I’ve encouraged producers to make instrumental music as artists just like electronic musicians/DJs have been doing for ever. We don’t need someone else to validate our creativity… If an artist doesn’t see your value, choose yourself.
That's what I have started doing. I do not care artists as much as these days now. Most of them do not understand the business process in the end of the day. The whole thing on royalties, if you do not want to pay a producer then make your own beats for your "songs". It's that simple.
And create projects with rappers that do want to make music with real people. Music connoisseurs are not gonna want robot music, just like they don’t want bandwagon unauthentic music.
Yup! I started production on fruity loops 1 just to at least learn on my own but also went to music school later down the road. Like prince said to own your masters, artists ought to at least learn a few basics (hell get Serato studio because it’s suuuuper easy , even more than Ableton or Logic and maybe even FL studio, which i have all of them because I also teach). Learn so you can own your journey. ❤
anyone else been struggling with motivation massively lately? every time i try to make a loop, or even full beat, theres a voice in the back of my mind saying "why are you even wasting your time doing this? these skills will be worthless in a couple years?" ...
There is so many upsides to working with a HUMAN as a producer 💯 the AI doesn't have its own audience, you're on your own for promotion. If you work with a producer who has a similar following, you can double your visibility. If you turn that opportunity down, you're cutting engagement about half. The AI isn't gonna promote that shit
1000p. You’re paying us for our time, craft, creativity, skill, ability. If it take me 2min to make a beat or 2days the amount of time doesn’t equate to quality. - Saying that a producer only “programs” a beat is like say these “artists” only sing GHOST written lyrics. So who is really the REAL ONES here. GREAT VIDEO 💯
Weird but refreshing hearing you use the toxic relationship analogy. Not used to hearing you speak on subjects in regards to relationships personally. Thanks for the info Pain!!
I don’t generally speak on personal life but funny enough, after making this video, a toxic ex sent me a message after not hearing from her for 10’glorious years
I truly believe there is a a battle brewing between Creative vs “non-creative” people (anyone can be creative truthfully). It seems online a lot of folks are hiding behind A.I as a reason to down creatives. Non C’s see this a leveling the playing field.
Yes. we are the conspiracy. Never mind the fact that we have spent a lifetime honing and working on our craft and they didn't. And now somehow that's our fault.
this is stupid. non creatives respect artists. virtually everyone listens to music, u really think those people hated their favorite artists all along? wtf?
I'm developing an new appreciation for A.I. software. I am beginning to notice how economical music production is becoming and how avenues are beginning to open up for beginners and those who cannot afford pro services. Not only this, but even pro engineers have been reviewing A.I. plugins on UA-cam and express that such tools are a big enhancement to their workflow. They don't seem to be afraid of losing their jobs.
Of course there are going to be artists and labels that will like the reduction in expenses that AI offers, but I think that the human interaction aspect of art will always be more appealing. I see the AI thing being used to make cheap, assembly line type music, primarily by those for who the bottom line is the top priority. Those who appreciate human interaction and artistry will continue to collaborate with other humans.
@@DJPain1 Right. I just mean that there are probably those who are willing to pay a little more for music made by other humans, rather than by a computer and would rather build relationships with others.
If a artist hears a beat they like I dont think they will care if its AI or human made. AI Might cut down on beat sales but to say it will completly eliminate human producers seems like a stretch to me
Im glad you read the terms and conditions. Most of are just talking about AI and have no real knowledge or have done any research. From the Spundful terms it's like they are juat covering their butts if copyright law strikes them down. What you described is like loop packs. I can use the to make transformationed works but I can resell the same loop pack. If Soundful was AI and I "owned" it. Shouldn't I be able to sell the exact same piece of music?
Your point about using AI to mimic an artist's voice to use on your track to help pitch it to them is interesting. You know R Kelly did that back in the day. He would mimic artists like Michael Jackson and Ron Isley on the tracks he produced for them. That would help them hear what they could do on the track. In the long run I think AI is another step toward the dumbing down of society in general. just my opinion though.
I dont think AI will takeover the beatmaking industry maybe the Trap scene as its the easiest beats to make.When comes to R&B and other genres it will be difficult without human emotion.
I think the key to stopping it is preventing the AI from using anything made by a talented human in order to train it. The record companies need to disallow any AI training off of material they own. Make sure they can only train the AI with an inferior product.
