@@YuriDSC the story for epic changes so we do not want Jen to be spoiled by this we have to make sure that she experiences how she want to. Which means do not spoil it even if it is a 2800 year old story
@@YuriDSCNot everyone is or was particularly interested in Greek mythology growing up, so yeah, not everyone knows what happens next. I knew tid bits going into it, but none of the huge details. Made the first experience watching it super fun, exciting and emotional 🙈.
I find it really interesting that this song is the first time Odysseus’ name is actually given in the whole musical. He’s been addressed as “Captain” or “my friend” by his men, turns the question back around at Athena, and gives the “Nobody” name initially with Polyphemus. I haven’t quite figured out why that is but in a script that’s been so good about weaving other names in for the audience I feel like it has to be significant to have put his off so long until this particular moment.
Its necause in Greek mythology names hold power, and so he didn't typically reveal his name to anyone up until Polites' death which softened his tough heart. The soldiers just call him captain because that's the correct honorific. Great observation!
(SPOILERS) He made sure his identity was kept a secret because if he did something to someone and they wanted revenge, they wouldn't know who to go looking for, nor where to find them. And, might I ask... what exactly happened when his name DID get revealed? Had he not revealed his name... a certain someone wouldn't have punished him for not being *ruthless*
I guess it shows one of Odysseus' main character traits: he never tells the truth immediately, or, if he can, at all. Him telling the Cyclops his name is the ultimate symbol that losing his friend has completely changed it and not explicitly saying his name in the script adds to this point which perfectly builds up the next song (imo, obviously im not Jorge)
@@adriel8498 Not really a spoiler. i mean it is and it's not. He just said aloud to someone he wronged his city, his people and himself, which is doxing himself to the cyclops
@@YuriDSC maybe because a lot of people don't know too much about greek mythology? I mean, maybe they just put attention to the gods and not the tales of the mortals. Take me as an example, the only one I knew it was Hercules/Heracles and it was because of disney, what a surprise I had to know what really happened to him (Sorry if my english is bad)
SO, in the original odyssey, Odysseus doesn't actually say nobody, he says a name meaning no one. But in actual meaning it barely makes a difference. But the other cyclops can see he's hurt, so when he says "nobody" they think it was a punishment from the gods, so he needed to beg for forgiveness.
A thing many people miss is Polythemus is actually a young cyclops. So Odysseus basically broke into a kid's house, killed his pet, gave him drugged alcohol that made him pass out, blinded him. Stole the rest of his pet's/farm animals. And then he left while mocking him.
To be fair, he didn’t know a cyclops lived there and tried to diffuse the situation when Polyphemus showed up (especially in this version). He had to come up with many plans on the spot to protect his men from a being who was going to EAT them!
I think an interesting thing about gods like Athena is that it’s easy to question her motives, but at the end of the day there’s no one who knows how to handle survival better than a warrior god themselves.
She just didn't want any smoke from Poseidon, that's why she severed their connection, so when Poseidon inevitably finds out, he doesn't retaliate against her as well. In the power hierarchy of the Greek Gods pantheon, Zeus + Poseidon would mop the floor with her if they wanted to.
It's insane coming from Mortius and CF's reactions where people respect spoilers, and then seeing people in this comment section throwing in hints and pointing out stuff that would otherwise make for a great twist if she didn't figure it out herself
Agreed. I think people are just so excited about her reaction and get overly excited to explain everything so she doesn't miss anything...but definitely spoilers. Us fans are keen ones haha
Mate, not everyone is taught it in school. I wasn't, and especially for reaction channels, genuine first time reactions make for better content And also, I haven't gotten that far in the book ;-; why would they kill off a character they hyped up so much
Mortius even told Casper, he had to quickly delete many comments before Casper saw them because there were major spoilers. So people are disrespectful over there as well. Mortius is just really good at running damage control.
I genuinely lost it at 8:28 - THAT MOMENT when you realize that, Odyseuss, is indeed *wise* . And the moment that *you* noticed and started laughing is what got me to wheeze. (I already know the whole of the Act 1 I am watching for the sake of the recognition Jorge gets, but damn, I was not waiting to be this giggly wiggly and wheeze to a song that has people D I E- in it. )
God, if this ever gets made into a stage musical, this moment is going to be absolutely awesome. Especially when the actor who gets the part of Odysseus does that big belting "Remember Them" line.
