No it didn't the last one was a huge luxo barge aswell, the last compact modern 5 series was wayyyy before the F10 besides classics don't appreciate in value until at least 20/25 years when they've appreciated above they're original msrp which isn't guaranteed! Either!
Absolutely agree. No amount of chassis upgrades will compensate for a 500kg increase in weight. I can’t imagine this will feel as good to drive as the previous model. A shame tbh
I mean they probably did the best they could...apart from the design, that is shit. But unlike Mercedes they kept the V8 in a family sized car in spite of today's emission standards. This means a shit ton of emission reducing equipment, which of course adds weight. And the hybrid system adds even more weight 🫡.
Dude u guys know nothing about cars. Like chris harris just said on a joe rogan interview. All these people talking about weight but not driving it are morons! Everyone that has driven one says its amazing.. including chris harris. He says "u cant feel the weight of it at all. Its a beast" "better then the last gen" same with joe achillies review.
evs are heavy as hell compared to normal cars but still use a lot less energy for the same outcome. The efficiency of an electric powertrain is making a lot more difference than the few hundred kilos more. That said i dont think a car like a m5 should be a hybrid it doesnt really make sense.
@@marcroyale13 yep that does not take under consideration power line loos before charging and the fact those batteries tend to lose charge while doing nothing for a while.
@@hagestad yes it does not but when a car uses an equivalent of 2l of fuel per 100km even 10 or 15% charging loss would not be significant. And my friends hybrid (I dont have a ev or hybrid) lost about 3% of charge while he was on a 2 week vacation.
@@oskar6661BMW said actually they design their car mostly for the China/Asia market which has responded very well to their new designs .. big grills etc
@@blackpanda7612 funny thing that this new UlTrA fAsT eXeCuTiVe SaLoOn is slower and heavier than it’s older brother, what already doesn’t make any sense. I’m not even talking that it’s nearest hybrid competitor as GT63S-E has +130 more hp, and is much faster though. If you like driving cows and eating shit - good luck lil bro
This is a funny comment until you realize the Toyota tundra is only a few kg heavier. It’s just sad now. Like Porsche added hybrid systems to the new 911 and its only a tad heavier with more then enough extra power
I wish he would point out what he hates... He basically "likes" everything. That makes BMW go like "oh people love this!!" just because car reviewers "like it"
Good! This insanity needs to stop. He should tell the m engineers they are muppets for this and for following EU complete con regulations. Trying to lower emissions on these cars why they fly more planes and more cargo ships are China opened coal mines every single day 😂
@@weavingshroud Nah man, Carwow has nearly 9.5 million subscribers. This is not a independent review of a new car.... this is shameless payed advertisement in hopes of swaying puplic opinion of their heavyweight monstrosity before it comes out. Matt did his best to not sell his soul without displeasing the bosses.
I'm the biggest bmw fanboy but this car isn't worth defending. I'm fine with everything with the m5 except the weight and the exterior. The car is super slow and would not be able to drift cuz of the weight
I work for a used car dealer, trust me the F10 and G30 5 series and M models have slowed significantly in depreciation. While you're surely at a loss rn with the F90, it'll be a win very later on
@@pikachuispeekingatyou1795 well yea I didn't expect them to make something even uglier than the m3/m4 and the XM and the iX oh wait nevermind you're right, I shouldn't be surprised.
Isn't M supposed to be about performance and not comfort?
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I see M badges on diesels in Europe, dude. And I mean officiallly by BMW. Not done by the owners. Having Ms everywere is also a trim level nowadays. I must admit that the M550D is a powerhouse of an autobahn blaster. I drove it once. A big fat diesel with an automatic. But it shouldn't have Ms on it.
This doesn't add up. 2½ tonnes would be barely acceptable for a full EV, but that it weighs that much as a hybrid is beyond me. The battery pack is ~200kg so does the electric motor weigh 300kg???
@@Stilo95 These just data's on the paper! We know how much power the car should have, but we actually know BMW do often 100hp more than they say. The new M5 is the new standard and could be still better then the older ones! The new one is heavier and should be less agile, but it's clear the new one will be fast while its way more luxury and way better for daily drive then any other M5. I'm pretty sure the new M5 will do few things so good, that it will be the better option for all day drive. But if u look at the comments, u will see some people even think the last good M5 is the M5 E60.
My parents had a GMT400 Chevy Suburban in the mid 1990's, and it was a pretty high trim level variant, with an aftermarket entertainment system (TV, VHS etc.). That thing weighed 2.65 tons. So this new M5 seems to be quite the porker.
I remember that silent drive episode however the aventador was then released after which was probably the last of that era. Everything has batteries now
This really does look like one of the death throes of ICE. But things move on, there is a battery that charges to 10-80% in 5 mins being demo'd and there are some very, very clever engineers and materials technologists out there. We will see some very interesting EVs and ultra low emission hybrids soon. This is the era when mistakes are made and lessons learned. This car being a point in case.
@@dddd-uk4vn what about the model S plaid? Still more powerful, lighter and will be closer to half the price while simultaneously offering better performance.
