I heard this one before. I don't blame op for leaving. She still cheated on him and got more than she bargained for. I hope op is living his best life.
Same. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes, deal with the consequences on your own. Sure, feel bad for OP's ex-GF, but she's going to have to deal with it on her own.
Reminds me of the one 4 chan story about a dude who told his gf several times No don't go to a notoriously seedy club especially alone because he was tired from working all week. She went got graped and op dumped her fast. Both Bs knew what they were doing. She / they both of them wanted to cheat. The issue was the guy(s) she (both of them) wanted to cheat with wanted to push more and thus she realized she wasn't in control but too late. Cheating is still cheating in the end in this context and both guys should dump their gfs with that outcome. Goes without saying for any guy that has this happen to them.
When it was a story of SA, his response was warranted. When it was a story of cheating, his response was warranted. When she tried to extirpate his reputation because he realized she was cheating, it just proves she was never the person he thought she was. I would have kicked her out immediately, and at this point, I think I'd say it's her fault.
Of course it’s her fault. Not so much the R* but she was being flirty and leading a guy upstairs privately. I’d consider dumping my girl if this entire time she was doing harder drugs and flirting with literally anymore but me. Play stupid games win stupid prizes
@@ryanbolton1044 Lol the grape was her fault also there's a reason nobody cared about promiscuous women getting graped in the past how do you know & why give a shit? Sluts are sluts. Bros before hoes should be in the back of every guys mind.
Jesus man. That girlfriend was such an awful person. She lost the best boyfriend she’ll ever have. Hope this man gets the emotional help he needs. Sam MVP
What makes him the best bf? He basicly dumos her and tells her he doesn't wanna even see her right after getting r*ped. I mean yeah she fucked up but he's not an angel.
I am just surprised he wasn't kicked out of school for "making her feel unsafe." I actually saw a case where a guy has fought 10 years against being kicked out for a false allegation.
She lied about getting dragged and lied about the person she had closest in her time of need to the whole wide world, then she admits to make out with Jonh before that party and does anyone actually believed that they only kissed or something? From kissing you go to smashing in a matter of seconds, with all her lies and what she was willing to do to him after he broke up with her !BUT STILL LET HER STAY! I don't believe she just kissed a dude a few times, it's just not credible
Yeah, seems hard to believe they only kissed once before. Even if the grape is true she's a massive walking red flag and OP is entirely right to distance himself from that. His "friends" also sound like terrible people honestly, except Sam.
The hospital verified that she WAS drugged and roped. But ... she did go to cheat and had gone with John to the room. John had drugged 2 other women and roped them as well. John evidently gets off on drugging them and being violent to them.
I like how OP was giving her WAYYY more support than she deserved and in return for his generosity she stabbed him in the back and ruined his social life. Bro was literally just trying to reinforce his boundaries and end a relationship that was beyond saving. Just goes to show how cold some women can be.
And in the end, he *STILL* let her stay another 2 weeks rent free after she fully outed herself as a lying psychopath and destroyed his reputation. I'm sorry but OP was a naive fool. He didn't deserve someone as awful as her, of course, but he was a fool.
His fault for trusting a cheater. Some people can be too nice sometimes that they end up getting stupid because of it. Once someone backstabbed you, never trust them again. In short, don't be like this guy
@@purplegalaxy7231 I'd say we all should be like this guy. It was a long relationship, and he was trusting without really trusting, so I guess he did his best. Tried to be the best he can, and even tho she backstabbed him, he wasn't the good guy. The one that needs to exist nowadays. But I got your point of view
she for the streets, not worth a second thought. let her go enjoy the fruits of her labor. she is a strong, independant woman, and can make her own choices. she never cared about the op, and the fact he let her stay is tragic. don't do that. a cheater gets the goddamn boot.
dude honestly I would just get with Sam instead at this point. Okay but seriously, I felt bad for both of them at first and this sounded like a tragic story but I lost all hope when he said she framed him for abuse and ruined his life. As someone who's been sexually harassed, I don't feel a single ounce of remorse for this woman. I could care less what happened to her, she still did something horrible.
From the sheer amount of times she was caught lying in the whole story, and then publically lied in the end to ruin OPs life, we can surmise that everything else was likely a lie too. The most likely story is that she went up to the bedroom with John to do hard drugs and cheat on OP. Both her and John were probably drugged, but he's a sick b*stard and went too hard on her. If he didn't cause so much damage they'd likely call it a day and brush it under the rug. It's also likely that she's already cheated on him with John multiple times given how fine she is with John being creepy and possessive around her and how they've secretly gathered to do hard drugs multiple times. All I can say is this terrible incident made OP dodge a massive bullet, so there's a silver lining.
John literally touches her breast when she's in bikinis without her blowing him off even with her bf around, and OP really thinks nothing between those two happened? They've been knocking boots together for a long time. OP is just an ATM.
She liked it hard with John, but they got too caught in the moment and unlike previous times he left her too bruised to hide it, so she had to come up with the r*pe story to justify it.
Probably what happened. It sickens me to think about it but i could see that girl framing that guy as a rapist to get out of a hairy situation. Its always a red flag when male friends are close like that to girls, especially when drugs are involved.
@@ricoarmstrong7440 And now you know why women always react badly when told their creepy male friends are creepy. They are evolved to be the best liars ever to exist.
Yea, most women claim rope when they either regret it, or they need to manipulate a situation. Most of these women just like to sleep around with no consequences. It is what it is
my dude we literally had a decades long judge nearly loose his position for the supreme court cause a woman claimed he did something 20 years ago. The problem is that woman are believed blindly
@@hotel_arcadia "Soft"? He is one of the most solid man I have ever heard about. Despiste being betrayed in many levels he kept his integrity and acted wisely. Supporting someone who offended you takes real emotional strength, it is the opposite of "soft". He was not naive, he gave chances mindfully, and when she ultimately showed who she truly was, he rightfully cut her off. Someone like you calling him "soft" shows that you're absolutelly shallow and has no emotional intelligence.
I mean he's a spineless idiot. I'm not insulting just to insult. But the guy was not only extremely dumb ("naive") but an extreme pushover with no integrity as a dude. She lied to him at every single corner over the course of 2 years and he STILL let her live at his place until October.
I wonder if she was like this as a teenager. That could be the real reason her parents washed their hands of her. They are probably done with her shenanigans. Drug users tend to put themselves in bad situations. Her wanting drugs put her in the position she's in. To cover her own butt she says she's raped to cover the fact she's using and was planning to cheat. It's crazy how people cheat knowing full well if they get caught they will be thrown out. She's ungrateful and self entitled thinking the world owes her something.
As a woman this is very devastating and at the same time absolutely disgusting. No I’m sorry this whole culture of drugs , no boundaries between male-female friendships and partying is disgusting. I don’t care if I’m being disrespectful or judgemental, from what I have seen and from all the cases of cheating addictions that I’ve read about in such environments , I feel that nothing can convince me that it could somehow be acceptable. Nothing. I’m not even 18 yet, but if I’m ever looking for a partner, ain’t no way I’m allowing both him and myself to do such things and I think that everyone has the right to demand this small thing from their partner, because loyalty and commitment is the least one can do to maintain a serious relationship and this rule should be set beforehand. So everyone and especially guys, don’t feel that you are possessive or that you’re limiting your girl’s freedom when you’re asking for her commitment, because if she is reluctant to do such an easy thing, then she has something to hide and she’s no keeper.
God I wish I had been born in the US, here in France the girls in my high school (and basically in the whole country) are absolutely insane, you guys seem to have some rational ones, enjoy it because we don't all have that
Been single for 3 years now, my last girl constantly tried to push me to hit her and assaulted me many times which I resisted and tried to get her out of the house but every day that passed just was getting worse by she trying to tell people that I was the one assaulting her even made an scene in front of my whole family crying saying that she gave me money all the time (which was 200% the opposite) and that I would hit her almost everyday…. That’s fine but the most messed up part was my family not questioning that for a damn second and jumping on her side… my emotions can’t even be described, first time my family have seen me cry ever since I was like a 7 year old kid (I was 23 at the time) I am 26 now. But yeah funny enough my other ex before that one was just like the one OP mentioned and I’ve learned that there’s nothing physically more beautiful than women but at the same time nothing more evil…..
sorry that you had to deal with that its shame for a family to abandon their son just like that without even letting him speak but at least now you know you cant trust them to have your back i hope you found great friends to build a life with
Nothing hurt me more than women. And they went out of their way to hurt me. I just can't really trust them, and almost every time I didn't I am glad about. There is only one women that I kinda trusted and she broke that trust, but eventually, using her being really hot and flirting and suggesting she wants to sleep with me (which she never in the 8 years we have been friends had done or had happened and since I honestly just hated her and at the moment was only open to use her for sex, since I always found her very attractive physically) we started having contact again, but when we met she took back everything she said with the really sexual stuff she wanted me to do to her, basically she got cold feet and I blocked her after that for like a month (the only person I have ever blocked). Until she kept calling me and we started talking and I told her most of the shit that she does and says that makes me wanna throw up, especially stuff where she basically lied to me and treated me worse than anyone else (one thing was that at the beginning of our friendship I would hug her, like all my friends and I love that, but she told me, she doesn't waant to be hugged, that she doesn't like physical contact and I found that sad, but respected it and never hugged her again, but then I started meeting more friends and coworkers of her and she not only would hug them, but have tons of physical contact with them, like partially as much as couples would have, not friends. When we met again after all that time where she just ghosted me in a time of need (my gf had broken up with me) I go in for a hug (after all this time and all the other bs she had done) and she stopps me and has the audacity to lie to my face and tell me she doesn't like physical contact after that I blocked her for a month. Now we hug when we meet and she told me she is probably bad, since she isn't used to doing that with me but she's open to trying that (I tell her everything I dislike about how she treats me everytime she does and I told her that I love and need physical contact and stopped it with her, because I respected her wishes, which turned out to be lies and I didn't have any physical contact with no one since I lost basically all my friends, since most were fake and some good ones just followed paths in live that seperated us and I only had that contact with my gf, which then broke up with me). Well now she recognizes that I am literally the only person that is there for her and she can trust fully and the only person she can count on and also thanking me for being me and existing and being such a great person. She is supposed to have a bf, but it's a pretty unhealthy relationship. It feels great that she tells me all that stuff kinda the first time, but i feel like I can't still count on her, because I told her a day to meet up after she told me she wants to meet up with me and she agreed to that day and then shy went studying with a school friend instead and another day I called her (which rarely happenes, usually she calls me) and she told me she can't rn, but she'll have time at 16:00 o clock, so I call her and she tells me she can't because she is in a call with other people and didn't call me back that day. I wished I had other friends here, since I probably would stop having contact with her if I did since her actions tell me she doesn't really apreciates or respects me.
