I haven't finished the video but I, a woman, can say that I've learned more from you than most people. I didn't even know men had legit issues until you, Roma. My mom taught me all women's issues come from men and that toxic women are the fault of men and that I should be afraid of all men. I've learned to be more sympathetic to men and to not generalize them and to also be better for future relationships. I've stopped being afraid of half the human race because of your videos. I've learned to look at myself and not be so double-minded toward men. I've learned to be a better person to both men and women from you, Roma. If that's internalized misogyny... Then the very first true feminists were the most misogynistic people EVER because that's what they were like.
I thank you entirely just for you being you but what you said is not only true but terrifying. Especially in the beginning “I didn’t even know men had ‘legit’ issues until you, Roma.” I bet a lot of women would be saying this…..
Thats good and i will help in my world its almost the oppisite yea i was brought up slight like the macho man attitude but threw it away for true strength also my mental abuse and even some physical abuse have come primarily from women
And that said i know not all woman are toxic of blindly following everything they are taught as i have friends both genders so are homosexual and some even have trans people in their lives and to me it means nothing i see people not labels
Girl I am glad you have come to understand Romo is a superhero cast without a cape she has someone that many of us look up to I've nothing against the first feminists they just wanted things to be a little bit more equal without being put down so much or saying they can't do certain things because they are women that's just wrong
She's not wrong tho... the girl was just mad... Roma has several porn videos that we all watched... and she has been in an off and on relationship with Caleb for years... she then becomes a stream line mens rights activist, while raising her kids, "finding herself," and figuring out how to change her alternative narrative to be "accepting" of forms of toxic masculinity and femininity. I love roma... but she clearly suffers from severe misogynist daddy issues. I mean why do you think she strives to be a mother and try to protect men lmao... she is y'alls queen and you won't ever see it any other way. Unless you prove me wrong somehow and show me she isn't all those things from the steaming piles of red flags she eminates sure... she is a positive influence on the internet. But otherwise like most ppl her character is explainable by her trauma... good for her 👏.
If feminism includes men, then Chloe is more of a feminist than she is. The fact she claims calls you a "pickme/pikmi" and that Chloe is hurting men shows what kind of feminists she actually is, which by her claim of what feminism includes, she herself would not be.
I’m a woman and I can admit that when I first read “Men’s Rights”, I was like “wtf!? Who is this girl and what’s wrong with her!?” And then I listened. And my eyes have been opened. So, thank you.
@@cromaxthedarkangelglumiith5659 I’m older so I hadn’t noticed this trend and it’s definitely disturbing. It’s not what feminism started out as, that’s for damn sure.
The better question you should ask yourself is more, “ Why is your answer immediately to men’s rights, wtf!?” When I’m sure if it was titled, “women’s rights.” I’m sure that wouldn’t even have been in your vocabulary. This just enlightens more on the very problems Roma is discussing here. Why the lack of equality? That’s a question we all need to be better asking ourselves. Why are we merely judging all men based on one or two’s actions. Women get highly upset when being judged by another previous women’s actions. Why should we likewise then do the same to men? This foreboding characterization of men as evil, heartless, emotionless, cruel, non caring about us is not true over the broad spectrum. And, just as Roma points out is clearly a indecent act to single out an entire gender as evil. When you don’t even know the person at all period. Acting like every man is a pedo, or rapist, or murderer is just unhinged, and in finality insensible.
Yep, that's the main problem. Human instinct is more often than not "spear first, ask questions later." Should we judge people who react based on a books cover? Only if they didn't read the back. So, thanks for having an open mind and being willing to hear what others have to say. Sadly the same can't be said for most. Sorry for writing so much, my ADHD meds make me write more when before I'd have single word responses.
She has a Patreon and only fans where she has her tits out and dick in her mouth.. so ... Don't always believe what you see. Just saying.. she's in it for the money, not for the "values". That's why she goes after Pearl, who doesn't have to do that to make a living and support both men and women
In the 21st century only a woman could. Any man who tried to stand up for himself or his gender would immediately be banned from the internet, itself, in a matter of hours. There would be hundreds of millions of people calling for his execution.
@@charaznable6597 Are you serious about that? Why give her money for merely telling you what you want to hear? She tells nothing new. Simping is destructive to the simps. Stay away from her. I am here only to save idiots.
Please Chloe make a reaction about this loser incel white x skin pale male, im 50 And not like this loser, the difference im mgtow and he is an incel loser no real man, real Man have self control....ua-cam.com/video/ssdtquCiruc/v-deo.html
As a woman, I personally found comfort from your videos. I started feeling like the way people around me talk about men was just gross and wrong. I found you and realized, I was right! Men can be terrible, but so can women. And sometimes people just tend to date like 5 guys that were gross. Alot of people I am around say "I hate men" when they hear something bad about a guy, but then when they hear something bad about a girl it's "Ugh, I hate people sometimes."
@@cromaxthedarkangelglumiith5659 Thas what I try to tell people. I say "I just hate people." Although it's not true all the time. Everyone has bad qualities, the difference is when people take them to the next level and don't care about others feelings
@@ViolexiaTnT im not racist. I hate everyone. Its always my response. Do you hate me? Do I know you? No. Then yes, I hate you. If you are lucky I might get to know you and hate you less.
@@cromaxthedarkangelglumiith5659 Oh really? I will have to check them out, I fully enjoy Roma and love to hear some of my own mindset be put out, but in a more thoughtful manner
@@winchestersons6258 Eggzactly. Love our friends, they can annoy you but you still care about them. I'd help a stranger, be nice, but I just don't like my fellow humans this Earth. They have to show that they are actually compassionate
That’s because hating men is acceptable but hating women is not. Also, when PEOPLE posses toxic traits, it’s ok to attribute those to their gender if they are male, because negative traits are inherently associated with being male. However, if the person with the toxic traits is female, then those traits are a result of some external factor that caused her to behave in that way.
Nah she's generalises when she talks about women. If she just said, this is a minority of women not the majority then there wouldnt be a problem. She also never calls out men, that minority of men that are complete aholes
Let’s be honest. It was this lady’s responsibility to call out somebody trying to advocate for men. Listen you’re the only woman I’ve found that really understands men. I know that social justice bimbo really doesn’t.
"Real Feminism" EVERY time I hear that from a feminist I KNOW they're about to start spewing bullshit. Feminism is not about elevating women by raising the ceiling for women, but lowering the ceiling for men so that men cant rise high enough to even match women's current ceiling. It infantalizes women by blaming men for all of their problems, and caricature's all men as being guilty of every sin a man has ever committed, and even some that they didn't. Feminism's actions do not match their words, which means they are either a liar, or a hypocrite, or both. Not going to respect the opinion of toxic lying hypocrites.
Yeah, some of those so-called "Real Feminists" who are guilty of blaming men for every problem in the universe, including their own problems, have no clue of what OG feminism truly is and that it breaks down the oppression of Both Men and Women
Absolutely. Most who claim to be feminists today, aren't feminists. They're man-hating little girls who have been coddled their entire lives and told that they're victims cuz of "patriarchy". The early feminists didn't teach the new age that equality also comes with equal accountability... So many young women don't know what it's like to be held accountable because they can blame it on men, or their hormones or really anything other than themselves.
I am a 35 year old woman who loves your content. I’ve never felt offended, trivialized, put down, or anything of the sort from any of your videos that I’ve seen. I follow you regularly, and I find you to be equally as kind towards women as you are towards men. I have a 6 year old son and an amazing husband. I was raised by my mom and dad, and my dad was equally as present in my life as my mom. I couldn’t have asked for a better dad, as he was loving, gentle, incredibly intelligent, taught me so much, and propped me up with enough confidence to pursue a career in physics, which is still made up of a a larger percentage of men. He’s everything a father should be. Which is why I am very sensitive to feminists that put down men. I won’t stand for it. I stand up for men when I encounter those situations personally, but I don’t have the personality to advocate for men the way you do. I love your lighthearted content as much as the serious and emotional content. I can relate to you in a lot of ways, which is a result of your vulnerability on camera. You’re transparent and don’t shy away from the tough subjects. Thank you for standing up for men, and for having the courage to stand up for yourself to the extremist-type feminists. I hope you know that there are many women who appreciate and back you as much as your male ‘army’ does! Keep it up, and thank you! 😊💕
Also, I appreciate how you never put anyone down personally when you do rebuttal videos. You even paid her a compliment. The way you handled Think Before You Sleep’s video was fantastic.
@@cromaxthedarkangelglumiith5659 sometimes it’s offensive how a lot of influencers put down men just on the basis that they’re men. It’s refreshing to see men and women being talked about as equals. Women bash “the patriarchy”, and men in general, relentlessly.
Very well stated.. and right there with you Anne. It makes me wonder 💭 if some of this isn’t those whom had a poor male role model or just poor experiences in life taking out their garbage on the other gender? I say this simply because as you I have an amazing dad who did exactly the same. And I harbor no resentment against men, and I totally 💯 have seen where Roma is coming from on a personal level. So many anymore are simply just ugly to men to the point many are even committing suicide etc. Its just so out of hand. Generalizing an entire gender based on a few bad eggs is just wrong. Regardless. There’s good women there’s good men. But to cross the street rather than pass a man simply because all men are rapists ..? No that’s horrible ideologically. Not all men are predators. I just have seen it all everything she says. And it really is ugly how a great portion. Not all. But the majority of women anymore do treat men like second class citizens. It’s sad really.
The only "including men" ive ever seen in feminism is "men need to get out of the way and advocate for women to replace them. Men should cry more, but dont expect women to do the emotional labor of caring about what youre crying about". If you want a social philosophy that really includes everyone, try egalitarianism. Feminism is about woman supremecy. Also, nose ring girl needs to learn that criticising certain behaviors of toxic women (and rightly so) is neither "internalized misoginy" (stupid dismissive feminist buzzword), nor is it "tearing down women". People are individuals; not gender monoliths
Oh please. Your saying how Gabi is wrong in calling Chloe, a men's rights activist, a misogynist. But goddamn, your doing the same thing by calling all feminists women supremacists. Do you see the irony? LOL
@@yourstruly_shriya2366 pretty sure he means modern feminism, which is what his description fits. And while classic feminism is a good thing, it and the word have been co-opted by bad people. And it's more common to find a modern feminist than a classic one. One of the reasons the word feminism needs to die and be replaced with something less...divisive or confusing in my opinion.
@@vrokar1 Eh correction. Its pseudo feminism, not modern feminism. Modern feminism just includes modern day red flag stuff men do and vice versa. Modern feminism never rejected the principles of classic feminism. In that case, how can modern feminism be about woman supremacy when the classic one wasn't? This pisses me off SO MUCH. Everyone just calls pseudo feminism as modern day feminism and that's not true. Call me sensitive, but I really don't like how some people put pseudos and actual modern day feminists in the same spectrum. Like wow.
