I've been spoiled with French wines being my first love. I've tried PN from around the world but I always come back to Bourgogne. Producer is everything in Bourgogne and if you stick to the good ones, even their village level wines offer great drinking at reasonable prices. I would rather forgo two $50 Oregon or Sonoma PN and go with the 100 euro Bourgogne.
Not exactly a fair comparison. A wine that is double the price, if all wines are quality and properly priced and not label wines, should always stand out far from the wine that is half the price.
I really think Oregon knows what they’re doing with Pinot noir. Big Table Farm really turned me into an Oregon Pinot lover with their entry level bottle. I think it gives the prettiness of Burgundy but with more new world fruit. Also love the minimal oak use!
Slovenia pinot….whoa. Very interesting 👌 Here in Australia over $100AUD. Always found Haute Cote de Nuits burgundies are good value, relatively speaking:)
I've been fortunate enough to having tasted a lot of Pinot Noir wines in my life but I have to admit that I'm stuck with Rudolf Fürst from Franken, Germany. There's a reason why Fürst is called the german Romanée-Conti. His 3 GG's are out of this world, especially the Hundsrück (Parker rated the 2019 Hundsrück 98 points and Jancis Robinson 19 points!!)
@@drmatthewhorkey me too. Martinborough is Most Burgundian. Central Otago biggest fruit bombs. Marlborough, North Canterbury and Nelson some lovely PN as well but MARTINBOROUGH is my pick. Keep up the good work MH♡
I love Pinot Noir. But Burgundy is insanely Priced now. At Least Cote de nuits. There are still good reasonbly Priced Burgundy to be had in Cote de beaune. But more and more difficult to find good Buys. Several good reasonbly Priced Pinot Noirs from Austria and Germany. Also Australia. I have some great Oregon Pinot Noirs too but most are too expensive. Most California Pinot Noirs are too sweet for me. But there are exceptions. My max limith for wines i purchase is around 50$ so Cote de nuits is out of the question.
Try an haute cotes de nuits or a cotes de nuit villages. They have that nuits intensity even if they're not from a named village. Domaine cornu camus is excellent
@@liamblake937 True. You can get reasonably Priced Cote de nuits village still. But even the village vines from from Nuits st Georges to gevery Chamberlin are crazy expensive now. I Guess you can still get reasonbly Priced Fixin too. Years back you could buy direct from the domaine at much Better Prices. Those Days are Unfortunately gone.
Alto Adige? I'll be darned! Pinot from Burgundy can be an expensive crap shoot, IMO. I stick with California and Oregon, occasionally wander into the Finger Lakes.
Which Pinots do I like? Yes. (Self-described Pinot Ho 😁). That said, I do have my favorites. I love the coastal California Pinots, including Central Coast and Sonoma Coast. Sonoma Coast Pinots tend to have better acidity and more old world character imo than Sonoma County Pinot. Along the coast from Santa Barbara to Monterey, there are a lot of beautifully complex Pinots, too. Inland is Calera Winery, which specializes in Pinots and has the limestone soil that Josh Jensen (RIP) found to be nearly identical to the limestone soils in Burgundy. Of course, there's Willamette (dammit), whose Pinots put Oregon winemaking on the map. My recent discoveries have been Pinots from South Africa (not a typo!), New Zealand, Argentina, Chile, and Australia. In fact, I currently have a couple of bottles of Tasmanian Pinot resting in a wine fridge. Can't wait to taste! Of course I love Burgundies (Vosne-Romanee, anyone?) so I didn't think I had to mention it. Plus my budget can't handle the $$$$.
our 6 wines arrived today from Beaune. 1st time shipping, we know more now (as you do), a nice Hospices de Beaune 2019 Savigny Les Beaune from Paul Aegerter two Clavelier Morey-Saint-Denis, two Nuits Saint Georges Les Plateaux, and Gevrey-Chambertin From Faiveley. I think with shipping minus VAT we still should have gone a bit higher, but I'm still excited about these and look forward to trying some of your new world options.
Pinot Noir is my favourite grape variety, and my wife’s as well, though I prefer Burgundy, and she prefers Oregon. we also drink a lot of New Zealand and Canadian Pinots (Norman Hardie, Tawse, Stanners, Meyer Family Vineyards). I would like to drink more Pinot Nero from Italy, but have trouble finding them.
Even tasting 3 different pinots from 3 different sections of Sonoma (Russian River, Sonoma Mountain, Carneros) the taste is wildly different. At the end of the day, the best part about wine is the sheer variety of expressions. Why anyone would stick to a single territory is beyond me. THAT, im(not so)ho, is the approach that appreciates wine the least. Sorry/not sorry single territory lovers. 😅
How is English Australian ? What's difference between English Australian, English, and American ? My old sister is course English in LIA (Lambaga Indonesian American) and had certificate.
You're down on Sonoma county Pinot? I've traveled the world and tried Pinot in 10 different countries, including Burgundy/France. I'm a Pinot fanatic and am baffled by your opinion about Sonoma county wines. Baffled I am.
