Yea as soon as they started taking contact from the tree line they would have lit it up with everything. They waited a bit until they started really unleashing
@@fujimi715 Plot device. Can't escape that in film making. The problem is that many people look at it and think... yeah, that's what they did. Either researching proper action is too costly and time consuming or it's boring and unlikely to engage the audience.
I like to pretend that as they are rolling around in tanks in this movie, somewhere else at that same moment in time, Tom Hanks is searching for Private Ryan.
My uncle was a tank driver in WW2 and was of Mexican descent. One of the first to cross the Rhine, his tank was shelled and was the only one of his crew alive to crawl out. He lost two fingers on his right hand due to the tank tracks running over his hand as he escaped. He spent the remainder of the war in a POW camp and survived. This film came out the year he died so my pop and I felt obligated to see it in his honor.
Be glad yo could, my Dad was active duty at 17yo, and just lost him Jan. 2022 at 95yo. my grandfather was also pow'd until 44 after being shot down just below Munich.
I sat next to an old guy at the local football for years who had a scar burn on his neck. Turned out he was a crewman in a Churchill crocodile flamethrower tank. He baled from a burning tank three times in mid 1944. Had nightmares for 40 years until he went into a school to talk about being a WW2 veteran, and the nightmares suddenly stopped.
I love the polite panzerfaust who pops up, then waits for the tank crew to have their little argument, then waits for the tank gun to acquire him as a target, all without moving an inch. Prime German discipline and manners!
in all fairness, you can't just fire a rocket aimlessly into a tank and expect any kind of result. he was probably looking to get a killshot on the driver. and while taking the 5 to 10 seconds to aim up his shot (as he probably suspected the gunner was out of ammo), didn't see that the cannon was already aimed at his body. .....in fact the only ridiculous part of this scene is the fact that the cannon is perfectly aimed at him. no traversal, not even a twitch... just perfectly armed and lined up for the kill.
@@joeyclemenza7339 No offence but that's not a good excuse. It doesn't take 5 seconds to aim a panzerfaust at a tank at that range. I'm sure any soldier in that situation would just pop up and fire, not wait to aim properly. Besides the panzerfaust already had good penetration at certain distances but at that range it will still cause damage no matter where he hits the tank.
that's right, in reality AT guns will be shooting together with MG all at once and accurately, but not on holywood movies, like in westerns Indians never can hit cowboys
Then for the Tiger to give up it’s big advantage of range, frontal armour protection and the ability to accurately shoot and advance on those three Sherman’s
Mate of mine from design college days in the late 80s in St Albans worked on this film. I remember him talking about taking a casting of a real Sherman turret and then pouring a resin version that could then get blown off. He also did the big front of hotel explosion in the town square - a big air cannon and lots of dust and debris. Said the gag was budgeted for about 25 grand (two attempts) but got it on the first take! Great guy by the name of Jim Leng.
A WW2 vet told me that among American troops fighting in France, machine gunners and 2nd lieutenants had very low life expectancies. The average life expectancy of a tanker was six weeks. I was born in 45. My mother told me that when it was announced that the atomic bomb had been dropped, everyone was sort of in shock because of the amount people that were killed. But no one really knew what in the world it was. When it was announced that the Japanese surrendered however, everyone really was elated and celebrated in the streets. The main reason was because the Western Union Messenger would no longer be seen from time to time in the neighborhood. He was like the angel of death. With the surrender it meant the telegrams would cease that had reported a loved one, a husband, a son, a nephew, a neighbor, the kid who had lived down the street was either was in critical condition, lost a leg or an arm, was killed or MIA. When a door bell rang and it was the messenger, a sudden feeling of shock came upon the person who opened the door. Everyone always knew what it meant.
@@kevinhealey6540 The present day generation is not to blame. In America it's the boomers that dismantled the society that the greatest generation built.
My dad was a tanker in the 27th Army Div on Siapan and Okinawa. He was a machine gunner. He was the youngest guy on his tank. He was rated as a sharp shooter. He fired the BAR on top of the tanker. This was the first movie that I ever saw that took you inside the tank. In Okinawa, as the tank rolled up on the beach it hit a land mine. Because he was on top of the tank, he was blown clear off the tank. The rest of the crew were not as luck. He felt that it was ironic because being on top of the tank, he was exposed to enemy rifle fire.
God Bless your father for his service. BAR's were not used on tanks. The BAR (Browning Automatic Rifle) was a light squad machine gun for infantry use. The machine gun on top of the turret was usually a Browning 50 cal. M2 Heavy Machinegun (Ma Deuce). 30 cal. light machines guns were mounted as a coaxial gun in the turret and in a hull mount in the front glacis of the tank. The machine gun on tip was most often operated by the tank commander or gunner.
Both my grandpa's fought in the pacific. One was in the navy and reloaded ammunition for anti-aircraft guns. My other grandpa carried a BAR in the army. They all saw some crazy shit. Had a cousin who witnessed a man get sucked into a jet engine on a carrier durring Nam. War is fucking brutal.
I guess back in those days there was no safe place on or in a tank. Inside you're safer from small arms fire but more susceptible to mines and anti tank fire. Brave young men all of them.
we are kind of at a stupid point right now where portraying the germans as a well trained army would be interpreted as being pro-Nazi. So we get cartoon movies and battles instead.
Intense, definitely due for a re-watch. Crazy to me to think this is pretty much the kind of shit my Grandfather did in WWII, except he was with the British Columbia Dragoons. He commanded of a small fleet of Sherman tanks, they conquered a bunch of battles through the Liri Valley, Gothic Line, the heavily fortified Hitler Line, Melfa River, Rome, and fought alongside the 1st Canadian Corps to North-West Europe until the end of the war. They were credited with being the first to take out one of Germany's new 45 ton Panther tanks, while the Sherman tanks were only 30 tons. Badass. He never really talked about it much, he did tell us a few stories, but I have all the news paper clippings, medals, awards, and three books that were written about their action in the war to show for it, highest level of respect for him.
I’m from BC too! To be honest i didn’t know British Columbia had tanks, probably sounds silly but i don’t have too much war history knowledge. Thank you so much for sharing and bless your grandfather for his service
@@SeleniteQuartz Apparently Ford and Chrysler made the Sherman tanks, there were 10 factories where they were built in the United States, and one factory in Canada as well.
I remember being drunk seeing this in theaters on my birthday. That ricochet at 3:09 literally threw me back in my seat. There was an honest quarter second I thought I was hit.
Not the best war film made but you have to admire the cast dedication to the project. They spent weeks together sleeping eating etc in the tank or in similar cramped contions to make the movement in and around the tank authentic and the muck and grime..
3:00 lol AT gun crew in prepared concealed position, static, firing at barn-door sized target that is moving directly towards them, at actually pretty close range, misses several times. Moving tank returns fire, hits them.
@@SircoleYT Also by this point in the war, Germany was fielding troops with little to no training. Fury’s crew, except for the newbie, had been fighting and surviving since Africa.
@@rotorheadv8 You can see that the AT crews hit the burning trucks in the field prior to the tanks arriving just fine, gun is adjusted, aim is calculated, all you have to do then is wait for the tanks and trucks to align and boom job done. This scene is a load of shit.
it's an issue of scaling. While in reality, the germans were quite efficient, in movie world, there's a budget. There's a casting budget, an effects budget and a logistics budget. Not every movie can afford to show a full scale battle with 1000 extras being blown away by the squad, so the cheapest way to achieve the ultimate resolution (with the U.S. victory) is to just have the OPFOR miss a lot.
The Germans would've likely won that battle if this scene was realistic. They had superior firepower and the element of surprise. Those are PAK 40 7.5CM anti-tank guns, which are super accurate, and that's not overstating it even the slightest. They can end a Sherman tank at 1500 meters. Sherman tanks are like paper to them at the distance in this clip. It's 75MM armor at best, compared to a gun that can penetrate twice that at that distance. The German soldiers also carried portable AT launchers.
You’re a dumbass who clearly doesn’t understand anything but I’ll try to be coherent for you. The Germans staggered their attacks to draw in the Americans further into a potion of no retreat. If they all fired at once, yeah they might have done more damage but then it would have given the Americans a chance to retreat. The Germans plan did not work obviously.