Thanks to you....I finally have to courage to take my ex to court for divorce, alimony (she stole THOUSANDS from me our last 1.5 years together, but I'll get into that another time), and go after her for the emotional damage to my son and I. I finally have the courage to stand up for myself to not only my ex, but to anyone downing on emotionally broken men. Your advocacy for men's rights is amazing and thank you so much for all you do!!!!
Gabi, like most rabid 3rd wavers, get highly triggered when you reveal you're not a member of the sisterhood. It's truly one of my favorite things about not being a feminist. Can a 43 year old woman be a pick me? Apparently. When I'm not being accused of being a Russian troll bot, I'm being accused of being a pick me for not hating men. This timeline is wild.
Welcome to the wonderful world of terminally online people my dude. It’s both hilarious and depressing in equal doses with people like Gabi. As a fella about half your age I’ve had to put up with chicks like that on the dating scene.
@The Emperor Of Mankind , Negahban Bozorg Don’t sweat it boss, Cawl is working on woman 2.0 so this problem should end soon. And if he fails, there is a brash young apothecary named Bile doing great work on improving the species.
Same generation and it’s insane how badly off the rails next wave feminism went. Feminism lived long enough that it went from hero (right to vote, etc) to becoming the villain (misandry under a different name)
@The Emperor Of Mankind , Negahban Bozorg Nope, not gonna call you a pick me. Not gonna take shots at a young person who’s hurting. I have a son around your age and I know it can be a rough time. What I will do is strongly recommend a book and make a few suggestions. The book is *12 Rules for Life* by Jordan Peterson. There is a sequel, but let’s start there. Read the book, and try your best every day to implement what you read. The suggestions are also simple. If you can, see a therapist to help you with these dark thoughts. Everyone has them, and talking helps. If that’s not possible- confide in your friends because You can be darn sure they are probable having similar thoughts. And importantly you need to understand that things will get better. You have contributions to make and people who love you. You will get through this.
Yass👏🏻 I've been ridiculed for advocating prodometly for men but also for women as well but women can't get over the fact that I advocate for men in general.
Kinda like the fact that feminism can consistently insult men and blaming them for everything... But when Chloe says something against feminists it's always so "disrespectful" and some other shits
“That’s why they usually claim “internalized misogyny.” It’s a way to place blame on something, some boogeyman, for why Roma supposedly disagrees seemingly at a woman’s expense. They always sound like damn drones when they use that term. It has no backing/credibility anywhere, it’s simply a thing that got so popular amongst feminist/victim circles that they now accept it as fact…
She didn’t even explain why you’re bad. Just said “Roma bad she do the bad and me no like her” but didn’t provide anything close to proof of her claims
Turning more people against men ? Like women on the internet need any push to do that . Men get openly slandered every moment of the day with little to no push back . A lot of the time women are encouraged to do so and rewarded with internet clout .
Some of us push back. Hell, I push back in public. This one feminist got me so raging, just with how she approached me on a level of disrespect, I absolutely hammered that point of principle into everyone’s heads around me and 15 minutes later she was bringing me an apology joint trying to clear the air. I made it about principle, and the crowd took my side. I was so brutal, and overly vocal in my assessment of her future and current situation that she didn’t stick around afterwards either, despite multiple people extending the offer.
"Mah internalized misogyny!" I hate terms like that because they're clunky and don't make the most sense. Seems more hyperbolic than anything; a major exaggeration, and attempt to sound more intelligent and call someone something very ugly in the process. I think the more appropriate term for these frequently false allegations would be 'low gender esteem.' Just because a person doesn't have great respect or admiration for their ilk doesn't mean that they hate or oppress their own kind. And when listening to the often fair criticisms that aren't well liked by said community - because narcism - I see absolutely no justification in using harsher terms to address those people. Simply put, Chloe's view is period accurate, which makes high gender esteem extremely difficult for any intellectually honest member of the community, and it's completely unfair to describe her as any form of misogynist - as a female herself - just because she [appropriately] criticizes women. It's this kind of popular political idiocy that prompts more and more women to walk away from the third wave of feminism, in favor of egalitarianism instead. However, egalitarianism is always the way forward when communities need to be depolarized.
I am not even a feminist because it's just too much drama. I subscribed to you because u seem not to dramatic and overall logical about what you're saying and I agree with a lot of it. I am not able to differentiate between feminism and not feminism here but I just want all to be kind to one another. Be kind and we wouldn't even have to talk about most things feminism speaks about. Wish u all a wonderful day/night! God bless u
@@Kahn101 they exist...in other countries...but no one talks about India or arabic speaking countries (luckily in some bigger cities it seems more equal for both sexes). Or any other where girls are literally killed because they are seen as useless for the families. The western countries have a paradise for women in comparison to others.
@@maddog7999 nah, God says to love him first and then thy neighbor. If humans would act like it no one would have these problems. It's not even that hard but humans love to fight apparently.
This account has helped me more than I can ever explain like 👀 almost seems like people trying to swat it down are just jealous in the most sincere way
Translation: Chloe isn’t following the narrative, so is therefore divisive. >_> The one thing feminists can’t stand more than men is women who don’t tow the line
So many women tear themselves down and then try to ignore it. You're just out here bringing the toxicity into the light. And in a very balanced, honest and fair way, I might add. You just call out the toxicity, regardless of what side it's on.
I'm a man, I just needed an outlet for my thoughts and this seems like the best place to put it... As a 7 year old I learned to drive a farm tractor (reaching for the pedals was hard XD), I was told that "this is a man's job" so you have to learn it. I was scared at first but afterwards I was proud of it, and I literally told my mom that "women can't drive farm tractors", she quickly proved me wrong and she immediately gained more respect in my view. Why did I think that though was because I never saw her drive before, she also literally told me "it's a man's job"... I was still proud of what I learned, and I gained more respect for my mom. Then school started and I got bullied for the next 9 years, mostly by other guys but there were a few girls too. I had trouble developing any social skills (I may be on the autism spectrum, never diagnosed), I preferred to be alone and didn't have any friends. Later on a high-school all the girls in my classroom were disgusted of me and they would let me know it too, I stopped talking to girls and women after that. Though I don't know if I can really blame them, I was miserable all the time in school and I developed a collection of unfavorable behaviours like picking my nose and pulling my hair. College was completely different, different people and no more bullying, I had no idea how to handle it so I didn't speak to anyone unless I absolutely had to. My mom and dad were arguing about something one day. I don't remember what it was... I remember my mom telling me that the "Man is the head of the family but the woman is the neck and controls where the head turns". I remember feeling disgusted and my relationship with my mom took a serious hit. Did that mean that the man is just a shield for the woman's decisions? It made me very cautious about women in general, can I as a guy trust any woman then? After college I was living home for the next 5-7 years, not knowing what I should be doing with my life, too afraid to meet people, too afraid to do anything in public but the absolute minimum. Video games were, and still are, my escape to somewhere where I feel comfortable having fun. During those years I had a couple of run-ins with karens and radical feminists and my mom started making fun of me to other people, I didn't really have an outlet for these feelings so they kept piling up. I was on a serious path to becoming an incel, though I recognized it and was constantly fighting myself to take my frustration out in other ways. XP Every year I heard and thought to myself "This is the role of a man, go to work, work your butt off, take care of your family and shut up". And if a man fails, they fail the entire family. The pressure is a lot and I couldn't take it, so I didn't even try. I met my wife online, I commented on a picture she drew, we started talking, I had so much to talk about after not talking to nearly anyone for years and she was willing to listen, but I was so nervous and unprepared I started making somewhat inappropriate comments to drive her away (because bullies never left me alone until I made them uncomfortable, I just didn't know how to deal with normal people), to my surprise she laughed and confronted, I was taken aback, we kinda became friends, then I learned she's a girl. She being a girl didn't sway me one way or the other at this point however. Talking to her was the best time of my day, but because of my mental minefield it was also really tough. I got anxious, sad and mad very easily, Her words meant the world to me, or the end of it. I got really mad when she cut me off, I got really sad when she ignored me, I got suicidal when she didn't agree with me. I literally stopped talking to her for weeks at a time multiple times just to prove my point how I felt about something... I'm still trying to understand exactly what I was thinking... At least partially I was overwhelmed, I couldn't cope with someone finally putting up with me. I wanted to be left alone, but I also wanted to be with her and it was really confusing sometimes. It has taken years to untangle my mind and I owe a lot of it to my wife. I'm not 100%, I'll never be, but with each day I re-discover more of myself and how to be a better person, I want to be a better person. Today I have a very bad social anxiety, fear of bonding with people, mild fear of women, mild fear of other ethnicities (before you think I'm a racist, I'm not, just the internet taught me for years to be very cautious), and the internet tells me I'm "privileged" and I'm the reason the world is a miserable place. I appreciate talking about men's issues a lot. That being said, men can have a lot of issues and a lot of pressure, that may manifest itself in a way that is unpleasant or dangerous, so I'd first suggest fellow men to reflect on those and find a release in something that does not hurt anyone, including yourself. Then get help, moping about how the world is unfair to you isn't helpful, even if it may be true, there are things you can do to help yourself to be better towards other people and maybe in return, some of those people will be nicer to you, just pick up the good ones and try to ignore the bad people.
My coping mechanism when I was younger was always music, so when I started to struggle with social situations and women later on in life I bought myself a new piano and started to pick it up again. Between that and buying myself a reasonably priced car I always wanted, those were the best things I have done for myself, likely ever. I too struggled socially when I was younger, and preferred to be alone, when I was 16 they tried to diagnose me as on the spectrum (Aspergers), but I refused to let them close those doors on me. I learned my social skills by throwing myself through the meat grinder of dating and post high school debauchery. Led to a lot of bad situations arising, but I’ve grown confident in myself throughout the years after I learned how to take the lead and handle them. Mindset is a powerful thing, and it can definitely take a hit for those younger men on the spectrum and in relationships. Might be time to set up a space for resources for those men, they’re all being failed by their families, and society. There’s no reason we should have to let them fail too, having gone through somewhat similar things and thought patterns leads me to believe others may have similar experiences to ours, and as such, we have the resources and knowledge needed to help them. I just wish the feminist sphere would stop trying to destroy everything positive that men build for themselves.