Don’t forget, Odysseus introduced himself as “Nobody” to the cyclop. Then at the end he got over confident and shared him name which is a no no. That’s why you see the cyclops smiling at the end. Also remember the line “I am your darkest moment” it comes up later and is very cool how many layers Jorge has in these songs.
Hey jennifer, just here to say that ı absoluately ADORE the way you embrace the songs, the characters and all such. I have so much fun while watching you, *with* you because you make me feel like I am in that studio watching those videos together. In short I love your reactions, because they are real and keep us with you and in the moment. Keep up the good work, you are one of us. 🙂
What still gets me about this song in particular is how the other Cyclops heard Polyphemus roaring in pain after being blinded, but they didn't hear the battle beforehand?
I've been enjoying your reactions so much! I love how you much you notice in terms of their singing, the instruments, and different motifs and callbacks that a lot of the songs have! Jorge is insane with how many songs reference to other songs. Looking forward to the next one!
12:53 fun fact in the original myths Odysseus reveals his name as he's leaving in an act of arrogance, like "Hah i beat you so now know the name of the man who bested you". But for Epic, he says it as an act of mercy & warning to not trample on anyone else (literally and figuratively) ever again. In either versions this act bites him in the ass later on, and you could argue that this moment is the largest cause of him to not be able to go home for another 10 years. In the original it was meant to be a warning against succumbing to hubris, he was so smart up until this point that if he just didn't become too prideful of his brilliance he would've probably gone home and already seen his family within at least a year or so. But granted it was a rather weird out of character moment in terms of writing so him doing it out of mercy fits better with his character development within the musical version
I never fail to get chills every time that “Remember *me*” hits. I love this whole song, it’s my favorite of the saga, but that ending bit is absolutely incredible and always sweeps me away.
Fun fact: Polites was originally supposed to stay until the Thunder Saga, but instead was killed in the Cyclops Saga. His main line after that was in remember them, where he said, “Captain, what do we do with ur fallen friends?”.
Eurylochus needing to call Odysseus 4 times before he snaps out of it T__T But _ugh_ the acting is soooo good in this song, how emotionly exhausted he sounds at the beginning, how angry he sound when he starts the chorus, all while keeping his stunning vocals THIS MAN, SHEESH!
I'm so happy that Casper and Mortius got you to react to EPIC because that's how I just discovered your channel and I absolutely adore the way you review snd how you're just so comfy to watch!! Awesome job :>
I didn't see it after scrolling for a bit, so I thought I'd mention that for Greeks, not burying a body was a big deal. Without proper burial and a coin for Charon, souls couldn't get into Hades/had to wait a very, very long time. So it's extra painful to leave those men (including Polites) in the cave. I'm guessing someone mentions it in a later video, but figured it couldn't hurt.
I just realized (and if people haven't listened to Luck Runs Out, SPOILERS AHEAD) when Odysseus shouts out his name here, it's the same vocal line that Wet Hades uses!
ahhhhhhh!!!! i have binged all your epic videos and even though i know what's next i can NOT wait for your reactions!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I need more!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I don't think any of us who have followed this saga is getting over Polites any time soon. And the cyclops's smile is so freaking creepy there. I'm sure nothing bad will come from Odysseus ignoring the warning of a goddess that cares about him and doxing himself.
Warrior of the mind happened right after open arms I'm beginning to wonder if Athena had a hand in causing Polites' death she wanted Odysseus to be colder and he knew Polites was the weakest link
I would like to point out that Odysseus actually also had a logical reason to not kill the cyclops. If he cried out again, there's no guarantee the others wouldn't check a second time, and finding one of their own DEAD would cause them to immediately sweep the island, find the crew, and kill them all. What he did AFTER that was stupid, but that particular decision was actually really smart.
