider them as one of the most consistent bands out there, not in terms of sound but in quality, hope they come to my country soon, wanna see them again
Around the Fur will always be my favorite. That album is raw from start to secret song finish.
pragmatic and super on point!! Been wanting to do a deep dive on DefTones = this is a perfect guide rail through their epic body of work :)
Great discussion, thanks for this in-depth look into a multi-faceted band and their organic effect on the genre. Extra props for the Blackgaze reference🤘🏻💀🤘🏻
You didnt refer to the band as The Deft-Ones, once. That’s growth! 😂 🙌🏾
*_Deftones mega hater makes complimentary Deftones video._*
Thanks for the great video, Finn! Over the last few weeks, i've been on (yet another) Deftones kick...listening to everything, re-buying CDs I can't find (storage, lost, etc).. good shit. What a great career and catalogue!
Fun fact - there was this band called "far" in the 90s and the lead singer helped with and wrote most of be quiet and drive with Chino. He toured with hopesfall and coheed and cambria in 2000 or 2001 . He played acoustic and had an r2d2 shaped drum machine. He was such an awesome dude. They still produce music together sometimes
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You did it fin !! You branched out !! 🎉❤❤
we all know deftones is finn's favorite band
I was pleasantly surprised that you decided to tackle Deftones after all!
A very well put together retrospective for someone who's not a fan of them
Keep up the great work, Finn!
Deftones have been my favorite band since 5th grade back in '96. Massive influence on every aspect of my life, appreciate this vid.
Sleep Token and Loathe are two of my favorite bands of all time. I love the shoegaze sound when it’s put together with other, different sounds such as Vessel’s voice or something really heavy.
Which band played when he brought them up? I want to hear more.
@@chriszhlybear4139 That song is Loathe - New faces in the dark
Loathe and ST are both incredible, especially with how heavy Loathe can get at a second's notice
Diamond Eyes, White Pony and Koi No Yokan are 3 absolutely amazing albums
I think you hit the nail on the head with this video! Deftones have evolved over the years, I remember buying around the fur as a teenager when it first came out and thinking this is the best album ever! They've been through their ups and downs, but I love that with every album you get something new. They would have faded out a long time ago had they not continued to push and experiment, and if they were to decide to hang it up tomorrow, I feel like they've definitely raised the bar for other bands in the industry.