A mere village level Burgundy kicked the whole world"s derrière 😊. Next time up the game with 1er cru MSD or Chambolle Musigny taking on the new world Pinot Noir hot shots 😃
My favourite pinots are from the Mornington Peninsula. Value for money, amazing fruit! So easy to enjoy! Just drank a Musigny Grand Cru 2000 from Drouhin and for the price, the quality was not there!
Matthew, many thanks for the nice video. I am quite surprised that NZ Pinot Noir was excluded from the tasting. They make excellent Pinot: Felton Road, Escarpment and Ata Rangi to name a few.
I have had Movia’s orange wine before, but had no idea they made a Pinot Noir! I’ve also never heard “cool whip” as a tasting note before! What do you think causes that? (Is it the vanilla in the oak or something else?)
In my part of the World Bergundy isn't so easy to get and as such I tend to be disappointed with what is found, at a premium price. I can buy a 10 euro local Pinot Noir that will generally perform better than a 50 euro Bergundy. Probably there are lower cost ones in France or maybe better available in other countries, but for Moldova it isn't a reality and it is probably the riskiest grape for satisfaction and also the highest price point as well.
For my money, I usually stick with New World Pinot Noir. I’ve had some good Burgundies, but my every day drinking budget is 15-25 dollars and a splurge would be 50-75 dollars. Unfortunately it’s hard for me to find consistently good Burgundy at that price point. Presqu’ile Winery, Iris Vineyards, and Willamette Valley Vineyards makes some really nice entry level Pinots. When I want to splurge I usually like Domaine Serene or Domaine Drouhin from Oregon. I need to try more Pinot from all these other regions around the world! Great video and the lighting looks good 👍🏻
All the us wines use the sane bacteria tasting like mushroom. Strong pass. You can have nice 20$ pinot noir in france. Mushroom tasting oregon pinot noir for no less than 40$
Excellent video. I live in the Oregon Applegate Valley Wine District. Extraordinary Pinot Noir available here from many vineyards. Compares well with or exceeds wine from Will AM ette
only 8 barrels made on one of these wines should have kept it for them selves ,, wekll there is only one pinot noir to drink its burgundy cant be beat pity about the price oh well life is short
I dont know about pinot Noir but I prefer Portugal versionl only, mind you. America always talked about French, Spanish, Italian, China. I am getting tired of it. America is a racist and ignored all other foreigns. I loved Portuguese/Portugal/Azores red wine. They taste the best than in America. I dont drank America red wine like California Burgundy style (Burgundy from france taste better than Burgundy style in California) YUCKY, Cabernet (VOMIT). California red wines are absolutely taste awful. I grew up in San Miguel, Azores. Portugal. I only drink red wine there. I enjoyed Montaria (White) and (Gold), you can go with Quinta da Lapa 2016 Reserva Merlot (Tejo) which I havent tried but I was told it is great red wine. America have no respect of red wine and the cutlure. They dont know what its mean of red wine at all.
I LOOOVVEE Portuguese wines but I do disagree. The wines in California can be OUTSTANDING... Unfortunately the best ones mostly don't make it to Europe because of quantity and high prices.
I am a French wine drinker and I also love the Stoller wines. When you spoke of the California wines especially the last one. I noticed you mentioned flagship and it was single vineyard. I find those Pinot Noirs to generally better than just a regular Pinot. They definitely drink better.
I’ll be honest and maybe I’ll get flack for it, but the best Pinot Noir from Dundee Hills Oregon is superior to my palette compared to the best of Burgundy
@@drmatthewhorkey Have you tried any Syrah from the Rocks District appellation of Milton-Freewater within the Walla Walla AVA? That also puts all Rhône Valley Syrah to shame 😉
@@drmatthewhorkey are there any good Pinot Noir wines at lower price points? Doctor told me to try drinking a glass of wine everyday for health reasons. $50 bottles are too expensive for everyday drinking. Pinot Noir is being touted as one of the healthiest. That is why we are looking for one at a lower price point.
@@drmatthewhorkey ah, my bad. I just didnt see Australia listed in the places you had visited, nor it mentioned in any videos. I know, living in McLaren Vale , I maybe biased. But, we make some of the best and varied wines in the world :)
I love Pinot Noir from pretty much everywhere though my favourite ones tend to come from New Zealand which I just love for the purity of fruit and cooling nature of those wines especially if they´re from Central Otago. For value though I find German Spätburgunder really hard to beat and in Baden you can get Burgundian style wines for so much less money! I drink a lot of the Burgum Novum too but can´t get to 94 on it...
I love German PN so much but the best doesn’t leave the country. Great that you know the Burgum Novum. This was one of the better bottles from them I’ve had in addition to the 2016
@@drmatthewhorkey Top PN from Diel, Ziereisen, von Winning, Künstler, Dönhoff, Geil, Breuer, Müller-Catoir, Messmer, Selbach-Oster, Kruger-Rumpf and others are readily available in the US. I don't need to tell you about Skurnik Wines.