I agree with both of the comments you guys left, music is definitely my way out of a bad mindstate specifically Nu Metal or Eminem. Hell i'm currently listening to a Nu Metal/Rapcore Album right now since i'm kinda feeling down at the moment life can definitely be shit i currently have no idea where to start to make my life better and the way how ugly society itself is looking even more day by day with this gender war bullshit and how people are literally killing each other it makes me wanna stay indoors even more like why can't everyone be in peace? I'm not gonna lie and say i'm a saint because i've been surpressing my dark side myself and its actually horrifying i almost turned into someone i didn't recognize due to traumatic experiences so i'm trying to keep a clear head and being suicidal doesn't help but i'm trying everyday to survive and not do anything i regret because i really don't wanna be a bad person my parents didn't raise me to become another problem in society i'm just glad i still got a little bit of love in my heart left preventing me from being a prick despite the fact i can't catch a break and practically miserable these days, whenever i get bad thoughts i always try to remember the good i did in my life to others like that time when i was at the exams and this guy that was in my class didn't have anything to eat for lunch and i gave him some of the food i was eating because i knew exactly how it feels to be hungry plus doing exams you need to be able to think while concentrating so how could anyone think on an empty stomach? After we was done eating we both went to the gas station and he told me to take up whatever drink i wanted he'd pay for it, we ended up talking all day during lunch before we had to go back to do the rest of exams. at that moment when he bought me that drink i understood the true meaning of "if you be good to others they will be good to you" that memory alone of me helping out my classmate stops me from becoming a cold hearted prick filled with meaningless hate no matter how much times people treat me like shit nowadays. With that being said i hope you guys find happiness in life i can tell you guys are cool people definitely the kinda peeps i'd chill with IRL i just wish the entire world was like that with no violence but unfortunately that is too much to ask it seems with the way things are
@@chadgrimes252 there’s a song I want you to check out, it’s a much slower one. Likely not up your alley by any past means, but it definitely has source material in it that might touch you like it did me. Look up: Julia Brennan - Inner Demons. We all got demons and monsters within. I’ve seen mine try to surface a few times. It’s only ever come out in full blown force once or twice, and the sheer ruthlessnesses, and emotionlessness I found myself capable of genuinely frightened me. Self preservation is a hell of a thing. Nowadays, I’m in control, it’s been years since I’ve had any major issues with my inner demons trying to come to light. I’m also happily married to a wonderful traditional woman. So I lucked way out compared to a lot of my fellow guys. Doesn’t mean I’ve given up on you all though, far from it. I’m trying to force change by leading via example, and being very vocal about it. Can’t convert a hoe to a housewife, but you can scare the hoe out of em with statistics and facts so there ain’t nothing but a housewife left.
@@bleachstain9785 Hey i just listened to the song you recommended it was absolutely beautiful and relatable at the same time, its definitely a great song so its up my alley i listen to all kinds of music its just that Metal and Rap (only good rap not the mumble garbage) is my main two favourite genres that's all i'm not like most people that stick to one genre i like to expand by listening to other genres too and i'm from the caribbean so mostly reggae plays over here i love listening to that too but i'm pretty sure i'm the only guy in my neighbourhood that listens to Metal lol, back to the topic tho i'm so glad to hear you have a loyal loving wife that is the one thing many of us guys wish to have someday i seen a few comments of guys in their 40's or 30's still alone and gave up on life an its truly depressing i been thinking that's probably my fate too but time will tell i'm just 22 turning 23 in December so my life isn't at that point yet although i'm still in a depressed mindstate trying to survive each day i had to remind myself constantly that not everyone in the world is out to get me because its been a few times people tried to use me specifically the worst type of hoes luckily i can now tell the difference between a hoe and an actual woman compared to how nueve i was when i was younger i had to learn it the hard way, hopefully everyone that feels empty will become the best version of themselves and for me lately i was kinda wanting to be cold hearted with no emotions so that i won't be able to feel pain or be hurt by "love" in case things go south then the amount of times i'm asleep with me having repeated dreams of me being in a happy relationship with a woman that actually loves me kept reoccuring in different scenarios whenever i woke up i felt so annoyed because it genuinely felt like my own brain was messing with me poking at me about something i may never have, now i look at it differently that maybe the dreams was a sign that if i go down the dark path i'll never truly be happy. Also one peaceful song deserves another well its more than one just type in "Scriptures Riddim Don Corleon" on youtube there is a video 20 minutes long with several different songs to the same rhythm basically, its caribbean songs and pretty relaxing too i think you'll dig it
There may be one thing you said I don't agree with. But that's with everyone. No one is going to agree on the same issues. But I do agree with many of your videos. I had very toxic friends who loved playing with dudes feelings like my ex best friend who always told me to cheat on him. I know now she was jealous because we love each other and I'm still with the dude since 2008 .
Young lady you are truly one of my favorite heroes ..... I've never met a woman who would be willing to stand up for men and try to understand things from their POV .....thank you for just being you.
Definitely one of my favorite people on here. I love what you do and how you support everyone including men. I myself have been wrongfully accused of being a “horrible” person who supports the patriarchy, I know firsthand how it fucks people over and how standing up for those who don’t fall in between those lines get shat on. But I’m a bad person because I’m a man a white man no less
"In your attempt to advocate for men, you're tearing down women." No, she's tearing down misandrists, not all women. She is an advocate for men and women. She calls out cases when "feminism" isn't actually standing for men, which is way too often. I could go on and on about how utterly ridiculous and misinformed Gabi's argument is, but I don't want to waste the effort. It does make me laugh that, when people don't like the truth, they'll make baseless claims when attempting to discredit it. Keep on fighting the good fight, Roma! Gabi, watch more of her videos before you come to poor conclusions like this again because the issues Roma addresses are crucial and aren't talked about nearly enough. Peace!
Egalitarian. The word you’re looking for is egalitarian. It means you seek equality. Feminism is specific to the feminine, not necessarily women. And feminism is entirely self-serving. It is more than happy to keep the parts of its “patriarchy” that benefit it, while discarding the bits that benefit men in any way.
Man oh man, did she ever get you wrong! Since I started following you, there has been no generalisation of either men’s or women’s behaviour. * Have you generalised? No. * Have you called out individuals? Yes. * Have you explained why and offered an alternative view? Yes. * Have you, in my opinion, said anything to widen the divide between men and women? No. I wouldn’t follow a hypocrite. Keep doing you Chloe ✊🏻
Generalizing is an important part of thinking. Not to generalize is not to think. The question is whether one can do it accurately. If most feminists are bad, then we can generalize and say Feminism is bad, or has failed, or was only good in theory, etc.
@@gwynnapnudd702 For your hypothesis to work, you would first need to know how many feminists there are. You would then need to define what constitutes being either a good or bad feminist, then judge each one by that definition. Good luck with that.
@@steveblog1 Well as Aristotle said, never demand more precision from a subject than the subject itself affords. Literature isn't mathematics for example. Since I can't do what you said, therefore nothing can be said about Feminism - or countless other important subjects? C'mon maan! Learn to generalize. In regards to the subject at hand: Do you think Feminism is working? Ever talk to a Communist? It's always "Real Communism hasn't been tried". In other words, it doesn't work in the real world, or the world as it is.
@@gwynnapnudd702 If you generalise, you allow your argument to be shot down because generalisation in of itself is inaccurate. Is feminism working? I don’t know, you should ask a feminist. Is it working for all feminists? Is it working for some? Communism? In general, it’s a noble principle. However (and here’s the caveat), the principle only works if those running the show aren’t able to profit from it. Like any “good idea”, if it can be corrupted by individuals or groups, then it has already failed. That’s all I’m saying in the matter. I have my opinion and you have yours. They differ, that’s life.
@@steveblog1 Yeah one person says gravity is real. The other doesn't. Equally good opinions. A Democracy is born. Generalization is as fundamental as gravity. For example, if every time our ancestors came near a saber tooth tiger, it was a completely new experience, we wouldn't be here. But no: they generalized their experiences into the concept of the Cat, with the inner warning of Bad/Dangerous. What if you got hit by a car but said to yourself, that was just a one time thing. It says nothing about cars in general being dangerous. You wouldn't be long for this world. A generalization is a concept. To be against them is to be against thinking at all.
Quit giving these idiots your time, especially more than once, they are not worth it. Love you and your content. Keep it coming, you are helping more people than you realize.
I'm just going to speak for me. Thank you. I'll be the first to admit I haven't got it right after 2 long term relationships and a marriage, but I'm slowly learning that it wasn't all my fault when it's basically 50/50. You have my utmost admiration and respect.
Here's the thing and what I appreciate the most about your videos. Many times, when sharing stories or showing videos it's not just a wake up call for women to stop and or show what a lot us men have experienced on a daily. But also shows us men weren't not the only ones experiencing this, that it's not normal and it is in fact abuse. The same thing happens when videos or stories of women are being abused. I genuinely believe a lot of us men who watch these videos agree that all abuse no matter the gender is bullshit and should stop. Why would we want someone to experience the same hardship, abuse and experiences we've had. Doesn't makes sense.
Hell yeah! You go Chloe! Love your stuff and keep being woke and awesome for the peeps who don’t feel like we can talk about stuff like this. It makes me feels so nice that someone like you cares. Thank you so much for making me feel more comfortable in my own skin.
*This is what Gynocentrism looks like.* Just advocating for men's gender issues is treated some how an antithesis to feminism for some reason? See what she is upset about is that the necessity for this community goes against her internal narrative that Feminism is an all encompassing movement for gendered issues. So she is acting like YOU are dividing the genders. Not the people she agrees are toxic with the "kill men" posts. But we needed this space to talk about our issues without feminist victim blaming us with "the patriarchy caused this so it is your fault. Men need to fix it." Like if we had any power about it. Also we ARE trying to do something by bringing it up. Like this one, feminist often acted like we we are some how being deflective of female issues or trying to steal the spot light. Because we simply brought up our gender's issues in it's own bubble. But they still are unable to see why we needed our own space. Feminism not only has a long history of keeping men's voices out the gender issues conversation. They constantly are creating these fictional mentalities they swear men have. But it is just the most ungenerous interpretation of why we do anything, including why are we doing suicide. So excuse us for assuming you don't not care to hear about our lived in experiences. Feminists, not saying you movement isn't necessary for real female issues. But stop acting like men are included. Be honest, outside of tokenizing us in superficial ways. Like mentioning guys might like flowers too or rare occasions of considering us in conversations of body positivity. When have you ever seen feminists talk about men's more serious issues? (Without trying to spin it as another way we are just hurting ourselves.) You say feminist issues are human issues. But you also say men's issues are their own doing. So we created our own space and you hate us because you convinced yourself that all sexism will be solved of we just continue to only focus on your issues. She upset of the idea that men can be victims on a grand social scale, that women are not naturally innocent, that all gendered issues is not going to be solved by a female backed movement alone like prophecies in her head. She hates that gendered issues can have more angles outside a feminist prospective. Fucking typical, arrogant, and patronizing gynocentrism shit.
What she's saying is bullsh*t!! In no way have you made a division between men and women nor have you been against women. You have been against what men and women have been doing wrong against one another and shedding light to subjects in that matter that are being overlooked because let's be honest, women have been doing a lot of messed up things to men nowadays because of the bs they hear other women telling them is ok. I'm so glad you're doing what you're doing! I didn't know feminism had brainwashed so many women until I seen your videos and I have been apauled at what most of them think is an ok way to treat a man. They need to realize that somebody needs to stand up for these men who are being done wrong because of their gender. Nobody should be done that way! Thank you Roma for advocating for men, they really need help against the sick feminist but also thanks for calling out in general those who are doing wrong to others. You are very appreciated!