Not going to be very long until all manufacturers scrap V8's. World governments are implementing ever stricter emission regulations. The V8 is on its last legs.
Because people just buy M5's and stuff cuz there known to be fast... tell any text book BMW fan that there probably better off with a C63 in this generation for performance and they'll kick there feet and moan about it for fucking hours even though on paper there basically rivals.
So they save a few grams of Co2, but with 500kg extra weight, you're going to burn through so much more tyres. How much rubber wastage is those grams of Co2 worth?
BMW has lost the plot. First, it was the complete nonsensical refresh of its exterior and interior appearance. Now, they are making nonsensical performance decisions.
727hp is cool, and the fact that it's a hybrid doesn't bother me, but 2.5 TONS!!! Holy shit, it weighs more than many SUV's. F90 M5 CS and CT5V BW remain the best sedans today
I get your point but usually weight isn’t that big of a problem with Evs because the battery, which holds most of the weight, is placed at the lowest point of the car so it usually feels not that heavy as the number suggests. For example the Porsche Taycan drives excellent on track even tho it weights as much as a truck. Still 2.4ts is really heavy but I don’t think it will be a huge problem.
@@tomdornieden4053 I get your point, but I respectfully disagree. Sure, a car can be heavy and still drive very well, Porsche and BMW are very good with chassis conception and tuning. But take the same great chassis, remove 700kg and you have an even better handling car. The real problem is that it costs more to remove weight than add power and hybrid systems to meet emissions regulations. And it's not just a problem about batteries, if you take only the petrol M5s in the graph here you can see how much they just gained weight over the generations...
@@Abrvpt Most of the weight comes from the growth in size and safety. The M3 is the new old M5 I guess. Performance hybrids are interesting tho. The new 992.2 Carrera GTS is a really cool concept I think as the increase in weight isn’t that big.
All everyone talks about is emissions, but NOBODY talks about the fact that heavier cars produce more microplastics from heavier tyre usage, and that they wear out the road surface SIGNIFICANTLY more than lighter cars (the relation between car weight and road wear is exponential, this means if a car is 2x heavier, it will wear out the road surface 16 TIMES MORE).
@@rudySTi i don't, clearly. I just hate the hypocrisy of it. This whole emissions stuff prevents fun small, light and cheap cars from being made, as manufacturers try to sideskirt the regulations by building these monsters that few can afford. This effectively kills off any semblance of hope for young petrolheads.
Bro people don’t know yet that electric cars aren’t that ecofriendy because mostly electricity production ain’t too green and there’s still no clue what people should do with used car batteries, which contains very harmful components for earth and planet in overall. So I don’t even know when will they find out that hybrids also ain’t that good for the environment as manufacturers say.
1) the microplastics emitted from heavier EVs pale in environmental impact compared to ghg emissions from ice vehicles 2) many plug-in/EV manufacturers are creating tires with less rolling resistance ---> less tire wear 3) gas cars are getting in the same weight class as industry leader EVs - who use lighter batteriers with less rare metals(like LFP batteries), meaning that this problem would be happening regardless of whether the industry shifted to EVs There's no debate that ev cars are better for the environment, but yeah, the driving experience will be compromised until EV manufacturers figure out how to engage drivers at the same level with the disadvantage of having no sound. However, this will probably happen as current EVs are focusing on this(Hyundia Ioniq 5n). Edit - yeah idk why BMW made this car so shit. If you make it heavier, you need to put more power. Seems like they got lazy and didn't bother to develop on their engine or come up with lighter motors so they could put more.
Yeah but even non hybrid cars gain weight. Is that because BMW is too cheap to spend money on the most weight optimized design? or is that crash test regulations are at play?
@@JackV-tw8bw they can try to use all the tricks they want to try and disguise the hefty weight penalty but it's not happening. 500kg is just way too much.
I don’t understand the hate. Some people just can’t accept the fact design changes. To me this is definitely BMW but they still managed to keep it BMW. I like they didn’t go with the wacky design of the 7 series etc. I think this is a great update the M5.
The design is just bad, it doesn't flow. Put it next to f90 M5 and look them from any angle u want, front, side profile or rear. F90 looks so much better and follows a design language on all of its parts. New m5 has boxy front and rear but the roof line and rear quarter panels make it look kinda round and fat. It just doesn't work It looks bad, hybrid system makes it more complicated, it's really heavy, slower than previous generation. They are going to loose a lot of sales.
@@Rease-i3n The last good looking indeed. I agree. But not the last good driving ones. I want to say the last generation with nice steering feel was the E90. The last great steering feel might be the Z4M Coupe. From 2009....
Looks much better than the F90 IMO; more aggressive stance without the big rabbit’s teeth grill of the G8x and the new tech inside looks good too. The only disappointment is the slower claimed acceleration time. There is going to come a time where road legal cars just don’t need to be made any faster; maybe we are already there.
@@APJ4 Some will say the E60 M5 is more emotional to drive because of the V10 but in reality it's a ticking time bomb. I also like the F10 M5 30 Jahre Edition.