@@drmatthewhorkey Maybe do a special on the Ahr PNs, to help them out after the disastrous 2021 floodings. Of course, their Rieslings are also worth a try. But you already know that.
Another great blind Dr H 👍🏼 ~ question: is there any way to find out which wineries use additives (mega purple, etc) and which don’t? I know several “very well known” Cali wineries use MP in their Pinots 🤔 and I’d like to explore ones that don’t ~ thanks 🙏🏼
I'm still experimenting with new world pinot noir but I'm yet to find one that really makes me fall in love the way a special burgundy can. Unfortunately.... Burgundy really makes you pay for the privilege. Lots of good pinot from new Zealand and USA but I'm yet to find one with the magic.
Great vid, I think that you can get an excellent value Pinot noir if you go to the rhinegau in germany or the haute cotes de nuits in burgundy for under 30$
Prices are going through the roof in Germany and GG Spätburgunder are sold out within a few days. This video inspired me to open a Salwey - Henkenberg GG 2017 which I bought for under 30 € . In the past it was possible to order even back vintages from their shop. Now GGs are sold 6 months in advance on subscription.
@@drmatthewhorkey I love the Fūrst Hundsrück GGs. The 2016 vintage drinks beautiful right now but the last release is already over 160 € if found at all.
Craggy range Pinot noir is the 1st red wine that made me hooked on wine. First taste, nothing spectacular , but with a German pork knuckle, flavours starts busting.
Not a huge Pinot Noir fan. And I totally admit I'm not very experienced with PN. The best ones I've had so far were from the Santa Rita Hills. And by the way yes, really like the lighting in this video. Keep up the god work!
Great video! Love seeing you feature off-the-beaten path regions.I've got to try some Pinot from Slovenia and Alto Adige! Also happy to see the top two; I first learned to love wine on a vacation to the Sonoma Coast, so I have a soft spot for Sonoma Coast Pinots. Emeritus is good, but there are lots of other producers that I think are just as good if not better (Littorai, Fort Ross, Arista, Lynmar, Porter Bass, Red Car are all wine I prefer to Emeritus). And of course I love Burgundy too. Honestly, I've been overall a bit underwhelmed by Oregon, even after a trip to the Willamette Valley. Nice lighting btw.
You are doing an amazing job! I just discovered your page, so thank you. I’m born and raised on Keuka Lake in the finger lakes and Konstantin Frank was a family friend. I’m loving your page. I love Pinot Noirs.
I tried some Domaine Fourrey Pinot - they are normally a great Premiere Cru Chablis, so the Pinot is cheaper AND amazingly tart and crisp. I like it at $23
Great again. Thank you. So many really great cheap wines these days too. Pinot Noir is becoming almost a sure thing but always different, big change! More please.
I also have a love hate relationship with Pinot Noir and I certainly don't drink too much of it. Love burgundy when it's well made and more mature but I recently had a really delicious NZ one. Alto adige Pinot Nero is also very interesting to me.
I'm a fan of pinot, the Mrs however doesn't seem to favour it so we tend not to buy much. Certainly don't spend too much on a bottle but one of note to me is the Stonier Pinot from the Mornington Peninsula. Definitely got that cool climate character going on. Light and clean!
Great review Just got home (north of Sydney) from Tasmania where I tasted some exceptional Pinots. Gala Estate on the east coast was my favourite. Their 2018 black label ($65AUD) was my pick from my holiday. Let us know if you are coming down under and we will be happy to share some. 🍷 🍷
Around the €20,- range for me, Germany has the best price quality Spätburgunders. I love to drink Pinot Noir, I think it is the second best grape in the world to make wine from.
One Pinot I really like that I don't hear a lot about is Belle Glos. They have several vineyards throughout California. I developed a love for wine in the mid-to-late 1970s by drinking French red burgundy back when it was affordable. My go-to bottle was the grand cru Charmes Charmbertain, which, believe it or not, I could buy for about $13 in 1978. Today, you cannot find this bottle for anything under $100 and usually well above that. I also loved Grand Cru Chablis, which was available at a similar price. Good Chablis, although expensive, is affordable today for occasionally indulging. Oddly, NV French Champagne back in the day cost $30. Considering inflation, it is actually cheaper than is was back then. NV Champagne can be regularly found at around $50.
Belle Glos doesn’t get mentioned a lot on the wine YT channels because it’s a highly manufactured wine and not really expressive of varietal, vintage, or terroir, which is what wine nerds (myself included) go crazy about. That doesn’t mean Belle Glos doesn’t taste good - it’s just not a wine nerd’s Pinot.
A fun video, but also one that I have some mixed feelings about. It was great that you included Slovenia and Alto Adige. But excluding Australia, New Zealand and Germany did seem a bit strange. Out here in Asia New Zealand is usually my go to country for affordable, decent PN. Affordable German Spatburgunder is becoming more available, though it's usually always entry level wines. Cool climate/region South African PN has also impressed me, it's often a midway point between European PN and Aussie/Kiwi PN. I do have Piemonte Pinot Nero that I am looking forward to opening some time soon.