True feminism IS inclusive of men. I never liked how Chloe used the word feminists to refer to women with absolutely 0 feminist motives. BUT I DON'T think Chloe has any internalized misogyny though. Calling out women who are baby trappers, gold diggers, manipulators, or who body shame men is NOT hating on women. That creator seems to put all women on the same category of innocent sweet angels and makes it sound like calling out a woman who does something wrong to men is actually Chloe being misogynistic and rude towards _all_ women, which is just bs.
That’s why they usually claim “internalized misogyny.” It’s a way to place blame on something, some boogeyman, for why Roma supposedly disagrees seemingly at a woman’s expense. They always sound like damn drones when they use that term. It has no backing/credibility anywhere, it’s simply a thing that got so popular amongst feminist/victim circles that they now accept it as fact… Do you really think the woman in the video is that smart? Or has much empathy? She really thinks she did something using that term because she was triggered. Kids need to stop watching this crap thinking anyone knows wtf they’re talking about and learn that many adults are just as dumb if not dumber than them (except younger people have an excuse).
@@soundwavesuperior6761 By true feminism I meant something that while putting spotlight on women's issues, doesn't hate on men, something that doesn't expect men to fulfill unreasonable demands and doesn't body shame men which is what a lot of the so called feminist tiktokers(=pseudo feminists) in Roma's vids were doing. I hope I cleared that up for you? Sweetie, when we say we support the true form of an ideology it doesn't mean we are following the archaic medieval equivalent of it, it just means that we don't support those people who in the name of following a certain ideology, cater to their own selfish interests by manipulating it and create new branches out of it that is in no way what the truest form of the ideology supports.
She's def hateful and most likely jealous as a man I appreciate you cause you def hit the nail on the head 💯 Roma def is a chill person and she prob didn't deserve a response
I started watching on TT and converted to YT you are the best advocate for equal rights I have ever come across. You always mention the toxicness of all genders but predominately talk on behalf of men. If certain people take offence to real issues then maybe they need to be offended.
In my line of work of clinical counselling (yes I spelt it with two L's I'm Australian we're weird like that), overgeneralising is a problem with unhelpful thoughts. We can never generalise an individual, That is a path of making people "Ghosts in the machine". No this is not a manga comic or cartoon, it was a phrase coined by Gilbert Ryle over 60 years ago in his book "the concept of mind". If we look at an individual through the lens of a group, then we have made them a ghost in the machine. Our human brains love to put things into categories, it makes it easier for us to find people we might feel we can be safe and empowered by but when we generalise we also must remember people are individuals. If we allow our chosen groups to take over our individuality then we are making ourselves a ghost; we are not living authentically or self-aware of our strengths and shortfalls. Roma is Roma just as much as I am myself and anyone reading this you are you.
Prob less than 1% lol ...if so much men hated women the world would not be how it is today if im not mistaken didnt mean start to invent stuff simply to impress women lol
When I approached “real” feminist after getting “lucky” with woman I was shunned and told to shut the f up and that I could never I know what it is like to get “lucky.” So when they same feminist includes men….I tend to shut down and ignore them.
Ok so I’ve seen this countless number of times is that anytime anyone calls out a woman, there’s always someone who thinks you degrade women or are tearing them down. I’m a woman, but I agree with you Roma, not this idiot who thinks she knows what you are doing!
I love Roma for the fact she talks about both sides of the coin not just one. She does bring up great points on men just as much as women but because there is so many women that want to shut down men. Not all but quite a bit of them want to push this feminazi narrative of men are nothing but piggy banks, ect. I don't mean hate toward others but if your gonna send hate you should get hate. Don't tell someone to humble themselves if you yourself aren't willing to research and humble yourself in the process. In the words of many people I know "get fucked karen."
Notice how she can't actually let people finish a sentence before she "corrects" you? People with no life experience trying to "educate" us on social media is a joke. People who say "do better" unironically usually turn out to be selfish, vain, and garbage people.
This woman gives men hope, and a sense of security in knowing that not all modern women are a 1 time use item! It's nice having an understanding ally from the other side of the fence 👍
"In your attempt to advocate for men, you're tearing down women" Spoken like a true feminist. That one statement alone tells me all I need to know about this crazy broad.
Thank you for everything you say. For a long time I thought it was entirely my fault. I tried to give everything of myself. All i wanted was physical intimacy in return for everything I provided. *Show* me you care. Not sex but a simple hug, a kiss, holding hands, cuddle. It ended up once in a huge argument "MY BODY! I'LL DO WHAT I WANT!" Now Im alone after i gave up everything(including my grandparents home we bought) for our son when she told me to leave. That's what good men are supposed to do, right? I feel so broken and hate myself for it. I'm stuck in a loop of "white male privilege" guilt and just ashamed. I don't trust compliments. Anyway... thank you. You show me that it is a problem on both sides. The dynamic just shifted over the years to something scary for men. I am on a few dating sites and so many women have so many unreasonable demands up front that make them unapproachable.
Biggest tip from one man to another, stop looking for women on dating sites. That’s where the garbage congregates. Go out, find women in the real world. Vet them very carefully, if she’s not being as nice as she can be on the first few dates while she’s trying to impress you, leave her in the rear view, she’s not gonna get any better with time.
Roma Army, I am super grateful for people like yourself that are standing up for us men. I can't think of a better person to do it. You're very intelligent very attractive both mentally and physically. I enjoy listening to your content and this lady that is trying to tear you down she's definitely wrong. I have probably listened to about 50 or more of your videos. And I enjoy them all. Please keep up the great work there are actually men out here like myself rooting for your success. John in Erie Pennsylvania
Female LGBTQ+ follower here - you've made me look inward and not only be a better feminist, but also made me become a supporter of men's rights. So I guess you could say a better person in general. Like someone else said, those who really follow you know the truth. Keep doing you Roma ✊🏻
I trust a woman who has neck tattoos more than a thing that *DOUSES* herself in makeup. I was in a toxic marriage for 15 years that left me a shell of a man. After my ex cheated on me, after I left for work for three weeks to support the fam, she sent me a text message three days into my work hitch to tell me it was over. After the mental break down on the job, I had a ton of support from my fellow workers that advised me on what to do. It's been three years since the divorc3. I'm happier, my kids are old enough to see the controlling shit stain that me ex is, and I have a year left of child support, I make exponentially more than the no ambition ex, and will be able to move with my daughter to where she wants to live instead of being stuck in the heathen north. Whew... anyway, have a great day all.
Mic drop 🎤 I am a woman, and I watch your content. Not only because you touch both points but if we are going to demolish dumb shit from both sides we need to understand both sides. It’s not just women problems that we should be aware of, but also men. I am not just a woman, I am a WIFE to a MAN and possible future mother of a SON so shit has to be covered all on ends for us to grow better and learn from each other better.
Please continue down this path as your definitely that type of advocate men need in this world as of current. I love the fact that you call for accountability in both sexes!
I'm really glad there is a female advocating for men because if it was a male advocating for men alot of females would call him a piece of shit. Excuse my language.
Her: In your attempt to advocate for men you tear down women. Roma: No DYQ for Baby Trappers, Abusers, Manipulators, Spiteful usage of children. Me: So holding bad behavior accountable is tearing you down? Good to know! Let’s put in a little overtime boys n girls!!
Whenever someone says Feminism is for men too, just ask them what issues has Feminism solved that disproportionately affects men. I'm sure they wouldn't be able to answer even in a single one.
I believe there were a lot of men who listened to women speak about equality. Some agreed, some didn’t. So the feminist started yelling. Some still listened, some still didn’t. Someone in the feminist’s gave up yelling at the people who wouldn’t listen. So they started yelling at the ones who were listening and the men went “ We are on your side, why are you yelling at us?!” Then we stoped listening.
I haven't finished the video but I, a woman, can say that I've learned more from you than most people. I didn't even know men had legit issues until you, Roma. My mom taught me all women's issues come from men and that toxic women are the fault of men and that I should be afraid of all men. I've learned to be more sympathetic to men and to not generalize them and to also be better for future relationships.
I've stopped being afraid of half the human race because of your videos. I've learned to look at myself and not be so double-minded toward men. I've learned to be a better person to both men and women from you, Roma. If that's internalized misogyny... Then the very first true feminists were the most misogynistic people EVER because that's what they were like.
I thank you entirely just for you being you but what you said is not only true but terrifying. Especially in the beginning
“I didn’t even know men had ‘legit’ issues until you, Roma.”
I bet a lot of women would be saying this…..
I am glad that now care.
Thats good and i will help in my world its almost the oppisite yea i was brought up slight like the macho man attitude but threw it away for true strength also my mental abuse and even some physical abuse have come primarily from women
And that said i know not all woman are toxic of blindly following everything they are taught as i have friends both genders so are homosexual and some even have trans people in their lives and to me it means nothing i see people not labels
Girl I am glad you have come to understand Romo is a superhero cast without a cape she has someone that many of us look up to I've nothing against the first feminists they just wanted things to be a little bit more equal without being put down so much or saying they can't do certain things because they are women that's just wrong
“The internalized misogyny is really just too much for me” it was at this moment I knew… I was about to get annoyed.
For me it was at "The internalized misogyny..." My response was "aaand here. We. Go." * eyeroll *
They just string odd words together to appear smart
She's not wrong tho... the girl was just mad... Roma has several porn videos that we all watched... and she has been in an off and on relationship with Caleb for years... she then becomes a stream line mens rights activist, while raising her kids, "finding herself," and figuring out how to change her alternative narrative to be "accepting" of forms of toxic masculinity and femininity. I love roma... but she clearly suffers from severe misogynist daddy issues. I mean why do you think she strives to be a mother and try to protect men lmao... she is y'alls queen and you won't ever see it any other way. Unless you prove me wrong somehow and show me she isn't all those things from the steaming piles of red flags she eminates sure... she is a positive influence on the internet. But otherwise like most ppl her character is explainable by her trauma... good for her 👏.
The fact that someone liked this kind of proves my point too...
I'd have tuned out at that point.
If feminism includes men, then Chloe is more of a feminist than she is.
The fact she claims calls you a "pickme/pikmi" and that Chloe is hurting men shows what kind of feminists she actually is, which by her claim of what feminism includes, she herself would not be.
Roma is literally both a feminist and men's right activist. Her followers know this and are both
I like the term egalitarian better personally.
@@dynastystar5515 same here
@@dynastystar5515 same here
Egalitarian is better.
Feminism is not about equality. It is a supremacy movement steeped in Marxist ideology.
Don’t use that word 🥴
I’m a woman and I can admit that when I first read “Men’s Rights”, I was like “wtf!? Who is this girl and what’s wrong with her!?” And then I listened. And my eyes have been opened. So, thank you.
@@cromaxthedarkangelglumiith5659 I’m older so I hadn’t noticed this trend and it’s definitely disturbing. It’s not what feminism started out as, that’s for damn sure.
