I had a friend who worked on the original film as an extra. Apparently Oliver Reed just lived in a local bar, instead of a trailer to get ready he would be at a bar and they would call him in for his scenes. Fun review.
@@michellebiland5163 I think you're right. Didn't they have to use a digital version of him to complete his scenes? All of this totally tracks. RIP to Reed. One of a kind.
Like for Napoleon, Scott's disregard for history creates missed opportunities. Geta and Caracalla, instead of being pasty dandies, were the first Roman emperors of unambiguously middle-eastern descent, for example. Their Syrian-born mother was the most powerful person in Rome, since her war-obsessed sons left all civil administration to her. In a time when clueless producers are giving us black Cleopatra, the real history could have given us an interesting ethnic dynamic to explore.
Neither Gladiator has anything to do with history beyond some names, really. It's much more of an issue with Napoleon, imo, which is actually pretending to be historical and is way off the mark.
@TheDemonicPenguin I agree. But I just think that a more historically accurate setting would have made it better and the historic Caracalla and Geta were more interesting than the fictional versions presented in the film.
Gladiator 2 was accurate to history. It was more accurate than the original. Not a better film. Not at all, but it was more realistic in showing how fucked up and depraved people are capable of being. People in the past thought of creative ways to end someone's life, like being thrown to a bunch of wild baboons. Or fighting to the death at a palace feast. The Romans were truly sick.
@@DestinyAwaits19 First mistake is to judge ancient people with modern ideals and philosophies they would not have understood but a modern audience takes for granted being ingrained in them. Gladiators did not often fight to the death. Survival rate: Only about 1 in 9 fights ended in death. Some historians say the number was closer to 1 in 5 or 1 in 10. So that is wrong. Also statues in ancient time would have been painted and wear clothing not modern museum bare marble. Painted: Roman statues were painted in vibrant colors to enhance their appearance. They were painted to resemble real bodies, including their hair, eyes, lips, clothing, weaponry, and bloody wounds. Clothed: Most Roman statues, like the statue of Augustus, are clothed. So that is wrong. One of the spectacles at the games in the Colosseum in Rome was the Venationes or animal hunts.Forget the film Gladiator or the glitzy series Spartacus. The hunters or venator were not gladiators, there was no heavy armour or swords. The Venators were trained animal handlers without armour - graffiti from the colosseum shows us men in loincloths with spears, sometimes on horseback with bows and arrows. As with the gladiator bouts the crowd was focused on the style, bravery and skill of the hunter. the colosseum was transformed to create a version of reality - the landscape where these creatures are found. Scenery was used, - boulders, bushes, even trees and perhaps large sets. This scenery or apparatus was needed to cover the trapdoors and mechanics under the arena so that it appeared to the crowd as if animals came out of caves or from trees. This was a real live hunt in realistic landscape. So that baboon thing was wrong.
I was entertained. But in different ways. Gladiator 2 did some things better than the original like depicting how sick and depraved people are capable of being when there is no such thing as human rights. When no one has any rights anyone can be killed or disposed of. The scene where the Emperors got the two men to fight to the death in the palace banquet, or being thrown to the baboons. Nobody had any value. Not even the leaders.
The tiger in gladiator was REAL, apart from one scene where cgi was used as it would be too dangerous to use the actual tiger , and a puppet or animatronic tiger was used when maximus stabs the tiger and kills it. I'm still looking forward to see this movie but I will keep my expectations lower than the first gladiator which is one of my most favorite movies ever . Great review
@D12345 cgi was used in the movie, like in the battle in Germania at the beginning of gladiator to cover the more expanisve shots . There were also practical effects used but the scene with the tiger was mostly non cgi and even ridley Scott in interviews and Russe Crowe talked about the real tiger in that gladiatorial fight. More cgi by far is being used in gladiator 2
No I'm not doubting that. Like to populate scenes and in some action and open shots etc. I'm just saying hand to hand combat, animals, chariots, fire, much of this is practical. I think as someone else put it what they mean is more compositing images. If it had come out today it would be more CGI probably.
The entire Coliseum sequence, where he's fighting the tiger and fighting other people the entire Coliseum sequences Ridley Scott has said was all on a sound stage using green screen and several shots of the tiger were shot with a fake stuffed tiger especially when the tiger is dead. Scott said they had to use effects and cgi shots cause they couldn't recreate a lot of the stuff in some wide shots with action and the coliseum using practical effects. There's several shots in the coliseum that don't look good today and didn't look good in 2000 when I saw it. To each their own
I saw this movie and it felt like a direct-to-DVD sequel, so many storylines were rushed in the third act. Ridley Scott really needs to ditch David Scarpa as a screenwriter to make better movies.
I actually enjoyed Gladiator 2. Yes it doesn't reach the heights of the original, and yes the acting was forced and hammy. But it was brilliant in other ways. It revealed how sick and debauched Roman society was, how people grew fat and indulgent while revelling in the death of others, how no one's loyalty can be trusted, how nobody has any value. Life was cheap. And dispensed with like a dirty rag at any given chance. That alone qualifies realism.
