Agatha wasn't possessed, Agatha is nice when she's weak, but she became her real self the moment she got some power back. That was just Agatha being Agatha.
Remember that if teen really was Agatha’s son, he wouldn’t have been able to say Nick’s name because of the spell. So to Agatha, that proves that he is in fact NOT her son.
If the sigil was broken, then he would have been able to say they name. But when Agatha heard her son's pleading for her to stop, then she knew for sure.
some people where saying that since Teen said Agatha's son's name, it made her realize that teen isn't her son since she was able to hear him say it - so she kind of put together that if Teen isn't her son, he had to be Wanda's
You just found out Your enemys son has been with you this whole time yet didnt think nothing of it? Didnt feel betrayed or threatened at all? You just troll him and walk away? Somethings fishy. The title of the show is "agatha all along" for a reason so i cant wait to see how this all unfolds. Has she been trolling the entire show somehow?? Hmmm.
Yeah, Teen lost Agatha's "good side" from then on since he confronted her. Agatha has called Teen "pet" before when she first found him and went to meet Lilia ("he is my pet"). She was just being spiteful and dismissive when Teen called her out. The same thing happened when Teen was healing at the end of episode 4 and asked Agatha about her son; a topic she just does not want to talk about.
The crown on Billy's head is supposed to resemble Wanda's, but also to pay homage to his comic look where he wore a headpiece that looked sort of like a crown.
Remember, in Wandavision, when Agatha was on the stake and trying to get killed by her coven and mom, she was pleading with them saying that she can’t control her absorption power and to not blast her. She even pleaded to them saying they should teach her to control it, but she didn’t listen. So Agatha saying now that she couldn’t control killing Alice is very real in my opinion
@@twoll5688 Well remember too, Wanda was dying. Her face was ending up like Alice in this episode. But it could be that Wanda was also making her runes in Westview, while giving her power to Agatha. So Wanda didn't die because Agatha couldn't use her magic anymore and absorb the rest of her life. Also, Wanda was more powerful than Agatha due to her chaos magic, so that could've played a rool.
@@itsmelancholiaThat was not real, she manipulated reality in her own body to make it look like she was dying to trick Agatha into thinking she was getting her power The only "real" bruise she had was on her hands, but once she nullified Agatha's magic with the last rune, that was easy to fix with her power
Notice how the trial exit goes up a ladder instead of going down like the other trials (down slide, down in the piano). They failed the trial From the lyrics, their suppose to go down, down, down the road, down the witches road. I think Teen helped them by forcing them down the quicksand. One of the rules for ouija is they must play together but Teen finished it alone.
That moment when Agatha says "Always finish what you started..." My mind went STRAIGHT to Harley Quinn's character The Queen of Fables (Wanda Sykes) INFAMOUS tagline lol "You ALWAYS end the bloodline..."
I still love just the random “You should see me in a crown” from Billie Eilish at the end there with the scene of Teen, or Billy as we should probably say now
Remember when Lilia is being weird? Ep2: "Get off me!" was for Episode 4 when she burns. ❌ Ep2: *yelling in the kitchen* might be Ep5 when the spirit was released. ❌ Ep3: "i love you guys" was a continuation of her line in the Ep4 camp fire "you know we hated each other at the beginning but now, i love you guys" ✔️ Ep4: "alice don't" and Ep3: "try to save Agatha" was for Ep5 "Alice don't try to save Agatha" ✔️
Also, Lilia has been calling out different card names "randomly" throughout the show ("Knight of wands", "Three of spades", etc.) I haven't paid attention to that, but I know each card means something in the magick or esoteric world
@@djoscartjknight of wands is alice’s tarot card shown in the promo with a sword and a dragon behind her foreshadowing her death and episode 4, agatha three of spades card
@@djoscartj Yes, first she calls Three of Pentacles when writing the coven names in Ep.2 = Collaboration. Three of Swords when Agatha thought Teen was dying in Ep.4 = Heartbreak. Knight of Wands when Alice blasted Agatha in Ep.5 = Impulsiveness.
