Love Pinot Noir. Sipping Pinot Noir while viewing this UA-cam. I'm a native Californian that has watched the wine industry grow over 61 years. This includes the Chateau Montelena historic "Judgment at the Paris" competition that gave credibility to California wine making, and launched Calistoga/Napa wine as a complainant producer of wine to the world! I live in the Russian River appellation, which is a California Pinot Noir Haven.
I’d love to see a 10 min profile of the Jura in France. Love their funky oxidized nature and rustic winemaking style. Poulsard, Trousseau, Savignin, etc. LOVE your channel. Subscribed!
Love, love Pinot Noir's! My favorite of course from Burgandy, France. However, living here in Germany I have also come accros some incredible Pinot Noir known as " Spaetburgunder " especially from Badden as Konstatin alluded to. Recently I purchased a bottle of 2017 Abyssus from the Pfalz at a cost of 110,00 Euros and it what absolutely out of this world! Pinot Noirs continue to rank as one of the most expensive wines in the world.
Konstantin, I prefer Pinot Noir most of the time. And I prefer my Pinot to be from Oregon. I don't have a great pallet for wine but I do prefer it over California. Of course if I could ever find a Village of Premier Cru from Burgundy, I would love to try it. But at $90 a bottle, I'll have to stick with Oregon. BTW- I'm very much enjoying your vireos. Very informative and funny.
What not to love about Pinot Noir, that is the reason I got into wine!! Of course California’s and burgundy are among my favorites, but I had the chance to try this Pinot nero, blauburgunder Alto Adige, Meczan , while visiting Patrica in Italy, and I fell in love with its fresh and vibrant flavor. To bad I can’t find it the USA.
Hi Konstantin. Really enjoyed this and many of your videos but my first reply. As a New Zealander have been brought up with some of our great New World style Pinots especially from Central Otago and Martinborough. Have just spent 2 years living in Bonn and loved walking the villages of the nearby Ahr Valley and tasting some excellent Spatburgunder. Devastated to see what the recent floods have done - especially to our favourite village Ahrweiler. If any want recommendations of NZ Pinots happy to oblige.
Servus, ich hab heuer meinen "Sommelier Österreich" gemacht und nächstes Jahr steht der Diplom Sommelier an, find deine Videos super lehrreich! Grüße aus Österreich
Big fan of pinot noir, drinking more grenache blends at the moment with my favorite from Australia Torbreck Barossa Valley Grenach/Shiraz/ Mourvedre 2017.Very nice wine, high alcohol needs to be decanted.May be looking for a decent pinot noir from Oregon soon.Great video!
Love pinot Noir, especially when it develops earthy farmyard mushroom aroma's.. Was lucky enough to visit several wineries in New Zealand central Otago and they are superb 🍷👍
Thank you for the great session. I have tried only a few bottle of Pinot Noir as a wine beginner, but I think I love a red wine grape variety which contains medium to high acidity in it like Pinot Noir, Sangiovese, etc. I think It would be more helpful for a beginner like me if you could explain the major characteristics that each countries' terroir have when explaining the main production countries of grape varieties.
We just purchased a new home that came with a partnership in a shared Pinot Noir vineyard in the Santa Cruz mountains. We are one of the closest vineyards to the coast so the conditions can be challenging due to the coastal fog in the morning. That being said, it has produced some excellent wines. I love your videos and appreciate you background on this important varietal.
Hello Konstanin, I have watch many of your videos and have enjoyed them. I noticed you have had 2 wine from Sashi Moorman and Raj Parr. Their Domaine De La Cote vineyard is in Lompoc, CA where I live. How did you hear of them? I love their Pinot's(our favorite) have you had any other good Pinot's from the Santa Rita Hills in Santa Barbara County? another favorite of ours in Lompoc is Sea Smoke.
Thanks. I have visited the vineyards with Sashi Morman and have met Raj many years ago in London. Chanin, The Hilt, Racines and Tyler are all really good
Love Pinot Noir! Despite living on the East Coast of the US, my wife and I have made many pilgrimages to Burgundy, Champagne, Tasmania, Victoria, Sonoma, and Carneros. Burgundy is still the queen, particularly the villages of Volnay and Chambolle Musigny.
One of the ironic jokes of Sideways is Miles’s criticism of both Merlot and Cabernet Franc while having a bottle of 61 Cheval Blanc as his most prized wine bottle. Cheval Blanc is almost always a blend of exclusively Merlot and Cabernet Franc. There may be some Cabernet, usually less than 5%, but frequently not.
Cheval Blanc wasn't supposed to be in the movie...it was supposed to be Petrus...100% Merlot but they couldn't get permission so they went with CB for the cab franc inside joke....
Love your channel! Pinot Noir and Burgundy are the best! Just had a 2013 Marsannay from Méo Camuzet! In general I had several 2013s from Burgundy this year. Afaik, it is not a good vintage, but they are just delicious now!
I fell in love with Pinot Noir after taking a wine appreciation class and being introduced to Musigny, Corton, Bonne Mars, Clos Vougeot when they were affordable. I wish I'd never got to taste them since they are mostly well beyond my means. What is a burgundy lover to do when they've been to the mountain top and are now left in the valley of the lesser growths. Also age becomes an issue...my age. I don't have twenty years to age my most recently acquired treasures. What is a wine lover to do fi you are in a similar situation?
