FIA JUST GOT EXPOSED after NEW Penalty Evidence GOT LEAKED!
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- Опубліковано 3 лип 2024
- #f1news #maxverstappen #landonorris
That Verstappen and Norris moment had been the talk of the town ever since it happened last Sunday, but now for the first time, an actual FIA employee and active steward during the race has talked about it. But there is something strange about it, the drivers seem to have left it behind and ruled it out as a racing incident, they’re teams perhaps wouldn’t go that far, looking at you McLaren. - Розваги
The stewards have always been biased towards British drivers.
TRUE, they are clearly on their side.
Clearly we're not watching the same video...
Lando him self said in an interview saying that he said some things that he shouldn't have said and that he doesn't expect an apology for max. Can't we just let this rest now
I think there is agreement the stewards can act like idiots. There is not agreement on bias, since they are not biased when their makers decisions help their favorite driver.
Unfortunately this steward proves his bias against Max by clearly stating his subjective perception of MAx determines how to rule. This steward might want to look up Max and Hamilton's collision statistics and explain why that does not color his perception of Hamilton.
SOAP OPERA!!! F1 has become a big joke! They can’t do anything right. And it’s getting worse!
What a load of nonsense. By the time you reach F1, after hundreds of races in other categories, you surely know that no competitor is your friend on the track. This is not the Special Olympics. Bend the rules, break the rules, f*ck the rules, but don't deliberately endanger anyone (unless you're a psycho): in motor racing the object is to win. It's not a romantic fantasy; the cruel reality is that where there is money and competition involved, nice guys usually lose. F1 is the pinnacle of this combination of ambition and greed. Show me just ONE F1 champion who, although extremely talented and deeply admired, was not actually a prick. I have followed F1 closely since 1970, did motorsport for 6 years. Go figure.
FIA PLEASE STOP THE MOANING😩😵 ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!
Racing rule number one, lead car owns the corner.
Max had chosen his line through the corner; the problem is that he changed his line into another car that was already there. He had done this repeatably on previous laps, you can't change your line under braking to block someone. Max is totally at fault. Be honest.
@@mrsrevan1they weren't even side by side in the 50 foot braking zone
Lando was cutting kerbs to chase max throughout the race and when he finally gets near max he cant touch the kerbs?
There was so much more space 😂
Also the driver on the inside owns the corner, soooo
you have to leave the space all the time you need to leave the space
He’s giving Lando openly advice “how to outfox Max””…if a steward gives one driver advice about how to outfox the other..then that means he’s biased and certainly not impartial!
How can the FIA accept this blows my mind 🤯
Max literally would have killed lewis if the halo didnt exist
I'm guessing that's Monza '21. Max has always been the same, he can't race fairly.
Yea. All he got was a 3 place grid penalty at the next race. Should have had a ban for at least one race. Max is a dangerous driver and always will be.
But You're talking about accident that was actually (and i'm talking in reference to regulations at the time, NOT about stewards decision), was caused by Hamilton, who first made mistake by leaving space on His outside (where He had EVERY RIGHT to "close the door" on Max) and after He realized that Max actually launched perfect outside attack and additionally succeeded with braking..... Lewis turned into Max, causing the collision into T2.
In 2021 Rules where very very clear for a very long time (and in my opinion were fair, allowed fight and were making sense)
1. If You have chance (assuming that i'd make mistake by leaving space) to overtake me on my INSIDE and Your front wheel is level with my rear wheel at turn entry.... then my obligation is that i MUST leave enough space for Your car on my inside.
2. If You're attacking me on my undefended outside, then it's 100% Yours responsibility to assure safety of that overtake. (which Max did)
Lewis held perfectly inside lane through turn 1, but it placed him equally to Max's car on outside into turn 2, ergo..... Lewis lost advantage of position in reference to track layout and caused collision by turning into Max in turn 2.
If it would've been just one turn to the right, then Lewis would've had every right to keep his desired lane to the outside at exit and force Max either out of track or back, Unless Max would've been significantly (half of the car or more) in front of him.
Unfortunately since regulation changed, we have those silly, strange situations like..... for example:
Russel making a dive bomb collision with Piastri, pushing him of the track and Piastri gets penalty, even though Russel was nowhere near him at turn entry.