Teen (Basically Billy): *loses a real one and big sister figure in Alice* That's fucked, right?! Agatha (with Jen and Lilia essentially cosigning her, whether or not they were masking their emotions): It is what it is. Teen (Basically Billy): Oh. Okay. I see. Keep that same energy.
I do believe Agatha when she says she couldn’t control it and didn’t mean to kill Alice, it’s like the second she was hit a switch was flipped. But, I do think once she figured out who teen is she purposefully baited him into attacking her, though she clearly didn’t expect him to not directly hit her with his magic
i feel like when teen said being a witch “wasn’t for him” in that moment it reminded her of wanda saying she’s “not a witch, never casted spells, and no one taught her magic” in wandavision hence the “your so much like your mother” i feel like specifically in THAT moment she realized it was wanda’s son. It seems like agatha opens up and then puts up a wall of being this horrible person to everyone because that’s what she’s always been to everyone even her mom, so when teen confronts her her reaction seems like a odd shift
Agatha can't control it when she's absorbing powers. Whether its because it automatically tries to take it all or because the feeling is so euphoric, she gets carried away, still needs to be told. So, just like so many of us, she puts up a wall to guard herself. Like she's been called bad or the villian so much that she just leans into it. That's why we see that switch flip with Teen, she's hurt that he didn't believe her.
Alice was the only good person there, billy cared about her. Other witches was ready to sacrifice Agatha for finishing the road. This is why Billy attacked them. They were bad.
I think that’s a oversimplification of what’s happening teen is emotional I don’t think he attacked them cuz they are bad Jen and lilia have done nothing spiteful and malicious like Agatha and rio
@@stancinatti8198he attacked them because. Jen said “We are all here for power only. doesn’t matter if shes dead or not.” Then Lilia says “Death comes for us all” Meaning she didn’t do much to care that alice died.. He cares for alice & they failed the empathy check… so he kicked them off. the trial said to complete the trial without agatha hence billy kicking them out. Emotional or not….
15:16 I think the reason agatha started talking down to teen again at the end was probably a combination of her feeling betrayed by him not listening to her and her finding out he was wanda's son, not because she was still possessed
At first I didn't understand why billy threw Jen and Lilia into the mud is because he realised they weren't really any better in the end. Alice was really the only one that was truly nice to teen and of all the witches Alice was teens best friend. Alice was the best of all of them and in the end was the real hero. She was the one that remembered Sharon Davis she was the one who tried to protect Agatha from her mother she protected Lilia and Jen from the curse she has always been the hero and friend to teen. And when she died the best he got from Jen and Lilia was them saying there all power hungry and death comes for us all as they continue on the road side by side with Agatha. Now obviously there not actually dead if I had to guess teen somehow reverses it to prove a point to Agatha that he dosent kill people for his own agenda.
I thing it’s oversimplified to be like “yeah she’s evil” if u ever find a POS parent figure saying something about their kid, NEVER believe them. Her bitch ass mom saying she’s just evil, point blank, should be the biggest hint that she isn’t. If a kid is told they’re evil from day 1 and then treated like a villain their whole life for powers they seemingly can’t control and are addicted to, they’re gonna turn out really fucked up.
Just because you are a village doesn’t mean you can’t be a complex character. Like why is she that way. And what makes people a villain. Also Billy and Wanda are hypocrites. That’s why she said you just like your mother.
No she isn't. She tried to take power from an insane supervillain that had enslaved a town and was prophesized to destroy the world. Agatha might be rude about it, but she's a hero.