PaK 40 would struggle against a late model Sherman at 1500 meters. Don't oversell it. If this were realistic, the PaK battery would fire once, and the M4s would WP the entire tree line while withdrawing. Hell, the infantry probably wouldn't have been pinned there in the first place because local mortar batteries would have been brought into action against the tree line.
@@JustRememberWhoYoureWorkingFor Bro, George Lucas pulled the colors of the blasters shots from real-life WW2 usage. The Germans and American forces really used, respectively, green and red tracer rounds for their machine guns in order to help line up their fire.
Actually, the round ricochet is by far the most badass part of that. It does a fantastic job in capturing how extremely fast and violent such a round is, and also that A) they can in fact ricochet, (Hollywood has done little at all to suggest that shells can actually not immediately gasoline-explosion things they hit), and B) it reinforces on a visceral level that tanks are armored behemoths capable of shrugging off poorly angled hits from weapons otherwise capable of wrecking them.
I love how the German force patiently awaited thier turn to shoot, MG and the 2 PAK 40's, kinda like an old kung fu movie where the group of baddies would do the same thing, allowing thier certain doom. Great cinematic scene but B.S. accuracy.
@@cryptozoomauler5505 Because not every part of a tank can be destroyed, there are certain regions you can hit to totally put a tank out of action. With a one-man panzerfaust unit you get one shot from that range and if it isn't a kill shot it's pointless. You can't just shoot randomly at that range. So it really wasn't unrealistic at all. There were elements of this scene that were unrealistic, just not that one.
Never seen the movie, but I just love the communication levels here. It's so unlike most dramatisations, but it shows you how much work goes into making a team actually work well in real life. Rather than some guy shouting "move out" and they all set off beautifully syncronised like a bunch of drones.
When Michael Pena says "This ain't pretty you know, it's what we do." That line hits hard. Had a coworker that was in Iraq and was on the phone with a customer that was another veteran. I was on a call myself and wasn't listening in completely but knew he was arguing with the customer. Then I heard him say "Look, we did what we did cause we were told to do it." And I felt like everyone in the room knew what he was talking about. War is Hell.
War isn't hell. War is war and hell is hell, and out of the two, war is a lot worse. In any religion only sinners go to hell. In war, there are plenty of innocent people.
Germans: perfectly annihilating those half-tracks, knowing the range they destroyed them. Germans when tanks arrive: miss every fucking shot they shoot. Hollywood. Edit: my first ever 1 000 likes, holy damn. Edit 2: C'mon, I know the movie had to have some proper action, I'm just saying it could had been somehow more realistic, I liked the movie in the end.
What movie are you watching? In this one they score a hit that ricochets off the tank. Those anti tank gunners are late war noobs, likely scared out of their minds seeing tanks that will shoot back, and they know it. This is not so unrealistic as people say in these comments.
@@jacksons1010 Those late war noobs probably still had more experience than the just arrived to war US troops. Anti tank crew in german military was pretty deadly, even at the end of the war, that tanks coming straight forward to a strongly defended position would be hurt badly. It doesnt make sense that tank crews are able to hit a partially dug anti tank gun firing from a moving platform while anti tank cannons cant take a direct hit on a tank in open field.
@@masnoesnada How the hell do you figure that? Germans stationed in France had a grand total of 2 months combat experience, if they were involved in any of the fighting to bring down the fancy boys. By 1945, Americans had 3 years of combat experience, near constant, as opposed to sitting on their asses for 5 years.
@@tremedar 3 years? The same troops? When was D-Day again and who fought there? All of pacific theatre and northern Africa/ Italy troops? Bold statement.
Pitt learned everything he knows about Sherman tank fighting from Oddball......he just didn't use it for some reason. Pitt and his tanks would've had a much easier time if they'd simply eaten wine & cheese, and caught some Rays using tin foil that morning, and played loud gypsy music when confronting the Germans. It's a PROVEN technique......it worked for Oddball.
Honestly, I love this movie but in real life with the positioning and firepower. Those Paks would’ve probably ate those tanks up. Pak teams were notorious for being fast, accurate, and able to focus fire.
Different countries actually did use different tracer colors - though it’s a little dramatized for movies like this one to differentiate between firing sources
That's the level of sheer knowledge one gets from hyper-realistic movies like "Fury"! Also, one apparently learns new acronyms; Light Amplification by Ztimulated Emission of Radiation.
One thing this scene has done right is the chaos of communication. Not many movies insert chatters in the background, they add a sense of chaotic so well.
I love tank movies. I’m kind of biased because I was a 19K (tanker) in the army. I loved the M1A2 and all the ass lock-in it did. I did it for nine wonderful years and said no more. I had my fair share of being gone all the damn time. We trained and trained and trained. One of the best times of my life.
My favorite tanker quote is a driver or gunner standing in front of his abrams for a selfie, a reply saying "Man those things are so cool." And the tanker replying with, "It is a massive piece of shit." I think he said something later about how it always broke down lol
Literally all tankers love this movie. The only people who hate it are Wehraboos and War Thunder nerds. Sure it's not accurate in a lot of scenes, but it feels very authentic, they especially nailed the bond and communication between the crewmembers.
@@hazmatbob1519 actually, in the late war often times new units mostly comprised of young boys and older men were given fallschirmjäger uniforms. The SS often did wide recruitment campaigns in occupied countries like Luxembourg where men were shipped off with total unwillingness to fight which could possibly be a good explanation to why the Nazi soldiers in this movie performed so poorly.
LOL - that sounds about right. I might watch the movie just to see if it's dumb enough to be entertaining - lining up tanks and slowly creeping towards fortified anti-tank guns is so obviously stupid to everyone with even a basic understanding of how guns work that I imagine this movie must be full of inanity.
My Uncle was a Tank Commander under Patton. 3rd Armored Div. He grew up in Porterville and used to go watch the men Train in the desert. He fought at the Battle of the Bulge. His Career ended in Korea when his legs were run over by a Tank he was sleeping under.
Pitt and his tanks would've had a much easier time if they'd simply eaten wine & cheese, and caught some Rays using tin foil that morning, and played loud gypsy music when confronting the Germans. It's a PROVEN technique......it worked for Oddball.
Oddball did have a slightly different agenda mind, the war was just a nice distraction for him and his crew whilst they worked out how to work the free market to their advantage......
@@movableorigins4194 I guess it's a fantasy we kicked the Germans asses, and were pretty much the only ones doing that, Japanese as well. The world was getting its asses handed to them till we arrived. Like it our not we WON the day. Period.
Those weren't turrets. Turrets are hard, reinforced placements. They were machine gun "nests", entrenched ground troops, and a few scattered fortified tank emplacements.
@@stevek8829 Because I don't feel like copy/pasting an article for you. The short version is a single Soviet KV2 held up an entire German advance for more than a day, killing everything around it until it ran out of ammunition during the night and German infantry finally swarmed it past its machine guns to get grenades in through the hatches. Maybe if you weren't such a douche or a historical illiterate you'd have heard of such things before.
@@stevek8829 At Raseiniai, a single Soviet KV1 stopped at a crossroads and held up elements of the 6th Panzer Division for 24 hours before finally being destroyed. So this type of shit does happen in real life. Fury just dramatizes it.
@@nikolakaravida9670 that KV-2 story is interesting, but there are no verifiable accounts. The crew were killed and the supposed action isn't written up by the Germans either. The tank was isolated on a dirt road surrounded by empty soft ground. It's mobility thus restricted. It didn't seem like good terrain for a stand. Maybe the 50 mm guns that first opposed it weren't adequate. In the actual battle, Kremlin lost 704 of 749 tanks. It's certainly interesting, but it seems unlikely considering how fast the Germans took out that large armada of tanks. The Soviets were not above creating heroic stories to counter the actual shattering defeats. This was right after the start of Barbarossa. A picture of the supposed tank shows it not at a crossroads or near any cover. Thanks for getting me to look it up, but I'll have to think this is Soviet fake news during the Blitzkrieg.
I think if the movie focused on how dangerous the Germans and Americans really were in combat equally, rather than giving the Germans Stormtrooper aim, the movie would’ve benefited more from a realism AND Hollywood standpoint. Hacksaw Ridge does that extremely well with the Japanese and how tough they were to fight.
Exactly, this movie shows the Germans as absurdly inept throughout. It could have been a decent film, but it was so wildly unrealistic that it's almost comical instead.
