(Again) The reason why there were glitchy enemies from the Choomba is because the Choomba spawns Coalbits which glitch out when fought by the bros when not inhaled.
It's interesting that Bowser can't fight himself, because I can't imagine they'd specifically write code to prevent it from happening as it should never happen in gameplay anyway. I'd theorise that the player Bowser uses the same resources that the enemy Bowser uses and only one of that resource can exist at any one time, hence why it crashes.
My guess is that there's a race condition happening, where both player bowser and enemy bowser are trying to access the same block of memory/code at once
The naplock vs bros almost looks like the attack was designed with fighting them in mind. The projectiles being blocks seems like it was meant to be a hint you could jump to break them. They could rwally look like generic rocks and it would still look fine against bowser.
Same here, I found Skawo after looking through TCRF (one of my favourite pastimes) and finding this video in the BiS article, from there I kept looking round the channel and I've grown addicted to the videos haha.
Judging by the unused behavior for some enemies. It's possible a lot of the areas in game had a different geological design that would make it possible for certain "bowser enemies" to be fought by Mario and Luigi before being changed.
What I really wish is that bowser could find the guy you get the last star cure from (forgot his name) and he would reveal himself as the one guiding him through the chakroads, and he would allow you to enter the depths of your mind to refight the bosses in stronger forms, THAT would be the way to fight bowser’s EX bosses, and god would it be great if you could
The enemies that the choomba generates are not invisible if you fight in the tunnel (under cavi cape) where this enemy spawns (you would need to use a code to walk through walls to access with Mario and Luigi). I think that problem of invisible enemies is due to a problem when forcing a choomba to spawn in other place
I was gonna ask about the reupload, but the description already answered it, so nevermind. I will say, though, that one small enemy that can be fought by Bowser is the Sneed. Sometimes, when a Flifit fires a Sneed at you, there's a chance that the Sneed will stick around instead of immediately planting itself or running away.
The fact that some things work perfectly and others don't makes me think that they were probably coding every overworld enemy to be fought by either bowser or the bros. I assume due to time constraints or feasibility they decided to block off some area's so the bros can't fight some bowser enemies and that bowser instantly beats bros overworld enemies
Regular Mechawfuls can be fought as Mario and Luigi. You can fight Dark Mawful Moles as Bowser. It rarely shows up when you fight a Mechawful and they behave like the small enemies in this video.
3:15 Trashure can in fact be fought as the bros, yet the dark version (that one in the video) cannot, I thought I should clarify that. Also some small enemies can be fought as bowser when a battle with a bigger enemy includes one, such as a dark fawful-mole spawning in a battle with a regular mechchawful outside the castle
having just played the origional version of the game... some of these little guys can be encountered along with bigger ones, i know for a fact that bouser can fight the dark monty moles in the final area of the game as ads with mechafuls, they often run away though
Trashures can be fought by the Bros, as Dimble Wood can be accessed when outside of bowser’s body. It’s only the dark trashures that can’t be fought by them.
From all the enemies that get crushed by bowser you can fight only once the metal mawful moles. There is on battle outside of peaches castle. Approaching one of those green fawful robots and a metal mawful mole spawns as well.
Hey it's me, Italian translation guy. Seeing the Trashure reminded me of a weird thing that happens with Piranha Plant's Palutena's Guidance in Italian Ultimate. As you know it consists of listing various PP types appeared in the series... well turns out Trashure and Piranha Plorp's name are stored near each other in BIS's data so the translators fucked up and name Trashure among the Piranha Plants
12:37 "Bowseritis is quite powerful yes, it takes a bit of time to recover from it, I'm prescibing ten days worth of antibiotics, take them every day, with food preferably" I guess he does know everything. Quite a doctor huh?
Awiibo managed to get all of the Bowser bosses working as Mario & Luigi, as well as Bowser vs. himself. The game either softlocks or crashes when Mario & Luigi try to attack most of the bosses. The game crashes once Starlow tells the player to grab onto her during the Bowser vs. Bowser fight.
i know this video is like 1 year old, but you can fight the tiny enemies if you're underleveled as bowser and most of them have some impossible attacks to avoid as bowser.