@@steven_taylor_I’ve had both, positives and negatives personally I like the F more simply because of how it drives and increased comfort levels. Having said that obviously the sound is better from the E. Not a ticking time bomb though it breaks you rebuild it😏
Every car CEO went crazy when the Tesla skyrocketed and started copying all the terrible ideas. Now that the stock is down, they are rolling back. I bet we won't have a European car industry soon enough. It'll all be Chinese
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So this means there is hope for an AMG E63 s or e … ?
Can i also get a car for free?
This car just made the previous generation M5 value skyrocket
I’m never gonna get one now 😢
I hope so.
No it didn't the last one was a huge luxo barge aswell, the last compact modern 5 series was wayyyy before the F10 besides classics don't appreciate in value until at least 20/25 years when they've appreciated above they're original msrp which isn't guaranteed! Either!
No way the new generation will be around in 20 years, all this stuff is too fragile
Yeah i was just thinking this
This looks like a GTA version of a BMW to avoid copyright
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I didnt like the car anyway but you completely destroyed it now for me i cant unsee it 😂😂😂
Not at all, but that was funny😂
lmfaoo i said that about the front of the bugatti tourbillon… probably an unpopular opinio
500kg heavier???? Nah thats not an m car
heavier then an f150 truck lmfao
yeah like they aint heavy enough nowadays
@@noahskina5291 it's almost as if batteries have weight. Who would have thought? What else are you going to gatekeep?
Absolutely agree. No amount of chassis upgrades will compensate for a 500kg increase in weight. I can’t imagine this will feel as good to drive as the previous model. A shame tbh
Yeah man it is too much
Never been more disappointed by a bmw release.
I mean they probably did the best they could...apart from the design, that is shit. But unlike Mercedes they kept the V8 in a family sized car in spite of today's emission standards. This means a shit ton of emission reducing equipment, which of course adds weight. And the hybrid system adds even more weight 🫡.
@@M1tzaaaid rather lose the v8 for a v6 or something instead of it being an ugly ass , slower M5 which is heavier than a fu**ing defender and x6m
@@iicarplaying1930 Then you would have complained that they didn't keep the V8, just like y'all complained when they didn't put the V10 in the F10
@@iicarplaying1930 Besides, Bmw has no experience with v6 engines
@@M1tzaaa I never complained about any v10. Also bmw has experience with I6 engines
Two and a half tonne M5. Nuts.
heavier then an f150 truck lmfao
I agree it's closer to a X5M than a M5 😂😂😂😂
@@blackchang1981closer to a 3 bedroom semi-detatched house in weight than an M5 😂
@@YegoYTP 😂😂😂😂😂
In 2030 the new one will probably weight 3 ton lol
I don’t like it
Don’t buy one then 👍🏽
Well then don't buy it
I like it
Luckily, no one gives a flying fuck what you think 😂
Well they didn't make it for you.
R.I.P M5 1984-2023
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u guys say this about every new car then start liking it a few weeks later😂
@@j300zmost of them can 't even afford them anyway
@@j300z fr, everyone is arguing saying it's bad
@@j300z
Xm X2 new 5series 7series.....
They are still considered as 💩💩💩
"M" now stands for: MASSIVE
Nah, I think they was hoping for a german Maybach here 😏
Or "M"istake... 👌
Dude u guys know nothing about cars. Like chris harris just said on a joe rogan interview. All these people talking about weight but not driving it are morons! Everyone that has driven one says its amazing.. including chris harris. He says "u cant feel the weight of it at all. Its a beast" "better then the last gen" same with joe achillies review.
@@G82Watts sure he says that, getting a fat commission for every sold car, don’t be soo naive
If carrying around an extra 500kgs for emission "improvement" just proves the whole emission thing is bullshit
evs are heavy as hell compared to normal cars but still use a lot less energy for the same outcome. The efficiency of an electric powertrain is making a lot more difference than the few hundred kilos more. That said i dont think a car like a m5 should be a hybrid it doesnt really make sense.
@@marcroyale13 yep that does not take under consideration power line loos before charging and the fact those batteries tend to lose charge while doing nothing for a while.
@@hagestad yes it does not but when a car uses an equivalent of 2l of fuel per 100km even 10 or 15% charging loss would not be significant. And my friends hybrid (I dont have a ev or hybrid) lost about 3% of charge while he was on a 2 week vacation.
@@marcroyale13 3% of charge is probably like half of what i use @ home in that period just for standing still (depending on battery size ofc)
@@hagestad *3% of 18kWh is 540Wh you can power a house for about 6h with that when nobody is at home
2021: let's make it 90kg lighter and call it CS
2024: let's make it 500kg heavier and call it BS
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2026: Make it 3500kgs.
2030: let's make it 3500kg+, so people will require a cat. C license to drive it, so all the drivers will be professional at least.
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Absolute headshot!
It's interesting to see the gradual transition of iconic cars like the M5 into general appliances.
But the TikTok influencer won't notice when she's having one purchased for her...sadly.
@@oskar6661BMW said actually they design their car mostly for the China/Asia market which has responded very well to their new designs .. big grills etc
Grey goods
Waiting for the 15 year old fanboys to say "it kinda grew on me"
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wtf, i thought he said 2000 kg now, but over 2400? What were the BMW engineers thinking?
