“agatha sucked out his powers so he cant fly rn” noooo bro, why would he leave his car there?? its prolly his parents car 😭😭 its that simple sometimes lmao
Yeah. And he's still pretends to be "William Kaplan" in front of his parents so they wouldn't know William really died. He couldn't appear on their doorstep flying cause Wiliam don't do magic. This pretending will take a long time even after the founding of the Young Avengers. Even after finding Tommy.
Okay I'm so glad someone actually said something about this already because who is going to leave their car just because they have the ability to fly, like what?
It explains why she argued that it's Coven TWO not Coven True, because it was just the two of them, her and Nicky. It also makes sense why she says she was the only survivor, because Nicky died...
No actually Wanda and Billy alter existing realities. Still an OP power. Franklin Richards, Mad Jim Jaspers (I believe), and the Molecule man...those mofos create new realities.
@@trembledust6819Altering existing realities is still changing them into a new reality. Wanda and Billy are still able to create a brand new ones, and are more powerful than the other characters you mentioned
You know something I never thought until now, with each trial, Billy was the one to activate them: the card on the mantle, play the record, picking up the ouija board, putting down the first tarot card, and dropping his book back in the body bag, he was subconciously controlling the trials like Wanda making edits and changes to each version of West View
He said "i wish Lilia was here" and that's when they found the way into the trial. He said "without a green which we are back at square one" and then they were back at the beginning
Seeing things from Agatha’s POV back in ep 2 and seeing her reaction when she realised the scam she’s been pulling for centuries is actually real had me screaming lmao
I dont think she knew he was Billy she just knew he had powers similar to the Scarlett witch and thought he was just another powerful witch. She was suspicious of him but said that she didn't know 100% he was Wanda's Billy until he Attacked her.
Why do people keep forgetting Wanda's power and Billy's power is *reality* warping, not illusions; THE SHIT THEY MAKE IS *REAL* DUDE!!! Why is that so hard for so many thousands of people to understand!?!😂😂
Did you guys notice when Billy said "coven two" at the end, it was a callback to Agatha and Jen arguing about the song's lyrics in one of the earlier episodes? Jen said "It's coven TRUE" and Agatha said "no, it's coven TWO". She was probably getting mad af that the others were arguing with her about the shit that she literally wrote but she couldn't school them because she had to keep the lie going 😂 But that being said, the "coven two" bit is lowkey sweet because it was about her and her kid and they didn't need anyone else. God damn, this show is layered!
Look the show was good but the hell do you mean once again? Acolyte, Echo, She-Hulk, Book of Bobofet, Kenobi all got canceled how the hell is that being proven wrong?
from what i heard, she was killing witches with her son because she hoped the bodies would give her more time with him. the day they didn’t kill the witches was the same day rio took him.
Bro I think that Agatha actually couldn’t control when she took Alice’s magic. I think that she was deprived of magic for so long that she couldn’t stop it and also the trial was to punish Agatha so when Alice died that was the first time she was forced to face the consequences of her actions. This show is so good. It was so intricately thought out and scripted. It’s genius.
The writing!!! So good! Did you all notice that Agatha listed the traits of the coven? She told Nicky she could not “heal” him, “protect” him or “divine” when Rio would come for him.
Sharon says in the third episode that underneath Westview is the failed transit system. They weren't in an alternate dimension, Billy just redressed the old transit tunnels into the road (just like Wanda redressed Westview into her sitcoms worlds). It's just rewriting what is there to what you want it to be. But they were not in an alternate dimension. That's why in ep 7, when Lilia and Jen were walking around and part of it was in the trials, like the yellow glowing roots, and they came across the subway tunnels and could have left the trial it's because he just wasn't using that part of the tunnel. So they really could have just walked out at that point.
Theory is that Nicky is an off-spring of Death. And killing the witches was a payment to maintain Death’s sacred balance. Hence, he got taken the moment they stopped killing.
i dont know if that work cuz they killed multiple witches for 1 soul? i think it was just cuz thats how agatha maintains her power and youth. and we dont know if death only needs A soul or if she needs THE soul so we dont know if you could keep death away from someone by giving her some other soul
Uh, No. Jac Schaeffer was asked whether Agatha was killing witches as payment to or distraction for Death and she said Death doesn't work like that when she's doing her job. Death is like nature. There's a balance. It's not all about bodies. She's just present where there's bodies and Agatha let her combine work and play. Until they "had beef" that is. :-)
Idk why people asking or saying can't he fly. He drove to Westview in the beginning, so what now he is going to leave his car? Yeah I know Wanda left her car, but she was fleeing the authorities Billy isn't. Plus Billy has a family to go back to. He couldn't just come back and his car be gone.
I think that Agatha is like an addict, she loves the power and will do anything to keep it and get more. So even if she hurts people that she kind of likes it gets washed over by the feeling
@@elizabethp1772 in the comics Agatha was more of a teacher to Wanda when she became a ghost, I guess now she is Billy teacher. But in the comic Dr.Strange was Billy teacher will see what the MCU does.
would be like having the most supportive and sassy auntie by your side, Billy about to go out with his bf and Agatha be like "remember, foreplay makes the playground smoother, also don't forget to get ur lube, did you douche?" 🤣
The funniest part is she makes a deal with Rio that when she dies Rio would not be there, and Rio is the one ushering souls to the other side, so she basically made SURE that she wouldn't go to the other side and remain a ghost. She planned that ahead of time, she is insane.
I absolutely loved the scene of Billy helping Tommy find a new body, and that it was in someone who had no family who would miss him. That along with the mind blowing reveal that HE created the Witch’s Road completely on accident shows how INSANELY overpowered he is, as the son of the Scarlet Witch should be. I still hate that Lillia, Alice and even Sharon died and weren’t somehow saved in the end, and I hate that Billy was indirectly responsible for their deaths, but I do love that he memorialized them and will from now on do his best to never repeat his mistakes and end up like Wanda. Still he managed to save Jennifer Kale and help get her power back.
I find it so interesting that with Wanda and Billy, they aren't making illusions. They're legitimately rewriting reality. So the road is real, but only after Billy made it. Same with Wanda's little world. It was real, it could just be undone. Imagine having that much power at your disposal off RIP!!! They are absolutely insane power houses.
Imagine another coven of witches finds out about the road being in Agatha’s basement and sings the ballad to continue the road in the next film orits at least mentioned
They were under Westview the entire time! That's why we saw the abandoned subway and also why Jen climbed out through the dirt in the end. Billy created the road and it basically ran underneath the town.
I find that interesting, cause if the "road" that Billy conjures is now a real separate dimension, and he only closed the door. Does that mean other coven of witches will now be able to access it if they chant the ballad? Since the road itself has some form of sentience and its own free will thanks to Billy's magic.
It's not that deep. What he did was just a localised, less powerful hex. Wanda's he was over a whole town, could warp clothes, colour and even the minds of those inside. Billy's was limited to Agatha's basement or perhaps a section of the town's underground (hence they went in a circle around and ended up back in said basement) and could only warp the location and clothes of those in it, not their minds.
The physical location of the road was actually under Westview in the defunct subway tunnels. Sharon mentioned it in episode one and Jen said it again in episode seven. I think the spell on Agatha had her imagining everything was because it was a weaker spell that was only there to keep Agatha contained. Wanda and Billy were/are so powerful they can create, bend and alter reality.