4:50 i feel like if they wherent fought by bowser it would made a reference to first mario rpg where some bowser troops will run away with the quote "feels terrified by the prescence of bowser"
On a random note... I used to think that Chakron was wearing a weird nipple hat, until I realized those are supposed to be more of his tentacles that he's holding over his head.
11:20 that's the game loading the frames for the dark star's animations. The game seems to somehow misplace them in the battle field, idk how that works.
==========My descripition========= =======Mario Bros.======== 0:01 Name: 0×00 helth: 8hp? Summary: cannot dodge attack. 0:43 Name: 0×01 Summary: Same thing as 0×00 but has no shadows. 0:57 Name: 0×02 Summary: Same as 0×00 and 0×01, but it has a tiny shadow and n e v e r attacks. 1:15 Name: 0×03 Summary: same as 0×02 but more defense and target is at diferrent spot. (Finally no more boxes) 1:32 Name: midbus food entity. Summary: works fine, but it has some graphical errors. 1:42 Name: Choombas Attack: blow clouds to indicate what brother they're going to hit. Summary: The game becomes confused after defeated. But its not a softlock. 2:33 Name: Naplock Summary: Cannot be normally fought by the bros. Attacks can be dodged with jumps. 3:15 Name: Trashure Summary: Cannot be fought normally by the bros. Attacks can be dodged with jumps. (But the cannonballs fly too quickly) 3:57 Name: Mechawfuls Summary: Glitches if encountered by the bros. Its star laser attacks softlock the game. The punching attack functions as intended. 4:27 Name: giant battle enemies Summary: it can be spawned, but most of those crash the game. =========Bowser========= 4:40 Name: overworld enemies. Summary: most of them get crushed by bowser while some just flee. 5:12 Name: fawful magikoopa thingy Summary: for some reason, it can be inhaled by bowser 5:31 Name: penguin thing Summary: It actually tries to attack. The only overworld enemy to do so, but it softlocks the game. 5:40 Name: blooper thingy found inside bowser Summary: it kinda works well. But the problem is: you cant attack them with normal attacks. 6:01 Name: f i s h. Summary: its attacks work too but you cant stop his rolling attack by countering, so it proceeds to hit bowser. 6:28 Name: Goombule Summary: its attacks are impossible to dodge 6:36 Name: spiny like creature Summary: its tackle attack is impossible to dodge, but the dropping attack works. 6:44 Name: Firey like creature Summary: you cant jump so you cant dodge. 6:51 Name: cannon thingy Summary: you cant dodge its attacks. 7:09 Name: Meat like thingy Summary: The punch counter attack dosent reach far, because theres no coding to you not getting hit when countered. 7:22 Name: poison plant. Summary: *bowser = luigi* can dodge attacks. 7:41 Name: sun thingy Summary: they seem to attack you randomly. You cant counter not hit back. 8:08 Name: Elite Goombules Summary: aside from uncounterable attacks, its not so powerful anymore.
6:20 Aww man, It's a shame that Bowser can't inhale Tenderlings, it would be awesome if he can inhale them but instead of fighting the bros inside him like all the others enemies he can inhale, they die at the moment you inhale them and Bowser can recover HP from them when he inhales them because you know, Tenderlings are meat and we know in this game Bowser loves meat.
![[TCRF] Mario & Luigi Superstar Saga Demo - Unused Enemies, Behaviours and Items](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/b3_FPbqkWmk/mqdefault.jpg)
(Again) The reason why there were glitchy enemies from the Choomba is because the Choomba spawns Coalbits which glitch out when fought by the bros when not inhaled.
3:24 Mario and Luigi CAN fight Trashures. That is a DARK Trashure. *They* can not be fought by Mario and Luigi
Xandog thank you, I was hoping someone would mention this.