In agatha's defense she made it clear to the one lady that ppl are safe as long as they don't blast her. Seems like she actually can't control it (maybe mephisto and her mom made some weird deal) and her "evil face" seems to just be a mask she puts on
@@wxywawjy626 yeah I’m thinking her mother may have made a deal with him so that she can have a kid (which would be a great yin-yang for how Agatha made a deal in exchange for her kid) and in this deal Agatha was born cursed or with evil tendencies against her better judgment. I mean, look at how she was so protective of Teen during the wine tasting and when he was wounded. Sure, she may have thought that was possibly her kid but that still shows she’s truly capable of selflessness or immense love when it all comes down to it. I’m so happy they made this series because I really want to know her entire lore in the MCU
the reason why Agatha stopped draining Alice is because of two reasons She heard her son's name & she found out that Teen's name isn't Nicholas Scratch because if it is he wouldn't have able to say it Agatha solved this question in her mind that if that's not Nicholas then that would be Wanda's son and then when they finished the trial, the reason why Agatha called teen "pet" was just to mock him btw Alice attacked Agatha's body to expel Evanora
My theory is agathas power is an automatic defense mechanism, when her sons powers manifested he accidentally hit her and she drained/killed him and Rio (if she's actually death) took his soul. So that's why she snapped out of it when she heard his name.
I believe its meant to show Teen and Agatha have alot in common. She can't control her power and 8t takes over her, in the final moments he shuts down and his power takes over him. They do harm not out of actually always seeking it but just as a part of their nature. I think this whole time he was drawn to Agatha since Wanda is gone because he needed someone to relate to and help him figure out how to control his power instead of being controlled by it. Also, Rio is noticeable missing and few people pickup on fact that she likely knew what would happen and observed to collect whatever bodies there may be. Also as potentially agent of death or death it makes sense why she doesn't like ghosts they wouldn't be apart of life and death cycle just abnormalities. Next trial is probably Teen's I don't think everyone is dead yet, just out of the way for now.
I’m pretty sure Agatha called him pet or something similar before. She called him her familiar ToTo once and also called him pet when Lillia asked who Teen was when they first went to convince her to walk the witches road.
Agatha was acting evil at the end because once she finally realised who son she was looking at, all that hatred she has for Wanda overpowered any care she had for teen
Nah, if it did, she would have tried to kill him She put up a wall necause just like everyone else, he assumed she was evil so she started playing the role again
@@hadrianhexe9603 I believe this can also be true, but also Agatha wouldn’t be able to kill him because she don’t really got magic like that, that magic she got from Alice is not enough and also I’m pretty sure the other two would have not let her just kill teen, also it makes sense for her to act cruel towards him as soon as she figured it out and that’s why she said your so much like your mother
I agree that the ending was very confusing, and all in service of a reveal. I think that episode flew by way too quickly, and we could've sat with the characters more, because the motivations get really muddied very abruptly.
Magic to agatha is like an addiction , so think of it this way, shes a junkie and like most junkies, it's super difficult to control their impulses and agatha was trapped for 3 years so imagine the withdrawals she was experiencing. She said herself she can't control it. Also the coven failed as a whole because they never bothered to help agatha through her trial when Agatha helped them through theirs.
I think Agatha told the teen he was just like his mother to bait him into attacking her so she could drain his power. But instead of directly attacking her he possessed the other witches to throw in the mud.
exactly, like ppl keep saying she stopped caring. Like, no, they both clearly care but Teen just lost his froend and Agatha is likely putting a mask up as a trauma reponse due to being demonized
Im assuming once Agatha figured out who he was her attitude towards him changed and since she figured it out the sigil wasnt needed anymore and lifted and he remembered who she was as well and well they dont got the best history together 😅
Agatha, like Wanda, doesn’t know how to act when she has power. So I honestly believe she doesn’t know how to stop when she takes it. But I think it also gives her a split personality, which is why this Agatha’s personality isn’t as dark or ruthless as in WandaVision. Also, Teen got rid removed all of them from the road because, as a coven, none cared about what happened to Alice and brushed it off for the sake of their prize. They were already so quick to turn on Agatha in her time of need.