@@jasonpatterson8091 Because at this point in the war, they were inept, inexperienced, and incompetent in almost all ways aside from the absolute die-hard SS troops. Even then, they still had a lot of new and green guys that couldn't fight nearly as well under pressure like those who had actual combat experience. Not excusing the stormtrooper aim - or the AT troop waiting 10 whole seconds to fire - but to say that the germans were equally as deadly as Americans this late into the war is some wehrmacht cope-tier shilling lol.
@@mistergoodfellow5847 No just no. there were plenty of experienced germans fighting late war. stop spreading misinformation. there's even in movie evidence that they are fighting experienced soldiers. medals on the tiger commanders uniform for instance shows several accolades achieved through active combat that a rookie wouldn't get. the pak emplacements in this scene has notched plenty kills on the barrels of their guns, and had just previously eliminated a mechanized unit, thus they knew the distance, and were prepared and zeroed in. not only that, but they were using cannons known for being easy to handle and very good at the range they are presented. and here they are shooting at what is point blank for their gun type and cant hit a large slow moving target getting closer and closer. even un-experienced crews would have taken out a sherman or 2.
@@Softpaw1996 You're misunderstanding my point - i'm not disputing any of that whatsoever. You're countering an argument that literally doesn't exist on my end. The entire scene is unrealistic, and I agree, at least one or two of those shermans should've been absolutely annihilated - but the point stands that people here are vastly overestimating the average(Keyword here, not all) german troops ability, combat experience, training, and morale at this period of the war - which as I stated, is still wehrmacht-tier cope posting.
To this day, the audio in this film is golden. Everything from the muted and gargled comms chatter to the deep gutteral clunks of the guns and whistle of the shots. Is the film itself realistic? No, any armchair general could easily ramble off the numerous and egregious errors this film has.
It’s so bad I would ban it but Americans love to show how much better they are and people love amounts of killing in movies. It was war but I could also say brad pitta character kinda turned into a psycho murderer at the end speaking perfect German
** In case you were wondering, Norman, aka Logan Lerman, is quite possibly the most talented actor to ever enter Hollywood. Look at him on 3:10 to Yuma as well. Interviewers asked if Brad Pitt gave him acting advice or if Jon Bernthal did the same and he said “No, they actually asked me for advice.” He is an actor’s actor.
I was disgusted by how cheesy cringey and innaccurate their Star Wars tracer battle was. It’s basically a 12 yr olds world of tanks battle or war thunder battle
Artistic license. I just pretend like it was a supply issue. They either got the wrong ammo or somebody new incorrectly boxed it at the factory. Do I have to do all the thinking on here?
@@paulklee5790 Not that high though, the movie is far from accurate in terms of tactics used, nobody is loading a tracer every other 1 or 2 bullets like they show here, the Germans aren't waiting in line to fire (second AT cannon only shoots after the first is destroyed), AT cannons zeroed in on that field (as they already shot down equipment before) would not miss that much, WWII tanks would not be shooting whilst driving, or at least not hitting anything reliably whilst driving through a field, inside a tank you can't have reasonably quiet conversations due to the noise, a panzerfaust does not take minutes to aim (just point and shoot it) and so on. Fun movie, but do not take it as a history lesson beyond 'war is bad'.
@@charlescourtwright2229 Oh I'm not disagreeing with that, the movie makes a strong point quite well about war changing people and destroying humanity but in terms of technical accuracy there's a few things that go beyond taking creative liberties into just making stuff up. The 3v1 Sherman vs Tiger scene is quite exciting but obviously in reality rather ridiculous, in the end the movie is good enough to allow most (myself included) to suspend their disbelief and enjoy it, just don't use the movie as an exact reference for history.
I was an 11Delta in an armor unit stationed in Germany in the 1970's. This scene is quite authentic. Especially the terrain. It looks exactly like Germany in the countryside.
Too many mistakes were made in Fury..... The Ronson was so cramped that there was hardly any room in them... But Hollywood made the inside that big, you could fit an entire three piece suite in one....
@Anakin Skywalker Go down to Bovington Tank Museum, as there a couple there and you will see it's not "a myth"... You're allowed to look inside, so you can see for yourself.
@Anakin Skywalker Then it's not "a myth" then is it?... I'm not really interested in the tiger. Why? Because my Father was a tank driver in the second world war, who saw action first hand in the Ardennes, Operation Market Garden and every tank crew were shit scared of the tiger. Mechanically, the tiger was a bag of nails, but the fire power was something else. Hence the nickname "the Ronson", was given to the Sherman tank by the Germans.
@Anakin Skywalker Oh whatever bud, you have your opinions and seem to be the number one expert on such matters, so we'll leave it with that okay? Enjoy the rest of your day and God bless you and your family. Take care.
This is actually one badass picture. I have it on DVD. Brad plays a helluva grizzled seen a lot leadership role. They have some scenes they dropped out the final cut they should've left in. I like the crew of the Fury, soldiers. They should edit it add the deleted scenes and redistribute it.
As a veteran soldier you obviously know that once you have a sight of 4 enemy tanks and several infantry units you should start shooting the machine gun directly to the strongest armor of the shermans to reveal it's position and then get shot immediately, and also shoot the fucking sky with your 83 mm, one at once, instead to the fucking sherman with the enlarged canon that's only like 500 mts. on plain, open field
@@nightfalls5462 i would recommand him for the silver stars, the medal of honor and of course, promoted to obersturmbangruppenstaggenalarmenwarffer generaloberst rank.
Sun Tzu: Always deploy your infantry in the open in front of the available cover so the cameras can film their deaths. Sun Tzu: Always abandon your most strategic airbase before you abandon a country that depended on you for 20 years.
I love how the soldiers weapons had zero recoil at all, and somehow were hitting MOVING TARGETS from a pretty decent range without aiming at all, must be on some seal team 6 delta force shit .
Everyone is ripping this movie apart because it's Hollywood and not accurate. But I think it's really neat to have a WWII movie based on soldiers in the tank lifestyle :)
I totally agree. They really nailed the daily life of the tank crew. Although the movie has some flaws it is still really good because it has no standard plot like "flawless hero America comes to save the day again".
It would be more neat if the movie wasn't completely unrealistic and stupid, don't you think? This isn't what it was like in World War II - this is a fantasyland created in the imaginations of privileged Hollywood elites who don't know anything about war.
A stationary German 88 that was already zeroed on previous kills .has zero accuracy, but a mobile tiger in a latter scene has 100% accuracy. Great scene but bs realism. In reality that single 88 would spell an early grave. And that’s why we use artillery’s support! And smoke!
It's called having an elite crew. You don't issue a Tiger to a bunch of recruits. You hear from the radio chatter the Tiger is experienced on par with Fury.
There's a fundamental tension here: for a good movie, you need a simple, bright story. Actual battle is mostly chaos: folks shooting at once, miscommunication, minute details become key... Its why I love Dunkirk so much: they show how one ignored element (fog of war) by itself it can wreck an army
@@Softpaw1996 I meant a different tension: in a nutshell, its the difference between what you and I wanna see vs what most people want. People like simple stories and messages; real world is grey as hell
@@Softpaw1996 there is tension. They’re being fired at by high-velocity guns that could kill them in an instant. Also, movies can be good with plot armor, and it’s quite necessary so the suspenseful scenes don’t end with the protagonists dying immediately.
Pretty much until the end of the war there was a good chance that a German veteran unit, that was still in good order and had supplies, would put up a hard fight. Which is why Americans usually called in air strikes and artillery when they faced stiff resistance. Hollywood however depicts Germans as idiots, who cannot shoot straight, while the heroic US infantry walks all over them. It's nonsense, unrealistic and ahistorical. Also Fury is idiotic, because why would the Fury commander sacrifice his whole crew, except the young guy, at the end of the movie, to stop a column of German infantry, which would not have prolonged the war by a single day?
I’m pretty sure they were inspired by that tank in ww1 that repelled waves of Germans. It would make sense in ww1 as there was little to no AT, but this movie was ehh… entertaining?
@@themanwithallthewrongopini3551 the problem with that final scene is it was a German SS unit (ie. they knew what they were doing) and they had Panzerfausts. Other than that final scene, I really enjoyed the movie.
