Industry Beatmakers Are Lying: Beat Placements Exposed
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- Опубліковано 7 чер 2024
- Industry producers are charging producers for placements with big artists. Don't fall for it though. Whether or not a so-called industry producers is catfishing you or is actually who they say they are, don't send them your money for beat placements before watching this video.
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00:00 - We Love Scammers
00:28 - How to Spot a Beat Placement Scam
01:18 - Producers Want Shortcuts to Success
02:51 - Paying Big Producers for Collabs
04:47 - What is a Beat Placement?
06:47 - Beat Placement Scam Exposed
10:58 - How Beat Placements Actually Work
13:05 - How Synch Placements Actually Work
15:22 - Industry Producers Lie Too
Selling beats online 2023
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That price is not bad 😔 I might have to catch you next time unfortunately but it's all good now I can dig 🎶
Do u still sell beats to the public more specifically if you do still sell beats to the public do you make custom orders because looking for certain type of beats that nobody really has in their store just more underground sounding stuff
@@VenomthaCursed yes I make custom beats, please email me business@djpain1.info
Hey man I appreciate you for doing a good service to the community. There has to be honest voices like yours online to give people knowledge and lead them down the right paths. Honest people get scammed because they don't always realize how crooked people can be, they aren't used to it. They need people around like you who are unbiased and honest about shit so can actually get the real help they need to grow in their businesses and music and shit. They need guys like you around man, calling out the scams.
@@DJPain1 great video, in middle of video that happened to me but from somebody I did music with for 10 years, sadly it started out like 2 points you made in beginning of video. I'm not sure if I'm more mad at him or myself
It’s wild to me that Pvlace is still being quoted when it was proving he stole from gunboi, multiple times. As well as falsely claiming 808 mafia to the point where TM88 himself addressed it.
Well that’s not really relevant to the question of whether or not he paid for a placement, but it does seem that the producer community will latch onto a single misunderstanding and then run with it for years and years
@@DJPain1 1). Its not just a misunderstanding, its stealing
2). Its only been like 3 months since then, not even a year
3). If, for example, everyone around you finds out that you were in a jail for, for example, stealing, most of them will always remember this no matter what else they think about you, thats just how world works most of the time, not only the producer community
4). All pvlace did was a goofy statement and he didnt even apologise. He actually made all videos except one on his channel hidden. He just wants to wait some time so everyone will just stop talking about it, thats an effective but unfair way to handle situations like this one
5). Its irrelevant to your question, but at least its relevant to pvlace, and i think its not bad that somebody speaks about it
@@user-rf5lf7cq5e the misunderstanding I’m referring to is that he paid for a placement. I have made a conscious choice not to speak on the Gunboi situation.
@@user-rf5lf7cq5e the reddit post from the video is from three years ago. i didn’t know gunboi nor this palace dude and just checked a couple of videos about how this whole drama thing unfolded. i too am making a conscious decision not to talk about it because whatever they got goin’ on, it feels off
@@DJPain1 Sorry, i didnt understand this. Everything is fine then, i also dont think that its necessary to always talk about this situation or not mention pvlace if needed, because when you mention pvlace somebody in the comments will say something about it anyway :)
It’s always “brotha” & “fam” & my favorite, “why would I lie bro”
I’ve gotten at least two emails within the past months from “popular producers” where they say the same things, “Become an in house producer”, “Just to keep it professional my fee is $200“. Like damn are they really struggling like that 😂
If they’re getting two producers a day just off the submission fee, they’re pulling on six figures off this scam
@@DJPain1 That’s insane.
Yeah i get them in my Instagram dm
Wtf
Looool 🤣
That was a damn good video. I received a few DM's like that " Hey fam, your music is hot, you have potential" bla bla bla. My favorite thing to do is ask them to send a phone number so I can face time or talk directly with them and send me their current location address so I can Google Earth it. That ends the conversation 100% of the time.
I love what you are doing for this lost community. Big love from Poland 🖤
thank you
Kurwa!
Hey Fam, Keep putting these bum ass scammers on blast.
is incredible how producers come to debate many things about the producer community what's right and wrong and see themselves scammed in the most ridiculous ways so much information you and many others provide and still believing shortcuts, by the way bro love the cat salute
Thank you 🐈
Industry producers are getting broke.. 😂 They underestimated the online game and now they are lost.
I think a lot of them just aren’t financially literate
Man, you one of The REALEST producer in that game, I respect you and watching mostly every vid from you. Appreciate you for your real honest man!!! Much Luv from Ukraine!🙏💜
I appreciate that
Producing is getting weird on the hip hop side. This is a real Super informative video.
Very weird
Thanks for shedding light on this, these scammers can't keep getting away with it.
Such a hero for sharing all this info with us 🗣🔥
Thanks, Pain I appreciate your time and sharing REAL experience.
