President Snow & Plutarch Heavensbee Political Discussion Scenes | Hunger Games Catching Fire

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  • Every scene where head gamemaker Plutarch Heavensbee talks to President Coriolanus Snow about Katniss and her role as the Mockingjay in the Rebellion. Includes the deleted scene about the Jabberjays
    #HungerGames #PresidentSnow #CatchingFire
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  • @HenhousetheRed
    @HenhousetheRed 2 роки тому +6003

    Plutarch played Snow like a fiddle as gamemaker. He posed himself as someone just as cunning as Snow, just as ambitious, just as in control; a man equally if not more ruthless. It swept Snow off his feet, made him lower his guard and open to suggestion. The acting here is superb.

    • @NormDeMoss
      @NormDeMoss Рік тому +265

      Reminds me of Azula from Avatar, but obviously Plutarch is heroic instead of vile.
      "You were never even a player."
      Snow was savvy, knew much of politics, but his hold on power died when he leaned too far into his own sense of superiority.

    • @Ay-xq7mj
      @Ay-xq7mj Рік тому +41

      @@NormDeMoss Thing is is whole big brain plan would have lead to Coin in power no better possibly worse than snow.

    • @crystallxix1493
      @crystallxix1493 Рік тому

      @@Ay-xq7mj im guessing that he was gambling on Coin not being an asshole

    • @nolamedgirl
      @nolamedgirl 9 місяців тому +149

      @@Ay-xq7mj Plutarch said in the end that he expected Coin to take care of her. It was in her letter. Regardless, I am sure Plutarch would have gotten rid of Coin one way or another even without Katniss. If he can play Snow, surely he can play Coin. lol

    • @seancollins7447
      @seancollins7447 8 місяців тому +11

      Snow would still poisoned him later on.

  • @teejay5432
    @teejay5432 6 місяців тому +1494

    I just like to imagine Plutarch closing the door and immediately breaking into a sprint to the hovercraft while swearing 😅

  • @joewhitehead3
    @joewhitehead3 Рік тому +2557

    Gotta admire Plutarch. He was playing Snow the whole time & Snow never even suspected

    • @AllAboutPurple
      @AllAboutPurple Рік тому +51

      Boss moves 🙏🏾🙏🏾

    • @thedrinkinggamemaker9749
      @thedrinkinggamemaker9749 5 місяців тому +3

      2,100th like 👍

    • @Dank951
      @Dank951 5 місяців тому +19

      I’ve noticed in every film/book involving a dictator Like Snow, it’s always the brutal sweet talk that wins them over. They always want to be “one up’d” on their ideas. Plutarch was perfect for that.

    • @zenitsuthunder3946
      @zenitsuthunder3946 4 місяці тому +10

      Professor Snape to Voldemort vibes

    • @joewhitehead3
      @joewhitehead3 4 місяці тому +6

      @@zenitsuthunder3946 Good comparison. Didn’t think of that

  • @DivinePearl
    @DivinePearl Рік тому +3539

    I really enjoyed Plutarch in this series. He played his cards exactly, even knew that Katniss would kill Coin. Just an exceptional character.

    • @uhfanzonly
      @uhfanzonly 9 місяців тому +143

      And they say nobody wins the games.

    • @johnroach9026
      @johnroach9026 8 місяців тому

      Plutarch is obviously setting himself up to rule Panem - at least behind the curtain. He's the media director, which means he can effectively dictate all information flow, and produce propaganda such that he will always win elections

    • @wickdaline8668
      @wickdaline8668 7 місяців тому +78

      He's like Peter Baelish from Game of Thrones but on the good side.

    • @CommonSenz
      @CommonSenz 6 місяців тому +52

      @@wickdaline8668 So Varys..

    • @samu1414
      @samu1414 6 місяців тому +66

      He didn't know Katniss would kill Coin, he just didn't care. Plutarch doesn't even get any kind of upgraded position from Coin's death, although there's some minor implications that Plutarch didn't like her

  • @04nbod
    @04nbod 6 місяців тому +449

    It all makes sense now. Lucy Gray was the Jabberjay. He made her into this icon, then he tried to kill her but she escaped. A consequence of his neglect out of his control. And now Katniss is her legacy. The mockingjay, repeating Lucy Gray's song.

    • @sagestrings869
      @sagestrings869 5 місяців тому +27

      No Lucy is the mockingbird, snow would be the jabber jay. And because of their actions katniss would set off the revolution.

    • @dmf1301
      @dmf1301 17 днів тому

      Katniss and Lucy Gray had almost nothing in common as people… but the one thing they both had was the power to set the world on fire.
      Neither girl sought it… she just had it.

  • @Trenchcoat3
    @Trenchcoat3 2 роки тому +3905

    I love how much more respect he demands, even from someone as powerful as Snow, compared to the first Gamemaker. You can tell Snow seems to respect him and his opinions, while the previous guy seemed inexperienced and was scolded and lectured to like a child, this guy nearly comes off as an equal at certain points. Wonderful acting.

    • @ericwilson6994
      @ericwilson6994 8 місяців тому +11

      KatnissEverdeen1979 representing district 1 Temple Grandin representing district 1.... the rebellion is spreading! We will rebuild the Jedi Order!

    • @angelrios5897
      @angelrios5897 7 місяців тому +47

      Seneca Crane was a new gamemaster, and was executed for his failings.

    • @alanmichael5619
      @alanmichael5619 7 місяців тому +35

      @@angelrios5897 Well, technically, it was Seneca Crane's 3rd games. So not exactly new.