Agatha is evil. It's something people keep missing and trying to justify her actions because she's entertaining/main character. She can be entertaining and "Likeable" but actually evil. She is capable of empathy when she chooses, but she has two settings either she cares or you're just disposable, there is no in-between. Billy reminded her of her son and in some ways herself which makes her care...sometimes. Outside of that she is self-serving. She killed witches for her own gain, her son dying was because he was sick and living on borrowed time. I see some fans theorizing and trying to justify things, but the show is literally telling us this is Agatha All Along. It's who she is, manipulative but broken puppet master. People assume she killed the witches to keep her son healthy or keep RIO busy, but that isn't why she killed witches, and even stated she can't heal him and doesn't know when Rio will come back. She does it because everything in her mind is kill or be killed. To be the most powerful and manipulate the weak minded to get her way.
@intothefrayyo I think her current plan is to help Billy so he helps her, since he's powerful enough to effect natural order of things. She probably wants to fully and unconditionally gain his trust and show him that sometimes you have to break the rules to get what he wants so he'll do same for her in gratitude. The problem is that while extremely smart, she has to fight her instincts of kill or be killed. She likely made the plan but was also just willing to let him die at first chance and actively has to snap out of that. The conversation between her and Rio probably gave her the idea, seeing that Rio needed it to be his will to do things. Agatha also laid out the scheme of becoming a ghost with her deal that when her time comes, Rio won't come back for her or have to see her face again. Agatha is playing a long game but probably continuously goes back and forth of caring about Billy to a degree and seeing him as disposable means to an end.
@intothefrayyo Agreed Agatha is absolutely a serial killer, and I don't understand how some are mistaking what we see her do and what she says. She's pretty up front about it.
I agrée, but at the same time it’s killing two birds with one stone. She was definitely killing witches to save her son and to gain power. But she’s still evil
Agatha learned from the rest of her coven she was gonna use a protection circle like Alice she was utilizing a potion of water just like Jen she took Lily’s advice when she told her to duck.
@@FiresCollide 🤣🤣, right? I keep forgetting ma'am was a whole serial killer with an M.O and everything like if this was a crime novel or show we would call her the ballad killer or something...also funny that the ep 1 is a whole crime show where some Jane Doe is found murdered, imagine all the criminal investigators who found the dead witches she killed!!!
They were in the closed transit system reimagined as Billy's Hex. The clue was when Jen saw the train in episode 7. That was the outer edge of the Hex. The tunnels Jen and Lilia were walking through were literally subway tunnels.
25:19 Folks have missed a few details because they came so early in the show. They said that Alice's mom's version of the song was a cover not the original dong because the song had been passed throughout the ages amongst the witches but the song was created by Nicholas and Agatha. Agatha went from using her son to using his song to avoid deaths embrace which is why shes ashamed of the truth in how he died and why shes afraid to join him. She doesn't want to be with death for taking him and she doesn't want him to hate her.
She said she couldnt control it with Alice becuase she is an addict. She has been an addict for centuries, and Alice held no sentimental value that would encourage Agatha to stop when it feels so amazing. She was only able to stop with Billy because the affection she feels for him because he reminds her of Nicky is greater than her addiction.
yea I saw a theory that Agatha was killing witches like a sacrifice to Death to keep from taking her son. I don't think that is the case cause if Agatha really believed that then she would of faught tooth and nail to take some witches' powers when Nicky just ran off. Another one is that Agatha was killing to build up her strength to keep Nicky safe. who knows. Cool theories though.
@@trembledust6819I think most of those theories only exist to ignore the fact that Agatha is a villain. She kills, because she likes it. Because let's think logically. Death is collecting bodies across the entirety of existence but because Agatha kills a couple witches every few days she's distracted from Nicholas? Death gave Agatha time out of love. That time expired. That's the scar and the job she did she was discussing episode 4. But seriously, every chance Agatha has ever had to kill other witches, with and without Nicholas existing yet or not, she's done it. There's no grand purpose, she murders witches, it's what she does
and one thing I noticed after this season finale that explains a lot of her roll in WandaVision and her persistence on trying to find out how did Wanda create a whole new reality, I think it's because she wanted to learn that too and try to manifest physically her son Nick so they could be together again. Basically, she was just jealous ate Wanda for being able to make all of that to feel better and she never could, cus her powers only served the purpose of take life and mischief ... This show was amazing at portraying Agatha's nuances and layers. She is indeed a great character and I really hope Marvel Television shows follow the same rout as WandaVision and AAA has walked through. Also, I love you guys. Keep up doing these videos and I've been following yell for several years now, it's so much fun. Sending love from Brazil
Yeah remember when the twins asked wanda to bring sparky back to life, agatha was like "you can do that?" And when wanda says we cant bring them back no matter how sad it makes us, she shakes her head and cries a bit, think that was her genuine feelings But even if she absorbs wandas powers would she be able to do reality warping like her? cuz here she took energy from other witches and she didnt get their abilities so...
'This show is crazy bro!' at the end of episode 8 hahaha. It's super creative! I loved, loved the fight between Agatha and Rio / Death, the 'death by 1,000 cuts' moment was crazy, as well as Billy throwing death through that house and showing up in his badass fit! Also the reveal that it was Agatha all along who knew makes sense, like she's 400+ years old so it's not her first time at the rodeo.
My theory is that Agatha started killing witches to have death distracted from taking Agatha’s son, because the one day Agatha didn’t killed was the day death came for Nicholas, and I guess she started having an addiction to get power and probably reason why she continued doing it, but idk it’s just my theary
Remember when Sharon mentioned in Episode 2 that she expected them to be in their failed subway system? Maybe Billy used that space to manifest the road. Also, remember in Ep.7 when Jen had the chance to take a subway exit to leave the Witch's Road?
Can’t distract death with one body. Death exists throughout the whole multiverse collecting technically an infinite amount of bodies everyday. She was just being nice.
@@Zaacdrums Except it wasn't just one body, she was killing covens one after another. Maybe it was a deal, just like how they had a deal throughout the show for Billy's soul. Like "I give you more bodies in exchange for more time"
I think death can't kill people outright because it violates the natural order of things, every living thing is given its own timespan on earth. Death could kill agatha because agathas time was up a long time ago she was borrowing time from other witches and power. But Billy was unique since he was constructed from something outside the frame of life. Not only that, but his unnatural soul also was inhibiting a already dead body. That's how I see it anyways.
Death technically could have killed Billy but his soul would have escaped her grasp. She doesn't like to over exert herself because it draws the attention of her siblings Eternity, Entropy, and Infinity. She has smited entire universes in the comics when given "permission".
@@mostcreative3680 Yeah, that. It's not that she literally can't kill him, but more that she doesn't want to because she knows he can just find a new body. She's a universal constant, so she's one of the strongest beings, but Billy is a glitch in the system she can't get rid of unless he goes with her willingly.