I'd give it somewhere in the 5.5-6.5 range. Things that dragged the score down Pacing Editing Character decisions Emotional beats didn't quite land Some of the acting was off (like denzel washington) Cgi animals were terrible The luicius is maximus' son story doesn't work. The war speeches don't land. The twins were poor.
There is nothing boring about the first gladiator. It was just on last night. It is one of few movies I don’t mind watching again. When Gladiator came out in 2000 Russell Crowe and Joaquin Phoenix weren’t well known. I remember buying it on VHS and then I bought the DVD. These days sequels seem so unnecessary. Especially when it comes like 25 years later. The Beetlejuice sequel wasn’t needed either.
I'm' kind of surprised that Christy was surprised by how much of her audience have strong feelings about the original"Gladiator". That HAS always been a VERY POPULAR AND MUCH LOVED MOVIE. Just for example it has an IMDB score of "8.5". Which places it "35th" on IMDB's top 250 list of the greatest movies of all time (according to IMDB voters).
It’s Denzel that makes Training Day a movie worth watching. He deserved the Academy Award for that movie. But on repeated viewings, you do discover more and more plot holes.
So they’ve filled the colosseum with water and sharks? If that was an actual thing back then I want answers. How did they transport actual sharks, seeing as they have to keep swimming in order to stay alive. Where did they store them on “dry days” at the colosseum? I suspect questions like this aren’t going to be answered. And because of that it’s so unbelievable and over cooked. I’m not going to bother.
I doubt there were sharks, but, yes, naval battles were staged in the colosseum. When we toured the place, they shared how the water was directed from the aqueducts into the arena. Pretty cool stuff!
Thank you so much for your review. It opens on Friday 15, here in Spain and the ticket is in my pocket. I guess they need to see how it works in some countries before it opens in the US.
The general consensus seems to be that audiences and critics are not entertained by “Gladiator II”. Honestly, “Gladiator” was a great standalone film. There was no need for a sequel.
I was able to see an early screening of this movie and I honestly thought it was really good! Everyone is bi, the action scenes are captivating enough that they don’t feel over played, and the movie moved along at a good pace in my opinion
Me too. I thought it done alright. Gladiator 2 is brilliant in other ways. It's a movie that captures the immorality and sickening behavior of Roman society, how people have no respect for the dignity of others, how life was not sacred but something to be drowned in blood and violent depravity, how the emperor's watched 2 men fight to their death as they feasted and drank on goblets at a royal gathering.
I liked the film. I saw it yesterday with my son as it came out on the 14th here in Australia. It wasn't as good as the Gladiator 2000 film, but Ridley Scott still delivers. All the performances were solid, and Denzel Washington clearly making the most of his role, slightly over the top performance. Crazy monkeys and sharks aside, bravo Ridley Scott!
That’s a very “solid” review. 😉 You were somewhat entertained. If both of you do get to revisit/review the original Gladiator, I recommend the extended edition where it fills the gaps in the story. Even if you find the original boring (which I think is impossible for anyone to find it that way), the extended edition of the original is a better film overall in my opinion.
Thank you Christy and Alonso for this review. Not a fan of the first film (Traffic should have won). However, Denzel is killing it in the trailer. Plus, I like Paul Mescal. Still, it's a Ridley Scott film so I was going in with low expectations. Now I know what to expect. Appreciate you two!
It looks fun. I guess it won't be a major Oscar contender besides the craft categories and maybe Denzel but that's also fine. Will be seeing it in IMAX with a couple friends the opening weekend regardless.
Ridley Scott doesn’t seem to be slowing down. A year ago Napoleon came out. Another big, but not so great movie. However I always want to see a Ridley Scott movie on the big screen. I’m a fan of the first Gladiator and love Denzel. I’ll see it in a theatre. Christy there seems to be a trend with “it was good then it wasn’t” with movies lately 😂.
I was not a fan of the original, but I would have been first in line to see this movie if one of the emperors was actually named Capricius, and if the son of Maximus was named Minimus.
I really want to see it. What really baffles me is there hasn’t been a good movie coming out in a while. Hoping this will be brought or perceived with a rekindled love for filmography. I want to see house of gucci 😇👼🏻
Please tell me you're not serious. It's like children in a sandbox and that's fine but that's where your thinking belongs. If they continue to pander to your kind of thinking it is a race to the bottom of ideas where there is nothing left of legitimate quality or merit.
What about the score? I loved it in the first one! I’m not excited about seeing it because I just know it’s not going to compare to Gladiator. I’m one of those who loved it. Thanks guys!!!!♥️🐅
I didn't really care for the first, so this has the same feeling, one day I may give it a shot. I did watch The Dead Don't Hurt, it was ok, a 7. You guys didn't review it which kind of surprised me.
It’s not a patch on the first one. I like Paul Mescal as an actor but you can’t help compare him with Russell Crowe and Russell had more emotional pull. Thought the eldest emperor was great.