@@Jordan-gp3mj right. Agatha might not be able to stop the passive magic drain because she was begging her coven to teach her how back in Salem, coupled with the fact that she is an addict. It would be like forcing heroin into the VEINS of a recovering addict then wondering why they grab for more. Also, they failed their trial there, so the road sent them Up instead of Down the road (attic ladder going up where ALL the other doors led down) because as Billy said earlier, "a coven shares blessing AND BURDENS alike" meaning to pass this trial, the coven had to accept that by joining Agatha, they shoulder the burden of he twisted past as well. They failed because they splintered the coven and abandoned her despite sharing her burden.
The "ages 3 and up" thing was actually hilarious because if you think about it, Billy is technically 3 years old in canon - Wanda created him 3 years ago, at least in the Wandavision universe. And I'm thinking that Agatha isn't able to always control her siphoning powers. Like she's the Rogue of the non-X-Men universe. But instead of locking herself away from people, she's like "fuck it, I'll roll with it." I also have to wonder if she traded her son away when she realized he was magical to protect him lest she accidentally suck his magical force out of him and kill him.
Nothing took over her when talking to Teen at the end. She was trying to be honest and a little vulnerable with Teen but he was being very short with her, so she basically said *ok fine you think you know me. You think Agatha Harkness is all business and evil? Fine here you go*...and she put her Agatha Harkness facade back on.
I really think that Agatha can't control the power absorption. She even tells people she can't control it and they blast her anyway. Just based off how her mother treats her, it does show that maybe even with her old coven they never taught her how to control her power so she turned to dark magic to try and learn how to.
Only tthing is..his age...doesnt make sense...if he turns out to not actually be Billy (didnt say his name yet) that would be the biggest plot twist ever because it seemed like EVERYBODY knew he was Billy. I hope we are all wrong. Hope Marvel somehow fools everybody just like in WandaVision
@@10th_letta 3 years ago there was a car accident near westview. my guess is they aren't going full reincarnation like the comics and saying his soul went to the closest available host since their bodies were what was tied to the hex. kid in the accident probably died and billy's soul was like ope here's a free body yoink.
@10th_letta In the comics, Wiccan is the reincarnated son of SW. It's probably hinted that Billy Maximoff's soul is reincarnated into this wiccan being The teen.
I don't think she was possessed at the end. Because normally when witches have their magic, they can sense other people just as how agatha found wanda in westview. So when she took Alice's power, I think she figured out and sensed Wanda's magic or type of magic in him. And that's when she started smiling and acting weird cause she finally figured it out....that he lied about not having powers or acting like a newbie...just as how wanda acted like she was not doing anything wrong in westview.and she also called him her pet in episode 2 I think so its not the first...thats just what I got from this episode
This is why they should have watched WandaVision again as a refresher 🙄they clearly have forgotten who Agatha is the evil manipulative narcissist back stabbing witch that she is so much so that when she returns to her old ways they get confused and say shes still possessed like girl that’s not it This is who Agatha is that’s why teen said it’s always about power for you and even if she can’t control it she’s even alive since the 1600s and all that time she hasn’t tried how to learn how to stop herself I call BS she does not want to stop period she wants power and that’s why her mom said girl I should have killed you Because she’s killed so many witches so many innocent people look at how she manipulated Sharon Davis onto the witches road and got her killed and now she’s killed Alice who tried to save her there’s no excuse And yes that’s billy aka Wiccan Wanda’s son he has a crown like his mother because his powers as well as Tommy’s come from her and the mind stone so that’s why he’s got a crown as well If you look at the hand movement of teen he moves it just like Wanda does Teen probably through them off the road because he was done with Agatha especially after trying to give her the benefit of the doubt that she could be good but no just like before when she tried to kill them and steal Wanda’s power Agatha has not changed even after these 3 yrs Also what there forgetting is her behaving like this is not out of nowhere this entire season shes had no power at all so she’s been not as nasty not as evil because she’s known She needed these witches to get onto the road to get her power back but she’s always known she’s was gonna steal there magic and leave them dead on the road if she has walked the road before I’m sure that’s what happened them but that’s a big if I’m still not sure if she has in fact walked the road before Also she has called him pet before throughout the series and it’s always made him mad if you really pay attention he didn’t like being called that because it’s disrespectful as it’s not his name and she’s not his friend none of them are his friends and in that moment teen realizes for good that these witches don’t give a damn who they hurt or cause pain as long as they get there power And understand I’m not saying Lilia and Jennifer are on the same evil level as Agatha they are not but the way they walked out and was basically like yeah she killed alice accident or not we are getting our power back Accepting the evil things that are done if it means they get what they want That is what a villain is
Anyone else think Agatha's mom is evil as hell and purposefully was baiting other witches to blast her in Agatha's body to get them killed and destroy Agatha's coven?