@@mostcreative3680Life is her twin sister and she will not like it either if Death encroached her territory (she is little known but she is actually a Marvel character as well)
Guys, this series was a surprise for me, I hope they win some award because it is an excellent production despite the small budget that is visible and a great series. 🖤🔥
@tmac731 Oh wow, you can predict the future, right? If the penguin wins an award, it will be due to his merit and deserved, but don't doubt that Agatha will be able to win one, because Agatha's production is super hard and well done, all with very little budget, the two series have DIFFERENT CONCEPTS, my love.
Agatha and Death didn't really make sense.. The Salem 7 easily could've dispatched all characters.. Outside of Wiccan. Also.. how are all the Salem 7 dead.. they had ones that could fly 🫤
@@intothefrayyo Gravity inversion is a bitch, especially for flying types. They probably thought "Oh, were going up? Big Deal, we can Fly!" Then they hit the spikes. They died looking "down" and wondering why their blood was flowing the wrong way.....
@@intothefrayyoonly 2 could fly. The owl and cicada, and changing into animal form probably takes more than 0 seconds to do. And is probably extremely difficult to do when caught off guard by falling up Literally every instance of magic we've been shown, there's casting time. Be it witchcraft (Agatha) or sorcery (Dr. Strange)
@@intothefrayyo I can see why between Agatha and Death. Deadpool and Thanos are ones who have killed many, and that's a big part of why Death is attracted to them. Agatha is another that killed many, and Lady Death loves her for it.
Why does everyone ask why he didn’t fly away? He’s a teenager with parents who would probably be pretty pissed if he just left the car in another city!
I think she let Jen live because she was a midwife. A person who helps children come into the world, and what’s Agatha’s one thing she loves more than anything? Her son. Her son who would have died in childbirth if not for death averting her eyes. How many people did Jen save from the same fate Agatha went through who didn’t have deaths favor?
"Coven two", "If one be gone we carry on", "I hold death's hand in mine" Are all lyrics Agatha made up that are related to Nicky im gonna cry. Especially the second one bc Nicky was literally holding Rio's hand. ToT
The Hex and Billy’s road are not illusions. They are real, just temporary. They were underneath Westview but not wandering around like Agatha was. The only illusion is the one Wanda left Agatha in.
Agatha will stay a ghost (for now atleast) because Rio doesnt like ghosts, so Agatha got her wish... Rio wont come after her as long as she remains a ghost
A note about the 19:07: I think the key to fully understands Agatha’s character is have in mind that she’s a villain, she’s not a anti hero or hero, she’s a villain and do anything to survive, she was selfish with everyone but her kid, so we need stop try to see a redemption arc cause it’s never coming, she wanted rio to take Billy but he was smart and played with the one thing that makes Agatha vulnerable that is her son, she was kinda projecting him on Billy so she saved him just because of it. She CAN REALLY control her powers she wanted to kill Alice and lied about can’t controlled
@@yuriconnoisseursmm debatable because billy didn't do any of that on purpose while Agatha does. Agatha knew billy made the road and never said until the end.
@@yuriconnoisseurs yea but she suspected. she still knew the road wasn't real to begin with and plan on killing the witches while billy never knew until the end, so I don't see him as a villain.
Billy is so overpowered he literally subconsciously conjured his own pocket dimension without even trying to. I’d love to see the adventures of Billy and ghost Agatha.
Maybe you're just using the word illusion differently than I'm used to, but Billy is actually warping reality to make the witch's road, not just making an illusion of it. Billy is crazy OP in the comics.
49:09 no wanda literally altered reality just like billy did, monica goes over this when they realise her 80's clothes are still her bulletproof clothes just altered But we do get multiple hints they were underground the entire time 1. In ep7 the way out that jen finds is a subway station the same thing sharon said she would expect to see down there 2. When agatha finally escapes the road she comes up from her basement 3. Jen literally crawls out of the ground
Guys, what Wanda did in Westview wasn't an illusion, it was real. Agatha said it in the finale of Wandavision, it's called chaos magic, she can literally change and reshape reality, and Billy too.
5:55 Yeah, in the comics, Thanos was in love with Death, so he tried to impress her by snapping half of life in the universe to prove how much he loved her, but she didn't love him 😂
@@ArtzInfinity.Not to mention upsetting the natural balance of the universe, she probably thought of him as a foolish creature thinking she would be impressed by his evil act.
I have a feeling we haven't seen the last of Rio / Lady Death , now Tommy is back too, something gotta give , Billy can't keep making people alive again and cheating Death her mortals as the balance of the universe dictates. Rio isn't evil, she just is, and though sometimes very abrasive and mean at times she doesn't lie. Billy don't let her go to the Living Tribunal or the One Above All to complain about you if you keep doing this.
@@sese8976 no one is stronger than the One Above All , the literal God and creator of the Marvel Universe, indeed the Omniverse, it's just that he/she rarely intervenes, usually leaving such matters to his/her second in command and his/her first creation The Living Tribunal whose job is to oversee the natural and cosmic flow of the multiverse,and making sure all balance is always maintained ,but nothing or no one can stop him/her once a decision or judgement is made. The creation is never greater than the Creator.
@@dansby37 we are talking about death not the one above all wican is stronger then death and prob the living tribunal he is destined to destroy the marvel unmivers 8th incantation where franklin will become the new galactus
Now that we have Wiccan and Speed, I think we have enough for Young Avengers series! They need to hurry the F up because at this rate they're gonna be middle aged Avengers 😂
I think Agatha became a ghost because she told Death: "When I die I don't want to see your face", There's no alternative to Death, therefore she has to become a Ghost and not be claimed by her, Like Agatha said: "Calculated Risk" and Why at the 1st Episode Rio said, take my tower and Agatha was like, You know i'll die if I do that, so yeah Roshi was on Point, Kiss of Death..
I literally can't wait to see more of Billy's journey, especially with Agatha in his pocket, she can actually train him and teach him more witchcraft, plus help him with his reality warping
@@jeremiahscott2032 It was another clue about it being not real and was a construct by Billy. It wasn't an alternate dimension, nor a different universe, or even a mind game. The ENTIRE Witch's Road was manifested under the ground, evidently bordering a subway station.
I personally thought that cause Rio said your case was special that meant that in order for Nicky to live Agatha would have to bring Rio souls and bodies in exchange for prolonging Nicks life since he was a stillborn for whom even death tried to cheat the rules and thats why Agatha spent all that time killing innocent witches but after Rio reclaims Nicky's soul Agatha falls into a deep depression and grief that she goes off the rails and just decides to go along with power scaling ( just like Wanda lost control of her magick ij her grief and sorrow) ( also i think Katherine conformed that Nick is Rio's(death itself) and Agathas child, which is probably why he is born dead and why Rio bent the rules for him)
I think it's because Alice's powers was not enough for Agatha that's why she was still absorbing it. Billy on the other hand have too much power so Agatha was able to stop it.
Yeah Alice had only a little power (since she had only just defeated her curse) so Agatha drained her powers and killed her instinctively. Billy had way more power so Agatha was able to recharge and break the power flow before he died. And I think she used Billy’s power to become a ghost and avoid being completely dead (and to tick of her ex)
6:00 yeah comics are way different, both thanos and deadpool are in love with death, a lot of shit happens, like thanos never letting deadpool stay dead cause he doesn't want him to be with death and stuff lol
why did billie offer to go with death after agatha already offered, then get mad when agatha was like okay then take him?? why did he fake-volunteer? "is this how nick died?" man forget you 😂 that boy annoys me, classic maximoff
Agatha is just a grade A gaslighter and manipulator. I also think she is effectively a drug addict, but for the high that taking magic gives her. She was lying about Alice being an accident.