I’m a huge fan of all of those countries. Some South African Pinots have made it on the channel. For some reason it’s reslly tough for me to get aussie and nzd ones
There's excellent PN producers in many countries - it'd probably be pretty challenging to include all of them, not to mention the video would be super, super long. Plus, the PN from lesser known countries aren't going to be as easy to find in the states. For example, there's a tremendous amount of truly awesome PN from Patagonia (AR), but good luck finding anything but Chacra (which is great - don't get me wrong) outside South America.
I am not so sure on pinot noir, I have definitely had some fabulous ones! But for the money it's just not really worth it for me. I hosted a tasting a couple months ago where we had a 2001 Bouchard père & fils le Corton grand cru, 2001 Comte Armand Pommard 1er cru, 1996 Faiveley Cortons grand cru, 2003 Jean Grivot Vosne-Romanée 1er cru. While I gave all of these a world of praise and they were absolutely amazing wines, I just can't justify drinking wine from a region where the entry level price for good wine is over $100. I've also had some great German, NZ and American pinot noirs, but none of them even come close to Burgundy. I will stick to my Bordeaux! I friend of mine is actually hosting an English pinot noir tasting in a couple of weeks which will be very interesting! We're tasting both reds and sparkling blanc de noirs. I absolutely love blanc de noirs Champagne and the few English ones I've had have been great as well!
I've been spoiled with French wines being my first love. I've tried PN from around the world but I always come back to Bourgogne. Producer is everything in Bourgogne and if you stick to the good ones, even their village level wines offer great drinking at reasonable prices. I would rather forgo two $50 Oregon or Sonoma PN and go with the 100 euro Bourgogne.
Ahhhh hot take!
Must be nice to be able to make that choice lol
Not exactly a fair comparison. A wine that is double the price, if all wines are quality and properly priced and not label wines, should always stand out far from the wine that is half the price.
"Reasonable prices" 100€ village wine 😂😂
Couldn’t agree more, Village level wines from good producers just on another level. some of the village are crazy expensive like rousseau or Cathiard.
The best American Pinot Noir I've had was a 2008 Au Bon Climat Isabelle. It was very earthy, much more like a Bergundy, but really really good.
That’s an excellent wine and it’s been on the channel before!
I really think Oregon knows what they’re doing with Pinot noir. Big Table Farm really turned me into an Oregon Pinot lover with their entry level bottle. I think it gives the prettiness of Burgundy but with more new world fruit. Also love the minimal oak use!
Very good producer! I was recently impressed with Lingua Franca too. There is an Oregon Pinot Noir blind tasting video on the channel too
Dundee Hills AVA 🤤
Slovenia pinot….whoa.
Very interesting 👌
Here in Australia over $100AUD.
Always found Haute Cote de Nuits burgundies are good value, relatively speaking:)
Slovenia makes great wines!
@@drmatthewhorkey
Thanks for the heads up Matthew.
I've been fortunate enough to having tasted a lot of Pinot Noir wines in my life but I have to admit that I'm stuck with Rudolf Fürst from Franken, Germany. There's a reason why Fürst is called the german Romanée-Conti. His 3 GG's are out of this world, especially the Hundsrück (Parker rated the 2019 Hundsrück 98 points and Jancis Robinson 19 points!!)
I’ve visited the estate… My favorite in Germany and Hundsruck is stellar.
MARTINBOROUGH NEW ZEALAND makes VALUE OUTSTANDING FINE PINOT NOIR-
ESCARPMENT e.g.
Blessings from nz Hawkes Bay wine country.
Simon
Martinborough is my favorite region in NZD for PN
@@drmatthewhorkey me too. Martinborough is
Most Burgundian.
Central Otago biggest fruit bombs.
Marlborough, North Canterbury and Nelson some lovely PN as well but MARTINBOROUGH is my pick.
Keep up the good work MH♡
Just had the Craggy Range Aroha last night…
I love Pinot Noir. But Burgundy is insanely Priced now. At Least Cote de nuits. There are still good reasonbly Priced Burgundy to be had in Cote de beaune. But more and more difficult to find good Buys. Several good reasonbly Priced Pinot Noirs from Austria and Germany. Also Australia. I have some great Oregon Pinot Noirs too but most are too expensive. Most California Pinot Noirs are too sweet for me. But there are exceptions. My max limith for wines i purchase is around 50$ so Cote de nuits is out of the question.
I am a huge fan of Ozzie and German Pinot Noir too
Try an haute cotes de nuits or a cotes de nuit villages. They have that nuits intensity even if they're not from a named village. Domaine cornu camus is excellent
@@liamblake937 True. You can get reasonably Priced Cote de nuits village still. But even the village vines from from Nuits st Georges to gevery Chamberlin are crazy expensive now. I Guess you can still get reasonbly Priced Fixin too. Years back you could buy direct from the domaine at much Better Prices. Those Days are Unfortunately gone.