    • @CommonSenz
      @CommonSenz 6 місяців тому +49

      we shall see in the prequel, that Heavensbee is a powerful family name in the Capitol.

    • @thearcanamodernau8130
      @thearcanamodernau8130 6 місяців тому +30

      but it's understandable. Seneca Crane was much younger and his domain was spectacle, not politics. Plutarch was much closer to Snow and had been around the powerful people at the Capitol for far longer.

  • @jackspry9736
    @jackspry9736 2 роки тому +1214

    RIP Philip Seymour Hoffman (July 23, 1967 - February 2, 2014), aged 46
    You will be remembered as a legend.

    • @multifanderisverycrafty
      @multifanderisverycrafty 9 місяців тому +44

      I fucking miss him so much

    • @m3m3lord61
      @m3m3lord61 9 місяців тому +26

      Rip to him. I saw him in Charlie Wilson’s war he was great playing a CIA agent too

    • @ignoremymundanelife7511
      @ignoremymundanelife7511 8 місяців тому +16

      I wish Philip was still alive 😢 💔 he could have played more legendary characters

    • @vitesse_arnhem
      @vitesse_arnhem 8 місяців тому

      Heroin is evil, and all drug heads should be imprisoned

    • @MrTsiolkovsky
      @MrTsiolkovsky 8 місяців тому +10

      Thanks for the comment. Anyone reading this, please consider watching The Master. Exquisite tour de force by PSH and Joaquin Phoenix.

  • @avanderwolf49
    @avanderwolf49 6 місяців тому +678

    I love how Plutarch also played on how paranoid and stressed Snow was getting. Plutarch’s ambitious yet calm and collected demeanor gained respected.

  • @dalfman9270
    @dalfman9270 6 місяців тому +510

    I love that at around 0:57 Snow gives this exacerbated sigh and head roll. He thinks he's dealing with another fool like Senecca. But then his head quickly turns back to Plutarch as his attention is caught back. Before Plutarch's betrayal Snow evidently came to trust and/or even admire him

    • @chrishandsome9320
      @chrishandsome9320 6 місяців тому +38

      Also the head shaking at 0:42 I love the detail of Snow changing his mind.

    • @dalfman9270
      @dalfman9270 6 місяців тому

      Oh yeah that's a good one too@@chrishandsome9320

  • @h_nt_r
    @h_nt_r 8 місяців тому +957

    I forgot how this movie was easily one of the best book adaptations we've ever seen from Hollywood.

    • @Lewlew97
      @Lewlew97 7 місяців тому +128

      I guess because Suzanne Collins was involved in writing the screenplay. The best adaptations always include the original writer’s input.

    • @timothydavidcurp
      @timothydavidcurp 7 місяців тому +22

      So far, so good with the new Dune...

    • @sabergater174
      @sabergater174 6 місяців тому +3

      she wasn't actually, she cowrote the script for the first film but not for the rest

    • @vokasimid5330
      @vokasimid5330 6 місяців тому

      A to the Meeen

    • @cosmicusstardust3300
      @cosmicusstardust3300 6 місяців тому +1

      No, there are many others like Harry Potter and Lord of the Rings to name a few

  • @Brandonian
    @Brandonian 2 роки тому +1636

    Plutarch was playing devils advocate here. Since his inception, from book or film. Listen to what Plutarch said: “make her one of us!” Plutarch motives were always shrouded in mystery. Plutarch was also furiously ambitious. He straight up betrays Snow. He’s betraying Snow right now, and Snow had no damn idea. This was a good scene. He kept persuading Snow to wait. Snow could have done it, but he tell into Plutarch’s trap 🪤. Beautiful.

    • @ericwilson6994
      @ericwilson6994 8 місяців тому +2

      KatnissEverdeen1979 representing district 1 Temple Grandin representing district 1.... the rebellion is spreading! We will rebuild the Jedi Order!

    • @milesjolly6173
      @milesjolly6173 5 місяців тому +3

      @@ericwilson6994what

    • @ericwilson6994
      @ericwilson6994 5 місяців тому

      @@milesjolly6173 It's a real game vampires play on Mars 2033 Temple Grandin Representing District 1 to free the souls of hell

    • @michaelreardon303
      @michaelreardon303 11 днів тому

      Brilliant!

  • @jimmymcgill7370
    @jimmymcgill7370 5 місяців тому +61

    Snow wanted a smarter gamemaker… he got his wish LOL

    • @joewhitehead3
      @joewhitehead3 3 місяці тому +1

      He wanted a smart one who agreed with him

  • @edercortes1960
    @edercortes1960 Рік тому +826

    And this is why I enjoyed catching Fire more than the other sequels. It’s not about the all star game with the victors is about the backstage politics of both president snow and Katniss behind the scenes

    • @nerdy_1439
      @nerdy_1439 Рік тому +29

      Than you have Plutarch as a complex game maker and puppet master.

    • @ivanflorinez9337
      @ivanflorinez9337 Рік тому +3

      Exactly

    • @blaze6477
      @blaze6477 6 місяців тому +9

      And people who say MJ part 1 is underrated because it was a political thriller miss the fact that it was just Katniss looking at screens for like 5 scenes over and over without much substance happening making it boring and dull. Unlike Catching Fire.

    • @rogueproductions9011
      @rogueproductions9011 6 місяців тому +1

      CF was my favorite as well. Love how it becomes so much grander than the first HG

  • @georgesaddington1274
    @georgesaddington1274 Рік тому +1280

    The story of the Mockingjay is such a brilliant metaphor for the rebellion against the Capitol. Certain people left the Capitol (Jabberjays) when they realised how evil and oppressive the system was and sympathised and joined forces with the Districts (Mockingbirds) to create a force with the resources and numbers to take on a sustained counter attack

    • @ericwilson6994
      @ericwilson6994 8 місяців тому

      KatnissEverdeen1979 representing district 1 Temple Grandin representing district 1.... the rebellion is spreading! We will rebuild the Jedi Order!