Notice that Rio picked up Nicholas the only day Agatha didn't kill people? She was leaving bodies behind to slow death down and "distract her from him"
In the comics Agatha dies and becomes a ghostly mentor and Wanda eventually brings her back to life. So if we do get the Wanda movie thats currently in talks at Marvel Agatha will probably come back to life. Remember Wanda created her children out of nothing so since Agatha already has a soul all she needs is her body to be recreated and i think that’s what will happen because Kathryn Hahn who plays Agatha has signed on for 7 more years at Marvel.
This show had no business being this good. Early on in the run, Sharon Davis mentioned something about the failed transportation system. And if you'll remember during Lilia's trial, when Jen and Lilia were in the tunnels, they saw a subway. The Road was in Agatha's basement and abandoned Subway tunnels. Agatha can create illusions. Billy and Wanda can create reality. Death cutting through the background is still funny.
There are so many little hints that Billy was the one who made the road. The door and the vines are blue like his power. The door was hexagon shaped just like Wanda's hex (which showed up the exact moment he wanted it to so they could escape the Salem Seven). Billy instantly got all of the clues on how to start each of the trials (as shown, all of the trials were based on things in his room), etc. Also, BOTH Wanda and Wiccan have the power to warp reality (Wanda did not create illusions), though Wiccan's showing is far more impressive since he created something akin to a pocket dimension. Wanda on the other hand mind controlled the entire town while simultaneously altering reality around them.
This final 3 episode run was awesome!
Was waiting for yall😢 to say ...well it was billy all along nobody said it thumbs up anyway
The road is not an illusion,billy created it
I just want to say I called it all!
@xxstahnxx5559 correct, he did what his mom did and created what he wanted making the road an actual place
Wanda and Billy have the power to warp realities. And Billy is arguably more powerful than Wanda in the comics.
“agatha sucked out his powers so he cant fly rn”
noooo bro, why would he leave his car there?? its prolly his parents car 😭😭
its that simple sometimes lmao
Yeah. And he's still pretends to be "William Kaplan" in front of his parents so they wouldn't know William really died. He couldn't appear on their doorstep flying cause Wiliam don't do magic.
This pretending will take a long time even after the founding of the Young Avengers. Even after finding Tommy.
Okay I'm so glad someone actually said something about this already because who is going to leave their car just because they have the ability to fly, like what?
@@mannycordoba732 William's parents would literally whoop his ass if he leaves that car.
@@RandomlyRJ lmfaooo fr, they seem nice but not that nice 😅
@@RandomlyRJ William's parents prolly would send him straight to see Rio herself if he left without their car. 😭
"Stole a second life" means he got to exist a second time. That's what death hates about him. It's the same reason she hates ghosts.
Its cheating the system ala Final Destination
The fact that Agatha and her child made that song give the lyrics a whole new meaning
It explains why she argued that it's Coven TWO not Coven True, because it was just the two of them, her and Nicky.
It also makes sense why she says she was the only survivor, because Nicky died...
Loki creates illusions. Wanda and Billy create new realities.
No actually Wanda and Billy alter existing realities. Still an OP power. Franklin Richards, Mad Jim Jaspers (I believe), and the Molecule man...those mofos create new realities.
@@trembledust6819Wanda and Billy can do both
@@trembledust6819 tomato tomato lol
I think the correct term is pocket dimension
@@trembledust6819Altering existing realities is still changing them into a new reality. Wanda and Billy are still able to create a brand new ones, and are more powerful than the other characters you mentioned
You know something I never thought until now, with each trial, Billy was the one to activate them: the card on the mantle, play the record, picking up the ouija board, putting down the first tarot card, and dropping his book back in the body bag, he was subconciously controlling the trials like Wanda making edits and changes to each version of West View
Yeah he envisioned being the main character clearly 😂
He said "i wish Lilia was here" and that's when they found the way into the trial. He said "without a green which we are back at square one" and then they were back at the beginning
Seeing things from Agatha’s POV back in ep 2 and seeing her reaction when she realised the scam she’s been pulling for centuries is actually real had me screaming lmao
When she grabbed the dirt to make sure that she could actually feel what she was seeing 😂😂
The fact that she knew teen was billy since then because wanda and billys “tell” was matter manipulation and creation. This show is just perfect
I dont think she knew he was Billy she just knew he had powers similar to the Scarlett witch and thought he was just another powerful witch. She was suspicious of him but said that she didn't know 100% he was Wanda's Billy until he Attacked her.
@@kingjames6948no I’m pretty sure she knew it was him at that moment
@@mFabulous14yea like who else would it be? Definitely not Toby
Why do people keep forgetting Wanda's power and Billy's power is *reality* warping, not illusions; THE SHIT THEY MAKE IS *REAL* DUDE!!! Why is that so hard for so many thousands of people to understand!?!😂😂
She made her own Sons!
Probably cause Agatha's is illusions and that's what they hear last in episode 9
@@AlbertoMartinez765 Yep, and you'd be shocked how many people are *still* denying that they're real😅
Probably because Agatha was actually under a mental manipulation spell at the beginning, different from the chaos magic that warped reality
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The Wiccan suit looks ripped straight out of the comics!! Damn!!
I absolutely loved how they changed the headband to the tiara that was a fantastic choice it suits him as well like his mother.
It not totally ripped out of the comics. Still looks better though.
mcu is really entering the almost comic book accurate suits AND backstory era. if the x-men are done this way too, i will be so happy
Bro the outfit is fireee 🔥❤️
@@eugeniamarchwho cares about comic book accurate, shits not the bible lolol even comics don’t respect their own established canon lolol
Did you guys notice when Billy said "coven two" at the end, it was a callback to Agatha and Jen arguing about the song's lyrics in one of the earlier episodes? Jen said "It's coven TRUE" and Agatha said "no, it's coven TWO". She was probably getting mad af that the others were arguing with her about the shit that she literally wrote but she couldn't school them because she had to keep the lie going 😂 But that being said, the "coven two" bit is lowkey sweet because it was about her and her kid and they didn't need anyone else. God damn, this show is layered!
And the haters was proved wrong ONCE AGAIN…
Look the show was good but the hell do you mean once again? Acolyte, Echo, She-Hulk, Book of Bobofet, Kenobi all got canceled how the hell is that being proven wrong?
@@patrickmcguire7896She-Hulk, Echo and Obi-Wan Kenobi were all limited series and were advertised as such, so how the hell were they cancelled?
@TheEliteSharingan Bulls××t, SHE-HULK was not a limited series at all if that was the case it wouldn't have so much connections to the main timeline
@TheEliteSharingan Also what does those shows being limited series or not related to them being absolute GARBAGE?
@@TheEliteSharingan She-Hulk s2 was cancelled for a number of factors. They were hoping it would do well.
Agatha is finally comic accurate.
She’s a ghost in the comics and is a mentor figure.
This show was crazy.