What if its amazing we have new tech now
It weights more than a fucking X5M, what the hell? How in the world in this thing supposed to be a SPORTS sedan?
M5 is an ultra fast executive saloon. This is not meant to be an M3/M4 😂😂😂
@@blackpanda7612 funny thing that this new UlTrA fAsT eXeCuTiVe SaLoOn is slower and heavier than it’s older brother, what already doesn’t make any sense. I’m not even talking that it’s nearest hybrid competitor as GT63S-E has +130 more hp, and is much faster though. If you like driving cows and eating shit - good luck lil bro
@@yaroslavbauer8137how do you know an e63se is much faster if there havent been any times released for this car
@@mathijn285he wrote GT63S-E
The hybrid system makes it heavy and because of regulations they can't produce the M5 without it
The carbon package is like a overweight person feeling good about themself by eating their big mac without the salat.
Facts 😅😅😅😂😂😂
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Bro…fack that salad !!
"Hold the pickles. I'm a diet."
With a diet coke lol
The fun is over.
This is a small truck, 2,5 tons.
Game over
Yep. 2688kgs is the official weight of this M5.
@@purwantiallan5089 wasnt it like 2435kg?
This is a funny comment until you realize the Toyota tundra is only a few kg heavier. It’s just sad now.
Like Porsche added hybrid systems to the new 911 and its only a tad heavier with more then enough extra power
@@jacktaylor3883 the difference between the c8 stingray and the e-ray isnt this massive either
@@jacktaylor3883 evervbody should choose a Porsche over a bmw
Did the designer forget what brand he works for?
Old head of Design and some designer went to Kia/Hyundai actually. No joke.
Matt is trying to find positive things in this 😂 But he looks disappointed.
I wish he would point out what he hates... He basically "likes" everything. That makes BMW go like "oh people love this!!" just because car reviewers "like it"
@@weavingshroud he will in review video, he says it in video. you dont watch? just comment?
Good! This insanity needs to stop. He should tell the m engineers they are muppets for this and for following EU complete con regulations. Trying to lower emissions on these cars why they fly more planes and more cargo ships are China opened coal mines every single day 😂
@@weavingshroud Nah man, Carwow has nearly 9.5 million subscribers. This is not a independent review of a new car.... this is shameless payed advertisement in hopes of swaying puplic opinion of their heavyweight monstrosity before it comes out. Matt did his best to not sell his soul without displeasing the bosses.
He hasn't tested it yet come on. BMW know what their customers expect. It's the handling🤩🤩🤩
The F90 CS just became the most valuable M5 to buy now.
Just?
Every gen of m5 loses tons of value look at autotrader
ehh, the bmw carbon buckets are absolute dogshit. once your in its fine but so hard to get in and out of. M3X w ventilated seat was my choice
@@heiden2413 that's what everyone that didn't spec the bucket seats say lol
Exactly the best m5 ever until now
It weighs more than a 2024 Ford F150 Ecoboost 4X4.
BMW are truly innovative when it comes to making their sports cars morbidly obese.
More than Lambo Urus 😅
And almost 2 times more than a fucking peugeot minivan
It's only 20 kg lighter than a Tesla Model X Plaid!
@@drunkenhobo8020Thats what electric nonsense does.
BMW has truly lost the plot. M3/M4 and to an extent 340 is all we’ve got left of the good stuff.
Uglier ✅
Heavier ✅
Slower✅
Good job bmw 👍
I'm the biggest bmw fanboy but this car isn't worth defending. I'm fine with everything with the m5 except the weight and the exterior. The car is super slow and would not be able to drift cuz of the weight
LoL
Whoever the new designer for bmw is he needs to go every recent bmw looks ugly as hell
@@jalaluddin5156lmao😂
more expensive too and because of how awful it is the previous gens will sky rocket in value :(
well this car just turned my rapidly depreciating F90 into a sensible investment.
I work for a used car dealer, trust me the F10 and G30 5 series and M models have slowed significantly in depreciation. While you're surely at a loss rn with the F90, it'll be a win very later on
im right here with you brother got the 2021 m5 comp
Keep a hold of it and make sure your descendants hold onto it because one day, someone will be able to retire on the auction price
That’s exactly what I thought about my launch edition model
How's the reliability on that m5? F10 that is
They didnt just forget to design the radar module. They forgot to design the whole thing.
are you gonna cry about it?
@@adi8216 should I? I dont collect 5 series at all.
@@adi8216 BMW's stock and it's investors will be
You act like you're surprised about how the car looks when it obviously has carried most of the 5 series feats over that has already been released.
@@pikachuispeekingatyou1795 well yea I didn't expect them to make something even uglier than the m3/m4 and the XM and the iX oh wait nevermind you're right, I shouldn't be surprised.
Isn't M supposed to be about performance and not comfort?
I see M badges on diesels in Europe, dude. And I mean officiallly by BMW. Not done by the owners. Having Ms everywere is also a trim level nowadays. I must admit that the M550D is a powerhouse of an autobahn blaster. I drove it once. A big fat diesel with an automatic. But it shouldn't have Ms on it.