I love the original - the underdog hero with heart of gold. But I was not excited when the trailer for this movie came out. It sounded decent enough if not great.
I really liked the first Gladiator. I'm not hearing great things about this and it doesn't make me really excited for something I wasn't really excited for in the first place.
I was so excited for this because the first is my much watched all time favourite film, and now I wish I’d never seen the sequel, it’s so disappointing!! I got home and watched the first one again to banish the memory. A wasted opportunity
I would say that it's actually BECAUSE I enjoy the original so much that this one just has no pull for me. You mentioned CGI, but that first movie used it just in a few places (crowd at the Colosseum and the tigers here and there) where necessary but otherwise had a ton of real people running around real sets. The trailer for this sequel feels like every shot has CGI in it. The bigger, crazier fights just smack of stacked on CGI. EDIT: And big sandals to fill? Crowe was good, but Joaquin Phoenix's Commodus was a top tier villain. Every scene he was in was riveting. I don't think Caligula Light X2 would be able to hold a candle to him. Sometimes it's okay to just let a great movie be a great movie and move on. I'll pass on this sequel.
My foggy memory recalls Russell Crowe's self-pronouncement of who he is.....and the softball dream ending....and yes inconsistent CGI.....so we'll have to dig back....but on the surface, if I had to blindly choose between Gladiator II & the pseudo-live action Lion King....well...foregone conclusion; lol....
Like you guys being surprised that so many people like the original Gladiator movie… I thought the 2000 film was universally beloved until I read the comments section here lol
Unfortunately, this was the secret movie at the AMC Screen Unseen last night. Usually, that is for smaller films to generate word of mouth. Is it possible that this is expected to not do well, given this placement? I thought about walking over to Anora again, and I wish I had. I really didn't like it. I was bored from about 10 minutes. Utterly unnecessary, and not entertaining or exciting at all. The performances were all fine to good, especially Denzel and Joseph Quinn, but to what end? Mescal is fine. So much better in Aftersun and Strangers, but he's definitely got star power. I will be happy to see him in better projects later. It's interesting how these last few Scott films could have been so much better had he just fully embraced camp instead of merely flirting with it. Napoleon was not quite silly enough to be fun. Same for Gucci.
@arpitakodagu9854 To be fair, there should also have been fewer blond Romans. If we don't like seeing blacks playing berbers, it's only fair for us to object to Englishmen playing ancient Italians as well.
To be fair, 1/5 of the Romans were called Lucius. Those who weren't Marcus, Gaius or any of the 9 other prenames. The question is: who would have been his legal father, because then he would be Lucius Something, which would properly identify him. This is a "no thanks" to me. But I'll eventually check it up on tv...
Ridley Scott always bores me. Lots of surface spectacle and noise and an empty core. Why would one expect something different? Sound and fury signifying nothing....
The only thing I truly loved about the first movie was the epic scenery chewing by Oliver Reed and Richard Harris. Late stage alcoholism never again spun such cinematic gold! The rest of the movie was about killing off sissies and elevating mute "real men" to sainthood.
You’re welcome to take a look around our channel at the many, many films we’ve liked lately, including Anora, Blitz, Juror #2 and Christmas Eve at Miller’s Point.
I find harping on CG in a movie to be small potatoes. It all becomes outdated eventually unless it’s an Avatar movie. Watched some LotR clips the other day and Smeagle looks downright amateur compared to what we have today. If the movie and story is good I can deal with some cartoony animals.
I understand why you don’t like this movie. But I loved it. I loved the characters and of course the artistic elements that one takes for granted from Ridley Scott I’ll admit the story has contrived elements and hits the same beats of the first movie. But I like what it tried to do which was showing another side to some one who you think is a bad guy but is decent. And you think Denzel is a good guy but we see he’s playing every one. I liked its themes of political deception and as a fantasy film it’s a nice story of a little guy fighting to restore justice for a free and just Rome hit the right spot for me. I’m opening my self of to trolls and I don’t want to get too political but In light of the current election witch upsets me this was the fantasy I needed to be in. I also like the fact that there is a big nutty studio movie in an arrow where we had more diversity on the big screen. I probably wouldn’t like this movie. But we’re at risk of losing cinema to comic book movies. I like the sincerity of emotions I like movies that make me feel things and it’s really not hard. Also every Ridley Scott film these days is a gem he’s and Gorge Miller are the last directors to understand the cinematic language of Kurosawa. Mabey I’m dumb because I also like Joker: Folie à Deux
My question is “why?”. Like why even do this? The first one was huge, I get it, but it was a self contained movie that didn’t set up a sequel. I guess the studios are just addicted to this sequel/prequel/recognizable IP thing. They are like heroin addicts at this point.
I liked the original, but Ripley can't make a good movie anymore. He hasn't made a great movie in a decade. Napolean could have been special, the PERFECT 10 part streaming series to end his career in style, but he showed why he should have retired from directing in 2015. He's too old, too stuck in his ways and too derivative to make anything special. He also sucks at making non-fiction History dramas, he's never made a good one. The Martian was his best film over the last 10 years and The Last Duel was good, but not great.
