I have a very old Buck folding hunter lock back #12. I've had this since I was 18, and I'm 73 now. This knife was old when I got it. The flap on the pouch had been worn through from the corner of the brass bolster, and whatever was resting on top of the flap. I'm thinking muffin top here. The point is that it was carried on the guy's belt for years. I was hitch hiking when I found it laying on the ground inside it's black pouch at an on ramp just outside of NYC. Years later, I was up in the California gold country and I broke the blade prying on something. Looking at the break, you could see a flaw in the metal, discoloration in the break which looked like a stress fracture would. The knife had been "customized" at some point so I wasn't sure if it was still under warranty. I wrapped it up with the broken piece, called their attention to the flaw, and sent it off. A couple of weeks later, they sent it back to me with a note saying that they had only replaced the blade, and could not send me a brand new knife because of the customization. So, I still have that old knife, and the well worn pouch, which is really what I wanted to begin with. I mean, that knife has so much history that if they had kept it, or most likely thrown it away and sent me a new one, all of that would have been lost. I hope you are a real knife lover, or someone who respects the history of a fine tool that has been loved and well used, enough to appreciate this story. Every word is the gospel truth, I swear. I still carry it from time to time just because of the memories, and I hope to hand it down to someone else, my daughter or son in law perhaps, so the legend lives on. And perhaps my legend as well. Can anyone really want for more than that after a life well lived?
@@ericellquist7007 I appreciate your journey more than you know. I’m sure whoever you decide to pass the knife onto respects how priceless something like that is. I also hope I can take care of this buck knife long enough to pass it down as well. Thank you very much for your story and for taking the time out of your day to share it.
I have this model & it is in my EDC rotation. Like you, I prefer a taco style sheath. However, one advantage to the sheath they provided is that I have my mounting clip on one side & added a Kydex ferro rod holder on the other side.
That's a really great looking knife. I don't mind a lower hardness HT on fixed blades as long as the steel still sharpens up and deburrs nicely. Knives are tools and you want the right tools for the job, high harness has its place but for me the right place is a lighter duty folding knife or even a lighter duty fixed blade if that's your preference. I try not to get too caught up in chasing numbers plus I also enjoy sharpening and maintaining my knives, not to say I'm not intrigued by very well done exotic steel but it's more of a fascination than a need or use case. I actually have to restrain myself from sharpening or stropping my knives until they actually need it so having some 67+ hrc Rex steel would be like torture for me.
@@lumntoob999 very well put my good sir. I agree that many people tend to chase the exotic steels. Personally I also prefer lower HRC on a fixed blade.
Buck seems pretty particular about their heat treating process and desired outcomes. I saw their heat treating oven while on the plant tour and the guide said the steel is in the oven for 18 hours and then they test the hardness. If it doesn’t meet spec it goes back in the oven. It was impressive seeing the multiple pans of blade stock cutouts stacked after the heat treating waiting for the tumblers.
@@kevinwilliams563 to say that I’m not jealous would be a flat out lie haha. I didn’t even know they gave tours. That’s awesome and I’m happy to know they’re so meticulous on their heat treat. Thank you for the knowledge
@ If you ever have a reason to be up around Northern Idaho just give Buck a call in advance and choose your date and time. They treat you very well as their guest. The tour is great and ends with a visit to the company store to shop for Buck products including knives, apparel, hats, sheaths. Well worth the time.
That's a sweet looking knife. I've been looking at the 420HC, I'd like Magnacut. I hope they don't cease making it, with Crucible filing Chapter 11. I may not get a chance to own one. It would surely drive the collectable price for that knife and all others I imagine. I'm looking at use as EDC. My favorite, to use knife, is a Buck Vanguard, the 662 is a more practical size for EDC. Buck is a really solid company. Definitely a skinner but I think that design is perfect for everyday.
@@aubreyleonae4108 couldn’t agree more with you. I had heard about crucible’s troubles. While other people are saying that the steals will be manufactured by different companies, I don’t know if it’ll be to the same quality since magnacut was produced through crucible. You make some really valid points.
