Best review I have found on this Si so far. Very informative on all segments especially letting us here the exhaust and sound system, and really covering what the bolster seats look like. Pretty cool car. TY.
@@gregorymann9185 Although a hatchback Si would have been AWESOME, Honda probably made the assumption that an Si hatch would have stolen potential sales from the Type R.
Thank you for including the sound system in your review. Nobody else has done that yet, and even though I already have a 2020 Civic Si on order, I remained curious if the sound system was any good. So again, thanks for your answer.
I've had mine for about a month now. The audio is good, but I replaced the front speakers anyways. The factory speakers have a nice rubber surround, but very small magnets.
Be prepared for the horrible rev hang, leaky valve cover gasket and it completely running out of breath after 5k rpm's, this I likely due to the tiny intercooler heat soaking after one pull, pathetic. My Focust ST's was just as bad. Other than that I like mine, 2020 black. Seriously, I just discovered today the valve cover gasket and it seems like it's common so look for it. Good luck with yours.
@@totljag1 Front, I took it in and they told me they lube the rubber gasket before installing and that was what I was seeing. Frankly I think it's a crock as it's migrating down the head but I get that there can be some reminance left over. It is a seepage and not a profuse leak. Its documented now though. But I'm not the only one to see this if you look on the forums. I forgot to mention the weak clutches too, so if you plan on modifying make sure you budget in the $700+ for a new clutch.
ricky duran The oil dilution issue is still around, but it isn’t nearly bad as many make it out to be. Usually only occurs in extreme cold climates on cold starts. If you live in normal climates and change the oil a little earlier at 3,500-4k miles it’s likely to last as long as any other turbo engine.
Honda has made an update to the 2019 and 2020 models to heat them up faster and help burn off blow-by gasoline. The 2017 and 2018 models have an update that an owner can get by taking in their Honda to the dealership or oil change etc..
I wish Honda would fix the rev hang in these cars. I had a 2020 Si Coupe and the rev hang drove me nuts to the point it's one of the reasons I got rid of the car. It's a nice car but the rev hang ruins it for me. I would've probably kept the car if it had no rev hang.
Where can I find one??? Just tested the 2022. Loved it but you can't find the damn things ANYWHERE. This model sounds equally good. Please help me find one! I will only buy a car with a manual transmission, which this obviously has. Where can I find one??? Please, help!
My local dealership is getting a blue one in about 3 weeks but won't get a grey one in for 2 to 3 months. I think I like the grey better but really don't want to wait 2 or 3 months to get one 2 or 3 weeks is gonna be hard enough lol
Good looking color. Is that lunar silver Same as the passport? Own a 2018 si and just rolled over 20,000 miles haven’t had any problems with it. Averaging 35mpg.
I had a 2020 Si Coupe and the rev hang is what eventually motivated me to trade it in. I have a 2023 WRX now and there's no rev hang in that car and I'm much happier with that car. Clutch was also slipping bad in the Si buit the rev hang is one of the biggest reasons I got rid of it. Had it disabled with Hondata but that only disables it to a certain degree (although the car does drive better with it disabled). I wanted a car with absolutely no rev hang whatsoever. It's the reason I wouldn't buy another Si though. Love how the car looks and besides the rev hang, I love everything about it but the rev hang ruined the car for me. Honda needs to fix that big time. It made me hate the car. It drove me nuts.
The dealership told me "we don't have any 2020s in stock right now, we do have a lot of 2019-" "I want the 2020," I replied. I got a 2020 in modern steel, no regrets
Sometimes the lights aren't adjusted correctly from the factory but you can adjust them super easily :) At least in California there are also laws that require this.
When you sat behind the driver seat when you were talking about space, did you move the driver seat forward or did you leave it where you set it? Im 6’1 thats why im asking lol
I'm being told next year there will be no manual transmission in the si? What? Honda says they are tired of people blaming them for the clutch burning out when in reality it's because people can't drive. Have you heard anything about this?
The clutch issues is Honda. I had a 2020 Si Coupe and the clutch had been slipping since I got it. Don't know how it is in the newer Si's but I do know the clutches in the 10th generation are crap because of Honda. The rev hang is terrible in those cars and that doesn't help with the clutch. That wears it out faster.