Gladiator 2 is like Avengers Movie. And Denzel Washington is good but not excellent. A classic movie never needs a sequel. Remember the first battle on Gladiator and see in initial battle of this one . Compare . The genius Ridley Scot lost his touch . No problem , he s human.
Was insane seeing the dude bros come after you for not loving the original Gladiator, why are ppl so sensitive esp about things that in the grand scheme of things don't fundamentally matter?!
@@Pswayze23 - But ironically the only reason Maximus worked as a lead character, was because he was romantic and tragic. Meaning, his more sensitive and feminine personality traits.
I had a friend who worked on the original film as an extra. Apparently Oliver Reed just lived in a local bar, instead of a trailer to get ready he would be at a bar and they would call him in for his scenes.
Fun review.
There will never be another Olly Reed-RIP legend.
😂😂😂 So Oliver Reed.
No surprises. He died during filming, I believe.
@@michellebiland5163 I think you're right. Didn't they have to use a digital version of him to complete his scenes? All of this totally tracks. RIP to Reed. One of a kind.
@@brianstout8847 100%
Like for Napoleon, Scott's disregard for history creates missed opportunities. Geta and Caracalla, instead of being pasty dandies, were the first Roman emperors of unambiguously middle-eastern descent, for example. Their Syrian-born mother was the most powerful person in Rome, since her war-obsessed sons left all civil administration to her. In a time when clueless producers are giving us black Cleopatra, the real history could have given us an interesting ethnic dynamic to explore.
Neither Gladiator has anything to do with history beyond some names, really. It's much more of an issue with Napoleon, imo, which is actually pretending to be historical and is way off the mark.
@TheDemonicPenguin I agree. But I just think that a more historically accurate setting would have made it better and the historic Caracalla and Geta were more interesting than the fictional versions presented in the film.
Make Caligula II.
YEAH!🎉
Gladiator 2 was accurate to history. It was more accurate than the original. Not a better film. Not at all, but it was more realistic in showing how fucked up and depraved people are capable of being. People in the past thought of creative ways to end someone's life, like being thrown to a bunch of wild baboons. Or fighting to the death at a palace feast. The Romans were truly sick.
@@DestinyAwaits19
First mistake is to judge ancient people with modern ideals and philosophies they would not have understood but a modern audience takes for granted being ingrained in them.
Gladiators did not often fight to the death. Survival rate: Only about 1 in 9 fights ended in death. Some historians say the number was closer to 1 in 5 or 1 in 10. So that is wrong. Also statues in ancient time would have been painted and wear clothing not modern museum bare marble. Painted: Roman statues were painted in vibrant colors to enhance their appearance. They were painted to resemble real bodies, including their hair, eyes, lips, clothing, weaponry, and bloody wounds. Clothed: Most Roman statues, like the statue of Augustus, are clothed. So that is wrong.
One of the spectacles at the games in the Colosseum in Rome was the Venationes or animal hunts.Forget the film Gladiator or the glitzy series Spartacus. The hunters or venator were not gladiators, there was no heavy armour or swords. The Venators were trained animal handlers without armour - graffiti from the colosseum shows us men in loincloths with spears, sometimes on horseback with bows and arrows. As with the gladiator bouts the crowd was focused on the style, bravery and skill of the hunter. the colosseum was transformed to create a version of reality - the landscape where these creatures are found. Scenery was used, - boulders, bushes, even trees and perhaps large sets. This scenery or apparatus was needed to cover the trapdoors and mechanics under the arena so that it appeared to the crowd as if animals came out of caves or from trees. This was a real live hunt in realistic landscape. So that baboon thing was wrong.
So, we're you not entertained?!
"Were"
perfect comment.
😂😂😂
I was entertained. But in different ways. Gladiator 2 did some things better than the original like depicting how sick and depraved people are capable of being when there is no such thing as human rights. When no one has any rights anyone can be killed or disposed of. The scene where the Emperors got the two men to fight to the death in the palace banquet, or being thrown to the baboons. Nobody had any value. Not even the leaders.
Resounding affirmative 👍
The tiger in gladiator was REAL, apart from one scene where cgi was used as it would be too dangerous to use the actual tiger , and a puppet or animatronic tiger was used when maximus stabs the tiger and kills it. I'm still looking forward to see this movie but I will keep my expectations lower than the first gladiator which is one of my most favorite movies ever . Great review
@@sebraven yeah very little CGI was used in that movie!! Particularly with the tigers. I'm not sure what they are talking about.??? 🤔
that's the thing that bugs me when people use the term "cgi." It was clearly a compositing shot.
@D12345 cgi was used in the movie, like in the battle in Germania at the beginning of gladiator to cover the more expanisve shots . There were also practical effects used but the scene with the tiger was mostly non cgi and even ridley Scott in interviews and Russe Crowe talked about the real tiger in that gladiatorial fight. More cgi by far is being used in gladiator 2
No I'm not doubting that. Like to populate scenes and in some action and open shots etc. I'm just saying hand to hand combat, animals, chariots, fire, much of this is practical. I think as someone else put it what they mean is more compositing images. If it had come out today it would be more CGI probably.