Think of this:
-The M5 gained 60 kg putting a screaming V10 engine in the E60.
-And now it gained 570 kg putting a hybrid in..
And about 70kg, by adding xdrive with same engine it was 5kg lighter. Now only sporty cars in bmw M cars line are M2, M3/M4.
@@martindekan5625 And when the M2 weighs 1700kg and is the featherweight of the range, BMW needs to look at itself.
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Not many car manufacturers offering light cars. Regulations and such. Alpine is tiny you cant expect the same from such large cars @meady200
This doesn't add up. 2½ tonnes would be barely acceptable for a full EV, but that it weighs that much as a hybrid is beyond me. The battery pack is ~200kg so does the electric motor weigh 300kg???
The history of the M5 ended in F90
Just wait before u talk shit!
*E60
@@MatorThorsson Wait for what? It's a fact and an objective thing.
@@MatorThorssonlock your doors I am gonna touch you tonight
@@Stilo95 These just data's on the paper! We know how much power the car should have, but we actually know BMW do often 100hp more than they say. The new M5 is the new standard and could be still better then the older ones!
The new one is heavier and should be less agile, but it's clear the new one will be fast while its way more luxury and way better for daily drive then any other M5.
I'm pretty sure the new M5 will do few things so good, that it will be the better option for all day drive.
But if u look at the comments, u will see some people even think the last good M5 is the M5 E60.
Who misses the old M5 design 😢
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anyone with eyes
I stopped buying them after the e39.
@@aussie2uGA good choice my friend. 😊👍
@@aussie2uGABMW is dead to me.
German “luxury” cars as a whole, really.
This car got a dual citizenship with the United States
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This weighs 450 kg more than a Charger Hellcat! 😂wtf. The Charger is a boat!
Benz: Why is no one buying our new AMGs?
BMW: Hold my beer!
Wow, I didn’t know idiots were still doing the “hold my beer” deal.
Are you unable to construct your own own comment you fanny?🤡🤛🏻
😂😂bro this vehicle looks like shit...the amg GT is miles better than this. ya'll bimmer boys must be on something
@@denziiey 4 cylinder "63 amg"?
@@algahiemamir nah they still got the V8 ones. it's the c classes that have that gross 4 cylinder engine
@@denziiey you cant afford either one nor have you driven so shut up.. your opinion is irrelevant
Quite light tbf. 2.5tons 💀💀
Is that not SUV territory? 😭
Weight of a sports car
That's the same weight as a Rolls Royce Ghost...
heavier then an f150 truck lmfao
My parents had a GMT400 Chevy Suburban in the mid 1990's, and it was a pretty high trim level variant, with an aftermarket entertainment system (TV, VHS etc.). That thing weighed 2.65 tons. So this new M5 seems to be quite the porker.
When Jeremy Clarkson drove the V12 Vantage saying this is an end to an era.. This is the new era he was talking about.. It was a good run, lads.. 🫡
Yep, enjoy them while you can...because all the governments around the world are aiming to remove the cars you love - even the ones you own.
Please remind me the episode...
@@PRAY1211 Google V12 Vantage topgear? too difficult?
I remember that silent drive episode however the aventador was then released after which was probably the last of that era. Everything has batteries now
This really does look like one of the death throes of ICE. But things move on, there is a battery that charges to 10-80% in 5 mins being demo'd and there are some very, very clever engineers and materials technologists out there. We will see some very interesting EVs and ultra low emission hybrids soon. This is the era when mistakes are made and lessons learned. This car being a point in case.
M5 500kg heavier looks like m5 tractor 😂
2435 kg ! Do I already need a truck driver license for this monster? 😂😂😂
With luggage and a full tank of gas - yes.
@@DentorumM4687it carried a lot of heavy stuffs in it.
Yeah if you’re driving fatty
Expensive Carbon roof though, to save weight 🤣
@@gwyn111😂
Soft limiters, hybrids, emission rules, why are cars becoming worse? 😢
Global warming obviously
Cause Western governments.
Liberals. How did you not know that??? If you vote for Democrats in the United States or their counterparts in Europe, then this is your fault.
Damn Governments 😢 Just give us all our v8s v10s and v12s please
Your last point answers your question
Carbon pack be like asking for a diet coke after ordering 12 cheeseburgers 😅
The fact that a ford transit van is nearly 300kg lighter is insane
Damn that design 💀
i like it to be honest, and the future M5 wagon is also beautiful
@@TechLant123ok im not bmw kid but f90 is better in everything. saying as mercedes fan
Looks like a Mercedes fr
it is fuckin disgusting🤮
Liking it tbh!
It's crazy that the Bugatti Tourbillion has a V16, 3 electric motors and 1800HP and is still 500KG lighter than this 🤯
maybe because its 40 times the price
@@dddd-uk4vn what about the model S plaid? Still more powerful, lighter and will be closer to half the price while simultaneously offering better performance.
@@dddd-uk4vn ok but it’s engine is still double that of the m5 and still found a way to make it under 2 ton peak engineering
@@youngboyz9764Can’t forget the hybrid system adding to the weight as well
@@themedic7933 yea but the tourbillion also has a hybrid system as well 🤷♂️
At least they kept the v8
Not going to be very long until all manufacturers scrap V8's. World governments are implementing ever stricter emission regulations. The V8 is on its last legs.