Same goes for Mechawful and Dark Mechawful
🤓
@@BeanutPutter01typical
I don't know why, but Wisdurm shrinking out of existence and then resetting the game is hilarious to me
*The game thought the non-poof is illegal*
To think all it literally takes to destroy the universe in a paradox...
...is Bowser entering one of the pipes leading into his body!
I always wondered what would happen if he did that
@@arcanejack The Game doesn't even let you
@@yaboipktendo Did we mean literally do it in the game? We did not. Did we mean what would happen if Bowser did this storywise? We did.
@@insertnamehere5193 I meant it Like If you force the Game to load Bowser inside of himself
@@yaboipktendo Did I not understand your question? I did.
Comment again from previous upload.
The Mechawfuls attack eventually ends but takes a century and a half to finish.
Scrap that it takes a millennium
It's interesting that Bowser can't fight himself, because I can't imagine they'd specifically write code to prevent it from happening as it should never happen in gameplay anyway. I'd theorise that the player Bowser uses the same resources that the enemy Bowser uses and only one of that resource can exist at any one time, hence why it crashes.
My guess is that there's a race condition happening, where both player bowser and enemy bowser are trying to access the same block of memory/code at once
The naplock vs bros almost looks like the attack was designed with fighting them in mind. The projectiles being blocks seems like it was meant to be a hint you could jump to break them. They could rwally look like generic rocks and it would still look fine against bowser.
In the remake, the bubble is green to, like it was made for Luigi
That's just one of Naplock's attacks in the original DS game, too. It's meant to be avoided because it causes the Sick effect.
So nostalgic. The original upload was one of the first Skawo vids I watched.
Same here, I found Skawo after looking through TCRF (one of my favourite pastimes) and finding this video in the BiS article, from there I kept looking round the channel and I've grown addicted to the videos haha.
I dont know what was the first time I watched
Or it was this(original upload)
Or was an episode of PP:CS where toads insult mario to death
No wonder this video seemed familiar. I remember I saw it a while back but I wasn't sure if it was on this channel or a different one.
yeah this video popped in my recommended and somehow I went from there and just kept watching him
I remenbered watching the older (and audio broken) version as a kid. Never thought those enemies wasn't used at all...
The Bros-exclusive enemies probably think Bowser is Luigi because he stands in Luigi's spot in battle
Some of the enemies bowser crushes can be caught in a battle if you run into a big opponent that why some physics work fine with them
Especially the metal mawful mole I encountered it with bowser just by battling normally
Now that i think about it, it makes sense that mario can dodge the naplocks attacks like that
Dark fawfull montys CAN be fought with bowser
In 1 specific room with a green fawfull bot, these enemies always spawn besides the bot
Even when bowser
Like I said in the video, I wasn't sure of the specifics which enemies could be encountered this way, so I just included them all.
(11:09) Further proof that Bowser is Luigi.
11:37 Even more proof
0:01 Is this anything noteworthy?
Judging by the unused behavior for some enemies. It's possible a lot of the areas in game had a different geological design that would make it possible for certain "bowser enemies" to be fought by Mario and Luigi before being changed.
3:43 Nice enough to use Mario as your human shield Luigi ( beside the Increased defense)
0:00 The Yoshi Cookies are getting revenge on the Mario Bros. for eating them in the previous game
Mario's Damage Taken: +100%
Luigi's Damage Taken: -100%
What I really wish is that bowser could find the guy you get the last star cure from (forgot his name) and he would reveal himself as the one guiding him through the chakroads, and he would allow you to enter the depths of your mind to refight the bosses in stronger forms, THAT would be the way to fight bowser’s EX bosses, and god would it be great if you could
That sounds really cool
4:28 You really pounded the “B” outta him.
In think that glitched B promt is used in Panters in Time as a placeholder object.
The enemies that the choomba generates are not invisible if you fight in the tunnel (under cavi cape) where this enemy spawns (you would need to use a code to walk through walls to access with Mario and Luigi).