A part of me has a feeling that the better AI gets the more it might push or force producers and artist to advance in a creative way we never even thought possible. Alot of the top music today is great but let’s face it ,compared to the classics it lacks in that feeing older music used to have ..IMO. I have a hard time believing AI will be able to compose something on par to an Isley brothers classic or anything timeless but once the AI beats are as good as anything on todays radio or top hits with the click of a button those radio hits of today won’t be sounding so good after a while which might be what pushes us as a whole to move forward and advance creatively. I think we have been long over due for a musical revolution.. what ever that might even mean lol
The most important question for me about all this A.I. hoopla ...will be whether or not I can buy a subscription to an A.I. service and then monetize the content that I create from it ...? I think that once we know the answers to that ....we will have a clear picture ....as to what we can get away with ...
Honestly, I believe that most of these new ai music creation tools and services are meant to appeal to people with lesser creative talent to build some sort of confidence or something. Seriously speaking, there is no shortage of people who think they should be the next big thing in the music business, talented or not. I really believe that most of the software and services available to make it "easy" to create music like the "pros" is intended to create other opportunities that lesser talented people tend to go after like fake spotify spins and whatnot.
Well I’m almost 40 years old so I guess I got a good 5 years left until ai takes over and we are no longer needed as producers so glad I have multiple businesses. But I love making music for the love of doing it
🤷🏽♂️ The argument to replace producers applies to artists as well. Lets be real, which do you guys think is more likely to succeed: an artist that knows nothing about production using their own AI beats, or a producer using AI to mimic the artists that fit their style of beats and playlisting them, selling to bigger artists, etc. ?
By her standard, her artistry is heavy breathing into a mic for 2 minutes. Devaluation can go both ways, and it’s amazing she doesn’t hear the tone-deaf nature of her post
I feel like this should encourage music producers to learn some type of instrument to compete with the future of A.I.. I still feel like no amount of Artificial Intelligence will mimic the swing and unpredictable nature of the late and Great J Dilla.
The real risk of AI to producers are us smaller ones still trying to get placements/make a name for our selves. Imagine posting a beat online that is fire or the idea of the beat is something new… then AI or larger producers comes along and run a sample through an AI program that mimics the either the melody, cords, progression etc…. Now AI rewrites it and boom the small producers get over looked while having our ideas and creations copied and redone. 😢
What i think is that AI is continuously learning, at a point you will get a beat generator with all the bells and whistles that is good for all genres. The only thing that can stop this is the AI creators self, but i don't see this happen. What is see is that there will be instead of song writers, AI prompt writers. Who can write the best prompt will run with the best material that will be so generated that no lawsuit will have a leg to stand on.
I watched your copyright video. Should do another revamp for the ed sheeran case because i see a lot of misinformation spreading about copyrights. Noe i have to go back and look at that chart you posted lol
I feel like they’ll try to copy new producers who is creating new waves, so AI will just be regenerating what’s already hot. But as it advances over the years there’s a possibility that it might start creating new waves on its own but who knows. Producers shouldn’t give up tho.
I was a singer songwriter with an acoustic-electric Ovation before I went to music school and discovered I wanted to dj. I’m now heading into year 20 as an award winning dj and going back to my production roots since getting into MPC production in 2019. I have been playing music since I was 5 and I will be 40 this year. I’ve taught kids and adults , composed hour long dance opera for 30 dancers, made music for national anthem remixes in other countries , blah blah blah … All this to say that the Brittany person sounds like her music sucks and it’s generic and quantized AF. 😊 Will watch the rest of the video now that I got that off my chest. She should really wise up and realize that “back in the day”, an attitude like hers wouldn’t even get her a seat in any studio let alone now with the advance of laptop production and such. But anyway…
DJ pain at the end you said something interesting about using AI assisted songwriting to create better producer to pitch to major artists. Do you really think if you send them a song with AI vocals, it'll inspire them to write their own lyrics to it? I mean you already gave them a direction to the their writing toward, which even subconsciously they can't forget. I know lots of artists who won't use type beats for the same reason. It's hard for some writers to create a blank canvas when it's already been suggested what this record could sound like
@DJ Pain 1 oh I know what you meant bro. But just to clarify, you think artists will include the vocals in the demo when they pitch the idea, or just the beat?
My Answer To Anyone That Thinks A Producers Price Is To High You Have To Choices Negotiate a Price That Is Good For Both Of You Or Make a Beat / DO IT YOUR SELF Good Luck
That Britney comment 🤦♂ Instead of making these RICH greedy companies loosen their grip on income generated from music to go towards the artists, which would be HER, her bright idea is to cut down on her counterparts portion?? Man I hoped they cooked her lol Artists really got to stick together now in these times.