Phil there is no solution and I feel your pain. I discovered these wines in the very early 80's, when you could buy 6 to 10 year old Grand Cru from top producers for $15 to $20. These are the Pinot Noir a that shaped my palate and ruined it forever as prices skyrocketed. I try to find up and coming producers in the "minor" villages or the Cote Chalonnaise for both red and white Bourgogne. This is especially effective in warmer vintages with an extended harvest window. Another great area for white Bourgogne and Bourgogne styled wines are Vezeley, Cote de Catalanes, the Ardeche (Louis Latour). For Bourgogne styled Pinot, that is tougher but Warm vintage Premier Cru Savigny, Beaune, Santenay, Givry, Mercury, Per and or Cote de Beaune Village from producers that regularly declassify Premier Cru into that blend are your best bets. Outside of that top Alsace Pinot, German Spatburgunder, Morningstar Peninsula, Sonoma Coast, Santa Rita Hills and Willamette Pinot Noir often mimic that Burgundian style. Some producers have an uncanny ability to do this. Hope that helps...happy hunting!
Hi Konstantin, recent subscriber here and loving the content. My first “real” wine experience was drinking Pinot Noir. I went on a student exchange to Tasmania from Scotland in 2005, many great producers there and I fell in love, now here I am still in Australia! Now in Victoria and thirsty for deeper wine knowledge. Keep up the great work and stay thirsty to you too.
Liechtenstein Hofkellerei Vaduz have also very good Pinot Noirs and prices are between 15 and 35 $ . Switzerland Grabünden Region has also remarkable Pinot Noirs and they are in taste very close to Burgundy Pinots.
Hi Konstantin, great channel! Love your videos! It rekindled my interest in wine. I was wondering, what is that red bible of wine you showed in this video?
I consider it the most exciting variety out there. It's subtle, focused, savory and at times all of the above. It really shows its sense of place when farmed and vinified properly. In the US, some of the best examples come from Santa Barbara County and Sonoma. The old world examples are pricey and getting pricier. Hard to find good Burgs without breaking the bank.
love pinot. a secret imho are swiss and alsacian (from Elsass) pinots. also, could you do a blind tasting with a burgundy, one "rest of France", one German, one Oregon, one Tasmanian, one new Zealand, one swiss pinot? would love your view on pinot around the world!
Great video I enjoyed it very much. But yes it is difficult to really enjoy a PN no a budget if you have any recommendations I would love to hear them.keep the videos coming👍
Are there any nice examples readily available in the United States you might recommend? Your videos are very well done- entertaining and very informative. Please keep them coming!
Russian River Valley is a great AVA to look for California Pinot Noir, my personal favorites are made by MacRostie (Klopp Ranch is the best I've had from them). Pinot Noir is also by far the most planted red grape around where I live in northern Oregon; Domaine Serene is a great widely-distributed choice, and my personal favorites come from Sokol Blosser.
Hey Konstantin! Pinot Noir is one of my favorites and I have tried Australian, American, French, and New Zealand examples. My favorite Pinot Noir region is Gevrey Chambertin in France, Ata Rangi from New Zealand, and Bream Creek from Tasmania. I prefer pinot dominant champagnes like Bollinger. To me, it is probably the friendliest of food wines. Cheers!
I love Pinot noir. In fact, Meiomi makes an outstanding Pinot noir. It’s one of the greatest tasting wines I’ve encountered. I’m looking forward to trying sone French iterations as a comparison this weekend. Great video!
as i commented on one of your other videos i've had some PN but when i got a chilled spaetburgunder with a excellent fish dish i got more interested in it
Hello from Vancouver Island, Canada (please Google it) where are you will be very surprised we are making some absolutely spectacular and unique pinot noir. I love this grape - When it’s badly made it is so flat, but when it’s well-made it is sublime.
Alexandre, I live on Vancouver Island so I am in a position to buy them, even if only available locally or at the winery . Are there any you would recommend in particular?
TBF in Sideways Paul Giamatti's character was likely referring to the fact that wines are marketed as varietals in the US, so, ordering a "Merlot" is going to get you some gas station plonk, which, if we're being honest, can be surprisingly good.
By the way, Pinot Noir is also by far the most widely planted grape in Switzerland, with some good examples coming from Bündner Herrschaft, Valais, Hallau and Ottoberg.
I made a mistake to visit Burgundy. After doing that my old non-french favorite pinot noirs were no longer that interesting as before.. Sometimes it's better not to try the expensive stuff at all :)
Marks and Spencer used to do a Pinot Noir from Pfaltz ( sorr,y Spatzburgunder ) for £9.99p. It beat most average priced ( expensive?) French Pinot, hands down. Sadly they don't stock it any more.
Thanks Konstantin! Thank you for the great video. At the end of the video, did you say Pinot is “aged in bricks” to get the subtle flavors? I tried listening a few times and that’s what I am hearing!
Started growing Pinot noir in my garden (Belgium). Hopefully the changing weather conditions help me out to have a decent home made wine. Is this wine best used as a minocépage or is there room for some Cabernet Sauvignon for example? I have those in my garden as well.