Sheera thought they couldn't use magic on the Road. You're thinking of the Spirit Realm in Avatar. They went on the road to get *back* their power. Remember how Jen made a healing portion with her power?
It was established in WandaVision that Agatha can sense magic, which how she found the HEX in the first place. Presumably when Wanda took all of Agatha’s powers at the end of WandaVision, her “magic sense” was deactivated. But after getting power by draining Alice, her magic sense was working again. She could feel the magic in Teen, and realized it was similar to Wanda’s magic (like mother like son). Which is why Agatha tried to antagonize Teen and force him to use his powers on her so she could absorb them. But he is a smart boy, using Jennifer and Lillia to deal with her instead.
all the animals so far are one of the Salem 7: rat, snake, owl, fox, raven or crow, wolf or coyote, and the bug... I've heard it's a cicada but instead of just one, she seems to change into a swarm of them. Also, the look on Agatha's face when Alice blasts her with power, makes me think she could control it, but she didn't want to... she kinda smiles like "Yes, FINALLY!!!" and then she reaches out to take Alice's power and by the time Teen says Nicholas Scratch, Agatha is standing there with her arms wide enjoying the sensation of absorbing Alice's power. But that's just me.
agatha had suspensions that teen is her son or atleast wanda's. but when teen discovered Nicholas's name and said it out loud, the sigil did not appear. so agatha on that point knew that teen is def not her son, so that constructed her thoughts of him being wanda's. on the other hand, agatha's instinct is to take power, but she can't control it yet. she was guilty right after it but when she realized she now has magic, that took over her knowing she can probably finish the road now all by herself. that's why she's suddenly more confident than usual.
It's a yes and a no, I think. Think of it like an addiction. When she says she can't control it, that's technically "true" from her point of view. Once the connection is formed she can't really stop herself, but she still reached for that power "willingly." Whenever an addict says "I can't stop" that always really means "I can't stop MYSELF"
Rio already told Agatha "he's not yours." So him being her son was already known. But him saying Nicholas Scrath also helped her realize who it was. Can't wait for a Rio and Wiccan fight 😤
No she's called him a pet a couple of times before as well. AND they call him teen too. They just say teen more often than pet. It depends on her mood really it felt. I think she was goading him into it like she was doing to the witches. She said it to piss him off and possibly awaken the power and it backfired. If you noticed he had the other two drag her off the road instead of blasting her with his power so she couldn't absorb it. THEN he blasted the other two since they can't do that
We also have to remember that they literally broke all the rules that the ouija board said not to do. Don’t talk over each other, they kept doing that the whole episode. Don’t play alone, teen was playing alone when it was reading “Nicholas scratch”. Don’t talk about death, they asked what death wanted. And don’t take your hand off the planchette which is exactly what Agatha did hence why Agatha’s mom spirit got released. Also remember that the ballad said “with coven true, glory shall be thine” meaning they have to work together as a coven to help the person in trial to get through it. Not everyone was working together to help Agatha since they were willing to sacrifice and punish Agatha instead of helping her pass the trial. These things could be the reason why someone in the coven had died instead of them all passing it.