I'm at the beginning of the video. I was r@ped as a child. I'm 37 now and yes it does break you. Many r@pe victims k*ll themselfs. I tried to end myself too as a teeanger and I can't guarantee I won't ever try again. You might not understand what r@pe does to someones mind, but it is bad. Way worse than cheating. It's like someone stole something and you sentence the person to d3@th. You can't compare it. Your words are just cruel.
She has "known him for so long" yet not once did she manage to pick up on the fact that the dude is a creep let alone care enough about her relationship todo the right thing and not mingle with a guy who clearly has an interest in her. She made her bed she can lay in it. I wouldn't have given her time to recover at all. You did this to yourself. Get out of my home. Its not rocket science. You cant care for people like her. She is a danger to herself.
Dude invested way more time and emotion into this than I would have. Like, "Oh, you were cheating on me? Welp... Don't let the door hit you on the way out."
To be fair the fact she was raped could make the full story hard to find. If it was a simple case of her cheating, then he probably would have taken action way quicker
It happened to his girlfriend, and then two other girls came forward with the same story, coincidentally, two other people posted an almost identical story in the same forum a couple of weeks earlier. First, her tox screen showed ketamine, then, it only showed fentanyl. A difficult part of telling a complicated lie is trying to maintain the details.
Definitely was a big lie when she said it was fentanyl lmao... A microgram of that can end your life. So obvious that was a stupid lie lol.... But man OP was really dumb or simpin hard to ignore so many red flags.
THANK YOU! I was scrolling to find at least one other person besides me who caught how fake this is. Don't forget that she was supposedly already starting to have sex with him, yet he drugged and raped her. Two other victims. Evidence of date rape drugs. Evidence of rape. But we are still supposed to buy that she was openly cheating on OP in front of his friends. I stopped halfway through. My brain was twitching at the stupidity.
It's not about modern women. In my country, something similar happened. A girl (15) had a relationship with her cousin (?). When she got accidently pregnant, she said "i was r by John (not his real name of course i really can't remember this poor lads name). And unfortunately John got k*ll*d by that girls father. And after that, she confessed. And this girl was not a modern woman, she was a conservative girl living in the countryside.I don't want to say too much because she is a young girl, after all she was also afraid of her father. But that doesn't change the fact that what she did was disgusting and that it cost the life of another innocent young boy (17). This is just fckn sad. And this kind of slander reflects badly on the real victims. Anyways, like i said, its not about modern women.
The “male” friend situation has to be addressed at the start of any relationship. If that “male” friend crosses boundaries and your girl doesn’t see it as a big deal then walk away. So many times in these stories the bf doesn’t want to seem “insecure”, only to end up with his gf/fiancé/wife cheating on him with the “male” friend. OP wasted 2 years with this liar.
exactly. OP is the type to get cheated on (didn’t stand up for sara when she was getting grabbed by john) and sara is the one to get r’d (i’m wording this bad so i’m censoring it) by john because she left an open pocket. they were pretty much already intimate and John got too excited
It sucks what happened, and I'm glad OP left, but I'm going to quote something from this story to explain why OP is the type to get cheated on. "Some of the behavior from John towards Sarah that made me uncomfortable throughout the course of our relationship are, constantly making comments about her body. Putting his arms around her every chance he could. Asking her to go on a trip to Europe last summer, just the two of them. Poking her breast when she's wearing tight clothing, saying things like I'm lucky I met her when I did, or she would have been with him by now." Now remember this an almost 2-year relationship, and John has "blatantly flirted with Sarah for the entirety of the relationship and made occasional passes". OP didn't have the spine to set firm boundaries and let his girl and John disrespect him. John was straight up groping his girl, and OP didn't say or do anything about it. In the above quote by OP, 2 out of 5 examples are about John being physically inappropriate to the point of even poking her breast. 2 out of 5 examples are of John wanting to be with Sarah. Before you defend him, answer this. If you're a man, would you be cool with your girlfriend's closest male friend poking her breast and suggesting that if you weren't in the picture, they would be together? Same for if you're a woman, would you be cool with your closest male friend poking you in the breast and suggesting to your boyfriend that if he wasn't in the picture, you guys would be together? Let's be real here, OP is a doormat. This doesn't mean he deserves to be cheated on, simply that his lack of a spine makes him a perfect candidate for cheating and disrespect.
you are making it sound like op is responsible for those events when then too it should have clearly been his gf setting boundaries with john. what can op do other than expect his gf to not let another guy touch her chest ? john is human waste but its not his responsibility to keep their relationship functioning. his gf should have cut off contact with john after him repeatedly crossing boundaries, op should have broken up with her if she didnt want to do so
@@phae_c OP is not responsible for any of those events. However, he is responsible for the manner in which he responds. I think people don't understand what setting boundaries actually mean. Simply saying "I don't like when you do that" or "I don't feel comfortable with that" is not setting boundaries. That's expressing how you feel. Boundaries are backed with consequences that are then enforced when said boundaries are broken. Yes, in an ideal world, his girlfriend should be a mature and decent human being. However, in an ideal world, he would also have a spine. Unfortunately, we don't live in an ideal world, which is why boundaries exist. Unfortunately, he met a woman with loose morals and poor boundaries. Nobody is disputing the fact that she's a horrible human. What I'm also suggesting is to hold him accountable. If you want to have a world where men are strong and good, then you need to be able to call out and hold weak and bad men accountable. OP was a weak man, which boggles my mind why you are defending weak men? This kind of crap doesn't happen to strong men. It's not that women won't cheat on strong men, but strong men see the red flags, have firm boundaries and enforce them with consequences. The big thing here is enforcing. OP's lack of a spine and refusal to enforce boundaries made his girlfriend's actions acceptable. For example, if your girlfriend is being groped by her friends, and all you do is say you don't like it but continue being in a relationship with her, then guess what? You're saying that though you don't like her actions, you accept that behavior in your relationship. Which then you can't blame your girlfriend for doing what you have deemed acceptable. The same thing goes for the men and women that take back a cheating partner. All that means is that though you were hurt by the actions, you still accept it in your relationship. Since you want to side up for OP. Let me ask you this. If for 2 years you were constantly talking about how your girlfriend's/wife's relationship with her male best friend was inappropriate, and he was doing all the things John was doing, What would you do? How long would you have tried to keep pleading your discomfort? How would you have handled it? What boundaries would you have had, and how would you have enforced them? In answering these questions, you are going to come up with a realization that OP has zero control over his girlfriend. The only actions he could have taken were actions to himself and for himself, but he was WEAK. Remember, multiple things can be true. The girlfriend was scum and OP was weak. Scummy people do scummy things to others, and weak people don't do anything, resulting in getting walked all over.
@@Rocko2552 im not sure if i can answer your question well, since i cant very well see myself in the position of a man needing to avoid being "weak", and i dont think the same responsibility is placed on women. to answer anyway, if my bf were to let other women continuously be inappropriate, i would bring it up a few times that its obviously unacceptable, and if he doesnt want to change anything then id have to leave, as i cant change what is in his control and his responsibility.
@@phae_ches not responsible the guy was a d bag and his gf disrespected him. He is responsible for being a doormat letting them walk all over him and having it happen. Any self respecting man would tell his gf thats not okay and tell the other dude to f off or else. 2nd time it happens gf gets dumped. 3rd time isnt there because thats when they cheat on you.
yeah she cheated and regrets it. i wouldnt call this rape. as soon as you lie about being dragged somewhere you lose all credibility. i knew a few girls I grew up with who did stuff like this (they admitted it to me). cheat then cry r*pe because they regret it. she led john on. led him upstairs to a room. where she wanted drugs from him. ive been to enough parties to know how that works. she couldnt hide her infidelity so she framed him for rape.
This is an absolute shit take. She did a bad thing, but with this guy having a history of raping women who initially consented, I think it's obvious what happened.
your very naive but dont worry life will change that. there is so much wrong with her ever changing story. like for instance she said she was drugged with meth and then ketamine. one is a stimulant the other is a tranquilizer. you cant confuse the two. also we dont even know if she really went to the hospital. we know there was no police report. we know she went up there willingly to get drugs. these are all things she told us. nothing about this says r*pe. it says "i sucked dick for coke and now regret it" shes a liar. @@oliverstray1040
no, she definitely got raped, the guy has too much of a record for it to be a lie and consent may be taken away. I think she consented at first when druggd, then thought of OP for a second (which isnt an excuse, thinking of someone and regretting it while cheating isnt an excuse youre still at fault if you do that) and started to regret it, but he still went with it and rped her.
having a reputation and a record are two different things. she wasnt drugged she admitted to doing drugs. she lied about what she was supposedly "drugged" with (ketamine and meth are two completely different things everyone in that scene knows that) she was all over the guy that night in front of everyone and then went up stairs with him with them admittedly for more drugs. not only that she admitted she had been doing drugs with this guy for years secretly. given that i find it very unlikely that she now suddenly grew a conscience and revoked consent mid sex. its far more likely she got caught, knew about her friends reputation before and knew people would believe her.@@Arch-Vex
100% Sarah's fault. Completely irresponsible and tries to have her cake and eat it way too much. Although OP should have seen something like this coming if he didn't stop John's weird behaviour when he went as far as poking her breasts. Maybe I am just sad and have zero concept of human interaction, but the story goes to show that this life of hookup culture and drugs is just objectively bad. I would be very sceptical of anyone who isn't self-aware of this fact if they happen to indulge in that kinda life.
Drug addicts will spend all their money on drugs. Will be "friends" with Johnny as long as he gives them drugs. And will blame everyone else for everything, starting with parents and continuing with naive boyfriend.
I don't know what it's like in his country but in the US you can request a male or female therapist so it may not be a she he's speaking to. While a male therapist can still defend the gf it's not as likely.
therapists aren't really bound to help with shit like this anyway. the fact that OP is a spineless softie would just lead way to his therapist shaping his own journey of self-realization. this heartbreak is ultimately a good thing in the grand scheme, considering how fucking spineless he was prior to all of this.@@antikommunistischaktion therapy is a female solution to problems. it doesn't matter if the therapist is male/female, there's no real sexism like that. it just doesn't help men really at all (unless we're talking victims of war crimes/etc).