@@RetroLiminal99444 Girl she was a ghost for a little comic run in 2015-2017, that’s not her normal state
@ it’s still COMIC accurate
@@RetroLiminal99444lol everything is comic accurate when you have a multiverse and 75 years of storylines 😅
@ lol true
from what i heard, she was killing witches with her son because she hoped the bodies would give her more time with him. the day they didn’t kill the witches was the same day rio took him.
11:08 “She had to struggle, in Black”
Dawg Lupa… 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭 Ayo
the official Goblin mode resident of the channel fr fr fr
I mean..he's not wrong 😂😂😂
11:01
Alice was Agatha's first shot of whiskey after years of sobriety. Billy was a whole barrel.
Lmaoo
Agatha is actually a ghost in the comics btw. She helped guide Wanda
Yeah, she’s actually in her ghost advisor form that she’s mostly seen in. I wonder if she’ll use Billy to get another body/life
And i think its a level up from Alive agatha
Bro I think that Agatha actually couldn’t control when she took Alice’s magic. I think that she was deprived of magic for so long that she couldn’t stop it and also the trial was to punish Agatha so when Alice died that was the first time she was forced to face the consequences of her actions. This show is so good. It was so intricately thought out and scripted. It’s genius.
No she actually did stop tho lol when Billy brought up Nicholas she was in shock and she stopped but she had already taken too much
The writing!!! So good! Did you all notice that Agatha listed the traits of the coven? She told Nicky she could not “heal” him, “protect” him or “divine” when Rio would come for him.
My favorite part is how they changed the credits to show how the road was created based on his room the entire time.
It was the Room All Along
Sharon says in the third episode that underneath Westview is the failed transit system. They weren't in an alternate dimension, Billy just redressed the old transit tunnels into the road (just like Wanda redressed Westview into her sitcoms worlds). It's just rewriting what is there to what you want it to be. But they were not in an alternate dimension. That's why in ep 7, when Lilia and Jen were walking around and part of it was in the trials, like the yellow glowing roots, and they came across the subway tunnels and could have left the trial it's because he just wasn't using that part of the tunnel. So they really could have just walked out at that point.
Theory is that Nicky is an off-spring of Death. And killing the witches was a payment to maintain Death’s sacred balance. Hence, he got taken the moment they stopped killing.
i dont know if that work cuz they killed multiple witches for 1 soul? i think it was just cuz thats how agatha maintains her power and youth. and we dont know if death only needs A soul or if she needs THE soul so we dont know if you could keep death away from someone by giving her some other soul
Uh, No. Jac Schaeffer was asked whether Agatha was killing witches as payment to or distraction for Death and she said Death doesn't work like that when she's doing her job. Death is like nature. There's a balance. It's not all about bodies. She's just present where there's bodies and Agatha let her combine work and play. Until they "had beef" that is. :-)
never had a show change my mind about it midway through so much.
Honestly those were 3 very powerful episodes back to back, so I'm on the same boat
Why didn't yall like it before wanda...
@@sazude2 right 🤔
Idk why people asking or saying can't he fly. He drove to Westview in the beginning, so what now he is going to leave his car? Yeah I know Wanda left her car, but she was fleeing the authorities Billy isn't. Plus Billy has a family to go back to. He couldn't just come back and his car be gone.
Dudes a whole ass superhero Bill.. come on now 😂 Edit: Sure mates, sure 👍
@@intothefrayyo doesn't mean he is gonna just leave his car there and him flying over town would bring him unwanted attention.
True, and also he's 16. It's probably his parent's car so he had to drive it back lmao
I think that Agatha is like an addict, she loves the power and will do anything to keep it and get more. So even if she hurts people that she kind of likes it gets washed over by the feeling
this show proves that marvel doesn’t need a big fight sequence or a huge budget to make good content.
That's true. A lot of the show was practical with minimal big budget effects. And it all worked out.
@@dansehyanou6827 the acting could use some work. at times i felt i was watching a hallmark movie
This isn’t good content
Ok honestly imagine a ghost of a person like Agatha haunting you and following you around, how annoying would that be
@@elizabethp1772It would be kinda fun but yeah mostly annoying
@@elizabethp1772 in the comics Agatha was more of a teacher to Wanda when she became a ghost, I guess now she is Billy teacher. But in the comic Dr.Strange was Billy teacher will see what the MCU does.
would be like having the most supportive and sassy auntie by your side, Billy about to go out with his bf and Agatha be like "remember, foreplay makes the playground smoother, also don't forget to get ur lube, did you douche?" 🤣
If they can just pop in and out whenever they want, that’s some massive privacy issue lol
The funniest part is she makes a deal with Rio that when she dies Rio would not be there, and Rio is the one ushering souls to the other side, so she basically made SURE that she wouldn't go to the other side and remain a ghost. She planned that ahead of time, she is insane.
I absolutely loved the scene of Billy helping Tommy find a new body, and that it was in someone who had no family who would miss him. That along with the mind blowing reveal that HE created the Witch’s Road completely on accident shows how INSANELY overpowered he is, as the son of the Scarlet Witch should be.
I still hate that Lillia, Alice and even Sharon died and weren’t somehow saved in the end, and I hate that Billy was indirectly responsible for their deaths, but I do love that he memorialized them and will from now on do his best to never repeat his mistakes and end up like Wanda. Still he managed to save Jennifer Kale and help get her power back.
I find it so interesting that with Wanda and Billy, they aren't making illusions. They're legitimately rewriting reality. So the road is real, but only after Billy made it. Same with Wanda's little world. It was real, it could just be undone. Imagine having that much power at your disposal off RIP!!! They are absolutely insane power houses.
In the comics, Billy is destined to become the source of all magic . So yeah, he is crazy powerful.
whats scarier is that there are characters even more powerful that MCU has yet to intro.
Imagine another coven of witches finds out about the road being in Agatha’s basement and sings the ballad to continue the road in the next film orits at least mentioned
@@uselesshuman7644 The road is not there anymore, he closed it
@@jamiedoe6822Well.. it's kinda retconned now in the comics, but wiccan is still the demiurge.
They were under Westview the entire time! That's why we saw the abandoned subway and also why Jen climbed out through the dirt in the end. Billy created the road and it basically ran underneath the town.
37:05 It wasn't an ilussion, the road was real, he literally created an entire dimension
Exactly. He creates reality.
I find that interesting, cause if the "road" that Billy conjures is now a real separate dimension, and he only closed the door. Does that mean other coven of witches will now be able to access it if they chant the ballad? Since the road itself has some form of sentience and its own free will thanks to Billy's magic.
@MarceloSilva-kp7mc Or he just changed a section of the underground area beneath the town I think is more likely
Yall really gotta watch the end discussions, we literally talk about it and how he had to seal it up cause someone else could have gone down there
It's not that deep. What he did was just a localised, less powerful hex. Wanda's he was over a whole town, could warp clothes, colour and even the minds of those inside. Billy's was limited to Agatha's basement or perhaps a section of the town's underground (hence they went in a circle around and ended up back in said basement) and could only warp the location and clothes of those in it, not their minds.
“Billy got a whole stand?” 😂😂
“I could make real skincare products…omg.”
This comment literally made me say omg😂😂
The physical location of the road was actually under Westview in the defunct subway tunnels. Sharon mentioned it in episode one and Jen said it again in episode seven. I think the spell on Agatha had her imagining everything was because it was a weaker spell that was only there to keep Agatha contained. Wanda and Billy were/are so powerful they can create, bend and alter reality.