Konstantin, your videos are a great introduction to grapes, regions, & wines. I wish there was something like this back in 2003/2004 when I started getting into wine. Pinot Noir is my favorite red grape, it accounts for about 22-23% of my cellar, followed closely by Nebbiolo-14% & Riesling-8%(All German). As far as my experiences with Pinot Noir, I've tried Pinot Noir from Burgundy, Champagne, Jura, Loire, Baden, Pfalz, Oregon, California, New York, Lombardia, Alto-Adige, New Zealand, Australia, Austria, Argentina, Chile, & Romania. I tend to prefer Burgundy, with Oregon closely behind. My epiphany Burgundy was a 2002 Ponsot Charmes Chambertin, and my current favorite producer in Burgundy is Henri Jouan. My favorite German Pinot Noir was 2013 Enderle & Moll Buntsandstein, followed closely by a 2010 Keller Frauenberg GG. What are some of your favorite producers in Burgundy? Have you ever traveled to the Willamette Valley in Oregon? If so, what producers did you like? If not, what producers would you want to visit in Oregon?
My jury is still out regarding Pinot Noir. 🤔 A lot of the low end Pinot's have quite a thin body. Something I have a hard time to like. In my experience I prefer the USA variants that tends to have a slightly bigger body. On the other hand some of the best wines I ever had was high end Pinot's. 😍 Of course the gap between a good and a bad wine is large with any grape, but the thin body part makes me suspicious every time someone offers, or order, a Pinot. 🙄
I live in Oregon where Pinot Nior is abundant, however, as many times as I have tried it from a variety of growers and vintages, it is not my favorite.
There are some exceptional wines coming out of Russian River. They are often more velvety and rich (compared to Santa Barbara and the Coastal vineyards in Sonoma) with a bit of Coca Cola flavor mixed into the cherry fruit aroma.
Great video. Can you please help me to describe the 'funky' you can get with good PN? I'm not sure how it is referred to in reviews I can only describe it as funky. Thanks.
At what point did Spätburgunder overtake Dornfelder and Lemberger (Blaufränkisch, Kekfrankos whatever you want to call it) as the most planted red grape in Germany? Clearly it has moved beyond the limited plantings in Baden/Würtemburg where it was normally found as a bit of an oddball before global warming? As someone who has studied for the MW I am curious as to when this shift in hardy cool climate grapes (capable of resisting harsh winter frosts) to Pinot (which is notoriously more delicate and finicky took place?
Great and informative video. I'm Fascinated by Pinot noir, waiting for covid restriction to be lifted to try "Pinot Noix" from Mosel. I'd also like to ask you: Is it worth to go after (not easy to get here) Pinot Noir from Grisons region in Switzerland?
@@KonstantinBaumMasterofWine They call the area "Burgundy of Switzerland" but that might be pretentious. The fact that you've never tasted something from there means that I'm probably not missing out much
I like Pinot Noir but I think your are right that entry level wines of this variety are rather weak and often seem to taste like some kind of red wine blended with water. I also haven't had one of the really great Pinot Noirs so far because in my personal opinion they are simply to expensive for but I really liked the "Beaune Clos de L'Ecu 1er Cru" of Domaine Faiveley (extremely fruity if drunk young which I did not expect to that extend especially not from a French wine), the wines of Friedrich Becker and also the ones made by Hanspeter Ziereisen.
Great topic as usual! ) But are you sure about Garganega "close" relationship with Pinot Noir? There are a several versions of its DNA ways - from Spain, Greece and via Sicily till Northern Italy itself... but Pinot Noir.. Of course, if to keep in mind that Pinot Noir is original Vitis Vinifera variety - it could be the "parent" to .....all :)
Yes, thinking about it father or mother might not be 100% accurate. Garganega is considered to br an ancestor of Pinot. In Jancis Robinson's book Grapes it is in the family tree of Pinot but it is not a "child" of Pinot. More like a great grandchild
@@KonstantinBaumMasterofWine Definitely, grapes DNA is a tough question! Every decade new research gives additional information or completely new overview for old, well-known varieties. As Italian Wine Scholar - by Wine Scholar Guild - I never before studied about relationship between Garganega and Pinot Noir as in my school as well in "Native Wine Grapes of Italy" of Ian D'Agata - my desk book :) But Ok, wine better to drink than debate about. Happy Syrah Day!!
I’ve had some sublime wine experiences. One of them a premier cru Bourgogne Clos de la Perriere 2006, mind blowing! With that said, chasing the magic dragon drinking cheap new world Pinot or some overrated (but never overpriced) Spätburgunder more often than not is somewhat disappointing.
If you appreciate the premiere cru and grand cru of Bourgogne... then why are you drinking cheap new world Pinot? Might I suggest drinking the premiere cru and grand cru from the new world instead? You will have to have them shipped across the world... but they will still be more affordable than our favourite burgundies! Ah Burgundy... my friend found a nice bottle of grand cru in our cellar... he remarked that we should sell it because it was worth $7000 NZ... and I replied... “if I sell it I won’t be able to taste it!!”
Not a big fan of Pinot Noir. I am more the Bordeaux Blend kind of guy. But recently the 2018 Neus Ingelheimer Spätburgunder Alte Reben blew me away. The nose had some intense Fireworks (not metaphorical, it really smells like fireworks).
I really like south african wines but have always found their pinots a bit disappointing - do you think they have potentinal to make a great pinot noir there?
Try Haute Cabriere select reserve Pinot noir and Iona highlands Pinot noir. I’ve tried about 25 different SA Pinot noirs and those two are the best I’ve had
Germany makes ridiculously good spätburgunder but you drink it all domestically and practically nothing is exported. I live in London and it is extremely hard to find a bottle over here. All I see are Rieslings...