My pleasure
It's true bro I'm not going to say their name but they try to scam me on Twitter that's why I don't look up to them no more.
Bro always coming with the hard but honest truth. Keep it up man🫡
Bruh, this is good HARD FACTS you're sharing! Thanks so much for the information shared!
Thank you for watching!
Really useful. Thank you
"and they wont internalize it because the dream is much more appealing than the reality"
that was profound and so incredibly true. that is.... modern day american society in a nutshell.
"american dream..." 🙃
Thank you 🙏 Pain love to hear artist looking out for artists. Much love !
Thanks for listening
great topic of discussion bro. Appreciate you sharing your insights
Thank you for watching
So true what you said bro always looking out for producers
I love the videos! Very useful information. Keep them coming bro!
Thanks! Will do!
Beautiful video, thank you bro. Didn't know there was so much money to be made from this music stuff. Jesus, what a time to be a producer.
Hello. I've been watching your videos for many years. I really like them. I did a lot of research before I decided to add my music, or send any music out. It does get tiring going around in circles. I stopped doing that when I saw that I could just do my own thing.
Bars! 📶"want shortcuts to success..."
Man thank you!! These are all facts!! Guys ask me and I say, "no, that is not how it works". If they are selling you who they are, RED FLAG!! You don't pay to play. Bottom line, if they are not offering you money for your work, 9.9 times out of 10, it's a hustle/scam/fakery!!
Thank you for making this video. I almost fell for this scam today! I got a similar email. His collab fee was 150. Thank you so much
Glad I could help
Great information as always , thank you 😊 🙏
My pleasure!
Thats Crazy bro
The sad part of these scams is that once you bite once, you're going to be labeled as a mark, and they'll know you're susceptible to putting a carrot in front of your face of success and milking you for money playing off your hopes and dreams.
Moral of the story is if it’s too good to be true it probably is!
There's been a big influx of similar Scam emails in my inbox lately and they all follow the same formula . They always claim to be a successful industry producer, they always throw a confidentiality notice on the email, and they always share a link to the genius page of the artists they're pretending to be.
Exactly, same format, easy to spot so no reason anybody should be falling for it
Good looking out sharing honest and important information. I feel blessed to make beats that commercial rappers would never give a shit about. I just want to make albums w/ rappers on their 90s type shit.
PAIN:))) Great POST One..
Great information 👍.
Thank you
This is what happens when people want to do Music.. and not music business. I once owned a studio and 97% of the people that came through didn’t know what Bmi or ascap is. They just record and upload no protection.. no split sheets, etc sad.. when we started music as young ones we all knew to read “All you need to know about the music business” lol I don’t think I ever finished that Bible fully but I definitely learned music business and that’s how I concluded that I’d rather be a writer and try to get placements or license to video games , movies, etc.. plenty of ways to make music business money..they can have the “industry” fakes and snakes .. constantly stealing from the no names to stay on top. Ahh man I have some stories to tell. But people please be careful out there and READ!! Learn contracts, etc
It’s a shame ppl have the time to do this to the uneducated/inexperienced. You’re doing great work especially with your level of transparency. I get these all the time all kinds of levels but definitely from UA-cam beats I’ve posted.
Well said
Everybody gets ripped off. I'm sure DJ pain got ripped once in 20 years
Pain 🔥💪🏾😤
Thank you for helping us. If it wasn’t for you I would believe these scams. I a guy from a radio station DMED me with compliments I said thank you just to be nice (and someone I worked with follows him So I assumed that thats how he found me). However, he asked me if I ever had a song on the radio and I said no and he told me which song I would like to get a spin and he said I’ll send you the price. I stopped replying. Aint no way a big radio station finna offer me a spin with the major labels pay them millions to play their artists. I googled his named and he supposedly he works at hot97 in nyc. It could be a fake profile too. Either way thanks and be careful yall.
Good video 🧙🏻♂️⚡️
Thanks 💯
2:01 perfetc example, yeah, nothing just comes for free
I get bombarded with a ton of DMs and emails promising the same thing small channels are the main targets. Stay away delete and block asap.
Absolutely
Great video, in middle of video that happened to me but from somebody I did music with for 10 years, sadly it started out like 2 points you made in beginning of video. I'm not sure if I'm more mad at him or myself. I feel like beating the shit out of him everyday to near death. But that won't help.
Thanks for posting this! Just a few weeks ago someone used almost the same scam template to get me to collaborate with a big west coast producer. They requested a submission fee so that we could get the ball rolling. I almost fell for it too. Dude wouldn't get on the phone to chat with me until money was sent. Red flags all over the place.
Glad you didn’t let them get you
Dee C?
@@paavoilves5416 🤣🤣
@@paavoilves5416 dee c also texted you bro?