Create? No, bend and alter yes.
@@Zaacdrumscreate
They said she has spontaneous creation so Wanda could create too, she created her sons. @@Zaacdrums
@@purplequeen833 that’s true. I forgot about that part
Agatha is evil. It's something people keep missing and trying to justify her actions because she's entertaining/main character. She can be entertaining and "Likeable" but actually evil. She is capable of empathy when she chooses, but she has two settings either she cares or you're just disposable, there is no in-between. Billy reminded her of her son and in some ways herself which makes her care...sometimes. Outside of that she is self-serving. She killed witches for her own gain, her son dying was because he was sick and living on borrowed time.
I see some fans theorizing and trying to justify things, but the show is literally telling us this is Agatha All Along. It's who she is, manipulative but broken puppet master. People assume she killed the witches to keep her son healthy or keep RIO busy, but that isn't why she killed witches, and even stated she can't heal him and doesn't know when Rio will come back. She does it because everything in her mind is kill or be killed. To be the most powerful and manipulate the weak minded to get her way.
There might be 1 additional reason. But it's not a strong enough pull to mention 😂
@intothefrayyo I think her current plan is to help Billy so he helps her, since he's powerful enough to effect natural order of things. She probably wants to fully and unconditionally gain his trust and show him that sometimes you have to break the rules to get what he wants so he'll do same for her in gratitude. The problem is that while extremely smart, she has to fight her instincts of kill or be killed. She likely made the plan but was also just willing to let him die at first chance and actively has to snap out of that.
The conversation between her and Rio probably gave her the idea, seeing that Rio needed it to be his will to do things. Agatha also laid out the scheme of becoming a ghost with her deal that when her time comes, Rio won't come back for her or have to see her face again. Agatha is playing a long game but probably continuously goes back and forth of caring about Billy to a degree and seeing him as disposable means to an end.
@@darrius3022 I gotcha mate.
I meant as far as why certain people try to remove the villain out of Agatha… mean while she’s a whole serial killer
@intothefrayyo Agreed Agatha is absolutely a serial killer, and I don't understand how some are mistaking what we see her do and what she says. She's pretty up front about it.
I agrée, but at the same time it’s killing two birds with one stone. She was definitely killing witches to save her son and to gain power. But she’s still evil
To be fair, Agetha knew Sharon wasn't a witch and just brought her so they wouldn't bring Death, so she kinda the reason she died too lol
Agatha learned from the rest of her coven she was gonna use a protection circle like Alice she was utilizing a potion of water just like Jen she took Lily’s advice when she told her to duck.
That wasn't her coven. Those were her marks. She didn't give a single shit about them.
Me when I didnt pay attention @@FiresCollide
@@FiresCollide 🤣🤣, right? I keep forgetting ma'am was a whole serial killer with an M.O and everything like if this was a crime novel or show we would call her the ballad killer or something...also funny that the ep 1 is a whole crime show where some Jane Doe is found murdered, imagine all the criminal investigators who found the dead witches she killed!!!
Death cut herself out of that reality because Death literally has no bounds. It is inevitable and everywhere.
This content is so good! I can't stop watching!
They were in the closed transit system reimagined as Billy's Hex. The clue was when Jen saw the train in episode 7. That was the outer edge of the Hex. The tunnels Jen and Lilia were walking through were literally subway tunnels.
Btw Wanda was also altering reality and creating something out of nothing like Billy, she was just casting illusions along side it.
None of it was really an illusion.
@ yeah actually true now that i think about it
25:19 Folks have missed a few details because they came so early in the show. They said that Alice's mom's version of the song was a cover not the original dong because the song had been passed throughout the ages amongst the witches but the song was created by Nicholas and Agatha. Agatha went from using her son to using his song to avoid deaths embrace which is why shes ashamed of the truth in how he died and why shes afraid to join him. She doesn't want to be with death for taking him and she doesn't want him to hate her.
She said she couldnt control it with Alice becuase she is an addict. She has been an addict for centuries, and Alice held no sentimental value that would encourage Agatha to stop when it feels so amazing. She was only able to stop with Billy because the affection she feels for him because he reminds her of Nicky is greater than her addiction.
You guys are really out here defending a serial killer.
@@larynOneka8080not defending, understanding
I just realized that Death didn’t come for Nicky until he refused to help Agatha kill anymore witches
Do you think him helping prolonged his life??
@ i definitely think it’s a possibility. Agatha used him as a part of her con basically straight out of the womb so idk but possible lol
yea I saw a theory that Agatha was killing witches like a sacrifice to Death to keep from taking her son. I don't think that is the case cause if Agatha really believed that then she would of faught tooth and nail to take some witches' powers when Nicky just ran off. Another one is that Agatha was killing to build up her strength to keep Nicky safe. who knows. Cool theories though.
@@trembledust6819I think most of those theories only exist to ignore the fact that Agatha is a villain. She kills, because she likes it.
Because let's think logically. Death is collecting bodies across the entirety of existence but because Agatha kills a couple witches every few days she's distracted from Nicholas?
Death gave Agatha time out of love. That time expired. That's the scar and the job she did she was discussing episode 4.
But seriously, every chance Agatha has ever had to kill other witches, with and without Nicholas existing yet or not, she's done it. There's no grand purpose, she murders witches, it's what she does
@@THG-3141 She only kills witches. It looks like she is the only good one.
and one thing I noticed after this season finale that explains a lot of her roll in WandaVision and her persistence on trying to find out how did Wanda create a whole new reality, I think it's because she wanted to learn that too and try to manifest physically her son Nick so they could be together again.
Basically, she was just jealous ate Wanda for being able to make all of that to feel better and she never could, cus her powers only served the purpose of take life and mischief ...
This show was amazing at portraying Agatha's nuances and layers. She is indeed a great character and I really hope Marvel Television shows follow the same rout as WandaVision and AAA has walked through. Also, I love you guys. Keep up doing these videos and I've been following yell for several years now, it's so much fun. Sending love from Brazil
Yeah remember when the twins asked wanda to bring sparky back to life, agatha was like "you can do that?" And when wanda says we cant bring them back no matter how sad it makes us, she shakes her head and cries a bit, think that was her genuine feelings
But even if she absorbs wandas powers would she be able to do reality warping like her? cuz here she took energy from other witches and she didnt get their abilities so...
@ yeaaah! Everything makes sense now! They are really good at putting all these pieces together ✨✨
For sure one of your best uploads yet!
Billy can probably still fly but he needed to drive his car back 🤣
'This show is crazy bro!' at the end of episode 8 hahaha. It's super creative! I loved, loved the fight between Agatha and Rio / Death, the 'death by 1,000 cuts' moment was crazy, as well as Billy throwing death through that house and showing up in his badass fit! Also the reveal that it was Agatha all along who knew makes sense, like she's 400+ years old so it's not her first time at the rodeo.
My theory is that Agatha started killing witches to have death distracted from taking Agatha’s son, because the one day Agatha didn’t killed was the day death came for Nicholas, and I guess she started having an addiction to get power and probably reason why she continued doing it, but idk it’s just my theary
Why are people shocked that Agatha is evil? Iam so glad Agatha is genuinely a menace. Enough with the tragic, misunderstood villains
She's no menace. She kills monsters. She's basically like Blade.