Burgundy, my favorite is so expensive. I miss it! I’ve been drinking Oregon pinots and Santa Barbara. Can you recommend some affordable burgundies if there’s any?
Thank you for a great video. I do like Pinot Noir for sure, but at the same time I think it more often that not is too expensive. You are right when saying that cheap pinot noir (especially in Burgundy) are not good compared to a lot of other varities. For the same money you can get a much better Cote du Rhone, Langhe Nebbiolo, Chianti Classico etc. For that reason I would rather drink pinot noir less often, but when doing so I'll go for the more expensive ones as I think (oddly enough) they are the better value.
When, in your opinion, when does the "entry level" stop in terms of price? And is there simply so much truth in the statement I heard another "MW" on youtube "You can can have great PN and you can have cheap PN, but you cannot have great, cheap PN"? At which pricepoint does PN start giving you a return on your "investment" compared to other grape varieties?
Difficult to define as it depends on the market. If the cheapest price for wine in your market is 1 and the most expensive is 100 I would argue that you get good Cabernets and Syrahs for less than 10 but Pinots at that price range are overall less good ... but there are exceptions. If you are ready to pay 50-100 Pinot is really showing what it has to offer. Often outperforming CS and S...
Hi Konstantin, I have the opportunity to buy Holger Koch PNs in my local area, I believe the winery is in your area Baden? Any opinion if their PNs are any good? Thank you very much!
The end of sideways suggest that miles' aversion to merlot has nothing to do with taste. As he drinks his most prized bottle, a '61 Cheval Blanc, a keen observer would note that it's a right-bank, merlot-dominant wine. His refusal to drink merlot throughout the film is due to the connection between it and his failed marriage. They were saving the Cheval Blanc for an occasion, like the birth of a child, that he will never experience.
@@KonstantinBaumMasterofWine please do a video on South Africa’s best wine. You need to taste boschkoof epilogue, Warwick the blue lady and Waterford estate the jem. I truly believe these 3 are world class
There are low end Pino Noir wines that are excellent, for example, wines from Monterey Count and Napa that aren't priced more than twenty dollars. Price really doesn't mean one is going to have a great wine.
Thank you. It depends a bit on where you are based. I would look at producers from the south of Burgundy for example Domaine de la Monette in the Côte Chalonnaise. The wines are very affordable and great quality.
I love the wines from the cote d Or but new world Pinot is often much less interesting to me - once you get that cherry cola note from a PN wine that’s at 14.5% ABV I’m out! But I can drink the wines from volnay, Vosne etc... all Day - if I want value I go to Mercury or Givry before I would ever go to Cali.
Pinot Noir accounts for about 50% of our cellar ... by far our favourite
Pinot noir become one of my favorite red wine. Freshness but full arome flavor. Nice acidity make it so enjoyable with a balance of good cask.
Our fave area for Pinot? Prince Edward County in Ontario, Canada - same soils & latitude as Burgundy - perfumed wonders in the glass!
Love Pinot Noir, it is my favorite red grape. One of the best wines I ever had is the 2002 Dujac Echezeaux. Spectacular wine. Cheers 🥂
Love Pinot Noir. Sipping Pinot Noir while viewing this UA-cam. I'm a native Californian that has watched the wine industry grow over 61 years. This includes the Chateau Montelena historic "Judgment at the Paris" competition that gave credibility to California wine making, and launched Calistoga/Napa wine as a complainant producer of wine to the world! I live in the Russian River appellation, which is a California Pinot Noir Haven.
I’d love to see a 10 min profile of the Jura in France. Love their funky oxidized nature and rustic winemaking style. Poulsard, Trousseau, Savignin, etc. LOVE your channel. Subscribed!
Love, love Pinot Noir's! My favorite of course from Burgandy, France. However, living here in Germany I have also come accros some incredible Pinot Noir known as " Spaetburgunder " especially from Badden as Konstatin alluded to. Recently I purchased a bottle of 2017 Abyssus from the Pfalz at a cost of 110,00 Euros and it what absolutely out of this world! Pinot Noirs continue to rank as one of the most expensive wines in the world.
Konstantin, I prefer Pinot Noir most of the time. And I prefer my Pinot to be from Oregon. I don't have a great pallet for wine but I do prefer it over California. Of course if I could ever find a Village of Premier Cru from Burgundy, I would love to try it. But at $90 a bottle, I'll have to stick with Oregon.
BTW- I'm very much enjoying your vireos. Very informative and funny.
What not to love about Pinot Noir, that is the reason I got into wine!! Of course California’s and burgundy are among my favorites, but I had the chance to try this Pinot nero, blauburgunder Alto Adige, Meczan , while visiting Patrica in Italy, and I fell in love with its fresh and vibrant flavor. To bad I can’t find it the USA.
Sangiovese, for me, produces the most elegant wines when done correctly . Follow by PN and Nebbiolo. Great video.
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Try then Tenuta di Carleone Chianti Classico (100% Sangiovese)
Great comparison with opera singer!!! Lol As an opera singer can definitely confirm it ;) VG
Thanks! I would like to hear you sing ... just not on an elevator.
Needless to say, I love Pinot Noir!