I'd love to get into Buck knives again (I grew up on them), but I struggle with their designs these days. While I appreciate those that like this knife, I find it lackluster personally. I feel like the more they try to get away from their roots, the more generic they become. If I want generic, there are tons of those knives out there. I'd love to see Buck come out with classic knives in these categories, keeping the things that has made Buck stand out.
@@NotYourGrandpasEDC No worries though. It has some premium materials, so the price difference is justified, since some will want or perhaps even need them, so that's fair, and I'm glad they're available options.
I have the buck 110. 100 anniversary edition. Like new. Going to buy a new one and put this one up with my 30 year old hammer head case. I found the hammer head a few weeks ago. In a hardware store. 89.95. The man at case said it was a once in a lifetime find.😊
Its a great knife. I prefer my S35VN in green. Just a matter of preference. I have 2 Bucks in Magnacut. Good steel. But ive had no problem with there 420HC cause there bos heat treat is that good.
I have the 662 and my brother has the 664, both in S35vn. At the time I bought them the Magnacut wasn’t available yet. We’ve used them to breakdown multiple elk, deer, antelope, and oryx. I prefer a smaller skinner knife in combo with another longer flexible boning style knife (the Spyderco Bow River is one of my favorites.) For me, the 662 is a to small, and the 664 feels slightly off, to big. So, I took them both to a custom knife maker friend of mine, who built me a Goldilocks. The design is awesome, but the factory sizes are just slightly off for me. The 662 does make a good small edc fixed blade. My brother uses his 664 for hunting along with a Kershaw Deschutes Skinner as his regular hunting set. After quite a bit of use with both of the 662, 664, and several other buck knives over the years, I don’t use any of them anymore. They need to be touched up a few times while being used on big animals and regular edc use, especially 420, but even the S35VN. Even for edc use, I don’t like knives that need to be touched up daily to be useful. For me, the knives in my hunting pack are; the Spyderco Bow Bow River, Benchmade Steep Country, and my custom “662-2.0”!! My edc work knife is the Spyderco / Byrd Raven 2, and the Spyderco Sage 5 for after hours. These knives rarely need touched up on ceramic, and a few strops on the leather usually does the trick.
@@nmhvactech5474 it definitely sounds like you found the right combo for yourself. And in the process you may have answered a question for me. I like the 662 as my EDC tasks aren’t too demanding. But I always questioned if the 664 would be a bit too much. Thank you 👍🏽
I own one buck knife... a "custom" Buck 112 I got as a 10 year anniversary gift from work. I like I well enough... but it's a chunky thing for it's size with most of the weight in the handle with the brass bolsters. While Buck generally knows their way around the heat treat for their standard steel... the hollow ground clip point blade isn't really an "edc" shape for Urban carry as it's not really durable for cutting hard plastic or thick glued cardboard without the chance of a chip out. My one worry for buying a Buck magnacut blade... is they get the heat treat correct on it as Buck doesn't have much traditional experience with heat treating anything outside of their Bos heat treat 420HC. That more neutral blade shape does seem to be moderately better than a clip point for edc... but maybe not quite as useful as a more tip forward design like a wharncliffe, sheepsfoot, or "reverse tanto" design. Urban EDC does tend to favor using "just the tip" of the knife for opening packages and the like... or cutting strapping around items that you don't want the tip to cut.
@NotYourGrandpasEDC yes, nice quality made in USA sheath, not one of the made in Mexico ones, I'm old school, 68yrs old, kydex is nice, but I'm a leather fan
@@paulthelefty you’re not the first person to tell me this. I need to get my hands on one of the cheaper versions to see if it’s a consistent problem. Not buying another 200 one just to have similar problems 😵💫😂
BUCK NEEDS TO COVER THE METAL IN THE HANDLE.... WET HANDS IN THE WINTER.... THAT WILL FREEZE TO YOUR HAND AND FINGERS.... BUCK HAS LOST QUALITY.. YOU CAN NEVER GO WRONG WITH A BUCK HUNTER 110.... THE ORIGINAL AN EDC BETTER THAN THAT...IS A MORA, RUBBER HANDLE AND PRICE WISE YOU COULD GET 10 - 15 OF THEM FOR THE COST OF THAT "BUCK"
@@t.c.f.fuller8867 the buck 110 is a great knife. So is the mora. I think this is Buck’s way of trying to keep up with the times. Kydex, magnacut and a EDC fixed blade. I like the innovation, but I understand not everyone will see it the same. You just have to use what works for you ✊🏽
@@muddymo7641 i’m actually really happy that you commented this. I have a video coming out today where I talk about expensive knives. Spoiler alert, I agree.