Anyway.... it's still just a sport, even though we all are so very passionate about.... and that's a good thing
Best regards
They should stop the bullying towards Max Verstappen . 😡
The stewardship of F1 is now positively broken.
Horner pointing out MV won’t change his driving style, but why is he not punished in a way that forces him to change both his overly aggressive style and his overall attitude to being passed on track.
It’s not exactly his first offence and certainly won’t be his last.
Totally agree, the FIA should have stepped in when he was moving under braking, they should though now say well he got a 10 sec penalty for causing a collision but should also now get a 10 place grid penalty for moving under braking.. The rules are clear but MV got no punishment for moving under braking which lead to the crash so unless the FIA get tough on MV then he will continue... Although it was great that finally we had a race that was not dominated by the same driver, we were deprived of a good battle by the incident.. Max cannot race, he is extremely quick but he can't race and the FIA need to be tougher so drivers like Max know that its unacceptable, even after he got the puncture he tried to run Lando off the road, that was really appauling and dirty driving..
@@steve11211touch some grass
😂😂
crashtappen by name crashtappen by nature, this will never change
The simple reason is your talking nonsens, Max didn't do anything wrong!!... First of all, Max was the one who was avoiding a collision on many accasions in two consecutive GP's.. Lando was the one was overly aggresive and drove like frustrated little schoolboy and pushed Max in to the grass at the start in Barcelona, and Max was only laughing about afterward.. In Austria, Lando almost collected Max twice because of his ovely aggresive and to late dive bombing.. And at last, the only thing Max did, was approuching his corner in a straight line in a slight angle.. And nowhere in the regulatoins is written that you can't aprrouch a corner in a angle..And in the published telemenrty's of both drivers is showing that Max wasn't moving under his breaking as he said immediately after the race.. Only those baised so called British F1 experts were trying everyting to give the blame to Max.. What he actually was doing was that Max braked much later than Norris at that moment, so on the moment Norris was already on his brakes, Max was still approuching his corner in a straight line in an angle,, There was absolutely no sudden movement or any aggresive reaction on his steering wheel what so ever on Max his onboards.. Even that freaking idiot and baised and hypocritical Johnny Herbert who served as steward that weekend, said in an interview after the race, there was actually not a single proof on Max his onboards that showed any kind of aggressive or sudden movement towards Norris his racing line or moving while he was breaking.. The only reason why the stewards handed Max a 10 seconds penalty was, because that slime bag Herbert and the other stewards , thought that they found Max very intimidating towards Norris, and that the actual reason why they punished Max..But where the f*ck in the entire regulatios in written anything about intimidating.. So that pathetic baised Herbert with his fellow stewards made their own rule out of nothing.. Max was on the inside of the racing line of his corner, so why should Max give up his position.. All that Norris had to do was braking a little bit earlier turn in the corner and get in Max his tail with his DRS and overtook Max before the next corner.. But instead he screw up his own race when he drove to the pits like a frustrated maniak and completly destroying his own car and had to retired his race.. Ans again Max was relative calm and drove very sow to the pits for new tires and finished his race and extended his lead in both the standing.. And most important, Norris would never ever had won that race because of his penalty for track limits
Verstappen is the same as Schumacher, and senna, yes they good drivers but had to win, their motto was if you cannot win knock your opponent of the track, the FIA steward for the final race in 2021 was wanting to see red bull win and look what happened.
Yeah right derrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr 🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪
I predicted Lando and Max would be the life of F1. Thank heavens they are prepared to race to the limits. The British press need to put their egos on ice about fairness and let us watch some good racing.
Lando just isn't WC material imo
WaterCloset cleaning material?
@@rensvanderploeg1945 World Champion 🤣😂
Absolutely right.
Yep.
It's ridiculous that this man gave an interview with his personal opinion about Max as a red line in his decisions for a punishment. I have never heard of a football referree (this should not be allowed) talking about a player in the field, who was given a red of yellow card.
