Funny. When the M5 was normally aspirated everybody pointed out how turbocharged cars were going to be far superior, when the M5 got turbocharged it instantly got disliked for the sounds. Now the M5's 0-60 number plates were lagging behind the competition given the lack of an all-wheel drive system and everybody is ovating the E63's drag racing abilities. Now that the M5 has it people claim it doesn't have character any longer. go figure...
BMW M sport boss declared that there would never be a turbo M car, when the original RS4 was launched. Also BMW declared that 4wd is not for sports cars. They look a bit silly now. I like the M5, but then I like awd and turbo.
To me, the M5 is a lot more visually attractive than the E63, which looks like a tank. Also imo the M5 sounds better, and it will especially sound better with an aftermarket exhaust. The E63 sounds like it revs to 1000 rpm and farts way too much. Mercedes never should have gotten rid of the 6.2
The car is truly monster. the acceleration figure of this car beat Porsche (911 GT3 RS, 991.1), McLaren (570S) & Pagani (Zonda Cinque). 0 to 60mph only 3.1 seconds. faster than any other supercar.
BMW has finally jumped on the AWD wagon, kills the competition with an 11.1 1/4 pass and the fastest 0-60 in it's class, and everyone still has a bone to pick with BMW.. seems like they're doing something right that everyone else isn't 🤣😂
Come on Mercedes and Audi fans. No need for anger just because M5 is at top again. M-cars belong there as class leaders. It's a fact known by the whole world. Except for a few angry fans of other brands.
Fast Er I think you're the one who's angry. M5 is not on top. Both cars are equally matched. So the ultimate deciding factor comes down to personal preference. Mercedes are also known to be class leaders. Bmw used to be leader in this segment but lately the tables have turned and now Mercedes and BMW really are neck in neck with these different classes of cars. Keep that bmw fanboy biased "fact" to yourself. So you're clearly the one thats angry.
First off anyone complaining about the interior has never been a g30 5series so stfu quality materials with a nice open design thats not distracting. Secondly the complaint about the sound?? Again listen to one in person or listen to the white one on youtube or even the blue one from the autoshow. In my opinion that exhuast note has way more character. And of course we all know this will beat the amg when it comes for the performancing testing ;)
thing is, the bmw is trying to be the mercs of the past(high power, luxurious ride) while mercs are trying to be the bmw's of the past(sharp handling,harsh ride)..they r switching roles now
I remember my first ride in a BMW. It was laser-guided, both in the city at low speed and on the twisties, where sane drivers live most. My neighbour (who owns a wellness shop) runs circles around the hood in his obnoxious E63 AMG. I don't know whether to hug him or strangle him. Mercs are successful as 1/2 German 1/2 American muscle car - Loud, fast, well made, lux but arrogant. If you're interested in most of those, but with more precision and subtlety, then it's the M5. Best all-in-one daily driver in my opinion - and for the first time (in Canada), available all season. Can't wait!
You filmed the video in 21:9, I love it cause I have a 21:9 screen but still you uploaded it as a 16:9 with black bars? Why? You should upload as 21:9, it will automatically create the black bars for 16:9 users. Just a little feedback here.
Tuddec that's such a stupid way to look at it. The M5 and E63s are seen as neck and neck competitors, they both cost around the same. Think of the normal E63 as a lesser, cut price version of the car.
Funny reading these comments! Looks are in the eye of the beholder, you either like it or you dont! Merc fans saying the E63s is better (technically the comparison should be with E63 not the 's'). Also, why is it better? Becuase it might be slightly faster in a straight line. I'd be interested to see a proper test by someone respectable between the two (im sure this will come soon enough!) Sound wise... the age of the person buying this car new is probably 40+ (maybe even older), if I could afford this I'd want the sound to be a little understated so that I can drive it without everyone hearing me coming from 10 miles away! Also, the comp pack will address a few of these (lets call them 'fixable issues') for the more hardcore fans! Generally i think BMW have done a great job! However, I have obviously not driven one but as with all bimmers of late the steering isn't what is used to be (which is a real shame). The e39 still hold the crown in my mind!