The better question you should ask yourself is more, “ Why is your answer immediately to men’s rights, wtf!?” When I’m sure if it was titled, “women’s rights.” I’m sure that wouldn’t even have been in your vocabulary. This just enlightens more on the very problems Roma is discussing here. Why the lack of equality? That’s a question we all need to be better asking ourselves. Why are we merely judging all men based on one or two’s actions. Women get highly upset when being judged by another previous women’s actions. Why should we likewise then do the same to men? This foreboding characterization of men as evil, heartless, emotionless, cruel, non caring about us is not true over the broad spectrum. And, just as Roma points out is clearly a indecent act to single out an entire gender as evil. When you don’t even know the person at all period. Acting like every man is a pedo, or rapist, or murderer is just unhinged, and in finality insensible.
Yep, that's the main problem. Human instinct is more often than not "spear first, ask questions later." Should we judge people who react based on a books cover? Only if they didn't read the back. So, thanks for having an open mind and being willing to hear what others have to say. Sadly the same can't be said for most. Sorry for writing so much, my ADHD meds make me write more when before I'd have single word responses.
She has a Patreon and only fans where she has her tits out and dick in her mouth.. so ... Don't always believe what you see. Just saying.. she's in it for the money, not for the "values". That's why she goes after Pearl, who doesn't have to do that to make a living and support both men and women
Yeah but let’s be real she takes advantage of men to . By acting sexual on camera .
Thanks for all you do. It's nice to hear a woman advocating for men.
In the 21st century only a woman could. Any man who tried to stand up for himself or his gender would immediately be banned from the internet, itself, in a matter of hours. There would be hundreds of millions of people calling for his execution.
For fuck sake, idiot.
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but give her money for her only fans. because simping is healthy and in no way diminishes the value of what men have to offer
@@charaznable6597 Are you serious about that? Why give her money for merely telling you what you want to hear? She tells nothing new. Simping is destructive to the simps. Stay away from her. I am here only to save idiots.
Please Chloe make a reaction about this loser incel white x skin pale male, im 50 And not like this loser, the difference im mgtow and he is an incel loser no real man, real Man have self control....ua-cam.com/video/ssdtquCiruc/v-deo.html
As a woman, I personally found comfort from your videos. I started feeling like the way people around me talk about men was just gross and wrong. I found you and realized, I was right! Men can be terrible, but so can women. And sometimes people just tend to date like 5 guys that were gross. Alot of people I am around say "I hate men" when they hear something bad about a guy, but then when they hear something bad about a girl it's "Ugh, I hate people sometimes."
@@cromaxthedarkangelglumiith5659 Thas what I try to tell people. I say "I just hate people."
Although it's not true all the time. Everyone has bad qualities, the difference is when people take them to the next level and don't care about others feelings
@@ViolexiaTnT im not racist. I hate everyone. Its always my response. Do you hate me? Do I know you? No. Then yes, I hate you. If you are lucky I might get to know you and hate you less.
@@cromaxthedarkangelglumiith5659 Oh really? I will have to check them out, I fully enjoy Roma and love to hear some of my own mindset be put out, but in a more thoughtful manner
@@winchestersons6258 Eggzactly. Love our friends, they can annoy you but you still care about them. I'd help a stranger, be nice, but I just don't like my fellow humans this Earth. They have to show that they are actually compassionate
That’s because hating men is acceptable but hating women is not. Also, when PEOPLE posses toxic traits, it’s ok to attribute those to their gender if they are male, because negative traits are inherently associated with being male. However, if the person with the toxic traits is female, then those traits are a result of some external factor that caused her to behave in that way.
The salty dodging little harpy at the beginning with her no true Scotsman fallacy was just delicious
Roma you don’t tear down women, you tear down women who are tearing down men that easy
Well said! Thank you roma for everything you do!
Agreed 💯
Nah she's generalises when she talks about women. If she just said, this is a minority of women not the majority then there wouldnt be a problem. She also never calls out men, that minority of men that are complete aholes
Let’s be honest. It was this lady’s responsibility to call out somebody trying to advocate for men. Listen you’re the only woman I’ve found that really understands men. I know that social justice bimbo really doesn’t.
"Real Feminism" EVERY time I hear that from a feminist I KNOW they're about to start spewing bullshit. Feminism is not about elevating women by raising the ceiling for women, but lowering the ceiling for men so that men cant rise high enough to even match women's current ceiling. It infantalizes women by blaming men for all of their problems, and caricature's all men as being guilty of every sin a man has ever committed, and even some that they didn't. Feminism's actions do not match their words, which means they are either a liar, or a hypocrite, or both. Not going to respect the opinion of toxic lying hypocrites.
Yeah, some of those so-called "Real Feminists" who are guilty of blaming men for every problem in the universe, including their own problems, have no clue of what OG feminism truly is and that it breaks down the oppression of Both Men and Women
Absolutely. Most who claim to be feminists today, aren't feminists. They're man-hating little girls who have been coddled their entire lives and told that they're victims cuz of "patriarchy".
The early feminists didn't teach the new age that equality also comes with equal accountability... So many young women don't know what it's like to be held accountable because they can blame it on men, or their hormones or really anything other than themselves.
Tell them to become humanists so there is equality. It usually breaks there brain.
I am a 35 year old woman who loves your content. I’ve never felt offended, trivialized, put down, or anything of the sort from any of your videos that I’ve seen. I follow you regularly, and I find you to be equally as kind towards women as you are towards men. I have a 6 year old son and an amazing husband. I was raised by my mom and dad, and my dad was equally as present in my life as my mom. I couldn’t have asked for a better dad, as he was loving, gentle, incredibly intelligent, taught me so much, and propped me up with enough confidence to pursue a career in physics, which is still made up of a a larger percentage of men. He’s everything a father should be. Which is why I am very sensitive to feminists that put down men. I won’t stand for it. I stand up for men when I encounter those situations personally, but I don’t have the personality to advocate for men the way you do. I love your lighthearted content as much as the serious and emotional content. I can relate to you in a lot of ways, which is a result of your vulnerability on camera. You’re transparent and don’t shy away from the tough subjects. Thank you for standing up for men, and for having the courage to stand up for yourself to the extremist-type feminists. I hope you know that there are many women who appreciate and back you as much as your male ‘army’ does! Keep it up, and thank you! 😊💕
Also, I appreciate how you never put anyone down personally when you do rebuttal videos. You even paid her a compliment. The way you handled Think Before You Sleep’s video was fantastic.
@@cromaxthedarkangelglumiith5659 sometimes it’s offensive how a lot of influencers put down men just on the basis that they’re men. It’s refreshing to see men and women being talked about as equals. Women bash “the patriarchy”, and men in general, relentlessly.
Very well stated.. and right there with you Anne. It makes me wonder 💭 if some of this isn’t those whom had a poor male role model or just poor experiences in life taking out their garbage on the other gender? I say this simply because as you I have an amazing dad who did exactly the same. And I harbor no resentment against men, and I totally 💯 have seen where Roma is coming from on a personal level. So many anymore are simply just ugly to men to the point many are even committing suicide etc. Its just so out of hand. Generalizing an entire gender based on a few bad eggs is just wrong. Regardless. There’s good women there’s good men. But to cross the street rather than pass a man simply because all men are rapists ..? No that’s horrible ideologically. Not all men are predators. I just have seen it all everything she says. And it really is ugly how a great portion. Not all. But the majority of women anymore do treat men like second class citizens. It’s sad really.
Agreed! And that’s too bad. They’re not only doing men a disservice, but us women, too.
The only "including men" ive ever seen in feminism is "men need to get out of the way and advocate for women to replace them. Men should cry more, but dont expect women to do the emotional labor of caring about what youre crying about". If you want a social philosophy that really includes everyone, try egalitarianism. Feminism is about woman supremecy.
Also, nose ring girl needs to learn that criticising certain behaviors of toxic women (and rightly so) is neither "internalized misoginy" (stupid dismissive feminist buzzword), nor is it "tearing down women". People are individuals; not gender monoliths
Oh please. Your saying how Gabi is wrong in calling Chloe, a men's rights activist, a misogynist. But goddamn, your doing the same thing by calling all feminists women supremacists. Do you see the irony? LOL
You're not wrong, they seem to expect something for nothing
@@yourstruly_shriya2366 pretty sure he means modern feminism, which is what his description fits. And while classic feminism is a good thing, it and the word have been co-opted by bad people. And it's more common to find a modern feminist than a classic one. One of the reasons the word feminism needs to die and be replaced with something less...divisive or confusing in my opinion.
You have just shared the absolute truth.
@@vrokar1 Eh correction. Its pseudo feminism, not modern feminism. Modern feminism just includes modern day red flag stuff men do and vice versa. Modern feminism never rejected the principles of classic feminism. In that case, how can modern feminism be about woman supremacy when the classic one wasn't? This pisses me off SO MUCH. Everyone just calls pseudo feminism as modern day feminism and that's not true. Call me sensitive, but I really don't like how some people put pseudos and actual modern day feminists in the same spectrum. Like wow.
Thanks to you....I finally have to courage to take my ex to court for divorce, alimony (she stole THOUSANDS from me our last 1.5 years together, but I'll get into that another time), and go after her for the emotional damage to my son and I. I finally have the courage to stand up for myself to not only my ex, but to anyone downing on emotionally broken men. Your advocacy for men's rights is amazing and thank you so much for all you do!!!!
Gabi, like most rabid 3rd wavers, get highly triggered when you reveal you're not a member of the sisterhood. It's truly one of my favorite things about not being a feminist. Can a 43 year old woman be a pick me? Apparently. When I'm not being accused of being a Russian troll bot, I'm being accused of being a pick me for not hating men. This timeline is wild.
Welcome to the wonderful world of terminally online people my dude. It’s both hilarious and depressing in equal doses with people like Gabi. As a fella about half your age I’ve had to put up with chicks like that on the dating scene.
@The Emperor Of Mankind , Negahban Bozorg Don’t sweat it boss, Cawl is working on woman 2.0 so this problem should end soon. And if he fails, there is a brash young apothecary named Bile doing great work on improving the species.
Same generation and it’s insane how badly off the rails next wave feminism went. Feminism lived long enough that it went from hero (right to vote, etc) to becoming the villain (misandry under a different name)
@The Emperor Of Mankind , Negahban Bozorg if you don’t mind me asking, around how old are you friend?
@The Emperor Of Mankind , Negahban Bozorg
Nope, not gonna call you a pick me. Not gonna take shots at a young person who’s hurting. I have a son around your age and I know it can be a rough time. What I will do is strongly recommend a book and make a few suggestions. The book is *12 Rules for Life* by Jordan Peterson. There is a sequel, but let’s start there. Read the book, and try your best every day to implement what you read.
The suggestions are also simple. If you can, see a therapist to help you with these dark thoughts. Everyone has them, and talking helps. If that’s not possible- confide in your friends because You can be darn sure they are probable having similar thoughts. And importantly you need to understand that things will get better. You have contributions to make and people who love you. You will get through this.
Yass👏🏻 I've been ridiculed for advocating prodometly for men but also for women as well but women can't get over the fact that I advocate for men in general.