@Graf Zeppelin just shut up and enjoy the movie, or don't. But don't be such an idiot to expect anything more from a fictional story. If you wring your hands and clutch your pearls this much over a hollywood production you are in for a stressful time.
Definitely loved this battle. I don't know why they are advancing so close together or why they would attack a position unbuttoned. Actually if I were the commander I would have started hitting the treelinedwith the tank fire and machine gun fire as soon as I started advancing on the field. That would keep their heads down while I did the advance. You would also think that AirPower would have softened up the positions before advance. Oh well it's fun to watch. No 4K showing up here.
From a filmmaking standpoint, this scene is amazing.
From a military standpoint, this is horrendous.
Agreed
Yea as soon as they started taking contact from the tree line they would have lit it up with everything. They waited a bit until they started really unleashing
Agree, absolutely.
@@fujimi715 Plot device. Can't escape that in film making. The problem is that many people look at it and think... yeah, that's what they did.
Either researching proper action is too costly and time consuming or it's boring and unlikely to engage the audience.
@@tomstamford6837 This. People being arm chair experts forgetting to suspend disbelief when watching a movie.
I like to pretend that as they are rolling around in tanks in this movie, somewhere else at that same moment in time, Tom Hanks is searching for Private Ryan.
And Brad's twin is scalping nazi's
great comment.. got me thinking that too
By this time, little ryan is at home with mommy and Tom hanks and the rest of the crew are dead.
and Aldo the Apache is off somewhere interrogating prisoners
@@the_white_al_borland brad pitt cant be in 2 places at once
My uncle was a tank driver in WW2 and was of Mexican descent. One of the first to cross the Rhine, his tank was shelled and was the only one of his crew alive to crawl out. He lost two fingers on his right hand due to the tank tracks running over his hand as he escaped. He spent the remainder of the war in a POW camp and survived. This film came out the year he died so my pop and I felt obligated to see it in his honor.
Be glad yo could, my Dad was active duty at 17yo, and just lost him Jan. 2022 at 95yo. my grandfather was also pow'd until 44 after being shot down just below Munich.
So he was an American!
Thank God, now Trump will build a wall, and not a single mexican will cross the border! Glory to the USA!
@@brucebramlett6060NOPE MEXICAN AMERICAN🇲🇽
French dude here thanking you're whole family for your service. Viva mexico america y francia, forever friends in our hearts
I sat next to an old guy at the local football for years who had a scar burn on his neck. Turned out he was a crewman in a Churchill crocodile flamethrower tank. He baled from a burning tank three times in mid 1944. Had nightmares for 40 years until he went into a school to talk about being a WW2 veteran, and the nightmares suddenly stopped.
Yup..major source of anxiety went away..
Who knew that talking to someone might help? Not that guy.
I love the polite panzerfaust who pops up, then waits for the tank crew to have their little argument, then waits for the tank gun to acquire him as a target, all without moving an inch. Prime German discipline and manners!
in all fairness, you can't just fire a rocket aimlessly into a tank and expect any kind of result. he was probably looking to get a killshot on the driver. and while taking the 5 to 10 seconds to aim up his shot (as he probably suspected the gunner was out of ammo), didn't see that the cannon was already aimed at his body.
.....in fact the only ridiculous part of this scene is the fact that the cannon is perfectly aimed at him. no traversal, not even a twitch... just perfectly armed and lined up for the kill.
@@joeyclemenza7339 No offence but that's not a good excuse. It doesn't take 5 seconds to aim a panzerfaust at a tank at that range. I'm sure any soldier in that situation would just pop up and fire, not wait to aim properly. Besides the panzerfaust already had good penetration at certain distances but at that range it will still cause damage no matter where he hits the tank.
That's y is a move! noT reality...
@@wilhelmvonberghoff175 maybe it was a senior citizen and he decided to take a nap?
@@joeyclemenza7339 Not even the US infantry shambling out from behind the tanks like zombies, firing from the hip while walking?
So considerate of the Germans to fight their weapon systems in sequence rather then all at once. And to shoot like Imperial Stormtroopers.
Not to mention that the tanks had the most impenetrable protection known to man: plot armor.
that's right, in reality AT guns will be shooting together with MG all at once and accurately, but not on holywood movies, like in westerns Indians never can hit cowboys
They did nazi that coming
And you know not use mortars and put all their fighting positions right out in the middle of an open field.
Then for the Tiger to give up it’s big advantage of range, frontal armour protection and the ability to accurately shoot and advance on those three Sherman’s
The ricochet is jaw droppingly beautiful, the sustained\ dissipating sound paired with the shell flying off into the distance, wow
terrifying
That round has land somewhere I wonder where
There’s something so beautiful about the way Shia says “ON THE WAY” every time
On one. Main gun is one.
For the longest of time I thought he always said "On What!!" didn't know until I watched it with subtitles
ON ONE!*
I thought he was saying on one😮
I thought he said "Firing one!"
“How do you know they’re dead , are you a doctor?” Great line.
“We’re not waiting for them to get up and fuck us in our ass”!!
The Germans were famous for playing dead, letting us walk up on them, and then killing our people during that war.
It also could have been women because you can't tell that unless you're a doctor.
@@glorgau that fad will die faster if we don't acknowledge it.
@@glorgau And even then, those doctors might be wrong if they have the "wrong" opinion of the matter.
Mate of mine from design college days in the late 80s in St Albans worked on this film. I remember him talking about taking a casting of a real Sherman turret and then pouring a resin version that could then get blown off. He also did the big front of hotel explosion in the town square - a big air cannon and lots of dust and debris. Said the gag was budgeted for about 25 grand (two attempts) but got it on the first take! Great guy by the name of Jim Leng.
The film sucks Thor
He did a great job!!
And there He is: the I know a guy from the movie guy
@@grumpyoldmen2502 and here's the "being an asshole for no reason" guy
@Jesus has given you all. Repent or die. Morrigan morda.
A WW2 vet told me that among American troops fighting in France,
machine gunners and 2nd lieutenants had very low life expectancies.
The average life expectancy of a tanker was six weeks.
I was born in 45. My mother told me that when it was announced that the atomic bomb had been dropped,
everyone was sort of in shock because of the amount people that were killed. But no one really knew what in the world it was.
When it was announced that the Japanese surrendered however, everyone really was elated and celebrated in the streets.
The main reason was because the Western Union Messenger would no longer be seen from time to time
in the neighborhood. He was like the angel of death. With the surrender it meant the telegrams would cease
that had reported a loved one, a husband, a son, a nephew, a neighbor, the kid who had lived down the street
was either was in critical condition, lost a leg or an arm, was killed or MIA.
When a door bell rang and it was the messenger, a sudden feeling of shock came upon the person who opened the door.
Everyone always knew what it meant.
The generation who lived through WW2 were and are disappointed that their sacrifice was depreciated by the present day generation.
@@kevinhealey6540 The present day generation is not to blame. In America it's the boomers that dismantled the society that the greatest generation built.
@@Nerezza1 who was the greatest generation then?
@@stevegoldstein3402 Usually thought of as the ones born between 1901 and 1927, i.e the majority who fought during WW2.
Sure you were born in 1945. A 77 year old on UA-cam. 😂😂😂stop with your fake storytelling
My dad was a tanker in the 27th Army Div on Siapan and Okinawa. He was a machine gunner.
He was the youngest guy on his tank. He was rated as a sharp shooter. He fired the BAR on top of the tanker.
This was the first movie that I ever saw that took you inside the tank.
In Okinawa, as the tank rolled up on the beach it hit a land mine. Because he was on top of the tank, he was blown clear off the tank. The rest of the crew were not as luck. He felt that it was ironic because being on top of the tank, he was exposed to enemy rifle fire.
God Bless your father for his service. BAR's were not used on tanks. The BAR (Browning Automatic Rifle) was a light squad machine gun for infantry use. The machine gun on top of the turret was usually a Browning 50 cal. M2 Heavy Machinegun (Ma Deuce). 30 cal. light machines guns were mounted as a coaxial gun in the turret and in a hull mount in the front glacis of the tank. The machine gun on tip was most often operated by the tank commander or gunner.
@@hughburgess7201 I didn't know that. Thank you.
Both my grandpa's fought in the pacific. One was in the navy and reloaded ammunition for anti-aircraft guns. My other grandpa carried a BAR in the army. They all saw some crazy shit.
Had a cousin who witnessed a man get sucked into a jet engine on a carrier durring Nam.