Tbh I think she just said he did that to her because she knew he’d probably tell others that they had s*x and she didn’t want people to judge her.. she’s ruining that guys fault by making up lies and then makes up lies about the OP.. she’s vile. Glad he left and I’m glad Sam let him know the truth on the situation😅
bruh how hard is it to understand that men knows what other men want. TRUST what YOUR man says, even best friend! if they seem to act different like uncomfortable, or aggravated when one certain man is near by. take that to heart and ask if something is up with that one person.
Men are shamed for being possessive when establishing healthy boundaries He should have told her "No. Youre not going. And you never meet that creep again. Take it or LEAVE."
The BF was basically a ATM machine to her. The fact that her family basically disowns her is a big red flag first and foremost. She definitely have been having sex with that childhood friend for years and OP is too dumb to realize it. She basically lied entire time. The bruises she got was from having rough sex with the John friend that left marks. Which she doesn't have a good reason to explain the bruises other than lie and say it's from grape. The entire friend group are pieces of shit from hiding and lying for her for so long too. BF should've dumped her as soon as he heard about the cheating from SAM.....
Keep in mind she also had gashes and there were other victims who stepped forward abt John. She is a cheater, but I wouldn’t assert that she wasn’t assaulted
This is why all my phone calls are recorded. One should be able to defend himself against such accusations. The first mistake was not dumping her after the first event. It happend after he warned her and she clearly disrespected his boundaries. He should have exposed her to her parents, dump her and in the event of her ruining his reputation come back with recordings and report a defamation attempt. That way she would have seen one's actions actually do have consequences.
It is always "Wanted an adventure." "I was not feeling you like I used to." "You were not present with me here when I needed you." Or something along the lines of that. I do not understand why people take such drastic decisions without communication and blame the circumstances or alcohol for it. Edit: I wrote this comment in the mid of the video while listening to it still and my god, this woman really tried to cover up her drug intake from the, maybe, only right person she should talk to about this. Cases like these make me more furious and increase my disbelief in humanity.
The only thing OP did wrong was not leaving her sooner because lets be real here he kinda warranted this when John would act this way towards Sarah and she didn't call him out and tell him to stop clearly meaning there was something under the surface (she was most likely cheating then also) why she wouldn't tell him to stop his behavior or cut contact and OP not standing his ground and saying if this continues im done with you in a way he just told her he basically has no backbone and she can do whatever she wants and she did just that with "girls nights out" and purposely hiding the fact she went to parties and did drugs with John behind his back which if it was just a "Girls Night" why was John present other than to be the girls personal plumber and give them drugs which brings up my next point John is 100% a creep and Sarah and every other female involved in the story still chose to be around him and do drugs with him especially Sarah which clearly says she had the intent to cheat and had for well over a year and there's no way they didn't know of Johns creepy behavior but they still had "consensual" contact with him and Sam even proves Sarah's consensual intent. Yea only thing OP did wrong was letting her be around John and not getting rid of her way sooner and I gurantee there's still a good solid amount of things Sarah did with John that she kept on purpose to paint him as purely the bad person and she would get away scott free without OP ever knowing I gurantee the information he stated was only 2% of the entire story just what she hand picked to tell and the rest would be a "Girls Night" secret 🤣
I've noticed that almost every situation involving a woman getting roped, she's putting herself in precarious situations. It's always the girl doing something extremely risky before getting roped. I would urge women to start moving with intelligence, but most women believe they should be able to walk down a dark alley alone and nothing bad should happen to them. They live in a world of delusion and set themselves up for failure.
glad to see this mans growth in just a 15 minute video, went from a potential step-on to an absolute chad, MAD RESPECTS for my boi 👌👌👌👌👌👌 Edit: its sad to see how f'ed up his environment is, with mainly/only his boss siding with him, im glad he still got through it in a very respectable way and hope he clears out his fake friend/ family members on his socials/ restricts contact with them ☕️☕️☕️☕️
Honestly, I'd tell any "friend" that actually believed that to go fuck off somewhere, good riddance I say. If they're just asking out of concern then that's fine, but it's not fine if they're not even trying to hear your side first. Tough times reveal who's really with you. And the relatives that believe that are even worse if they're closely related, they should know.your character at that point. And my coworkers wouldn't even know about my personal life to begin with, wouldn't even know who my girlfriend even is.
It's shocking how people can get when they think society will give them permission to be awful. One of my best friends did something stupid (nothing physical) and when the police came to talk to him he confessed and everything was settled out of court. There was a guy who was our classmate for 12 years but who was responsible for churning the craziest rumor mill about my friend once his legal issues became known, like how the police only got the confession out of my friend after sticking a broom up his ass.
@@RunawayYe And I'm not saying your friend is a r@pist by the way, wasn't even addressing that really. But if I was fighting a legal battle no one would know unless I specifically told them. No one. I don't tell acquaintances my personal issues, it's no one's business except my own.
@@Crese1947 I understand what you mean, I was just saying that rumors start out of nowhere, you don't even have to say anything to anyone, people have a tendency to somehow hear stuff about you and then start making up stories about you. Especially if you live in a smaller town.
@@RunawayYe The video exemplifies every single thing I've said. Everyone was quick to leave when the girlfriend started making shit up. She made a false statement, rumors spread (People tell other people and the telephone effect or whatever comes into play), and instead of confronting their friend about what they've heard and hearing his story they assumed he was in the wrong by default. If you just need to hear one bad thing about someone to cut them off and shit talk them then you were never a friend to begin with. It's that simple. You hear about your friend allegedly doing something bad? You pick up a phone and call him to understand the situation and do whatever you can to help out. Those people in that video were acquaintances, not friends.
@@RunawayYe And rumors don't just appear out of thin air, someone has to spread them. The girlfriend in the video started the rumor. In school? Gossiping about someone and making shit up about them is a way to create a rumor. When I was in school people thought I've been to jail before. A friend told me about the rumor, I said let em believe what they want to believe, doesn't mean nothing in the end. No serious rumors or lies were spread about me though, wouldn't have affected me if they did though (No higher would have believed it regardless because of my clean record).
So glad he had the common sense to leave her. Also, it's clear why her parents aren't too involved with her, she's just a rebellious child and stomps on anyone who trys to help her
Hope OP realizes that she lost him, not the other way round. With the closest people still backing him up, nothing should matter anyways. She can shimmy with Jhon.
If my boyfriend too close with his girl best friend (which luckily he don't have one) i'll be sooo mad i swear, this girl, not only did she act like that, but she also lied, ignored op's feelings, and made up stories. Simply breaking up and being kicked out is too good for her. A petty person like me will publish everything about her on social networks and make her life more terrible than what she is currently experiencing.
Took me a bit to remember, but yeah,, she was not raped in my opinion. Things got about too rough and she couldn't hide the evidence and instead of being honest, throws another lie ontop of it all. Dude is better off without her.
> happy relationship > significant other (the girl) might be cheating in it which OP doesn't know. > gets invited to party > OP is too busy to go but his girl goes despite him telling her how hes uncomfortable with her going. > john goes > flirting and taking upstairs (which op didn't know of till sam told him) > fooling in the bedroom, then rape. > girl raped is somewhere unconcious > gets took to hospital > bla bla > sam calls op that op's girl cheated on him > utter devastation
I had something similar happen to me. But no police were informed. I was just an idiot who believed she was “roped” and did everything I could to help her.. up until 4 or 5 guys sent me their texts and videos of the train that night and her initiating it, messed me up for a while tbh
Never let your wife/girlfriend go to a party without you, it's relationship suicide. No it's not "insecure" it's called a boundary to protect you from things like this happening.
I saw on czech news some bozo girl went on a girls night out and followed a stranger she met at the club to the hotel room, and well... what she thought was a private affair turned out to be a public gangbang party 😂 she went to the police and reported it as "rape" but only after "servicing" all the men involved 😂 someone would say "victim blaming" not okay to make fun of her and all that jazz. But how much of a victim you are if you go out to cheat on your partner in the club with some guy you never met before. Sounds more like bad case of play stupid games, win stupid prizes to me.
2:30 This happy and peaceful music playing in the background, while he describes what happened, makes watching beginning of this video such a ridiculous experience :D Like they say, it's all about the contrast!
100% the op is responsible for his situation. You don't stay in a relationship with a woman who insists on having "friends" like John. Right at the beginning of the relationship it should have been a him or me situation. This guy should have found his backbone years ago.
Agreed, she had probably been cheating on him with John for a very long time. The fact she was fine with him acting weird in front of OP is just a massive red flag. Those 'secret gatherings' they had probably weren't just to do hard drugs, but s*x too. John could even be her dealer and that's how she paid for goods. This time they just happened to be doing it again, but he went too far on her. Same for the other girls who showed up later, and that'd be why they didn't accuse him earlier.
Unfortunately this happens quite often when someone is brought up by very religious, controlling, and frankly, unloving parents. My brother dated someone like this. She was rejected by her parents & would cut herself and blame my brother for "wanting to let her kill herself." Talk about emotional abuse. He ended it and, in fact, she is still alive. Hopefully seeking therapy.
Even though she got r-worded, she led the guy on, made out with him, and went to a secluded area with him, she literally put herself in harm's way then expects sympathy, ladies please even if you like parties do not expect everyone to not try to get in your pants through any means possible
I honestly don't believe it was SA. In actuality the woman was proved to be lying about a lot. Why couldn't she have been lying about the SA? I mean yeah she had injuries and all. But people can be into some really disgusting and rough sexual interactions. So those injuries could be explained by other things other than just SA. I'm not trying to downplay the fact that it could be possible that she actually did. But I don't see it being likely because of how much she lied about the entire ordeal. And not only that, but I don't believe her when she said that she was only making out with him. I don't have any proof to actually back this last statement that I am going to make. But it only makes sense to me that she could be lying about only making out with him, because if she is comfortable with him groping her in front of her boyfriend. Then they must have been doing more sexual activities during these "Girls Nights". But that last part is only speculation.
@@alduinsvoice1348 No I just didn't feel like making the paragraph longer than it was by putting how women like to hop on the bandwagon of crying r*pe. Although I'm not sure if it was actually true that John did it to those other women. For all we know those women could have just been trying to make the girlfriend's story of r*pe more believable.
