(Again) The reason why there were glitchy enemies from the Choomba is because the Choomba spawns Coalbits which glitch out when fought by the bros when not inhaled.
It's interesting that Bowser can't fight himself, because I can't imagine they'd specifically write code to prevent it from happening as it should never happen in gameplay anyway. I'd theorise that the player Bowser uses the same resources that the enemy Bowser uses and only one of that resource can exist at any one time, hence why it crashes.
My guess is that there's a race condition happening, where both player bowser and enemy bowser are trying to access the same block of memory/code at once
The naplock vs bros almost looks like the attack was designed with fighting them in mind. The projectiles being blocks seems like it was meant to be a hint you could jump to break them. They could rwally look like generic rocks and it would still look fine against bowser.
Same here, I found Skawo after looking through TCRF (one of my favourite pastimes) and finding this video in the BiS article, from there I kept looking round the channel and I've grown addicted to the videos haha.
they probably programmed them like that on purpose because they were meant to be encounterable by the bros at some point in development, the dark cloud enemy countering itself when hitting Bowser's shell from the back however...
Judging by the unused behavior for some enemies. It's possible a lot of the areas in game had a different geological design that would make it possible for certain "bowser enemies" to be fought by Mario and Luigi before being changed.
In the Bowser vs. Bowsers body enemies section, it reveals an interesting thing about some of the attacks. Some of them are coded to target an actual character, making them work pretty well with bowser. Others just attack where mario and luigi WOULD be, which works fine with mario and luigi, but makes it so attacks like the speedy pep-up straight up misses bowser.
The enemies that the choomba generates are not invisible if you fight in the tunnel (under cavi cape) where this enemy spawns (you would need to use a code to walk through walls to access with Mario and Luigi). I think that problem of invisible enemies is due to a problem when forcing a choomba to spawn in other place
I was gonna ask about the reupload, but the description already answered it, so nevermind. I will say, though, that one small enemy that can be fought by Bowser is the Sneed. Sometimes, when a Flifit fires a Sneed at you, there's a chance that the Sneed will stick around instead of immediately planting itself or running away.
What I really wish is that bowser could find the guy you get the last star cure from (forgot his name) and he would reveal himself as the one guiding him through the chakroads, and he would allow you to enter the depths of your mind to refight the bosses in stronger forms, THAT would be the way to fight bowser’s EX bosses, and god would it be great if you could
3:15 Trashure can in fact be fought as the bros, yet the dark version (that one in the video) cannot, I thought I should clarify that. Also some small enemies can be fought as bowser when a battle with a bigger enemy includes one, such as a dark fawful-mole spawning in a battle with a regular mechchawful outside the castle
12:37 "Bowseritis is quite powerful yes, it takes a bit of time to recover from it, I'm prescibing ten days worth of antibiotics, take them every day, with food preferably" I guess he does know everything. Quite a doctor huh?
Regular Mechawfuls can be fought as Mario and Luigi. You can fight Dark Mawful Moles as Bowser. It rarely shows up when you fight a Mechawful and they behave like the small enemies in this video.
The fact that some things work perfectly and others don't makes me think that they were probably coding every overworld enemy to be fought by either bowser or the bros. I assume due to time constraints or feasibility they decided to block off some area's so the bros can't fight some bowser enemies and that bowser instantly beats bros overworld enemies
having just played the origional version of the game... some of these little guys can be encountered along with bigger ones, i know for a fact that bouser can fight the dark monty moles in the final area of the game as ads with mechafuls, they often run away though
Hey it's me, Italian translation guy. Seeing the Trashure reminded me of a weird thing that happens with Piranha Plant's Palutena's Guidance in Italian Ultimate. As you know it consists of listing various PP types appeared in the series... well turns out Trashure and Piranha Plorp's name are stored near each other in BIS's data so the translators fucked up and name Trashure among the Piranha Plants
Awiibo managed to get all of the Bowser bosses working as Mario & Luigi, as well as Bowser vs. himself. The game either softlocks or crashes when Mario & Luigi try to attack most of the bosses. The game crashes once Starlow tells the player to grab onto her during the Bowser vs. Bowser fight.
@jeepercreepers9 bowser has Punching and Shell, It'd likelu be full of Bowser needing to time when to Duck/Counter with Mario and Luigi's Jumps, Hammers, a few of their Special Moves, like Spin Pipe, Green Shell, Or even needing to use Goomba to punch into Mario or Luigi to distract them on Falling Star.