8:57 LMAOO LUPA IS SO STUPID, that P-U-M-P-U-M sent mee 😂 *"Nuh tek yuh hands off di board or di ghosts come fi yuh pumpum"* 💀 Imagine being on a ouja board and the spirits fuckin' around cuz they want some cheeks or they're gonna haunt your ass
My brain takes me to in Wanda Vision when Agatha murdered the dog and the kids said you can bring back the dead. Agatha goes “You can do that?” I think Agatha wanted to see if Wanda could bring bring back her son.
I don't think Agatha can control her absorbing when he' blasted power. Maybe she really can't control it and part of her journey i learning how to. Also I don't think Agatha trial is over.
I think she can turn it off but she's never had to, so she never actually learned how to turn it off. Or it could be a drug analogy like once she gets a taste of someone's magic it's so hard to stop.
Also... From all the stuff that happened in Agents of Shield and with Wanda when she got the book. It corrupts So obviously that's probably a factor to everything that's been happening
So much happened in those final minutes
Earthly and Divine might be next.
Wiccan is that what happened
Agatha wasn't possessed, Agatha is nice when she's weak, but she became her real self the moment she got some power back. That was just Agatha being Agatha.
Mephisto = Mr Shart!!! 💩😂
Come on guys, you are not reacting to "KILL" ... Seriously 😒
Remember that if teen really was Agatha’s son, he wouldn’t have been able to say Nick’s name because of the spell. So to Agatha, that proves that he is in fact NOT her son.
If the sigil was broken, then he would have been able to say they name. But when Agatha heard her son's pleading for her to stop, then she knew for sure.
@@brandyanderson3522rio also said this before, "that boy isnt yours." ALL the more confirmation of billy and not agatha's son.
and rio said "he is not yours"
some people where saying that since Teen said Agatha's son's name, it made her realize that teen isn't her son since she was able to hear him say it - so she kind of put together that if Teen isn't her son, he had to be Wanda's
@@typing_2lip that’s interesting. I hadn’t thought of that.
I mean makes sense
You just found out Your enemys son has been with you this whole time yet didnt think nothing of it? Didnt feel betrayed or threatened at all? You just troll him and walk away? Somethings fishy. The title of the show is "agatha all along" for a reason so i cant wait to see how this all unfolds. Has she been trolling the entire show somehow?? Hmmm.
@@10th_lettatrolling her archenemy's child seems precisely in character for her
Yeah, Teen lost Agatha's "good side" from then on since he confronted her. Agatha has called Teen "pet" before when she first found him and went to meet Lilia ("he is my pet"). She was just being spiteful and dismissive when Teen called her out. The same thing happened when Teen was healing at the end of episode 4 and asked Agatha about her son; a topic she just does not want to talk about.
The crown on Billy's head is supposed to resemble Wanda's, but also to pay homage to his comic look where he wore a headpiece that looked sort of like a crown.
Remember, in Wandavision, when Agatha was on the stake and trying to get killed by her coven and mom, she was pleading with them saying that she can’t control her absorption power and to not blast her. She even pleaded to them saying they should teach her to control it, but she didn’t listen. So Agatha saying now that she couldn’t control killing Alice is very real in my opinion
I wonder how Wanda took her power without kiIIing her, I know it's about power but Agatha should learn that.
@@twoll5688 Chaos magic. Super powerful.
@@twoll5688 Well remember too, Wanda was dying. Her face was ending up like Alice in this episode. But it could be that Wanda was also making her runes in Westview, while giving her power to Agatha. So Wanda didn't die because Agatha couldn't use her magic anymore and absorb the rest of her life. Also, Wanda was more powerful than Agatha due to her chaos magic, so that could've played a rool.
@@itsmelancholiaThat was not real, she manipulated reality in her own body to make it look like she was dying to trick Agatha into thinking she was getting her power
The only "real" bruise she had was on her hands, but once she nullified Agatha's magic with the last rune, that was easy to fix with her power
@@itsmelancholia i think you read that wrong
Notice how the trial exit goes up a ladder instead of going down like the other trials (down slide, down in the piano). They failed the trial
From the lyrics, their suppose to go down, down, down the road, down the witches road. I think Teen helped them by forcing them down the quicksand.