@@Hybrid-vy8lm yeah, I can confirm that and there are multiple evidences as well, best examples are just to look up multiple false allegations from famous people, e.g. johnny depp, neymar etc.
Shrooms arent hard drugs, even though they're schedule 1. Psychedelics can be sacred. Weed and alcohol are fine too. Anything else though is not good. Also, gentlemen, stay single.
This dude did more than most people would've, had a heart of gold and showed compassion even though he wasn't obligated to do so and from what i understand he got fucked over.
She was still going to cheat regardless of the fact it went further 🤷 if she didn’t put herself in that situation she wouldn’t have never been in it… turns out the bad boy you where going to replace your kind hearted boyfriend with was intact not just a bad boy but a demon in disguise. No sympathy from me sorry. Also John would be 6 feet deep just for the fun of it if that were me.
"We'll pay for your school if you stay local" is pretty understandable. That's just a stipulation for a free ride, much like any other paid for or funded degree. The GI bill stipulates more than that.
We as adults are equally responsible for the situations we put ourselves in willingly as others are for the actions they take against us. Very sad story, but the moral is that a woman without the basic decency or common sense to not put herself in such disastrous situations or listen to the concerns or wishes of her partner is NOT partner material.
I was in a similar situation in the past. Guy friend forced himself onto my ex. But she was the one flirting with him all night and even went home with him instead of me after a party (she said he was going to take her home and she'll meet me at home). I waited up all night from 12am till 2am for her to come home. That coming Monday, a coworker of mine (who lived with the guy) said he saw them together go into his room and heard all of it. I just ended up kicking her out of my apartment and cut her out of my life. The way I looked at it was she ignored me, flirted with another dude all night, went home with him (didnt even tell me they were going to his place), went into the bedroom together so she can cheat on me, got cold feet, she got forced on, came home and didn't say a word, her choices, per problems. She ended up going back to her parents who lived a couple hours away.
What the fuck did she expect to accomplish by lying about him on social media? The guy isn't even rich, and their relation was well beyond redemption. Did she just destroy the guy's reputation and sanity out of spite?
With stories like these this is just leading to the word rape no longer having any meaning. On top of that, it's really sad for those who actually have been because good people that would support them will hear stuff like this and doubt cautiously before immediately supporting them. Something really needs to be done with these false allegations
Every person in this story has some accountability for what happened, but OP only barely. I really, really, REALLY understand his situation because I've been in a similar but not quite as severe situation. Unfortunately, I really don't think OP could have actually stopped this. The only correct choice in hindsight would have been for OP to make an ultimatum, and that is always a dangerous move to make in the moment. I really hope OP can work to not let this destroy his ability to trust, but rather develop his ability to see through lies and properly stand against them, instead of just being like "oh well, I tried." When he confronts her about being uncomfortable with John's behavior and she brushes it off, that should be a red flag that she doesn't actually care about how you feel about the relationship, just that it still continues so she can feed off you. While she is for the streets, that doesn't mean she should be forever screwed. I am no arbiter of fate, but I really think the only way she can come out a better person is to be abandoned. It's harsh, and I truly hope it doesn't break her, but especially with her experience with shrooms, she should have the ability to say to herself "man, that was fucked up. I fucked up, got fucked up, now it's all fucked up. Only way from here is up, but damn this is going to be a slow, long, painful, difficult journey." If she's anything like me, and if I'm anything like most people, she'll start doing good for a short time, and then something will happen that will back her into a corner (not literally, figuratively) and an important decision will be made to either panic and do everything she can to escape, or to remember her shrooms experiences and to relax, stay calm, keep going, and to swing WITH the ride, not against it. Even the hardships of life, are all just a giant trip in the end ;) We can all agree John is a fucked up person and deserves whatever he has coming for him, but I still like to think people even this bad can change. It really comes down to whether or not he will accept his fate and repent (purgatory) or deny his repentance and try to skip it (go to hell). OP never said if John specifically did shrooms (at least I don't remember), but if he has done shrooms and still does not have it in him to see the error in his ways and to actually want to make up for it, then he's probably committed to not repenting. TLDR: OP got screwed but could have avoided it. Girl was a wretch and paid the price (certainly and undeserved extreme though) but has experienced a defining moment to turn things around for the better. John is a piece of shit who deserves the worst, and HOPEFULLY, the worst will wake him up to a better way, but probably not. I like to be optimistic but I'm very aware a lot of people do not wish to face consequences, and facing the consequences actually makes you a better person, it's not just the price you pay.
Honestly i don’t even believe she was raped. She’s a terrible person and she 100% didn’t tell the full truth to the OP. If she was going out on girl’s nights EVERY WEEKEND I’m willing to bet that she’s been cheating on him for the entire relationship.
@@alishayin5267 Of course there were drugs in her system, she was taking drugs. Voluntarily. As for the marks, that's just rough sacks. Doesn't mean grape. Considering she was polishing this john dude on the regular before, it almost certainly wasn't.
No one is ready for this conversation, but this all happened because he didn't want to look like he was "controling" her. All woman who describe boundaries as "being controlling" deserve all that comes to them as a consequence of not respecting those boundaries.
being in a similar situation, I can agree in the end it was a hard choice, but you made the right one. Regardless of the R- situation, she was already in the mind state to go out and cheat. It's unfortunate that's the way it played out regardless of her motives. Of course, it complicates the situation, and I think the OP did a great job managing it. Although I know Op was hesitant to break it off, it's the best thing in the long run. I can relate to the impending lost feeling afterwards. All I can say is over time it gets easier, until you start seeing "hope" again. The defamation of character part is unfair and also relatable. I guess going through my personal circumstance it shows who was there for you in the first place. If you want to believe a story without hearing both sides, that shows your character. Great job Op I wish ya the best.
I heard this one before. I don't blame op for leaving. She still cheated on him and got more than she bargained for. I hope op is living his best life.
Same. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes, deal with the consequences on your own. Sure, feel bad for OP's ex-GF, but she's going to have to deal with it on her own.
Reminds me of the one 4 chan story about a dude who told his gf several times
No don't go to a notoriously seedy club especially alone because he was tired from working all week.
She went got graped and op dumped her fast.
Both Bs knew what they were doing. She / they both of them wanted to cheat. The issue was the guy(s) she (both of them) wanted to cheat with wanted to push more and thus she realized she wasn't in control but too late.
Cheating is still cheating in the end in this context and both guys should dump their gfs with that outcome.
Goes without saying for any guy that has this happen to them.
@@fumothfan9You got the link for the story?
@@fumothfan9link?
Rape is terrible but at the same time it probably would have never got raped if she tried being a decent person so.......l
When it was a story of SA, his response was warranted.
When it was a story of cheating, his response was warranted.
When she tried to extirpate his reputation because he realized she was cheating, it just proves she was never the person he thought she was. I would have kicked her out immediately, and at this point, I think I'd say it's her fault.
agreed. i'd also completely oust her on social media instead of doing damage control person by person.
Of course it’s her fault. Not so much the R* but she was being flirty and leading a guy upstairs privately. I’d consider dumping my girl if this entire time she was doing harder drugs and flirting with literally anymore but me. Play stupid games win stupid prizes
Should've recorded the interaction, but love makes a fool out of all of us.
for sure her fault
@@ryanbolton1044
Lol the grape was her fault also there's a reason nobody cared about promiscuous women getting graped in the past how do you know & why give a shit? Sluts are sluts.
Bros before hoes should be in the back of every guys mind.
Jesus man. That girlfriend was such an awful person. She lost the best boyfriend she’ll ever have. Hope this man gets the emotional help he needs.
Sam MVP
Sam carry the story
Nah bf saw the red flags and left BEFORE he got messed up by the ex gf and escaped relatively undamaged
@@fumothfan9yh thank god btw nice pfp
@@fumothfan9you got that pic from muse na....😂😂
What makes him the best bf? He basicly dumos her and tells her he doesn't wanna even see her right after getting r*ped. I mean yeah she fucked up but he's not an angel.
The Aftermath of the breakup with the death threats shows you what kind of person Sarah is and how manipulative she can be. I hope OP recovers
I am just surprised he wasn't kicked out of school for "making her feel unsafe." I actually saw a case where a guy has fought 10 years against being kicked out for a false allegation.
@@Maninawig He said this was not in 'Murica
@@sincorddnb9155 true, but sadly the ideology has spread to Canada... I dunno how far it spread to other places in the western world.
@@Maninawig Canada is far far worse than America in this regard. In fact this woke cancer has metastasized over there
I don't even believe she was raped
She lied about getting dragged and lied about the person she had closest in her time of need to the whole wide world, then she admits to make out with Jonh before that party and does anyone actually believed that they only kissed or something? From kissing you go to smashing in a matter of seconds, with all her lies and what she was willing to do to him after he broke up with her !BUT STILL LET HER STAY! I don't believe she just kissed a dude a few times, it's just not credible
Yeah making out is a domino effect. They totally smashed. Shame on them.
I don't think anyone bought that crap, it is so BS.
I don't even believe the rape after that
Yeah, seems hard to believe they only kissed once before. Even if the grape is true she's a massive walking red flag and OP is entirely right to distance himself from that. His "friends" also sound like terrible people honestly, except Sam.
The hospital verified that she WAS drugged and roped. But ... she did go to cheat and had gone with John to the room. John had drugged 2 other women and roped them as well. John evidently gets off on drugging them and being violent to them.
I like how OP was giving her WAYYY more support than she deserved and in return for his generosity she stabbed him in the back and ruined his social life. Bro was literally just trying to reinforce his boundaries and end a relationship that was beyond saving. Just goes to show how cold some women can be.
And in the end, he *STILL* let her stay another 2 weeks rent free after she fully outed herself as a lying psychopath and destroyed his reputation. I'm sorry but OP was a naive fool. He didn't deserve someone as awful as her, of course, but he was a fool.
CAUSE HE AN ADAM 22 CUCK
Average druggie
His fault for trusting a cheater. Some people can be too nice sometimes that they end up getting stupid because of it. Once someone backstabbed you, never trust them again. In short, don't be like this guy
@@purplegalaxy7231 I'd say we all should be like this guy. It was a long relationship, and he was trusting without really trusting, so I guess he did his best. Tried to be the best he can, and even tho she backstabbed him, he wasn't the good guy. The one that needs to exist nowadays. But I got your point of view
she for the streets, not worth a second thought. let her go enjoy the fruits of her labor. she is a strong, independant woman, and can make her own choices.
she never cared about the op, and the fact he let her stay is tragic. don't do that. a cheater gets the goddamn boot.