So they do mention it in the song, I think it's wild that people blame Odysseus for not killing polyphemus, it was dumb that he doxed himself to the Cyclops but despite what Athena says, it's clear that Mercy was the only option, his body was literally blocking the door so if they had killed him there was no way they could freaking move it (I just think it's wild that Athena got mad at him for not killing the Cyclops, a literal human knows better than you that the door is blocked by his body, but you get mad at him for not taking a life, if you have to get mad at him for something get mad at him for giving out his name and his home address, If you're going to tell him to kill the Cyclops give him another way to do it, and that you have a way that the body can be moved,as it Stands there is no sensible reason that he should have killed the Cyclops, as far as he knows it would have just resulted in their deaths anyway)
Remembering them really is all they can do Without the proper burial rituals you had no way to pay your way into the underworld, so you had to wait 100 years at the edge of the river Styx before you were allowed to cross 😢
Casper and Mortia sound like good friends... feel free to hate them while you appreciate them for bringing you here. I love when people don't know/remember Homer's stories get to this point... No Buddy (just the spelling I like to make it more likely to trick someone) is one of Odysseus's best ploys in my opinion. Course... what follows is one of his dumbest ideas. In the original he doesn't just say King of Ithaca [...] Odysseus! He says something closer to "I am the Son of Laertes, Odysseus the King of Ithaca!" So he essentially gives the Cyclops his Social Security number, home address, and name. Of course Homer's Odysseus is a prideful dick more than he isn't... but that's how Greek Heroes work, they all have a flaw... a "fatal flaw". That's just what they're called... might be spoiler... might be informing you of literary terms, who knows!!! They also go by Tragic Flaw and Hamartia.
10:14 In my view, Athena's order is very dumb. How should they kill the giant monster that resisted their previous assaults? The cyclops is blind, ok, but coming sufficiently close to slit its throat or spear its heart is a huge risk. The monster would surely grab some men and squeeze them in its hands before someone else would be able to finish the job. And this only if the move would be made by all the remaining warriors. Alone, Odysseus would have no chances. Thus, a real "warrior of the mind" would have left the cyclops crying without knowing who caused its afflictions thanks to the "Nobody" trick. And the Goddess of War and Wisdom would have avoided to provide silly suggestions. It is not a surprise that none of that was told in the Odyssey. Anyway, that's not comparable to the incredibly stupid thing that Odysseus said in 12:30 , which is almost the same he said in the Odyssey. Basically, he dissipated the advantages he gained by saying his name was "Nobody". Now Polyphemus will tell his family and friends who caused its afflictions. Vengeance would surely follow, and now, with the help of Odysseus himself, they know where to strike. In the Odyssey, Odysseus said that because he thought to be the smarter one and thus he wanted to mock the blind monster while going away. In the musical, he said that because he wanted to teach mercifulness to a giant monster that killed his best friend and several other men of his crew. And to spite Athena, of course... I understand that this version of Odysseus wants to embrace the "open arms" philosophy of his dead friend, but stating his name and his country of origin was unnecessary for that scope and a very dumb move instead.
If people are really THAT bad at the whole thing of "giving """"hints"""" about what's to come" = spoilers, you're giving spoilers, what's wrong with you, AT LEAST have the decency to do 6 of 7 lines with nothing but a dot first so your spoilers are avoidable. Common courtesy, imagine how bummed you'd have been if someone told you what will happen, no matter how roundabout they thought they were being about it.
I hope when you get to keep your friends close you do ximenas animatic hers doesnt get enough love Also cant wait for the next song because i have a feeling your not gonna understand why athena is doing what shes doing till later in the musical
Hi guys can we maybe not post spoilers it’s great when people don’t know what is coming
Spoilers for a roughly 2800 year old story?
@@YuriDSC the story for epic changes so we do not want Jen to be spoiled by this we have to make sure that she experiences how she want to. Which means do not spoil it even if it is a 2800 year old story
@@YuriDSCNot everyone is or was particularly interested in Greek mythology growing up, so yeah, not everyone knows what happens next. I knew tid bits going into it, but none of the huge details. Made the first experience watching it super fun, exciting and emotional 🙈.
I find it really interesting that this song is the first time Odysseus’ name is actually given in the whole musical. He’s been addressed as “Captain” or “my friend” by his men, turns the question back around at Athena, and gives the “Nobody” name initially with Polyphemus. I haven’t quite figured out why that is but in a script that’s been so good about weaving other names in for the audience I feel like it has to be significant to have put his off so long until this particular moment.