The entire Coliseum sequence, where he's fighting the tiger and fighting other people the entire Coliseum sequences Ridley Scott has said was all on a sound stage using green screen and several shots of the tiger were shot with a fake stuffed tiger especially when the tiger is dead. Scott said they had to use effects and cgi shots cause they couldn't recreate a lot of the stuff in some wide shots with action and the coliseum using practical effects. There's several shots in the coliseum that don't look good today and didn't look good in 2000 when I saw it. To each their own
Actually, a lot of the tiger shots in the first film were real. Some of them were dummy tigers.
So he didn't fight and kill a tiger??
Speaking of Rome, we need a film about Nero. He was definitely the coolest Roman Emperor.
Bro he killed his mother. it's not cool lol.
@@j.f.almeida9081 it’s dramatic.
That’s fun too
@@crakatoot5480 Geta and Caracala are the closest things to Nero on film. They are drowning in depravity in this movie.
@@DestinyAwaits19 ohhh sounds fun
@@DestinyAwaits19I disagree the characters talk about how much everyone hates them but never actually shows us
there are no cgi tigers in the first movie.. its a real one and there is only one.
I saw this movie and it felt like a direct-to-DVD sequel, so many storylines were rushed in the third act. Ridley Scott really needs to ditch David Scarpa as a screenwriter to make better movies.
Or he could just retire. He's 86.
@@Philbert-s2c Yeah but I'm always curious to see what popcorn entertainment he has for us even if it's hit or miss.
Come ooon, he's a legend, he's earned the right to retire whenever he wants.
@@tlovehater I totally agree. 👍
I actually enjoyed Gladiator 2. Yes it doesn't reach the heights of the original, and yes the acting was forced and hammy. But it was brilliant in other ways. It revealed how sick and debauched Roman society was, how people grew fat and indulgent while revelling in the death of others, how no one's loyalty can be trusted, how nobody has any value. Life was cheap. And dispensed with like a dirty rag at any given chance. That alone qualifies realism.
I'd give it somewhere in the 5.5-6.5 range.
Things that dragged the score down
Pacing
Editing
Character decisions
Emotional beats didn't quite land
Some of the acting was off (like denzel washington)
Cgi animals were terrible
The luicius is maximus' son story doesn't work.
The war speeches don't land.
The twins were poor.
There is nothing boring about the first gladiator. It was just on last night. It is one of few movies I don’t mind watching again. When Gladiator came out in 2000 Russell Crowe and Joaquin Phoenix weren’t well known. I remember buying it on VHS and then I bought the DVD. These days sequels seem so unnecessary. Especially when it comes like 25 years later. The Beetlejuice sequel wasn’t needed either.
Gladiator 2 and Anora are the only movies I’m itching and excited to see this year… 🙌🏼🙊
Heh. I saw both movies in one evening. It was a long evening.
Anora was so good. I want to see it again.
I'm' kind of surprised that Christy was surprised by how much of her audience have strong feelings about the original"Gladiator". That HAS always been a VERY POPULAR AND MUCH LOVED MOVIE.
Just for example it has an IMDB score of "8.5". Which places it "35th" on IMDB's top 250 list of the greatest movies of all time (according to IMDB voters).
Best Picture Winner, One of the most popular movies in the last 20 years, ranked in most peoples greatest films of all time list...
I think she's referring to how many people praise it but also how many people have really strong issues with it
Yes looking forward to gladiator 2
I think Training Day is overrated, but seeing Denzel play a villian or campy nefarious type is always a pleasure. I’m watching in IMAX for sure.
It’s Denzel that makes Training Day a movie worth watching. He deserved the Academy Award for that movie. But on repeated viewings, you do discover more and more plot holes.
Denzel makes the film good.
I absolutely loooove the original, and i am a huge Ridley Scott fan, i love all his films, i am so excited to see this!
Trust me you'll come out feeling entertained but a little bit underwhelmed. Ridley Scott really needs a better screenwriter for his movies.
All?
@@GandRpictures yes and i don't apologize for it
Kingdom of heaven' come on be honest!😮
Star Wars The Force Awakens left me feeling used.
The same move as the first, only much worse.
Gladiator 2 ........
So they’ve filled the colosseum with water and sharks? If that was an actual thing back then I want answers. How did they transport actual sharks, seeing as they have to keep swimming in order to stay alive. Where did they store them on “dry days” at the colosseum? I suspect questions like this aren’t going to be answered. And because of that it’s so unbelievable and over cooked. I’m not going to bother.
This movie looks like a cheap rehash but the Romans did actually flood the Colosseum for a naval battle. The shark idea is stupid though.
@@ColoradoStreaming Thanks, good to know
I doubt there were sharks, but, yes, naval battles were staged in the colosseum. When we toured the place, they shared how the water was directed from the aqueducts into the arena. Pretty cool stuff!