Yeah u right pain its also about that the producer in the industry want all of us to settle for less i always felt that these producers want us internet producers to not be successful as them
I think there’s an element of that
@@DJPain1 like what?
Good Video, Thank For The Gems
Any time
@@DJPain1 Im At 48 Years Old Still Paying Attention To The Gems
RESPECT!!!
Broooo just the other day some big engineer/producer for a big artist hit me with that ish. But wants a payment because of the connections just to work together. What bs lol
Smfh
There’s certain artists doing these scams to upcoming artists too…. I got the tea on some major artists you would never expect
share it and help others who may fall victim
@@DJPain1 I personally never fell for it but have been approached for a scam by a major label, gang affiliated artist with over 12 million followers on Instagram. Dude even was my homies favorite rapper of all time.
At first I didn’t even believe it was actually him but he even sent a video. He offered me some fairy tale opportunity, I would only have to pay $500. He said he offered this opportunity to me because he thought my music was hard, but he didn’t even follow me on any social media platform.
I asked for a contract detailing the opportunity and specifying the agreement. I basically told him to ‘let our managers handle the rest’. Ofcourse he wouldn’t do a contract, he even got disrespectful.
I was toying with him a little and when I refused to pay $500 he started asking for lower amounts. Even asking ‘how much can you do?’. Honestly at that point I was just fucking around with him and kept the conversation going to bait him. He since then deleted most of the incriminating DM’s but I got screenshots of the whole thing.
Yup bro it's insane 🤣
That pop smoke beat from " for the night".
ua-cam.com/video/Q9pjm4cNsfc/v-deo.html
Is a stolen beat from an artist named Frvrfriday the song is called: Nana
ua-cam.com/video/ftKXp6oXROs/v-deo.html
Tyga also stole the beat.
Cash money ap had the nerves to put there water mark on the beat which was claiming stolen property 🤣
I could go on here😩🤣
Canary Julz is one of those scammers 🚩
If anybody has been scammed, I encourage them to make their own videos/Reddit posts/ etc but with actually PROOF, not simply words
i just asked them to verify through instagram dm's and never heard anything from them again lol
Sometimes they can though js
8:33 WAIT I GOT THAT SAME EMAIL FROM “The Dr. Luke”. BROOOOO
HAHAHA!!!!
Ya I got several emails like that recently, the first one I replied back until they asked for money, that's how you know lol like you said, back in the myspace days, I personally fell for a few scams, a sketchy service called (Taxi) and some fake a&r's, you live and learn though
Yikes I remember taxi
" I remember TAXI too !!
They were placing huge ads in Electronic Musician magazine & other music mags.
I knew that it was a Scam."
@@drwavenstein ya they got me and my homie for around 300 dollars back in 2007 lol, all for a sketchy review, with very little feedback, live and learn lol
Also when it comes to creating beats and promoting yourself I feel a lot of beatmakers get extremely discouraged with the marketing/promotion side of things. A lot of beatmakers in general are introverts and "networking" takes a lot of effort from these people. So maybe they release a few beat tapes that nobody listens to and stop making beats because they feel that nobody gives a fuck. Well heres the thing.. ANYTHING that you practice and get good enough WILL produce the results you want. It's just about sticking with it. All it takes is for 1 popular person to cosign your shit and thats it. Never forget that.
16:25 Pain starts purring
🐈
Wild Wild West music industry! Needs to be Control by Who???? Ty Pain for all you do for us.
Thank you 🙏🏽
dam when i initially saw that Turbo interviewe i thought he was requesting trackouts of beats, not freakin loops😱
Bro you can hear your cat purring 😂while your educating us🙏🏿 thank you for all these gems brother ✊🏿
She was loud af
@@DJPain1 that’s a happy kittie fam 🙏🏿
Wow why the hell would anyone pay for beat placements or pay to work with another producer...Basic business if you are approached for either one or the other then it should be them offering you money clearly you must have talent for them to contact you in the first place and in my book that has to be worth something ..That is crazy....Keep them coming Mr Pain love your video's bro 🙂
If anybody approaches you and is asking for money, everything they say is a lie and disrespectful period
@@DJPain1 true
@@DJPain1 one word EXPLOITATION mate.
I always say hey fam as an intro
sorry
I just do my own thing and been doing it
Crazy I done got 10 of these type of emails, from saweetie to Kodak black to ice spice like they have it for every artist it’s ridiculous, sad world we live in.
Sad and stupid
i've had this from major producers and managers: tweektune, will major etc. It is such a shame. They hype up unknown producers just to ruin their dream.
someone tried doing this to me as timbaland lmao + thank u for looking out for the community pain we appreciate you.
Yessir!!
💯💯💯
Pain 💁🏽♀️
DJ Pain is inflicting us with some beautiful truths.