0 to 100 kmh 3.1 seconds. BMW allways underestimates the power and acceleration of their cars, seems unbelievable but if you do some research ect.. you will agree.
Editor of this video, please upload it as a real 21:9 instead of a 16:9 It produces black bars all around on 21:9 screens. Having to use a chrome plugin to counter that effect! Nevertheless Great Content!
greatest M5 was E39 n E60 came close to high rev V10, new M5 F90 isn't for old M fan like me n former M5 E60 n F10 owner. Merc E63 S true successor to M5 E39
Bmw started to get sick after the e46 and the e39 and died after the e60 and the e90 rip BMW your last 2 ultimate driving machines were the E39 and the E46
BMW's no longer have feel and personality. I think the E63 is gonna be alot more fun and engaging while still having the same performance. Can't wait for the comparison tho.
I agree 100% the bmw is undoubtably amazing but when it comes to the overall characters of the 2 I think the E63s ticks a lot more of the “right” boxes this time around even if the bmw ends up being faster around tracks when I’m the hands of professional drivers, E63 is a Beast but the bmw fanatics will make like it doesn’t exist😂
BMW have fallen into the trap of trying to do AMG. Let AMG do AMG, do BMW. They have gone away from everything BMW stood for and are trying to play the game on someone else's terms.
Why would you feel the E63 is better. This is faster and more agile while also being more comfortable and looks better. More in depth reviews by people who know what they're talking about will soon be released.
In every way? I am sorry, I would respect your opinion if you said the car appeals to you much more, but "better in every way"? How come? They are almost the exact same car, just a different look, and the Bimmer is a tad quicker and every reviewer up until now has said that the 5 Series uses vastly superior material in the interior, while also having the better infotainment system, and much higher and crisper resolution on the displays. Would buy it any day over the E63s, I just like the look and the posh interior more, though I don't think it's better in every way than the E63s, saying something like that is ludicrous.
Yea....looks like an Accord. Or wait...nonono, maybe the Accord looks like a 5 series? Since 5 series kept the design language since it came out a couple of decades ago.
BMW simply cannot or does not make communicative steering anymore; they've lost their way in that respect. If you want engaging steering you have to go to Porsche or Cadillac.
All cars with electric steering will have no feel and thats the way its been since they including BMW have been using it. The Journo's have this placebo effect they are working through at the moment. It is physically impossible to have "feel" from a system that isn't a mechanical one.
Not playing catch up, their focus is on dynamics and performance. They are the leaders in this category and have been since the M5 created the genre in 1985.
Patrick Weir Obviously you haven't seen HUD, gesture control or the Z4, X7, 8 Series Concepts. BMW introduced iDrive to the industry 2 decades ago, still leading. Mercedes dashes are video games.
Funny. When the M5 was normally aspirated everybody pointed out how turbocharged cars were going to be far superior, when the M5 got turbocharged it instantly got disliked for the sounds.
Now the M5's 0-60 number plates were lagging behind the competition given the lack of an all-wheel drive system and everybody is ovating the E63's drag racing abilities.
Now that the M5 has it people claim it doesn't have character any longer. go figure...
Driver7 well said, I total agree.. when you are the best you’re always on a pedestal.
Driver7 *ikr*
BMW M sport boss declared that there would never be a turbo M car, when the original RS4 was launched. Also BMW declared that 4wd is not for sports cars.
They look a bit silly now.
I like the M5, but then I like awd and turbo.
I totally agree with what you said there. I think Mercedes has bought these Paid Auto-"Journalists" with their money to give BMW a bad name!