Yes, but only to add some weight, not power.
Inside a house yeah
Yea now it weighs as much as a g wagon too
Yeah but like the AMG, this won't sell
The new BMW designer needs to be replaced already
Looks like somebody asked Chat GPT to design the new m5
Think this looks dope. And when they’re forced to do a hybrid, I’m glad they stuck to V8 although it affects the weight quite a lot
🤣🤣🤣 Very good. I wish I had your wit.
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The side view of rear side kinda look like merc
It does
I agree
Yep definitely. German’s copying each other
I couldn’t put my finger on it until you pointed out,I now can’t see a merc,it’s like an ugly old e class
AMG GT 4 door taillights
Holy moly how will these ever sell. 500kg heavier than previous M5, looks electric, dont look agressive or sporty.
Because the people in this price bracket don't care for weight. M5 has always been an ultra fast executive. Its not meant to be an M3/M4.
Because people just buy M5's and stuff cuz there known to be fast... tell any text book BMW fan that there probably better off with a C63 in this generation for performance and they'll kick there feet and moan about it for fucking hours even though on paper there basically rivals.
buddy you underestimate the weirdos in M town, if they bought the pig nosed G80 M cars and that new ugy 8-bit lego M2 they will buy this.
@@BMWZEPHYR but this gen C63 is slower than the M3/4 now isnt it, so you telling them otherwise would be lying
@CITRUS-- the g80 m cars are good looking bro that's just hating the majority like the looks of the g80
So they save a few grams of Co2, but with 500kg extra weight, you're going to burn through so much more tyres. How much rubber wastage is those grams of Co2 worth?
The F90 will turn out to be a future legend
Yah the legend of fat Nissan almera
If the person who designed the cybertruck was asked to draw a BMW from memory
True that lad 😂
Honestly compared to the normal 5 series, the M5 does look more appealing
they just cant or wont make a good looking car
@@Mondballer_00 Well that's a damning indictment then. Do I even want to know.
I wonder if the person who designed this atrocity was the same person which designed the f90 m5
Bugatti: let's make our car lose 500 kg
Bmw: we don't do that here
BMW: We made our car eat an old Bugatti.
BMW has lost the plot. First, it was the complete nonsensical refresh of its exterior and interior appearance. Now, they are making nonsensical performance decisions.
@@ApothecaryTerry emphasis on "old"
@@ApothecaryTerry which one? EB110? 😂
@@ApothecaryTerrythis car beats no Bugatti in existence just stop
Cars have gotten too heavy... A sedan shouldn't exceed 1500kg, let alone 2000kg...
My bmw 330i 2009 is about 1550kg
727hp is cool, and the fact that it's a hybrid doesn't bother me, but 2.5 TONS!!! Holy shit, it weighs more than many SUV's. F90 M5 CS and CT5V BW remain the best sedans today
I get your point but usually weight isn’t that big of a problem with Evs because the battery, which holds most of the weight, is placed at the lowest point of the car so it usually feels not that heavy as the number suggests. For example the Porsche Taycan drives excellent on track even tho it weights as much as a truck. Still 2.4ts is really heavy but I don’t think it will be a huge problem.
727hp but it looks awful and is morbidly obese. I'll stick with my gutless E30 318i.
Alpina B5 GT
@@tomdornieden4053 I get your point, but I respectfully disagree. Sure, a car can be heavy and still drive very well, Porsche and BMW are very good with chassis conception and tuning. But take the same great chassis, remove 700kg and you have an even better handling car.
The real problem is that it costs more to remove weight than add power and hybrid systems to meet emissions regulations. And it's not just a problem about batteries, if you take only the petrol M5s in the graph here you can see how much they just gained weight over the generations...
@@Abrvpt Most of the weight comes from the growth in size and safety. The M3 is the new old M5 I guess. Performance hybrids are interesting tho. The new 992.2 Carrera GTS is a really cool concept I think as the increase in weight isn’t that big.
Give me the previous CS all day every day
That green and bronze spec 🤤
For me, doesn't even have to be a CS, I'm perfectly okay with the regular F90 M5 over this everyday of the week.
All everyone talks about is emissions, but NOBODY talks about the fact that heavier cars produce more microplastics from heavier tyre usage, and that they wear out the road surface SIGNIFICANTLY more than lighter cars (the relation between car weight and road wear is exponential, this means if a car is 2x heavier, it will wear out the road surface 16 TIMES MORE).
Is this why there are even more pots holes than before?
You expect lawmakers to think through a situation thoroughly? Nah just buzzwords and trend of the week so that they appear busy. It's a joke
@@rudySTi i don't, clearly. I just hate the hypocrisy of it. This whole emissions stuff prevents fun small, light and cheap cars from being made, as manufacturers try to sideskirt the regulations by building these monsters that few can afford. This effectively kills off any semblance of hope for young petrolheads.