    • @SH-zh8eh
      @SH-zh8eh 6 місяців тому +10

      I'm also thinking as the ballad of songbirds and snakes have come out too that the movking jaya metaphor can also refer to and that is if Katniss is related to Lucy Gray that maybe while corio left the capital and fell in love with Lucy they had a child so like a jabberjay leaving the capital and mating with a movking bird to create the mockingjay and eventually Katniss.

    • @deborahminter6231
      @deborahminter6231 6 місяців тому

      What are you talking about?

    • @ethanweeter2732
      @ethanweeter2732 6 місяців тому

      And makes more sense in the prequel, or I thought the prequel addresses that very well.

    • @ethanweeter2732
      @ethanweeter2732 6 місяців тому

      @@SH-zh8ehNo, he would be too old to be her father, maybe her grandpa.

  • @OfficialAshArcher
    @OfficialAshArcher 6 місяців тому +276

    PSH absolutely nailed Plutarch. He was the smartest one of them all, a master game maker. He fooled them all, even Coin and Snow.

    • @charlespettit7149
      @charlespettit7149 6 місяців тому +18

      He is honestly such a great actor and missed I love seeing him when I rewatch stuff or watch movies I haven't seen before

    • @kevinthunder3375
      @kevinthunder3375 4 місяці тому +1

      I'm still angry at him and Paylor for covering up Coin's crimes and banishing Katniss, making her out to be a mentally unstable disgrace. Ruined her reputation.

  • @rob548
    @rob548 6 місяців тому +122

    The last thing Plutarch says to Snow is "make yourself comfortable." The two had entirely different interpretations of that line.

    • @jessicacaron5084
      @jessicacaron5084 6 місяців тому +8

      Wait what did he really mean? “Enjoy your last days before you die?”

    • @kevinthunder3375
      @kevinthunder3375 4 місяці тому +10

      ​@@jessicacaron5084I myself was thinking more along the lines of "Relax and let your guard down. It's going to be a wild ride."

  • @cirrusB612
    @cirrusB612 Рік тому +440

    Ahhhh, I'm always so curious about the movie-only's. They totally set up Plutarch to be a secret villain, possibly worse than Snow, but no one knew what side he was on unless they read the book.

    • @blarbkanopcious4243
      @blarbkanopcious4243 8 місяців тому +12

      What are you talking about? The last scene of this very video shows him being an integral part of the revolution.

    • @cirrusB612
      @cirrusB612 8 місяців тому +79

      @@blarbkanopcious4243Oh yes! Absolutely. But that scene takes place at the end of the movie. It isn't until the end that the audience is supposed to realize Plutarch is something of a double agent. I've even had people tell me they didn't fully trust him until they saw the third movie. For most of the movie, Plutarch is seen scheming with Snow--actually, most of this very video shows him giving ideas to subdue Katniss. Those who hadn't read the books had every right to be suspicious and downright distrustful of Plutarch. Those who read the book knew every suggestion to Snow had a double meaning, all for the rebels' eventual success.

    • @blarbkanopcious4243
      @blarbkanopcious4243 8 місяців тому +11

      @@cirrusB612 Ohhh I see what you what you mean, I’m sorry.
      I assumed you were talking about each of book-firsters’ and movie-firsters’ experiences of whichever Catching Fire they read/watched first, but you were actually talking about each of their experiences of watching Catching Fire the movie. My bad completely.
      I’ve read and watched all the Hunger Games, but I watched the movies first, so I had the experience you described watching Catching Fire, but then knew all along who Plutarch was reading it. My dad, also a movie-firster, actually figured out Plutarch was a rebel before it was revealed, which was pretty cool.
      I’m curious, you as a book-firster, what did you think of Plutarch your first time reading Catching Fire before it was made clear he was a rebel?

    • @jackdaone6469
      @jackdaone6469 8 місяців тому +15

      Agreed. Phillip Seymour-Hoffman played Plutarch like a master. I've never read beyond the first book(which was quite good), but I have seen all of the movies. All the way up until the final twist, I figured that Heavensbee was a villain considerably more cunning than Seneca. Turned out he was playing Snow like a fiddle the whole time.

    • @cirrusB612
      @cirrusB612 8 місяців тому +5

      @@blarbkanopcious4243 I never really understood him, I don't think. Plutarch isn't as involved in the book as he is in the movie, though I imagine that now I could re-read the book and see the entire arena as an extension of Plutarch's will. But I will say that when that mockingjay flashed on his watch, I knew that he was on Katniss' side. Maybe not a rebel himself, but on her side as a supporter, like Effie, kinda. He was still Head Gamemaker, though, which meant that at the end of the day, he was still under Snow's order. So I kinda shrugged and hoped that his meeting with Katniss would mean something by the end of the book. Glad I was right.

  • @benjaminbierley2074
    @benjaminbierley2074 7 місяців тому +221

    He was a master at reading people, and he sells Snow on the idea that he isn't so that Snow keeps some sense of superiority while also being able to write off the escalation the plays are causing as miscalculations. He presents himself as still competent and savvy enough to listen to despite those "slip-ups". In Snow's case, this meant talking to him on the same level, whereas many of Snow's underlings didn't present the same cerebral competence Plutarch offered him.
    I am pretty sure he had Coin's number too, even though Coin played her more ruthless traits much more low-key than Snow. Plutarch knew the arch Snow would take, and even without Katniss probably was contemplating the right move and time to deal with her.