War is fucking brutal.
@@I_like_turtles_67 You have a great family
I guess back in those days there was no safe place on or in a tank. Inside you're safer from small arms fire but more susceptible to mines and anti tank fire. Brave young men all of them.
There is no way late war AT guns would miss anything at that range.
Brad Pitt needs to live and look cool shouting non sense.
Not to mention they're shooting at turns. Both of the AT would be shooting together, not after the other one got hit...
Late in the war, their bores were probably worn out.
This late in the war and German industry at pretty much zero, it’s highly possible.
@@TuAFFalcon And with his freaking torso and head out of the tank all the time ahahaha
When will WW2 directors realise that when you downplay the enemy, you downplay the one's fighting them too
we are kind of at a stupid point right now where portraying the germans as a well trained army would be interpreted as being pro-Nazi. So we get cartoon movies and battles instead.
@@james3414
No it wouldn’t. Absolutely no one would think that.
@@roems6396 Some idiot would, there is always someone.
Its hollywood. You want realism, read books..
@@on2wheels378 you got a point
Intense, definitely due for a re-watch.
Crazy to me to think this is pretty much the kind of shit my Grandfather did in WWII, except he was with the British Columbia Dragoons. He commanded of a small fleet of Sherman tanks, they conquered a bunch of battles through the Liri Valley, Gothic Line, the heavily fortified Hitler Line, Melfa River, Rome, and fought alongside the 1st Canadian Corps to North-West Europe until the end of the war. They were credited with being the first to take out one of Germany's new 45 ton Panther tanks, while the Sherman tanks were only 30 tons. Badass. He never really talked about it much, he did tell us a few stories, but I have all the news paper clippings, medals, awards, and three books that were written about their action in the war to show for it, highest level of respect for him.
I’m from BC too! To be honest i didn’t know British Columbia had tanks, probably sounds silly but i don’t have too much war history knowledge. Thank you so much for sharing and bless your grandfather for his service
@@SeleniteQuartz Apparently Ford and Chrysler made the Sherman tanks, there were 10 factories where they were built in the United States, and one factory in Canada as well.
It makes me sad to think of all those lives lost on both sides. My father fought in WW2 in a tank crew. I'm glad I never had to.
That AT gun never had the makings of a varsity athlete.
I don't like that kind of tawk!
@@liamrocks55 UnDERratEd
shut up Junior
@RT-106 Music Small my a**, those guns can take out enemy target from kilometer away
I remember being drunk seeing this in theaters on my birthday. That ricochet at 3:09 literally threw me back in my seat. There was an honest quarter second I thought I was hit.
😂😂😂
The soldier in the MG didn't even flinch.😂
DRUNK! Na, just joking alcohol is awesome.
😂😂😂
Bro I was there and from where I was sitting, YOU DID GET HIT. get to the M.A.S.H asap
Not the best war film made but you have to admire the cast dedication to the project. They spent weeks together sleeping eating etc in the tank or in similar cramped contions to make the movement in and around the tank authentic and the muck and grime..
Yep, dedication and a sweet pay packet will do it every time, baby
All that for such a stupid film lol...
@@mystkprophet1593 it's not subjective. All this plot armor takes me out of the story so much. It's a war movie, but feels like a superhero movie
@@mystkprophet1593 haha we could almost smell him. Almost. In the future of cinema you can smell him for sure.
Almodt every war movie do this since platoon, you can also say that for movie like pearl hardor, doesn't male it any better...
3:00 lol AT gun crew in prepared concealed position, static, firing at barn-door sized target that is moving directly towards them, at actually pretty close range, misses several times. Moving tank returns fire, hits them.
This movie has the biggest plot armor in Holywood history,. Hell even John McClane envy them.
What should happen on paper and what happens on the battlefield are all to often directly opposite.
Improbable, not impossible.
@@SircoleYT Also by this point in the war, Germany was fielding troops with little to no training. Fury’s crew, except for the newbie, had been fighting and surviving since Africa.
@@rotorheadv8 You can see that the AT crews hit the burning trucks in the field prior to the tanks arriving just fine, gun is adjusted, aim is calculated, all you have to do then is wait for the tanks and trucks to align and boom job done. This scene is a load of shit.
The lock-on time on those panzerfausts, man... uff
"How do you know they are dead. Are you a DOCTOR?" Best line in the movie
He should know the kid isn't a doctor. What an egghead!
@@hiseverest9074 The point is keep killing them even though they DEAD
Before guns, it was the throat cutters job to make sure the other battalion was dead dead after melees or skirmishes.
No kill like overkill
It's the real leader voice in the real war, make sure you don't miss anyone, if you miss, they can kill you.
the best line is in the movie is the best job i ever had ,when their waiting for the germans drinking ,
As a german I say:
Why are we aiming like stormtroopers in every movie? 😂
Because its an American propaganda movie...and the good guy should live...
Because gringo movie. Hail Deutschland
it's an issue of scaling. While in reality, the germans were quite efficient, in movie world, there's a budget. There's a casting budget, an effects budget and a logistics budget. Not every movie can afford to show a full scale battle with 1000 extras being blown away by the squad, so the cheapest way to achieve the ultimate resolution (with the U.S. victory) is to just have the OPFOR miss a lot.
I mean, you lost
@@SoulSonder26 so many good answers. And there comes you.
Your granddaddy may think differently.
The Germans would've likely won that battle if this scene was realistic. They had superior firepower and the element of surprise. Those are PAK 40 7.5CM anti-tank guns, which are super accurate, and that's not overstating it even the slightest. They can end a Sherman tank at 1500 meters. Sherman tanks are like paper to them at the distance in this clip. It's 75MM armor at best, compared to a gun that can penetrate twice that at that distance. The German soldiers also carried portable AT launchers.
You’re a dumbass who clearly doesn’t understand anything but I’ll try to be coherent for you. The Germans staggered their attacks to draw in the Americans further into a potion of no retreat. If they all fired at once, yeah they might have done more damage but then it would have given the Americans a chance to retreat. The Germans plan did not work obviously.
Germans were robbed bad in this film. Even american officers use german uniforms in this movie.
PaK 40 would struggle against a late model Sherman at 1500 meters. Don't oversell it.
If this were realistic, the PaK battery would fire once, and the M4s would WP the entire tree line while withdrawing. Hell, the infantry probably wouldn't have been pinned there in the first place because local mortar batteries would have been brought into action against the tree line.
@@revolrz22 Best reply I've seen yet.
WP... sad that most don't know/were never taught what that round is/was/could do.
"The Germans would've likely won that battle if this scene was realistic..."
the movie has its flaws but theres no denying 4:17 is just a badass shot
It looks like lasers from Star Wars or any other science fiction film
@@JustRememberWhoYoureWorkingFor Bro, George Lucas pulled the colors of the blasters shots from real-life WW2 usage. The Germans and American forces really used, respectively, green and red tracer rounds for their machine guns in order to help line up their fire.
@@JustRememberWhoYoureWorkingFor These are called tracer rounds, and.. are a real thing.
Actually, the round ricochet is by far the most badass part of that. It does a fantastic job in capturing how extremely fast and violent such a round is, and also that A) they can in fact ricochet, (Hollywood has done little at all to suggest that shells can actually not immediately gasoline-explosion things they hit), and B) it reinforces on a visceral level that tanks are armored behemoths capable of shrugging off poorly angled hits from weapons otherwise capable of wrecking them.
@@LSKennedy78 ah that’s interesting, I was really confused why the MG42 shot green lasers, you know…
I love how the German force patiently awaited thier turn to shoot, MG and the 2 PAK 40's, kinda like an old kung fu movie where the group of baddies would do the same thing, allowing thier certain doom. Great cinematic scene but B.S. accuracy.
Yeah, I noticed that guy who came up with the panzerfaust had time enough to get off the shot but didn't for some reason...thought it was weird.
No american soldiers were harmed in the making of this film.
@@andreasmartin7942 bruh every tank but Fury is gone by the end of the movie
Said someone who has no idea how tactical combat works.............
@@cryptozoomauler5505 Because not every part of a tank can be destroyed, there are certain regions you can hit to totally put a tank out of action. With a one-man panzerfaust unit you get one shot from that range and if it isn't a kill shot it's pointless. You can't just shoot randomly at that range. So it really wasn't unrealistic at all. There were elements of this scene that were unrealistic, just not that one.