Alto Adige? I'll be darned! Pinot from Burgundy can be an expensive crap shoot, IMO. I stick with California and Oregon, occasionally wander into the Finger Lakes.
Ahhhh nice FLX!
Which Pinots do I like? Yes. (Self-described Pinot Ho 😁). That said, I do have my favorites. I love the coastal California Pinots, including Central Coast and Sonoma Coast. Sonoma Coast Pinots tend to have better acidity and more old world character imo than Sonoma County Pinot. Along the coast from Santa Barbara to Monterey, there are a lot of beautifully complex Pinots, too. Inland is Calera Winery, which specializes in Pinots and has the limestone soil that Josh Jensen (RIP) found to be nearly identical to the limestone soils in Burgundy. Of course, there's Willamette (dammit), whose Pinots put Oregon winemaking on the map.
My recent discoveries have been Pinots from South Africa (not a typo!), New Zealand, Argentina, Chile, and Australia. In fact, I currently have a couple of bottles of Tasmanian Pinot resting in a wine fridge. Can't wait to taste!
Of course I love Burgundies (Vosne-Romanee, anyone?) so I didn't think I had to mention it. Plus my budget can't handle the $$$$.
Ahhh you know your Pinots!
our 6 wines arrived today from Beaune. 1st time shipping, we know more now (as you do), a nice Hospices de Beaune 2019 Savigny Les Beaune from Paul Aegerter two Clavelier Morey-Saint-Denis, two Nuits Saint Georges Les Plateaux, and Gevrey-Chambertin From Faiveley. I think with shipping minus VAT we still should have gone a bit higher, but I'm still excited about these and look forward to trying some of your new world options.
Great selection!
Pinot Noir is my favourite grape variety, and my wife’s as well, though I prefer Burgundy, and she prefers Oregon. we also drink a lot of New Zealand and Canadian Pinots (Norman Hardie, Tawse, Stanners, Meyer Family Vineyards). I would like to drink more Pinot Nero from Italy, but have trouble finding them.
Yea they aren’t easy to get as they sell a lot in Europe
Even tasting 3 different pinots from 3 different sections of Sonoma (Russian River, Sonoma Mountain, Carneros) the taste is wildly different. At the end of the day, the best part about wine is the sheer variety of expressions. Why anyone would stick to a single territory is beyond me. THAT, im(not so)ho, is the approach that appreciates wine the least. Sorry/not sorry single territory lovers. 😅
Agreed! I believe producer is more important but this is a fun way to taste
How is English Australian ? What's difference between English Australian, English, and American ? My old sister is course English in LIA (Lambaga Indonesian American) and had certificate.
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You're down on Sonoma county Pinot? I've traveled the world and tried Pinot in 10 different countries, including Burgundy/France. I'm a Pinot fanatic and am baffled by your opinion about Sonoma county wines. Baffled I am.
Differences of opinion make the wine world richer! I am coming around on Sonoma
A mere village level Burgundy kicked the whole world"s derrière 😊. Next time up the game with 1er cru MSD or Chambolle Musigny taking on the new world Pinot Noir hot shots 😃
Village level can be excellent!
Not willa-METTE. It’s pronounced will-AM-ette.
Source: native Willamette Valley resident. 😉
Thanks :)
My favourite pinots are from the Mornington Peninsula. Value for money, amazing fruit! So easy to enjoy!
Just drank a Musigny Grand Cru 2000 from Drouhin and for the price, the quality was not there!
I’m a big fan of many regions in Victoria for Pinot Noir too
Matthew, many thanks for the nice video. I am quite surprised that NZ Pinot Noir was excluded from the tasting. They make excellent Pinot: Felton Road, Escarpment and Ata Rangi to name a few.
I’m a fan of those three producers and several more in NZD
I have had Movia’s orange wine before, but had no idea they made a Pinot Noir!
I’ve also never heard “cool whip” as a tasting note before! What do you think causes that? (Is it the vanilla in the oak or something else?)
I do think it is the combo or fruit and interplay with the oak
In my part of the World Bergundy isn't so easy to get and as such I tend to be disappointed with what is found, at a premium price. I can buy a 10 euro local Pinot Noir that will generally perform better than a 50 euro Bergundy. Probably there are lower cost ones in France or maybe better available in other countries, but for Moldova it isn't a reality and it is probably the riskiest grape for satisfaction and also the highest price point as well.
It’s a tough grape to get QPR wine
For my money, I usually stick with New World Pinot Noir. I’ve had some good Burgundies, but my every day drinking budget is 15-25 dollars and a splurge would be 50-75 dollars. Unfortunately it’s hard for me to find consistently good Burgundy at that price point. Presqu’ile Winery, Iris Vineyards, and Willamette Valley Vineyards makes some really nice entry level Pinots. When I want to splurge I usually like Domaine Serene or Domaine Drouhin from Oregon. I need to try more Pinot from all these other regions around the world! Great video and the lighting looks good 👍🏻
I like all of those producers and Jeremy from Domain Dujac is the consultant at Presqu’ile
you dont drink french burgundy wines they drink you , just the best wines the volnaywines my fav as are gevery chambertain
Whoaaa you have good taste!