Its incredible that the guy who is the head of stewards is saying all of this. Clearly he isn't impartial man, guy has a god concept
If the steward(s) had done there job quickly, it probably never have happened ... Unsafe release RB + Track Limits NOR ... and don't forget, Perez was fined in CAN driving with a damaged car around the track... NOR/McLaren just did the same ... no Fine ... 2 different measures of the FIA
with your logic everyone thats ever had a punture should be fined pipe down
@@imthepog1335 explain why they fine RB in CAN and not McLaren ...
@@GunterDS_SteReo_G because he was driving with a broken rear and chassis damage thats classed as unsafe conditions, there have been hundreds of punctures throughout the years and not once has someone got a penalty for driving back to the pits with a puncture becasue the car is considered still in a racing condition, knows the rules before commenting something you dont know about
@@imthepog1335 More a simple puncture!! Bits flying off in all directions - but deemed to not dangerous?? His csar was clearly not 'still' in a racing condition. He should had penalty. Besides Lando himself said he could have used more of the curb.
@@robinbailey7460 completely untrue, alonso had the same kind of puncture in Baku years back and he didn’t get a pen, get that biased thinking out your brain and use logic
The best will be whoever is in front of the British driver needs to move otherwise, they will be penalised
How does this count as bias?
He moved under breaking and caused a collision. Despite that Johnny is praising maxs driving style and comparing him to the greatest drivers in f1 history..
Also, why isn’t Johnny in the thumbnail lol?
It’s just “rubbing” and rubbing is racing just get on with it
Wrong
FIA always biased towards UK drivers, and the tv commentators just as biased. Besides, what does Jonny Herbert know? He was an unsuccessful driver who never won any races or championships so should not even be allowed to head a stewards committee and make biased decisions and comments.
Now they just milking this incident
Lando should have just gone around Max - and Max had done earlier.
just look at all the racing articles like THE RACE and others that are UK based. They are bias, while others are neutral
Too much politics in F1.
It was racing. Plain and simple. Norris dive bombing half a dozen times earlier was more dangerous but again just racing. Every single champion has raced in the same fashion as max, just watch the races
Ultimately it depends on if you wanted to win the race or just win the overtake battle. with 20 more DRS zones, and Max's older tyre chipping away, McLaren should've strategize better to win the race. I am sure Max will not be able to handle 20 DRS zones + tow for Lando for the remainder of the race.
What you miss is following closely in turbulent air degrades the tires faster. This means there is a limited time to press one’s tire advantage. Lando needed to overtake soon or be forced to accept 2nd place. Max knows this which is why he tried the dirty and dangerous moves, just like in 2021 when he caused at least 3 collisions.
But 20 DRS + tow for Lando. Please don’t make excuses for McLaren’s poor strategy. Lando even questioned them during Barcelona if they were aim for 1st or 3rd.
rubbish talk
Something exciting happened...of course everyone is going to jump on it and spin it.......stop clicking on the links and commenting....i hope they dont change...we want edge of the seat racing...dont we?
I don’t see any biased commissioners. I just don’t think it’s admissible for Verstapen’s behavior to block everyone anyway at any cost. That way you either stay behind him or you’re going to crash. Because he’ll always find a way to throw your opponent off the track. See for example what he did in Las Vegas which was similar to the one he did in Interlagos years ago.
Just bc the uk Steward sided with the British driver doesn’t mean it was bias. He could have been a Dutch steward and side with max and that wouldn’t make him bias either. He saw what happened and followed the rules and regulations
It's not the first time, and it won't be the last. 10Sec is a joke.
The fia as it stands right now is incompetent put some people in that position who knows about racing please. They seem to think it's kindergarten
So they cant no longer use the drive tjrough penalty
It's just hard racing incident. F1 should have more hard wheel to wheel racing instead of having too much rules that turn F1 into boring race
Let me see if he and Lando will remain friends
max swung left and hit norris how is the penalty bias?
It is typical Max which he has used for years. Leaving very little track for other drivers . The Stewards see video which we don't see. Including that of the drivers hands showing him crowding other drivers. The risk is a serious crash which could be fatal for one or both. You are correct that it it is in Max's style to be aggressive but when they can conflict with the rules. Max got away with it numerous occasions which will not change him and in a way devalues his championships. Also increases the risk of injury or death.