I was always a fan of Buck Alpha series fixed blade knives like the original #694. I like these newer ones too but prefer the S35VN steel. I find Magnacut to be a bit over rated
@@HPAcustomriflesandcerakote you know I definitely like the s35 versions too. Especially the grips, those walnut ones are legit. I’d like to get one down the road to test out but at 170😵💫 ehhh. Might wait a while
I have a very old Buck folding hunter lock back #12. I've had this since I was 18, and I'm 73 now. This knife was old when I got it. The flap on the pouch had been worn through from the corner of the brass bolster, and whatever was resting on top of the flap. I'm thinking muffin top here. The point is that it was carried on the guy's belt for years. I was hitch hiking when I found it laying on the ground inside it's black pouch at an on ramp just outside of NYC. Years later, I was up in the California gold country and I broke the blade prying on something. Looking at the break, you could see a flaw in the metal, discoloration in the break which looked like a stress fracture would. The knife had been "customized" at some point so I wasn't sure if it was still under warranty. I wrapped it up with the broken piece, called their attention to the flaw, and sent it off. A couple of weeks later, they sent it back to me with a note saying that they had only replaced the blade, and could not send me a brand new knife because of the customization. So, I still have that old knife, and the well worn pouch, which is really what I wanted to begin with. I mean, that knife has so much history that if they had kept it, or most likely thrown it away and sent me a new one, all of that would have been lost. I hope you are a real knife lover, or someone who respects the history of a fine tool that has been loved and well used, enough to appreciate this story. Every word is the gospel truth, I swear. I still carry it from time to time just because of the memories, and I hope to hand it down to someone else, my daughter or son in law perhaps, so the legend lives on. And perhaps my legend as well. Can anyone really want for more than that after a life well lived?
@@ericellquist7007 I appreciate your journey more than you know. I’m sure whoever you decide to pass the knife onto respects how priceless something like that is. I also hope I can take care of this buck knife long enough to pass it down as well. Thank you very much for your story and for taking the time out of your day to share it.
I have this model & it is in my EDC rotation. Like you, I prefer a taco style sheath. However, one advantage to the sheath they provided is that I have my mounting clip on one side & added a Kydex ferro rod holder on the other side.
@@knife_knut up until you mentioned it I hadn’t thought of that addition. Nice thinking on that one.
I've wanted one one these since i first saw it during one if the shot show vids. Thing looks perfect 😍
@@f1nch1312 I don’t understand how more people haven’t heard of them. I love this thing
That's a really great looking knife. I don't mind a lower hardness HT on fixed blades as long as the steel still sharpens up and deburrs nicely. Knives are tools and you want the right tools for the job, high harness has its place but for me the right place is a lighter duty folding knife or even a lighter duty fixed blade if that's your preference. I try not to get too caught up in chasing numbers plus I also enjoy sharpening and maintaining my knives, not to say I'm not intrigued by very well done exotic steel but it's more of a fascination than a need or use case. I actually have to restrain myself from sharpening or stropping my knives until they actually need it so having some 67+ hrc Rex steel would be like torture for me.
@@lumntoob999 very well put my good sir. I agree that many people tend to chase the exotic steels. Personally I also prefer lower HRC on a fixed blade.
Buck seems pretty particular about their heat treating process and desired outcomes. I saw their heat treating oven while on the plant tour and the guide said the steel is in the oven for 18 hours and then they test the hardness. If it doesn’t meet spec it goes back in the oven. It was impressive seeing the multiple pans of blade stock cutouts stacked after the heat treating waiting for the tumblers.
@@kevinwilliams563 to say that I’m not jealous would be a flat out lie haha. I didn’t even know they gave tours. That’s awesome and I’m happy to know they’re so meticulous on their heat treat. Thank you for the knowledge
@ If you ever have a reason to be up around Northern Idaho just give Buck a call in advance and choose your date and time. They treat you very well as their guest. The tour is great and ends with a visit to the company store to shop for Buck products including knives, apparel, hats, sheaths. Well worth the time.