Type R cons: stiffer suspension, higher maintenance, expensive tires, worse fuel consumption, so sunroof, no heated seats, no blind spot monitoring, no manual ebrake, fake exhaust cabin noise, a bit too flashy on the red accents. Type R pros: 306hp, 2.0L VTech turbo engine, made in UK, hatchback configuration, brembo 4 piston breaks in front, wide body kit with aero vents that actually work, extreme bucket seats for maximum body grip, quicker than the Si, auto rev match Si cons: tiny 1.5L turbo engine (non VTech), not much change in power since 2006 (embarrassing), no manual hand brake, no hatchback configuration, ugly chrome accents around doors, no auto rev match (if that's even an issue?) Si pros: much easier to live with as a daily driver, better fuel economy, similar fun to type R but a bit slower, nice bucket seats that aren't too in your face like the type R's, cheaper tires that wear less often, cheaper upkeep, heated front seats, sunroof, blindspot monitoring, weighs about 200lb less than a type R, costs $11k(US) less than type R That should sum up the most pros and cons. Either car is a great choice, but unless you have no budget limits, the Si would be a smarter choice if you mostly plan on daily driving it around city and traffic. Type R if you plan on more higher speed runs and need the convenience of a hatch trunk
I have the touring 2.0 love it. Haven't been on the track but I have noticed on some tighter turns it fights a bit to go around. I got to drive an Si and it has way better handling feel. If you need the space I say go accord 2.0 its fun. But you want more fun go Si. Plus the accords stick shit back when I was test driving didn't feel great in my opinion, Si was better.
Couldn't agree more. In 07 I rode in my father in laws si and that's when I fell in love with the vtec. I'm finally able to afford a new si and they do away with the vtec 😭😠😭
96 to 01 civics are still worth a lot because people weren't really buying them before the tuner scene took over. Engines were easier to mod, the average knowledgeable teenager / young 20's guy/girl could maintain them and tune them themselves. Modern civic si won't be worth that. Never buy a car thinking it'll be worth money in the future.
Well, I bought my 2020 Si for $23,500, drove it for a year, put 18,000 miles on it, and sold it for $26,500… I wouldn’t really say they’re that much harder to tune though. Nowadays you can just get a hondata and flash a tune on it and instantly gain 50hp without any other modifications. Oil changes were easy as always, but that’s all I had to do since it’s a Honda. But I agree, never buy a car thinking it’ll be a good investment
I have one, I don't believe it's a future classic. It's a car that'll probably be thrashed and smashed once they drop below 5k to buy.. Mine cost me 20k and tho it is good fun it's not one I plan on keeping as there is several disappointing aspects to the car. One being how common they are. Mines a 2020 and there's 4 others within a mile of me and more when I head into town.. The older ones from 2017 to 19 are as common as dirt round here to. My advice if you really want the top spec civic is save yourself a few thousand and buy the 17 or 18 one.. The differences aren't that big. Performance wise they're identical. This will be my last Honda, I'm just using it for work now but my next car I'll be going back to German cars.
Another grown man child dressed like he is straight out of watchdogs saying nothing of consequence about a car that everyone else has already talked about.
Would of been better if they just put the 2.0 NA (non turbo) type r engine on the SI. This 1.5 doesn't even have vtec. With a factory turbo running 0 to 60 in 6 sec. Taking a page out of the fiesta st. You going to have to buy a turbo twice the size and it's not cheap to gain a significant power. You get what you pay for. This is a laughable sport car.
Car and Driver actually did a 0 to 60 around 6 seconds. VTEC isn't really needed or beneficial all that much in conjunction with a turbo. And as far as the CTR, even it only has one cam with VTEC.
You’ve never driven one, it’s easy to tell. Maybe you also never drove a 9th GEN either. Just like the type R they aren’t meant to kill it in a straight line. It’s made to corner 1G in the turns and be fun. For everything you get in a 20’ , full safety suite acc l, LKA, LW, FCW with stop, auto full LED HL, adaptive dampers, 450 watt system, actual mechanical limited slip(no bullshit electronic VAQ) , sunroof heated seats. Invoice is 24150. There’s not a better value in a car that offers all the same benefits and fun, 5 star safety for less.
I don’t need one, but now I want one!
My thoughts exactly!
What A GREAT video man!!! Wow.
I wish Honda would consider hatchback version of the Si.
ua-cam.com/video/hdJE5yEz6ZM/v-deo.html here it is!
The sport touring is just as nice tbh. I would stay the type r but that's a completely different monster
@@ms3173 That's the sport touring hatchback w/manual transmission, technically a different trim than the Si, but an awesome Civic nonetheless.
@@alexc7864 The si sedan feels more powerful and drives better .
I wish Honda would consider a 2 door and sedan version of the type R
Best review I have found on this Si so far. Very informative on all segments especially letting us here the exhaust and sound system, and really covering what the bolster seats look like. Pretty cool car. TY.
Feels like every other review is of a red si, which I feel is the worst color for this platform.