Kinda like the fact that feminism can consistently insult men and blaming them for everything... But when Chloe says something against feminists it's always so "disrespectful" and some other shits
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“That’s why they usually claim “internalized misogyny.” It’s a way to place blame on something, some boogeyman, for why Roma supposedly disagrees seemingly at a woman’s expense. They always sound like damn drones when they use that term. It has no backing/credibility anywhere, it’s simply a thing that got so popular amongst feminist/victim circles that they now accept it as fact…
Even when she's holding them accountable for their own actions it's still other people's fault which just proves her point.
Soooo many shits…
"and some other shits" spot-on, you took them shits right outta mymouth
They'll call anyway a 'pick me' that doesn't abide by the faux feminism. She's definitely isn't but thank you for the laugh whoever you are.
What? How is Chloe turning people against men? 🤦 Sit down, Gabi. Sit down, love.
She didn’t even explain why you’re bad. Just said “Roma bad she do the bad and me no like her” but didn’t provide anything close to proof of her claims
Turning more people against men ? Like women on the internet need any push to do that . Men get openly slandered every moment of the day with little to no push back . A lot of the time women are encouraged to do so and rewarded with internet clout .
Some of us push back. Hell, I push back in public. This one feminist got me so raging, just with how she approached me on a level of disrespect, I absolutely hammered that point of principle into everyone’s heads around me and 15 minutes later she was bringing me an apology joint trying to clear the air. I made it about principle, and the crowd took my side.
I was so brutal, and overly vocal in my assessment of her future and current situation that she didn’t stick around afterwards either, despite multiple people extending the offer.
"Mah internalized misogyny!" I hate terms like that because they're clunky and don't make the most sense. Seems more hyperbolic than anything; a major exaggeration, and attempt to sound more intelligent and call someone something very ugly in the process. I think the more appropriate term for these frequently false allegations would be 'low gender esteem.'
Just because a person doesn't have great respect or admiration for their ilk doesn't mean that they hate or oppress their own kind. And when listening to the often fair criticisms that aren't well liked by said community - because narcism - I see absolutely no justification in using harsher terms to address those people. Simply put, Chloe's view is period accurate, which makes high gender esteem extremely difficult for any intellectually honest member of the community, and it's completely unfair to describe her as any form of misogynist - as a female herself - just because she [appropriately] criticizes women.
It's this kind of popular political idiocy that prompts more and more women to walk away from the third wave of feminism, in favor of egalitarianism instead. However, egalitarianism is always the way forward when communities need to be depolarized.
I am not even a feminist because it's just too much drama. I subscribed to you because u seem not to dramatic and overall logical about what you're saying and I agree with a lot of it. I am not able to differentiate between feminism and not feminism here but I just want all to be kind to one another. Be kind and we wouldn't even have to talk about most things feminism speaks about. Wish u all a wonderful day/night! God bless u
@@Kahn101 they exist...in other countries...but no one talks about India or arabic speaking countries (luckily in some bigger cities it seems more equal for both sexes). Or any other where girls are literally killed because they are seen as useless for the families. The western countries have a paradise for women in comparison to others.
your life requires more conviction than “lets just all be nice”
@@maddog7999 nah, God says to love him first and then thy neighbor. If humans would act like it no one would have these problems. It's not even that hard but humans love to fight apparently.
There’s so many feminists with misandry, to the point that any true egalitarian gets viewed as mysogynistic… _big sigh_
Roma: Sorry for uploading so late
Europeans: I dont have such weaknesses
Its 6 AM where I live. And I'm going to sleep LOL
@@Arzidi around 4AM for me lol
Good thing I’m European haha
This account has helped me more than I can ever explain like 👀 almost seems like people trying to swat it down are just jealous in the most sincere way
She got nothing better to do, you know lol. I doubt she got a job.
Her job is selling her body online
@@txdestroyer-tt4ov this is the bitter video because no one is 'buying' her anymore...
@@apparently_sonam that right there was a violation 💀
Neither does Roma. UA-cam and pushing her smut on her Patreon are her jobs.
@@kingbaby8761 you're just another one of Roma's simps :)
That was comical as fuck Roma. Thanks for speaking for us when no one else would. You’re a legend for sure!
Translation: Chloe isn’t following the narrative, so is therefore divisive. >_> The one thing feminists can’t stand more than men is women who don’t tow the line
So many women tear themselves down and then try to ignore it. You're just out here bringing the toxicity into the light. And in a very balanced, honest and fair way, I might add. You just call out the toxicity, regardless of what side it's on.
There is division and people should talk about it and address it. Ignoring it hoping it’ll just go away is in no way the solution
I'm a man, I just needed an outlet for my thoughts and this seems like the best place to put it...
As a 7 year old I learned to drive a farm tractor (reaching for the pedals was hard XD), I was told that "this is a man's job" so you have to learn it. I was scared at first but afterwards I was proud of it, and I literally told my mom that "women can't drive farm tractors", she quickly proved me wrong and she immediately gained more respect in my view. Why did I think that though was because I never saw her drive before, she also literally told me "it's a man's job"... I was still proud of what I learned, and I gained more respect for my mom.
Then school started and I got bullied for the next 9 years, mostly by other guys but there were a few girls too. I had trouble developing any social skills (I may be on the autism spectrum, never diagnosed), I preferred to be alone and didn't have any friends. Later on a high-school all the girls in my classroom were disgusted of me and they would let me know it too, I stopped talking to girls and women after that. Though I don't know if I can really blame them, I was miserable all the time in school and I developed a collection of unfavorable behaviours like picking my nose and pulling my hair.
College was completely different, different people and no more bullying, I had no idea how to handle it so I didn't speak to anyone unless I absolutely had to.
My mom and dad were arguing about something one day. I don't remember what it was... I remember my mom telling me that the "Man is the head of the family but the woman is the neck and controls where the head turns". I remember feeling disgusted and my relationship with my mom took a serious hit. Did that mean that the man is just a shield for the woman's decisions? It made me very cautious about women in general, can I as a guy trust any woman then?
After college I was living home for the next 5-7 years, not knowing what I should be doing with my life, too afraid to meet people, too afraid to do anything in public but the absolute minimum. Video games were, and still are, my escape to somewhere where I feel comfortable having fun. During those years I had a couple of run-ins with karens and radical feminists and my mom started making fun of me to other people, I didn't really have an outlet for these feelings so they kept piling up. I was on a serious path to becoming an incel, though I recognized it and was constantly fighting myself to take my frustration out in other ways. XP
Every year I heard and thought to myself "This is the role of a man, go to work, work your butt off, take care of your family and shut up". And if a man fails, they fail the entire family. The pressure is a lot and I couldn't take it, so I didn't even try.
I met my wife online, I commented on a picture she drew, we started talking, I had so much to talk about after not talking to nearly anyone for years and she was willing to listen, but I was so nervous and unprepared I started making somewhat inappropriate comments to drive her away (because bullies never left me alone until I made them uncomfortable, I just didn't know how to deal with normal people), to my surprise she laughed and confronted, I was taken aback, we kinda became friends, then I learned she's a girl. She being a girl didn't sway me one way or the other at this point however.
Talking to her was the best time of my day, but because of my mental minefield it was also really tough. I got anxious, sad and mad very easily, Her words meant the world to me, or the end of it. I got really mad when she cut me off, I got really sad when she ignored me, I got suicidal when she didn't agree with me. I literally stopped talking to her for weeks at a time multiple times just to prove my point how I felt about something... I'm still trying to understand exactly what I was thinking... At least partially I was overwhelmed, I couldn't cope with someone finally putting up with me. I wanted to be left alone, but I also wanted to be with her and it was really confusing sometimes.
It has taken years to untangle my mind and I owe a lot of it to my wife. I'm not 100%, I'll never be, but with each day I re-discover more of myself and how to be a better person, I want to be a better person.
Today I have a very bad social anxiety, fear of bonding with people, mild fear of women, mild fear of other ethnicities (before you think I'm a racist, I'm not, just the internet taught me for years to be very cautious), and the internet tells me I'm "privileged" and I'm the reason the world is a miserable place.
I appreciate talking about men's issues a lot. That being said, men can have a lot of issues and a lot of pressure, that may manifest itself in a way that is unpleasant or dangerous, so I'd first suggest fellow men to reflect on those and find a release in something that does not hurt anyone, including yourself. Then get help, moping about how the world is unfair to you isn't helpful, even if it may be true, there are things you can do to help yourself to be better towards other people and maybe in return, some of those people will be nicer to you, just pick up the good ones and try to ignore the bad people.
My coping mechanism when I was younger was always music, so when I started to struggle with social situations and women later on in life I bought myself a new piano and started to pick it up again. Between that and buying myself a reasonably priced car I always wanted, those were the best things I have done for myself, likely ever.
I too struggled socially when I was younger, and preferred to be alone, when I was 16 they tried to diagnose me as on the spectrum (Aspergers), but I refused to let them close those doors on me. I learned my social skills by throwing myself through the meat grinder of dating and post high school debauchery. Led to a lot of bad situations arising, but I’ve grown confident in myself throughout the years after I learned how to take the lead and handle them.
Mindset is a powerful thing, and it can definitely take a hit for those younger men on the spectrum and in relationships. Might be time to set up a space for resources for those men, they’re all being failed by their families, and society. There’s no reason we should have to let them fail too, having gone through somewhat similar things and thought patterns leads me to believe others may have similar experiences to ours, and as such, we have the resources and knowledge needed to help them. I just wish the feminist sphere would stop trying to destroy everything positive that men build for themselves.
I agree with both of the comments you guys left, music is definitely my way out of a bad mindstate specifically Nu Metal or Eminem. Hell i'm currently listening to a Nu Metal/Rapcore Album right now since i'm kinda feeling down at the moment life can definitely be shit i currently have no idea where to start to make my life better and the way how ugly society itself is looking even more day by day with this gender war bullshit and how people are literally killing each other it makes me wanna stay indoors even more like why can't everyone be in peace? I'm not gonna lie and say i'm a saint because i've been surpressing my dark side myself and its actually horrifying i almost turned into someone i didn't recognize due to traumatic experiences so i'm trying to keep a clear head and being suicidal doesn't help but i'm trying everyday to survive and not do anything i regret because i really don't wanna be a bad person my parents didn't raise me to become another problem in society i'm just glad i still got a little bit of love in my heart left preventing me from being a prick despite the fact i can't catch a break and practically miserable these days, whenever i get bad thoughts i always try to remember the good i did in my life to others like that time when i was at the exams and this guy that was in my class didn't have anything to eat for lunch and i gave him some of the food i was eating because i knew exactly how it feels to be hungry plus doing exams you need to be able to think while concentrating so how could anyone think on an empty stomach? After we was done eating we both went to the gas station and he told me to take up whatever drink i wanted he'd pay for it, we ended up talking all day during lunch before we had to go back to do the rest of exams. at that moment when he bought me that drink i understood the true meaning of "if you be good to others they will be good to you" that memory alone of me helping out my classmate stops me from becoming a cold hearted prick filled with meaningless hate no matter how much times people treat me like shit nowadays. With that being said i hope you guys find happiness in life i can tell you guys are cool people definitely the kinda peeps i'd chill with IRL i just wish the entire world was like that with no violence but unfortunately that is too much to ask it seems with the way things are
@@chadgrimes252 there’s a song I want you to check out, it’s a much slower one. Likely not up your alley by any past means, but it definitely has source material in it that might touch you like it did me.