Its necause in Greek mythology names hold power, and so he didn't typically reveal his name to anyone up until Polites' death which softened his tough heart. The soldiers just call him captain because that's the correct honorific. Great observation!
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He made sure his identity was kept a secret because if he did something to someone and they wanted revenge, they wouldn't know who to go looking for, nor where to find them.
And, might I ask... what exactly happened when his name DID get revealed? Had he not revealed his name... a certain someone wouldn't have punished him for not being *ruthless*
I guess it shows one of Odysseus' main character traits: he never tells the truth immediately, or, if he can, at all. Him telling the Cyclops his name is the ultimate symbol that losing his friend has completely changed it and not explicitly saying his name in the script adds to this point which perfectly builds up the next song (imo, obviously im not Jorge)
And thus, Odysseus doxxed himself. 😂
Shhh
@@adriel8498 Not really a spoiler. i mean it is and it's not. He just said aloud to someone he wronged his city, his people and himself, which is doxing himself to the cyclops
@@Starryflamethe fact so many people need spoiler warning for a 2k+ year old story, one of the pillars of European storytelling is wild af..
@@YuriDSC maybe because a lot of people don't know too much about greek mythology? I mean, maybe they just put attention to the gods and not the tales of the mortals. Take me as an example, the only one I knew it was Hercules/Heracles and it was because of disney, what a surprise I had to know what really happened to him
(Sorry if my english is bad)
SO, in the original odyssey, Odysseus doesn't actually say nobody, he says a name meaning no one. But in actual meaning it barely makes a difference. But the other cyclops can see he's hurt, so when he says "nobody" they think it was a punishment from the gods, so he needed to beg for forgiveness.
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Oh i didnt notice bc in polish version its literally nobody
A thing many people miss is Polythemus is actually a young cyclops. So Odysseus basically broke into a kid's house, killed his pet, gave him drugged alcohol that made him pass out, blinded him. Stole the rest of his pet's/farm animals. And then he left while mocking him.
That's why i love first song of cyclop saga. I'm a teacher and it's breaking my heart
To be fair, he didn’t know a cyclops lived there and tried to diffuse the situation when Polyphemus showed up (especially in this version). He had to come up with many plans on the spot to protect his men from a being who was going to EAT them!
@@TheTuneShifteryeah both were in the wrong
@@dominikaa4110don’t worry Dad will come for their heads for this
Yeah but under Greek law, Polyphemus is way, way more guilty here than Ody and his crew. He violated the law of Xenia at every turn. @@area52ron
I think an interesting thing about gods like Athena is that it’s easy to question her motives, but at the end of the day there’s no one who knows how to handle survival better than a warrior god themselves.
Oh yes 😁
And she was giving instructions operating purely on logic which is her primary attribute , goddess of wisdom but also of the strategic part of warfare
She just didn't want any smoke from Poseidon, that's why she severed their connection, so when Poseidon inevitably finds out, he doesn't retaliate against her as well. In the power hierarchy of the Greek Gods pantheon, Zeus + Poseidon would mop the floor with her if they wanted to.
Damn that smile. Bro knows who he gon call.
Ghost Busters
My father will hear about this!
@@TheTuneShifter Shut up, Malfoy
wet hades
Stoppp. Ima laugh when we get to there LOLL
I am neither man (too egotistical to be a human) nor mythical (too humble to be a god)
A nice middle ground, I suppose.
He is enough to be Monster
The legacy of Hermes. Has godly origins as Hermes's great-grandson, but not enough to be taken seriously.
@@roxyraccoon9126 and he doesn’t have god abilities
@@area52ron Yeah that's another thing.
so mortius really IS getting everyone he knows into Epic 😂
"And my friend Ody, who is a father, this man has a baby, he grabbed some Lotus wine, smashed it on the floor and yelled 'Scatter!'"
It's insane coming from Mortius and CF's reactions where people respect spoilers, and then seeing people in this comment section throwing in hints and pointing out stuff that would otherwise make for a great twist if she didn't figure it out herself
Agreed. I think people are just so excited about her reaction and get overly excited to explain everything so she doesn't miss anything...but definitely spoilers. Us fans are keen ones haha
I think in Mortius's and CF's channels their mods are more vigilant, perhaps?