All the us wines use the sane bacteria tasting like mushroom. Strong pass. You can have nice 20$ pinot noir in france. Mushroom tasting oregon pinot noir for no less than 40$
There are excellent Oregon PNs in the 25$ range
Excellent video. I live in the Oregon Applegate Valley Wine District. Extraordinary Pinot Noir available here from many vineyards. Compares well with or exceeds wine from Will AM ette
Niceee there is an Oregon Pinot Noir blind tasting vid on the channel
I’m usually an $80 Sonoma Pinot to find something sensational i.e. RAEN
Ahhh some big bucks!
Lighting is great Matthew! 👍
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Planning to visit Chateau Pommard this summer!
Ahhhh have fun
only 8 barrels made on one of these wines should have kept it for them selves ,, wekll there is only one pinot noir to drink its burgundy cant be beat pity about the price oh well life is short
Pity about the prices indeed!
Would love to drink US Pinot Noir but the truth is i havent....super curious though
Yes they are tough (and pricey) to find outside the USA
I dont know about pinot Noir but I prefer Portugal versionl only, mind you. America always talked about French, Spanish, Italian, China. I am getting tired of it. America is a racist and ignored all other foreigns. I loved Portuguese/Portugal/Azores red wine. They taste the best than in America. I dont drank America red wine like California Burgundy style (Burgundy from france taste better than Burgundy style in California) YUCKY, Cabernet (VOMIT). California red wines are absolutely taste awful. I grew up in San Miguel, Azores. Portugal. I only drink red wine there. I enjoyed Montaria (White) and (Gold), you can go with Quinta da Lapa 2016 Reserva Merlot (Tejo) which I havent tried but I was told it is great red wine. America have no respect of red wine and the cutlure. They dont know what its mean of red wine at all.
I LOOOVVEE Portuguese wines but I do disagree. The wines in California can be OUTSTANDING... Unfortunately the best ones mostly don't make it to Europe because of quantity and high prices.
Least nationalistic portugueses lol
I am a French wine drinker and I also love the Stoller wines. When you spoke of the California wines especially the last one. I noticed you mentioned flagship and it was single vineyard. I find those Pinot Noirs to generally better than just a regular Pinot. They definitely drink better.
Ahhh thanks. I did do a blind tasting of single vineyard vs standard USA Pinot Noir video on the channel which was fun
Curious, what don't you like about Sonoma Pinot?
Too me, they can often be a little too big… Sometimes they are referred to as ‘Steakhouse Pinots’.
I’ll be honest and maybe I’ll get flack for it, but the best Pinot Noir from Dundee Hills Oregon is superior to my palette compared to the best of Burgundy
Hot take indeed!
@@drmatthewhorkey Have you tried any Syrah from the Rocks District appellation of Milton-Freewater within the Walla Walla AVA? That also puts all Rhône Valley Syrah to shame 😉
best kept secret: pinot noir from switzerland.
I’ve had a lot of them and they can be stellar!
Matthew, your watch game is not bad, share one day as I see you are a collector
Hahhahah thanks. I only have two noteable ones now, have sold the others
PapaPietro Perry in Sonoma makes some great Pinots...
Ahhh nice rec!
I think you need to spend at least $20 to get good PN.
In most markets, yes!
always skip to the reveal...👍😁🍷
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All the Pinot Noir wines I have tried SUCK!!!!
A pity to hear… Pinot Noir can be disappointing esp at lower price points
@@drmatthewhorkey are there any good Pinot Noir wines at lower price points? Doctor told me to try drinking a glass of wine everyday for health reasons. $50 bottles are too expensive for everyday drinking. Pinot Noir is being touted as one of the healthiest. That is why we are looking for one at a lower price point.
Tasmania... Move out of your sphere and try some other regions.
I know the wines well and used to go to several Tasmania tastings when I lived in Asia.
@@drmatthewhorkey ah, my bad. I just didnt see Australia listed in the places you had visited, nor it mentioned in any videos. I know, living in McLaren Vale , I maybe biased. But, we make some of the best and varied wines in the world :)
The correct answer is Australia.
I LOOVVVEEE Aussie Pinot Noir
I love Pinot Noir from pretty much everywhere though my favourite ones tend to come from New Zealand which I just love for the purity of fruit and cooling nature of those wines especially if they´re from Central Otago. For value though I find German Spätburgunder really hard to beat and in Baden you can get Burgundian style wines for so much less money! I drink a lot of the Burgum Novum too but can´t get to 94 on it...