That Drake AI song is getting a stupid amount of streams. It keeps getting taken down and reposted on here and getting hundreds of thousands of views and there's people saying it's better than anything Drake has made in years. You could also argue that Drake doesn't (to my knowledge) write his stuff in the first place, so the fact that he didn't write it (Ghostwriter guy did supposeddly) isn't as big of a deal as if it were for example Kendrick Lamar.
@@sontwisted if you use ghostwriters once it makes it hard to trust that you write anything else you claim to write. Im sure he has a balance of ghostwriters and writing on his own or with credited writers but I don't think his fans actually care either way
Rappers pay the amount of money the producer believes its his value after years and time in the industry. And its for the license only, we producers make a living by royalties. The song you made wouldn't exist without the beat we produced so its 50/50
some producers take a melody loop and a drum loop and put it together , and calls it a beat . how much difference with an AI? i think that AI can replace only this type of producers imho. maybe i'm wrong maybe i'm right 🫡
@@sontwisted yeah for sure, but there are too many tools to Key and Sync two loops, u can do It with a mobile app too , ideally u can do It this operation with headphones turned off
Ai corporations in the TV and commercial space reason to cut corners with us as if corporations don’t cut corners with us anyway but I don’t think AI will be strong enough to knock out somebody’s credentials or experience myself I just least beast to create a Fanbase and network with artists and create workshops with them because without relationships, I would anybody strive in anything 💎💎
I'm guessing that Soundful IS an AI, but they've trained it on copyrighted music so they are covering their assess by not promising any rights to users. Maybe next week the copyright office will decide that using one of these beats is a violation of the rights of one of songs that was used to train it.
@@DJPain1 Sure. That's possible. But it's a weird thing to lie about. Saying it's made by AI when it isn't. Given how much real AI there is out there. You're gonna get found out pretty soon. OTOH, uncertainty about the legal situation of AI generated beats which were trained on copyrighted beats is sufficient to explain the licensing restrictions that tell people they can't use the beats commercially. I mean obviously this AI company expects you to use them commercially, that's their business model. They just don't want to be liable if you do it.
It’s funny how producers and artists grumble. We have to respect each other’s business. We all trying to eat at the end of the day. Music is often a collaborative experience. Watch how A.I. will over power both producer and Artist. One man can’t make a entire blockbuster film by himself, movies always need a crew and paid staff. I think we should enjoy where we’re at creatively. Because the music industry is so money driven by massive corporations and since artists today have to find more creative ways to generate income it’s gonna get more difficult moving forward. Steaming pay/rate in my opinion is a disgrace to musicians but it’s still a option for growth. I tend not to think about just the music industry but this A.I. Is literally coming for the planet, writing , arts, media, music, visual FX, accounting, customer service, coding, analytics, analysis, taxes etc. My 2 cents
The "type beat" whiners are clearly not thinking. Just another example of idiots trying to take offense at stuff they need to chill out over. If someone asks me to play a jazz ballad in the style of John Coltrane, or a smooth R&B groove like Kirk Whalum... am I d*** riding on either of them? Of course not. If an artist releases some tracks that fall inline with current music trends, whether it be trap, k-pop or country... are they d*** riding other musicians, or are they simply creating a product that the market is currently demanding? The music world is based on creatives learning from the past, absorbing influences and then creating something new. "Type beat" is just another phrase for "in the style of." That's how creatives communicate. It applies to architects, cooks, singers, dancers, and many other careers.
i think that guy that commented on youtube missed the whole point of putting a artists name in a title, i would say 90% of artists who look for beats on youtube are searching for type beats in a certain niche under another rappers name, artists will never find you when your first starting out if you just put some random ass title
What about this : if i get the full commercial license from AVIA and the AI composes a song for me that totaly sounds like.. let´s say M.Jacksons "Triller" and i puplish it... I would get in trouble big time... Can i say then "Oh, you need to sue the makers of AVIA, they say i have full copyrights to this song." No AI can garanty me songs that are not sounding like known songs or beats cause it was teached with those songs. And i don´t get the point of people try´n to talk producers down caus "AI can do this, too". I do music cause i love doing it.... i can express me mood, can integrate my personality in it. I have a personal style. Every AI needs "my music" (and musik of other artists) to learn what music is. So every AI will sound like music that already exists.
@@DJPain1 so they´re just not telling the truth. Does´nt matter, i would not use this thing. I make music cause i like to compose and arrange.... it´s fun to do this... not so much fun to watch an AI doing something like composing.