The poem is 28 centuries old. Its teaching in school. Want any more twists? Jesus died.
Mate, not everyone is taught it in school. I wasn't, and especially for reaction channels, genuine first time reactions make for better content
And also, I haven't gotten that far in the book ;-; why would they kill off a character they hyped up so much
Mortius even told Casper, he had to quickly delete many comments before Casper saw them because there were major spoilers. So people are disrespectful over there as well. Mortius is just really good at running damage control.
I genuinely lost it at 8:28 - THAT MOMENT when you realize that, Odyseuss, is indeed *wise* . And the moment that *you* noticed and started laughing is what got me to wheeze. (I already know the whole of the Act 1 I am watching for the sake of the recognition Jorge gets, but damn, I was not waiting to be this giggly wiggly and wheeze to a song that has people D I E- in it. )
God, if this ever gets made into a stage musical, this moment is going to be absolutely awesome. Especially when the actor who gets the part of Odysseus does that big belting "Remember Them" line.
Don’t forget, Odysseus introduced himself as “Nobody” to the cyclop. Then at the end he got over confident and shared him name which is a no no. That’s why you see the cyclops smiling at the end. Also remember the line “I am your darkest moment” it comes up later and is very cool how many layers Jorge has in these songs.
"Remember me" comes back along with the darkest moment line too
Hey jennifer, just here to say that ı absoluately ADORE the way you embrace the songs, the characters and all such. I have so much fun while watching you, *with* you because you make me feel like I am in that studio watching those videos together. In short I love your reactions, because they are real and keep us with you and in the moment. Keep up the good work, you are one of us. 🙂
Thank you!
I love this comment!!
@@AngieCHolland Thank you
I feel exactly the same.
What still gets me about this song in particular is how the other Cyclops heard Polyphemus roaring in pain after being blinded, but they didn't hear the battle beforehand?
They were sleeping and their baby brother's pained cries awakened them.
Odysseus: I'm going to trick him so he doesn't get my name
Also Odysseus: DOX MYSELF? YEAH
Mortius probably laughed when she called. Man is enjoying making people love and lose Polites.
Mortius has embraced "when does a man become a monster."
Goodness, I’ve been listening to Epic for years and I also only just noticed the “we’re up we’re off and away we go” motif 👏🏻
But how will we forget them especially polities!!!! 🥺🥺
Remember them
I'm so glad you enjoyed the "tie-ins" from previous songs. There will be a whole lot more, you are going to enjoy this musical soooo much 😆
I've been enjoying your reactions so much! I love how you much you notice in terms of their singing, the instruments, and different motifs and callbacks that a lot of the songs have! Jorge is insane with how many songs reference to other songs.
Looking forward to the next one!
So good!! 😁
12:53 fun fact in the original myths Odysseus reveals his name as he's leaving in an act of arrogance, like "Hah i beat you so now know the name of the man who bested you". But for Epic, he says it as an act of mercy & warning to not trample on anyone else (literally and figuratively) ever again. In either versions this act bites him in the ass later on, and you could argue that this moment is the largest cause of him to not be able to go home for another 10 years. In the original it was meant to be a warning against succumbing to hubris, he was so smart up until this point that if he just didn't become too prideful of his brilliance he would've probably gone home and already seen his family within at least a year or so. But granted it was a rather weird out of character moment in terms of writing so him doing it out of mercy fits better with his character development within the musical version
I never fail to get chills every time that “Remember *me*” hits. I love this whole song, it’s my favorite of the saga, but that ending bit is absolutely incredible and always sweeps me away.
Fun fact: Polites was originally supposed to stay until the Thunder Saga, but instead was killed in the Cyclops Saga. His main line after that was in remember them, where he said, “Captain, what do we do with ur fallen friends?”.
Our*, not ur
Hi Jennifer hope you are having an great and awesome day ❤
I love this one !! can’t wait to see your reaction and analysis, I’ve been loving seeing you watch EPIC so far :D
Ah thanks!