Bro people don’t know yet that electric cars aren’t that ecofriendy because mostly electricity production ain’t too green and there’s still no clue what people should do with used car batteries, which contains very harmful components for earth and planet in overall. So I don’t even know when will they find out that hybrids also ain’t that good for the environment as manufacturers say.
1) the microplastics emitted from heavier EVs pale in environmental impact compared to ghg emissions from ice vehicles 2) many plug-in/EV manufacturers are creating tires with less rolling resistance ---> less tire wear
3) gas cars are getting in the same weight class as industry leader EVs - who use lighter batteriers with less rare metals(like LFP batteries), meaning that this problem would be happening regardless of whether the industry shifted to EVs
There's no debate that ev cars are better for the environment, but yeah, the driving experience will be compromised until EV manufacturers figure out how to engage drivers at the same level with the disadvantage of having no sound. However, this will probably happen as current EVs are focusing on this(Hyundia Ioniq 5n).
Edit - yeah idk why BMW made this car so shit. If you make it heavier, you need to put more power. Seems like they got lazy and didn't bother to develop on their engine or come up with lighter motors so they could put more.
Finally an improved grill from the suv. Tysm bmw for listening
Its not perfect but a change in the right direction
Please improve it more in 2026
Exam: Define perfection
Me: F90 M5
CS*
Agree broo
Perfection=rs6 avant
@@95VR407FA5 maybe prefer sedan or fastback i dont like it wagon
Brrrrr. Fails exam.😂
3:30 LOOKS LIKE A FREAKIN KIA 😭😭
Dude, Stinger looks miles better than this PoS
Bro why did u mention this. Now it's stuck in my head😂
Kia is far better bro that's wild take
KIAs are designed by a former BMW designer.
💀💀💀
The M5 is like Elvis. The longer it goes the heavier it gets 🤣🤣🤣
And just like Elvis, the M5 is dead but BMW refuses to believe it. 😄
Like every bmw car in the last 10 years…. No one likes the design at launch… but we’ll all grow to like it with time 😂
Buggati: makes the hybrid even lighter. BMW: We don't do that here
Way different 😂 bmw appeals to mass market. Bugatti is aimed for the ultra rich who want a hyper car
Thats one stupid way of comparing bugatti is a expensive car with rare expensive materials
totally different cars, plus is Bugatti non Buggati..
@@Tombradyjockstrapbut this looks like an accord from the back 🤢 🤮
@@eeyore077 Sorry, I spent like 10 seconds on this comment, probably same as BMW on reducing the M5's weight.
How did Carwow reveal the brand new BMW M5 before BMW themselves 😅
BMW actually revealed it on their IG at 8 mins ago😅
BMW already did
They did reveal few minutes on BMW M channel
Not too bright are you? Did you check other media channels before commenting here LOL
@@blackpanda7612 He is a car dependent BMW fanboy. Be kind to him.
Old is gold
I quite like it. BMW has always pushed the envelope in design.
At this rate, the average sports car in 2050 will weigh 5 tons
lol
yeah u will need a special drivers licence for new cars 🤣🤣🤣
in 2050, the car industry will have killed itself going in this direction. A bit like Detroit 30 years ago.
Yeah but even non hybrid cars gain weight. Is that because BMW is too cheap to spend money on the most weight optimized design? or is that crash test regulations are at play?
Bro there won't be any cars in 2050. The eco fascists will have us riding bicycles and eating bugs by then.
Correction - **570KG’s heavier
F90 - 1,865 vs New M5 - 2435
So the power to weight is worse than the old one…. Jesus.
@@ScottPCeven worse than the f10 lol
@@ScottPCeven worse than in F10
God damn 💀
Nahhh man its heavier than my dads suv 😭
Forget the sprint times, it's in the corners that the additional weight will really make its presence felt.
Stability and traction control gonna be kicking at all times💀 Tyre wear gonna be horrific on this one
This thing is so fat it's almost as heavy as a Rolls Royce
@@JackV-tw8bw they can try to use all the tricks they want to try and disguise the hefty weight penalty but it's not happening. 500kg is just way too much.
@@Tshegofatso......How many years have we seen X5 M & X6 M on the Nurburgring?
I don’t understand the hate. Some people just can’t accept the fact design changes. To me this is definitely BMW but they still managed to keep it BMW. I like they didn’t go with the wacky design of the 7 series etc. I think this is a great update the M5.
The design is just bad, it doesn't flow. Put it next to f90 M5 and look them from any angle u want, front, side profile or rear. F90 looks so much better and follows a design language on all of its parts.
New m5 has boxy front and rear but the roof line and rear quarter panels make it look kinda round and fat. It just doesn't work
It looks bad, hybrid system makes it more complicated, it's really heavy, slower than previous generation.
They are going to loose a lot of sales.
The old m5 is beating dis
I would rather have this tbh
Honestly wtf have BMW designers been smoking recently??
Fr the f chassis is the last good looking bmws
@@Rease-i3n The last good looking indeed. I agree. But not the last good driving ones. I want to say the last generation with nice steering feel was the E90. The last great steering feel might be the Z4M Coupe. From 2009....
Kia took the good ones. Not even playing.
It makes the M3 look… handsome. I’m absolutely shocked.