She literally just wanted an ATM lol...Rent is so dang high right now.
if a man cheats on his gf he doesn't belong to the streets, so why does the woman get called that? You sexist piece of shit
Damn first dude in years that I see with a NOD pfp
that's what i thought for the whole video, she belongs to the streets
as a representative of the streets, do not insult us like that. She is for the sewers
dude honestly I would just get with Sam instead at this point.
Okay but seriously, I felt bad for both of them at first and this sounded like a tragic story but I lost all hope when he said she framed him for abuse and ruined his life. As someone who's been sexually harassed, I don't feel a single ounce of remorse for this woman. I could care less what happened to her, she still did something horrible.
OP, BE GAY FOR SAM!!!
SAM TEAM WHERE U AT ?!
Frodo, Jon, Captain America and now OP. Everyone really needs a Sam in their life.
Seriously that Sam sounds like a great guy
Sam gang RISE UP
From the sheer amount of times she was caught lying in the whole story, and then publically lied in the end to ruin OPs life, we can surmise that everything else was likely a lie too. The most likely story is that she went up to the bedroom with John to do hard drugs and cheat on OP. Both her and John were probably drugged, but he's a sick b*stard and went too hard on her. If he didn't cause so much damage they'd likely call it a day and brush it under the rug. It's also likely that she's already cheated on him with John multiple times given how fine she is with John being creepy and possessive around her and how they've secretly gathered to do hard drugs multiple times. All I can say is this terrible incident made OP dodge a massive bullet, so there's a silver lining.
John literally touches her breast when she's in bikinis without her blowing him off even with her bf around, and OP really thinks nothing between those two happened?
They've been knocking boots together for a long time. OP is just an ATM.
She liked it hard with John, but they got too caught in the moment and unlike previous times he left her too bruised to hide it, so she had to come up with the r*pe story to justify it.
Probably what happened. It sickens me to think about it but i could see that girl framing that guy as a rapist to get out of a hairy situation. Its always a red flag when male friends are close like that to girls, especially when drugs are involved.
@@ricoarmstrong7440 And now you know why women always react badly when told their creepy male friends are creepy. They are evolved to be the best liars ever to exist.
Yea, most women claim rope when they either regret it, or they need to manipulate a situation. Most of these women just like to sleep around with no consequences. It is what it is
It's scary how one person's false story can turn everything and everyone against you.
happens my man. all the more reason why men got to be more stoic
@@hiteshnankani644 I agree
Happens a lot, but real Friends always stay at your side or try to figure the truth in both, fake people always believe crying girlies
my dude we literally had a decades long judge nearly loose his position for the supreme court cause a woman claimed he did something 20 years ago.
The problem is that woman are believed blindly
Women for you
Either she lied to you about her drug usage, or she lied to you about why she was in the room with him, either way a breakup is warranted
It seems she lied about both.
I feel this person was/is naive and was manipulated and the situation was complicated. Hope they're doing better.
Yeah OP is being manipulated, the ending says it all. Its like the gf is out to destroy her friend and bf, sad
Mans was definitely naive. he let her walk all over him, he's softer than a teddy bear lmao
@@hotel_arcadia "Soft"? He is one of the most solid man I have ever heard about. Despiste being betrayed in many levels he kept his integrity and acted wisely. Supporting someone who offended you takes real emotional strength, it is the opposite of "soft". He was not naive, he gave chances mindfully, and when she ultimately showed who she truly was, he rightfully cut her off.
Someone like you calling him "soft" shows that you're absolutelly shallow and has no emotional intelligence.
I mean he's a spineless idiot. I'm not insulting just to insult. But the guy was not only extremely dumb ("naive") but an extreme pushover with no integrity as a dude. She lied to him at every single corner over the course of 2 years and he STILL let her live at his place until October.
@@hotel_arcadia says the tedder bear lmao dumbass
Sue the girlfriend for defamation
I like you
For what she has mo money like op states, not worth the cost
listening to a mans life falling apart while eating pineapple slices in juice
I wonder if she was like this as a teenager. That could be the real reason her parents washed their hands of her. They are probably done with her shenanigans. Drug users tend to put themselves in bad situations. Her wanting drugs put her in the position she's in. To cover her own butt she says she's raped to cover the fact she's using and was planning to cheat. It's crazy how people cheat knowing full well if they get caught they will be thrown out. She's ungrateful and self entitled thinking the world owes her something.
There’s also a case of high school girls who lied about being rape and jumping into the bandwagon about being rape.
As a woman this is very devastating and at the same time absolutely disgusting. No I’m sorry this whole culture of drugs , no boundaries between male-female friendships and partying is disgusting. I don’t care if I’m being disrespectful or judgemental, from what I have seen and from all the cases of cheating addictions that I’ve read about in such environments , I feel that nothing can convince me that it could somehow be acceptable. Nothing. I’m not even 18 yet, but if I’m ever looking for a partner, ain’t no way I’m allowing both him and myself to do such things and I think that everyone has the right to demand this small thing from their partner, because loyalty and commitment is the least one can do to maintain a serious relationship and this rule should be set beforehand. So everyone and especially guys, don’t feel that you are possessive or that you’re limiting your girl’s freedom when you’re asking for her commitment, because if she is reluctant to do such an easy thing, then she has something to hide and she’s no keeper.
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ur amazing ily
God I wish I had been born in the US, here in France the girls in my high school (and basically in the whole country) are absolutely insane, you guys seem to have some rational ones, enjoy it because we don't all have that
@@Stormyy6310 What the fuck is happening in France where you think the US has the "rational ones"?
@@Stormyy6310No US here is worse dude 👀
Been single for 3 years now, my last girl constantly tried to push me to hit her and assaulted me many times which I resisted and tried to get her out of the house but every day that passed just was getting worse by she trying to tell people that I was the one assaulting her even made an scene in front of my whole family crying saying that she gave me money all the time (which was 200% the opposite) and that I would hit her almost everyday…. That’s fine but the most messed up part was my family not questioning that for a damn second and jumping on her side… my emotions can’t even be described, first time my family have seen me cry ever since I was like a 7 year old kid (I was 23 at the time) I am 26 now. But yeah funny enough my other ex before that one was just like the one OP mentioned and I’ve learned that there’s nothing physically more beautiful than women but at the same time nothing more evil…..
sorry that you had to deal with that
its shame for a family to abandon their son just like that without even letting him speak
but at least now you know you cant trust them to have your back
i hope you found great friends to build a life with
@@killer-ox4rp I appreciate it I hope we all get the love we deserve. family is not who you’re born with, is who you die for. 🙌🏻
Sorry you went through that my dude. I hope you find the one and you're living your best life
Man, record it and put cam in your house.
Nothing hurt me more than women. And they went out of their way to hurt me. I just can't really trust them, and almost every time I didn't I am glad about. There is only one women that I kinda trusted and she broke that trust, but eventually, using her being really hot and flirting and suggesting she wants to sleep with me (which she never in the 8 years we have been friends had done or had happened and since I honestly just hated her and at the moment was only open to use her for sex, since I always found her very attractive physically) we started having contact again, but when we met she took back everything she said with the really sexual stuff she wanted me to do to her, basically she got cold feet and I blocked her after that for like a month (the only person I have ever blocked). Until she kept calling me and we started talking and I told her most of the shit that she does and says that makes me wanna throw up, especially stuff where she basically lied to me and treated me worse than anyone else (one thing was that at the beginning of our friendship I would hug her, like all my friends and I love that, but she told me, she doesn't waant to be hugged, that she doesn't like physical contact and I found that sad, but respected it and never hugged her again, but then I started meeting more friends and coworkers of her and she not only would hug them, but have tons of physical contact with them, like partially as much as couples would have, not friends. When we met again after all that time where she just ghosted me in a time of need (my gf had broken up with me) I go in for a hug (after all this time and all the other bs she had done) and she stopps me and has the audacity to lie to my face and tell me she doesn't like physical contact after that I blocked her for a month. Now we hug when we meet and she told me she is probably bad, since she isn't used to doing that with me but she's open to trying that (I tell her everything I dislike about how she treats me everytime she does and I told her that I love and need physical contact and stopped it with her, because I respected her wishes, which turned out to be lies and I didn't have any physical contact with no one since I lost basically all my friends, since most were fake and some good ones just followed paths in live that seperated us and I only had that contact with my gf, which then broke up with me). Well now she recognizes that I am literally the only person that is there for her and she can trust fully and the only person she can count on and also thanking me for being me and existing and being such a great person. She is supposed to have a bf, but it's a pretty unhealthy relationship. It feels great that she tells me all that stuff kinda the first time, but i feel like I can't still count on her, because I told her a day to meet up after she told me she wants to meet up with me and she agreed to that day and then shy went studying with a school friend instead and another day I called her (which rarely happenes, usually she calls me) and she told me she can't rn, but she'll have time at 16:00 o clock, so I call her and she tells me she can't because she is in a call with other people and didn't call me back that day. I wished I had other friends here, since I probably would stop having contact with her if I did since her actions tell me she doesn't really apreciates or respects me.
Acting single in a relationship and then when confronted cries and has a panic attack. No accountability. Like murdering someone then crying about it.
Isn't it kind of poetic justice? Instant karma, don't even need revenge; they're already broken.
Just too bad she decided to take OP down with her.
I'm at the beginning of the video. I was r@ped as a child. I'm 37 now and yes it does break you. Many r@pe victims k*ll themselfs. I tried to end myself too as a teeanger and I can't guarantee I won't ever try again.
You might not understand what r@pe does to someones mind, but it is bad. Way worse than cheating. It's like someone stole something and you sentence the person to d3@th. You can't compare it.
Your words are just cruel.
stop using sex as punishment
@@LuluGen689 God did, I didn't.
Karma comes in all forms@@LuluGen689
"u are over reacting" = she's cheating
Sam is the real G.
Hope everything turns for the better for OP.
She has "known him for so long" yet not once did she manage to pick up on the fact that the dude is a creep let alone care enough about her relationship todo the right thing and not mingle with a guy who clearly has an interest in her. She made her bed she can lay in it. I wouldn't have given her time to recover at all. You did this to yourself. Get out of my home. Its not rocket science. You cant care for people like her. She is a danger to herself.