Thank you so much for your review. It opens on Friday 15, here in Spain and the ticket is in my pocket. I guess they need to see how it works in some countries before it opens in the US.
The general consensus seems to be that audiences and critics are not entertained by “Gladiator II”. Honestly, “Gladiator” was a great standalone film. There was no need for a sequel.
“Gladiator” was a great standalone film. There was no need for a sequel. Thats why i have zero interest to see this movie
yea no, the film literally has the same aggregate score on metacritic as the first one rn
It's currently at 77% on RT. That's not bad, flawed metric, though it is.
@@TheDemonicPenguin Considering the current state of hollywood, i dont even pay attention to the ratings
Great review! I'll go in with expectations a little bit lower and hope to enjoy it :)
I was able to see an early screening of this movie and I honestly thought it was really good! Everyone is bi, the action scenes are captivating enough that they don’t feel over played, and the movie moved along at a good pace in my opinion
Me too. I thought it done alright. Gladiator 2 is brilliant in other ways. It's a movie that captures the immorality and sickening behavior of Roman society, how people have no respect for the dignity of others, how life was not sacred but something to be drowned in blood and violent depravity, how the emperor's watched 2 men fight to their death as they feasted and drank on goblets at a royal gathering.
Roger Elbert on the first Gladiator: “worst movie to win best pic at the Oscars. The battle scenes look like pro wrestling”
That and Shakespeare in Love did not deserve to win best picture
Roger Ebert
I didn't like the first one that much, so even though I like the cast, I'm not in any rush to see this one.
I liked the film. I saw it yesterday with my son as it came out on the 14th here in Australia. It wasn't as good as the Gladiator 2000 film, but Ridley Scott still delivers. All the performances were solid, and Denzel Washington clearly making the most of his role, slightly over the top performance. Crazy monkeys and sharks aside, bravo Ridley Scott!
Ohhhhh…..you guys should do best and worst Best Pictures. That would be fun
That’s a very “solid” review. 😉 You were somewhat entertained.
If both of you do get to revisit/review the original Gladiator, I recommend the extended edition where it fills the gaps in the story. Even if you find the original boring (which I think is impossible for anyone to find it that way), the extended edition of the original is a better film overall in my opinion.
How’s the music (esp without Hans) x
Grace Randolph was very disappointed in 2’s music, and she loved the music in 1, she purchased it.
Thank you Christy and Alonso for this review. Not a fan of the first film (Traffic should have won). However, Denzel is killing it in the trailer. Plus, I like Paul Mescal. Still, it's a Ridley Scott film so I was going in with low expectations. Now I know what to expect. Appreciate you two!
Traffic was so excellent went what a riot. I finally saw it on netflix
Traffic? jesus
22nd? it's out in 2 days in some European countries
That's great!
It looks fun. I guess it won't be a major Oscar contender besides the craft categories and maybe Denzel but that's also fine. Will be seeing it in IMAX with a couple friends the opening weekend regardless.
The tiger shots in the first one was with real tigers and puppets.
I always forget Liz Taylor was British as well.
Get well soon Christy.
We need a regular slot where Alonzo sings.
Russel Crow was outstanding, I will try to stream this to compare
Love Breakfast All Day ❤
You didn’t know people loved Gladiator? 🔫
Not to this extent!
Oy, it sounds confusing. But all I really care about is if Pedro was good in it lol. I adore him and would fight for him 🤭
Actually every one say he should be the lead . He is more like a roman man than paul mescal
I hope the movie is as entertaining as your review. I love that you mentioned the campiness.
Ha, thanks Lee!
GIANT SANDAL LOL
Richard Harris was in the first movie right.
He was indeed. He was Marcus Aurelias.
Ridley Scott doesn’t seem to be slowing down. A year ago Napoleon came out. Another big, but not so great movie. However I always want to see a Ridley Scott movie on the big screen. I’m a fan of the first Gladiator and love Denzel. I’ll see it in a theatre.
Christy there seems to be a trend with “it was good then it wasn’t” with movies lately 😂.
I was not a fan of the original, but I would have been first in line to see this movie if one of the emperors was actually named Capricius, and if the son of Maximus was named Minimus.
I really want to see it. What really baffles me is there hasn’t been a good movie coming out in a while. Hoping this will be brought or perceived with a rekindled love for filmography. I want to see house of gucci 😇👼🏻
There was a rumor about a Gladiator 2 script seeibg Crowes character travel through time fighting nazis. Hopefully they will make that next!
Please tell me you're not serious. It's like children in a sandbox and that's fine but that's where your thinking belongs. If they continue to pander to your kind of thinking it is a race to the bottom of ideas where there is nothing left of legitimate quality or merit.
@@TheycallmeMrWonka Well it surely is bonkers
What about the score? I loved it in the first one! I’m not excited about seeing it because I just know it’s not going to compare to Gladiator. I’m one of those who loved it. Thanks guys!!!!♥️🐅
Will you all be reviewing THE PENGUIN?