  • @Sal_Mansoor3006
    @Sal_Mansoor3006 6 місяців тому +88

    Plutarch in reality had the same character of snow but actually had the peoples interests at heart so basically a good version of snow

    • @kristinechui3846
      @kristinechui3846 Місяць тому

      Era en lo que la nieve se pudo haber convertido

  • @JaySwag300
    @JaySwag300 9 місяців тому +93

    Plutarch Heavensbee! Plutarch Heavensbee! He called his name like he was gonna whoop him lmao funniest scene to me 😂

    • @jessicacaron5084
      @jessicacaron5084 6 місяців тому +1

      Also when his proxies call the names of the tributes they always come when called, not anymore

    • @katiel7166
      @katiel7166 13 днів тому +1

      Ha, it sounds like he would've used his middle name too if he knew it

  • @kostephan9442
    @kostephan9442 2 роки тому +248

    PSH as an actor had a real skill for making trivial or even mundane dialogue seem so fucking captivating…god damn he was so beautifully brilliant.

  • @ashleyelisabeth4
    @ashleyelisabeth4 6 місяців тому +65

    It's very interesting that Snow didn't suspect Plutarch of treachery considering how much they think alike. But maybe that's why he didn't see it coming because if he saw himself and Plutarch as one of the same, then he believed he wouldn't dare associate himself with the other districts. Further proving by Snow's viewpoint on the other districts versus the capitol in the prequel.

  • @earlydaydreamer9720
    @earlydaydreamer9720 5 місяців тому +20

    no matter how smart someone is, they can still be outsmarted

    • @TheWPhilosopher
      @TheWPhilosopher 5 місяців тому +2

      Ironically the smarter the person, with power, the easier it is to trip them up as they gain arrogance.

    • @amitkenan3878
      @amitkenan3878 4 місяці тому +2

      @@TheWPhilosopher Tywin is an example of this. He underestimates the threat of Daenerys (even Joffrey said they should act against her). He also didn't think Jamie would try to save his beloved brother

  • @tjjordan4207
    @tjjordan4207 8 місяців тому +89

    The very end when Katniss shoots the arrow at the ceiling and knocks out the power, people in the theater started clapping.

    • @MrKingYuji
      @MrKingYuji 8 місяців тому +7

      Mine too!

    • @kevinthunder3375
      @kevinthunder3375 4 місяці тому

      Still not sure why the power went out, though. Maybe Plutarch? The arenas are elsewhere, spread across the country and aren't in the Capitol, and the Gamemakers aren't right next door.

    • @scaryghost5721
      @scaryghost5721 3 місяці тому +2

      ​@@kevinthunder3375because of the Force Field, the entire arena have massive Force Field and this takes a lot of energy.
      In the training center scene, Beetee (District 3 tribute who won by electrocute all of his enemy and also designed so many tech that was used by the Capitol) he mentioned to Katniss about the flickering because Force Field takes alot of energy.
      His original plan we're to stuck a wire into the Force Field and when the lightning hit it gonna short-circuit the entire arena for a hovercraft to pick them up, but he electrocute himself when he try to push a log with wires into the force field thats why he passed out just like when Petaa hitting the Force Field.

    • @kevinthunder3375
      @kevinthunder3375 3 місяці тому

      @@scaryghost5721 yes, but presumably the Arena was in a completely different part of the country so it wouldn't rely on the same power grid or whatever. Or shouldn't. Talk about a major infrastructure flaw.

  • @jakenoltensmeyer7366
    @jakenoltensmeyer7366 7 місяців тому +111

    We know Katniss visited Snow after the rebels defeated the Capitol but I wonder if Plutarch ever did as well. It would be interesting to see one last discussion between them at the end of it all.

    • @thatperformer3879
      @thatperformer3879 6 місяців тому +30

      I suspect Plutarch realized it was Coin who killed Prim and didn’t want to upset Katniss by planting any ideas in her head, rather he simply let Snow convince her of the truth and for her to piece together on her own. Plutarch said himself that the Mockingjay won’t take suggestions from anyone.

    • @sarasamaletdin4574
      @sarasamaletdin4574 5 місяців тому +2

      @thatperformer3879
      I think the other person was wondering if Snow and Plutarch talked themselves, not with Katniss

  • @rhymeswith_dungeons2405
    @rhymeswith_dungeons2405 4 місяці тому +9

    At 5:33 "Sir, we've lost power!" Love the double meaning 💥💥💥🔌💥💥💥👑

    • @amitkenan3878
      @amitkenan3878 4 місяці тому

      I imagine Plutarch saying "checkmate"😂

  • @futuremovieactor
    @futuremovieactor 6 місяців тому +63

    You see how Plutarch even with the side he's on could've easily turned into Gaul or Coriolanus Snow, but he didn't. Not just because he's so much smarter than both and not sadistic either, but because he recognizes that with both good and evil, there's a fine line that while 100% peace can never truly be achieved, compromises to assure a legit peace that could possibly LAST is the preferable goal. Plutarch has a patience, compassion and meticulousness that allows him to plan, think and then execute his schemes to incredible success way more than anymore else and thus why he ultimately wins in the end: by establishing both an authority and foot-hole in diplomatic interest that even if not satisfying everyone, can at least be far more acceptable than what came before under any circumstances too.