I think that problem of invisible enemies is due to a problem when forcing a choomba to spawn in other place
you forgot step 5. RULE THE WORLD
in the description o3o
it's neat that you reuploaded it without the small audio glitch, thanks
11:38 Does that actually kills/damages mario and luigi, even tough they weren't in battle?
It’s 12:20 AM go get a full week of sleep please
actually it's 3:19 AM, imma go sleep now
I was gonna ask about the reupload, but the description already answered it, so nevermind.
I will say, though, that one small enemy that can be fought by Bowser is the Sneed. Sometimes, when a Flifit fires a Sneed at you, there's a chance that the Sneed will stick around instead of immediately planting itself or running away.
Man you can really say words huh
What about Eellogofusciouhipoppokunurious
@@pichuperez9037 If that's actually a word, I have no idea how it's pronounced.
@@Anafyral666 Yeah, I talk a lot. It's pretty much my thing right there.
@@metaloverlord99 Look it up I'm not joking.
The fact that some things work perfectly and others don't makes me think that they were probably coding every overworld enemy to be fought by either bowser or the bros. I assume due to time constraints or feasibility they decided to block off some area's so the bros can't fight some bowser enemies and that bowser instantly beats bros overworld enemies
Regular Mechawfuls can be fought as Mario and Luigi.
You can fight Dark Mawful Moles as Bowser. It rarely shows up when you fight a Mechawful and they behave like the small enemies in this video.
Later: The Game Theorists uploaded a new video: Bowser is actually Luigi?!?!
3:15 Trashure can in fact be fought as the bros, yet the dark version (that one in the video) cannot, I thought I should clarify that.
Also some small enemies can be fought as bowser when a battle with a bigger enemy includes one, such as a dark fawful-mole spawning in a battle with a regular mechchawful outside the castle
7:39 That position is the only one that allows one of the energy balls to reach Bowser's hitbox (a green one on its right side).
having just played the origional version of the game... some of these little guys can be encountered along with bigger ones, i know for a fact that bouser can fight the dark monty moles in the final area of the game as ads with mechafuls, they often run away though
11:50
Bowser uses Excellent Punch.
Dark Star dodges
Missed! + Dodged!
were gonna ignore the fact that he does 2000+ damage
and i started to think is Midbus was going to be used when Bowser become chubbier
2:40 I am actually bewildered that they considered this to be a counter.
Yeah, that's definitely the coolest one.
Someone please someone thats good at coding, learn how to make a romhack that lets bowser fight bowser x, just no crashing, and let it use attacks.
Or that oeste use right some enemies that Mario, Luigi, & Bowser can’t fight
F in the chat for the masterpiece.
F for the hundreds of comments the original upload had that now no longer exist.
Trashures can be fought by the Bros, as Dimble Wood can be accessed when outside of bowser’s body. It’s only the dark trashures that can’t be fought by them.
7:02 (insert the lion sleeps tonight here)
2:04 you can use The tunnel (if Its finished) under peaches castle to Get to These enemies with mario and luigi
This might only apply to the remake, but it's blocked off by rocks.
Harrison plushiegamer no look i dont even have The remake, at The very end of The game it isint blocked from Stones- you can walk throu it
@@Rafflekake yeah its basically the " Fast travel method for Bowser actually.
But both can go through it.
3:44 Luigi seems to be able to dodge canon balls, it’s just really difficult
I wonder why UA-cam recommends me the most random videos whenever I click on one of your TCRF videos.
From all the enemies that get crushed by bowser you can fight only once the metal mawful moles. There is on battle outside of peaches castle. Approaching one of those green fawful robots and a metal mawful mole spawns as well.
Finally, the most inexplicably rewatchable video without the uncomfortable silence!
10:06 bowser exits the kitchen for a bit and misses the target with his punch who is also far away from him.
Hey it's me, Italian translation guy. Seeing the Trashure reminded me of a weird thing that happens with Piranha Plant's Palutena's Guidance in Italian Ultimate. As you know it consists of listing various PP types appeared in the series... well turns out Trashure and Piranha Plorp's name are stored near each other in BIS's data so the translators fucked up and name Trashure among the Piranha Plants
Whoa
Really? That's hilarious
@@linus6718 Yep. Unless it was changed with the more recent updates... I'll check
Hehehe. Trashure is the best type of Pirahna Plant.