Personally I wonder why tech geeks are constantly trying to replace creative artists with all these software systems. Why is silicone valley trying to make real human talent worthless?
she need to get a hit song without using a beat lets see how well that work out. They dont want to pay us for the time and effort put out to make a beats. Electricity bill is not going to pay it self.
people that want to cut the cost of beats for themselves should learn to make it themselves... obviously they ain't on the graft of it yet want it free...jokas
Creativity is at a all time low. I think your missing the bigger picture of all of this. Producers and artists are going to have to tap into other ways to make music great again. Or they won’t be able to compete. If AI is the way then so be it. But it doesn’t have to be solely AI tho. Just this controversial situation shows how boring music is & how nothing is going on or exciting about music today.
What occupations won't A.I. have an impact on? A.I. has already taken numerous jobs. All this is making me think of what possible connection the dawn of A.I. might have to the bible book of Revelation, in regards to the antichrist and the beast and all that. It's not looking good. But keep on producing. At the very least you'll still have streaming royalties though it might not create the money flow one dreams of. On another note though, I think this A.I. situtation might bring about a subculture of people who choose to band together rather than abandon their humanity to A.I. Live bands would be one such group of people. Why can't producers and artists do the same? Toxic people have always been around and always will be. Let them have their A.I. pacifier since they love having crap in their mouth, pun intended.
Most of these artist is trash anyway! and producers will continue to do what they do and keep being creative, AI has to wait on trends in order reproduce, that shit will never Stop HipHop, and i’m pretty sure laws will be passed to circumvent this BS! I salute all creatives who respect and love the culture genuinely, all the rest can keep AI
IF it's the case, the sword swings two ways. I can generate an AI voice to sing or rap over my beat. I'm not paying for a human just pushing air through her throat.
I feel like this should encourage music producers to learn some type of instrument to compete with the future of A.I.. I still feel like no amount of Artificial Intelligence will mimic the swing and unpredictable nature of the late and Great J Dilla.
My latest sample pack was NOT made by AI: bsta.rs/1c616c0e9
I’ve encouraged producers to make instrumental music as artists just like electronic musicians/DJs have been doing for ever. We don’t need someone else to validate our creativity… If an artist doesn’t see your value, choose yourself.
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That's what I have started doing. I do not care artists as much as these days now. Most of them do not understand the business process in the end of the day. The whole thing on royalties, if you do not want to pay a producer then make your own beats for your "songs". It's that simple.
And create projects with rappers that do want to make music with real people. Music connoisseurs are not gonna want robot music, just like they don’t want bandwagon unauthentic music.
Yup! I started production on fruity loops 1 just to at least learn on my own but also went to music school later down the road. Like prince said to own your masters, artists ought to at least learn a few basics (hell get Serato studio because it’s suuuuper easy , even more than Ableton or Logic and maybe even FL studio, which i have all of them because I also teach). Learn so you can own your journey. ❤
anyone else been struggling with motivation massively lately? every time i try to make a loop, or even full beat, theres a voice in the back of my mind saying "why are you even wasting your time doing this? these skills will be worthless in a couple years?" ...
We all started making beats because we love it I guess. So that´s still the main point I feel. Thanks for the video!
Very good point
There is so many upsides to working with a HUMAN as a producer 💯 the AI doesn't have its own audience, you're on your own for promotion. If you work with a producer who has a similar following, you can double your visibility. If you turn that opportunity down, you're cutting engagement about half. The AI isn't gonna promote that shit
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do not forget that artists in this case can also be replaced with the help of artificial intelligence.
You’re saying everything I would, we are in an interesting place. Keep these things coming , very entertaining and up to date on the music AI world.
1000p. You’re paying us for our time, craft, creativity, skill, ability. If it take me 2min to make a beat or 2days the amount of time doesn’t equate to quality. - Saying that a producer only “programs” a beat is like say these “artists” only sing GHOST written lyrics. So who is really the REAL ONES here. GREAT VIDEO 💯
Exactly
Beat maker and artists relationships has been jacked up for a long time now. All you hear on both ends is, I’m more important than you.🤦🏾♂️ sad!
Exactly
Weird but refreshing hearing you use the toxic relationship analogy.
Not used to hearing you speak on subjects in regards to relationships personally.
Thanks for the info Pain!!
I don’t generally speak on personal life but funny enough, after making this video, a toxic ex sent me a message after not hearing from her for 10’glorious years
@@DJPain1 that’s a crazy unintentional manifestation lol, maybe she was waiting for this analogy 😂
I truly believe there is a a battle brewing between Creative vs “non-creative” people (anyone can be creative truthfully). It seems online a lot of folks are hiding behind A.I as a reason to down creatives. Non C’s see this a leveling the playing field.