Look up: Julia Brennan - Inner Demons.
We all got demons and monsters within. I’ve seen mine try to surface a few times. It’s only ever come out in full blown force once or twice, and the sheer ruthlessnesses, and emotionlessness I found myself capable of genuinely frightened me. Self preservation is a hell of a thing. Nowadays, I’m in control, it’s been years since I’ve had any major issues with my inner demons trying to come to light. I’m also happily married to a wonderful traditional woman. So I lucked way out compared to a lot of my fellow guys. Doesn’t mean I’ve given up on you all though, far from it. I’m trying to force change by leading via example, and being very vocal about it. Can’t convert a hoe to a housewife, but you can scare the hoe out of em with statistics and facts so there ain’t nothing but a housewife left.
@@bleachstain9785 Hey i just listened to the song you recommended it was absolutely beautiful and relatable at the same time, its definitely a great song so its up my alley i listen to all kinds of music its just that Metal and Rap (only good rap not the mumble garbage) is my main two favourite genres that's all i'm not like most people that stick to one genre i like to expand by listening to other genres too and i'm from the caribbean so mostly reggae plays over here i love listening to that too but i'm pretty sure i'm the only guy in my neighbourhood that listens to Metal lol, back to the topic tho i'm so glad to hear you have a loyal loving wife that is the one thing many of us guys wish to have someday i seen a few comments of guys in their 40's or 30's still alone and gave up on life an its truly depressing i been thinking that's probably my fate too but time will tell i'm just 22 turning 23 in December so my life isn't at that point yet although i'm still in a depressed mindstate trying to survive each day i had to remind myself constantly that not everyone in the world is out to get me because its been a few times people tried to use me specifically the worst type of hoes luckily i can now tell the difference between a hoe and an actual woman compared to how nueve i was when i was younger i had to learn it the hard way, hopefully everyone that feels empty will become the best version of themselves and for me lately i was kinda wanting to be cold hearted with no emotions so that i won't be able to feel pain or be hurt by "love" in case things go south then the amount of times i'm asleep with me having repeated dreams of me being in a happy relationship with a woman that actually loves me kept reoccuring in different scenarios whenever i woke up i felt so annoyed because it genuinely felt like my own brain was messing with me poking at me about something i may never have, now i look at it differently that maybe the dreams was a sign that if i go down the dark path i'll never truly be happy. Also one peaceful song deserves another well its more than one just type in "Scriptures Riddim Don Corleon" on youtube there is a video 20 minutes long with several different songs to the same rhythm basically, its caribbean songs and pretty relaxing too i think you'll dig it
ah yes... the "real feminist" argument
sounds much like the "real Scotsman" argument
I love how you just tear down the dummies that try to sound like they're smart. You tell'em. Love ya. Keep up the awesome work you do.
There may be one thing you said I don't agree with. But that's with everyone. No one is going to agree on the same issues. But I do agree with many of your videos. I had very toxic friends who loved playing with dudes feelings like my ex best friend who always told me to cheat on him. I know now she was jealous because we love each other and I'm still with the dude since 2008 .
Thank you for standing up for us men and staying true to yourself Roma. You're a rare gem nowadays.
My favorite hot takes are when the person gives zero actual examples about how horrible you are, because you know damn well they don't have any.
Young lady you are truly one of my favorite heroes ..... I've never met a woman who would be willing to stand up for men and try to understand things from their POV .....thank you for just being you.
Who is this angry child with the overdone eye makeup?
Definitely one of my favorite people on here. I love what you do and how you support everyone including men. I myself have been wrongfully accused of being a “horrible” person who supports the patriarchy, I know firsthand how it fucks people over and how standing up for those who don’t fall in between those lines get shat on. But I’m a bad person because I’m a man a white man no less
Random social justice chick: MISOGYNY
Chloe: ..... bring me my strapon.
"In your attempt to advocate for men, you're tearing down women."
No, she's tearing down misandrists, not all women. She is an advocate for men and women. She calls out cases when "feminism" isn't actually standing for men, which is way too often. I could go on and on about how utterly ridiculous and misinformed Gabi's argument is, but I don't want to waste the effort. It does make me laugh that, when people don't like the truth, they'll make baseless claims when attempting to discredit it. Keep on fighting the good fight, Roma! Gabi, watch more of her videos before you come to poor conclusions like this again because the issues Roma addresses are crucial and aren't talked about nearly enough. Peace!
Did you just use not all women against women? Nice
@@bleachstain9785 The turns have tabled.
@@bleachstain9785 women use not all men to describe all men lol where you living
@@dainaoldacre1540 United States
Egalitarian. The word you’re looking for is egalitarian. It means you seek equality.
Feminism is specific to the feminine, not necessarily women. And feminism is entirely self-serving. It is more than happy to keep the parts of its “patriarchy” that benefit it, while discarding the bits that benefit men in any way.
Gabi couldn't be more wrong, I haven't seen anyone screaming equality for everyone across the board more than Roma.
Put in her place with class and Grace. U rock Chloe ❤️
I feel like the world is better place with u in it!
I’d like someone to explain to me why something in it’s true form includes everybody has to be called “feminism.”
Honestly, we really need a different word for it.
@@shanedawndusk3290 “Courtesy”
@@TheTimMarshall That’s a damn good word for it.
Its called equality. Which chloe so aptly states in most of her videos.
Man oh man, did she ever get you wrong! Since I started following you, there has been no generalisation of either men’s or women’s behaviour.
* Have you generalised?
No.
* Have you called out individuals?
Yes.
* Have you explained why and offered an alternative view?
Yes.
* Have you, in my opinion, said anything to widen the divide between men and women?
No.
I wouldn’t follow a hypocrite. Keep doing you Chloe ✊🏻
Generalizing is an important part of thinking. Not to generalize is not to think. The question is whether one can do it accurately. If most feminists are bad, then we can generalize and say Feminism is bad, or has failed, or was only good in theory, etc.
@@gwynnapnudd702 For your hypothesis to work, you would first need to know how many feminists there are.
You would then need to define what constitutes being either a good or bad feminist, then judge each one by that definition.
Good luck with that.
@@steveblog1 Well as Aristotle said, never demand more precision from a subject than the subject itself affords. Literature isn't mathematics for example.
Since I can't do what you said, therefore nothing can be said about Feminism - or countless other important subjects?
C'mon maan! Learn to generalize. In regards to the subject at hand: Do you think Feminism is working? Ever talk to a Communist? It's always "Real Communism hasn't been tried". In other words, it doesn't work in the real world, or the world as it is.
@@gwynnapnudd702 If you generalise, you allow your argument to be shot down because generalisation in of itself is inaccurate.
Is feminism working? I don’t know, you should ask a feminist. Is it working for all feminists? Is it working for some?
Communism? In general, it’s a noble principle. However (and here’s the caveat), the principle only works if those running the show aren’t able to profit from it. Like any “good idea”, if it can be corrupted by individuals or groups, then it has already failed.
That’s all I’m saying in the matter. I have my opinion and you have yours. They differ, that’s life.
@@steveblog1 Yeah one person says gravity is real. The other doesn't. Equally good opinions. A Democracy is born.
Generalization is as fundamental as gravity. For example, if every time our ancestors came near a saber tooth tiger, it was a completely new experience, we wouldn't be here. But no: they generalized their experiences into the concept of the Cat, with the inner warning of Bad/Dangerous.
What if you got hit by a car but said to yourself, that was just a one time thing. It says nothing about cars in general being dangerous. You wouldn't be long for this world.
A generalization is a concept. To be against them is to be against thinking at all.
Bc of this channel, we will avoid extinction.
I greatly appreciate what you do for EVERYONE. You're a very special person.. Thank you
Thank you for all that you do for men chloe. ❤❤❤ PLEASE DON'T EVER BELIEVE THESE EXTREME TOXIC FEMINIST WHEN THEY COME FOR YOU. ❤❤❤
Quit giving these idiots your time, especially more than once, they are not worth it. Love you and your content. Keep it coming, you are helping more people than you realize.
It’s nice to see someone who supports both sides of the issue ‼️‼️
I've been saying this for years and years. Thank you Chloe for your videos. And for getting out there what alot of women and men need to hear. 💜
I'm just going to speak for me. Thank you. I'll be the first to admit I haven't got it right after 2 long term relationships and a marriage, but I'm slowly learning that it wasn't all my fault when it's basically 50/50. You have my utmost admiration and respect.
Love your content, and putting this woman in her place EPIC!
This is a No Diqk situation lol
Here's the thing and what I appreciate the most about your videos. Many times, when sharing stories or showing videos it's not just a wake up call for women to stop and or show what a lot us men have experienced on a daily. But also shows us men weren't not the only ones experiencing this, that it's not normal and it is in fact abuse.
The same thing happens when videos or stories of women are being abused. I genuinely believe a lot of us men who watch these videos agree that all abuse no matter the gender is bullshit and should stop. Why would we want someone to experience the same hardship, abuse and experiences we've had. Doesn't makes sense.
Hell yeah! You go Chloe! Love your stuff and keep being woke and awesome for the peeps who don’t feel like we can talk about stuff like this. It makes me feels so nice that someone like you cares. Thank you so much for making me feel more comfortable in my own skin.
*This is what Gynocentrism looks like.*
Just advocating for men's gender issues is treated some how an antithesis to feminism for some reason? See what she is upset about is that the necessity for this community goes against her internal narrative that Feminism is an all encompassing movement for gendered issues.
So she is acting like YOU are dividing the genders. Not the people she agrees are toxic with the "kill men" posts. But we needed this space to talk about our issues without feminist victim blaming us with "the patriarchy caused this so it is your fault. Men need to fix it." Like if we had any power about it. Also we ARE trying to do something by bringing it up. Like this one, feminist often acted like we we are some how being deflective of female issues or trying to steal the spot light. Because we simply brought up our gender's issues in it's own bubble. But they still are unable to see why we needed our own space.
Feminism not only has a long history of keeping men's voices out the gender issues conversation. They constantly are creating these fictional mentalities they swear men have. But it is just the most ungenerous interpretation of why we do anything, including why are we doing suicide. So excuse us for assuming you don't not care to hear about our lived in experiences. Feminists, not saying you movement isn't necessary for real female issues. But stop acting like men are included.
Be honest, outside of tokenizing us in superficial ways. Like mentioning guys might like flowers too or rare occasions of considering us in conversations of body positivity.