Trashures can be fought by the Bros, as Dimble Wood can be accessed when outside of bowser’s body. It’s only the dark trashures that can’t be fought by them.
On a random note... I used to think that Chakron was wearing a weird nipple hat, until I realized those are supposed to be more of his tentacles that he's holding over his head.
Interesting how many enemies were programmed in mind with the ability to counter with m and l before realizing that the final area cuts off several unique enemies because of peach's castle design. The chaboomba's though, that's the definitely the strangest of the pack. You think they would have finished his animations instead of outright removing him considering they went and finished the bowser enemies for him as if they had plans to eject them out through the pipe yard for a star cure or something
From all the enemies that get crushed by bowser you can fight only once the metal mawful moles. There is on battle outside of peaches castle. Approaching one of those green fawful robots and a metal mawful mole spawns as well.
4:50 i feel like if they wherent fought by bowser it would made a reference to first mario rpg where some bowser troops will run away with the quote "feels terrified by the prescence of bowser"
i know this video is like 1 year old, but you can fight the tiny enemies if you're underleveled as bowser and most of them have some impossible attacks to avoid as bowser.
11:20 that's the game loading the frames for the dark star's animations. The game seems to somehow misplace them in the battle field, idk how that works.
@@Skawo wait, does this mean that the giant battles are a modified version of the standard battle system? if so, have you tried seeing if you can load regular battle monsters into giant battles?
So. I wonder. Seeing how the napblocks are the most functional ones. Would it be possible to encounter them if M&L go inside Peach´s castle in the same entrance only Bowser can get in via climbing in ball form, if you use a moon jump hack? There doesn´t seem to be anything that would prevent them from doing so if you get up there.
@@Skawo Oh c´mon, show us messing around inside that part of Peach´s castle where only Bowser was supposed to enter with M&L using moon hack. I only have the physical cartridge. :^D
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I don't know why, but Wisdurm shrinking out of existence and then resetting the game is hilarious to me
*The game thought the non-poof is illegal*
"I'm gonna do what's called a pro gamer move"
*Shrinks indefinitely to break reality*
(Again) The reason why there were glitchy enemies from the Choomba is because the Choomba spawns Coalbits which glitch out when fought by the bros when not inhaled.
3:24 Mario and Luigi CAN fight Trashures. That is a DARK Trashure. *They* can not be fought by Mario and Luigi
Xandog thank you, I was hoping someone would mention this.
Same goes for Mechawful and Dark Mechawful
🤓
@@BeanutPutter01typical
It's interesting that Bowser can't fight himself, because I can't imagine they'd specifically write code to prevent it from happening as it should never happen in gameplay anyway. I'd theorise that the player Bowser uses the same resources that the enemy Bowser uses and only one of that resource can exist at any one time, hence why it crashes.
My guess is that there's a race condition happening, where both player bowser and enemy bowser are trying to access the same block of memory/code at once
Comment again from previous upload.
The Mechawfuls attack eventually ends but takes a century and a half to finish.
Scrap that it takes a millennium
To think all it literally takes to destroy the universe in a paradox...
...is Bowser entering one of the pipes leading into his body!
I always wondered what would happen if he did that
@@arcanejack The Game doesn't even let you
@@yaboipktendo Did we mean literally do it in the game? We did not. Did we mean what would happen if Bowser did this storywise? We did.
@@insertnamehere5193 I meant it Like If you force the Game to load Bowser inside of himself
@@yaboipktendo Did I not understand your question? I did.
The naplock vs bros almost looks like the attack was designed with fighting them in mind. The projectiles being blocks seems like it was meant to be a hint you could jump to break them. They could rwally look like generic rocks and it would still look fine against bowser.
In the remake, the bubble is green to, like it was made for Luigi
That's just one of Naplock's attacks in the original DS game, too. It's meant to be avoided because it causes the Sick effect.
So nostalgic. The original upload was one of the first Skawo vids I watched.
Same here, I found Skawo after looking through TCRF (one of my favourite pastimes) and finding this video in the BiS article, from there I kept looking round the channel and I've grown addicted to the videos haha.
I dont know what was the first time I watched
Or it was this(original upload)
Or was an episode of PP:CS where toads insult mario to death
No wonder this video seemed familiar. I remember I saw it a while back but I wasn't sure if it was on this channel or a different one.
yeah this video popped in my recommended and somehow I went from there and just kept watching him
I remenbered watching the older (and audio broken) version as a kid. Never thought those enemies wasn't used at all...
4:28 You really pounded the “B” outta him.