Yes. we are the conspiracy. Never mind the fact that we have spent a lifetime honing and working on our craft and they didn't. And now somehow that's our fault.
this is stupid. non creatives respect artists. virtually everyone listens to music, u really think those people hated their favorite artists all along? wtf?
Crafts keep evolving
@@jukii.mp3 I think we can both agree that this is different.
I'm developing an new appreciation for A.I. software. I am beginning to notice how economical music production is becoming and how avenues are beginning to open up for beginners and those who cannot afford pro services. Not only this, but even pro engineers have been reviewing A.I. plugins on UA-cam and express that such tools are a big enhancement to their workflow. They don't seem to be afraid of losing their jobs.
Of course there are going to be artists and labels that will like the reduction in expenses that AI offers, but I think that the human interaction aspect of art will always be more appealing.
I see the AI thing being used to make cheap, assembly line type music, primarily by those for who the bottom line is the top priority.
Those who appreciate human interaction and artistry will continue to collaborate with other humans.
The bottom line is the priority for the whole music business
@@DJPain1
Right. I just mean that there are probably those who are willing to pay a little more for music made by other humans, rather than by a computer and would rather build relationships with others.
As someone who first started making beats on a DR-5 in 2002, I'm just going to go outside and yell at a cloud lol
😂
Mannnnnnn the DR-5 was my first beat making gear too. We actually had a class in school called Recording Lab.
Someone should just pull the plug on A.I. and call it a day.
If a artist hears a beat they like I dont think they will care if its AI or human made. AI Might cut down on beat sales but to say it will completly eliminate human producers seems like a stretch to me
Yeah a lot of companies call themselves "AI" because it improves their perception. It's more valuable to call it "AI"
Im glad you read the terms and conditions. Most of are just talking about AI and have no real knowledge or have done any research.
From the Spundful terms it's like they are juat covering their butts if copyright law strikes them down. What you described is like loop packs. I can use the to make transformationed works but I can resell the same loop pack.
If Soundful was AI and I "owned" it. Shouldn't I be able to sell the exact same piece of music?
Yep 🎯
Your point about using AI to mimic an artist's voice to use on your track to help pitch it to them is interesting. You know R Kelly did that back in the day. He would mimic artists like Michael Jackson and Ron Isley on the tracks he produced for them. That would help them hear what they could do on the track. In the long run I think AI is another step toward the dumbing down of society in general. just my opinion though.
Dj Chain 1🥶🥶
I’m gonna just keep buying and wearing more in my videos to be petty to the couple commenters saying they were fake
@@DJPain1 I’m here for it😂😂
I dont think AI will takeover the beatmaking industry maybe the Trap scene as its the easiest beats to make.When comes to R&B and other genres it will be difficult without human emotion.
It’ll be hard period to create really infectious melodies /top lines
I think the key to stopping it is preventing the AI from using anything made by a talented human in order to train it. The record companies need to disallow any AI training off of material they own. Make sure they can only train the AI with an inferior product.
A part of me has a feeling that the better AI gets the more it might push or force producers and artist to advance in a creative way we never even thought possible. Alot of the top music today is great but let’s face it ,compared to the classics it lacks in that feeing older music used to have ..IMO. I have a hard time believing AI will be able to compose something on par to an Isley brothers classic or anything timeless but once the AI beats are as good as anything on todays radio or top hits with the click of a button those radio hits of today won’t be sounding so good after a while which might be what pushes us as a whole to move forward and advance creatively. I think we have been long over due for a musical revolution.. what ever that might even mean lol
The most important question for me about all this A.I. hoopla ...will be whether or not I can buy a subscription to an A.I. service and then monetize the content that I create from it ...? I think that once we know the answers to that ....we will have a clear picture ....as to what we can get away with ...
How did i miss this?!?! i love your vids Pain, but you already know lmfao...
MUCH LOVE G!!
Thank you 🙏🏽
Honestly, I believe that most of these new ai music creation tools and services are meant to appeal to people with lesser creative talent to build some sort of confidence or something. Seriously speaking, there is no shortage of people who think they should be the next big thing in the music business, talented or not. I really believe that most of the software and services available to make it "easy" to create music like the "pros" is intended to create other opportunities that lesser talented people tend to go after like fake spotify spins and whatnot.