  • @FerretJohn
    @FerretJohn 2 роки тому +323

    Ruling others is like holding a small bird, hold it too loosely and it flies away, hold too tight and it chokes and dies. All rulers need to be feared a little but Fear alone is a terrible tool for rulership, it breeds obedience but not loyalty. The moment the ruler shows any sign of weakness, the moment they push their followers to the point where they know they have nothing more to lose, then they're done.

    • @geminiangel63
      @geminiangel63 Рік тому +10

      Hence why the Capitol looks like pride month all year long it’s either accept their truth or get the hell out if you think any differently expect violence from their peaceful peacekeepers I mean peaceful protesters 😂 this movie made me scared of the future and now it’s slowly coming true 😅

    • @fabplays6559
      @fabplays6559 11 місяців тому +29

      @@geminiangel63 We are not your enemy. We are just like you. Just because we decide to express ourselves differently, or believe different things, or love different people or identify a different way... does not mean we are your enemy. These things are superficial and ultimately meaningless in the face of what really matters.
      Violence is not okay, but you seem to only be seeing the violence being done on those who you interpret as your "tribe" by those you interpret as your "enemy". There is violence being done on all manners of people for all kinds of nonsensical and flat out insane reasons.
      But there are very, very clever people who prey on your (and my own) natural instinct to make enemies out of others. These instincts are there to protect us but they are incredibly misleading and often blind people to the ultimate truth that we are not enemies. I wish you no harm, and I sure as hell hope that you don't wish me any. I think you're angry at the concept of LGBTQ+ people, but if you got to know many individuals who fit under those labels you would find that you aren't able to hate us as strongly as before. There are people in all sorts of demographics who are violent towards those they don't agree with, that is one of the biggest failings of humanity.
      But ultimately, the political focus on queer people (ESPECIALLY transgender people) right now is a manipulation tactic. There are some very clever people who are trying to deflect attention away from something huge. The spotlight on trans people right now is unusually intense. It wouldn't be the first time in history politicians used a particular group of people as a scapegoat for their own gains. Please, regardless of what you believe, do not fall into the trap of letting yourself get so angry you can't see certain people as people anymore. And believe you me, no matter how kind or intelligent a person is, it is so easy to fall into that trap. You could easily be caught in it right now and not realise.
      Anyway, do not fear the future that does not yet exist. Let's be the sort of people who help build the kind of future that benefits all and ensures everyone's safety and freedom is maintained, regardless of personal beliefs or (meaningless) labels. We might not be able to control everything, but we CAN control ourselves and how we respond to and treat others. So we can start from there.

    • @geminiangel63
      @geminiangel63 11 місяців тому +8

      @@fabplays6559 I’m bisexual and used to be on the left, part of the LGBTQ community, pro choice, and believed I was oppressed because I was brown so I was a full left wing liberal however their behavior pushed me more conservative 😅 so I stand by my statement this is our future and I hope to be dead before it gets like this

    • @devchekhov7512
      @devchekhov7512 10 місяців тому +24

      @@geminiangel63If all it takes is a few bad apples for you to disavow marriage equality and equal protection under the law, that's pretty sad😂

    • @geminiangel63
      @geminiangel63 10 місяців тому +2

      @@devchekhov7512 went over your head huh?

  • @hothotheat3000
    @hothotheat3000 6 місяців тому +64

    This series is so well-acted. How they got such quality performers, I’ll never know, but I’m grateful.

  • @danielpinzow3900
    @danielpinzow3900 6 місяців тому +29

    Philip Seymour Hoffman and Donald Sutherland absolutely nailed their scenes

  • @DVDTAPEAFKs
    @DVDTAPEAFKs 9 місяців тому +117

    I have to admire Plutarch
    he ended 2 leaders by getting Katniss out of the Arena and gaslighting Snow

  • @burneraccount2345
    @burneraccount2345 Рік тому +227

    Am I correct that what Plutarch was trying to do was get the people in the districts more riled up?

    • @shadowcastyt
      @shadowcastyt Рік тому +112

      That's apart of it, he needed the districts involved for the revolution to work but he also needed Katniss to be the Mockingjay because of her rebellious nature and being loved by the people

    • @fort809
      @fort809 8 місяців тому +46

      Yes. Snow was completely correct from the first scene, kill the hope

    • @jackdaone6469
      @jackdaone6469 8 місяців тому +15

      @@fort809
      And hell, Plutarch's plans for Snow could have worked. If Katniss had killed Finnick, then Plutarch's predictions would have likely come true. But she didn't, and that was the crucial part.

    • @tompearce5418
      @tompearce5418 6 місяців тому +16

      Yes, he encouraged Snow's natural instincts toward greater brutality to force a general rebellion spearheaded by District 13, which then presented itself as the decent and humane alternative to the Capitol. If Snow had had better advisors he would have started making real concessions before the riots spiralled out of control.

    • @thedrinkinggamemaker9749
      @thedrinkinggamemaker9749 5 місяців тому

      ​@@tompearce5418what kind of concessions?

  • @ArchTeryx00
    @ArchTeryx00 7 місяців тому +53

    "Galaxy-brained" is normally an insult, but in the case of Plutarch Heavensbee it's the absolute truth. This dude was a lot more a *chessmaster* than a gamemaster, and he completely and totally buffaloed Snow. He was making suggestions that sounded like they'd acheive Snow's aims while in fact their carefully hidden purpose was to do the opposite. Snow knew politics and was a ruthless, cunning tyrant, but he made a truly fatal error: He trusted Plutarch when the guy was *already* a rebel, and Snow walked smack into his trap. That's what happens when you get high on your own supply.
    And he saw Coin for what she was a mile away. Snow was very late to that party, too.