Best bang for the buck entry-level sports car
John San Felipe sports car? A civic is not a sports car lol
Definitely, WRX base is definitely a close second, I really like the si but you can’t beat AWD Tbh
A sedan and coupe, but no hatchback in the si offered?
@@gregorymann9185 Although a hatchback Si would have been AWESOME, Honda probably made the assumption that an Si hatch would have stolen potential sales from the Type R.
Veloster N far exceeds this in its base form. And the pp veloster N is 95% of a type R with more customization and an actual exhaust note
Thank you for including the sound system in your review. Nobody else has done that yet, and even though I already have a 2020 Civic Si on order, I remained curious if the sound system was any good. So again, thanks for your answer.
I've had mine for about a month now. The audio is good, but I replaced the front speakers anyways. The factory speakers have a nice rubber surround, but very small magnets.
Be prepared for the horrible rev hang, leaky valve cover gasket and it completely running out of breath after 5k rpm's, this I likely due to the tiny intercooler heat soaking after one pull, pathetic. My Focust ST's was just as bad. Other than that I like mine, 2020 black. Seriously, I just discovered today the valve cover gasket and it seems like it's common so look for it. Good luck with yours.
Matt Boumansour were is it leaking from the valve cover ? Front or back ? Small seepage or ?
@@totljag1 Front, I took it in and they told me they lube the rubber gasket before installing and that was what I was seeing. Frankly I think it's a crock as it's migrating down the head but I get that there can be some reminance left over. It is a seepage and not a profuse leak. Its documented now though. But I'm not the only one to see this if you look on the forums. I forgot to mention the weak clutches too, so if you plan on modifying make sure you budget in the $700+ for a new clutch.
@@totljag1 its coming from the valve cover.
Your video does this car justice. Thank you I love my 2020 si
my first manual, having lots of fun with it, and even took the freeway to work no issues
Awesome review, I love this car.
Beautiful sedan
Awesome editing style 👍
Thanks!
Have they fixed the issue with the oil diolotion yet? Thats the only reason why i wont touch that car yet.
ricky duran The oil dilution issue is still around, but it isn’t nearly bad as many make it out to be. Usually only occurs in extreme cold climates on cold starts. If you live in normal climates and change the oil a little earlier at 3,500-4k miles it’s likely to last as long as any other turbo engine.
The most important thing Honda refuses to fix in the US. They did fix it in China, but refusing to do the right thing in the US. Shame.
@@seth_ap148 does it help let it idle a little before driving it when it's Cold?
HondaMan Vtec no, Honda recommends an idle time no longer than 30-45 seconds
Honda has made an update to the 2019 and 2020 models to heat them up faster and help burn off blow-by gasoline. The 2017 and 2018 models have an update that an owner can get by taking in their Honda to the dealership or oil change etc..
What do think of this price today? For this same model including taxes and fees 34k and 30k miles on odo?
4:16 - 4:30. car looks so gorgeous! great and fun review, tho.
Love my 2020 Si. I got a 2 door though. I wish it did come in hatchback, but still a great car. Love the review. Subbed.
Thanks! 😁
I wish Honda would fix the rev hang in these cars. I had a 2020 Si Coupe and the rev hang drove me nuts to the point it's one of the reasons I got rid of the car. It's a nice car but the rev hang ruins it for me. I would've probably kept the car if it had no rev hang.
Another great review!
Appreciate it! 😁
Is the car fast compared to the Brz/86 ? Or similar power
Does it have power mirrors?
Where can I find one???
Just tested the 2022. Loved it but you can't find the damn things ANYWHERE.
This model sounds equally good.
Please help me find one!
I will only buy a car with a manual transmission, which this obviously has.
Where can I find one???
Please, help!
carvana and vroom
My local dealership is getting a blue one in about 3 weeks but won't get a grey one in for 2 to 3 months. I think I like the grey better but really don't want to wait 2 or 3 months to get one 2 or 3 weeks is gonna be hard enough lol
Good looking color. Is that lunar silver Same as the passport? Own a 2018 si and just rolled over 20,000 miles haven’t had any problems with it. Averaging 35mpg.
*the office* Parkour parkour!
.. and then trunk review
Lol need more parkour in my reviews!