A lot of them were created to prevent copyright claims
HONESTLY THE FACT THAT ARTISTS ARE USING THIS JUST MAKES ME WANNA QUIT MUSIC NOBODY RESPECTS US
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Quit music? you better get you some ai vocals and own the whole song this is not a one sided situation
Well I’m almost 40 years old so I guess I got a good 5 years left until ai takes over and we are no longer needed as producers so glad I have multiple businesses. But I love making music for the love of doing it
🤷🏽♂️ The argument to replace producers applies to artists as well. Lets be real, which do you guys think is more likely to succeed: an artist that knows nothing about production using their own AI beats, or a producer using AI to mimic the artists that fit their style of beats and playlisting them, selling to bigger artists, etc. ?
By her standard, her artistry is heavy breathing into a mic for 2 minutes. Devaluation can go both ways, and it’s amazing she doesn’t hear the tone-deaf nature of her post
I feel like this should encourage music producers to learn some type of instrument to compete with the future of A.I.. I still feel like no amount of Artificial Intelligence will mimic the swing and unpredictable nature of the late and Great J Dilla.
The real risk of AI to producers are us smaller ones still trying to get placements/make a name for our selves. Imagine posting a beat online that is fire or the idea of the beat is something new… then AI or larger producers comes along and run a sample through an AI program that mimics the either the melody, cords, progression etc…. Now AI rewrites it and boom the small producers get over looked while having our ideas and creations copied and redone. 😢
Sobusr ai yoursrlf to create full songs and release those
@@sontwisted I do, but you’re completely missing the point. Thanks for the comment tho. 🤦♂️
The problem comes in about copyright voices is it damn near impossible. Does that mean Ghostface should sue Action Bronson?
He should have 😅
@DJPain1 I am amazed you were able to decipher my broken English, lol. Good job!!! I fixed it!
What i think is that AI is continuously learning, at a point you will get a beat generator with all the bells and whistles that is good for all genres. The only thing that can stop this is the AI creators self, but i don't see this happen. What is see is that there will be instead of song writers, AI prompt writers. Who can write the best prompt will run with the best material that will be so generated that no lawsuit will have a leg to stand on.
the future will have no jobs for humanity
I watched your copyright video. Should do another revamp for the ed sheeran case because i see a lot of misinformation spreading about copyrights. Noe i have to go back and look at that chart you posted lol
We appreciate your videos Pain
Thank you
don't forget who ai learns it from how they gonna make a new waves without us producers
I feel like they’ll try to copy new producers who is creating new waves, so AI will just be regenerating what’s already hot. But as it advances over the years there’s a possibility that it might start creating new waves on its own but who knows. Producers shouldn’t give up tho.
United we stand divided we fall…
I was a singer songwriter with an acoustic-electric Ovation before I went to music school and discovered I wanted to dj. I’m now heading into year 20 as an award winning dj and going back to my production roots since getting into MPC production in 2019. I have been playing music since I was 5 and I will be 40 this year. I’ve taught kids and adults , composed hour long dance opera for 30 dancers, made music for national anthem remixes in other countries , blah blah blah …
All this to say that the Brittany person sounds like her music sucks and it’s generic and quantized AF. 😊
Will watch the rest of the video now that I got that off my chest. She should really wise up and realize that “back in the day”, an attitude like hers wouldn’t even get her a seat in any studio let alone now with the advance of laptop production and such. But anyway…
DJ pain at the end you said something interesting about using AI assisted songwriting to create better producer to pitch to major artists. Do you really think if you send them a song with AI vocals, it'll inspire them to write their own lyrics to it? I mean you already gave them a direction to the their writing toward, which even subconsciously they can't forget. I know lots of artists who won't use type beats for the same reason. It's hard for some writers to create a blank canvas when it's already been suggested what this record could sound like
Their own lyrics? No, I’m talking about demos.
@DJ Pain 1 oh I know what you meant bro. But just to clarify, you think artists will include the vocals in the demo when they pitch the idea, or just the beat?
@@prodyeti demos from songwriters always include the vocals as a reference but up until now, not in the artist’s own voice
@DJ Pain 1 ohh ok
My Answer To Anyone That Thinks A Producers Price Is To High You Have To Choices Negotiate a Price That Is Good For Both Of You Or Make a Beat / DO IT YOUR SELF Good Luck
How do I acquire copyright for my music?
@@south34000 you already have it. Read copyright.gov
That Britney comment 🤦♂ Instead of making these RICH greedy companies loosen their grip on income generated from music to go towards the artists, which would be HER, her bright idea is to cut down on her counterparts portion?? Man I hoped they cooked her lol Artists really got to stick together now in these times.
Yep, it’s sick
5:40 Maybe it was a Freudian slip and he is secretly an A.I. transported to a bioelectric body lmao?