3:09 is such an incredible shot!
Never seen the movie, but I just love the communication levels here. It's so unlike most dramatisations, but it shows you how much work goes into making a team actually work well in real life. Rather than some guy shouting "move out" and they all set off beautifully syncronised like a bunch of drones.
And the coord was life or death too, to keep from shooting each other.
When Michael Pena says "This ain't pretty you know, it's what we do." That line hits hard. Had a coworker that was in Iraq and was on the phone with a customer that was another veteran. I was on a call myself and wasn't listening in completely but knew he was arguing with the customer. Then I heard him say "Look, we did what we did cause we were told to do it." And I felt like everyone in the room knew what he was talking about. War is Hell.
War isn't hell. War is war and hell is hell, and out of the two, war is a lot worse. In any religion only sinners go to hell. In war, there are plenty of innocent people.
@@peterpeterson4800 That plus you know, there's no such thing as hell, but there's definitely such thing as war.
In other words "we were just following orders." Not a valid excuse. Not for the losing side, anyway.
Germans: perfectly annihilating those half-tracks, knowing the range they destroyed them.
Germans when tanks arrive: miss every fucking shot they shoot.
Hollywood.
Edit: my first ever 1 000 likes, holy damn.
Edit 2: C'mon, I know the movie had to have some proper action, I'm just saying it could had been somehow more realistic, I liked the movie in the end.
What movie are you watching? In this one they score a hit that ricochets off the tank. Those anti tank gunners are late war noobs, likely scared out of their minds seeing tanks that will shoot back, and they know it. This is not so unrealistic as people say in these comments.
@@jacksons1010 Those late war noobs probably still had more experience than the just arrived to war US troops. Anti tank crew in german military was pretty deadly, even at the end of the war, that tanks coming straight forward to a strongly defended position would be hurt badly. It doesnt make sense that tank crews are able to hit a partially dug anti tank gun firing from a moving platform while anti tank cannons cant take a direct hit on a tank in open field.
yeah people never panic or screw up when they're in danger and being shot at
good point
@@masnoesnada How the hell do you figure that? Germans stationed in France had a grand total of 2 months combat experience, if they were involved in any of the fighting to bring down the fancy boys. By 1945, Americans had 3 years of combat experience, near constant, as opposed to sitting on their asses for 5 years.
@@tremedar 3 years? The same troops? When was D-Day again and who fought there? All of pacific theatre and northern Africa/ Italy troops? Bold statement.
The hip fire with the M1 from the infantry as they fan out is killing me.
You can't miss fast enough to win.
Welcome to the real world tactic of marching fire. Patton unironically loved it, and the BAR was literally designed for it.
Well, of course this is a bit unfair. I mean, the Americans have a Brad. And everyone knows those are indestructible.
Pitt learned everything he knows about Sherman tank fighting from Oddball......he just didn't use it for some reason.
Pitt and his tanks would've had a much easier time if they'd simply eaten wine & cheese, and caught some Rays using tin foil that morning, and played loud gypsy music when confronting the Germans. It's a PROVEN technique......it worked for Oddball.
SPOILERS!!!
Literally dies in the movie though.
@@Sqied He just 'expired'. Older model.
Honestly, I love this movie but in real life with the positioning and firepower. Those Paks would’ve probably ate those tanks up. Pak teams were notorious for being fast, accurate, and able to focus fire.
88 would go right thru and some guys bunched behind it and keep going
What I learnt after watching this.
Germans had green lazers. Allies had red lazers.
of course how are you going to tell who is who without different laser colors
Different countries actually did use different tracer colors - though it’s a little dramatized for movies like this one to differentiate between firing sources
tracers, not lasers.
@@PlaceToPlaceKC No phasers!
That's the level of sheer knowledge one gets from hyper-realistic movies like "Fury"! Also, one apparently learns new acronyms; Light Amplification by Ztimulated Emission of Radiation.
One thing this scene has done right is the chaos of communication. Not many movies insert chatters in the background, they add a sense of chaotic so well.
I love tank movies. I’m kind of biased because I was a 19K (tanker) in the army. I loved the M1A2 and all the ass lock-in it did. I did it for nine wonderful years and said no more. I had my fair share of being gone all the damn time. We trained and trained and trained. One of the best times of my life.
My favorite tanker quote is a driver or gunner standing in front of his abrams for a selfie, a reply saying "Man those things are so cool." And the tanker replying with, "It is a massive piece of shit." I think he said something later about how it always broke down lol
Literally all tankers love this movie. The only people who hate it are Wehraboos and War Thunder nerds. Sure it's not accurate in a lot of scenes, but it feels very authentic, they especially nailed the bond and communication between the crewmembers.
So, did you watch Tank Girl?
No.way the Germans would have missed from that distance
storm troopers in training ... they already passed basic ... couldnt hit the broadside of a barn ... so they set them out to stop tanks ;)
Plot armor is the strongest armor known to man
Likely inexperienced crews, it is April 1945 during the movie and for all we know these guys could be new recruits with little to no training.
@@KillerT-Bone new recruits arent dressed like one of the fking elite units in the german army lol its just plot armor
@@hazmatbob1519 actually, in the late war often times new units mostly comprised of young boys and older men were given fallschirmjäger uniforms. The SS often did wide recruitment campaigns in occupied countries like Luxembourg where men were shipped off with total unwillingness to fight which could possibly be a good explanation to why the Nazi soldiers in this movie performed so poorly.
That first anti-tank shot missing is pure Hollywood I think
3:48 bro was shooting until he got a hit marker
Every scene I've watched from Fury is like if the movie they were filming in Tropic Thunder was serious.
LOL - that sounds about right.
I might watch the movie just to see if it's dumb enough to be entertaining - lining up tanks and slowly creeping towards fortified anti-tank guns is so obviously stupid to everyone with even a basic understanding of how guns work that I imagine this movie must be full of inanity.
My Uncle was a Tank Commander under Patton. 3rd Armored Div. He grew up in Porterville and used to go watch the men Train in the desert. He fought at the Battle of the Bulge. His Career ended in Korea when his legs were run over by a Tank he was sleeping under.
... ouch.
Pitt and his tanks would've had a much easier time if they'd simply eaten wine & cheese, and caught some Rays using tin foil that morning, and played loud gypsy music when confronting the Germans. It's a PROVEN technique......it worked for Oddball.
Woof Woof!
Yea in a gay ass Hollywood crap film
Oddball did have a slightly different agenda mind, the war was just a nice distraction for him and his crew whilst they worked out how to work the free market to their advantage......
And a infinitely better movie,.. Kelly's Heroes is a true classic! accurate no but a much better story with excellent acting..
Hey Moriarty,,,,Stop it with those negative waves!
I like how the Germans had their trenches in pieces with no escape route to the perfect tree line behind them, make every military sense possible!!
Just like the Russians of today! They are unfortunately dying in droves because they are not capable of fighting Ukraine
@@davidt294 Did they not say the same about the Syrian army! It is always amazing to watch westerners drawn in fantasy!
They weren't trenches. They were foxholes.
@@jffry890 trenches, short but deffo not foxholes. So next time look with your eys open.
@@movableorigins4194 I guess it's a fantasy we kicked the Germans asses, and were pretty much the only ones doing that, Japanese as well. The world was getting its asses handed to them till we arrived. Like it our not we WON the day. Period.
I am so glad I never had to fight in war. I can’t imagine the horror, the carnage, the loss and suffering - on both sides.
At this point, I have watched so many Fury clips on youtube that I should just re watch the film on Netflix and be done with it lol
Those weren't turrets. Turrets are hard, reinforced placements. They were machine gun "nests", entrenched ground troops, and a few scattered fortified tank emplacements.
Actually they're pillboxes, not turrets. The latter word is used for tanks and ships' rifles.
@@billnelson3405 yep pillboxes are armored, normally via conctrete, its what a lot of tanks with howitzers(lower velocity guns) were made to take out
this man there got the eye of an EAGLE
Everyone is a know it all that seems to know nothing
@@billnelson3405 Correct! The Maginot line was pillboxes and concrete fortifications.
The most implausible story line in war movie history. Troy fell faster than that tank.
You should look into the story of the last stand of the Raseiniai Heroes.
