@@izack367 if you're serious, its a Brandon rogers skit that was popular on vine, the one that said "The only thing worse than a rapist? Boom." " _gasp_ a child."
Nah, fuck that. The wife completely disregarded what they spoke to her about and agreed upon prior to the conversation. I understand the frustration and anger, but this isn't about her. This is about a person that has been sexually abused by their parent for 10+ years and potentially has never spoken to anyone about it. The warning signs were there, but nah... She decided to make it all about her and attacked a severely traumatized person for it which probably led to him being stuck in the house of their abuser for another year before finally mustering up the courage to get away from them and talk to OP about it.
@@MarukaiX nah she straight up lashed out and accused him of fucking his mom as if he is just a simple cheater instead of someone who was clearly groomed by his parent. He needed sympathy and understanding in that moment. Her behavior caused him to double down and run right back to his abuser.
@@T3n50rnow be honest you do not know how you would handle the situation if you were the wife and had been through everything that she had been through with her husband. No one has any idea how they would react because this is a sick and twisted situation that entails a lot of manipulation and abuse many different levels
@@atiqahdiyana5665..what? You wish for abuse to happen? edit: yall they edited their damn reply. it was worded wrongly before which made it sound like they wished for it to happen 😭😭
"I am going to keep his secret safe with me" - he says after posting said secret to thousands of people on the internet. I know it's most likely a made up story and if anything this is more proof of that but still, bit of an inconsistancy, don't you think
I get why his wife kind of flipped.. but he was groomed and sexually abused by his mother. And the now-ex wife should have not approached it that way.. even as a stranger looking in from the outside.. I immediately thought "oh he's been groomed and abused for sure.." He was a victim, hands down.. that poor man. His mother deserves to be in jail, being cheated on is NOT a valid excuse to rape your child. And that's what she did. Raped her own kid. Repeatedly. How disgusting 🤢
Yeah, bad. And euvznjjm jzkfkjcjkekdnejjejsjsjejdjrjjdejje dbadbadbad, but you have to remember, intent is important to know. she was drunk when she abused him, meaning that she most likely didn't intend to do so thinking it was the father instead. It wasn't intended.
@channelname9468 I'm definitely not saying he shouldn't be called out.. but try to consider his perspective also.. he's had this abusive mom, who raped him, for years as a kid. He was traumatized and scared. Society already tends to brush off men claiming they were raped. So he was a scared, abused kid. Probably felt he couldn't turn to anybody for help.. partially out of fear of hurting the one abusing him - his own mom.. and instead of coaxing this out of him and saying "if she was taking advantage of you, please tell me" his wife exploded on him..of course he didn't take that well. I'm not saying she's wrong for calling him out.. just that her approach could've been better. As a victim of rape as a kid myself.. I'd NEVER fucking talk to somebody again if the "intervention" went this way with them..
@@KniteWolfe13 she is also a victim, hard to control your emotions in a situation like that. As a grown man he didn’t have to continue, obviously it’s not his fault he was groomed into doing it, but the wife was obviously going to be extremely hurt by this. I’m not saying her approach was ideal, but it was certainly an understandable one and I can’t fault her for it at all. She’s not a bad person nor is she in the wrong for that reaction, her entire life was turned on its head.
Be there and talk to him about it. Just provide support and understanding and the more he talks about it the more he'll be able to work out the mess in his head.
@@ellos2582if your "brother" was abused by his mom would and made you swear to secrecy, would you turn around and post the story to Reddit cause a bunch of strangers want an update? Or would you rather believe it's fake and someone that horrible wouldn't exist.
@@JustSaiyanDude The argument is that you aren't actually spreading what happened about him, since it's all anonymous. It's how alit of people reach out for help when they don't want/can't let others know of their situation.
@@rainynight02 I would still consider that a breach of trust if I was the one telling the story or the one asked to hold the secret. If it ever did come back to the friend (a lot of post do due to traction) I wouldn't want to know what he'd do to his "friend" or himself. Therapy is where you get this out, not Reddit strangers.
This man is a victim but he’s also an abuser. The way he treated his wife is abhorrent, I can’t imagine the emotional abuse she’s suffered/ing. The wife bringing his life down on his head was absolutely warranted and it took all of that for him to leave his mom.
How is the lack of communication HIS fault? How the hell do you even tell your spouse that your MOTHER has been sexually abusing you since your were a child? How can you even blame him for abuse, WHEN THERE ISN'T ANY GOOD WAY TO HANDLE YOUR MOM SEXUALLY ABUSING YOU??? LET ALONE CONFESSING TO YOUR WIFE THAT YOUR MOM HAS BEEN RAPING YOU. SINCE YOU WERE A TEENAGER. He probably felt filthy and unworthy of loving his wife, sexual abuse victims suffer an exorbitant amount of trauma and somehow, you manage to blame him after watching the video in its entirety. It's not his fault whatsoever. Fucking Moron.
Well as much as his wife suffered, he himself suffered twice as much. He had love for his mom, normal love of a son/mother relationship but it was corrupted by his mother grooming him and abusing him. He of course still wants to protect his mother as any son would which also means he protects the person that "hurts" him, the pain isn't violent or mean like mistreating a child though it's weaponized "love" stealing one of the purest and happiest emotions. He has severe mental trauma worse than most would even understand because the abuse isn't pain, anger, violence, or the multitude of other forms of abuse that usually results in a child leaving the moment they're old enough. It's similar to being coddled by a parent, being the golden child, being spoiled. Cruelly love bombed until they can't function normally but it's worse because it's the illegal version of that type of abuse.
Disagree. Her selfish lashing out caused him to double down and run right back to his abuser. The best friend running damage control is what salvaged it. He deserved care and understanding for being GROOMED as a child. Instead the wife made everything about herself.
Yeah but I hate that the mom is still not getting any bad end of the stick She didn't lose her job and just because her marriage was ruined she ruined her sons by Making him into an abuser and constantly manipulating his life from since he was young I know full well the mother constantly said something to the son about his wife And she didn't lose a job or a chance at meeting someone he loves because of her She can sit back at whatever house she has get a pension and cry about how her emotional spouse the child she was suppose to call her son finally left her alone to rot I wish you can file an incest but make it so the son can be excused because in this sense he was sexually abused and groomed right?
being abused like that since youre a kid can really mess your mind up and make you think that weird things are normal or necessary for whatever reason people with these types of experiences tend to be left with mental issues
@@SexManNordinMhm, 100%. Yeah, if you’ve been abused like that it does mess with your mind. He’d still do it because it’s kind of like he can’t escape.
@@fischls5771 no, absolutely not. My opinion would be the same: if she was a girl who was groomed yet still went on holidays with her father and treated her husband terrible, I would still think the same. Don't make me a sexist, I am not.
You really can't hack some things up to weak minds. He was groomed from an early age. He knew it was wrong but he remembered how his mom suffered when dad cheated and left. He wanted to protect her. Yes, he sounds terrible. He could've let his wife know and could've gotten help. Could've completely devastated that child molester, worse her son. But he's so messed up in the head from the person that was supposed to protect him, keep him safe, and teach him about life. I don't blame the wife either. The OP is going to have to give him some tough love at some point, because he may just want to retreat to his 15 year old self before the attack.
Honest title: "Bro was clearly struggling with his relationship with his mother, so I took that personally". All the accusations rather than the possibility he also lived a complex life. OP getting mad at the wife for her outburst even though she suffered so much more than OP. Even when he came clean it was all 'o no, how could I've never seen this coming?' Someone this involved with themselves is the type of people to make this entire story up.
I mean no married adult takes holidays with their mother, they seemed to have a good relationship, they definitely were doing something behind closed doors.
@@iggyzeta9755I never said it was a good thing that he was abused. It's terrible. Then op made no effort to give a safe environment for him to disclose this abuse so op had no business inserting himself into the situation. Taunting and then judging him would only make the friend less likely to look for help because of the compounded shame. If your first reaction to me attacking op is 'that person must think it's okay to return to the spawn point', you're no different from op. You both need to learn that not all sex is willing, and that victims of SA deserve better than your ridicule.
@@o5-193 Unfortunately in my foster family there was abus3 and p3doph*lia. He is probably trauma bonded and very emotionally enmeshed with his mother. Abused children have so many problems with boundaries, where do I as a person start, what is my abuser, shame and guilt. He needs many years of therapy. SA in childhood really screws you up on the inside. He can't just go away. That's not how this works.
if the genders were reversed the Title would have been "My bestfriends dad might be mol3sting her" and the father would have been in prison regardless what the bestfriend wants
No I disagree. A 30 year old wether male or female who is voluntarily going on MONTHLY molestation vacations with a parent is actively participating to a certain degree. This story is fake. That part was just really unrealistic because it makes victims of SA/incest look like total perverts or complete imbeciles. Victims of SA by family members take off at the earliest opportunity (in the real life cases I’ve heard of) it’s common sense. Adults CAN do things to stop the abuse in most cases, may not be easy but it’s a disservice to make excuses for victims of abuse to the point you make it seem like they have no choices at all. In this story, the man clearly has a choice because he chose to marry the wife and go live with her, which the abusive mom didn’t like. Why couldn’t he have moved away to begin with? Cut her off completely? This is what people do with abusive family once they reach adulthood and gain independence. And I’m not saying the fictional guy in this story wasn’t horrifically abused. He was. I’m just saying if a person is continuing such a relationship as an adult, all the way into their 30s, we shouldn’t be so quick to jump to their defense. The relationship may be going both ways to a certain degree… mom is still the abuser tho just to be clear. And I will say it would make sense if he developed incestuous feelings towards his abuser.