I love German PN so much but the best doesn’t leave the country. Great that you know the Burgum Novum. This was one of the better bottles from them I’ve had in addition to the 2016
@@drmatthewhorkey Top PN from Diel, Ziereisen, von Winning, Künstler, Dönhoff, Geil, Breuer, Müller-Catoir, Messmer, Selbach-Oster, Kruger-Rumpf and others are readily available in the US. I don't need to tell you about Skurnik Wines.
Yeppers! I’ve visited almost all of those producers
@@drmatthewhorkey Maybe do a special on the Ahr PNs, to help them out after the disastrous 2021 floodings. Of course, their Rieslings are also worth a try. But you already know that.
Think you need to spend at least US$500+ to access good quality Cote Du Nuits. That said Volnay1er more accessible at lower US$200 price point
Serious dough!
Another great blind Dr H 👍🏼 ~ question: is there any way to find out which wineries use additives (mega purple, etc) and which don’t? I know several “very well known” Cali wineries use MP in their Pinots 🤔 and I’d like to explore ones that don’t ~ thanks 🙏🏼
A lot of hugh quality Oregon and SBC wineries don’t… you can tell just by the color
I'm still experimenting with new world pinot noir but I'm yet to find one that really makes me fall in love the way a special burgundy can. Unfortunately.... Burgundy really makes you pay for the privilege. Lots of good pinot from new Zealand and USA but I'm yet to find one with the magic.
There are some that bring the magic but yes I hear what you are saying
Great vid, I think that you can get an excellent value Pinot noir if you go to the rhinegau in germany or the haute cotes de nuits in burgundy for under 30$
I love German Spatburgunder but a lot of it stays in the country
Prices are going through the roof in Germany and GG Spätburgunder are sold out within a few days. This video inspired me to open a Salwey - Henkenberg GG 2017 which I bought for under 30 € . In the past it was possible to order even back vintages from their shop. Now GGs are sold 6 months in advance on subscription.
Some of the finest Pinots I have tasted are the GGs from Rudolf Furst.
@@drmatthewhorkey I love the Fūrst Hundsrück GGs. The 2016 vintage drinks beautiful right now but the last release is already over 160 € if found at all.
Craggy range Pinot noir is the 1st red wine that made me hooked on wine. First taste, nothing spectacular , but with a German pork knuckle, flavours starts busting.
I’m a fan too. I didn’t realize that about you though!
Not a huge Pinot Noir fan. And I totally admit I'm not very experienced with PN. The best ones I've had so far were from the Santa Rita Hills. And by the way yes, really like the lighting in this video. Keep up the god work!
Ahhh thanks and Sta. Rita Hills is a great place to have PN
Great video! Love seeing you feature off-the-beaten path regions.I've got to try some Pinot from Slovenia and Alto Adige! Also happy to see the top two; I first learned to love wine on a vacation to the Sonoma Coast, so I have a soft spot for Sonoma Coast Pinots. Emeritus is good, but there are lots of other producers that I think are just as good if not better (Littorai, Fort Ross, Arista, Lynmar, Porter Bass, Red Car are all wine I prefer to Emeritus). And of course I love Burgundy too. Honestly, I've been overall a bit underwhelmed by Oregon, even after a trip to the Willamette Valley. Nice lighting btw.
Ahhhh thanks! You’ll see more Sonoma Pinot coming soon
You are doing an amazing job! I just discovered your page, so thank you. I’m born and raised on Keuka Lake in the finger lakes and Konstantin Frank was a family friend. I’m loving your page. I love Pinot Noirs.
Thanks! Ahhh you were always drinking great wine then
can you do a show on expensive supermarket wines? like beverly hills VONS?
Maybe in the future but there are several supermarket (costco, trader joes, etc) videos on the channel
I tried some Domaine Fourrey Pinot - they are normally a great Premiere Cru Chablis, so the Pinot is cheaper AND amazingly tart and crisp. I like it at $23
Ahhh nice tip!
Great again. Thank you. So many really great cheap wines these days too. Pinot Noir is becoming almost a sure thing but always different, big change! More please.
More to come!
I also have a love hate relationship with Pinot Noir and I certainly don't drink too much of it. Love burgundy when it's well made and more mature but I recently had a really delicious NZ one. Alto adige Pinot Nero is also very interesting to me.
NZD does make some lovely ones!
I'm a fan of pinot, the Mrs however doesn't seem to favour it so we tend not to buy much. Certainly don't spend too much on a bottle but one of note to me is the Stonier Pinot from the Mornington Peninsula. Definitely got that cool climate character going on. Light and clean!
I am a HUGE fan of those from Mornington Peninsula too
i would put up a kosta browne 2009 thru 2011 against almost any wine in france !
😮😮😮 good producer indeed
Go with a pinot noir from burgundy. Tell her all you know is that area is famous but you would love to hear her opinion about other regions.
Who is her? Hahaha
Great review
Just got home (north of Sydney) from Tasmania where I tasted some exceptional Pinots. Gala Estate on the east coast was my favourite. Their 2018 black label ($65AUD) was my pick from my holiday.