In think that glitched B promt is used in Panters in Time as a placeholder object.
The Bros-exclusive enemies probably think Bowser is Luigi because he stands in Luigi's spot in battle
Also he's more green than red.
2:40 I am actually bewildered that they considered this to be a counter.
Yeah, that's definitely the coolest one.
they probably programmed them like that on purpose because they were meant to be encounterable by the bros at some point in development, the dark cloud enemy countering itself when hitting Bowser's shell from the back however...
Now that i think about it, it makes sense that mario can dodge the naplocks attacks like that
0:00 The Yoshi Cookies are getting revenge on the Mario Bros. for eating them in the previous game
Judging by the unused behavior for some enemies. It's possible a lot of the areas in game had a different geological design that would make it possible for certain "bowser enemies" to be fought by Mario and Luigi before being changed.
Some of the enemies bowser crushes can be caught in a battle if you run into a big opponent that why some physics work fine with them
Especially the metal mawful mole I encountered it with bowser just by battling normally
3:43 Nice enough to use Mario as your human shield Luigi ( beside the Increased defense)
Mario's Damage Taken: +100%
Luigi's Damage Taken: -100%
(11:09) Further proof that Bowser is Luigi.
11:37 Even more proof
0:01 Is this anything noteworthy?
In the Bowser vs. Bowsers body enemies section, it reveals an interesting thing about some of the attacks. Some of them are coded to target an actual character, making them work pretty well with bowser. Others just attack where mario and luigi WOULD be, which works fine with mario and luigi, but makes it so attacks like the speedy pep-up straight up misses bowser.
you forgot step 5. RULE THE WORLD
in the description o3o
it's neat that you reuploaded it without the small audio glitch, thanks
The enemies that the choomba generates are not invisible if you fight in the tunnel (under cavi cape) where this enemy spawns (you would need to use a code to walk through walls to access with Mario and Luigi).
I think that problem of invisible enemies is due to a problem when forcing a choomba to spawn in other place
I was gonna ask about the reupload, but the description already answered it, so nevermind.
I will say, though, that one small enemy that can be fought by Bowser is the Sneed. Sometimes, when a Flifit fires a Sneed at you, there's a chance that the Sneed will stick around instead of immediately planting itself or running away.
Man you can really say words huh
What about Eellogofusciouhipoppokunurious
@@pichuperez9037 If that's actually a word, I have no idea how it's pronounced.
@@Anafyral666 Yeah, I talk a lot. It's pretty much my thing right there.
@@metaloverlord99 Look it up I'm not joking.
What I really wish is that bowser could find the guy you get the last star cure from (forgot his name) and he would reveal himself as the one guiding him through the chakroads, and he would allow you to enter the depths of your mind to refight the bosses in stronger forms, THAT would be the way to fight bowser’s EX bosses, and god would it be great if you could
That sounds really cool
Dark fawfull montys CAN be fought with bowser
In 1 specific room with a green fawfull bot, these enemies always spawn besides the bot
Even when bowser
Like I said in the video, I wasn't sure of the specifics which enemies could be encountered this way, so I just included them all.
11:38 Does that actually kills/damages mario and luigi, even tough they weren't in battle?
7:02 (insert the lion sleeps tonight here)
7:39 That position is the only one that allows one of the energy balls to reach Bowser's hitbox (a green one on its right side).
It’s 12:20 AM go get a full week of sleep please
actually it's 3:19 AM, imma go sleep now
11:50
Bowser uses Excellent Punch.
Dark Star dodges
Missed! + Dodged!
3:15 Trashure can in fact be fought as the bros, yet the dark version (that one in the video) cannot, I thought I should clarify that.
Also some small enemies can be fought as bowser when a battle with a bigger enemy includes one, such as a dark fawful-mole spawning in a battle with a regular mechchawful outside the castle
Later: The Game Theorists uploaded a new video: Bowser is actually Luigi?!?!
12:37 "Bowseritis is quite powerful yes, it takes a bit of time to recover from it, I'm prescibing ten days worth of antibiotics, take them every day, with food preferably"
I guess he does know everything. Quite a doctor huh?
Bowseritis is a very dangerous disease
Regular Mechawfuls can be fought as Mario and Luigi.
You can fight Dark Mawful Moles as Bowser. It rarely shows up when you fight a Mechawful and they behave like the small enemies in this video.
The fact that some things work perfectly and others don't makes me think that they were probably coding every overworld enemy to be fought by either bowser or the bros. I assume due to time constraints or feasibility they decided to block off some area's so the bros can't fight some bowser enemies and that bowser instantly beats bros overworld enemies
F in the chat for the masterpiece.