Max fans?MAX was solely to blame for this accident
Fgs…it was the merest touch and neither driver intended it. Speak of filthy driving, what did Lewis do the Max at Silverstone?!
What Lewis did at Silverstone was have the audacity of trying to overtake Max and not yield when Max used his “back-out” or crash tactics.
Max’s reaction was to turn into Lewis deliberately and that caused the crash.
What was Max’s reaction last weekend? Move over to squeeze Lando off the track, then when his car was not safe to drive aggressively, again squeeze him hard.
Max needs to be stopped, since 2021 there has been an obvious Red Bull/Max bias from the FIA and it it ruining F1.
Hurbert is not the only steward so ur coment its a UK bias is in correct
Winging poms what's new 😂😂😂😢😢😢😢
with saying lando did the right thing by not moving but he couldve moved to stop collision doesnt that put the blame on max if he brake while turning and lando since he could've also stopped the collision from happening and puncturing both their tires
Fia favor redbull ,fixed from 2021 and he deliberately hit lando , max didn't get penalty for unsafe release ,Oscar got forced off by perez no penalty , ever since crash test dummy max never gets penalty for his bad driving
He's always been a dirty driver he has crashed into more drivers than anyone else enough said 😂😂😂
Herbert made a good point, sometimes drivers can bully the opponents, they are prepared to crash and their opponents arent , so the other driver backs off and it becomes an actual strategy for the ruthless one. Its a point that makes important that you have to be ruthless when dealing with a ruthless opponent, if a crash happens then its the one who tried to bully's fault, that is the only real way to counter the intimidation tactics.
If Norris had backed off and not challenged Max by breaking late it wouldve only compounded Maxs bully tactics. Im not saying Max is wrong to do so it is essentially like going for a gap to overtake when there isnt much of one but when you do the opponent might back off and then it looks like a good move, its all about expecting the other driver to yield first and its all about trying to assert the dominance.
Calling the bluff of the aggressive tactic will turn it from being a fair strategy into being a stupid foul, if this happens enough Max will find a better way to deal with other drivers who are challenging his position instead of yield or crash.
He couldve still had 5 second penalty for moving under braking, another 5 for not giving the place back to Lando after going off the track, 10 for the collision which was intentional, a bully tactic gone wrong and another 10 for dangerous driving with an unsafe car (forcing Lando onto the grass after the incident)
The stewards were quite lenient to Max and it couldve been far worse, Schumacher got disqualified for the entire year for a similar incident
Very well said.
This has been and issue for a long time.
Bias, yes.
Subject to influence by the likes of Jos Verstappen, yes.
The tactics of champions are not pretty. The idea that penalties can be used to castrate champions is "stupid".
Norris did a "dive bomb" earlier in the race. He should have been penalized for that.
It's all a case of pot calling kettle black.
Bias against Max because he is the current leader. Michael was worse by far.
Norris have a car "chariots driving cage" Just look at the front spoilers just like that cars in Be Hurr He or the car must be banned. Or funny face big mouth of Maclaren
Max is a cxxt simple,
But he's also favoured it seems , I'm no fan nor do I watch , I just like McLaren road cars
Max will win this one too! It is not intimidation, it is raw rare talent! Max is the best driver ever!
Lets not pretend like Leclerc didn’t overtake max twice in 2022 in austria… if you have a better, faster car and are good at overtaking you win, if not you get frustrated behind max. Lando kept divebombing like an idiot instead of studying Max he went pedal to the metal hoping it’d work. It’s sad because he really had a chance
You people should stop making excuses to Max's dangerous driving , because one day someone will loose his or her life. Will you still consider that as intimidation ?
Vert true
People who like senna, Schumacher but hate Max's driving are dumbass hypocrites. Lewis is included there too considering he calls himself a senna fan
Y'all are losing your minds over this tire rubbing puncture incident ?! Lewis literally threw max into a 51g crash.
You a fan hating on the rival don't dress it up as a safety issue.
@@amaramachupa6422 Max turned in on him. The safety car last deployed was to clear the track of dangerous element's. I know drivers are rich but when the people who are supposed to be looking after you aren't then we have a problem not even money can solve. Why are they there?