  • @mshafer1021
    @mshafer1021 2 роки тому +158

    Plutarch must have found a 300-400 year old copy of Robert Greene’s “48 Laws of Power.”

  • @vinithpalagiri467
    @vinithpalagiri467 2 роки тому +81

    Donald Sutherland is am amazing. actor. He did good portraying Snow. Kiefer should be proud of being his son.

  • @ldy0013
    @ldy0013 Рік тому +398

    They couldn’t have picked better actors for this. Two pros. Peter Dinklage and Viola Davis are going to be the same way in The Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes. Can’t wait to see their compilation.

    • @brennathecatlover4360
      @brennathecatlover4360 8 місяців тому

      Who are they playing?

    • @rachelfox8108
      @rachelfox8108 6 місяців тому +9

      ​@@brennathecatlover4360 Peter Dinklage played Dean Casca Highbottom, and Viola Davis played Head Gamemaker Dr Volumnia Gaul.

    • @Summersong2262
      @Summersong2262 6 місяців тому +7

      This aged beautifully, both of them knocked it out of the park, IMHO.

    • @ldy0013
      @ldy0013 6 місяців тому +1

      @@Summersong2262 100% agree!

  • @BossGaming-vg6zh
    @BossGaming-vg6zh 4 місяці тому +4

    God, I love Plutarchs character. The political deceptions are amazing

  • @Michelrs
    @Michelrs 6 місяців тому +13

    "Sir. We've lost power."

  • @domytube
    @domytube 9 місяців тому +18

    “Moves and countermoves”, I use that in everyday life.

  • @ShatteredxMarie
    @ShatteredxMarie Рік тому +60

    Such a good actor. I miss him so much. Hard to believe this is the sane actor that played Dusty in Twister

    • @23Revan84
      @23Revan84 7 місяців тому

      That is how good an actor is, you give them a role and they make it come to life. That is a true artist.

    • @A-1-800-NINJA
      @A-1-800-NINJA 4 місяці тому

      Melissuh!

  • @robdog1245
    @robdog1245 5 місяців тому +7

    2:33 you can see Plutarch realizing just how off his rocker Snow is. His face says “this guy is batshit crazy.”

  • @finnegangooding7576
    @finnegangooding7576 2 місяці тому +2

    We were so lucky to get Philip Seymour Hoffman in these movies. He brings such depth and personality to a character that could otherwise be overlooked. One of the greatest actors ever

  • @jwiese100
    @jwiese100 6 місяців тому +22

    RIP Phillip Seymore Hoffman. He crushed it in his final roll

  • @ryankwon8785
    @ryankwon8785 Рік тому +84

    We can tell that Lucy Gray and his past with her have resurfaced in Snow's mind.

    • @mramos1126
      @mramos1126 10 місяців тому +7

      Not really

    • @blaze6477
      @blaze6477 6 місяців тому

      ​@@mramos1126they did.

  • @djwillum9551
    @djwillum9551 Рік тому +23

    "the broadcast cut out here" 1 minute later Snow fast forwards through the broadcast

  • @march.7561
    @march.7561 9 місяців тому +39

    THIS was the Games. Nothing that happened in that arena ever mattered. It was about the behind the scenes.

    • @SuperPrestogamer
      @SuperPrestogamer 6 місяців тому +4

      Exactly…and Plutarch was a games maker…the best…So good he even played the president of it like a fiddle

  • @CrazyAlaskanCoDShot
    @CrazyAlaskanCoDShot Рік тому +39

    Now we know what Snow means when he says he was in the districts once...

    • @niyaa9760
      @niyaa9760 6 місяців тому +3

      yeah he used to be a peacekeeper in district 12, its crazy to think how his story would have been different if he hadnt gotten his best friend killed on both accident and purpose 😭

    • @palmtreesmusic1945
      @palmtreesmusic1945 5 місяців тому +4

      Watched the movie yesterday (Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes) and in the beginning, Snow seemed actually a somewhat likeable guy; he did help Lucy win the Games. But even then, he still saw the districts as subhuman and turned on Sejanus.
      Why? Partially for self preservation. For his own survival. But also because of power and control issues. He still has a wrong philosophy as seeing the districts as unruly children to be managed and controlled with brutal means and by his presidency, he is shown to be a snake.

  • @antiocotart
    @antiocotart 2 роки тому +150

    i love that plutarch is working as a spy and he is one of the people. movies theater stories sometimes is a medium for the real times to reach people #reflection #hope #fear

  • @bbranco01
    @bbranco01 8 місяців тому +29

    Like to have a backstory about Plutarch, since his family was very prestigious among the capitol. What turned him?

  • @sarahw1179
    @sarahw1179 6 місяців тому +16

    snow : look at this they're holding hands . i want them dead .
    every single person who is single on valentine's day feels this 😂

    • @jamiengo2343
      @jamiengo2343 5 місяців тому

      Speaking from experience? 😂😂

    • @sarahw1179
      @sarahw1179 5 місяців тому

      @@jamiengo2343 nope . been married for 10 years bestie . nice try being a pos though 😉

    • @jamiengo2343
      @jamiengo2343 5 місяців тому

      @@sarahw1179 I try my best :)

  • @deborahminter6231
    @deborahminter6231 6 місяців тому +12

    😂 At first it looked like their plans kept backfiring...then it turns out he was in on the rebellion and sabotaging Snow the entire time.