@@willythemailboy2 why? If you're so up on it, why not say something interesting?
@@stevek8829 Because I don't feel like copy/pasting an article for you.
The short version is a single Soviet KV2 held up an entire German advance for more than a day, killing everything around it until it ran out of ammunition during the night and German infantry finally swarmed it past its machine guns to get grenades in through the hatches.
Maybe if you weren't such a douche or a historical illiterate you'd have heard of such things before.
@@stevek8829 At Raseiniai, a single Soviet KV1 stopped at a crossroads and held up elements of the 6th Panzer Division for 24 hours before finally being destroyed. So this type of shit does happen in real life. Fury just dramatizes it.
@@nikolakaravida9670 that KV-2 story is interesting, but there are no verifiable accounts. The crew were killed and the supposed action isn't written up by the Germans either.
The tank was isolated on a dirt road surrounded by empty soft ground. It's mobility thus restricted. It didn't seem like good terrain for a stand. Maybe the 50 mm guns that first opposed it weren't adequate.
In the actual battle, Kremlin lost 704 of 749 tanks.
It's certainly interesting, but it seems unlikely considering how fast the Germans took out that large armada of tanks. The Soviets were not above creating heroic stories to counter the actual shattering defeats. This was right after the start of Barbarossa.
A picture of the supposed tank shows it not at a crossroads or near any cover.
Thanks for getting me to look it up, but I'll have to think this is Soviet fake news during the Blitzkrieg.
This scene had the pretty laser lights of a starwars battle, and the same stormtrooper accuracy.
I think if the movie focused on how dangerous the Germans and Americans really were in combat equally, rather than giving the Germans Stormtrooper aim, the movie would’ve benefited more from a realism AND Hollywood standpoint.
Hacksaw Ridge does that extremely well with the Japanese and how tough they were to fight.
Exactly, this movie shows the Germans as absurdly inept throughout. It could have been a decent film, but it was so wildly unrealistic that it's almost comical instead.
@@jasonpatterson8091 Because at this point in the war, they were inept, inexperienced, and incompetent in almost all ways aside from the absolute die-hard SS troops. Even then, they still had a lot of new and green guys that couldn't fight nearly as well under pressure like those who had actual combat experience. Not excusing the stormtrooper aim - or the AT troop waiting 10 whole seconds to fire - but to say that the germans were equally as deadly as Americans this late into the war is some wehrmacht cope-tier shilling lol.
@@mistergoodfellow5847 No just no.
there were plenty of experienced germans fighting late war. stop spreading misinformation.
there's even in movie evidence that they are fighting experienced soldiers.
medals on the tiger commanders uniform for instance shows several accolades achieved through active combat that a rookie wouldn't get.
the pak emplacements in this scene has notched plenty kills on the barrels of their guns, and had just previously eliminated a mechanized unit, thus they knew the distance, and were prepared and zeroed in.
not only that, but they were using cannons known for being easy to handle and very good at the range they are presented.
and here they are shooting at what is point blank for their gun type and cant hit a large slow moving target getting closer and closer.
even un-experienced crews would have taken out a sherman or 2.
@@Softpaw1996 You're misunderstanding my point - i'm not disputing any of that whatsoever. You're countering an argument that literally doesn't exist on my end.
The entire scene is unrealistic, and I agree, at least one or two of those shermans should've been absolutely annihilated - but the point stands that people here are vastly overestimating the average(Keyword here, not all) german troops ability, combat experience, training, and morale at this period of the war - which as I stated, is still wehrmacht-tier cope posting.
@@mistergoodfellow5847 well whatever then.
Imagine you're riding a Tiger but your enemy has a really tank with a really thick vibranium 6.9 inch plate plot armor.
the added head crush from the tank was brutal, but amazing.
I LOVED the SQUISH as that German BEGGED for his life (stupidly) as the tank rolled-over and SQUEEZED his head until the awesome SQUISH as it EXPLODED
When a historical film sacrifices accuracy for atmosphere, it's only ever going to be half as good as it could have been.
To this day, the audio in this film is golden. Everything from the muted and gargled comms chatter to the deep gutteral clunks of the guns and whistle of the shots.
Is the film itself realistic? No, any armchair general could easily ramble off the numerous and egregious errors this film has.
'Armchair general'? Nothing so salubrious is required. A 'rickety-stool general' would have a laundry list of issues in this scene.
Too bad realism is what I expect from a historical movie...
It’s so bad I would ban it but Americans love to show how much better they are and people love amounts of killing in movies. It was war but I could also say brad pitta character kinda turned into a psycho murderer at the end speaking perfect German
4:25 cracks me up every time
** In case you were wondering, Norman, aka Logan Lerman, is quite possibly the most talented actor to ever enter Hollywood. Look at him on 3:10 to Yuma as well. Interviewers asked if Brad Pitt gave him acting advice or if Jon Bernthal did the same and he said “No, they actually asked me for advice.” He is an actor’s actor.
I didn’t watch this movie for a long time for some reason, but once I did, I loved it.
I watch as soon as it came, and for reason of lack of realism, I hated it.
I was disgusted by how cheesy cringey and innaccurate their Star Wars tracer battle was. It’s basically a 12 yr olds world of tanks battle or war thunder battle
Never knew so much tracer rounds were used in WW2. Looks just like star wars.
Artistic license. I just pretend like it was a supply issue. They either got the wrong ammo or somebody new incorrectly boxed it at the factory. Do I have to do all the thinking on here?
I seem to remember reading that it was one bullit in ten... and them guns have a very rapid rate of fire
@@paulklee5790 Not that high though, the movie is far from accurate in terms of tactics used, nobody is loading a tracer every other 1 or 2 bullets like they show here, the Germans aren't waiting in line to fire (second AT cannon only shoots after the first is destroyed), AT cannons zeroed in on that field (as they already shot down equipment before) would not miss that much, WWII tanks would not be shooting whilst driving, or at least not hitting anything reliably whilst driving through a field, inside a tank you can't have reasonably quiet conversations due to the noise, a panzerfaust does not take minutes to aim (just point and shoot it) and so on.
Fun movie, but do not take it as a history lesson beyond 'war is bad'.
@@someguy4915 i took it as "how war changes people" and werent most tracers every 5 or 10 rounds?
@@charlescourtwright2229 Oh I'm not disagreeing with that, the movie makes a strong point quite well about war changing people and destroying humanity but in terms of technical accuracy there's a few things that go beyond taking creative liberties into just making stuff up.
The 3v1 Sherman vs Tiger scene is quite exciting but obviously in reality rather ridiculous, in the end the movie is good enough to allow most (myself included) to suspend their disbelief and enjoy it, just don't use the movie as an exact reference for history.
What's with all tracer rounds? The enemy may as well post a large neon yellow flag that reads, "We're over here!"
I was an 11Delta in an armor unit stationed in Germany in the 1970's. This scene is quite authentic. Especially the terrain. It looks exactly like Germany in the countryside.
Yes, the trees and grass definitely look very German.
Fury was such a great movie...cant imagine what it was really like to be a tank crew in ww2 and the constant danger they were in
Too many mistakes were made in Fury..... The Ronson was so cramped that there was hardly any room in them... But Hollywood made the inside that big, you could fit an entire three piece suite in one....
@Marc Geerdink Definitely!!!! Couldn't agree with you more...
@Anakin Skywalker Go down to Bovington Tank Museum, as there a couple there and you will see it's not "a myth"... You're allowed to look inside, so you can see for yourself.
@Anakin Skywalker Then it's not "a myth" then is it?... I'm not really interested in the tiger. Why? Because my Father was a tank driver in the second world war, who saw action first hand in the Ardennes, Operation Market Garden and every tank crew were shit scared of the tiger. Mechanically, the tiger was a bag of nails, but the fire power was something else. Hence the nickname "the Ronson", was given to the Sherman tank by the Germans.
@Anakin Skywalker Oh whatever bud, you have your opinions and seem to be the number one expert on such matters, so we'll leave it with that okay? Enjoy the rest of your day and God bless you and your family. Take care.
This is actually one badass picture. I have it on DVD. Brad plays a helluva grizzled seen a lot leadership role. They have some scenes they dropped out the final cut they should've left in. I like the crew of the Fury, soldiers. They should edit it add the deleted scenes and redistribute it.
Awesome, the dvd worth buying then? Blue ray?