Yeah i can see why the guy doesn’t want to press charges - i mean doing so not only would be difficult as he would need proof, but also he would have to relive everything
i really don't think the mom can get excused like that Thats man's life was ruined because of his mother constantly making him some kinda emotional spouse and she also abused him sexually I wish you could still jail people like this even if the kid is all grown up i wish she could still be put in prison And shr could be going around living a normal life while her son currently has lost his job and is now suffering from what she has done to him HE has all the rumors spread about him he doesn't get a pension so he doesn't need to go out in the outside world does she not udnerstand that? She can't excused for being a shit mother just because she was grieving and got a little crazy after her spouse left it makes no sense
This reminds me of the Good Will Hunting movie scenes where Robin Williams reminds him over and over again saying "It's not your fault" It breaks my heart reading this story
His mom should go to jail, but I do think the friend is lying. I think he also liked his mom, with all his comments about how attractive she is, how he never had s*x with the wife, how he went on all those trips, how it took getting discovered and for ex wife to blast him online to stop it. Don't get me wrong, I believe he was groomed and may have some trauma, but his refusal to say something to the police or get therapy or anything at all, I think means he doesn't want to confess he actually pursued that relationship too instead of all of it being his mom. He could even had married the wife only to use her as a cover up. Don't misunderstand, I still think it is mostly his moms fault, and she ruined him, but I believe he probably also did bad stuff and doesn't want to confess that part. Which he should still confess because what he did isn't illegal and taking the circumstances into account it is the moms fauly for making him like that.
imagine it this way, a child got abused and has a mental disorder as a result which stops them from being willing to report their abuser. When a victim protects and praises their abuser, it’s Stockholm Syndrome in full effect.
My mom told me a story about these two sisters she knew. Their dad had been SA' ing them since they were kids. So bad they got a disease that destroyed their ability to reproduce. As adults they would fight about who was "daddy's favorite". You don't have a clue what SA does to the mind so just be quiet. It's ignorant nonsense you're spewing. He was likely conditioned that the relationship he had with his mother was how they showed affection. It was probably the ONLY way she showed him any love or care after the divorce. It leaves a person conflicted and disgusted with themselves. It makes them feel dirty and ashamed.
@@Ready-ForTheEnd Thank you for saying this. I am sick to my stomach with people thinking it must be easy once you're an adult. They don't understand, and they treat it like a reality tv show.
I completely agree with this assessment. In a non judgmental way. Of course a child raised under this kind of abuse will likely develop a twisted kind of attraction. We shouldn’t exactly blame him for that but if he’s an adult in his 30s he should be held accountable and get the help he needs already…. Not go and get married to some innocent party to it. I’d hate to be the ex wife!
Kinda reminds me back around 2015 a friend of mine brought this dude John around who was our age at the time (21) they worked at the same liquor store together along with Johns mother who helped him get a job there, anyways the more we hung out with John the more it comes out that he has a pretty weird relationship with his mom. He admitted that they share a bed together and she’ll sometimes lay next to him watching him play GTA Online for hours, there’s also another time my friend was working a shift with the mom when John was off and she let slip that when she gets changed in the bathroom, or coming out of the shower, she’ll purposely leave the door cracked to let John sneak a peek, there’s also the pictures on Facebook of John and his mom where they seem a little “too” close. He was also extremely awkward around women and never been in a relationship, had sex, or even had his first kiss. Definitely not sure what was up with that dynamic but it was really creepy nonetheless
Well SA of children by family members is much more common than people think, and SA of boys and men is so stigmatized we hear about it even less than when women and girls are the victims. The truth is children are the most vulnerable members of society and literally anyone can create them and therefore have ownership of them. That includes pedophiles. Who can happen to be women. It’s really sad to think a boy who grew up under that situation is too ashamed or confused to get help and cut out the abuser… especially if abuser is “mom” absolutely sickening and sad
The minute he mentioned the situation with his mom, I knew his mom wasn't "normal". No child is like that with their mom like that without some sort of influence from the latter. My heart breaks for the guy's best friend. His life was ruined all because of his mom, and I agree with the Redditor. He needs to get his mom in jail. Her life got ruined, sure, but in the process ruined the life of her own child. That's just not right... :(
Medicaid, hopefully; if not that, community centers and colleges often offer cheap therapy by interns who are still in training and being supervised by full therapists. Students can be very good because they're still engaged with the learning process and have to think about everything thoroughly.
In all Honestly i think OP is getting swindled i can totaly believe he was groomed and forced to belive that was normal but after 20 years and a marriage he has fault of his own, the way OP describes him in the begining is clear the dude is also sexually aroused by his mother. There is no excuse, he went out of his way to be with her with trips and fights, now hes trying to spin the story at his favour, i believe it was consesual incest no doubt. Good job for the wive for leaving him.
maybe you're right but you can't ignore. there is a power dynamic and not to forget his mother also brainwashed/emotionally balckmailed him and its common in rape victims to blame them self and go along with whatever the perpetrator wants from them. talking about him being aroused and from it its natural specially when one is subjected to such extreme type of sexual acts not just men but also females its just that society doesn't like to discuss it when its a female
If OP was getting swindled why? The friends already went no contact and because of the ex wife would already have to restart on life. It makes no sense to leave his mother at his lowest too unless he couldn’t handle the abuse.
@@weirdflex1673 It's obvious friend loves OP and probably his wife too. And it's also very likely based on the evidence that friend had a consensual romantic/sexual relationship with his mom despite knowing how it would affect OP and wife (and had no intention of stopping until caught). Sometimes cheaters/liars feel guilt and want the ppl close to them to forgive them and love them again (even if they only regret getting caught). That is why he might sugar-coat the truth and swindle OP (because he loves OP and does not want to be responsible for his actions).
Yeah he totally liked dating his mom, only came up with the story of abuse after he was exposed to his only friends and lost his wife, ppl forget that incestuous families are out there, they r disgusting but not that rare, only victim here was the poor wife
This doesn't make any sense... he was abused as a teen, okay, couldn't get out of the situation there, I can understand that logic. But once he's an adult and moved out why would he keep going back to his abuser when there was (according to what we've been told) no threat? If it was a "do it or else...." It could be understandable. But this woman abuses him for years and then he doesn't want any harm done to her??? What? He seemed happier after his retreats with his mom according to the wife... I'm thinking more likely dude was into it but hated the accusation, same as in the closet church members hate on gays the hardest only for everyone to finally learn they themselves have been doing all they claimed to have hate and worse. He finally couldn't handle it and snapped. That's my view at the moment.
you really dont know how it is until you are in his shoes. the mom is a narcissist and an abuser. fucking demonic people like that will twist and warp the minds of the people they abuse to believe its normal. One of my friends was molested by their father and still protects him. theres this rlly fucked up part of my family. their dad (my great uncle) is abusive towards his wife in every way possible yet she doesnt admit to the abuse. some people have weaker minds and cannot escape the abuse. they are trauma bonded to the abuser like this situation. abuse completely warps your perception of everything and the world
and when abuse especially sexual abuse is frequent eventually the manipulation and the repeated abuse will trick the victim into thinking they like it. its awful and even though he “seemed” happier he was not. that was a false sense of happiness. Some people should never of been parents
Its how it works. Abuse victims stay for so many reasons. The abuse itself severely traumatizes the victim, destroys their self esteem, self respect, causes depression and anxiety. The abusers use this again the victims. Abuse victims often blame themselves, thinking its their fault, which is also backed up by the abusers. The convince themselves that they deserved it. They tend to be very embarrassed about what is happening and don't want others to find, because for some reason, for them, that feels more important to them than ending the abuse itself. That shame, the constant, underlying pain of what is happening changes you. You begin to avoid things that would make it worse in your mind. All the while, the abuser is reinforcing all of these conflicts, emotions, and fear within you to keep you in their control. Finally, there is confusion. When it happened to me, I was 12. I desperately wanted friends, I was bullied a lot because I was awkward and girly and my ADHD made things difficult a lot. Someone did that to me. They SAd me. I didnt know thats what it was, I knew it was wrong, but they had me convinced it was ok, that people do that kind of thing all the time. Then I had questions in myself, I often thought to myself "well he loves me i guess" or "I must have done something that made him thing it was ok". He often said I must have enjoyed it because of the way my body reacted to the physical sensations. I died. I fell into a massive depression. Id cry because of immense stress but I always did it out of sight, if anyone asked, I would just say someone was bullying me or something, because hell, everyone was used to that anyways and nobody really cared. Finally he lost interest in me. The shitty thing is, I was a boy and I liked other boys. I didnt get it at the time, I didnt think of it as being 'gay', but I knew I liked other guys my age. There were a couple guys I really liked, not my abuser though. Not like that. But he was nice. I got to go to his house. He genuinely wanted to be my friend. And then when he had the opportunity to have me alone at a stayover without his parents present...it started. It stopped after he seemed to lose interest, after several months. But whenever he wanted me to come over, I would. Id try to make some sort of weak excuse to not do so, but he would always convince me or my mom that i would have fun. I would always think it would be different and hed just want to hang out and play games or something. But it was never just being friends and playing games. It was him being charming at first, then demanding when I would try to shrug off his attempts to do things to me until I would relent. He would threaten me, threaten to out me as a 'gay' person. Thats how I first learned the significance of what that meant, not that I didnt understand the term before, but I knew the bullying would increase 10 fold. I thought about telling the police, but because of previous experience I had with them, I knew they wouldnt believe me anyways, my abuser knew that too and made sure he told me that over and over. I never told my mom because I was worried she would blame me for it, I reason to feel that way. I told no one until I was 15. I started drinking a lot, so much drinking, became known as a partier. I told someone, a stranger, no idea who they were