Driver7 iA
To me, the M5 is a lot more visually attractive than the E63, which looks like a tank. Also imo the M5 sounds better, and it will especially sound better with an aftermarket exhaust. The E63 sounds like it revs to 1000 rpm and farts way too much. Mercedes never should have gotten rid of the 6.2
Michael McDonald cls63 looks better than both
The car is truly monster. the acceleration figure of this car beat Porsche (911 GT3 RS, 991.1), McLaren (570S) & Pagani (Zonda Cinque). 0 to 60mph only 3.1 seconds. faster than any other supercar.
M5 smashes it. Just wait for the competition package
Stunning, stunning, stunning car. Well done BMW.
BMW has finally jumped on the AWD wagon, kills the competition with an 11.1 1/4 pass and the fastest 0-60 in it's class, and everyone still has a bone to pick with BMW.. seems like they're doing something right that everyone else isn't 🤣😂
Without Sutcliffe I have learnt nothing about this car!
Come on Mercedes and Audi fans. No need for anger just because M5 is at top again. M-cars belong there as class leaders. It's a fact known by the whole world. Except for a few angry fans of other brands.
Fast Er I think you're the one who's angry. M5 is not on top. Both cars are equally matched. So the ultimate deciding factor comes down to personal preference. Mercedes are also known to be class leaders. Bmw used to be leader in this segment but lately the tables have turned and now Mercedes and BMW really are neck in neck with these different classes of cars. Keep that bmw fanboy biased "fact" to yourself. So you're clearly the one thats angry.
top lol
Hasan Al-habbobi not m5 but ///M power
First off anyone complaining about the interior has never been a g30 5series so stfu quality materials with a nice open design thats not distracting. Secondly the complaint about the sound?? Again listen to one in person or listen to the white one on youtube or even the blue one from the autoshow. In my opinion that exhuast note has way more character. And of course we all know this will beat the amg when it comes for the performancing testing ;)
Stefan Cupovic The Merc sounds too fake. It doesent sound like its alive.
I love the seat designs.
thing is, the bmw is trying to be the mercs of the past(high power, luxurious ride) while mercs are trying to be the bmw's of the past(sharp handling,harsh ride)..they r switching roles now
I remember my first ride in a BMW. It was laser-guided, both in the city at low speed and on the twisties, where sane drivers live most. My neighbour (who owns a wellness shop) runs circles around the hood in his obnoxious E63 AMG. I don't know whether to hug him or strangle him. Mercs are successful as 1/2 German 1/2 American muscle car - Loud, fast, well made, lux but arrogant. If you're interested in most of those, but with more precision and subtlety, then it's the M5. Best all-in-one daily driver in my opinion - and for the first time (in Canada), available all season. Can't wait!
My dream car right here. Beast. That is all.
same man dream car
Great Video Review of one of the best Super Saloons on sale
The King is back
No mention of the CTS-V?
Informative review man.
The M5 is now a perfect example of a car that bores you to death with how fast it is
Just watched the E63 video as well, both of them are awesome cars, but I would take the E63. IMO it’s a better package.
Do BMW's still pump artificial engine noise through the stereo system? 🙄
Meanwhile, over at Audi, engineers are smiling at BMW and MB, for taking a leaf out of their Audi Quattro AWD and turbocharging book.
I always thought my dream car was an S550, but this thing is catching my eye
You pay your money you make your choice, making sweeping comments isn’t constructive, it’s not thinking.
Manual F10 m5's just shot up in value.
You filmed the video in 21:9, I love it cause I have a 21:9 screen but still you uploaded it as a 16:9 with black bars? Why? You should upload as 21:9, it will automatically create the black bars for 16:9 users. Just a little feedback here.
Stunning car, stunning scenery. Love that BMW blue....
New Panamera Turbo is the current super saloon champ. Pricey though.
So many merc fanboys are commenting on BMW video😂😂
BMW and Mercedes aren't the only ones producing "super saloons"
J. Martinni theyre the best in the game. M5 created the catagory.
The best car on Earth
The engine is utterly amazing and sounds the part... Not sure what this guy is talking about, calling it characterless???
Am I right in saying this is the first time BMW has reused the engine in an M5?