Great job on speaking comprehensively about Pinot Noir in a fun, fast and un-fussy way :)
Thanks and Happy Birthday Claudia 😊
Hi Konstantin. Really enjoyed this and many of your videos but my first reply. As a New Zealander have been brought up with some of our great New World style Pinots especially from Central Otago and Martinborough. Have just spent 2 years living in Bonn and loved walking the villages of the nearby Ahr Valley and tasting some excellent Spatburgunder. Devastated to see what the recent floods have done - especially to our favourite village Ahrweiler. If any want recommendations of NZ Pinots happy to oblige.
Servus, ich hab heuer meinen "Sommelier Österreich" gemacht und nächstes Jahr steht der Diplom Sommelier an, find deine Videos super lehrreich!
Grüße aus Österreich
Big fan of pinot noir, drinking more grenache blends at the moment with my favorite from Australia Torbreck Barossa Valley Grenach/Shiraz/ Mourvedre 2017.Very nice wine, high alcohol needs to be decanted.May be looking for a decent pinot noir from Oregon soon.Great video!
Thanks!
Love to see Domaine de la Cote making an appearance as it's certainly my favorite. Great video and always thirsty.
Thanks!
Love pinot Noir, especially when it develops earthy farmyard mushroom aroma's.. Was lucky enough to visit several wineries in New Zealand central Otago and they are superb 🍷👍
i enjoy pinot noir.
My favourite Pinot Noir's come from Tasmania! So fresh, fruity and exciting.
I'm really enjoying Pinot's from Central Otago.
Damn right you are. If your after another new world area that just kicks absolute ass try Aussie Yarra Valley or Geelong.
Thank you for the great session. I have tried only a few bottle of Pinot Noir as a wine beginner, but I think I love a red wine grape variety which contains medium to high acidity in it like Pinot Noir, Sangiovese, etc. I think It would be more helpful for a beginner like me if you could explain the major characteristics that each countries' terroir have when explaining the main production countries of grape varieties.
Thanks. I will keep this in mind even if it is difficult doing that in a succinct way without generalizing too much...
We just purchased a new home that came with a partnership in a shared Pinot Noir vineyard in the Santa Cruz mountains. We are one of the closest vineyards to the coast so the conditions can be challenging due to the coastal fog in the morning. That being said, it has produced some excellent wines. I love your videos and appreciate you background on this important varietal.
Love this grape!
Hello Konstanin, I have watch many of your videos and have enjoyed them. I noticed you have had 2 wine from Sashi Moorman and Raj Parr. Their Domaine De La Cote vineyard is in Lompoc, CA where I live. How did you hear of them? I love their Pinot's(our favorite) have you had any other good Pinot's from the Santa Rita Hills in Santa Barbara County? another favorite of ours in Lompoc is Sea Smoke.
Thanks. I have visited the vineyards with Sashi Morman and have met Raj many years ago in London. Chanin, The Hilt, Racines and Tyler are all really good
Love Pinot Noir! Despite living on the East Coast of the US, my wife and I have made many pilgrimages to Burgundy, Champagne, Tasmania, Victoria, Sonoma, and Carneros. Burgundy is still the queen, particularly the villages of Volnay and Chambolle Musigny.
One of the ironic jokes of Sideways is Miles’s criticism of both Merlot and Cabernet Franc while having a bottle of 61 Cheval Blanc as his most prized wine bottle. Cheval Blanc is almost always a blend of exclusively Merlot and Cabernet Franc. There may be some Cabernet, usually less than 5%, but frequently not.
Cheval Blanc wasn't supposed to be in the movie...it was supposed to be Petrus...100% Merlot but they couldn't get permission so they went with CB for the cab franc inside joke....
Pinot noir is my favorite!
Hi Konstantin! Thank you for your amazing content - it inspired me to go onto the wine journey
Love your channel! Pinot Noir and Burgundy are the best! Just had a 2013 Marsannay from Méo Camuzet! In general I had several 2013s from Burgundy this year. Afaik, it is not a good vintage, but they are just delicious now!
Thanks! Have not had MC in a while
I fell in love with Pinot Noir after taking a wine appreciation class and being introduced to Musigny, Corton, Bonne Mars, Clos Vougeot when they were affordable. I wish I'd never got to taste them since they are mostly well beyond my means. What is a burgundy lover to do when they've been to the mountain top and are now left in the valley of the lesser growths. Also age becomes an issue...my age. I don't have twenty years to age my most recently acquired treasures. What is a wine lover to do fi you are in a similar situation?
Phil there is no solution and I feel your pain. I discovered these wines in the very early 80's, when you could buy 6 to 10 year old Grand Cru from top producers for $15 to $20. These are the Pinot Noir a that shaped my palate and ruined it forever as prices skyrocketed. I try to find up and coming producers in the "minor" villages or the Cote Chalonnaise for both red and white Bourgogne. This is especially effective in warmer vintages with an extended harvest window. Another great area for white Bourgogne and Bourgogne styled wines are Vezeley, Cote de Catalanes, the Ardeche (Louis Latour). For Bourgogne styled Pinot, that is tougher but Warm vintage Premier Cru Savigny, Beaune, Santenay, Givry, Mercury, Per and or Cote de Beaune Village from producers that regularly declassify Premier Cru into that blend are your best bets. Outside of that top Alsace Pinot, German Spatburgunder, Morningstar Peninsula, Sonoma Coast, Santa Rita Hills and Willamette Pinot Noir often mimic that Burgundian style. Some producers have an uncanny ability to do this. Hope that helps...happy hunting!