but I only told him because he was the last one awake at 6am when I was still drinking. He was probably in his late 20s and I broke down and said everything about it. He was so concerned, so very understanding. Im usually incredibly cautious at that point but the alcohol made it so I wasn't paying attention. He began to ask me questions about the details of my abuse, details I felt one would only want if there was a sinister interest in knowing how a 12 year old boy was abused by another boy. I thankfully was able to extract myself from that situation. As I got into my high school years up until I was 18, I stopped caring about everything except for partying. I started having an intense interest in guys my own age and would often do things with them at parties kinda without thought or care. Always in secret, but I would never let anyone have control, I couldnt, I was too scared and all I could ever do was feel shame for it. By the time I hit 18 I had associated my like for guys with my SA and abuse. So all I could think of was that I was broken by what happened to me, that my SA made me like boys and every time it happened, I felt so ashamed that I wanted to die the next day. So I spent the next near decade denying the fact that I liked guys, whenever the urge came up and felt attracted to someone who was male, I felt disgusted, I felt like a piece of crap. I didnt tell anyone about what happened to me until 2 years ago. Something happened. I had tried to kill myself so many times but never succeeded. But someone, through an unrelated incident, called me a rape apologist. I snapped, I finally just put my whole ordeal up on Twitter, I was so tired, I was so damn tired of having it in me, of not being able to just be me, of feeling like an awful person. For some reason, that changed my life. It wasnt the support that I got, it wasn't that I even told my story, though thats part of it. What I think it really was, was that when I saw everything I had written down and posted about what happened to me, suddenly everything became incredibly clear. I realized all that time I had been blaming myself. I had been denying who I was inside because of the negative association I had. That my shame was not my shame. I could look at it logically, with the mind of adult who had been through so much stuff and had much more experience with life and who wasn't burdened with being a child. I realized I could be me and that I dont have to be ashamed of myself anymore. It was a miracle. Because I am the exception I feel, not the rule. I still require years of therapy. But I am much happier and it feels nice to not want to constantly unalive myself. My abuse thankfully stopped after only some months worth of time. The OPs friends...never did. If a little less than a year of abuse as a child almost ended me and destroyed a good chunk of my life...imagine what it did to this guy where it lasted for literal years. If you havent suffered abuse, you just cant put yourself in the same position or mindset of the victim. Its impossible. It changes your brain. Even now I still have a ton of anxiety. I have a hard time trusting or allowing someone else to be in control. Even of driving a car with me in it. My life is ruined and I will never see my full potential, but its at least a little better now. I dont want you to be abused. I dont want anyone to be abused. Its good that you dont fundamentally understand what makes and abuse victim stay, Im so very glad that you dont. But please, at least understand, that there is something there that you can't possibly know and make it out the other side intact, whole. Please just help those that do understand, because they need the help. They need people who care what happens to them. Or maybe they will be forever lost.
Seriously had a girl who's daughter was in a adult relationship with her best friend and abuse. It was so sad because obviously this abuse started at a young age
He shouldn't have gotten married if he was unwilling to stand up for his wife. If he really loved that woman he should have gotten his head right before marrying her. Mental illness often effects everyone in the house, and in this case it very clearly has.
I can't stand the best friends wife. If it was a girl who was groomed by her father there would have been so many tears shed for her but what does the wife do? Just outright attacks him and accuses him of sleeping with his mom like he WANTS to. He's been a victim since he was A BOY. His mom needs to be put in prison. She should have WANTED to help her husband and get justice for him.
Yeah, it's just so sick, and there are people in the comments blasting the husband when they should be blasting his predator sick and twisted mother. He can't even have normal relationships with women because his mother will always drag him back to her.
I think it's because ofthe abuse and continuing contact with the mother. The wife got be little by the mother and her husband when he went off with mom. He choose to be with his abuser, and ultimately I think the wife blowing up to him and leaving stong armed him into being honest and cutting contact from mom. Because when he was with thw wife he wasn't with his abuser 24/7. When you are not with the abuser constantlyand sometimes with the abuser you can rationalize it's not that bad or mistaken and feel even deep love for the abuser. Plus the wife needed to protect herself from the emotional abuse from the mother abd husband.
Ngl feel bad for the friend's ex wife. Even if he was abused by his mom that doesn't give him the right to treat his partner poorly. If he had spoken to his wife instead of abusing her then he could've gotten away from his mom and the whole thing more than likely wouldn't have escalated. Not to mention he was clearly sexually aroused by his mother at some point so it was likely consensual incest.
@@TaoT-T he didn't abuse her, he was fucked up in every sense so you can't expect normal behavior from a person who suffered sexual abuse as a child BY THEIR OWN PARENTS
>sexual abuse >15yo >calls his mother hot Are you stupid? He liked his mom, that wasn’t abuse. He made up that bullshit story after he lost everything to garner sympathy and have a chance back at life.
Your friend was clearly groomed he needs help and you and the now ex-wife should have seen this and now that the wife is gone he will just be pushed into his abusive mom's arms
This woman should literally be sent to jail, but I'd respect the friend's wishes.But, if he ever comes forward with more information, I'd try to convince him to go to the police and see if she could still be arrested for sexual abuse/rape (story never said it stopped until March so I assume it was happening during adulthood too).
My two cents on "how to move forward" in a Situation like this: when you have to deal with being homeless, jobless, and severe trauma, it can be good to take things one at a time. Help him get back on his feet, get a stable base for his life, then press the isdue once this stuff has been taken care off. These kinds of things cant be addressed in a day, and when your life is just a mountain of shit, you have to clean it up one wheelbarrow at a time.
Bruh how she marry a dude that doesn’t f her, doesn’t do things with her, doesn’t compliment or talk. And then she suspects he has cours with his mother, BUT SHE STILL STAYS. Furthermore, after all of this, she doesn’t even approach him with understanding, but rather anger????
There's no way of understanding to approach this situation if you were in her situation and you're husband did that wouldn't you be angry? I mean don't get me wrong she was dumb for staying but I can't blame her for like being angry about it
The irony is tough, his wife saved him from ending himself yet ruined his life because he hid the truth. Gonna be real it's his own fault. If he told the truth he might've saved his marriage, got his mother arrested and his life would be intact. I don't blame the ex for making that assumption either, I did just like almost everyone else here.
I think we can all agree friend's ex is the bad guy of the story (as well as friend's mom) as she completely ruined any chance of friend getting help and ruined friend's life.
Nope. Friend's ex was a victim of emotional abuse as well and she deserved to have her feelings known and get out of a toxic situation for her own good. Like everyone's said, you can't force someone to get help and you need to save yourself before going down with others.
She handled it poorly but I really can’t blame her. Imagine suspecting your husband of cheating, just to find out it was with his MOM. That’s literally traumatizing, even if he was groomed. He seemed like an active participant at that point cause he was like 30… 😬
I heard a story about a guy who had a sexual relationship with his mom for her whole life he was getting bjs into his 30s he's kinda f'd up in the head
I feel bad for the friend and yhe ex wife was wrong for being aggressive but she wasn't wrong for divorcing him. No matter your past, eventually you become an adult and have to take responsibility for your actions and no matter how you look at it, he voluntarily had sex with his mother. He even denied everything and turned it around on them, accusing them for thinking that he did have sex with his mom (which he did).
It’s easy to judge but I have no idea what it’s like to get molested by your own mother for so long…it’s bad enough if it’s a family friend, but your own parent? At very least she went too far in posting all that online, that serves no one.
More disgusting than the abuse the guy went through are the comments blaiming him and saying that he is as guilty. Yeah, when you´re a man you are always in the wrong. If we are ALWAYS wrong, there is no reason to do even care about doing the right thing. We men should just go berserker mod.
@@Justicar2503 except,, he didnt need help. he did request the OP to butt out, and it was only after everything blew up that he needed help. too late, i say.
Could only make it halfway through. The broken english and bizarre play-by-play and values placement makes this sound like a total asspull work of fiction, or the person writing it has next to no empaty. Ugh
You know to make this a little easier to listen to you could probably correct spelling errors and grammar before you just copy and paste this into text to speech
I honestly don't understand why he didn't cut the relationship his mom at the beginning or atleast after his marriage and continued to be with her willingly...
yep, being molested is bad. Still regarding his school jokes, he got into it. It may be a brainwashing, maybe not, but he clearly had something with his mother even after a marriage. really? Do people really believe that what he has done while being married correlate with his speech about his wife getting him out of this abusive relationship? It seems that he just got his life ruined, and now he wants support when everyone got mad at him and op was the easiest target for that. And wife clearly wasn't lying, as he tends to say. Even when he got confronted, and he got a chance to change his life, he still chose his mommy over everyone else.
Well from his perspective all of his friends and wife attacked him personally. All he had left was to go to his mom because everyone else was against him. Also if he was fully willing in his mothers advances then why leave her. If he was trying to manipulate his friend then there is no reason for him to leave his mom. Hell OP started the conversation with I sorry for saying those things you would never do that. Why would the friend out himself if OP would have just pushed it under the rug. I think the friends was so willing to do what his mom said because he was so used to her control over him. Over controlling mothers can already cause strains in marriage without the years of sexual abuse.
@@weirdflex1673 nobody know if he dumped his mother. He may just be broken from other's bashing. This may be a problematic thing as it's a one-sided story, so everything may be a lie. And I have never heard of children clinging to their overcontrolling parents not out of fear, as this causes mostly enmity. Like "Hey, I got molested in childhood by my mother multiple times, so I would go on every holiday trip with this exact mother" is too unlikely situation to happen. There were a situation of some woman getting married and giving bj to her uncle/father on the wedding because "otherwise he won't give me a house". Later it was revealed that she got molested by that parent, and they just continued doing it, even when she got older and moved out. People may be just strange, so I just accepted the fact that I shouldn't try to find reasoning of someone's actions.