  • @charlieboothe7962
    @charlieboothe7962 7 місяців тому +25

    I've never seen that deleted scene before, so that was cool! The dynamic between Snow and Heavensbee is certainly an interesting one! Snow seems to have a great respect for plutarch. It would be interesting to explore how that relationship first developed.

  • @nycot107
    @nycot107 6 місяців тому +12

    Snow is right about Katniss, she doesn't want to be where she is, she just wants the war to end.

  • @jacobwiles547
    @jacobwiles547 2 місяці тому +1

    President Snow was probably thinking to himself, "You're mine now Ms. Everdeen, you to Lucy Gray."

  • @08MrPancakes
    @08MrPancakes 6 місяців тому +9

    I never read the books, but from the end of the series , it seems to imply that he’ll be a power behind the throne under President Paylor’s Presidency

    • @palmtreesmusic1945
      @palmtreesmusic1945 5 місяців тому

      Plutarch became Secretary of Communications after the war.

  • @bunniesandbeheadings3336
    @bunniesandbeheadings3336 2 роки тому +81

    Is Snow’s monologue about the extermination attempt of mockingjays in the movie or is that a deleted scene?

    • @rnsw4572
      @rnsw4572 2 роки тому +52

      It’s a deleted scene yes, it was in the book I’m pretty sure

    • @davidbullock1101
      @davidbullock1101 2 роки тому +4

      About the jabberjays it’s a deleted scene but it’s in the books

    • @andyabajo
      @andyabajo Рік тому +2

      Yeah never remembered I've seen that scene before either.

    • @GreatMewtwo
      @GreatMewtwo Рік тому +5

      Katniss in the books makes mention of how the mockingjay came to be; as mentioned, they were the result of an instrument of espionage flipped on the Capitol, and so the rebels adopted the mockingjay as a last finger to them.

  • @DreiK96
    @DreiK96 Рік тому +30

    Plutarch has a successful basketball career.

  • @tesserae582
    @tesserae582 8 місяців тому +24

    RIP Phillip Seymour Hoffman, you were amazing and played the smartest character in Hunger Games history

  • @ralphintheshadowrealm7002
    @ralphintheshadowrealm7002 6 місяців тому +7

    god I miss Philip Seymour Hoffman. He always elevated everything he was in, even if it was already good without him, he would raise it higher.

  • @MightySheep
    @MightySheep 8 місяців тому +11

    Plutarch reminds me of Steve Bannon so much lol.

  • @ericcook7622
    @ericcook7622 8 місяців тому +12

    He was such a good actor.

  • @s3c0nd1mpact
    @s3c0nd1mpact 6 місяців тому +4

    1:38 "I should know, one time I tricked this dumbass kid I knew named Sejanus into ratting on himself with one."

  • @prickly10000
    @prickly10000 2 роки тому +43

    LET IT FLY MISS EVERDEEN
    *Katniss farts on camera*

  • @kris_pang
    @kris_pang 6 місяців тому

    Two legend like...this is amazing.

  • @thcdelirious1235
    @thcdelirious1235 17 днів тому +1

    Plutarch played Snow so freaking well

  • @Sarahle3
    @Sarahle3 7 місяців тому +65

    Plutarch is a masterful double agent, but he also reminds me of Dumbledore. "I'm going to create a Grand Plan that relies on information that only one or two other people know, and which relies on an extremely long series of lucky breaks to keep alive the one young person I most need to stay alive. If any part of my complex, fragile plan goes wrong, that person will die and the whole plan will fall apart. But this will TOTALLY work because . . . plot armor!"

    • @Loganbub
      @Loganbub 6 місяців тому +11

      I mean I would assume he knew their was a high chance it wouldn’t succeed which is why he put as much ducks in order as he could. He assembled Allies in the tributes and others to help their odds some, he got himself into the highest position below Snow to influence as much as possible. So he probably realized the odds weren’t in their favor but played the game masterfully to give them a better chance.

    • @deborahminter6231
      @deborahminter6231 6 місяців тому

      😂 The magic of fiction!

    • @deborahminter6231
      @deborahminter6231 6 місяців тому +3

      @@Loganbub his plan seemed more feasible and reactionary than Dumbledore's.

    • @zaddyfaye6880
      @zaddyfaye6880 6 місяців тому +4

      i mean, not really. establishing katniss as the mockingjay certainly was his preferred-outcome, but he seemed pretty prepared for her death, too. i dont think it's unfeasible to imagine he wouldve positioned her as a martyr (given a lot of the things he says regarding her sway on the people, and what coin ultimately ends up attempting). nevertheless though, he did a lot more to ensure katniss' safety than dumbledore did harry's. as the comment below u mentions, he and haymitch meticulously-curated allies within the tributes who were prepared to protect katniss and peeta in the arena (we even see this in the case of the female morphling and mags - who literally sacrificed their lives for them). likewise, a lot of his manipulation of snow revolved around stalling for time - the film immediately establishes that snow wanted to kill katniss for her transgressions the second she inspires enough hope in the districts for the rebellion to start to pick up. everytime this happens, plutarch steps in to convince snow to be patient and go along w whatever smear-campaign he proposes for katniss, instead - buying time to get her out and make snow lose track of her before he has the opportunity to execute her

    • @deborahminter6231
      @deborahminter6231 6 місяців тому

      @@zaddyfaye6880 Agreed!