They’re comparing the M5 with the E63 S. Wait until BMW make a Competition Pack!
Tuddec that's such a stupid way to look at it. The M5 and E63s are seen as neck and neck competitors, they both cost around the same. Think of the normal E63 as a lesser, cut price version of the car.
Funny reading these comments! Looks are in the eye of the beholder, you either like it or you dont! Merc fans saying the E63s is better (technically the comparison should be with E63 not the 's'). Also, why is it better? Becuase it might be slightly faster in a straight line. I'd be interested to see a proper test by someone respectable between the two (im sure this will come soon enough!) Sound wise... the age of the person buying this car new is probably 40+ (maybe even older), if I could afford this I'd want the sound to be a little understated so that I can drive it without everyone hearing me coming from 10 miles away! Also, the comp pack will address a few of these (lets call them 'fixable issues') for the more hardcore fans! Generally i think BMW have done a great job! However, I have obviously not driven one but as with all bimmers of late the steering isn't what is used to be (which is a real shame). The e39 still hold the crown in my mind!
0 to 100 kmh 3.1 seconds. BMW allways underestimates the power and acceleration of their cars, seems unbelievable but if you do some research ect.. you will agree.
Weird how none of the launch cars have privacy glass
The F10 exhaust sounds more unique to my ears. I know I'm in the minority, but I thought the "flat plane" sound was pretty cool.
Only the elites can own one
The best car in the world.
Steve Sutcliffe is best car tester
What’s with the letterbox video crop?
How much?
Where the Eff is Steve Sutcliffe. I searched every review for him.
I thought he was with Auto something
Merc fanboys are the new gtr fanboys
Tesla fanbys are the new GTR fanboys.
No dual clutch transmission? That is sad!
Carwow clocked it at 3,1 sec 0-62
Incredible, supercar area.
Editor of this video, please upload it as a real 21:9 instead of a 16:9 It produces black bars all around on 21:9 screens. Having to use a chrome plugin to counter that effect! Nevertheless Great Content!
yeah this is annoying on youtube...
greatest M5 was E39 n E60 came close to high rev V10, new M5 F90 isn't for old M fan like me n former M5 E60 n F10 owner.
Merc E63 S true successor to M5 E39
Iconic M5 and professional magazine makes 5 minute clip?
Bmw started to get sick after the e46 and the e39 and died after the e60 and the e90 rip BMW your last 2 ultimate driving machines were the E39 and the E46
They let the most boring guy drive one of the best M cars.
I’m so happy this came out! Maybe it’ll make the f10 M5 more affordable for a teenager
the m5 is dead. p.s. it’s also ugly.
TRUE WORDS IN VIDEO.......BUT ENGINE IS AWESOME/BEST, COMPARED TO M B E63s
This is the last generation of the M5 that will look so tame...
Abhishek Shinde how do you know
where is steve ToT
BMW M5 vs Mercedes E63 AMG vs Audi RS7
Factor 50 next time perhaps. huh :) ?
BMW's no longer have feel and personality. I think the E63 is gonna be alot more fun and engaging while still having the same performance. Can't wait for the comparison tho.
Abd junior Hallak No comparison. You lose.
Dan Cowan, well that's just like your opinion man.... But yea seriously how do I lose?
I agree 100% the bmw is undoubtably amazing but when it comes to the overall characters of the 2 I think the E63s ticks a lot more of the “right” boxes this time around even if the bmw ends up being faster around tracks when I’m the hands of professional drivers, E63 is a Beast but the bmw fanatics will make like it doesn’t exist😂
Says someone who didn't drive a new BMW....ever.
When did you drive this? Did you drive an M2?
And not a single mention of this cars mightiest rival, the Alfa Romeo Quadrifoglio?!?! What fallacy is this. Still a nice car though
marco fava The Alfa Romeo's competition is the M3 not M5
I assume you're having a laugh. These cars are not competitors.
Only watch Steve Sutcliffe
head to head ha e63s
Shame they didn't spend any time on it's looks... Utterly forgettable.