He dated his mom his whole life, he only came up with this story because he was exposed and lost everything, and buddy was so mad at his friends wife and blaming her for making him losing his pal sounds like he wanted that kind of love too, L for all of them, only victim here is the wife.
So, he was f*ing his mon but not his wife. He may have been abused for a while, but you’re gonna tell me he had a wife at home, he was not intimate with her, he went regularly on vacations with his mom who abused him and it was against his will? Give me a break, he did it and he enjoyed it. You’re gonna tell me he stormed out his house after his wife confronted him and the second he walked out the door he called his mom, the abuser to come pick him up, console and protect him?
You should take male victims more seriously, he was groomed and he couldn’t break out of his mom’s control. He may have “enjoyed” it, but the brain was protecting him from further trauma by getting aroused physically.
@@Jesus-wh4smI agree with you, the "enjoed it" concept isn't true. Some rape victims even felt an orgasm during the act because their brain wants to protect them. Maybe the man in this story is simply traumatized and he doesn't want to sleep with his wife
@@hearts4tzuyu.There was clearly enjoyment on his part, constantly comparing other women to his mother’s body, seeking his abuser for comfort, etc. Unfortunately that’s why sexual abuse from a family member is so complex. But the person I feel for the most is his wife, there’s no excuse for the way he treated her.
It really pisses me off when people are being abused in any way, & deciding not to tell anyone. Especially if they have a really good time to do so, like at that mock intervention. Why not tell your best friend about the abuse? Why not tell everyone at the mock intervention? Why? WHY? I’m just really angry at OP’s best friend for not telling anyone that was going on. Seriously, what was so hard about telling anyone? Was it too hard to? Even if it’s hard to tell someone (I don’t understand how though), you should know that it would be better for you & probably the rest of the world if you told other people about it. If you (for some reason) want to protect the person abusing you, like in this situation, only tell people you trust not to tell anyone. Yes, he did that, but why did it take so long for him to do so? Not to mention, why was he responding to his Mother’s calls to her house if he know what was going to happen? Did he like it? I assume & hope not. You don’t have to listen to her just because she’s your mother, y’know. I could go on, but this is turning into a rant.
he was abused, r*ped, and groomed by his own mother, for god knows how long. this isnt just some guy who had a slightly uncomfy experience. this type of abuse can make a person not know what reality is anymore... it could make it so anytime anyone raises their voice at him, he believes they are his mother. she couldve twisted his understanding of reality so badly, that he thinks admitting the truth would hurt his mom, and that itd be his fault, and that he would view himself as just as bad as his dad.
@@thefrostbee4182 Yes, I understand that fully. However, even if you feel as if you are doing the wrong thing, you (hopefully) know deep down that you are being wronged as well & should do something about it. That exactly is what upsets me: Not doing something about a situation you don’t want to be in, no matter how you feel about the repercussions. I realize I didn’t seem very apologetic in the initial comment, so I’ll give my condolences here. I’m so sorry that he had to go through such abuse from his mother & feel like garbage the whole way. No one deserves to go through such horrors as those, & anyone who does should seek help to cope with said experiences. His mother is indeed an awful person, especially with emotionally abusing & manipulating him. I really hope he is doing better now.
@@Riltea well, as a person who has also been through abuse myself, its alot more complicated. also, thank u for being respectful. He did know it was bad, and he was looking for ways to do something about it. sadly, in those situations, its very difficult to understand what to do. him contemplating s*icide is proof that he was looking for a way out. Like, i assume youve heard of Stockholm syndrome? to most people, its just ''woah ppl are so crazy and delusional for falling in love with their hostage taker!''. but in reality, stockholm syndrome got the name, because hostages did not trust the police's shoddy rescue attempts, not properly caring for their safe escape, which lead the hostages to stay. Theres probably alot we arent seeing. mby he has a chronic illness, and needs his moms healthcare, and if he leaves, he loses the healthcare temporarily, which would cause awful effects. orrr, she promised to take her own life if he left, and leave fake clues pointing the cops to him as the suspect. theres so much we dont know
@@thefrostbee4182 I’m sorry you had to go through whatever abuse experienced, I do hope that you are doing better now. I hadn’t thought about him not knowing what he could do, I should have been more considerate. My apologies. Yeah, I know about Stockholm Syndrome, & I regularly joke about how I’m very susceptible to it as I typically end up really liking things that I used to hate for no reason. Sorry if that comes off as insensitive. I just don’t really think about certain things in certain situations, & realize that that’s a flaw of mine. I try to be as understanding & open-minded as possible, but still end up disregarding important matters from time to time. Again, I very sincerely apologize.
So.... strictly speaking, he was still cheating on his wife. I mean, sure, he was victimized ever since a child and that has continued into his adult years. But an affair is an affair. And he still has yet admitted to it. I am trying to feel sorry for him, but he is a god damn adult now who has moved out of his mother's house, lives with his new wife, and has the support of friends as well. He just needed to tell the truth and get help. Instead he got angry and ran to mom...
@@farhanishraqifti1489 and that means he can do whatever he wants? What don't you understand about: he's an adult now that's moved out of his mother's house and is living with his wife now
@@DavidJohnsonFromSeattle Thats just not how it works dude.I'm not saying that he doesn't have to get over his trauma because he definitely has to. But you can't just ignore the effects of years of grooming.Simply put your being too harsh on him. Would you say the same thing if it was a girl being groomed by her dad and say that because shes an adult now you will consider it as just she cheating on her husband? Assuming you do hold both scenarios to the same level of harshness as I said your being too harsh.Hes a victim that never got any help and when his wife and friend learned about it his wife basically started confronting him like his mother did nothing wrong and nothing wrong happened to him.Hes a victim and he needs sympathy and care.
@@farhanishraqifti1489I don't know how I can say this anymore clearly. You don't get a free pass on victimizing other people just because someone else hurt you. What he did was wrong and inexcusable. Full stop. I feel real bad for him but the fucking cycle has to end and he doesn't deserve pity over what he did to his wife.
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In the wise words of Brandon Rogers "The only thing worst than a rapist, is a child rapist"
_gasp_
a child!
wait do u mean ped0 or do u mean a child that is rap!st?
@@izack367 if you're serious, its a Brandon rogers skit that was popular on vine, the one that said "The only thing worse than a rapist? Boom."
" _gasp_ a child."
a child
@@WillowBlack888 lol i was joking
Yeah I wouldn’t blame the wife for exploding considering and I’d be way more concerned about getting help for the friend than “losing a friend”
Nah, fuck that. The wife completely disregarded what they spoke to her about and agreed upon prior to the conversation. I understand the frustration and anger, but this isn't about her. This is about a person that has been sexually abused by their parent for 10+ years and potentially has never spoken to anyone about it. The warning signs were there, but nah... She decided to make it all about her and attacked a severely traumatized person for it which probably led to him being stuck in the house of their abuser for another year before finally mustering up the courage to get away from them and talk to OP about it.
@@T3n50ryou need to remember at the beginning they didn't know about the sexual abuse
Though the wife shouldn't have lashed out
@@MarukaiX They had suspicions about it so a bit of sensibility is to be expected when that would be the topic and reason for sitting down with him.
@@MarukaiX nah she straight up lashed out and accused him of fucking his mom as if he is just a simple cheater instead of someone who was clearly groomed by his parent. He needed sympathy and understanding in that moment. Her behavior caused him to double down and run right back to his abuser.
@@T3n50rnow be honest you do not know how you would handle the situation if you were the wife and had been through everything that she had been through with her husband.
No one has any idea how they would react because this is a sick and twisted situation that entails a lot of manipulation and abuse many different levels
Abuse is abuse. If it had been a father abusing his daughter opinions would be much different. ,,,,,, DOUBLE STANDARDS !
I totally agree!!! We are a sick society to think it’s okay for a guy to be raped by his mother! SICK!!!
I wish society is more aware of maternal sexual abuse
@@atiqahdiyana5665..what? You wish for abuse to happen?
edit: yall they edited their damn reply. it was worded wrongly before which made it sound like they wished for it to happen 😭😭
@@TamWam_ no??? they want people to be aware of an existing issue
There was this case and no double standards were shown. Everyone supported the man. You don't get to destroy a life just because yours was destroyed.
"I am going to keep his secret safe with me" - he says after posting said secret to thousands of people on the internet.
I know it's most likely a made up story and if anything this is more proof of that but still, bit of an inconsistancy, don't you think
It is still a secret.
well it is a reddit story. 80% chance its fake.
I get why his wife kind of flipped.. but he was groomed and sexually abused by his mother. And the now-ex wife should have not approached it that way.. even as a stranger looking in from the outside.. I immediately thought "oh he's been groomed and abused for sure.."
He was a victim, hands down.. that poor man. His mother deserves to be in jail, being cheated on is NOT a valid excuse to rape your child. And that's what she did. Raped her own kid. Repeatedly. How disgusting 🤢
If my wife were the type to rape my child, I would divorce her too. Too bad the divorce courts automatically give custody to the mom.
Yeah, bad. And euvznjjm jzkfkjcjkekdnejjejsjsjejdjrjjdejje dbadbadbad, but you have to remember, intent is important to know. she was drunk when she abused him, meaning that she most likely didn't intend to do so thinking it was the father instead. It wasn't intended.