When have you ever seen feminists talk about men's more serious issues? (Without trying to spin it as another way we are just hurting ourselves.) You say feminist issues are human issues. But you also say men's issues are their own doing.
So we created our own space and you hate us because you convinced yourself that all sexism will be solved of we just continue to only focus on your issues. She upset of the idea that men can be victims on a grand social scale, that women are not naturally innocent, that all gendered issues is not going to be solved by a female backed movement alone like prophecies in her head. She hates that gendered issues can have more angles outside a feminist prospective. Fucking typical, arrogant, and patronizing gynocentrism shit.
At school there were posters for a smash the patriarchy party. For women/girls only. As a biological female, it shouldn’t be specified
Roma.... You are doing just AWESOME... KEEP DOING WHAT YOU ARE DOING... there will always be that one that has to cry about the truth.
it is nice to hear someone speak the facts for once thx for all you do Roma I believe you are making a difference
What she's saying is bullsh*t!! In no way have you made a division between men and women nor have you been against women. You have been against what men and women have been doing wrong against one another and shedding light to subjects in that matter that are being overlooked because let's be honest, women have been doing a lot of messed up things to men nowadays because of the bs they hear other women telling them is ok. I'm so glad you're doing what you're doing! I didn't know feminism had brainwashed so many women until I seen your videos and I have been apauled at what most of them think is an ok way to treat a man. They need to realize that somebody needs to stand up for these men who are being done wrong because of their gender. Nobody should be done that way! Thank you Roma for advocating for men, they really need help against the sick feminist but also thanks for calling out in general those who are doing wrong to others. You are very appreciated!
True feminism IS inclusive of men. I never liked how Chloe used the word feminists to refer to women with absolutely 0 feminist motives. BUT I DON'T think Chloe has any internalized misogyny though. Calling out women who are baby trappers, gold diggers, manipulators, or who body shame men is NOT hating on women. That creator seems to put all women on the same category of innocent sweet angels and makes it sound like calling out a woman who does something wrong to men is actually Chloe being misogynistic and rude towards _all_ women, which is just bs.
That’s why they usually claim “internalized misogyny.” It’s a way to place blame on something, some boogeyman, for why Roma supposedly disagrees seemingly at a woman’s expense. They always sound like damn drones when they use that term. It has no backing/credibility anywhere, it’s simply a thing that got so popular amongst feminist/victim circles that they now accept it as fact…
Do you really think the woman in the video is that smart? Or has much empathy? She really thinks she did something using that term because she was triggered. Kids need to stop watching this crap thinking anyone knows wtf they’re talking about and learn that many adults are just as dumb if not dumber than them (except younger people have an excuse).
And nah feminism is BS, It’s crazy how people still try to cling to the term. Movements are defined by actions of the many.
@@soundwavesuperior6761 By true feminism I meant something that while putting spotlight on women's issues, doesn't hate on men, something that doesn't expect men to fulfill unreasonable demands and doesn't body shame men which is what a lot of the so called feminist tiktokers(=pseudo feminists) in Roma's vids were doing. I hope I cleared that up for you? Sweetie, when we say we support the true form of an ideology it doesn't mean we are following the archaic medieval equivalent of it, it just means that we don't support those people who in the name of following a certain ideology, cater to their own selfish interests by manipulating it and create new branches out of it that is in no way what the truest form of the ideology supports.
@@Ryan-cb1ei feminism is too vague. Everyone has different definition of feminism it truly confuses me.
You got this..haters can't bring you down...keep posting videos ...one love
Anybody else catch gabbys mustache right before Roma comes in?
She's def hateful and most likely jealous as a man I appreciate you cause you def hit the nail on the head 💯 Roma def is a chill person and she prob didn't deserve a response
I started watching on TT and converted to YT you are the best advocate for equal rights I have ever come across. You always mention the toxicness of all genders but predominately talk on behalf of men.
If certain people take offence to real issues then maybe they need to be offended.
In my line of work of clinical counselling (yes I spelt it with two L's I'm Australian we're weird like that), overgeneralising is a problem with unhelpful thoughts. We can never generalise an individual, That is a path of making people "Ghosts in the machine". No this is not a manga comic or cartoon, it was a phrase coined by Gilbert Ryle over 60 years ago in his book "the concept of mind". If we look at an individual through the lens of a group, then we have made them a ghost in the machine. Our human brains love to put things into categories, it makes it easier for us to find people we might feel we can be safe and empowered by but when we generalise we also must remember people are individuals. If we allow our chosen groups to take over our individuality then we are making ourselves a ghost; we are not living authentically or self-aware of our strengths and shortfalls. Roma is Roma just as much as I am myself and anyone reading this you are you.
Just out of curiosity. What percentage of men would be considered actually misogynistic?
Depends on who you ask 😅
Prob less than 1% lol ...if so much men hated women the world would not be how it is today if im not mistaken didnt mean start to invent stuff simply to impress women lol
When I approached “real” feminist after getting “lucky” with woman I was shunned and told to shut the f up and that I could never I know what it is like to get “lucky.” So when they same feminist includes men….I tend to shut down and ignore them.
Ok so I’ve seen this countless number of times is that anytime anyone calls out a woman, there’s always someone who thinks you degrade women or are tearing them down. I’m a woman, but I agree with you Roma, not this idiot who thinks she knows what you are doing!
2020 roma was great! I'm glad you have grown because growth is amazing.
I love Roma for the fact she talks about both sides of the coin not just one. She does bring up great points on men just as much as women but because there is so many women that want to shut down men. Not all but quite a bit of them want to push this feminazi narrative of men are nothing but piggy banks, ect. I don't mean hate toward others but if your gonna send hate you should get hate. Don't tell someone to humble themselves if you yourself aren't willing to research and humble yourself in the process. In the words of many people I know "get fucked karen."
Thank you Chloe, 😊 💓. I support Roma for all men who won't or can't.
Notice how she can't actually let people finish a sentence before she "corrects" you?
People with no life experience trying to "educate" us on social media is a joke.
People who say "do better" unironically usually turn out to be selfish, vain, and garbage people.
This woman gives men hope, and a sense of security in knowing that not all modern women are a 1 time use item! It's nice having an understanding ally from the other side of the fence 👍
"In your attempt to advocate for men, you're tearing down women"
Spoken like a true feminist. That one statement alone tells me all I need to know about this crazy broad.
NO DIQK
Thank you for everything you say. For a long time I thought it was entirely my fault. I tried to give everything of myself. All i wanted was physical intimacy in return for everything I provided. *Show* me you care. Not sex but a simple hug, a kiss, holding hands, cuddle. It ended up once in a huge argument "MY BODY! I'LL DO WHAT I WANT!" Now Im alone after i gave up everything(including my grandparents home we bought) for our son when she told me to leave. That's what good men are supposed to do, right? I feel so broken and hate myself for it. I'm stuck in a loop of "white male privilege" guilt and just ashamed. I don't trust compliments.
Anyway... thank you. You show me that it is a problem on both sides. The dynamic just shifted over the years to something scary for men. I am on a few dating sites and so many women have so many unreasonable demands up front that make them unapproachable.
Biggest tip from one man to another, stop looking for women on dating sites. That’s where the garbage congregates.
Go out, find women in the real world. Vet them very carefully, if she’s not being as nice as she can be on the first few dates while she’s trying to impress you, leave her in the rear view, she’s not gonna get any better with time.
Roma Army,
I am super grateful for people like yourself that are standing up for us men. I can't think of a better person to do it. You're very intelligent very attractive both mentally and physically. I enjoy listening to your content and this lady that is trying to tear you down she's definitely wrong. I have probably listened to about 50 or more of your videos. And I enjoy them all.
Please keep up the great work there are actually men out here like myself rooting for your success.
John in Erie Pennsylvania
Ignore her she just wants attention instead of finding a good man lol
No man wants her...
Female LGBTQ+ follower here - you've made me look inward and not only be a better feminist, but also made me become a supporter of men's rights. So I guess you could say a better person in general. Like someone else said, those who really follow you know the truth. Keep doing you Roma ✊🏻
No more sub since you decided to insult my sexuality.
How refreshing..... This is the attitude of women that men are sincerely attracted too.
And I would also point out.... Respect!
Oh… .-. I was with you till lgbtqlmnop+. Unsubbing.
@The Milkman she made that clear when she insulted everyone of a different sexuality. Have fun being a bigot
@The Milkman no one wants you to exist, bigot
You have truly become my favorite tik tok creator. It's awesome hearing a women advocate for men
I trust a woman who has neck tattoos more than a thing that *DOUSES* herself in makeup. I was in a toxic marriage for 15 years that left me a shell of a man. After my ex cheated on me, after I left for work for three weeks to support the fam, she sent me a text message three days into my work hitch to tell me it was over. After the mental break down on the job, I had a ton of support from my fellow workers that advised me on what to do. It's been three years since the divorc3. I'm happier, my kids are old enough to see the controlling shit stain that me ex is, and I have a year left of child support, I make exponentially more than the no ambition ex, and will be able to move with my daughter to where she wants to live instead of being stuck in the heathen north. Whew... anyway, have a great day all.
Thank you Roma, I sincerely appreciate all that you do. Its obvious that Gabi is upset she "didn't get picked." Keep up the good work!!!
The greatest thing one can ever learn is just to love and be loved in return
Mic drop 🎤
I am a woman, and I watch your content. Not only because you touch both points but if we are going to demolish dumb shit from both sides we need to understand both sides. It’s not just women problems that we should be aware of, but also men.
I am not just a woman, I am a WIFE to a MAN and possible future mother of a SON so shit has to be covered all on ends for us to grow better and learn from each other better.
Please continue down this path as your definitely that type of advocate men need in this world as of current. I love the fact that you call for accountability in both sexes!
I'm really glad there is a female advocating for men because if it was a male advocating for men alot of females would call him a piece of shit. Excuse my language.
I appreciate your longer video responding to this cackling noise. Was driving when I watched it.
Her: In your attempt to advocate for men you tear down women.
Roma: No DYQ for Baby Trappers, Abusers, Manipulators, Spiteful usage of children.
Me: So holding bad behavior accountable is tearing you down? Good to know! Let’s put in a little overtime boys n girls!!
Thank you for what you do. It is greatly appreciated
Tell me she doesn't watch your content without telling me. Keep doing what you do, you're the real one and we love you
Whenever someone says Feminism is for men too, just ask them what issues has Feminism solved that disproportionately affects men. I'm sure they wouldn't be able to answer even in a single one.
I believe there were a lot of men who listened to women speak about equality. Some agreed, some didn’t. So the feminist started yelling. Some still listened, some still didn’t. Someone in the feminist’s gave up yelling at the people who wouldn’t listen. So they started yelling at the ones who were listening and the men went “ We are on your side, why are you yelling at us?!” Then we stoped listening.
Nice to hear ANYONE say they’ve been wrong and are working on it. Let’s all try to do that, and accept it when others do. Maybe we’ll get somewhere