I loved this this game so much as a kid I beat it easily over 10 times.
12:37 "Bowseritis is quite powerful yes, it takes a bit of time to recover from it, I'm prescibing ten days worth of antibiotics, take them every day, with food preferably"
I guess he does know everything. Quite a doctor huh?
if there’s an flying enemy you can hurt it with the minions attacks
i like for the first few ones luigi just takes 0 damage
Sneers can be fought by Bowser (or at least in the remake) by failing the Fliffit's seed attack and it sometimes won't grow into a Fliffit.
*Sneed (dang autocorrect)
Awiibo managed to get all of the Bowser bosses working as Mario & Luigi, as well as Bowser vs. himself. The game either softlocks or crashes when Mario & Luigi try to attack most of the bosses. The game crashes once Starlow tells the player to grab onto her during the Bowser vs. Bowser fight.
2:14 Luigi traveled into the void
The grey Monty mole can be fought alongside a fawful bot
Ah, i knew i remembered this video. Great to have it back with fixed audio.
I wish he used Goomba storm for enemies that were resistant to hos regular attacks
9:48 lol bowser hates those bloopers...
They probably brought back memories from Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door.
Thanks, i can finaly watch this without another yt tab!
11:37 Somewhere in the distance, the screams of two italian plumbers can be heard for some reason.
Or where just shadow clones.
12:37 BOWSERITIS!!!
I think if you go into the area where the choobas are as M and L, the attack might work.
4:30 the random B button 😂
*I also heard an random shy guy sound for no reason...*
Luigi is yelling Mario is funny when I'm listening to the Character Select music in Mario Super Sluggers!
Hey the dark mole, magic Koopa are attackable because they are found in other enemy encounters mixed in
If giant enemies can be little, this begs the question:
Can we fight normal enemies as giant bowser?
i know this video is like 1 year old, but you can fight the tiny enemies if you're underleveled as bowser and most of them have some impossible attacks to avoid as bowser.
3:44 Luigi takes multiple cannonballs to the face: the sequel
finally, a version with good audio
Specifically I believe the Metal Mawful Moles can be encountered alongside Mechawfuls as Bowser
Bowser is fighting his insides now...*sigh* ok
Thanks for this video I love this game and learning more about it!
Oh nice, the audio in the original was annoying so I'm glad to get it fixed!
Still really interesting video btw.
interesting... I wasnt sure until this video but it looks like this game uses spritesheets.
Can you fight chugoomba in the 3rd remake, I might be wrong but I thought I remembered facing that enemy with the bros in the ds
4:50 i feel like if they wherent fought by bowser it would made a reference to first mario rpg where some bowser troops will run away with the quote "feels terrified by the prescence of bowser"
On a random note...
I used to think that Chakron was wearing a weird nipple hat, until I realized those are supposed to be more of his tentacles that he's holding over his head.
I thought that it was some weird hood made of his skin.
I like how in the Choombas fight Luigi goes to the backrooms for a split second
Pretty sure you can hit flying enemies with fire goombas with bowser
2:00 That cry was funny and delayed. xD
3:56 Luigi is chilling or what !?! XD
Can Trasures not be fought by the brothers? I thought they could encounter the normal versions in Dimble Woods.
The Dark ones can't.
“They aren’t so tough!”
*Proceeds to one hit kill opening game enemies on max level-*
1:56 Luigi dips after Mario dies
Bowser what have you done ?? You have change the futur ! You created a time paradox !
Madlads with a gladdash! Holy spaceballs Starman what is all this. . .? Except the fact the four first enemies are test dummies.
i still have downloaded the broken audio video
4:56 the metal moles in peaches castle can be found in one specific enemy
Lore of [TCRF] Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story - Unused Enemies and Enemy Behaviours momentum 100
some of those smaller enemies can be encountered by bowser if they spawn alongside bigger enemies
They don't appear in battle.