I think the wife’s reaction was valid tbh but yeah the guy is a victim. Doesn’t mean he’s not also an abuser 🤷♂️ it’s a cycle, abuse creates abusers
@channelname9468 I'm definitely not saying he shouldn't be called out.. but try to consider his perspective also.. he's had this abusive mom, who raped him, for years as a kid. He was traumatized and scared. Society already tends to brush off men claiming they were raped. So he was a scared, abused kid. Probably felt he couldn't turn to anybody for help.. partially out of fear of hurting the one abusing him - his own mom.. and instead of coaxing this out of him and saying "if she was taking advantage of you, please tell me" his wife exploded on him..of course he didn't take that well. I'm not saying she's wrong for calling him out.. just that her approach could've been better. As a victim of rape as a kid myself.. I'd NEVER fucking talk to somebody again if the "intervention" went this way with them..
@@KniteWolfe13 she is also a victim, hard to control your emotions in a situation like that. As a grown man he didn’t have to continue, obviously it’s not his fault he was groomed into doing it, but the wife was obviously going to be extremely hurt by this. I’m not saying her approach was ideal, but it was certainly an understandable one and I can’t fault her for it at all. She’s not a bad person nor is she in the wrong for that reaction, her entire life was turned on its head.
Losing a bit more of hope in humanity every day.
Seriously 😑
Don’t there’s lots of good people
@@jaywhy7150too bad
@@IHateAmer1caLol, how is that too bad?
This comment section is crushing the last bit of hope I have for humanity.
Be there and talk to him about it. Just provide support and understanding and the more he talks about it the more he'll be able to work out the mess in his head.
Pls dont spread any of this
Proceeds to make a reddit thread
That’s how you know it’s all fake
@@RayFog1that doesn't make sense 💀
@@ellos2582if your "brother" was abused by his mom would and made you swear to secrecy, would you turn around and post the story to Reddit cause a bunch of strangers want an update? Or would you rather believe it's fake and someone that horrible wouldn't exist.
@@JustSaiyanDude
The argument is that you aren't actually spreading what happened about him, since it's all anonymous.
It's how alit of people reach out for help when they don't want/can't let others know of their situation.
@@rainynight02 I would still consider that a breach of trust if I was the one telling the story or the one asked to hold the secret. If it ever did come back to the friend (a lot of post do due to traction) I wouldn't want to know what he'd do to his "friend" or himself. Therapy is where you get this out, not Reddit strangers.
Ngl he should've just left it. This guy is not really reasonable. I think the mum groomed him. Its fucked up.
It's w/e white people are weird but at least his mom will never betray him.
@@ZedBeiFengwhat the hell?
@@crawdad6354 this would only happen in a white household.
@@crawdad6354 yeah no one else really doing incest let's be for real.
@iijustafriendd nah muslims do it all the time. Half of the families of Moslims are inbred. Sweet home Alahambra.
This man is a victim but he’s also an abuser. The way he treated his wife is abhorrent, I can’t imagine the emotional abuse she’s suffered/ing. The wife bringing his life down on his head was absolutely warranted and it took all of that for him to leave his mom.
How is the lack of communication HIS fault? How the hell do you even tell your spouse that your MOTHER has been sexually abusing you since your were a child? How can you even blame him for abuse, WHEN THERE ISN'T ANY GOOD WAY TO HANDLE YOUR MOM SEXUALLY ABUSING YOU??? LET ALONE CONFESSING TO YOUR WIFE THAT YOUR MOM HAS BEEN RAPING YOU. SINCE YOU WERE A TEENAGER.
He probably felt filthy and unworthy of loving his wife, sexual abuse victims suffer an exorbitant amount of trauma and somehow, you manage to blame him after watching the video in its entirety.
It's not his fault whatsoever.
Fucking Moron.
victims spawn abuse, and abuse spawns victims. A shitty cycle only ended when both are completely separated by external forces.
Well as much as his wife suffered, he himself suffered twice as much. He had love for his mom, normal love of a son/mother relationship but it was corrupted by his mother grooming him and abusing him. He of course still wants to protect his mother as any son would which also means he protects the person that "hurts" him, the pain isn't violent or mean like mistreating a child though it's weaponized "love" stealing one of the purest and happiest emotions. He has severe mental trauma worse than most would even understand because the abuse isn't pain, anger, violence, or the multitude of other forms of abuse that usually results in a child leaving the moment they're old enough. It's similar to being coddled by a parent, being the golden child, being spoiled. Cruelly love bombed until they can't function normally but it's worse because it's the illegal version of that type of abuse.
Disagree. Her selfish lashing out caused him to double down and run right back to his abuser. The best friend running damage control is what salvaged it. He deserved care and understanding for being GROOMED as a child. Instead the wife made everything about herself.
Yeah but I hate that the mom is still not getting any bad end of the stick
She didn't lose her job and just because her marriage was ruined she ruined her sons by Making him into an abuser and constantly manipulating his life from since he was young
I know full well the mother constantly said something to the son about his wife
And she didn't lose a job or a chance at meeting someone he loves because of her
She can sit back at whatever house she has get a pension and cry about how her emotional spouse the child she was suppose to call her son finally left her alone to rot
I wish you can file an incest but make it so the son can be excused because in this sense he was sexually abused and groomed right?
He may have been groomed, but he still trated his wife horribly. And he went on holidays with his mom every month, even if he was a married adult.
being abused like that since youre a kid can really mess your mind up and make you think that weird things are normal or necessary for whatever reason people with these types of experiences tend to be left with mental issues
@@SexManNordinMhm, 100%. Yeah, if you’ve been abused like that it does mess with your mind. He’d still do it because it’s kind of like he can’t escape.
@@SexManNordinyeah it probably would've helped if his wife confronted him earlier on when she didn't have so much built up anger
Now reverse the roles and you will have different opinions 🙄
@@fischls5771 no, absolutely not. My opinion would be the same: if she was a girl who was groomed yet still went on holidays with her father and treated her husband terrible, I would still think the same. Don't make me a sexist, I am not.
You really can't hack some things up to weak minds. He was groomed from an early age. He knew it was wrong but he remembered how his mom suffered when dad cheated and left. He wanted to protect her. Yes, he sounds terrible. He could've let his wife know and could've gotten help. Could've completely devastated that child molester, worse her son. But he's so messed up in the head from the person that was supposed to protect him, keep him safe, and teach him about life. I don't blame the wife either. The OP is going to have to give him some tough love at some point, because he may just want to retreat to his 15 year old self before the attack.
Honest title: "Bro was clearly struggling with his relationship with his mother, so I took that personally". All the accusations rather than the possibility he also lived a complex life. OP getting mad at the wife for her outburst even though she suffered so much more than OP. Even when he came clean it was all 'o no, how could I've never seen this coming?' Someone this involved with themselves is the type of people to make this entire story up.
I sense you're also very oedipal.
I mean no married adult takes holidays with their mother, they seemed to have a good relationship, they definitely were doing something behind closed doors.
@@iggyzeta9755I never said it was a good thing that he was abused. It's terrible. Then op made no effort to give a safe environment for him to disclose this abuse so op had no business inserting himself into the situation. Taunting and then judging him would only make the friend less likely to look for help because of the compounded shame.
If your first reaction to me attacking op is 'that person must think it's okay to return to the spawn point', you're no different from op. You both need to learn that not all sex is willing, and that victims of SA deserve better than your ridicule.
@@deldareltrue but he's a grown man now plus how do you think the
Wife feelsl?
@@o5-193 Unfortunately in my foster family there was abus3 and p3doph*lia. He is probably trauma bonded and very emotionally enmeshed with his mother. Abused children have so many problems with boundaries, where do I as a person start, what is my abuser, shame and guilt. He needs many years of therapy. SA in childhood really screws you up on the inside. He can't just go away. That's not how this works.
bro really said "grr..."
if the genders were reversed the Title would have been "My bestfriends dad might be mol3sting her"
and the father would have been in prison regardless what the bestfriend wants
and the wife (which would be the husband in your example) wouldn't have gotten so much sympathy in these comments.
No I disagree. A 30 year old wether male or female who is voluntarily going on MONTHLY molestation vacations with a parent is actively participating to a certain degree.
This story is fake. That part was just really unrealistic because it makes victims of SA/incest look like total perverts or complete imbeciles. Victims of SA by family members take off at the earliest opportunity (in the real life cases I’ve heard of) it’s common sense. Adults CAN do things to stop the abuse in most cases, may not be easy but it’s a disservice to make excuses for victims of abuse to the point you make it seem like they have no choices at all. In this story, the man clearly has a choice because he chose to marry the wife and go live with her, which the abusive mom didn’t like. Why couldn’t he have moved away to begin with? Cut her off completely? This is what people do with abusive family once they reach adulthood and gain independence.
And I’m not saying the fictional guy in this story wasn’t horrifically abused. He was. I’m just saying if a person is continuing such a relationship as an adult, all the way into their 30s, we shouldn’t be so quick to jump to their defense. The relationship may be going both ways to a certain degree… mom is still the abuser tho just to be clear. And I will say it would make sense if he developed incestuous feelings towards his abuser.
Yeah i can see why the guy doesn’t want to press charges - i mean doing so not only would be difficult as he would need proof, but also he would have to relive everything
i really don't think the mom can get excused like that
Thats man's life was ruined because of his mother constantly making him some kinda emotional spouse and she also abused him sexually
I wish you could still jail people like this even if the kid is all grown up i wish she could still be put in prison
And shr could be going around living a normal life while her son currently has lost his job and is now suffering from what she has done to him HE has all the rumors spread about him he doesn't get a pension so he doesn't need to go out in the outside world does she not udnerstand that?