Typical female.
It didn't matter to her if he was a creep. He gave her free drugs. That's the only thing that mattered to her.
This is what happens when you don't set boundaries and stand by them.
Dude invested way more time and emotion into this than I would have. Like, "Oh, you were cheating on me? Welp... Don't let the door hit you on the way out."
To be fair the fact she was raped could make the full story hard to find. If it was a simple case of her cheating, then he probably would have taken action way quicker
It happened to his girlfriend, and then two other girls came forward with the same story, coincidentally, two other people posted an almost identical story in the same forum a couple of weeks earlier.
First, her tox screen showed ketamine, then, it only showed fentanyl.
A difficult part of telling a complicated lie is trying to maintain the details.
Definitely was a big lie when she said it was fentanyl lmao... A microgram of that can end your life. So obvious that was a stupid lie lol.... But man OP was really dumb or simpin hard to ignore so many red flags.
THANK YOU! I was scrolling to find at least one other person besides me who caught how fake this is. Don't forget that she was supposedly already starting to have sex with him, yet he drugged and raped her. Two other victims. Evidence of date rape drugs. Evidence of rape. But we are still supposed to buy that she was openly cheating on OP in front of his friends. I stopped halfway through. My brain was twitching at the stupidity.
These modern women are insufferable. They will ruin a man's life just to avoid accountability and shame.
It's not about modern women. In my country, something similar happened. A girl (15) had a relationship with her cousin (?). When she got accidently pregnant, she said "i was r by John (not his real name of course i really can't remember this poor lads name). And unfortunately John got k*ll*d by that girls father. And after that, she confessed. And this girl was not a modern woman, she was a conservative girl living in the countryside.I don't want to say too much because she is a young girl, after all she was also afraid of her father. But that doesn't change the fact that what she did was disgusting and that it cost the life of another innocent young boy (17). This is just fckn sad. And this kind of slander reflects badly on the real victims. Anyways, like i said, its not about modern women.
@@jude1561 What country are you in?
Not modern women, just evil women. A minority of women are like Sarah
@@jude1561what are you talking about? That's a modern woman, you said she was currently 17 or whatever
@@johncrow2852 you dont understand what modern woman means broooo
The “male” friend situation has to be addressed at the start of any relationship. If that “male” friend crosses boundaries and your girl doesn’t see it as a big deal then walk away. So many times in these stories the bf doesn’t want to seem “insecure”, only to end up with his gf/fiancé/wife cheating on him with the “male” friend. OP wasted 2 years with this liar.
She basically just cheated, john just got way too excited
exactly. OP is the type to get cheated on (didn’t stand up for sara when she was getting grabbed by john) and sara is the one to get r’d (i’m wording this bad so i’m censoring it) by john because she left an open pocket. they were pretty much already intimate and John got too excited
LOL
It sucks what happened, and I'm glad OP left, but I'm going to quote something from this story to explain why OP is the type to get cheated on.
"Some of the behavior from John towards Sarah that made me uncomfortable throughout the course of our relationship are, constantly making comments about her body. Putting his arms around her every chance he could. Asking her to go on a trip to Europe last summer, just the two of them. Poking her breast when she's wearing tight clothing, saying things like I'm lucky I met her when I did, or she would have been with him by now."
Now remember this an almost 2-year relationship, and John has "blatantly flirted with Sarah for the entirety of the relationship and made occasional passes". OP didn't have the spine to set firm boundaries and let his girl and John disrespect him. John was straight up groping his girl, and OP didn't say or do anything about it. In the above quote by OP, 2 out of 5 examples are about John being physically inappropriate to the point of even poking her breast. 2 out of 5 examples are of John wanting to be with Sarah. Before you defend him, answer this. If you're a man, would you be cool with your girlfriend's closest male friend poking her breast and suggesting that if you weren't in the picture, they would be together? Same for if you're a woman, would you be cool with your closest male friend poking you in the breast and suggesting to your boyfriend that if he wasn't in the picture, you guys would be together?
Let's be real here, OP is a doormat. This doesn't mean he deserves to be cheated on, simply that his lack of a spine makes him a perfect candidate for cheating and disrespect.
you are making it sound like op is responsible for those events when then too it should have clearly been his gf setting boundaries with john. what can op do other than expect his gf to not let another guy touch her chest ? john is human waste but its not his responsibility to keep their relationship functioning. his gf should have cut off contact with john after him repeatedly crossing boundaries, op should have broken up with her if she didnt want to do so
@@phae_c OP is not responsible for any of those events. However, he is responsible for the manner in which he responds. I think people don't understand what setting boundaries actually mean. Simply saying "I don't like when you do that" or "I don't feel comfortable with that" is not setting boundaries. That's expressing how you feel. Boundaries are backed with consequences that are then enforced when said boundaries are broken. Yes, in an ideal world, his girlfriend should be a mature and decent human being. However, in an ideal world, he would also have a spine.
Unfortunately, we don't live in an ideal world, which is why boundaries exist. Unfortunately, he met a woman with loose morals and poor boundaries. Nobody is disputing the fact that she's a horrible human. What I'm also suggesting is to hold him accountable. If you want to have a world where men are strong and good, then you need to be able to call out and hold weak and bad men accountable. OP was a weak man, which boggles my mind why you are defending weak men? This kind of crap doesn't happen to strong men. It's not that women won't cheat on strong men, but strong men see the red flags, have firm boundaries and enforce them with consequences. The big thing here is enforcing.
OP's lack of a spine and refusal to enforce boundaries made his girlfriend's actions acceptable. For example, if your girlfriend is being groped by her friends, and all you do is say you don't like it but continue being in a relationship with her, then guess what? You're saying that though you don't like her actions, you accept that behavior in your relationship. Which then you can't blame your girlfriend for doing what you have deemed acceptable. The same thing goes for the men and women that take back a cheating partner. All that means is that though you were hurt by the actions, you still accept it in your relationship.
Since you want to side up for OP. Let me ask you this. If for 2 years you were constantly talking about how your girlfriend's/wife's relationship with her male best friend was inappropriate, and he was doing all the things John was doing, What would you do? How long would you have tried to keep pleading your discomfort? How would you have handled it? What boundaries would you have had, and how would you have enforced them? In answering these questions, you are going to come up with a realization that OP has zero control over his girlfriend. The only actions he could have taken were actions to himself and for himself, but he was WEAK. Remember, multiple things can be true. The girlfriend was scum and OP was weak. Scummy people do scummy things to others, and weak people don't do anything, resulting in getting walked all over.
@@Rocko2552 im not sure if i can answer your question well, since i cant very well see myself in the position of a man needing to avoid being "weak", and i dont think the same responsibility is placed on women. to answer anyway, if my bf were to let other women continuously be inappropriate, i would bring it up a few times that its obviously unacceptable, and if he doesnt want to change anything then id have to leave, as i cant change what is in his control and his responsibility.
@@phae_ches not responsible the guy was a d bag and his gf disrespected him.
He is responsible for being a doormat letting them walk all over him and having it happen.
Any self respecting man would tell his gf thats not okay and tell the other dude to f off or else. 2nd time it happens gf gets dumped. 3rd time isnt there because thats when they cheat on you.
@@fumothfan9 yes thats how it should be really
Trying to spread hate towards him is wild shows how evil she truly is
yeah she cheated and regrets it. i wouldnt call this rape. as soon as you lie about being dragged somewhere you lose all credibility. i knew a few girls I grew up with who did stuff like this (they admitted it to me). cheat then cry r*pe because they regret it. she led john on. led him upstairs to a room. where she wanted drugs from him. ive been to enough parties to know how that works. she couldnt hide her infidelity so she framed him for rape.
This is an absolute shit take. She did a bad thing, but with this guy having a history of raping women who initially consented, I think it's obvious what happened.
This
your very naive but dont worry life will change that. there is so much wrong with her ever changing story. like for instance she said she was drugged with meth and then ketamine. one is a stimulant the other is a tranquilizer. you cant confuse the two. also we dont even know if she really went to the hospital. we know there was no police report. we know she went up there willingly to get drugs. these are all things she told us. nothing about this says r*pe. it says "i sucked dick for coke and now regret it" shes a liar. @@oliverstray1040
no, she definitely got raped, the guy has too much of a record for it to be a lie and consent may be taken away. I think she consented at first when druggd, then thought of OP for a second (which isnt an excuse, thinking of someone and regretting it while cheating isnt an excuse youre still at fault if you do that) and started to regret it, but he still went with it and rped her.
having a reputation and a record are two different things. she wasnt drugged she admitted to doing drugs. she lied about what she was supposedly "drugged" with (ketamine and meth are two completely different things everyone in that scene knows that) she was all over the guy that night in front of everyone and then went up stairs with him with them admittedly for more drugs. not only that she admitted she had been doing drugs with this guy for years secretly. given that i find it very unlikely that she now suddenly grew a conscience and revoked consent mid sex. its far more likely she got caught, knew about her friends reputation before and knew people would believe her.@@Arch-Vex
She got humbled. These types of parties and people who go to them are always a red flag.
100% Sarah's fault. Completely irresponsible and tries to have her cake and eat it way too much. Although OP should have seen something like this coming if he didn't stop John's weird behaviour when he went as far as poking her breasts.
Maybe I am just sad and have zero concept of human interaction, but the story goes to show that this life of hookup culture and drugs is just objectively bad. I would be very sceptical of anyone who isn't self-aware of this fact if they happen to indulge in that kinda life.
She has money for regular party but couldn't pay rent? Lol.
Lol naw from what the BF said she was living off of tuition loans and most likely was paying for partying and hard drugs with BJs to John the creep 🤦😂
Stay away from those who get their drugs, booze, and tattoos for "free."
@@Cyber-Rainunless you want an std ofc
Drug addicts will spend all their money on drugs. Will be "friends" with Johnny as long as he gives them drugs.
And will blame everyone else for everything, starting with parents and continuing with naive boyfriend.
An advice, don't go to therapist, she'll probably strongly defend your gf
I don't know what it's like in his country but in the US you can request a male or female therapist so it may not be a she he's speaking to. While a male therapist can still defend the gf it's not as likely.
therapists aren't really bound to help with shit like this anyway. the fact that OP is a spineless softie would just lead way to his therapist shaping his own journey of self-realization. this heartbreak is ultimately a good thing in the grand scheme, considering how fucking spineless he was prior to all of this.@@antikommunistischaktion
therapy is a female solution to problems. it doesn't matter if the therapist is male/female, there's no real sexism like that. it just doesn't help men really at all (unless we're talking victims of war crimes/etc).