Do you mean the HBO series? Yes, we recapped it on our Patreon, you can find all those videos here: www.patreon.com/collection/768213
Caligula was a great film.
I've never seen Gladiator 1 but if Gladiator 2 doesn't have a big amount of full frontal men in their birthday suits, I don't want it.
😂😂😂
I didn't really care for the first, so this has the same feeling, one day I may give it a shot. I did watch The Dead Don't Hurt, it was ok, a 7. You guys didn't review it which kind of surprised me.
Do new original movies exist anymore
Yes! We review lots of them here, take a look around.
The tigers in Gladiator were not CGI. They were real tigers ans puppets. I believe the only CGI creature in that movie was Oliver Reed.
It’s not a patch on the first one. I like Paul Mescal as an actor but you can’t help compare him with Russell Crowe and Russell had more emotional pull. Thought the eldest emperor was great.
I love the original - the underdog hero with heart of gold.
But I was not excited when the trailer for this movie came out. It sounded decent enough if not great.
Ridley picks the wrong movies to make most of the time. His last good movie was American Gangster, over 20 years ago.
Nah, _All the Money in the World_ was fantastic.
I really liked The Last Duel. And also The House of Gucci. But Gladiator 2 and Napoleon - urgh!!
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Still need to see Last Duel. Jodie Comer and Matt Damon with Nicole Holofcener writing sounds amazing.
I just saw it. It wasn't worth paying for. I should've waited to see it at home.
This was hugely entertaining. A great cinema experience.
I really liked the first Gladiator. I'm not hearing great things about this and it doesn't make me really excited for something I wasn't really excited for in the first place.
Amazing review ❤
Technically this is not a historical film but a Warhammer medieval fantasy film disguised with Roman characters.
😴 I think Gladiator 1 is SOO boring, but my wife loves it which makes me excited to watch the second one with her. 👑
Damn, thought yalls number would be lower 😂
I was so excited for this because the first is my much watched all time favourite film, and now I wish I’d never seen the sequel, it’s so disappointing!! I got home and watched the first one again to banish the memory. A wasted opportunity
I would say that it's actually BECAUSE I enjoy the original so much that this one just has no pull for me. You mentioned CGI, but that first movie used it just in a few places (crowd at the Colosseum and the tigers here and there) where necessary but otherwise had a ton of real people running around real sets. The trailer for this sequel feels like every shot has CGI in it. The bigger, crazier fights just smack of stacked on CGI. EDIT: And big sandals to fill? Crowe was good, but Joaquin Phoenix's Commodus was a top tier villain. Every scene he was in was riveting. I don't think Caligula Light X2 would be able to hold a candle to him.
Sometimes it's okay to just let a great movie be a great movie and move on. I'll pass on this sequel.
My foggy memory recalls Russell Crowe's self-pronouncement of who he is.....and the softball dream ending....and yes inconsistent CGI.....so we'll have to dig back....but on the surface, if I had to blindly choose between Gladiator II & the pseudo-live action Lion King....well...foregone conclusion; lol....
This is The Matrix Resurrections playbook, but not that bad.
Like you guys being surprised that so many people like the original Gladiator movie… I thought the 2000 film was universally beloved until I read the comments section here lol
The comments section here is a bubble. Outside this bubble Gladiator is universally loved.
Sad to hear that pedro was stuck in a boring part :/ he is so good and i hate seeking him be underutilized.
I love the first gladiator but I’m not excited for this. I’m curious but that runtime doesn’t make me want to watch it asap.
It had as much substance as Deadpool 3. Which means it will probably do good in the BO.
Unfortunately, this was the secret movie at the AMC Screen Unseen last night. Usually, that is for smaller films to generate word of mouth. Is it possible that this is expected to not do well, given this placement?
I thought about walking over to Anora again, and I wish I had. I really didn't like it. I was bored from about 10 minutes. Utterly unnecessary, and not entertaining or exciting at all. The performances were all fine to good, especially Denzel and Joseph Quinn, but to what end? Mescal is fine. So much better in Aftersun and Strangers, but he's definitely got star power. I will be happy to see him in better projects later.
It's interesting how these last few Scott films could have been so much better had he just fully embraced camp instead of merely flirting with it. Napoleon was not quite silly enough to be fun. Same for Gucci.
Did you hear about the Roman?
Time and again I hear people bringing up the "CGI tigers", but those tigers used in the first film were real. Did people see a different movie?
Paul Mescal = Russell Crowe at home
You are so wrong on this film. It is magnificent!
As much as I liked Denzel's performance, I am annoyed by the Hollywood idea that North Africans and black Africans are interchangeable.
Preach! Macrinus should have looked more like Pedro Pascal.
@arpitakodagu9854 To be fair, there should also have been fewer blond Romans. If we don't like seeing blacks playing berbers, it's only fair for us to object to Englishmen playing ancient Italians as well.
Denzel was amazing
Right? Such a fun performance.