Should i decant (use a decanter ) before pouring in to a glass, before enjoying Pinot Noir
Great stuff!!! Loving it
Good video, thanks.
Glad you liked it!
Hi Konstantin, recent subscriber here and loving the content. My first “real” wine experience was drinking Pinot Noir. I went on a student exchange to Tasmania from Scotland in 2005, many great producers there and I fell in love, now here I am still in Australia! Now in Victoria and thirsty for deeper wine knowledge. Keep up the great work and stay thirsty to you too.
Liechtenstein Hofkellerei Vaduz have also very good Pinot Noirs and prices are between 15 and 35 $ . Switzerland Grabünden Region has also remarkable Pinot Noirs and they are in taste very close to Burgundy Pinots.
Hi Konstantin, great channel! Love your videos! It rekindled my interest in wine. I was wondering, what is that red bible of wine you showed in this video?
Thanks! Wine Grapes by Jancis Robinson
I consider it the most exciting variety out there. It's subtle, focused, savory and at times all of the above. It really shows its sense of place when farmed and vinified properly.
In the US, some of the best examples come from Santa Barbara County and Sonoma. The old world examples are pricey and getting pricier. Hard to find good Burgs without breaking the bank.
love pinot. a secret imho are swiss and alsacian (from Elsass) pinots.
also, could you do a blind tasting with a burgundy, one "rest of France", one German, one Oregon, one Tasmanian, one new Zealand, one swiss pinot?
would love your view on pinot around the world!
Thanks for these highly educating videos. Hope you can soon share some content about Portuguese wines (Madeira, Baga grape based...)
Great suggestion! Thank you-
My all time favorite PN is Kistler Russian River valley. Incredibly fruity, exceptionnal!
check out Occidental Pinot...it's made by Steve Kistler....you'll love it....
@@awc723 thanks for the tip, will try for sure!
I do like Pinot Noir and your turtle neck...
Great video I enjoyed it very much. But yes it is difficult to really enjoy a PN no a budget if you have any recommendations I would love to hear them.keep the videos coming👍
Will do!
I like the versatility of pinot noir with different kinds of foods. I wonder what you think about serving the wine with a slight chill in the summer.
Chilled is great
Are there any nice examples readily available in the United States you might recommend? Your videos are very well done- entertaining and very informative. Please keep them coming!
Thank you. I really like the Pinots from Au Bon Climat, Kutch, Hirsch and Chanin.
@@KonstantinBaumMasterofWine Thanks for the recommendation- I'm going to order some of those today!
Russian River Valley is a great AVA to look for California Pinot Noir, my personal favorites are made by MacRostie (Klopp Ranch is the best I've had from them). Pinot Noir is also by far the most planted red grape around where I live in northern Oregon; Domaine Serene is a great widely-distributed choice, and my personal favorites come from Sokol Blosser.
Hey Konstantin! Pinot Noir is one of my favorites and I have tried Australian, American, French, and New Zealand examples. My favorite Pinot Noir region is Gevrey Chambertin in France, Ata Rangi from New Zealand, and Bream Creek from Tasmania. I prefer pinot dominant champagnes like Bollinger. To me, it is probably the friendliest of food wines. Cheers!
I love Pinot noir. In fact, Meiomi makes an outstanding Pinot noir. It’s one of the greatest tasting wines I’ve encountered.
I’m looking forward to trying sone French iterations as a comparison this weekend.
Great video!
as i commented on one of your other videos i've had some PN but when i got a chilled spaetburgunder with a excellent fish dish i got more interested in it
At the end of 'Sideways' Miles is drinking 'Cheval Blanc' (predominantly Merlot)
Great video Konstantin! Any recommendation on more "affordable" burgundy red?
Hello from Vancouver Island, Canada (please Google it) where are you will be very surprised we are making some absolutely spectacular and unique pinot noir. I love this grape - When it’s badly made it is so flat, but when it’s well-made it is sublime.
I am aware of that. I have never been though.
Alexandre, I live on Vancouver Island so I am in a position to buy them, even if only available locally or at the winery . Are there any you would recommend in particular?
@@michaelshepherd8521 Averill Creek and Unsworth have decent PN. Not world class, but getting better.
TBF in Sideways Paul Giamatti's character was likely referring to the fact that wines are marketed as varietals in the US, so, ordering a "Merlot" is going to get you some gas station plonk, which, if we're being honest, can be surprisingly good.
By the way, Pinot Noir is also by far the most widely planted grape in Switzerland, with some good examples coming from Bündner Herrschaft, Valais, Hallau and Ottoberg.
Interessant, so en Bündner Pinot Noir wür i mal gärn probiara aber gits da bi üs leider nit
Had the chance to taste a wonderful blend of pinot noir and gamay from a small producer in Valais canton. What a gem!
I like Pinot Noir from Marlborough
He doesn't hate merlot because he hates merlot, he hates merlot because it's his ex-wife's favorite.
True
IIRC, he drinks merlot at the end and enjoys it, because he got over it. It's insane how many people memory holed that scene.
I made a mistake to visit Burgundy. After doing that my old non-french favorite pinot noirs were no longer that interesting as before.. Sometimes it's better not to try the expensive stuff at all :)
Burgundy is an expensive passion.
Marks and Spencer used to do a Pinot Noir from Pfaltz ( sorr,y Spatzburgunder ) for £9.99p. It beat most average priced ( expensive?) French Pinot, hands down. Sadly they don't stock it any more.