She can't excused for being a shit mother just because she was grieving and got a little crazy after her spouse left it makes no sense
This reminds me of the Good Will Hunting movie scenes where Robin Williams reminds him over and over again saying "It's not your fault"
It breaks my heart reading this story
Promise not to tell anyone. Tells everyone.
He was definitely groomed. Emotional incest is shockingly common. Physical incest is less common, but it definitely happens. 😢
I'd rather lose the friendship than have my friend's abuser walk free.
His mom should go to jail, but I do think the friend is lying. I think he also liked his mom, with all his comments about how attractive she is, how he never had s*x with the wife, how he went on all those trips, how it took getting discovered and for ex wife to blast him online to stop it. Don't get me wrong, I believe he was groomed and may have some trauma, but his refusal to say something to the police or get therapy or anything at all, I think means he doesn't want to confess he actually pursued that relationship too instead of all of it being his mom. He could even had married the wife only to use her as a cover up.
Don't misunderstand, I still think it is mostly his moms fault, and she ruined him, but I believe he probably also did bad stuff and doesn't want to confess that part. Which he should still confess because what he did isn't illegal and taking the circumstances into account it is the moms fauly for making him like that.
imagine it this way, a child got abused and has a mental disorder as a result which stops them from being willing to report their abuser. When a victim protects and praises their abuser, it’s Stockholm Syndrome in full effect.
@@boom-jr8vi I agree, that is part of what may be happening to him.
My mom told me a story about these two sisters she knew. Their dad had been SA' ing them since they were kids. So bad they got a disease that destroyed their ability to reproduce. As adults they would fight about who was "daddy's favorite". You don't have a clue what SA does to the mind so just be quiet. It's ignorant nonsense you're spewing. He was likely conditioned that the relationship he had with his mother was how they showed affection. It was probably the ONLY way she showed him any love or care after the divorce. It leaves a person conflicted and disgusted with themselves. It makes them feel dirty and ashamed.
@@Ready-ForTheEnd Thank you for saying this. I am sick to my stomach with people thinking it must be easy once you're an adult. They don't understand, and they treat it like a reality tv show.
I completely agree with this assessment. In a non judgmental way. Of course a child raised under this kind of abuse will likely develop a twisted kind of attraction. We shouldn’t exactly blame him for that but if he’s an adult in his 30s he should be held accountable and get the help he needs already…. Not go and get married to some innocent party to it. I’d hate to be the ex wife!
Yeah that is grooming
Kinda reminds me back around 2015 a friend of mine brought this dude John around who was our age at the time (21) they worked at the same liquor store together along with Johns mother who helped him get a job there, anyways the more we hung out with John the more it comes out that he has a pretty weird relationship with his mom. He admitted that they share a bed together and she’ll sometimes lay next to him watching him play GTA Online for hours, there’s also another time my friend was working a shift with the mom when John was off and she let slip that when she gets changed in the bathroom, or coming out of the shower, she’ll purposely leave the door cracked to let John sneak a peek, there’s also the pictures on Facebook of John and his mom where they seem a little “too” close. He was also extremely awkward around women and never been in a relationship, had sex, or even had his first kiss. Definitely not sure what was up with that dynamic but it was really creepy nonetheless
@Whitepowerslim341 bro please reach out to him. Please.
Well SA of children by family members is much more common than people think, and SA of boys and men is so stigmatized we hear about it even less than when women and girls are the victims. The truth is children are the most vulnerable members of society and literally anyone can create them and therefore have ownership of them. That includes pedophiles. Who can happen to be women. It’s really sad to think a boy who grew up under that situation is too ashamed or confused to get help and cut out the abuser… especially if abuser is “mom” absolutely sickening and sad
Put his story online man make a video come on
*"You're better than your father"*
The minute he mentioned the situation with his mom, I knew his mom wasn't "normal". No child is like that with their mom like that without some sort of influence from the latter. My heart breaks for the guy's best friend. His life was ruined all because of his mom, and I agree with the Redditor. He needs to get his mom in jail. Her life got ruined, sure, but in the process ruined the life of her own child. That's just not right... :(
How's he supposed to pay for therapy without a job?
Medicaid, hopefully; if not that, community centers and colleges often offer cheap therapy by interns who are still in training and being supervised by full therapists. Students can be very good because they're still engaged with the learning process and have to think about everything thoroughly.
In all Honestly i think OP is getting swindled i can totaly believe he was groomed and forced to belive that was normal but after 20 years and a marriage he has fault of his own, the way OP describes him in the begining is clear the dude is also sexually aroused by his mother. There is no excuse, he went out of his way to be with her with trips and fights, now hes trying to spin the story at his favour, i believe it was consesual incest no doubt. Good job for the wive for leaving him.
maybe you're right but you can't ignore. there is a power dynamic and not to forget his mother also brainwashed/emotionally balckmailed him
and its common in rape victims to blame them self and go along with whatever the perpetrator wants from them. talking about him being aroused and from it
its natural specially when one is subjected to such extreme type of sexual acts not just men but also females its just that society doesn't like to discuss it when its a female
If OP was getting swindled why? The friends already went no contact and because of the ex wife would already have to restart on life. It makes no sense to leave his mother at his lowest too unless he couldn’t handle the abuse.
@@weirdflex1673 It's obvious friend loves OP and probably his wife too. And it's also very likely based on the evidence that friend had a consensual romantic/sexual relationship with his mom despite knowing how it would affect OP and wife (and had no intention of stopping until caught). Sometimes cheaters/liars feel guilt and want the ppl close to them to forgive them and love them again (even if they only regret getting caught). That is why he might sugar-coat the truth and swindle OP (because he loves OP and does not want to be responsible for his actions).
'consensual incest' what the fuck are you talking about?
Yeah he totally liked dating his mom, only came up with the story of abuse after he was exposed to his only friends and lost his wife, ppl forget that incestuous families are out there, they r disgusting but not that rare, only victim here was the poor wife
This doesn't make any sense... he was abused as a teen, okay, couldn't get out of the situation there, I can understand that logic.
But once he's an adult and moved out why would he keep going back to his abuser when there was (according to what we've been told) no threat?
If it was a "do it or else...." It could be understandable.
But this woman abuses him for years and then he doesn't want any harm done to her??? What?
He seemed happier after his retreats with his mom according to the wife...
I'm thinking more likely dude was into it but hated the accusation, same as in the closet church members hate on gays the hardest only for everyone to finally learn they themselves have been doing all they claimed to have hate and worse.
He finally couldn't handle it and snapped.
That's my view at the moment.
you really dont know how it is until you are in his shoes. the mom is a narcissist and an abuser. fucking demonic people like that will twist and warp the minds of the people they abuse to believe its normal. One of my friends was molested by their father and still protects him. theres this rlly fucked up part of my family. their dad (my great uncle) is abusive towards his wife in every way possible yet she doesnt admit to the abuse. some people have weaker minds and cannot escape the abuse. they are trauma bonded to the abuser like this situation. abuse completely warps your perception of everything and the world
and when abuse especially sexual abuse is frequent eventually the manipulation and the repeated abuse will trick the victim into thinking they like it. its awful and even though he “seemed” happier he was not. that was a false sense of happiness. Some people should never of been parents
Its how it works. Abuse victims stay for so many reasons. The abuse itself severely traumatizes the victim, destroys their self esteem, self respect, causes depression and anxiety. The abusers use this again the victims.
Abuse victims often blame themselves, thinking its their fault, which is also backed up by the abusers. The convince themselves that they deserved it. They tend to be very embarrassed about what is happening and don't want others to find, because for some reason, for them, that feels more important to them than ending the abuse itself. That shame, the constant, underlying pain of what is happening changes you. You begin to avoid things that would make it worse in your mind. All the while, the abuser is reinforcing all of these conflicts, emotions, and fear within you to keep you in their control.
Finally, there is confusion. When it happened to me, I was 12. I desperately wanted friends, I was bullied a lot because I was awkward and girly and my ADHD made things difficult a lot. Someone did that to me. They SAd me. I didnt know thats what it was, I knew it was wrong, but they had me convinced it was ok, that people do that kind of thing all the time. Then I had questions in myself, I often thought to myself "well he loves me i guess" or "I must have done something that made him thing it was ok". He often said I must have enjoyed it because of the way my body reacted to the physical sensations. I died. I fell into a massive depression. Id cry because of immense stress but I always did it out of sight, if anyone asked, I would just say someone was bullying me or something, because hell, everyone was used to that anyways and nobody really cared. Finally he lost interest in me.
The shitty thing is, I was a boy and I liked other boys. I didnt get it at the time, I didnt think of it as being 'gay', but I knew I liked other guys my age. There were a couple guys I really liked, not my abuser though. Not like that. But he was nice. I got to go to his house. He genuinely wanted to be my friend. And then when he had the opportunity to have me alone at a stayover without his parents present...it started. It stopped after he seemed to lose interest, after several months. But whenever he wanted me to come over, I would. Id try to make some sort of weak excuse to not do so, but he would always convince me or my mom that i would have fun. I would always think it would be different and hed just want to hang out and play games or something. But it was never just being friends and playing games. It was him being charming at first, then demanding when I would try to shrug off his attempts to do things to me until I would relent.