F for the hundreds of comments the original upload had that now no longer exist.
10:06 bowser exits the kitchen for a bit and misses the target with his punch who is also far away from him.
2:04 you can use The tunnel (if Its finished) under peaches castle to Get to These enemies with mario and luigi
This might only apply to the remake, but it's blocked off by rocks.
Harrison plushiegamer no look i dont even have The remake, at The very end of The game it isint blocked from Stones- you can walk throu it
@@Rafflekake yeah its basically the " Fast travel method for Bowser actually.
But both can go through it.
3:44 Luigi seems to be able to dodge canon balls, it’s just really difficult
having just played the origional version of the game... some of these little guys can be encountered along with bigger ones, i know for a fact that bouser can fight the dark monty moles in the final area of the game as ads with mechafuls, they often run away though
2:14 Luigi traveled into the void
were gonna ignore the fact that he does 2000+ damage
and i started to think is Midbus was going to be used when Bowser become chubbier
Hey it's me, Italian translation guy. Seeing the Trashure reminded me of a weird thing that happens with Piranha Plant's Palutena's Guidance in Italian Ultimate. As you know it consists of listing various PP types appeared in the series... well turns out Trashure and Piranha Plorp's name are stored near each other in BIS's data so the translators fucked up and name Trashure among the Piranha Plants
Whoa
Really? That's hilarious
@@linus6718 Yep. Unless it was changed with the more recent updates... I'll check
Hehehe. Trashure is the best type of Pirahna Plant.
3:44 Luigi takes multiple cannonballs to the face: the sequel
if there’s an flying enemy you can hurt it with the minions attacks
Awiibo managed to get all of the Bowser bosses working as Mario & Luigi, as well as Bowser vs. himself. The game either softlocks or crashes when Mario & Luigi try to attack most of the bosses. The game crashes once Starlow tells the player to grab onto her during the Bowser vs. Bowser fight.
Someone please someone thats good at coding, learn how to make a romhack that lets bowser fight bowser x, just no crashing, and let it use attacks.
Or that oeste use right some enemies that Mario, Luigi, & Bowser can’t fight
Id love someone to make a Rom Hack where They make a Mario and Luigi Boss fight for Bowser.
I could probably do it if I had the time but I don't know how you'd dodge the attacks as Bowser
@jeepercreepers9 bowser has Punching and Shell, It'd likelu be full of Bowser needing to time when to Duck/Counter with Mario and Luigi's Jumps, Hammers, a few of their Special Moves, like Spin Pipe, Green Shell, Or even needing to use Goomba to punch into Mario or Luigi to distract them on Falling Star.
@@quilavalover8232 Was referring to the original comment, I'm not skilled enough to make an original bossfight
4:30 the random B button 😂
*I also heard an random shy guy sound for no reason...*
If giant enemies can be little, this begs the question:
Can we fight normal enemies as giant bowser?
Trashures can be fought by the Bros, as Dimble Wood can be accessed when outside of bowser’s body. It’s only the dark trashures that can’t be fought by them.
Finally, the most inexplicably rewatchable video without the uncomfortable silence!
I wonder why UA-cam recommends me the most random videos whenever I click on one of your TCRF videos.
9:48 lol bowser hates those bloopers...
They probably brought back memories from Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door.
11:37 Somewhere in the distance, the screams of two italian plumbers can be heard for some reason.
Or where just shadow clones.
On a random note...
I used to think that Chakron was wearing a weird nipple hat, until I realized those are supposed to be more of his tentacles that he's holding over his head.
I thought that it was some weird hood made of his skin.
Can you fight chugoomba in the 3rd remake, I might be wrong but I thought I remembered facing that enemy with the bros in the ds
Interesting how many enemies were programmed in mind with the ability to counter with m and l before realizing that the final area cuts off several unique enemies because of peach's castle design.
The chaboomba's though, that's the definitely the strangest of the pack. You think they would have finished his animations instead of outright removing him considering they went and finished the bowser enemies for him as if they had plans to eject them out through the pipe yard for a star cure or something
I wish he used Goomba storm for enemies that were resistant to hos regular attacks
I loved this this game so much as a kid I beat it easily over 10 times.
12:37 BOWSERITIS!!!