Your reaction to Odysseus stating his name proudly to the cyclops is so funny to me
Eurylochus needing to call Odysseus 4 times before he snaps out of it T__T
But _ugh_ the acting is soooo good in this song, how emotionly exhausted he sounds at the beginning, how angry he sound when he starts the chorus, all while keeping his stunning vocals THIS MAN, SHEESH!
I'm so happy that Casper and Mortius got you to react to EPIC because that's how I just discovered your channel and I absolutely adore the way you review snd how you're just so comfy to watch!! Awesome job :>
First time Odysseus is actually named in the musical, I believe. Which. Given everything that will come after...
I love the way this series does throw backs to others songs. It's so good! Thank you for the amazing analysis videos!
I didn't see it after scrolling for a bit, so I thought I'd mention that for Greeks, not burying a body was a big deal. Without proper burial and a coin for Charon, souls couldn't get into Hades/had to wait a very, very long time. So it's extra painful to leave those men (including Polites) in the cave.
I'm guessing someone mentions it in a later video, but figured it couldn't hurt.
I just realized (and if people haven't listened to Luck Runs Out, SPOILERS AHEAD)
when Odysseus shouts out his name here, it's the same vocal line that Wet Hades uses!
ahhhhhhh!!!! i have binged all your epic videos and even though i know what's next i can NOT wait for your reactions!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I need more!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Always a great work Jennifer! like 160
I don't think any of us who have followed this saga is getting over Polites any time soon.
And the cyclops's smile is so freaking creepy there. I'm sure nothing bad will come from Odysseus ignoring the warning of a goddess that cares about him and doxing himself.
This is such a great song with all the layers coming together!! Love the reaction as always Jen!💗
Love it!
I know everyone saying he shouldn’t have said his name but that was a damn badass moment😭
When he tells him his name I imagine a video game text box coming up like “this action will have consequences”
This is really random but your Mic gives off Iron Man vibes
Love that😂
Your reactions are so much fun to see. Im glad to see you enjoying the songs
Cyclop saga is one of my favorite. Mayby there's no the best songs, but, let's be honest, one of the most emotional
The next song is far and away my favorite. Though all the first two sagas are great.
The og oddesy had the Nobody as one of Odysseus' most famous tricks
Can t wait for you to begin the next saga
Thx for the reaction
Warrior of the mind happened right after open arms I'm beginning to wonder if Athena had a hand in causing Polites' death she wanted Odysseus to be colder and he knew Polites was the weakest link
I would like to point out that Odysseus actually also had a logical reason to not kill the cyclops. If he cried out again, there's no guarantee the others wouldn't check a second time, and finding one of their own DEAD would cause them to immediately sweep the island, find the crew, and kill them all. What he did AFTER that was stupid, but that particular decision was actually really smart.
This is my favorite song from the musical :(
So they do mention it in the song, I think it's wild that people blame Odysseus for not killing polyphemus, it was dumb that he doxed himself to the Cyclops but despite what Athena says, it's clear that Mercy was the only option, his body was literally blocking the door so if they had killed him there was no way they could freaking move it (I just think it's wild that Athena got mad at him for not killing the Cyclops, a literal human knows better than you that the door is blocked by his body, but you get mad at him for not taking a life, if you have to get mad at him for something get mad at him for giving out his name and his home address, If you're going to tell him to kill the Cyclops give him another way to do it, and that you have a way that the body can be moved,as it Stands there is no sensible reason that he should have killed the Cyclops, as far as he knows it would have just resulted in their deaths anyway)
"he willnt change for anyone" lmao
Seriously you need to listen to the new version of the Cyclops saga! Pleeeease 🙏 Athena and Ody's talk is so much better in that one.
I love the next song.
Watch more epic the musical
Remembering them really is all they can do
Without the proper burial rituals you had no way to pay your way into the underworld, so you had to wait 100 years at the edge of the river Styx before you were allowed to cross 😢
Oh you got a big storm coming (underworld saga)
For the song ruthlessness, you MUST watch the animation by AnniFlamma. It is AMAZING!!!!!!😁❤🌊
AnniFlamma's is probably my favorite for Ruthlessness, tho Gigi's is very good too.