@@zakariyaz8233stupid comment top to bottom
Tbh I think she just said he did that to her because she knew he’d probably tell others that they had s*x and she didn’t want people to judge her.. she’s ruining that guys fault by making up lies and then makes up lies about the OP.. she’s vile.
Glad he left and I’m glad Sam let him know the truth on the situation😅
If you are in a relationship, you do not go to a party alone. Period. Its over at that point.
What makes ot sadder is that op is so heartfelt, just wanted to be a good person, he didn’t deserve any what she did. 🥺
bruh how hard is it to understand that men knows what other men want. TRUST what YOUR man says, even best friend! if they seem to act different like uncomfortable, or aggravated when one certain man is near by. take that to heart and ask if something is up with that one person.
Men are shamed for being possessive when establishing healthy boundaries
He should have told her "No. Youre not going. And you never meet that creep again.
Take it or LEAVE."
The BF was basically a ATM machine to her. The fact that her family basically disowns her is a big red flag first and foremost. She definitely have been having sex with that childhood friend for years and OP is too dumb to realize it. She basically lied entire time. The bruises she got was from having rough sex with the John friend that left marks. Which she doesn't have a good reason to explain the bruises other than lie and say it's from grape. The entire friend group are pieces of shit from hiding and lying for her for so long too.
BF should've dumped her as soon as he heard about the cheating from SAM.....
ATM machine machine? ATM stands for Automatic Telling Machine. So Automatic telling machine machine machine.
bro chill it's an error but still lmao 😅
@@satzukaze Its a typo doubling up the word on my phone lol Your grammar nazi-ing is better off on other videos other than these.
@@sparda9060 I was just pointing it out.. I thought it was funny but okay you can twist it into an argument
Keep in mind she also had gashes and there were other victims who stepped forward abt John. She is a cheater, but I wouldn’t assert that she wasn’t assaulted
This is a key example how hookup culture has become so toxic
Hook up culture is frankly disgusting to me. It's goes against my sense of ethics
What does this have to do with hookup culture?
@@Darth_Insidious It's the worst thing that happened to men & women both.
@@JohnSmith-bs9ym It's not answering the question, it's cheating here, not just hooking up with random dude.
@@inihilisme1511 Hookup culture drastically increases the chances of stuff like this happening all over society.
Karma came quick apparently. No pity from me
Who r u 😐
This is why all my phone calls are recorded. One should be able to defend himself against such accusations. The first mistake was not dumping her after the first event. It happend after he warned her and she clearly disrespected his boundaries. He should have exposed her to her parents, dump her and in the event of her ruining his reputation come back with recordings and report a defamation attempt. That way she would have seen one's actions actually do have consequences.
It is always "Wanted an adventure." "I was not feeling you like I used to." "You were not present with me here when I needed you." Or something along the lines of that. I do not understand why people take such drastic decisions without communication and blame the circumstances or alcohol for it.
Edit: I wrote this comment in the mid of the video while listening to it still and my god, this woman really tried to cover up her drug intake from the, maybe, only right person she should talk to about this. Cases like these make me more furious and increase my disbelief in humanity.
The only thing OP did wrong was not leaving her sooner because lets be real here he kinda warranted this when John would act this way towards Sarah and she didn't call him out and tell him to stop clearly meaning there was something under the surface (she was most likely cheating then also) why she wouldn't tell him to stop his behavior or cut contact and OP not standing his ground and saying if this continues im done with you in a way he just told her he basically has no backbone and she can do whatever she wants and she did just that with "girls nights out" and purposely hiding the fact she went to parties and did drugs with John behind his back which if it was just a "Girls Night" why was John present other than to be the girls personal plumber and give them drugs which brings up my next point John is 100% a creep and Sarah and every other female involved in the story still chose to be around him and do drugs with him especially Sarah which clearly says she had the intent to cheat and had for well over a year and there's no way they didn't know of Johns creepy behavior but they still had "consensual" contact with him and Sam even proves Sarah's consensual intent. Yea only thing OP did wrong was letting her be around John and not getting rid of her way sooner and I gurantee there's still a good solid amount of things Sarah did with John that she kept on purpose to paint him as purely the bad person and she would get away scott free without OP ever knowing I gurantee the information he stated was only 2% of the entire story just what she hand picked to tell and the rest would be a "Girls Night" secret 🤣
Yep, not enough people are saying it. Having proper boundaries would've avoided this whole mess.
I've noticed that almost every situation involving a woman getting roped, she's putting herself in precarious situations. It's always the girl doing something extremely risky before getting roped. I would urge women to start moving with intelligence, but most women believe they should be able to walk down a dark alley alone and nothing bad should happen to them. They live in a world of delusion and set themselves up for failure.
The mindset that taking basic precautions is "blaming the victim" is incredibly destructive.
glad to see this mans growth in just a 15 minute video,
went from a potential step-on to an absolute chad,
MAD RESPECTS for my boi
👌👌👌👌👌👌
Edit: its sad to see how f'ed up his environment is, with mainly/only his boss siding with him,
im glad he still got through it
in a very respectable way and hope he clears out his fake friend/ family members on his socials/ restricts contact with them ☕️☕️☕️☕️
Still doormat vibes, he reached his limit but I don't think he learned his lesson
Honestly, I'd tell any "friend" that actually believed that to go fuck off somewhere, good riddance I say. If they're just asking out of concern then that's fine, but it's not fine if they're not even trying to hear your side first. Tough times reveal who's really with you.
And the relatives that believe that are even worse if they're closely related, they should know.your character at that point.
And my coworkers wouldn't even know about my personal life to begin with, wouldn't even know who my girlfriend even is.
It's shocking how people can get when they think society will give them permission to be awful. One of my best friends did something stupid (nothing physical) and when the police came to talk to him he confessed and everything was settled out of court. There was a guy who was our classmate for 12 years but who was responsible for churning the craziest rumor mill about my friend once his legal issues became known, like how the police only got the confession out of my friend after sticking a broom up his ass.
@@RunawayYe
And I'm not saying your friend is a r@pist by the way, wasn't even addressing that really. But if I was fighting a legal battle no one would know unless I specifically told them. No one. I don't tell acquaintances my personal issues, it's no one's business except my own.
@@Crese1947 I understand what you mean, I was just saying that rumors start out of nowhere, you don't even have to say anything to anyone, people have a tendency to somehow hear stuff about you and then start making up stories about you. Especially if you live in a smaller town.
@@RunawayYe
The video exemplifies every single thing I've said. Everyone was quick to leave when the girlfriend started making shit up. She made a false statement, rumors spread (People tell other people and the telephone effect or whatever comes into play), and instead of confronting their friend about what they've heard and hearing his story they assumed he was in the wrong by default.
If you just need to hear one bad thing about someone to cut them off and shit talk them then you were never a friend to begin with. It's that simple.
You hear about your friend allegedly doing something bad? You pick up a phone and call him to understand the situation and do whatever you can to help out.
Those people in that video were acquaintances, not friends.
@@RunawayYe
And rumors don't just appear out of thin air, someone has to spread them. The girlfriend in the video started the rumor.
In school? Gossiping about someone and making shit up about them is a way to create a rumor. When I was in school people thought I've been to jail before. A friend told me about the rumor, I said let em believe what they want to believe, doesn't mean nothing in the end.
No serious rumors or lies were spread about me though, wouldn't have affected me if they did though (No higher would have believed it regardless because of my clean record).
So glad he had the common sense to leave her. Also, it's clear why her parents aren't too involved with her, she's just a rebellious child and stomps on anyone who trys to help her
The rape is not on her, the actions prior to that were, and are tantamount to cheating with multiple eye witnesses that confirmed her actions prior.
Modern relationships I swear but good thing I knew my girl since childhood.
So did john 👁👄👁
Hope OP realizes that she lost him, not the other way round. With the closest people still backing him up, nothing should matter anyways. She can shimmy with Jhon.
I am sorry for this man. Wherever he is now, I hope he finds peace
I don’t, weak men are half of what’s wrong with the world. Soft little twat, Tate for President
If my boyfriend too close with his girl best friend (which luckily he don't have one) i'll be sooo mad i swear, this girl, not only did she act like that, but she also lied, ignored op's feelings, and made up stories. Simply breaking up and being kicked out is too good for her. A petty person like me will publish everything about her on social networks and make her life more terrible than what she is currently experiencing.
bro the guy who explained the story deserved someone so much better
Took me a bit to remember, but yeah,, she was not raped in my opinion.
Things got about too rough and she couldn't hide the evidence and instead of being honest, throws another lie ontop of it all.
Dude is better off without her.
it was rape
how he described it it was rape, but I also think she was initially down until she got drugged and he did stuff she didn't want.
@@katya.g524 yeah? what did the judge say?
@@katya.g524 yeah? what did the judge say?
@@erraldstyler what does. that have to do with anything lol
> happy relationship
> significant other (the girl) might be cheating in it which OP doesn't know.
> gets invited to party
> OP is too busy to go but his girl goes despite him telling her how hes uncomfortable with her going.
> john goes
> flirting and taking upstairs (which op didn't know of till sam told him)
> fooling in the bedroom, then rape.
> girl raped is somewhere unconcious
> gets took to hospital
> bla bla
> sam calls op that op's girl cheated on him
> utter devastation
What is OP
original poster; the guy who posted the story @@manhoosnick
Original poster
Karma really didnt let that one slide for her
I had something similar happen to me. But no police were informed. I was just an idiot who believed she was “roped” and did everything I could to help her.. up until 4 or 5 guys sent me their texts and videos of the train that night and her initiating it, messed me up for a while tbh
That's really fucked up
Never let your wife/girlfriend go to a party without you, it's relationship suicide. No it's not "insecure" it's called a boundary to protect you from things like this happening.
If you have to control your wife or gf, its already over
I saw on czech news some bozo girl went on a girls night out and followed a stranger she met at the club to the hotel room, and well... what she thought was a private affair turned out to be a public gangbang party 😂 she went to the police and reported it as "rape" but only after "servicing" all the men involved 😂 someone would say "victim blaming" not okay to make fun of her and all that jazz. But how much of a victim you are if you go out to cheat on your partner in the club with some guy you never met before.