From all the enemies that get crushed by bowser you can fight only once the metal mawful moles. There is on battle outside of peaches castle. Approaching one of those green fawful robots and a metal mawful mole spawns as well.
honestly i thought there would be more unused enemies than just squares
The grey Monty mole can be fought alongside a fawful bot
Luigi is yelling Mario is funny when I'm listening to the Character Select music in Mario Super Sluggers!
i like for the first few ones luigi just takes 0 damage
Bowser is fighting his insides now...*sigh* ok
4:50 i feel like if they wherent fought by bowser it would made a reference to first mario rpg where some bowser troops will run away with the quote "feels terrified by the prescence of bowser"
Can Trasures not be fought by the brothers? I thought they could encounter the normal versions in Dimble Woods.
The Dark ones can't.
Sneers can be fought by Bowser (or at least in the remake) by failing the Fliffit's seed attack and it sometimes won't grow into a Fliffit.
*Sneed (dang autocorrect)
Ah, i knew i remembered this video. Great to have it back with fixed audio.
What would happen if bowser fought the shroobs?
i know this video is like 1 year old, but you can fight the tiny enemies if you're underleveled as bowser and most of them have some impossible attacks to avoid as bowser.
Hey the dark mole, magic Koopa are attackable because they are found in other enemy encounters mixed in
11:20 that's the game loading the frames for the dark star's animations. The game seems to somehow misplace them in the battle field, idk how that works.
i still have downloaded the broken audio video
I think if you go into the area where the choobas are as M and L, the attack might work.
please give the codes to fight with the enemies or make a second part with mario and luigi vs bowser bosses
“They aren’t so tough!”
*Proceeds to one hit kill opening game enemies on max level-*
finally, a version with good audio
4:56 the metal moles in peaches castle can be found in one specific enemy
cannon : Luigi goes to hell to free mario : 2:01
interesting... I wasnt sure until this video but it looks like this game uses spritesheets.
Thanks, i can finaly watch this without another yt tab!
I like how in the Choombas fight Luigi goes to the backrooms for a split second
What's with the bomb at the top right at 3:13?
You can say whatever you want about broken audio, but I think you just reuploaded this due to current relevance.
No, I literally just got like three comments about it and decided, 'sigh, let's just reupload that'
Ok. Quick question, how fucked up can UA-cam be? Do you regret your decision of becoming a UA-camr?
@@sharpack I don't
6:30 have you tried using vacuum?
Oh nice, the audio in the original was annoying so I'm glad to get it fixed!
Still really interesting video btw.
Specifically I believe the Metal Mawful Moles can be encountered alongside Mechawfuls as Bowser
Maybe you already awnsered this ,but can bowser fight the dark star core (you know ,the fusion with fawful at the end)
He can, but the parts don't load in. I've shown this in the video.
@@Skawo oh sorry , i didn't saw it , i just stopped the video since there was "nothing" near the end ( ･_･).
2:00 That cry was funny and delayed. xD
3:56 Luigi is chilling or what !?! XD
Thanks for this video I love this game and learning more about it!
Luigi wins by jumping into the stratosphere
wait, why are the enemies from the giant battles functionally regular enemy types?? that makes literally no sense
Alpha Dream is insane?
Who knows.
@@Skawo wait, does this mean that the giant battles are a modified version of the standard battle system? if so, have you tried seeing if you can load regular battle monsters into giant battles?
like, if they use the same functions.... would it be possible for them to be loaded in the other direction?
@@Badsy_the_Edgecat Possibly. I haven't tried.
Madlads with a gladdash! Holy spaceballs Starman what is all this. . .? Except the fact the four first enemies are test dummies.
4:43 Was that in tune on purpose?
5:55 The 2nd time countering is the only way to win.
12:41 Bowseritis
Bowser casually strolls up and does 3068 damage
2:13 luigi goes places
So. I wonder. Seeing how the napblocks are the most functional ones. Would it be possible to encounter them if M&L go inside Peach´s castle in the same entrance only Bowser can get in via climbing in ball form, if you use a moon jump hack? There doesn´t seem to be anything that would prevent them from doing so if you get up there.
Yes, if you use cheats, of course you can go almost anywhere.
@@Skawo Can you show us? :3
@@endlessedgar4576 I mean, they just work the same on the overworld.
@@Skawo Oh c´mon, show us messing around inside that part of Peach´s castle where only Bowser was supposed to enter with M&L using moon hack. I only have the physical cartridge. :^D
It may be Mandela Effect but I feel like I remember some of these unused bosses
What if you used a special attack like goomba storm on the enemies bowser misses with his normal attacks? Would that work?
Yes, it does.