@@alphanerd7221she is a menace. She was killing witches to gain their power for centuries
@@purplequeen833 So is Blade a menace too?
@@alphanerd7221 he kills vampires that be killing people and to protect people while Agatha purely aims to kill any witch, good or bad for power?? 😂
@@purplequeen833 Witches kill people. They never show Agatha try to kill any witch that doesn't try to kill her first.
Remember when Sharon mentioned in Episode 2 that she expected them to be in their failed subway system? Maybe Billy used that space to manifest the road. Also, remember in Ep.7 when Jen had the chance to take a subway exit to leave the Witch's Road?
Agatha was killing witches before Nicky’s death to distract Rio from taking him. The day they didn’t, Rio wasn’t distracted.
Can’t distract death with one body. Death exists throughout the whole multiverse collecting technically an infinite amount of bodies everyday. She was just being nice.
@@Zaacdrums Except it wasn't just one body, she was killing covens one after another. Maybe it was a deal, just like how they had a deal throughout the show for Billy's soul. Like "I give you more bodies in exchange for more time"
You know a character is grade A manipulator when the fans are starting to make theories to justify her every action
@@makima2983 it was just a thought that came to mind damn 😂
@@makima2983 oh no, I'm not justifying her actions, it just makes sense
Billys so op death cant even touch him
I think death can't kill people outright because it violates the natural order of things, every living thing is given its own timespan on earth. Death could kill agatha because agathas time was up a long time ago she was borrowing time from other witches and power. But Billy was unique since he was constructed from something outside the frame of life. Not only that, but his unnatural soul also was inhibiting a already dead body. That's how I see it anyways.
Death technically could have killed Billy but his soul would have escaped her grasp. She doesn't like to over exert herself because it draws the attention of her siblings Eternity, Entropy, and Infinity. She has smited entire universes in the comics when given "permission".
@@mostcreative3680 Yeah, that. It's not that she literally can't kill him, but more that she doesn't want to because she knows he can just find a new body. She's a universal constant, so she's one of the strongest beings, but Billy is a glitch in the system she can't get rid of unless he goes with her willingly.
@@mostcreative3680Life is her twin sister and she will not like it either if Death encroached her territory (she is little known but she is actually a Marvel character as well)
Agatha said that Death couldn't kill him because he would reincarnate in episode 8.
Guys, this series was a surprise for me, I hope they win some award because it is an excellent production despite the small budget that is visible and a great series. 🖤🔥
lol this shit ain’t winning no awards with Penguin still running
@tmac731 Oh wow, you can predict the future, right? If the penguin wins an award, it will be due to his merit and deserved, but don't doubt that Agatha will be able to win one, because Agatha's production is super hard and well done, all with very little budget, the two series have DIFFERENT CONCEPTS, my love.
@@tmac731 penguin's fucking ass bro wym
Death is also who loves Deadpool,and he's cursed to never die so they can never be together because of Thanos' jealousy
Agatha and Death didn't really make sense.. The Salem 7 easily could've dispatched all characters.. Outside of Wiccan. Also.. how are all the Salem 7 dead.. they had ones that could fly 🫤
@@intothefrayyo Gravity inversion is a bitch, especially for flying types. They probably thought "Oh, were going up? Big Deal, we can Fly!" Then they hit the spikes.
They died looking "down" and wondering why their blood was flowing the wrong way.....
@@intothefrayyoonly 2 could fly. The owl and cicada, and changing into animal form probably takes more than 0 seconds to do. And is probably extremely difficult to do when caught off guard by falling up
Literally every instance of magic we've been shown, there's casting time. Be it witchcraft (Agatha) or sorcery (Dr. Strange)
@@intothefrayyo I can see why between Agatha and Death. Deadpool and Thanos are ones who have killed many, and that's a big part of why Death is attracted to them. Agatha is another that killed many, and Lady Death loves her for it.
She doesn't really love deadpool only the idea he represent
Why does everyone ask why he didn’t fly away? He’s a teenager with parents who would probably be pretty pissed if he just left the car in another city!
You can tell agatha is bullshiting when starts speaking loud and arrogant
WandaVision and Agatha All Along are soooooo good! Justifieeeed!
18:00 Agatha wanted to kill Alice, she's a villain people!!!lol
The Cult of Agatha Harkness doesn't want to hear that. Lol
@larynOneka8080 kkkk
Then why isn't she killing anyone but monsters?
she never wanted it..
Nah she murk'd Alice and then tried to play it off like there was nothing she could do
There's no evidence she could have.
Billy doesn't make illusions, y'all. He made that shit and once he made it it was real
I think she let Jen live because she was a midwife. A person who helps children come into the world, and what’s Agatha’s one thing she loves more than anything? Her son. Her son who would have died in childbirth if not for death averting her eyes. How many people did Jen save from the same fate Agatha went through who didn’t have deaths favor?
The property values in Westview have to be next to nothing. Those people can't sell those houses. How are they going to move?
"Coven two", "If one be gone we carry on", "I hold death's hand in mine" Are all lyrics Agatha made up that are related to Nicky im gonna cry. Especially the second one bc Nicky was literally holding Rio's hand. ToT
The Hex and Billy’s road are not illusions. They are real, just temporary. They were underneath Westview but not wandering around like Agatha was.
The only illusion is the one Wanda left Agatha in.
Agatha will stay a ghost (for now atleast) because Rio doesnt like ghosts, so Agatha got her wish... Rio wont come after her as long as she remains a ghost
Agatha: "Well, technically you saved a life."
Because Agatha was planning on killing all of them
A note about the 19:07: I think the key to fully understands Agatha’s character is have in mind that she’s a villain, she’s not a anti hero or hero, she’s a villain and do anything to survive, she was selfish with everyone but her kid, so we need stop try to see a redemption arc cause it’s never coming, she wanted rio to take Billy but he was smart and played with the one thing that makes Agatha vulnerable that is her son, she was kinda projecting him on Billy so she saved him just because of it. She CAN REALLY control her powers she wanted to kill Alice and lied about can’t controlled
True and i love how in a rewatch your points ring more true. Agatha ain't good nor is trying to be.
So Billy is a villain too
@@yuriconnoisseursmm debatable because billy didn't do any of that on purpose while Agatha does. Agatha knew billy made the road and never said until the end.
@ she said she wasn’t sure in episode 6
@@yuriconnoisseurs yea but she suspected. she still knew the road wasn't real to begin with and plan on killing the witches while billy never knew until the end, so I don't see him as a villain.
Billy is so overpowered he literally subconsciously conjured his own pocket dimension without even trying to. I’d love to see the adventures of Billy and ghost Agatha.
ghost agatha is just the beginning for her character. she is now in her comic book form. we will see more of her mentoring the magicians of the mcu
Let's not forget Agatha has knowledge from the Darkhold meaning Billy has a teacher with great and vast knowledge on magic.
Maybe you're just using the word illusion differently than I'm used to, but Billy is actually warping reality to make the witch's road, not just making an illusion of it. Billy is crazy OP in the comics.