Is this the standard 2020 Si
I really don’t like the rev hang when you change gears smh they need to do something about that
CarlosVieraOfficial Hondata flashpro
Sergio Aguirre I know how to power shift I’m saying that coming out of the dealer with a new si with rev hang is annoying
Sergio Aguirre thanks
I had a 2020 Si Coupe and the rev hang is what eventually motivated me to trade it in. I have a 2023 WRX now and there's no rev hang in that car and I'm much happier with that car. Clutch was also slipping bad in the Si buit the rev hang is one of the biggest reasons I got rid of it. Had it disabled with Hondata but that only disables it to a certain degree (although the car does drive better with it disabled). I wanted a car with absolutely no rev hang whatsoever. It's the reason I wouldn't buy another Si though. Love how the car looks and besides the rev hang, I love everything about it but the rev hang ruined the car for me. Honda needs to fix that big time. It made me hate the car. It drove me nuts.
I wanna trade my sport hatch for this exact color...
Awesome review👍
Thanks!
The dealership told me "we don't have any 2020s in stock right now, we do have a lot of 2019-" "I want the 2020," I replied. I got a 2020 in modern steel, no regrets
Waiting on my 2020 SI in Modern steel, arrives on Monday, picking it up on Wednesday.
@@RyGuyTheAVGuy it's modern steel or silver, those are the best colors in my opinion. It's a fun car to drive and economical surprisingly
@Daniel Hernandez Very easy to drive stick, i've driven a lot and this thing is butter smooth, perfect for a beginner.
I have the ext wish I got the si but still love the car
Love the LED lights but I’m tired of people flashing their lights at me. Sorry my high beams are not on.
Rice Wilson I got this car a few days ago and have had people flash their brights at me at least ten times already.
Sometimes the lights aren't adjusted correctly from the factory but you can adjust them super easily :) At least in California there are also laws that require this.
Thats what happens when you have shit looking bright led lights on cars, how fukn stupid
TS198 I won’t lie, I’m guilty of that. The lights are so bright that it really looks like high beams are on.
Some people mistake their LED DRL (DAYTIME RUNNING LIGHTS) for their low beams. I see this all the time. Your headlights are not on.
The clutch pedal is very slippery if you have wet shoes.
When you sat behind the driver seat when you were talking about space, did you move the driver seat forward or did you leave it where you set it? Im 6’1 thats why im asking lol
No I never move the drivers seat. I always will show back seat room behind my own driving position 👍
Hey Gold Pony. Nice review! Question! This or the 2020 VW Jetta GLI?
For me personally... I'd go Si for the resale value and I like the manual a little better but both are super fun cars!
@@goldpony
Thanks for your help! Much appreciated.
@@goldpony
Would the SI be a taker over the GT86 or BRZ?
@@Coolmaninmotion I personally own a 2019 si considerably stock and beat up many brz's in the last 7 months.
Amado Landin yes hands down
Wish they didn’t have oil dilusion problems.
Hate that HDMI exhaust tip...
Would have been nicer to have the duel exhaust setup right?
I think it looks cool
It works well in person.
I also learned on a HondaS2000 ayy
A good daily 👍🏼
I'm being told next year there will be no manual transmission in the si? What? Honda says they are tired of people blaming them for the clutch burning out when in reality it's because people can't drive. Have you heard anything about this?
Also my local dealership said they had a guy bring a type r back with a burnt up clutch after only 1,500 miles?
The clutch issues is Honda. I had a 2020 Si Coupe and the clutch had been slipping since I got it. Don't know how it is in the newer Si's but I do know the clutches in the 10th generation are crap because of Honda. The rev hang is terrible in those cars and that doesn't help with the clutch. That wears it out faster.
sport have better looking exhaust tips than si lol
it grows on you
Lol but I love my USB port!! 😝
@8:50 PARKOUR
Si or type R ?
Depends on your budget boy
@@ryadhasanahmed5443 No it doesnt chump. I prefer the Si sedan. It has more class. Type R is too rice.
@@attackroflchopter4403 are you stupid? How on earth is it rice? The wing and the vents are functional you delusional idiot do some research 🤦♂️
Type R cons: stiffer suspension, higher maintenance, expensive tires, worse fuel consumption, so sunroof, no heated seats, no blind spot monitoring, no manual ebrake, fake exhaust cabin noise, a bit too flashy on the red accents.
Type R pros: 306hp, 2.0L VTech turbo engine, made in UK, hatchback configuration, brembo 4 piston breaks in front, wide body kit with aero vents that actually work, extreme bucket seats for maximum body grip, quicker than the Si, auto rev match
Si cons: tiny 1.5L turbo engine (non VTech), not much change in power since 2006 (embarrassing), no manual hand brake, no hatchback configuration, ugly chrome accents around doors, no auto rev match (if that's even an issue?)