My sub feed is now blown with the m5 videos
Fk me
bmw done
BMW have fallen into the trap of trying to do AMG. Let AMG do AMG, do BMW. They have gone away from everything BMW stood for and are trying to play the game on someone else's terms.
ImBarryScottCSS a lot of reviewers are saying the same thing
AMG BACH KING Name 1.
ImBarryScottCSS What r u typing about?
It's called competition.
Too bland and too big.
It may have nigh on 600 bhp but it looks like a 520 d...
Joe Waplington Umm that's the point
Arman_dleg that's why I'd buy the E63...
Don’t care for m5’s and m3’s after the e60 and e92
Yet you clicked the video anyway.
LegendInThaMakin yes to let you know
Oversteer/ k well thanks for sharing.
I would choose the E63s 4matic anyday.
Adam Chase how about drive both and then see if you still come to that conclusion
Yet, your opinions are irrelevant because:
1) You never drove an E63
2) You never drove the new M5
3) Your IQ is lower than 60
derbigpr500 😹 true
I feel like the E63 S is better in every way... But for some reason I'd still want this M5. i just cant quite put my finger on it.
Bush did 9/11
UgenixK Why would you buy s C Class clone?
Why would you feel the E63 is better. This is faster and more agile while also being more comfortable and looks better. More in depth reviews by people who know what they're talking about will soon be released.
The m5 is faster 0-60 and in the quarter mile.
jamviator I'd have to drive both to see. Thats why i said i feel. And it looks. Like the M5 is the quicker car from newer videos
In every way? I am sorry, I would respect your opinion if you said the car appeals to you much more, but "better in every way"? How come? They are almost the exact same car, just a different look, and the Bimmer is a tad quicker and every reviewer up until now has said that the 5 Series uses vastly superior material in the interior, while also having the better infotainment system, and much higher and crisper resolution on the displays.
Would buy it any day over the E63s, I just like the look and the posh interior more, though I don't think it's better in every way than the E63s, saying something like that is ludicrous.
Rs6 only
Terrible interior to 1990s
What happened to the design, looks like a Honda Accord.
Angry 8 Accord have been ripping off 5 for a decade.
Yea....looks like an Accord. Or wait...nonono, maybe the Accord looks like a 5 series? Since 5 series kept the design language since it came out a couple of decades ago.
What? It looks nothing like an accord. Especially not the new accord. The m5 looks much better and more athletic.
BMW simply cannot or does not make communicative steering anymore; they've lost their way in that respect. If you want engaging steering you have to go to Porsche or Cadillac.
All cars with electric steering will have no feel and thats the way its been since they including BMW have been using it. The Journo's have this placebo effect they are working through at the moment. It is physically impossible to have "feel" from a system that isn't a mechanical one.
BMW interior is so outdated, they’re playing catch-up with everyone and still can’t get it right.
Not playing catch up, their focus is on dynamics and performance. They are the leaders in this category and have been since the M5 created the genre in 1985.
Dynamics and performance ? The AMG division hasnt stopped improving, and is now on par / better than the M models
We need a Chris Harris side by side comparison, UA-cam comment speculation and bias won't settle anything.
Chris Harris is unquestionably one of the best automotive journalists of the moment.
Patrick Weir Obviously you haven't seen HUD, gesture control or the Z4, X7, 8 Series Concepts. BMW introduced iDrive to the industry 2 decades ago, still leading. Mercedes dashes are video games.
Fiat Multipla > any M car
sgirwan You love your car that much?
I’d rather have a cammed CTS-V
a 2018 bmw m5 for 102k is still slower than a 2015 Tesla model s p85d that can be picked up used for around 75k
Looks almost the same as f10,slightly tuned engine and they added xdrive-that's all.
It's actually quite different, and I don't think it's quite the same as BMW xDrive. Do some research.
No, thanks.
Looks awful
new RS6 Sedan > E63S > M5
jtkirk It's not even out yet, idiot.