Producer “alright Aubrey we only have one green screen so let’s get this right this first time”
49:09 no wanda literally altered reality just like billy did, monica goes over this when they realise her 80's clothes are still her bulletproof clothes just altered But we do get multiple hints they were underground the entire time
1. In ep7 the way out that jen finds is a subway station the same thing sharon said she would expect to see down there
2. When agatha finally escapes the road she comes up from her basement
3. Jen literally crawls out of the ground
That Keyser Soze ending. "The greatest trick Mephisto ever pulled was convincing the MCU that he was going to show up in these shows."
Death about to said the road is not real on the beginning of ep8, but Agatha stop her for saying it.
Yep yep she was about to say it but was cut by Agatha! 🤣
Guys, what Wanda did in Westview wasn't an illusion, it was real. Agatha said it in the finale of Wandavision, it's called chaos magic, she can literally change and reshape reality, and Billy too.
5:55 Yeah, in the comics, Thanos was in love with Death, so he tried to impress her by snapping half of life in the universe to prove how much he loved her, but she didn't love him 😂
I still would've rather this version in the mcu
Like why did thanos think Death would love him 😭? He is just giving her extra work and now she works extra shifts
@@ArtzInfinity.Not to mention upsetting the natural balance of the universe, she probably thought of him as a foolish creature thinking she would be impressed by his evil act.
Don’t steal her struggle and you hold nothing has so many layers.
No, death ment billy maximoff, although short, had a life in wandas hex and getting a second chance is unnatural
exactly. he was fucking up the natural order of things and would make it worse if he brought back Tommy too.
I have a feeling we haven't seen the last of Rio / Lady Death , now Tommy is back too, something gotta give , Billy can't keep making people alive again and cheating Death her mortals as the balance of the universe dictates. Rio isn't evil, she just is, and though sometimes very abrasive and mean at times she doesn't lie. Billy don't let her go to the Living Tribunal or the One Above All to complain about you if you keep doing this.
@@dansby37 luckily he is stronger then them in his future predicted demigorgon form
@@sese8976 no one is stronger than the One Above All , the literal God and creator of the Marvel Universe, indeed the Omniverse, it's just that he/she rarely intervenes, usually leaving such matters to his/her second in command and his/her first creation The Living Tribunal whose job is to oversee the natural and cosmic flow of the multiverse,and making sure all balance is always maintained ,but nothing or no one can stop him/her once a decision or judgement is made. The creation is never greater than the Creator.
@@dansby37 we are talking about death not the one above all wican is stronger then death and prob the living tribunal he is destined to destroy the marvel unmivers 8th incantation where franklin will become the new galactus
Now that we have Wiccan and Speed, I think we have enough for Young Avengers series!
They need to hurry the F up because at this rate they're gonna be middle aged Avengers 😂
Bill Maximoff: the game creator of the Witches' Road
I think Agatha became a ghost because she told Death: "When I die I don't want to see your face", There's no alternative to Death, therefore she has to become a Ghost and not be claimed by her, Like Agatha said: "Calculated Risk" and Why at the 1st Episode Rio said, take my tower and Agatha was like, You know i'll die if I do that, so yeah Roshi was on Point, Kiss of Death..
I literally can't wait to see more of Billy's journey, especially with Agatha in his pocket, she can actually train him and teach him more witchcraft, plus help him with his reality warping
Don't forget the "random" subway station in episode 7😁
???…………….. Spider-Man? Shang chi?? Wanda/vision??? Idk-Runaways????
@@jeremiahscott2032 It was another clue about it being not real and was a construct by Billy. It wasn't an alternate dimension, nor a different universe, or even a mind game. The ENTIRE Witch's Road was manifested under the ground, evidently bordering a subway station.
I personally thought that cause Rio said your case was special that meant that in order for Nicky to live Agatha would have to bring Rio souls and bodies in exchange for prolonging Nicks life since he was a stillborn for whom even death tried to cheat the rules and thats why Agatha spent all that time killing innocent witches but after Rio reclaims Nicky's soul Agatha falls into a deep depression and grief that she goes off the rails and just decides to go along with power scaling ( just like Wanda lost control of her magick ij her grief and sorrow) ( also i think Katherine conformed that Nick is Rio's(death itself) and Agathas child, which is probably why he is born dead and why Rio bent the rules for him)
Wandavision ❤️ LOKI 💚 Ágatha 💜 the only Marvel series that really looks like a TV SERIES
I think it's because Alice's powers was not enough for Agatha that's why she was still absorbing it. Billy on the other hand have too much power so Agatha was able to stop it.
Yeah Alice had only a little power (since she had only just defeated her curse) so Agatha drained her powers and killed her instinctively. Billy had way more power so Agatha was able to recharge and break the power flow before he died. And I think she used Billy’s power to become a ghost and avoid being completely dead (and to tick of her ex)
6:00 yeah comics are way different, both thanos and deadpool are in love with death, a lot of shit happens, like thanos never letting deadpool stay dead cause he doesn't want him to be with death and stuff lol
Yeah, I've thought about that.
3:53, She was about to spoil the twist ending b4 Agatha stopped her.😮
why did billie offer to go with death after agatha already offered, then get mad when agatha was like okay then take him?? why did he fake-volunteer? "is this how nick died?" man forget you 😂 that boy annoys me, classic maximoff
Westview gonna be the 1st town to sign up for the sentinel protection programme after all this.
Agatha is just a grade A gaslighter and manipulator. I also think she is effectively a drug addict, but for the high that taking magic gives her. She was lying about Alice being an accident.
Exactly... She's an evil bitch. She killed Alice 😮💨
Notice that Rio picked up Nicholas the only day Agatha didn't kill people? She was leaving bodies behind to slow death down and "distract her from him"
In the comics Agatha dies and becomes a ghostly mentor and Wanda eventually brings her back to life. So if we do get the Wanda movie thats currently in talks at Marvel Agatha will probably come back to life. Remember Wanda created her children out of nothing so since Agatha already has a soul all she needs is her body to be recreated and i think that’s what will happen because Kathryn Hahn who plays Agatha has signed on for 7 more years at Marvel.
This show had no business being this good.
Early on in the run, Sharon Davis mentioned something about the failed transportation system. And if you'll remember during Lilia's trial, when Jen and Lilia were in the tunnels, they saw a subway.
The Road was in Agatha's basement and abandoned Subway tunnels.
Agatha can create illusions. Billy and Wanda can create reality.
Death cutting through the background is still funny.
It’s fun noticing Agatha in prior episodes basically playing detective and figure out what’s causing all this
Billy can do more than wanda when it comes to reality warping and time manipulating in the comic.
YESSIR BEEN WAITING ON THIS
Y’all reactions too funny. “Billy got to go!” Loved the commentary❤
There are so many little hints that Billy was the one who made the road. The door and the vines are blue like his power. The door was hexagon shaped just like Wanda's hex (which showed up the exact moment he wanted it to so they could escape the Salem Seven). Billy instantly got all of the clues on how to start each of the trials (as shown, all of the trials were based on things in his room), etc.
Also, BOTH Wanda and Wiccan have the power to warp reality (Wanda did not create illusions), though Wiccan's showing is far more impressive since he created something akin to a pocket dimension. Wanda on the other hand mind controlled the entire town while simultaneously altering reality around them.