You can say whatever you want about broken audio, but I think you just reuploaded this due to current relevance.
No, I literally just got like three comments about it and decided, 'sigh, let's just reupload that'
Ok. Quick question, how fucked up can UA-cam be? Do you regret your decision of becoming a UA-camr?
@@sharpack I don't
11:20 that's the game loading the frames for the dark star's animations. The game seems to somehow misplace them in the battle field, idk how that works.
THIS IS MY FAVORITE GAME
Bowser: Now I know where the Mario brothers are!
*I N S I D E M E*
Bowser casually strolls up and does 3068 damage
i love videos like that so much :D
Luigis defense would be op at super mario bros
I am alercic to bowsers, too.... it,s a shame I,m a big fan of them XD
What's interesting the new bis game you can actually fight most if not all of these guys and its fixed
For the bros
How do you know
2:13 luigi goes places
Doesn’t change the fact this game is still vore
it is but its still my favorite game of all time
Great video 🎉
==========My descripition=========
=======Mario Bros.========
0:01
Name: 0×00
helth: 8hp?
Summary: cannot dodge attack.
0:43
Name: 0×01
Summary: Same thing as 0×00 but has no shadows.
0:57
Name: 0×02
Summary: Same as 0×00 and 0×01, but it has a tiny shadow and n e v e r attacks.
1:15
Name: 0×03
Summary: same as 0×02 but more defense and target is at diferrent spot.
(Finally no more boxes)
1:32
Name: midbus food entity.
Summary: works fine, but it has some graphical errors.
1:42
Name: Choombas
Attack: blow clouds to indicate what brother they're going to hit.
Summary: The game becomes confused after defeated. But its not a softlock.
2:33
Name: Naplock
Summary: Cannot be normally fought by the bros. Attacks can be dodged with jumps.
3:15
Name: Trashure
Summary: Cannot be fought normally by the bros. Attacks can be dodged with jumps. (But the cannonballs fly too quickly)
3:57
Name: Mechawfuls
Summary: Glitches if encountered by the bros. Its star laser attacks softlock the game. The punching attack functions as intended.
4:27
Name: giant battle enemies
Summary: it can be spawned, but most of those crash the game.
=========Bowser=========
4:40
Name: overworld enemies.
Summary: most of them get crushed by bowser while some just flee.
5:12
Name: fawful magikoopa thingy
Summary: for some reason, it can be inhaled by bowser
5:31
Name: penguin thing
Summary: It actually tries to attack. The only overworld enemy to do so, but it softlocks the game.
5:40
Name: blooper thingy found inside bowser
Summary: it kinda works well. But the problem is: you cant attack them with normal attacks.
6:01
Name: f i s h.
Summary: its attacks work too but you cant stop his rolling attack by countering, so it proceeds to hit bowser.
6:28
Name: Goombule
Summary: its attacks are impossible to dodge
6:36
Name: spiny like creature
Summary: its tackle attack is impossible to dodge, but the dropping attack works.
6:44
Name: Firey like creature
Summary: you cant jump so you cant dodge.
6:51
Name: cannon thingy
Summary: you cant dodge its attacks.
7:09
Name: Meat like thingy
Summary: The punch counter attack dosent reach far, because theres no coding to you not getting hit when countered.
7:22
Name: poison plant.
Summary: *bowser = luigi* can dodge attacks.
7:41
Name: sun thingy
Summary: they seem to attack you randomly. You cant counter not hit back.
8:08
Name: Elite Goombules
Summary: aside from uncounterable attacks, its not so powerful anymore.
6:20 Aww man, It's a shame that Bowser can't inhale Tenderlings, it would be awesome if he can inhale them but instead of fighting the bros inside him like all the others enemies he can inhale, they die at the moment you inhale them and Bowser can recover HP from them when he inhales them because you know, Tenderlings are meat and we know in this game Bowser loves meat.
If you think about it, that would also be cannibalism, since Tenderlings come from Bowser's flab