To be fair, 1/5 of the Romans were called Lucius. Those who weren't Marcus, Gaius or any of the 9 other prenames.
The question is: who would have been his legal father, because then he would be Lucius Something, which would properly identify him.
This is a "no thanks" to me. But I'll eventually check it up on tv...
Is worth seeing in theaters?
I'm quite annoy that Spencer Treat Clark is not in the film and for that silly reason, I'm just not interested in seeing it. Lol
I don't buy Christy's 3 out of 4 stars. Nothing in her review sounded like that's where her rating was going.
Ridley Scott always bores me. Lots of surface spectacle and noise and an empty core. Why would one expect something different? Sound and fury signifying nothing....
The only thing I truly loved about the first movie was the epic scenery chewing by Oliver Reed and Richard Harris. Late stage alcoholism never again spun such cinematic gold!
The rest of the movie was about killing off sissies and elevating mute "real men" to sainthood.
Killing off Sissies. Really. I think there was a little more to it than that.
@@crakatoot5480 True, it's also about avenging the death of your hot mute wife and child.
@@nikosvault exactly.
Yes, I really enjoyed Gladiator. But it wasn't worthy of best picture. I can't wait to see Gladiator II.
I disagree. 😅
Hollywood was founded on meritocracy as we all know, just like our politicians etc
They didn’t have cgi tigers in the first one
Yeah; I feel like over the years these two don’t like most things. They are rarely entertained.
You’re welcome to take a look around our channel at the many, many films we’ve liked lately, including Anora, Blitz, Juror #2 and Christmas Eve at Miller’s Point.
I find harping on CG in a movie to be small potatoes.
It all becomes outdated eventually unless it’s an Avatar movie.
Watched some LotR clips the other day and Smeagle looks downright amateur compared to what we have today.
If the movie and story is good I can deal with some cartoony animals.
Gladiator movies are to Ancient Roman history what the Thor movies are to Scandinavian mythology.
Why? Do we need another Gladiator? Lets get creative. 4.5
I understand why you don’t like this movie. But I loved it. I loved the characters and of course the artistic elements that one takes for granted from Ridley Scott
I’ll admit the story has contrived elements and hits the same beats of the first movie. But I like what it tried to do which was showing another side to some one who you think is a bad guy but is decent. And you think Denzel is a good guy but we see he’s playing every one. I liked its themes of political deception and as a fantasy film it’s a nice story of a little guy fighting to restore justice for a free and just Rome hit the right spot for me. I’m opening my self of to trolls and I don’t want to get too political but In light of the current election witch upsets me this was the fantasy I needed to be in. I also like the fact that there is a big nutty studio movie in an arrow where we had more diversity on the big screen. I probably wouldn’t like this movie. But we’re at risk of losing cinema to comic book movies. I like the sincerity of emotions I like movies that make me feel things and it’s really not hard. Also every Ridley Scott film these days is a gem he’s and Gorge Miller are the last directors to understand the cinematic language of Kurosawa. Mabey I’m dumb because I also like
Joker: Folie à Deux
a better title would've been GLADIATORS
Or 2 Gladiators
My question is “why?”. Like why even do this? The first one was huge, I get it, but it was a self contained movie that didn’t set up a sequel. I guess the studios are just addicted to this sequel/prequel/recognizable IP thing. They are like heroin addicts at this point.
I liked the original, but Ripley can't make a good movie anymore. He hasn't made a great movie in a decade. Napolean could have been special, the PERFECT 10 part streaming series to end his career in style, but he showed why he should have retired from directing in 2015. He's too old, too stuck in his ways and too derivative to make anything special. He also sucks at making non-fiction History dramas, he's never made a good one. The Martian was his best film over the last 10 years and The Last Duel was good, but not great.
“He can’t make a good movie anymore” lists a good movie made in the last 3 years
0:08 Christy, you're so raunchy!
Shadows and dust breakfast all day!!!
Gladiator 2 is like Avengers Movie.
And Denzel Washington is good but not excellent.
A classic movie never needs a sequel.
Remember the first battle on Gladiator and see in initial battle of this one . Compare .
The genius Ridley Scot lost his touch .
No problem , he s human.
The original gladiator was machismo the movie. 😂🤣 But I'm love it!!!
What's wrong with that?
@@Peer165 Absolutely nothing 👍
Whatever David Scarpa attempts to write next, I am skipping it. Stop it, David, please.
Was insane seeing the dude bros come after you for not loving the original Gladiator, why are ppl so sensitive esp about things that in the grand scheme of things don't fundamentally matter?!
It means a lot to them, most men fantasize about being maximus
People feel strongly about the stuff they love! 300 prompted similar passionate responses.
@@Pswayze23 - But ironically the only reason Maximus worked as a lead character, was because he was romantic and tragic. Meaning, his more sensitive and feminine personality traits.
@@BreakfastAllDay, I'm assuming the same passionate responses are for the Pacino version of Scarface, among other films.
Your review is full of spoilers? Why are you both giving the story away?