Let us know if you are coming down under and we will be happy to share some. 🍷 🍷
Ahhh thanks. I’ve done several big Tasmanian tastings too and there are some delicious producers
LOL, yes, I agree with your thoughts and opinions. Didn't expect to see your comment here. How are you doing? I'm Jesse, do you remember?🤣
your edit to your happy man grunt at 6:30 made me chuckle. couldn't help but watch a few times over.
Hahahaha thanks! I wanted to keep funny moments like that
Around the €20,- range for me, Germany has the best price quality Spätburgunders. I love to drink Pinot Noir, I think it is the second best grape in the world to make wine from.
I second that. Deutzerhof for instance makes somes great GG Spätburgunders. Also Jean Stodden is worth a try and a visit.
I love German Spaties but they don’t always make it outside the country and the top ones like Stodden and Furst are climbing in price!
Wow you got blessed on this tasting,thank you so much for all your work ,the only thing left to say is ,wish I was there with you ,2 thumbs up brother
Hahahah thanks, yes tastings like this I wish I could share with everyone
Tasmanian Pinot and a few producers in NZ also produce excellent wines
I am a big fan of NZD and Aussie Pinot too!
Thanks for a great video, I love your enthusiasm. It was a fun one to watch with surprising results. Cheers.
Ahhh thanks!
One Pinot I really like that I don't hear a lot about is Belle Glos. They have several vineyards throughout California.
I developed a love for wine in the mid-to-late 1970s by drinking French red burgundy back when it was affordable. My go-to bottle was the grand cru Charmes Charmbertain, which, believe it or not, I could buy for about $13 in 1978. Today, you cannot find this bottle for anything under $100 and usually well above that. I also loved Grand Cru Chablis, which was available at a similar price. Good Chablis, although expensive, is affordable today for occasionally indulging. Oddly, NV French Champagne back in the day cost $30. Considering inflation, it is actually cheaper than is was back then. NV Champagne can be regularly found at around $50.
I love (and get sad) about hearing those old stories about when Burgundy and top flight Bordeaux was affordable
Belle Glos doesn’t get mentioned a lot on the wine YT channels because it’s a highly manufactured wine and not really expressive of varietal, vintage, or terroir, which is what wine nerds (myself included) go crazy about.
That doesn’t mean Belle Glos doesn’t taste good - it’s just not a wine nerd’s Pinot.
@@arturog.faustoberumen7336 I guess that I am not a wine nerd.
Would love to see a rose Pinot noir comparison with the warm weather coming up
You will see one in an upcoming rosé video
A fun video, but also one that I have some mixed feelings about. It was great that you included Slovenia and Alto Adige. But excluding Australia, New Zealand and Germany did seem a bit strange.
Out here in Asia New Zealand is usually my go to country for affordable, decent PN. Affordable German Spatburgunder is becoming more available, though it's usually always entry level wines. Cool climate/region South African PN has also impressed me, it's often a midway point between European PN and Aussie/Kiwi PN. I do have Piemonte Pinot Nero that I am looking forward to opening some time soon.
I’m a huge fan of all of those countries. Some South African Pinots have made it on the channel. For some reason it’s reslly tough for me to get aussie and nzd ones
There's excellent PN producers in many countries - it'd probably be pretty challenging to include all of them, not to mention the video would be super, super long. Plus, the PN from lesser known countries aren't going to be as easy to find in the states. For example, there's a tremendous amount of truly awesome PN from Patagonia (AR), but good luck finding anything but Chacra (which is great - don't get me wrong) outside South America.
LOL, yes, I agree with your thoughts and opinions. Didn't expect to see your comment here. How are you doing? I'm Jesse, do you remember?🤣
Thanks for doing these videos. I enjoy them week in and week out.
Ahhhh thanks and great screenname hahaha
Great video ! Good PN is really hard to buy in a fair price. My eyes were in the Slovenian and the italian ones ! Nice !
Ahhhh thanks! Happy hunting
LOL, yes, I agree with your thoughts and opinions. Didn't expect to see your comment here. How are you doing? I'm Jesse, do you remember?🤣
I am not so sure on pinot noir, I have definitely had some fabulous ones! But for the money it's just not really worth it for me. I hosted a tasting a couple months ago where we had a 2001 Bouchard père & fils le Corton grand cru, 2001 Comte Armand Pommard 1er cru, 1996 Faiveley Cortons grand cru, 2003 Jean Grivot Vosne-Romanée 1er cru. While I gave all of these a world of praise and they were absolutely amazing wines, I just can't justify drinking wine from a region where the entry level price for good wine is over $100. I've also had some great German, NZ and American pinot noirs, but none of them even come close to Burgundy. I will stick to my Bordeaux!
I friend of mine is actually hosting an English pinot noir tasting in a couple of weeks which will be very interesting! We're tasting both reds and sparkling blanc de noirs. I absolutely love blanc de noirs Champagne and the few English ones I've had have been great as well!
Ahhhh that should be fun, I love Blanc de Noirs too.