@ thank you very much! That’s now on my bucket list.
It sounds like Larrin Thomas worked with Buck and Bos heat treating to get there Magnacut heat treat perfect
@@keithadler965 I heard something about this but wasn’t too sure on the details. So far it’s held up great.
That's a sweet looking knife. I've been looking at the 420HC, I'd like Magnacut. I hope they don't cease making it, with Crucible filing Chapter 11. I may not get a chance to own one. It would surely drive the collectable price for that knife and all others I imagine. I'm looking at use as EDC. My favorite, to use knife, is a Buck Vanguard, the 662 is a more practical size for EDC. Buck is a really solid company. Definitely a skinner but I think that design is perfect for everyday.
@@aubreyleonae4108 couldn’t agree more with you. I had heard about crucible’s troubles. While other people are saying that the steals will be manufactured by different companies, I don’t know if it’ll be to the same quality since magnacut was produced through crucible. You make some really valid points.
So one will make all the steels if they go under. There’s already “clones” of all our fav steels that others will produce if needed.
I edc the 113 Ranger fixed blade and it can also be had in "super" steels.
I'd love to get into Buck knives again (I grew up on them), but I struggle with their designs these days. While I appreciate those that like this knife, I find it lackluster personally. I feel like the more they try to get away from their roots, the more generic they become. If I want generic, there are tons of those knives out there. I'd love to see Buck come out with classic knives in these categories, keeping the things that has made Buck stand out.
@@lynnjr457 trends seem to change so easily these days, hopefully it’s, “cool,” to be classic again someday soon and we see some of those design’s.
Awesome edc fixed blade
I have the 685 which is a bit similar. One of the most practical and cost effective knives I own. Cheers.
@@WR3ND can’t go wrong there. I’d have to say that is the biggest downfall to the 662 (price)
@@NotYourGrandpasEDC No worries though. It has some premium materials, so the price difference is justified, since some will want or perhaps even need them, so that's fair, and I'm glad they're available options.
I have the buck 110. 100 anniversary edition. Like new. Going to buy a new one and put this one up with my 30 year old hammer head case. I found the hammer head a few weeks ago. In a hardware store. 89.95. The man at case said it was a once in a lifetime find.😊
@@mikepowell5094 phenomenal deal you got there and the 110 is a great classic.
Looks awesome
Its a great knife. I prefer my S35VN in green. Just a matter of preference. I have 2 Bucks in Magnacut. Good steel. But ive had no problem with there 420HC cause there bos heat treat is that good.
@@BaxtersBlades I really would like to try out one of the s35vn versions to see if the steel is that distinguishable between the two.
I have the 662 and my brother has the 664, both in S35vn. At the time I bought them the Magnacut wasn’t available yet. We’ve used them to breakdown multiple elk, deer, antelope, and oryx. I prefer a smaller skinner knife in combo with another longer flexible boning style knife (the Spyderco Bow River is one of my favorites.) For me, the 662 is a to small, and the 664 feels slightly off, to big. So, I took them both to a custom knife maker friend of mine, who built me a Goldilocks. The design is awesome, but the factory sizes are just slightly off for me.
The 662 does make a good small edc fixed blade. My brother uses his 664 for hunting along with a Kershaw Deschutes Skinner as his regular hunting set. After quite a bit of use with both of the 662, 664, and several other buck knives over the years, I don’t use any of them anymore. They need to be touched up a few times while being used on big animals and regular edc use, especially 420, but even the S35VN. Even for edc use, I don’t like knives that need to be touched up daily to be useful.
For me, the knives in my hunting pack are; the Spyderco Bow Bow River, Benchmade Steep Country, and my custom “662-2.0”!! My edc work knife is the Spyderco / Byrd Raven 2, and the Spyderco Sage 5 for after hours. These knives rarely need touched up on ceramic, and a few strops on the leather usually does the trick.
@@nmhvactech5474 it definitely sounds like you found the right combo for yourself. And in the process you may have answered a question for me. I like the 662 as my EDC tasks aren’t too demanding. But I always questioned if the 664 would be a bit too much. Thank you 👍🏽
I would be interested in trying it out if only the handle was an inch longer and a little beefier.