  • @christophermcmanus5103
    @christophermcmanus5103 6 місяців тому +4

    And now i realise how much of Donald Sutherland's heavy breathing they take out in post 😂

  • @ignaciodiaz919
    @ignaciodiaz919 5 місяців тому +7

    I just love to see two of the greatest actors of all time sharing screentime and saying a bunch of sci-fi nonsense

  • @popitforpoppa1682
    @popitforpoppa1682 8 місяців тому +8

    philip seymour hoffman was such a brilliant actor

  • @junkaccount8302
    @junkaccount8302 6 місяців тому +3

    5:02 didn’t realize r2-d2 was in this movie

  • @PERSEUS-NIOR
    @PERSEUS-NIOR 3 місяці тому +1

    Plutarch is THE GAMEMAKER...my man played Snow really well

  • @TheTariqibnziyad
    @TheTariqibnziyad 17 днів тому

    Snow is smart as hell, the fact that he didnt opt for fear at first shows that he has tact

  • @larbear325
    @larbear325 6 місяців тому +20

    It's always so interesting when movies and tv shows have social commentary like this. Because you can look at the real world and it's the exact same thing. Yet we don't even notice/ care when it's right in front of us.

  • @princecharlesrusseldonayre
    @princecharlesrusseldonayre 10 місяців тому +10

    Snow, he's more than brilliant actually.

  • @theilluminatibenefactor
    @theilluminatibenefactor Рік тому +8

    Plutarch is... Phenomenal.

  • @aaroncolonnese282
    @aaroncolonnese282 6 місяців тому +2

    Phillip S-H bodies this 🔥 love his pacing and delivery

  • @bridgetbinion8494
    @bridgetbinion8494 6 місяців тому +2

    Plutarch played Snow so well. And Snow is no slouch.

  • @OKG2000
    @OKG2000 6 місяців тому +2

    Plutarch was the Game Maker for real

  • @jacobwiles547
    @jacobwiles547 11 місяців тому +5

    Mr. Hoffman was so talented!

  • @stsk1061
    @stsk1061 6 місяців тому +2

    Snow must have been impressed by Plutarch after reading his book "Parallel Lives".

  • @MomirViggwilv
    @MomirViggwilv 6 місяців тому +2

    We will not see an actor the life of Philip Seymour Hoffman in our lives

  • @Liz86000
    @Liz86000 5 місяців тому +3

    I didn't remember the scene about the Jabberjays in the film, is it a deleted scene ?
    Anyway, we miss Philip Seymour Hoffman so much, what a great actor.

  • @Amelia-ri3oq
    @Amelia-ri3oq 6 місяців тому +2

    it’s so crazy to think that tom blyth and donald sutherland play the same character

  • @Mark_nobody3
    @Mark_nobody3 2 місяці тому

    The Jabajay, One of Dr. Gaul organic spy mutts in the prequel so now it makes sense now

  • @izzad777
    @izzad777 4 місяці тому

    Plutarch Heavensbee was an incredible character written in an ok franchise. I really enjoying him in the books and in the movies.

  • @phyrruskarimarmalgold3660
    @phyrruskarimarmalgold3660 7 місяців тому +2

    Sir, we've lost power 🔥Yes Snow you're done

  • @TheHoon57
    @TheHoon57 Місяць тому +1

    Played Snow like the devil plays the fiddle.

  • @nemesis9378
    @nemesis9378 5 місяців тому +2

    @2:57 is pure gold!

  • @rubyangel2900
    @rubyangel2900 8 місяців тому +3

    Plutarch was exceptionally good...

  • @macias7125
    @macias7125 4 місяці тому +3

    So it was Plutarch’s idea for the previous victors to come back?

    • @CamcrossJayStudio
      @CamcrossJayStudio Місяць тому

      All part of his elaborate plan

    • @EvilMockingJay
      @EvilMockingJay 2 дні тому

      Not in the book. That's why this is a deleted scene. It doesn't make any sense.

  • @JimmySteller
    @JimmySteller 17 днів тому

    Snow's hatred for the mockingjays, heh... I'm sure he still hears Lucy Gray's song echoing in the trees.

  • @tjjordan4207
    @tjjordan4207 8 місяців тому +21

    This is the only sequel that capitalized on the first movie and built upon the world that was created. The Mockingjay novel and the two adaptations didn't really do much to follow up. Which is a shame, I was actually getting invested in the political side of things.

    • @bardgold4553
      @bardgold4553 8 місяців тому +1

      I also thought the 2nd movie was excellent, even better than the 1st since there were more interesting characters and clearly a higher budget for the overall production. The Mockingjay movie was spliced into two parts and greatly resembled the Harry Potter movies to me. Just felt like watching part of a movie.

  • @TheAllConsumingVoid
    @TheAllConsumingVoid Місяць тому

    3:46-3:56 Plutarch is straight up admiring Katniss, shes the reason he came back (if you remember their first meeting, the dance in snows castle he told her maybe something brought me back” thats something was her)

  • @Saicofake
    @Saicofake 9 місяців тому +6

    Seymour Hoffman was taken too soon.

  • @Jarod-te2bi
    @Jarod-te2bi 7 місяців тому +2

    He’s writings is as great early season game of thrones.

  • @javierclavijo722
    @javierclavijo722 8 місяців тому +5

    2:58 lol meme material

  • @sebastianpobletecarvalho5081
    @sebastianpobletecarvalho5081 6 місяців тому +2

    The teenager moments on HG are so cringe that one often overloock the awesome intrigue that goes in the background, two great characters in a so-so movie

  • @Otaku155
    @Otaku155 8 місяців тому +1

    President Snow; seein through everyone's bullshit lol!

  • @ethanswartz5161
    @ethanswartz5161 7 місяців тому +1

    Rip Phillip Seymour Hoffman

  • @edd44choo1000
    @edd44choo1000 7 місяців тому +1

    How old were you when you found out he also played dusty in twister?