12:55
Those who know the consequences of what Odysseus just did:
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i just imagine Polyphemus saying "my dad is gonna kick your butt!" off camera after the end of that animatic. lol
He’s literally the first “you know who my dad is?” Kid
Ha ha! What a funny comment! Would be great if you put it anywhere except a reactor who’s trying to go into the show blind! 😒
Bro had the ultimate play and out of rage and arrogance ruined it at the end. Oh silly Ody...
never clicked a video so fast
Can’t wait for the next one! Athena is amazing!
Odysseous just dropped his full name and ip adress LOL
Casper and Mortia sound like good friends... feel free to hate them while you appreciate them for bringing you here. I love when people don't know/remember Homer's stories get to this point... No Buddy (just the spelling I like to make it more likely to trick someone) is one of Odysseus's best ploys in my opinion. Course... what follows is one of his dumbest ideas. In the original he doesn't just say King of Ithaca [...] Odysseus! He says something closer to "I am the Son of Laertes, Odysseus the King of Ithaca!" So he essentially gives the Cyclops his Social Security number, home address, and name. Of course Homer's Odysseus is a prideful dick more than he isn't... but that's how Greek Heroes work, they all have a flaw... a "fatal flaw". That's just what they're called... might be spoiler... might be informing you of literary terms, who knows!!! They also go by Tragic Flaw and Hamartia.
# 늦었죠^ 그래도.. 홧팅!! 🍒🙆♂️)))
Ody said take that! Anyways heres my name and address.
“He’s not changing for anyone” 👀👀👀
anyone but himself... 🤔🤔🤔
You love the links in the lyrics? Wait 'til you come to "Ruthlessness" that song is riddled with them lyricly AND melody wise...
Hey can you pls react to Truth Untold By the vocal line of BTS😭😭😭😭💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜
10:14 In my view, Athena's order is very dumb. How should they kill the giant monster that resisted their previous assaults? The cyclops is blind, ok, but coming sufficiently close to slit its throat or spear its heart is a huge risk. The monster would surely grab some men and squeeze them in its hands before someone else would be able to finish the job. And this only if the move would be made by all the remaining warriors. Alone, Odysseus would have no chances. Thus, a real "warrior of the mind" would have left the cyclops crying without knowing who caused its afflictions thanks to the "Nobody" trick. And the Goddess of War and Wisdom would have avoided to provide silly suggestions.
It is not a surprise that none of that was told in the Odyssey.
Anyway, that's not comparable to the incredibly stupid thing that Odysseus said in 12:30 , which is almost the same he said in the Odyssey. Basically, he dissipated the advantages he gained by saying his name was "Nobody". Now Polyphemus will tell his family and friends who caused its afflictions. Vengeance would surely follow, and now, with the help of Odysseus himself, they know where to strike.
In the Odyssey, Odysseus said that because he thought to be the smarter one and thus he wanted to mock the blind monster while going away. In the musical, he said that because he wanted to teach mercifulness to a giant monster that killed his best friend and several other men of his crew. And to spite Athena, of course... I understand that this version of Odysseus wants to embrace the "open arms" philosophy of his dead friend, but stating his name and his country of origin was unnecessary for that scope and a very dumb move instead.
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Ody doxxed himself lol
Remember them... when the fire begins to fade... for the fallen and afraid.... Eurylochus, light up six torches.
I will bite you /pos
If people are really THAT bad at the whole thing of "giving """"hints"""" about what's to come" = spoilers, you're giving spoilers, what's wrong with you, AT LEAST have the decency to do 6 of 7 lines with nothing but a dot first so your spoilers are avoidable. Common courtesy, imagine how bummed you'd have been if someone told you what will happen, no matter how roundabout they thought they were being about it.
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Odysseus: "I am Odysseus, king of Ithaca"
Polyphemus: "Oh i will remember... hehehe"
*this decision will have consequences*
I hope when you get to keep your friends close you do ximenas animatic hers doesnt get enough love
Also cant wait for the next song because i have a feeling your not gonna understand why athena is doing what shes doing till later in the musical
Ohhh I really hope she does! Gigi's is amazing, but Ximena did an ASTOUNDING JOB in their's.