@@jonathancupp3686 valid point. Even the 664 variant seems to struggle with the small handle
Great video bro 😃👍
@@jkal4521 thank you! I really do appreciate it ✊🏽
I own one buck knife... a "custom" Buck 112 I got as a 10 year anniversary gift from work. I like I well enough... but it's a chunky thing for it's size with most of the weight in the handle with the brass bolsters. While Buck generally knows their way around the heat treat for their standard steel... the hollow ground clip point blade isn't really an "edc" shape for Urban carry as it's not really durable for cutting hard plastic or thick glued cardboard without the chance of a chip out.
My one worry for buying a Buck magnacut blade... is they get the heat treat correct on it as Buck doesn't have much traditional experience with heat treating anything outside of their Bos heat treat 420HC.
That more neutral blade shape does seem to be moderately better than a clip point for edc... but maybe not quite as useful as a more tip forward design like a wharncliffe, sheepsfoot, or "reverse tanto" design. Urban EDC does tend to favor using "just the tip" of the knife for opening packages and the like... or cutting strapping around items that you don't want the tip to cut.
@@Jakoshdw very valid points, perhaps I need to look into the 420 version now. Thank you for the insight 👍🏽
Its my edc in sv35, great little belt knife, nice leather sheath that hangs well
@@marklaramie7393 happy to hear about the sheath quality, I’ve always been a kydex fan but their leather ones look amazing.
@NotYourGrandpasEDC yes, nice quality made in USA sheath, not one of the made in Mexico ones, I'm old school, 68yrs old, kydex is nice, but I'm a leather fan
@ I like your style 👍🏽
Because they’re charging half that price for the logo 😮. That’s why I don’t have one of those lol.
I recently started buying fixed blades. God help me 🤦That's a pretty cool lil guy.
@@munkyenima he’s not too shabby and my first magnacut. Admittedly way too expensive of a knife. Should be around 140 not 210
Hardness range: 60-63 HRC
@@relativelyreasonable thank you very much! So definitely on the lower end
Read Buck's warranty disclaimer. Probably why no one carries them anymore.... just saying
@@adamsoto6466 thank you for the heads up
What!?! Buck screwed up the bevel on a $200 knife??? Shocked… not. Their QC has been terrible since covid.
@@paulthelefty you’re not the first person to tell me this. I need to get my hands on one of the cheaper versions to see if it’s a consistent problem. Not buying another 200 one just to have similar problems 😵💫😂
Neck knife
@@mikeogden5256 hadn’t thought of it in that application before but now that you mention it, that’s a great idea.
It’s a knife.
BUCK NEEDS TO COVER THE METAL IN THE HANDLE.... WET HANDS IN THE WINTER.... THAT WILL FREEZE TO YOUR HAND AND FINGERS.... BUCK HAS LOST QUALITY.. YOU CAN NEVER GO WRONG WITH A BUCK HUNTER 110.... THE ORIGINAL AN EDC BETTER THAN THAT...IS A MORA, RUBBER HANDLE AND PRICE WISE YOU COULD GET 10 - 15 OF THEM FOR THE COST OF THAT "BUCK"
@@t.c.f.fuller8867 the buck 110 is a great knife. So is the mora. I think this is Buck’s way of trying to keep up with the times. Kydex, magnacut and a EDC fixed blade. I like the innovation, but I understand not everyone will see it the same. You just have to use what works for you ✊🏽
200+$?
I'm out
@@muddymo7641 i’m actually really happy that you commented this. I have a video coming out today where I talk about expensive knives. Spoiler alert, I agree.
@@NotYourGrandpasEDCI’m guessing the 662 on Amazon for $65 is a fake?
@ no sir it’s just their 420 HC model. A much lesser steal and it will come with a nylon sheath not a Kydex one.
@ thanks!
Because it’s lame
I was always a fan of Buck Alpha series fixed blade knives like the original #694. I like these newer ones too but prefer the S35VN steel. I find Magnacut to be a bit over rated
@@HPAcustomriflesandcerakote you know I definitely like the s35 versions too. Especially the grips, those walnut ones are legit. I’d like to get one down the road to test out but at 170😵💫 ehhh. Might wait a while