Stellar and riveting! The scene vs. the larger, more powerful Panzer is fantastic!!
This movie is a complete fantasy of what tank battle is like.
The tanks pushing up with troops at the back is possible.
The Kraut High Velociry missing shots at that range is impossible.
“How do you know they are dead? Are you a doctor?”
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LOL...cuz they aint got no heads......?
Love this film more and more each time I watch it. It’s message is unapologetically raw and uncompromising: *_War is shit._*
I will never believe that the German artillery aces were able to miss from such a distance. A typical American movie, nothing more.
As a veteran soldier you obviously know that once you have a sight of 4 enemy tanks and several infantry units you should start shooting the machine gun directly to the strongest armor of the shermans to reveal it's position and then get shot immediately, and also shoot the fucking sky with your 83 mm, one at once, instead to the fucking sherman with the enlarged canon that's only like 500 mts. on plain, open field
Those were Pak 40, 75mm German AT guns. They should have had two Sherman kills right there. These guns were more accurate than depicted in the movie.
Guys in foxholes would let the tanks roll over them, then hit them from behind with grenades?
make this guy a commander! fucking genius
@@nightfalls5462 i would recommand him for the silver stars, the medal of honor and of course, promoted to obersturmbangruppenstaggenalarmenwarffer generaloberst rank.
@@xavierzlotorowiez316 i dont want to read that last thing
Gives the term ‘ridiculous’ a whole new meaning
He forgot to turn off godmod and onehitkill.
5:42 "FUUUUUUCK!!" holy fucking shit man..
always a "i cant be here" dude in every american war movie
There’s always a “I can’t be here” dude in war though
News flash, no soldier actually wants to be in a war.
Its also really scary to know that any battle with an enemy tank, that the last shot could be your last. Must have been really scary during that time
Amazing how thick that plot armour seems to be.... utterly ridiculous.
Drives me nuts when I see war movies with infantry firing rifles from the hips! Like come o !
Firing blanks has less recoil! Lol obviously!
"It's just a ricochet..." yeah right, i almost got my head blown off.
Imagine the hearing of the people inside the tank that ricochetted the round.
Sun Tzu: Always deploy your infantry in the open in front of the available cover so the cameras can film their deaths.
Sun Tzu: Always abandon your most strategic airbase before you abandon a country that depended on you for 20 years.
I cant believe how quickly that embarrassing Afghanistan retreat was forgotten.
the infantry slowly coming around the side of the tanks and walking slowly while firing their rifles from the hip makes my heart hurt
Cinematography and soundtrack wise, this is one of the best WW2 films ever.
brad pitt's face is like an insurance for a modern critics acclaimed films. He deserves more
I love how the soldiers weapons had zero recoil at all, and somehow were hitting MOVING TARGETS from a pretty decent range without aiming at all, must be on some seal team 6 delta force shit .
The recoil part is to be expected cause they always use blanks
I love how there’s a bunch of “military experts” in the comment section
I am a captain in the local defenceforces and as usual the German act stupid so Cock can win. typical amerwank
Love that Gordo tried his best to train Norman on the job
Never enough of this scene! Classic!
Hollywood Bullshit
Everyone is ripping this movie apart because it's Hollywood and not accurate. But I think it's really neat to have a WWII movie based on soldiers in the tank lifestyle :)
I totally agree. They really nailed the daily life of the tank crew. Although the movie has some flaws it is still really good because it has no standard plot like "flawless hero America comes to save the day again".
It would be more neat if the movie wasn't completely unrealistic and stupid, don't you think?
This isn't what it was like in World War II - this is a fantasyland created in the imaginations of privileged Hollywood elites who don't know anything about war.
Great scene but back then were they hip firing long rifles?? 5:20
Looks cool...
When war closer to you, then you think, this movies hit different
Love rhe movie. Really wish they had not removed so many scenes that gave the rest of the crew depth.
Man Michael Peña really brought it in this movie. It’s hard to see him being so mean
I thought he was miscast in this movie along with labeouf or whatever
@@Cheezwizzz No he was a good choice. War changes a man.
@Bandito Not talking about his race, I’m talking about the actor himself
@@kennethjohnson4280 War changes a man? I’m talking about the actor??
@@Cheezwizzz yea they didn't belong in this film
I love the shot of the modern powerline, in the "On my line, on my line!" scene! (:56/1:07)
It's a film not a documentary. Of course Brad Pitt isn't going to die at this stage.
A stationary German 88 that was already zeroed on previous kills .has zero accuracy, but a mobile tiger in a latter scene has 100% accuracy.
Great scene but bs realism. In reality that single 88 would spell an early grave. And that’s why we use artillery’s support! And smoke!
75 mm PAK 40 AT gun. 88 mm Tiger. A ricochet is morel likely to happen if you don't hit the target straight on, as in this scene.
You forgot that the shermans has a verry good accuracy when they moving :D
It's called having an elite crew. You don't issue a Tiger to a bunch of recruits. You hear from the radio chatter the Tiger is experienced on par with Fury.
Those weren’t 88’s.
@@spinetanium3296 Tiger tank is an elite unit, probably due to limited units the Nazi's only allowed experienced tankers to use it.
04:18... Magnificent.
When you look through binoculars you see one circle, if you see two circles on then it will be double vision.
Its movie TV license, once circle is telescope, two is binoculars.
@@joefish6091 not always, I’ve seen a few film binocular single circle but it’s nearly always double
@@joefish6091 like trying to force a locked door open with a shoulder barge, if you try this you’ll break your collar bone.
Brad Pitt should have got an Oscar for this movie.
German anti tank guns were very well known not to kill shermans in a totaly open field. 🤭
Not these ones - they had plot armour.
They are towed anti-tank guns, not "machine gun turrets"...
They’re flak 88 and they’re primarily anti air
There's a fundamental tension here: for a good movie, you need a simple, bright story.
Actual battle is mostly chaos: folks shooting at once, miscommunication, minute details become key...
Its why I love Dunkirk so much: they show how one ignored element (fog of war) by itself it can wreck an army
there's no tension whatsoever. Just alot of plot armor and lucky hits from the "heroes"
@@Softpaw1996 I meant a different tension: in a nutshell, its the difference between what you and I wanna see vs what most people want. People like simple stories and messages; real world is grey as hell
@@Softpaw1996 there is tension. They’re being fired at by high-velocity guns that could kill them in an instant. Also, movies can be good with plot armor, and it’s quite necessary so the suspenseful scenes don’t end with the protagonists dying immediately.
The laser-like tracers make this scene look like a Star Wars battle.
Pretty much until the end of the war there was a good chance that a German veteran unit, that was still in good order and had supplies, would put up a hard fight. Which is why Americans usually called in air strikes and artillery when they faced stiff resistance.
Hollywood however depicts Germans as idiots, who cannot shoot straight, while the heroic US infantry walks all over them. It's nonsense, unrealistic and ahistorical. Also Fury is idiotic, because why would the Fury commander sacrifice his whole crew, except the young guy, at the end of the movie, to stop a column of German infantry, which would not have prolonged the war by a single day?
yeah, I thought that was ridiculous even while I was watching it. There's no reason for anyone on either side to sacrifice their life at that point.
american movies ..they all would be dead in a real fight..
I’m pretty sure they were inspired by that tank in ww1 that repelled waves of Germans. It would make sense in ww1 as there was little to no AT, but this movie was ehh… entertaining?
@@themanwithallthewrongopini3551 the problem with that final scene is it was a German SS unit (ie. they knew what they were doing) and they had Panzerfausts. Other than that final scene, I really enjoyed the movie.
@Graf Zeppelin just shut up and enjoy the movie, or don't. But don't be such an idiot to expect anything more from a fictional story. If you wring your hands and clutch your pearls this much over a hollywood production you are in for a stressful time.
Definitely loved this battle. I don't know why they are advancing so close together or why they would attack a position unbuttoned. Actually if I were the commander I would have started hitting the treelinedwith the tank fire and machine gun fire as soon as I started advancing on the field. That would keep their heads down while I did the advance. You would also think that AirPower would have softened up the positions before advance. Oh well it's fun to watch. No 4K showing up here.
So you loved the scene yet can easily figure out all the problems in it....
If they were spread further apart, the Infantry stacked up behind the Tanks would have been easy targets from enemy crossfire.