Got 2 emails like this, one to my email address I share publicly, and another to my private email address by mistake, them thinking it was another online producer. So yeah, a scammer pretending to be industry producers.
They’re working so hard
Got same mail askin me if i want to submit 1 - 3 beats for mike dimes for 150$, when I said no, he offered me to send just 1 beat for 50$ cuz they worked on tight schedule and he didnt want me to miss the deadline.
Lmao they’re shameless
I didn’t even know this is even a thing or even knew about this side of the industry. Sounds like a lot of hassle tbh.
Not really
Man this week 2 "Record Labels" reached out asking for a deposit😂😅
Hairline lost placement too.🤣
This happened to me with “The Dr. Luke”, I knew it it was sketchy but I felt like there was no point in avoiding it. $40 to someone who probably isn’t “The Dr. Luke” 😭
one of these clowns emailed me about a k KOKE UK beat with the same words smh fortunately I’ve been thru that a long time ago . if u want it for more reference I’m happy to send : thanks for spreading the awareness !!
What cracked me up the most is a line something like “K koke is my friend he will love this beat” . The scam would have made more sense if he said let’s split points via finders fee but he wanted to charge me to show him. Hahaha. U just said he’s gonna love it , show him and let’s make a deal everyone’s happy with . They never responded
Smh it’s bad out here
That sounds like Dame Taylor. Interscope Records.
I’ve been getting the same emails for the longest while but the email used was fishy. I was like why would a industry producer use a gmail email to for opportunities
My trust in Pain 1 is increasing.
I hate that word FAM.
😂
Isn't mastering typically covered under the artists record deal? Like I can almost guarantee that the artist is being charged for the finished mastering process, so why would a producer have to pay it when it's standard in a record deal for the artist to pay it, with maybe a portion of it being paid by the record label?
One time Lil B tried to scam me. He hit me up for a beat, I made it for him (FOR FREE), and then he asked me to pay him to use it lol.
Damn, that's a shame
Damn!! This happened to my producer yesterday, it is insane how similar the language is!!
We checked out his credits on Spotify and they are all there, is it likely the scammer is pretending to be this producer or this producer is just broke??
How did they ask for the money to be sent?
@@DJPain1 he didn’t get that far, he just said there was a placement fee and my producer then questioned him knowing something wasn’t right and he hasn’t replied since
I didn’t get an email; but last week I did get a DM from someone posing as a DJ from Hot 97 offering to play my music on the radio for a fee…which was hilarious cause my songs are instrumentals; and me being from NY I’ve never heard hot 97 play just beats 😂
and it's a federal crime
What camera are you using bro?
g7
Wait wait wait you're telling me they'll pay me to use my beat that I worked on creating??? Crazy
Instagram is the worst for it.
I got one of those scam emails a couple months ago and thought “This seems like one of scams Pain be talking about” lol. He even had the nerve to ask me for my stems
Wow stems?!
@@DJPain1 Yup. Cause apparently Rich The Kid would be in studio later that day, so he needed my stems ASAP. Plus my “placement fee” to be sent via CashApp
I get lots of those messages on my mails
bricksdamenace joined the chat
Swaggertown records is run by a kid Jake in my hometown, bro really scamming so many people everyday its crazy. I made a loop for toosii and he emailed me under the credits, it was the song i made the loop for lmao
😮
👍👍
just got a email wit the same scam lol smh
yep, it's EVERYWHERE
Lmao ive always gotten this, "yo your samples are dope, lets work" then ask me for money to give me "connections".....i didnt even ask for the collab!!
Yep, scam
Just had a verified artist who was followed by other verified artists (some of which were signed to Strange Music), he almost got me. Wanted a certain fee for a slot on his tour, was offering to fly me out for any date i wanted. Lots of red flags in the interaction for sure, but him being verified and followed by other legit artists definitely made me wonder if it was real.
😅😅 supposedly Warner hmu for a distro deal but the email is spelled Werner in it lol asking 200 for a distribution deal lmao
😅😂😂😂
GIVE THESE FAKES THE PAIN!!!!!!!!!!!! DJ PAIN 1 slaughters the fake placement scammers!
yessir!
Bruh, the way you calmly crack jokes about those scammer emails is Epic.
More coming soon 🙏🏽
MORAL OF THE STORY FOLKS..IS JUST SIMPLY LEARNING HOW TO MAKE BEATS FOR YOURSELVES... ESPECIALLY IF YOU ARE ARTIST ASWELL ...TRUST ME .. LEARNING THIS TOOL WILL KEEP YOU IN YOUR OWN LANE!!!!!!
Definitely not the moral of MY story. I love making beats for others and doing this for a job.
14:50 That nursing degree comment aged horribly 😩
Aged? This video is a few days ago
Hey dj pain I got a scam sync license email I'd like to send u to make others aware they look legit not