Thanks Konstantin! Thank you for the great video. At the end of the video, did you say Pinot is “aged in bricks” to get the subtle flavors? I tried listening a few times and that’s what I am hearing!
Started growing Pinot noir in my garden (Belgium). Hopefully the changing weather conditions help me out to have a decent home made wine. Is this wine best used as a minocépage or is there room for some Cabernet Sauvignon for example? I have those in my garden as well.
I got an entry level one ($17-22) from California and it's not complex enough.
Konstantin, your videos are a great introduction to grapes, regions, & wines. I wish there was something like this back in 2003/2004 when I started getting into wine. Pinot Noir is my favorite red grape, it accounts for about 22-23% of my cellar, followed closely by Nebbiolo-14% & Riesling-8%(All German). As far as my experiences with Pinot Noir, I've tried Pinot Noir from Burgundy, Champagne, Jura, Loire, Baden, Pfalz, Oregon, California, New York, Lombardia, Alto-Adige, New Zealand, Australia, Austria, Argentina, Chile, & Romania. I tend to prefer Burgundy, with Oregon closely behind. My epiphany Burgundy was a 2002 Ponsot Charmes Chambertin, and my current favorite producer in Burgundy is Henri Jouan. My favorite German Pinot Noir was 2013 Enderle & Moll Buntsandstein, followed closely by a 2010 Keller Frauenberg GG. What are some of your favorite producers in Burgundy? Have you ever traveled to the Willamette Valley in Oregon? If so, what producers did you like? If not, what producers would you want to visit in Oregon?
Reine pedauque corton grand cru les renardes 1949. Best I’ve ever tasted. Minimal rim variation or color change for its age.
My jury is still out regarding Pinot Noir. 🤔 A lot of the low end Pinot's have quite a thin body. Something I have a hard time to like. In my experience I prefer the USA variants that tends to have a slightly bigger body. On the other hand some of the best wines I ever had was high end Pinot's. 😍 Of course the gap between a good and a bad wine is large with any grape, but the thin body part makes me suspicious every time someone offers, or order, a Pinot. 🙄
I live in Oregon where Pinot Nior is abundant, however, as many times as I have tried it from a variety of growers and vintages, it is not my favorite.
Another great video so thank you for that! What are your thoughts on Russian River PN's and its unique New World Terroir characteristics?
There are some exceptional wines coming out of Russian River. They are often more velvety and rich (compared to Santa Barbara and the Coastal vineyards in Sonoma) with a bit of Coca Cola flavor mixed into the cherry fruit aroma.
Great video. Can you please help me to describe the 'funky' you can get with good PN? I'm not sure how it is referred to in reviews I can only describe it as funky. Thanks.
Love the vids! i was wondering wich books that was that he showed the grapes in?
It is called Wine Grapes by Jancis Robinson & co.
At what point did Spätburgunder overtake Dornfelder and Lemberger (Blaufränkisch, Kekfrankos whatever you want to call it) as the most planted red grape in Germany? Clearly it has moved beyond the limited plantings in Baden/Würtemburg where it was normally found as a bit of an oddball before global warming? As someone who has studied for the MW I am curious as to when this shift in hardy cool climate grapes (capable of resisting harsh winter frosts) to Pinot (which is notoriously more delicate and finicky took place?
Great and informative video. I'm Fascinated by Pinot noir, waiting for covid restriction to be lifted to try "Pinot Noix" from Mosel. I'd also like to ask you: Is it worth to go after (not easy to get here) Pinot Noir from Grisons region in Switzerland?
Thanks. I have never tasted Pinot Noir from there so I don't know.
@@KonstantinBaumMasterofWine They call the area "Burgundy of Switzerland" but that might be pretentious. The fact that you've never tasted something from there means that I'm probably not missing out much
@@KonstantinBaumMasterofWine - an Example of what Pinot Noir can be achieved from the Grisons are the Wines of Gantenbein.
I like Pinot Noir but I think your are right that entry level wines of this variety are rather weak and often seem to taste like some kind of red wine blended with water. I also haven't had one of the really great Pinot Noirs so far because in my personal opinion they are simply to expensive for but I really liked the "Beaune Clos de L'Ecu 1er Cru" of Domaine Faiveley (extremely fruity if drunk young which I did not expect to that extend especially not from a French wine), the wines of Friedrich Becker and also the ones made by Hanspeter Ziereisen.
Those are some great prucers!
Hate Merlot, like for instance Petrus?
Merlot can be great if handled right.
Great topic as usual! ) But are you sure about Garganega "close" relationship with Pinot Noir? There are a several versions of its DNA ways - from Spain, Greece and via Sicily till Northern Italy itself... but Pinot Noir..
Of course, if to keep in mind that Pinot Noir is original Vitis Vinifera variety - it could be the "parent" to .....all :)
Yes, thinking about it father or mother might not be 100% accurate. Garganega is considered to br an ancestor of Pinot. In Jancis Robinson's book Grapes it is in the family tree of Pinot but it is not a "child" of Pinot. More like a great grandchild
@@KonstantinBaumMasterofWine Definitely, grapes DNA is a tough question! Every decade new research gives additional information or completely new overview for old, well-known varieties. As Italian Wine Scholar - by Wine Scholar Guild - I never before studied about relationship between Garganega and Pinot Noir as in my school as well in "Native Wine Grapes of Italy" of Ian D'Agata - my desk book :)
But Ok, wine better to drink than debate about. Happy Syrah Day!!