Si pros: much easier to live with as a daily driver, better fuel economy, similar fun to type R but a bit slower, nice bucket seats that aren't too in your face like the type R's, cheaper tires that wear less often, cheaper upkeep, heated front seats, sunroof, blindspot monitoring, weighs about 200lb less than a type R, costs $11k(US) less than type R
That should sum up the most pros and cons. Either car is a great choice, but unless you have no budget limits, the Si would be a smarter choice if you mostly plan on daily driving it around city and traffic. Type R if you plan on more higher speed runs and need the convenience of a hatch trunk
No one seems to mention oil delusion and carbon buildup problem.
Maybe it just happened to you?
8:42 nice one
the coupe looks decent. less gaming mouse.
< Accord Sport 2.0 6 SPM
Accord is a lot bigger and heavier. My brother has one and it had major brake fade on the track
Too heavy.
needs an lsd bad
I have the touring 2.0 love it. Haven't been on the track but I have noticed on some tighter turns it fights a bit to go around. I got to drive an Si and it has way better handling feel. If you need the space I say go accord 2.0 its fun. But you want more fun go Si. Plus the accords stick shit back when I was test driving didn't feel great in my opinion, Si was better.
Those basically don’t exist. If you look online there’s about 2 for sale
@2:40, there goes that ridiculous "enhanced" (fake) engine noise that plays inside the cabin through the speakers.
it plays the engine noise through the speakers, it's good if you use the sound to tell when to shift.
wish it had vtec
Me too 😏
Couldn't agree more. In 07 I rode in my father in laws si and that's when I fell in love with the vtec. I'm finally able to afford a new si and they do away with the vtec 😭😠😭
I prefer 2 door SI coupe
96 to 01 civics are still worth a lot because people weren't really buying them before the tuner scene took over. Engines were easier to mod, the average knowledgeable teenager / young 20's guy/girl could maintain them and tune them themselves.
Modern civic si won't be worth that. Never buy a car thinking it'll be worth money in the future.
Well, I bought my 2020 Si for $23,500, drove it for a year, put 18,000 miles on it, and sold it for $26,500… I wouldn’t really say they’re that much harder to tune though. Nowadays you can just get a hondata and flash a tune on it and instantly gain 50hp without any other modifications. Oil changes were easy as always, but that’s all I had to do since it’s a Honda. But I agree, never buy a car thinking it’ll be a good investment
Just bring it to europe ffs
Get the 2020 2.0 Accord Sport. It’s better
U shold do I typ-R
Fuel dilution
Sweet, bro, jump on that meme wagon.
I have one, I don't believe it's a future classic. It's a car that'll probably be thrashed and smashed once they drop below 5k to buy.. Mine cost me 20k and tho it is good fun it's not one I plan on keeping as there is several disappointing aspects to the car. One being how common they are. Mines a 2020 and there's 4 others within a mile of me and more when I head into town.. The older ones from 2017 to 19 are as common as dirt round here to. My advice if you really want the top spec civic is save yourself a few thousand and buy the 17 or 18 one.. The differences aren't that big. Performance wise they're identical. This will be my last Honda, I'm just using it for work now but my next car I'll be going back to German cars.
How did you enjoy the drive with this gen SI?
2:58 sounded like he said the N word
You are fucking cute!
It looks like a fake sports car
The civic has always been a sports car dressed up to be grandmas car. Ask Oscar Jackson. Go lay down.
Another grown man child dressed like he is straight out of watchdogs saying nothing of consequence about a car that everyone else has already talked about.
Appreciate the kind words my friend.
Who pissed in your cereal?
Rude
Max Diputs asshole
Would of been better if they just put the 2.0 NA (non turbo) type r engine on the SI. This 1.5 doesn't even have vtec. With a factory turbo running 0 to 60 in 6 sec. Taking a page out of the fiesta st. You going to have to buy a turbo twice the size and it's not cheap to gain a significant power. You get what you pay for. This is a laughable sport car.
Car and Driver actually did a 0 to 60 around 6 seconds. VTEC isn't really needed or beneficial all that much in conjunction with a turbo. And as far as the CTR, even it only has one cam with VTEC.
I think it would have cost too much to detune the Type R engine and also they dont want it to be too close to the type R
You’ve never driven one, it’s easy to tell. Maybe you also never drove a 9th GEN either. Just like the type R they aren’t meant to kill it in a straight line. It’s made to corner 1G in the turns and be fun. For everything you get in a 20’ , full safety suite acc l, LKA, LW, FCW with stop, auto full LED HL, adaptive dampers, 450 watt system, actual mechanical limited slip(no bullshit electronic VAQ) , sunroof heated seats. Invoice is 24150. There’s not a better value in a car that offers all the same benefits and fun, 5 star safety for less.
Hey man just a note that the Type R is also turbocharged...
I’d rather have a camaro
Great review!
Thanks!