That Drake AI song is getting a stupid amount of streams. It keeps getting taken down and reposted on here and getting hundreds of thousands of views and there's people saying it's better than anything Drake has made in years.
You could also argue that Drake doesn't (to my knowledge) write his stuff in the first place, so the fact that he didn't write it (Ghostwriter guy did supposeddly) isn't as big of a deal as if it were for example Kendrick Lamar.
Drake does write his own stuff
@@sontwisted if you use ghostwriters once it makes it hard to trust that you write anything else you claim to write. Im sure he has a balance of ghostwriters and writing on his own or with credited writers but I don't think his fans actually care either way
Plot twist. I can put my OWN vocals on my beats 😤
Or have ai change your voice and be a female rapper a child southern etc
Definitely people charging 5k. That's the price for a 32 bit track out from my manager.
keep making beats A.I. Vs. Humans... it's going to be a big streaming contest! 🔥🔥👍👍
There’s an ai beat generator called songen. I’ve been using it for about a year. It’s decent sounding
I don't know where these cockyness from some Rappers is coming from.
AI will gonna replace Rappers, too.
So every artist should be concerned.
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Have a feeling this is gonna end up being a series
agreed
It already is 😂
@@DJPain1 you know what I mean 😂
Rappers pay the amount of money the producer believes its his value after years and time in the industry. And its for the license only, we producers make a living by royalties. The song you made wouldn't exist without the beat we produced so its 50/50
I could be wrong but I don’t know of any rappers who have acapella songs charting billboard. 😂
Me neither
They better start beatboxing to their own vocals lol
some producers take a melody loop and a drum loop and put it together , and calls it a beat . how much difference with an AI? i think that AI can replace only this type of producers imho. maybe i'm wrong maybe i'm right 🫡
But even that requires an ear for drum and melody loops that will work together
@@sontwisted yeah for sure, but there are too many tools to Key and Sync two loops, u can do It with a mobile app too , ideally u can do It this operation with headphones turned off
Ai corporations in the TV and commercial space reason to cut corners with us as if corporations don’t cut corners with us anyway but I don’t think AI will be strong enough to knock out somebody’s credentials or experience myself I just least beast to create a Fanbase and network with artists and create workshops with them because without relationships, I would anybody strive in anything 💎💎
I'm guessing that Soundful IS an AI, but they've trained it on copyrighted music so they are covering their assess by not promising any rights to users. Maybe next week the copyright office will decide that using one of these beats is a violation of the rights of one of songs that was used to train it.
I think they have libraries of loops licensed to them
@@DJPain1 Sure. That's possible. But it's a weird thing to lie about. Saying it's made by AI when it isn't. Given how much real AI there is out there. You're gonna get found out pretty soon.
OTOH, uncertainty about the legal situation of AI generated beats which were trained on copyrighted beats is sufficient to explain the licensing restrictions that tell people they can't use the beats commercially.
I mean obviously this AI company expects you to use them commercially, that's their business model. They just don't want to be liable if you do it.
Beat maker and songwriters beware I saw an A.I. app that ghost writes for artist rap songs.
Why would beatmakers beware
It’s funny how producers and artists grumble. We have to respect each other’s business. We all trying to eat at the end of the day. Music is often a collaborative experience. Watch how A.I. will over power both producer and Artist. One man can’t make a entire blockbuster film by himself, movies always need a crew and paid staff. I think we should enjoy where we’re at creatively. Because the music industry is so money driven by massive corporations and since artists today have to find more creative ways to generate income it’s gonna get more difficult moving forward. Steaming pay/rate in my opinion is a disgrace to musicians but it’s still a option for growth. I tend not to think about just the music industry but this A.I. Is literally coming for the planet, writing , arts, media, music, visual FX, accounting, customer service, coding, analytics, analysis, taxes etc.
My 2 cents
The "type beat" whiners are clearly not thinking. Just another example of idiots trying to take offense at stuff they need to chill out over. If someone asks me to play a jazz ballad in the style of John Coltrane, or a smooth R&B groove like Kirk Whalum... am I d*** riding on either of them? Of course not. If an artist releases some tracks that fall inline with current music trends, whether it be trap, k-pop or country... are they d*** riding other musicians, or are they simply creating a product that the market is currently demanding?
The music world is based on creatives learning from the past, absorbing influences and then creating something new. "Type beat" is just another phrase for "in the style of." That's how creatives communicate. It applies to architects, cooks, singers, dancers, and many other careers.