He would threaten me, threaten to out me as a 'gay' person. Thats how I first learned the significance of what that meant, not that I didnt understand the term before, but I knew the bullying would increase 10 fold. I thought about telling the police, but because of previous experience I had with them, I knew they wouldnt believe me anyways, my abuser knew that too and made sure he told me that over and over. I never told my mom because I was worried she would blame me for it, I reason to feel that way. I told no one until I was 15. I started drinking a lot, so much drinking, became known as a partier. I told someone, a stranger, no idea who they were but I only told him because he was the last one awake at 6am when I was still drinking. He was probably in his late 20s and I broke down and said everything about it. He was so concerned, so very understanding. Im usually incredibly cautious at that point but the alcohol made it so I wasn't paying attention. He began to ask me questions about the details of my abuse, details I felt one would only want if there was a sinister interest in knowing how a 12 year old boy was abused by another boy. I thankfully was able to extract myself from that situation.
As I got into my high school years up until I was 18, I stopped caring about everything except for partying. I started having an intense interest in guys my own age and would often do things with them at parties kinda without thought or care. Always in secret, but I would never let anyone have control, I couldnt, I was too scared and all I could ever do was feel shame for it. By the time I hit 18 I had associated my like for guys with my SA and abuse. So all I could think of was that I was broken by what happened to me, that my SA made me like boys and every time it happened, I felt so ashamed that I wanted to die the next day. So I spent the next near decade denying the fact that I liked guys, whenever the urge came up and felt attracted to someone who was male, I felt disgusted, I felt like a piece of crap.
I didnt tell anyone about what happened to me until 2 years ago. Something happened. I had tried to kill myself so many times but never succeeded. But someone, through an unrelated incident, called me a rape apologist. I snapped, I finally just put my whole ordeal up on Twitter, I was so tired, I was so damn tired of having it in me, of not being able to just be me, of feeling like an awful person. For some reason, that changed my life. It wasnt the support that I got, it wasn't that I even told my story, though thats part of it. What I think it really was, was that when I saw everything I had written down and posted about what happened to me, suddenly everything became incredibly clear. I realized all that time I had been blaming myself. I had been denying who I was inside because of the negative association I had. That my shame was not my shame. I could look at it logically, with the mind of adult who had been through so much stuff and had much more experience with life and who wasn't burdened with being a child. I realized I could be me and that I dont have to be ashamed of myself anymore. It was a miracle.
Because I am the exception I feel, not the rule. I still require years of therapy. But I am much happier and it feels nice to not want to constantly unalive myself. My abuse thankfully stopped after only some months worth of time.
The OPs friends...never did.
If a little less than a year of abuse as a child almost ended me and destroyed a good chunk of my life...imagine what it did to this guy where it lasted for literal years.
If you havent suffered abuse, you just cant put yourself in the same position or mindset of the victim. Its impossible. It changes your brain. Even now I still have a ton of anxiety. I have a hard time trusting or allowing someone else to be in control. Even of driving a car with me in it. My life is ruined and I will never see my full potential, but its at least a little better now. I dont want you to be abused. I dont want anyone to be abused. Its good that you dont fundamentally understand what makes and abuse victim stay, Im so very glad that you dont. But please, at least understand, that there is something there that you can't possibly know and make it out the other side intact, whole. Please just help those that do understand, because they need the help. They need people who care what happens to them. Or maybe they will be forever lost.
Bro has a Sanji Personality still not wanting things to happen to those he hates.
I wouldn’t blame the wife, period lol
This friend is so selfish, the wife ruined my friendship blah, blah, blah...
Seriously had a girl who's daughter was in a adult relationship with her best friend and abuse. It was so sad because obviously this abuse started at a young age
Mate those AI's are crazy
He shouldn't have gotten married if he was unwilling to stand up for his wife. If he really loved that woman he should have gotten his head right before marrying her. Mental illness often effects everyone in the house, and in this case it very clearly has.
5:05 Intervention. This is an intervention LMAO
I can't stand the best friends wife. If it was a girl who was groomed by her father there would have been so many tears shed for her but what does the wife do? Just outright attacks him and accuses him of sleeping with his mom like he WANTS to. He's been a victim since he was A BOY. His mom needs to be put in prison. She should have WANTED to help her husband and get justice for him.
Yeah, it's just so sick, and there are people in the comments blasting the husband when they should be blasting his predator sick and twisted mother. He can't even have normal relationships with women because his mother will always drag him back to her.
Yes, he’s a victim but also he’s his wife’s abuser. His emotional trauma and abuse by his mother doesn’t excuse the abuse he’s giving his wife.
You all have valid points
I think it's because ofthe abuse and continuing contact with the mother. The wife got be little by the mother and her husband when he went off with mom. He choose to be with his abuser, and ultimately I think the wife blowing up to him and leaving stong armed him into being honest and cutting contact from mom. Because when he was with thw wife he wasn't with his abuser 24/7. When you are not with the abuser constantlyand sometimes with the abuser you can rationalize it's not that bad or mistaken and feel even deep love for the abuser. Plus the wife needed to protect herself from the emotional abuse from the mother abd husband.
15yo is old enough to consent in many European countries. Fucking lol at people calling this “abuse”.
SWEEET HOME ALABAMA 🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣
He’s not worth it
I feel like something is not adding up in the friends story about his mom and stuff
You could think there is an emergency in their yard and throw an emergency road flare or 4 into there yard to alert others
Sigmund Freud is rolling in his grave right now.
Ngl feel bad for the friend's ex wife. Even if he was abused by his mom that doesn't give him the right to treat his partner poorly. If he had spoken to his wife instead of abusing her then he could've gotten away from his mom and the whole thing more than likely wouldn't have escalated. Not to mention he was clearly sexually aroused by his mother at some point so it was likely consensual incest.
I don't know if I simply can't understand what I just read or I don't want to understand what I just read.
@@Schoobyy To put it simply, being abused isn't an excuse nor a reason to become an abuser.
@@TaoT-Tconsensual incest...that's what you went with
@@TaoT-T he didn't abuse her, he was fucked up in every sense so you can't expect normal behavior from a person who suffered sexual abuse as a child BY THEIR OWN PARENTS
>sexual abuse
>15yo
>calls his mother hot
Are you stupid? He liked his mom, that wasn’t abuse. He made up that bullshit story after he lost everything to garner sympathy and have a chance back at life.
The “queetly” killed the mood broooo
Your friend was clearly groomed he needs help and you and the now ex-wife should have seen this and now that the wife is gone he will just be pushed into his abusive mom's arms
best friend trying for 2nd chance? 👍
ex trying for 2nd chance? 😂
Bro was friends with muscle man
this comment section why im scared as a man to exist in this world
This woman should literally be sent to jail, but I'd respect the friend's wishes.But, if he ever comes forward with more information, I'd try to convince him to go to the police and see if she could still be arrested for sexual abuse/rape (story never said it stopped until March so I assume it was happening during adulthood too).
My two cents on "how to move forward" in a Situation like this: when you have to deal with being homeless, jobless, and severe trauma, it can be good to take things one at a time. Help him get back on his feet, get a stable base for his life, then press the isdue once this stuff has been taken care off. These kinds of things cant be addressed in a day, and when your life is just a mountain of shit, you have to clean it up one wheelbarrow at a time.
Bruh how she marry a dude that doesn’t f her, doesn’t do things with her, doesn’t compliment or talk.
And then she suspects he has cours with his mother, BUT SHE STILL STAYS. Furthermore, after all of this, she doesn’t even approach him with understanding, but rather anger????
There's no way of understanding to approach this situation if you were in her situation and you're husband did that wouldn't you be angry? I mean don't get me wrong she was dumb for staying but I can't blame her for like being angry about it
Sweet home Alabama
Doing my mom doing doing my mom you knew we straight doing my mom
Well, that’s just gross.
"He asked me to not say anything and I agreed"... Umm you told REDDIT of all places and now 50K+ people know 🥴
Damn cant really call anyone a mother fucker from now on. Thats his title now
I find it funny that the job fired the victim of abuse.
No one here gonna come down on the subject for cheating?
The irony is tough, his wife saved him from ending himself yet ruined his life because he hid the truth. Gonna be real it's his own fault. If he told the truth he might've saved his marriage, got his mother arrested and his life would be intact. I don't blame the ex for making that assumption either, I did just like almost everyone else here.
0:45 Oh so his friend is Norman Bates… that’s cool.
So wife wasn't lying and did good leaving this man.
I cannot BELIEVE there are people trying to make the wife into the victim Jesus Christ
Just be there for him
13:51,
Grrrr.. *turns into wolf*
Not quite a novelist, this one
What is your best friend Chris Hansen?
Oh wait I think I mean Chris Chan both terribly Chris's.
I think we can all agree friend's ex is the bad guy of the story (as well as friend's mom) as she completely ruined any chance of friend getting help and ruined friend's life.
He may have been a victim, but he was also an abusive husband.
Nope. Friend's ex was a victim of emotional abuse as well and she deserved to have her feelings known and get out of a toxic situation for her own good. Like everyone's said, you can't force someone to get help and you need to save yourself before going down with others.
She handled it poorly but I really can’t blame her. Imagine suspecting your husband of cheating, just to find out it was with his MOM. That’s literally traumatizing, even if he was groomed. He seemed like an active participant at that point cause he was like 30… 😬
What a terrible women!
Woman, not women
It's like the I consent meme
I heard a story about a guy who had a sexual relationship with his mom for her whole life he was getting bjs into his 30s he's kinda f'd up in the head
Sweet home Alabama!!!
nah we do it with consent here
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I feel bad for the friend and yhe ex wife was wrong for being aggressive but she wasn't wrong for divorcing him. No matter your past, eventually you become an adult and have to take responsibility for your actions and no matter how you look at it, he voluntarily had sex with his mother. He even denied everything and turned it around on them, accusing them for thinking that he did have sex with his mom (which he did).