Sounds more like bad case of play stupid games, win stupid prizes to me.
Anyway never go to the law university
The way I see it, if you lied about being faithful, you lied about the rape too.
2:30 This happy and peaceful music playing in the background, while he describes what happened, makes watching beginning of this video such a ridiculous experience :D
Like they say, it's all about the contrast!
It's AI content, of course it's ridiculous lol
Nice. She saw what she’s gonna get for the rest of her life! Only that kinda guy!
OP ditched her and is living his best life!
100% the op is responsible for his situation. You don't stay in a relationship with a woman who insists on having "friends" like John. Right at the beginning of the relationship it should have been a him or me situation. This guy should have found his backbone years ago.
Agreed, she had probably been cheating on him with John for a very long time. The fact she was fine with him acting weird in front of OP is just a massive red flag. Those 'secret gatherings' they had probably weren't just to do hard drugs, but s*x too. John could even be her dealer and that's how she paid for goods. This time they just happened to be doing it again, but he went too far on her. Same for the other girls who showed up later, and that'd be why they didn't accuse him earlier.
Aw hell naw, fuck around and find out turns literal here.
She is a gaslighter
Unfortunately this happens quite often when someone is brought up by very religious, controlling, and frankly, unloving parents. My brother dated someone like this. She was rejected by her parents & would cut herself and blame my brother for "wanting to let her kill herself." Talk about emotional abuse. He ended it and, in fact, she is still alive. Hopefully seeking therapy.
Even though she got r-worded, she led the guy on, made out with him, and went to a secluded area with him, she literally put herself in harm's way then expects sympathy, ladies please even if you like parties do not expect everyone to not try to get in your pants through any means possible
I mean I don't believe that they only made out
I honestly don't believe it was SA. In actuality the woman was proved to be lying about a lot. Why couldn't she have been lying about the SA? I mean yeah she had injuries and all. But people can be into some really disgusting and rough sexual interactions. So those injuries could be explained by other things other than just SA. I'm not trying to downplay the fact that it could be possible that she actually did. But I don't see it being likely because of how much she lied about the entire ordeal. And not only that, but I don't believe her when she said that she was only making out with him. I don't have any proof to actually back this last statement that I am going to make. But it only makes sense to me that she could be lying about only making out with him, because if she is comfortable with him groping her in front of her boyfriend. Then they must have been doing more sexual activities during these "Girls Nights". But that last part is only speculation.
@@Hybrid-vy8lmthe issue with your take is that your forgetting John did that with multiple women
@@alduinsvoice1348 No I just didn't feel like making the paragraph longer than it was by putting how women like to hop on the bandwagon of crying r*pe. Although I'm not sure if it was actually true that John did it to those other women. For all we know those women could have just been trying to make the girlfriend's story of r*pe more believable.
@@Hybrid-vy8lm yeah, I can confirm that and there are multiple evidences as well, best examples are just to look up multiple false allegations from famous people, e.g. johnny depp, neymar etc.
Shrooms arent hard drugs, even though they're schedule 1. Psychedelics can be sacred. Weed and alcohol are fine too. Anything else though is not good.
Also, gentlemen, stay single.
As someone who enjoys said substances, they are not without their consequences. Saying that they are fine is inaccurate, at best. They're great.
shrooms aren't hard drugs, but alcohol is
Arguably the worst with how widely accepted it is culturally.@@dotanuki3371
This dude did more than most people would've, had a heart of gold and showed compassion even though he wasn't obligated to do so and from what i understand he got fucked over.
She was still going to cheat regardless of the fact it went further 🤷 if she didn’t put herself in that situation she wouldn’t have never been in it… turns out the bad boy you where going to replace your kind hearted boyfriend with was intact not just a bad boy but a demon in disguise. No sympathy from me sorry. Also John would be 6 feet deep just for the fun of it if that were me.
8*
"We'll pay for your school if you stay local" is pretty understandable. That's just a stipulation for a free ride, much like any other paid for or funded degree. The GI bill stipulates more than that.
We as adults are equally responsible for the situations we put ourselves in willingly as others are for the actions they take against us. Very sad story, but the moral is that a woman without the basic decency or common sense to not put herself in such disastrous situations or listen to the concerns or wishes of her partner is NOT partner material.
Millions of red flags right from the start
I was in a similar situation in the past. Guy friend forced himself onto my ex. But she was the one flirting with him all night and even went home with him instead of me after a party (she said he was going to take her home and she'll meet me at home). I waited up all night from 12am till 2am for her to come home. That coming Monday, a coworker of mine (who lived with the guy) said he saw them together go into his room and heard all of it. I just ended up kicking her out of my apartment and cut her out of my life. The way I looked at it was she ignored me, flirted with another dude all night, went home with him (didnt even tell me they were going to his place), went into the bedroom together so she can cheat on me, got cold feet, she got forced on, came home and didn't say a word, her choices, per problems. She ended up going back to her parents who lived a couple hours away.
She belongs to the street 🗣️🗣️
The thumbnail had me laughing at the girl.
youre evil
@@katya.g524 I know and I'm fabulous. Thank you for the compliment.
Is that how you cope with your father clapping your cheeks instead of your mother? Damn
@@katya.g524naw the girl is evil, he's just laughing at an evil person
@@private679r.i.c.o4 no
Yea this is exactly why I record my phone calls
What the fuck did she expect to accomplish by lying about him on social media?
The guy isn't even rich, and their relation was well beyond redemption.
Did she just destroy the guy's reputation and sanity out of spite?
Yes. And this is why the red pill movement has gone to the extreme.
With stories like these this is just leading to the word rape no longer having any meaning. On top of that, it's really sad for those who actually have been because good people that would support them will hear stuff like this and doubt cautiously before immediately supporting them. Something really needs to be done with these false allegations
woah woah the title... just reading that gave me chills and i would never wish this on anyone.. hope OP is doing ok!
If shes cheating shes not your girlfriend anymore
Every person in this story has some accountability for what happened, but OP only barely. I really, really, REALLY understand his situation because I've been in a similar but not quite as severe situation. Unfortunately, I really don't think OP could have actually stopped this. The only correct choice in hindsight would have been for OP to make an ultimatum, and that is always a dangerous move to make in the moment. I really hope OP can work to not let this destroy his ability to trust, but rather develop his ability to see through lies and properly stand against them, instead of just being like "oh well, I tried." When he confronts her about being uncomfortable with John's behavior and she brushes it off, that should be a red flag that she doesn't actually care about how you feel about the relationship, just that it still continues so she can feed off you.
While she is for the streets, that doesn't mean she should be forever screwed. I am no arbiter of fate, but I really think the only way she can come out a better person is to be abandoned. It's harsh, and I truly hope it doesn't break her, but especially with her experience with shrooms, she should have the ability to say to herself "man, that was fucked up. I fucked up, got fucked up, now it's all fucked up. Only way from here is up, but damn this is going to be a slow, long, painful, difficult journey." If she's anything like me, and if I'm anything like most people, she'll start doing good for a short time, and then something will happen that will back her into a corner (not literally, figuratively) and an important decision will be made to either panic and do everything she can to escape, or to remember her shrooms experiences and to relax, stay calm, keep going, and to swing WITH the ride, not against it. Even the hardships of life, are all just a giant trip in the end ;)
We can all agree John is a fucked up person and deserves whatever he has coming for him, but I still like to think people even this bad can change. It really comes down to whether or not he will accept his fate and repent (purgatory) or deny his repentance and try to skip it (go to hell). OP never said if John specifically did shrooms (at least I don't remember), but if he has done shrooms and still does not have it in him to see the error in his ways and to actually want to make up for it, then he's probably committed to not repenting.
TLDR: OP got screwed but could have avoided it. Girl was a wretch and paid the price (certainly and undeserved extreme though) but has experienced a defining moment to turn things around for the better. John is a piece of shit who deserves the worst, and HOPEFULLY, the worst will wake him up to a better way, but probably not. I like to be optimistic but I'm very aware a lot of people do not wish to face consequences, and facing the consequences actually makes you a better person, it's not just the price you pay.
Honestly i don’t even believe she was raped. She’s a terrible person and she 100% didn’t tell the full truth to the OP. If she was going out on girl’s nights EVERY WEEKEND I’m willing to bet that she’s been cheating on him for the entire relationship.
There were bruises, blood, marks all over her, and drugs in her system bro what are you on?
@@alishayin5267 Of course there were drugs in her system, she was taking drugs. Voluntarily.
As for the marks, that's just rough sacks. Doesn't mean grape. Considering she was polishing this john dude on the regular before, it almost certainly wasn't.
@@alishayin5267 so? She willingly took him to the bedroom. They could be into bdsm and rough x. She definitely didn't get gaved.
Sam is ELITE, bro never do anything to lose that friend
A year ago, I wouldn't have believe this, but I have had a situation that wouldn't be far apart
No one is ready for this conversation, but this all happened because he didn't want to look like he was "controling" her.
All woman who describe boundaries as "being controlling" deserve all that comes to them as a consequence of not respecting those boundaries.
being in a similar situation, I can agree in the end it was a hard choice, but you made the right one. Regardless of the R- situation, she was already in the mind state to go out and cheat. It's unfortunate that's the way it played out regardless of her motives. Of course, it complicates the situation, and I think the OP did a great job managing it. Although I know Op was hesitant to break it off, it's the best thing in the long run. I can relate to the impending lost feeling afterwards. All I can say is over time it gets easier, until you start seeing "hope" again. The defamation of character part is unfair and also relatable. I guess going through my personal circumstance it shows who was there for you in the first place. If you want to believe a story without hearing both sides, that shows your character. Great job Op I wish ya the best.
Hope OP learned from that experience. Her behaviour was unacceptable.
Fathers need to teach their children about red flags.
So many red flags completely ignored...
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Get yourself a homie like Sam
Vile as it may sound ....
She betrayed you and you owe her nothing.
I can't imagine how hurt you must be from this. i wish you the best of luck is resolving everything.
What happened to this John fellow, we know that there was investigation? Did John got arrested or john went into hiding?
Sam a real one
Play stupid games,win stupid prizes lol
what is the background music called? Great story too.
it's from undertale i think it's the home ost
It's Fallen down from Undertale. Probably a Lofi or chill remix
fallen down reprise slowed
Tired of these fake stories😂
Istgg
Then dont watch it