You got it
Facts! I’ve realized that a lot of these folks just aren’t the brightest people 😅
i think that guy that commented on youtube missed the whole point of putting a artists name in a title, i would say 90% of artists who look for beats on youtube are searching for type beats in a certain niche under another rappers name, artists will never find you when your first starting out if you just put some random ass title
Yeah it was ignorant
Respect our livings
Yeah AI beat making is trashhhhhh. It’s not beat making.
If the AI programs get easy enough for non musical people to use then background type music lisencing will die out I think.
What about this : if i get the full commercial license from AVIA and the AI composes a song for me that totaly sounds like.. let´s say M.Jacksons "Triller" and i puplish it... I would get in trouble big time... Can i say then "Oh, you need to sue the makers of AVIA, they say i have full copyrights to this song."
No AI can garanty me songs that are not sounding like known songs or beats cause it was teached with those songs.
And i don´t get the point of people try´n to talk producers down caus "AI can do this, too".
I do music cause i love doing it.... i can express me mood, can integrate my personality in it. I have a personal style. Every AI needs "my music" (and musik of other artists) to learn what music is. So every AI will sound like music that already exists.
No, read the terms of AVIA, but I’m sure they’re face some sort of legal consequence
@@DJPain1 so they´re just not telling the truth. Does´nt matter, i would not use this thing. I make music cause i like to compose and arrange.... it´s fun to do this... not so much fun to watch an AI doing something like composing.
Personally I wonder why tech geeks are constantly trying to replace creative artists with all these software systems. Why is silicone valley trying to make real human talent worthless?
They’re sick
If they want to get rid of beatmakers then they also want to get rid of engineers and dj's that mix and play their tunes!
Not gonna happen captain!
I really hope that people start to do more research. All these AI songs you’ve been hearing have real beats made by real people. Not AI.
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At this point Ai is just confusing
Yeah I'm not too worried.. I love making music! not just beats.. Even if it all takes over I'm still going to make music no matter what
Its a war
she need to get a hit song without using a beat lets see how well that work out. They dont want to pay us for the time and effort put out to make a beats. Electricity bill is not going to pay it self.
Great info...#lvdrizzle
I mean if Drake had bothered to make one solid album in his entire career…
Yeah Drake is really struggling- no fans, no accolades, no influence on the music business
@@DJPain1 Sorry I failed to get my sarcasm across in that comment🤣 Love your content man and appreciate what you do
people that want to cut the cost of beats for themselves should learn to make it themselves... obviously they ain't on the graft of it yet want it free...jokas
Creativity is at a all time low. I think your missing the bigger picture of all of this. Producers and artists are going to have to tap into other ways to make music great again. Or they won’t be able to compete. If AI is the way then so be it. But it doesn’t have to be solely AI tho. Just this controversial situation shows how boring music is & how nothing is going on or exciting about music today.
What occupations won't A.I. have an impact on? A.I. has already taken numerous jobs. All this is making me think of what possible connection the dawn of A.I. might have to the bible book of Revelation, in regards to the antichrist and the beast and all that. It's not looking good. But keep on producing. At the very least you'll still have streaming royalties though it might not create the money flow one dreams of.
On another note though, I think this A.I. situtation might bring about a subculture of people who choose to band together rather than abandon their humanity to A.I.
Live bands would be one such group of people. Why can't producers and artists do the same? Toxic people have always been around and always will be. Let them have their A.I. pacifier since they love having crap in their mouth, pun intended.
Most of these artist is trash anyway! and producers will continue to do what they do and keep being creative, AI has to wait on trends in order reproduce, that shit will never Stop HipHop, and i’m pretty sure laws will be passed to circumvent this BS! I salute all creatives who respect and love the culture genuinely, all the rest can keep AI
Im better than AI😂
Basically everyone will be an "artist"
IF it's the case, the sword swings two ways. I can generate an AI voice to sing or rap over my beat. I'm not paying for a human just pushing air through her throat.
WHY ARE WE TRYING TO TAKE THE HUMAN AWAY FROM ART WHAT IS ART IF IT WAS JUST GENERATED BY AI NOT ART THATS FOR SURE
Al weirdo beats
factual
AI weirdo tweets
Dont get it 👍
Most human beats I hear are elementary, how simple to copy….if you create something unique, maybe it will have more value.
That’s what a lot of people say, but opinions of music and the processes of making it, are pretty subjective
I feel like this should encourage music producers to learn some type of instrument to compete with the future of A.I.. I still feel like no amount of Artificial Intelligence will mimic the swing and unpredictable nature of the late and Great J Dilla.