Is it ok to drink Pinot Noir with salmon?
I’ve had some sublime wine experiences. One of them a premier cru Bourgogne Clos de la Perriere 2006, mind blowing!
With that said, chasing the magic dragon drinking cheap new world Pinot or some overrated (but
never overpriced) Spätburgunder more often than not is somewhat disappointing.
If you appreciate the premiere cru and grand cru of Bourgogne... then why are you drinking cheap new world Pinot? Might I suggest drinking the premiere cru and grand cru from the new world instead? You will have to have them shipped across the world... but they will still be more affordable than our favourite burgundies! Ah Burgundy... my friend found a nice bottle of grand cru in our cellar... he remarked that we should sell it because it was worth $7000 NZ... and I replied... “if I sell it I won’t be able to taste it!!”
Not a big fan of Pinot Noir. I am more the Bordeaux Blend kind of guy. But recently the 2018 Neus Ingelheimer Spätburgunder Alte Reben blew me away. The nose had some intense Fireworks (not metaphorical, it really smells like fireworks).
One of my favorite Pinot Noir is Brauewell - Essenheim Spatburgunder 2013 trocken. have you tried it? would love to know your thought about this wine.
No, I have not... yet!
@@KonstantinBaumMasterofWine Thanks for the response and for your content!
I really like south african wines but have always found their pinots a bit disappointing - do you think they have potentinal to make a great pinot noir there?
Sure but I also think that they are better with other varietals
Try Haute Cabriere select reserve Pinot noir and Iona highlands Pinot noir. I’ve tried about 25 different SA Pinot noirs and those two are the best I’ve had
Germany makes ridiculously good spätburgunder but you drink it all domestically and practically nothing is exported. I live in London and it is extremely hard to find a bottle over here. All I see are Rieslings...
That is unfortunately true
Burgundy, my favorite is so expensive. I miss it! I’ve been drinking Oregon pinots and Santa Barbara. Can you recommend some affordable burgundies if there’s any?
Regis Bouvier Marsannay Clos Du Roy is fantastic value burgundy
Entry level Louis Jadot or Faiveley pilot noir / Bourgogne- both v.gd. quality price ratio QPR
Thank you for a great video. I do like Pinot Noir for sure, but at the same time I think it more often that not is too expensive. You are right when saying that cheap pinot noir (especially in Burgundy) are not good compared to a lot of other varities. For the same money you can get a much better Cote du Rhone, Langhe Nebbiolo, Chianti Classico etc. For that reason I would rather drink pinot noir less often, but when doing so I'll go for the more expensive ones as I think (oddly enough) they are the better value.
This is sadly true. Looking for great value is tricky in Burgundy and going for the top producers is a more reliable-but more expensive-approach.
When, in your opinion, when does the "entry level" stop in terms of price? And is there simply so much truth in the statement I heard another "MW" on youtube "You can can have great PN and you can have cheap PN, but you cannot have great, cheap PN"? At which pricepoint does PN start giving you a return on your "investment" compared to other grape varieties?
Difficult to define as it depends on the market. If the cheapest price for wine in your market is 1 and the most expensive is 100 I would argue that you get good Cabernets and Syrahs for less than 10 but Pinots at that price range are overall less good ... but there are exceptions. If you are ready to pay 50-100 Pinot is really showing what it has to offer. Often outperforming CS and S...
Hi Konstantin, I have the opportunity to buy Holger Koch PNs in my local area, I believe the winery is in your area Baden? Any opinion if their PNs are any good? Thank you very much!
Yes, they porduce very good, rich PNs.
The end of sideways suggest that miles' aversion to merlot has nothing to do with taste. As he drinks his most prized bottle, a '61 Cheval Blanc, a keen observer would note that it's a right-bank, merlot-dominant wine. His refusal to drink merlot throughout the film is due to the connection between it and his failed marriage. They were saving the Cheval Blanc for an occasion, like the birth of a child, that he will never experience.
You mentioned sideways!!!! That movie is also responsible for making merlot less popular.
Have you tried South African Pinot noir?
Yes, I have but I should do it more often
@@KonstantinBaumMasterofWine please do a video on South Africa’s best wine. You need to taste boschkoof epilogue, Warwick the blue lady and Waterford estate the jem. I truly believe these 3 are world class
What book is this?
Grapes by Jancis Robinson.
There are low end Pino Noir wines that are excellent, for example, wines from Monterey Count and Napa that aren't priced more than twenty dollars. Price really doesn't mean one is going to have a great wine.
Thank you for the great session. Do you have any recommendations for great daily pinot wine (that you enjoy and doesn’t necessarily kill your wallet)?
Thank you. It depends a bit on where you are based. I would look at producers from the south of Burgundy for example Domaine de la Monette in the Côte Chalonnaise. The wines are very affordable and great quality.
Latour Lamoissine is the perfect entry into pn for novices and a favorite. That movie is for idiots.
Not a good analogy.
I love the wines from the cote d Or but new world Pinot is often much less interesting to me - once you get that cherry cola note from a PN wine that’s at 14.5% ABV I’m out! But I can drink the wines from volnay, Vosne etc... all
Day - if I want value I go to Mercury or Givry before I would ever go to Cali.
You have got to try some Pinots from Santa Barbara or the (true) Sonoma Coast
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Pinot Noir's thin skins are also a big factor.