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It’s easy to judge but I have no idea what it’s like to get molested by your own mother for so long…it’s bad enough if it’s a family friend, but your own parent? At very least she went too far in posting all that online, that serves no one.
Oedipus Rex Complex
This story feels gross.
Sounds fake to me.
Like every redit post
The "Grrr" sounds real to me. Lol
More disgusting than the abuse the guy went through are the comments blaiming him and saying that he is as guilty.
Yeah, when you´re a man you are always in the wrong. If we are ALWAYS wrong, there is no reason to do even care about doing the right thing. We men should just go berserker mod.
Jesus, that's a horrifying story. Good thing it's completely made up just like every other on this channel :)
Man can cry tooo
OP, when the guy says never to talk to him again, maybe respect it. he chose to delete you from his life entirely. respect it for good or ill.
No! Dont abandon your friend when its obvious he needs help.
@@Justicar2503 except,, he didnt need help. he did request the OP to butt out, and it was only after everything blew up that he needed help. too late, i say.
Beta op blames wife
Could only make it halfway through. The broken english and bizarre play-by-play and values placement makes this sound like a total asspull work of fiction, or the person writing it has next to no empaty. Ugh
what specific ai voice is this? I LOVE IT
God if that is true, op is being a shitty af friend.
Why?
You know to make this a little easier to listen to you could probably correct spelling errors and grammar before you just copy and paste this into text to speech
What song is this?
I honestly don't understand why he didn't cut the relationship his mom at the beginning or atleast after his marriage and continued to be with her willingly...
If this was a man doing this to his daughter, he’d be buried underneath the prison
yep, being molested is bad. Still regarding his school jokes, he got into it. It may be a brainwashing, maybe not, but he clearly had something with his mother even after a marriage. really? Do people really believe that what he has done while being married correlate with his speech about his wife getting him out of this abusive relationship? It seems that he just got his life ruined, and now he wants support when everyone got mad at him and op was the easiest target for that.
And wife clearly wasn't lying, as he tends to say. Even when he got confronted, and he got a chance to change his life, he still chose his mommy over everyone else.
Well from his perspective all of his friends and wife attacked him personally. All he had left was to go to his mom because everyone else was against him. Also if he was fully willing in his mothers advances then why leave her. If he was trying to manipulate his friend then there is no reason for him to leave his mom. Hell OP started the conversation with I sorry for saying those things you would never do that. Why would the friend out himself if OP would have just pushed it under the rug. I think the friends was so willing to do what his mom said because he was so used to her control over him. Over controlling mothers can already cause strains in marriage without the years of sexual abuse.
@@weirdflex1673 nobody know if he dumped his mother. He may just be broken from other's bashing. This may be a problematic thing as it's a one-sided story, so everything may be a lie. And I have never heard of children clinging to their overcontrolling parents not out of fear, as this causes mostly enmity. Like "Hey, I got molested in childhood by my mother multiple times, so I would go on every holiday trip with this exact mother" is too unlikely situation to happen.
There were a situation of some woman getting married and giving bj to her uncle/father on the wedding because "otherwise he won't give me a house". Later it was revealed that she got molested by that parent, and they just continued doing it, even when she got older and moved out. People may be just strange, so I just accepted the fact that I shouldn't try to find reasoning of someone's actions.
So women ruined this mans life. Not surprised in the least bit
He dated his mom his whole life, he only came up with this story because he was exposed and lost everything, and buddy was so mad at his friends wife and blaming her for making him losing his pal sounds like he wanted that kind of love too, L for all of them, only victim here is the wife.
Liked your own comment... opinion rejected
12:55
So, he was f*ing his mon but not his wife. He may have been abused for a while, but you’re gonna tell me he had a wife at home, he was not intimate with her, he went regularly on vacations with his mom who abused him and it was against his will? Give me a break, he did it and he enjoyed it. You’re gonna tell me he stormed out his house after his wife confronted him and the second he walked out the door he called his mom, the abuser to come pick him up, console and protect him?
You should take male victims more seriously, he was groomed and he couldn’t break out of his mom’s control. He may have “enjoyed” it, but the brain was protecting him from further trauma by getting aroused physically.
@@Jesus-wh4smI agree with you, the "enjoed it" concept isn't true. Some rape victims even felt an orgasm during the act because their brain wants to protect them. Maybe the man in this story is simply traumatized and he doesn't want to sleep with his wife
guy who has no idea how sexual trauma works and posts a youtube comment saying that a sexual abuse victim enjoyed getting abused
"Men can't be r*ped." 🤡
@@hearts4tzuyu.There was clearly enjoyment on his part, constantly comparing other women to his mother’s body, seeking his abuser for comfort, etc. Unfortunately that’s why sexual abuse from a family member is so complex. But the person I feel for the most is his wife, there’s no excuse for the way he treated her.
It really pisses me off when people are being abused in any way, & deciding not to tell anyone. Especially if they have a really good time to do so, like at that mock intervention. Why not tell your best friend about the abuse? Why not tell everyone at the mock intervention? Why? WHY?
I’m just really angry at OP’s best friend for not telling anyone that was going on. Seriously, what was so hard about telling anyone? Was it too hard to? Even if it’s hard to tell someone (I don’t understand how though), you should know that it would be better for you & probably the rest of the world if you told other people about it. If you (for some reason) want to protect the person abusing you, like in this situation, only tell people you trust not to tell anyone. Yes, he did that, but why did it take so long for him to do so? Not to mention, why was he responding to his Mother’s calls to her house if he know what was going to happen? Did he like it? I assume & hope not. You don’t have to listen to her just because she’s your mother, y’know. I could go on, but this is turning into a rant.
he was abused, r*ped, and groomed by his own mother, for god knows how long. this isnt just some guy who had a slightly uncomfy experience. this type of abuse can make a person not know what reality is anymore... it could make it so anytime anyone raises their voice at him, he believes they are his mother. she couldve twisted his understanding of reality so badly, that he thinks admitting the truth would hurt his mom, and that itd be his fault, and that he would view himself as just as bad as his dad.
@@thefrostbee4182
Yes, I understand that fully. However, even if you feel as if you are doing the wrong thing, you (hopefully) know deep down that you are being wronged as well & should do something about it. That exactly is what upsets me: Not doing something about a situation you don’t want to be in, no matter how you feel about the repercussions. I realize I didn’t seem very apologetic in the initial comment, so I’ll give my condolences here.
I’m so sorry that he had to go through such abuse from his mother & feel like garbage the whole way. No one deserves to go through such horrors as those, & anyone who does should seek help to cope with said experiences. His mother is indeed an awful person, especially with emotionally abusing & manipulating him. I really hope he is doing better now.
@@Riltea well, as a person who has also been through abuse myself, its alot more complicated. also, thank u for being respectful.
He did know it was bad, and he was looking for ways to do something about it. sadly, in those situations, its very difficult to understand what to do. him contemplating s*icide is proof that he was looking for a way out.
Like, i assume youve heard of Stockholm syndrome? to most people, its just ''woah ppl are so crazy and delusional for falling in love with their hostage taker!''. but in reality, stockholm syndrome got the name, because hostages did not trust the police's shoddy rescue attempts, not properly caring for their safe escape, which lead the hostages to stay.
Theres probably alot we arent seeing. mby he has a chronic illness, and needs his moms healthcare, and if he leaves, he loses the healthcare temporarily, which would cause awful effects. orrr, she promised to take her own life if he left, and leave fake clues pointing the cops to him as the suspect. theres so much we dont know
@@thefrostbee4182
I’m sorry you had to go through whatever abuse experienced, I do hope that you are doing better now.
I hadn’t thought about him not knowing what he could do, I should have been more considerate. My apologies.
Yeah, I know about Stockholm Syndrome, & I regularly joke about how I’m very susceptible to it as I typically end up really liking things that I used to hate for no reason. Sorry if that comes off as insensitive.
I just don’t really think about certain things in certain situations, & realize that that’s a flaw of mine. I try to be as understanding & open-minded as possible, but still end up disregarding important matters from time to time. Again, I very sincerely apologize.
@@Riltea ur fine! It’s rare ppl care this much. I mean, even I struggle to accept my actions sometimes.
So.... strictly speaking, he was still cheating on his wife. I mean, sure, he was victimized ever since a child and that has continued into his adult years. But an affair is an affair. And he still has yet admitted to it. I am trying to feel sorry for him, but he is a god damn adult now who has moved out of his mother's house, lives with his new wife, and has the support of friends as well. He just needed to tell the truth and get help. Instead he got angry and ran to mom...
its r*pe...
What part of he was groomed and molested did you not understand?
@@farhanishraqifti1489 and that means he can do whatever he wants? What don't you understand about: he's an adult now that's moved out of his mother's house and is living with his wife now
@@DavidJohnsonFromSeattle Thats just not how it works dude.I'm not saying that he doesn't have to get over his trauma because he definitely has to.
But you can't just ignore the effects of years of grooming.Simply put your being too harsh on him.
Would you say the same thing if it was a girl being groomed by her dad and say that because shes an adult now you will consider it as just she cheating on her husband?
Assuming you do hold both scenarios to the same level of harshness as I said your being too harsh.Hes a victim that never got any help and when his wife and friend learned about it his wife basically started confronting him like his mother did nothing wrong and nothing wrong happened to him.Hes a victim and he needs sympathy and care.
@@farhanishraqifti1489I don't know how I can say this anymore clearly. You don't get a free pass on victimizing other people just because someone else hurt you. What he did was wrong and inexcusable. Full stop. I feel real bad for him but the fucking cycle has to end and he doesn't deserve pity over what he did to his wife.
ZAMN
Like the voice👍
queetly😶