M2*
Nah the M3 front end is really fucked up.this M5 is infinite times better than G8X bmw
Looks much better than the F90 IMO; more aggressive stance without the big rabbit’s teeth grill of the G8x and the new tech inside looks good too. The only disappointment is the slower claimed acceleration time. There is going to come a time where road legal cars just don’t need to be made any faster; maybe we are already there.
Nah, this is the best looking new m car by a mile
May god forgives us for laughing at MB
catering to mercedes customers while not being mercedes instead of trying to upgrade the almost perfect f90
Exactly what i was thinking, the f90 is just gorgeous from every angle, inside and out, they managed to ruin all of that...just incredible...
As a former F90 owner, I was hoping to be impressed by the new gen. Safe to say I won’t be considering this M5 anytime soon.
F90 is peak M5 performance and look wise.
@@steven_taylor_ Agreed. Will never be topped.
@@APJ4 Some will say the E60 M5 is more emotional to drive because of the V10 but in reality it's a ticking time bomb. I also like the F10 M5 30 Jahre Edition.
@@steven_taylor_I’ve had both, positives and negatives personally I like the F more simply because of how it drives and increased comfort levels. Having said that obviously the sound is better from the E. Not a ticking time bomb though it breaks you rebuild it😏
F90 CS is sexy
James: "Plugs are for butts."
+500 kg
Carbon fiber roof -3 kg
BMW: "Phew! We saved it!"
And pay 5000€ for that extra -3kg😂
@@jojajo2707 Aka €833.333 to the extra -500 kg.
I'd make it straight carbon as a whole, make the front look a bit more aggressive and less like it's gasping for air
The more we look at it.... the more potential we see.
The two of the best decisions I ever made in life: Keeping the last production 2018 F30 340i spec'd out, and a 2023 F90 M5.
Getting that F90 M5 was prob the best decision ever. I am beyond disappointed in BMW.
Best decision I made was selling my F90 M5 Comp
that 340i is gonna shoot up in price
@@dcskinxu never had one kiddy
@@Robwra320 Ok.
EU + Inflations destroyed the whole car industry.
the peak for cars were 2010-2022. all got downhill after
fr i cant even get my hands on a 2008 golf tdi in the EU bro
Every car CEO went crazy when the Tesla skyrocketed and started copying all the terrible ideas. Now that the stock is down, they are rolling back. I bet we won't have a European car industry soon enough. It'll all be Chinese
@@some______guy facts
@@some______guyeurope already scared and starting to embrace protectionism 😂
So basically, the F90 is the final generation of the M5. There, I saved you some time.
They killed the M5 heritage .
500 extra kg for 100 more hp, totally worth it lol
heavier then an f150 truck lmfao
Is this sarcasm?
@@cosmincristea9275ya think?
@@cosmincristea9275 yes
And it's ugly for an m5. This looks like a 5 series
It's official, cars have peaked and now they're devolving
80% of buyers dont really care weight etc, i bet this will sell well
@@senoow4215it’s disgusting pal
nah, just BMWs
Everything peaked before covid
To be able to drive an M5 in 2040 you will need a truck driving licence
The F90 M5 CS is gonna cost around 150,000 pounds because of this thing.
Said it years ago. The M5 cs is the last proper M. The pinnacle of what a luxury performance sedan could be.
That car is a Dream
Carwow should do a head to head with the F90 CS when it’s released
Oh yessss, they will and f90cs will smoke yhe new one😂
M5 cs is the best M5 ever.
BMW's car design is evolving, just backwards.
There's a word for that. "Devolve". Lol.
@@T3merityyou fool. You’re just not cultured enough to know what bays referencing
Degrading
Disgusting
Bmw should find a new designer to replace their new designer
The News: Manhattan bridge collapsed
An eye witness: two M5 were doing donuts
😂
We got a cybertruck m5 before gta 6
Never opened a video so fast
And been so disappointed.
Sadly it doesnt catch me as a petrolhead, but it is a good product for the market
This is not an M5. It is a cow with an electric motor attached.
9:01 Wow that cold start is shocking. My cat sounds louder. And I dont have a cat.
this looks like a gaming computer
BMW, really knows how to make their older cars look sexier and appreciate in value 😂
how the hell does this weigh just 20 kg less than a bloody x7
Where is this car gonna turn? Into the lake? Into the wall? In to the sea? Surely not gonna turn on the Road...
it's a M5 brother keep it in mind 😉
Geesus if you towed a caravan fully loaded you’d need a HGV license.
😮
My eyes hurt, i swear
Edit : I'm sorry, WHAT THE F*CK? 2.5 TONS, JESUS.
heavier then an f150 truck lmfao
Can't wait 3 tons😂
Mercedes may have downsized their engines, but they still made it faster than the previous generation.
🤷
Fisting the exhaust pipe is wild 😂
M5 is very much like Connor McGreggor, once a great athlete, now just about the bling bling.
I appreciate the reference, but you gotta spell the guy's name right at least 😅
yep its more like it was khabib and now in 2024 it has become mcgregor 🤣
Which car would be Khabib?
never thought id see the day Mat would fist a M5