@@planet_oith he did not, look at his board so salty
Why should other drivers change when MV won't change his dirty manouvre?
If you're ahead on points, you can certainly do that, or you can drive smarter
Typical from the bias Brits. Haters will hate
Max is the best way better than Lewis. He is racing a car that if you look at Perez is finishing out of the top 3. It’s only max Verstappens great driving that has the red bull on top. He made the race exciting and let’s face it formula one has been a bit boring. It’s max that makes it awsome. Winning races from out of the top 10 at the start. No one does that. He does though he is cold and determined he wants to win he is a machine when it comes to racing. No emotions no crying over split second decisions he might get pissed later especially when he had a 7 second lead and the pit crew let him down though it wasn’t really their fault the wheel nut was a bit compromised but still he does his bit by getting ahead so he expects the pit crew to back him as you win and lose as a team. If they lose Max from formula one I’ll not watch it again as he is one of the only reasons I watch. I do love Daniel and I thought he had the seat in the other red bull next year and that’s why he took the lesser car to drive for them but now they are keeping Perez who is useless and I think that’s let Daniel Riccardo down and he is not as committed in his racing as what has he got to push for. He wanted one more season in that car to show he still has it and they fuked him over. I know Daniel would be putting the other red bull up on the podium unlike Perez. Daniel is a great asset to formula one but they will lose him and that means no character in the whole field as all the other drivers are just boring. I’m an Aussie and piastri is a let down because most Aussies are outspoken larrikins. Like Daniel but piastri is boring like the rest of the field.
Honest and FIA are two words wich will not can be used in the same sentence. There is a easy way. When a Dutch and a Brittisch driver are involved with a thing like last Sunday. The dutch and Brittisch stewards will be excluded for their vote for the penalty or outcome from the investigation. Is there a French driver,no French Steward. That is how you can get a imparial outcome from these situatians. And the FIA short better decrease their racing rules by 50% We want to see reral racing,and that is what we saw last sunday at Spielberg,untill the FIA was trowing penalty,s around .
Think verstappen needs to learn the rules of racing instead of people having to learn what he think racing is
OMG what bias are you talking about ffs. Max moved under braking and that is against the rules.
Davidson last name, checks out as British bias. Keep crying.
FIA just knows how bad they screwed up making Max a superstar...opening up all of the racist monsters from team RedBull.
THAT WAS NOT THE MAXIMUM PENALTY , They could have officially applied a drive through penalty for instance.
Or no penalty at all as was the case last year when Sainz made the EXACT SAME MOVE IN THE EXACT SAME CORNER. Yet Verstappen moved slightly to the left (Norris could have done this too). Max didn’t whine about it. I truly hope Max wins massively again this weekend in Silverstone.
@@arjandeboer651damn right
drive through for a racing incident. world gone mad and weak. transition already babe
Max “The Kamikaze” Verstappen is at it once more- crashing into opponents when he knows his race is over. The reason Max has 2 championships is because Checo is mediocre; the other championship Max has couldn’t be won on the track even though Checo helped Max close the gap, had to be given to him by Masi. He’s the GOAT his fans write as if it is easy to put 8 championship winning campaigns.
Max is complete garbage as driver!
- let’s debate, facts only! I don’t care about your feelings!
😂😂 HILARIOUS
you seem to care about your own feelings though...what an emo post. lmao .. here 🎻 the world tiniest violin to accompany your sorrow
I do care about your feelings, and I feel really sorry for your frustration. But once you become an adult, I know you will get over it.
@@dco1019 feelings? What I have are opinions!
What you wrote, your reply, is your feelings which I don’t really care for- sorry dude, try again!
@@rensvanderploeg1945 Feelings?- LOL, what I wrote about Max, that he is garbage is an opinion not a feeling. The rest of my post were facts not feelings- “but once you become an adult, I know you will get over it”
The British press is truly sickening. Sooooo horribly biased against anyone who is not British. Already for years. I have cancelled my Sky Sports subscription. I’m done with this crap.
if it happened with any driver and pamperham in norris place or maxes place, doesnt matter, the one who is not pampershitham would get grid penalty.