One of the rules for ouija is they must play together but Teen finished it alone.
That moment when Agatha says "Always finish what you started..." My mind went STRAIGHT to Harley Quinn's character The Queen of Fables (Wanda Sykes) INFAMOUS tagline lol "You ALWAYS end the bloodline..."
same im bingeing it rn
She was ruthless.
Since Breaking Bad any similar type of wisdom always reminds me of Mike's line "No more half measures, Walter".
Thank you i knew i wasn't thd only ones
I still love just the random “You should see me in a crown” from Billie Eilish at the end there with the scene of Teen, or Billy as we should probably say now
Used a Billie Eilish song to announce its Billy is cool😂
i don't think you know what random means lol.
Yeah that was everything but random 😂
@@prasathgj oh wait I just realized that thats cool😂
Remember when Lilia is being weird?
Ep2: "Get off me!" was for Episode 4 when she burns. ❌
Ep2: *yelling in the kitchen* might be Ep5 when the spirit was released. ❌
Ep3: "i love you guys" was a continuation of her line in the Ep4 camp fire "you know we hated each other at the beginning but now, i love you guys" ✔️
Ep4: "alice don't" and Ep3: "try to save Agatha" was for Ep5 "Alice don't try to save Agatha" ✔️
Actually Lilia screaming "Get off me ! Comes from mrs. Heart/Davis In episode 3 right before when she goes off the path
Also, Lilia has been calling out different card names "randomly" throughout the show ("Knight of wands", "Three of spades", etc.) I haven't paid attention to that, but I know each card means something in the magick or esoteric world
@@djoscartjknight of wands is alice’s tarot card shown in the promo with a sword and a dragon behind her foreshadowing her death and episode 4, agatha three of spades card
@@djoscartj those are tarot cards, three of pentacles, three of swords, knight of wands.
@@djoscartj Yes, first she calls Three of Pentacles when writing the coven names in Ep.2 = Collaboration. Three of Swords when Agatha thought Teen was dying in Ep.4 = Heartbreak. Knight of Wands when Alice blasted Agatha in Ep.5 = Impulsiveness.
Teen (Basically Billy): *loses a real one and big sister figure in Alice* That's fucked, right?!
Agatha (with Jen and Lilia essentially cosigning her, whether or not they were masking their emotions): It is what it is.
Teen (Basically Billy): Oh. Okay. I see. Keep that same energy.
SOMEONE WHO GETS IT
Agatha All Along?
More like, *Wiccan All The While!*
Bruh😂
@@elizabethp1772 I couldn’t help myself. Well, I mean, I could - but didn’t want to. 😂
I do believe Agatha when she says she couldn’t control it and didn’t mean to kill Alice, it’s like the second she was hit a switch was flipped. But, I do think once she figured out who teen is she purposefully baited him into attacking her, though she clearly didn’t expect him to not directly hit her with his magic
i feel like when teen said being a witch “wasn’t for him” in that moment it reminded her of wanda saying she’s “not a witch, never casted spells, and no one taught her magic” in wandavision hence the “your so much like your mother” i feel like specifically in THAT moment she realized it was wanda’s son. It seems like agatha opens up and then puts up a wall of being this horrible person to everyone because that’s what she’s always been to everyone even her mom, so when teen confronts her her reaction seems like a odd shift
Agatha can't control it when she's absorbing powers. Whether its because it automatically tries to take it all or because the feeling is so euphoric, she gets carried away, still needs to be told.
So, just like so many of us, she puts up a wall to guard herself. Like she's been called bad or the villian so much that she just leans into it. That's why we see that switch flip with Teen, she's hurt that he didn't believe her.
She can control it though she’s just excessive. She can absolutely stop herself
the punishment was undoing the bonds that everyone was starting to form with Agatha and having everyone view her only as the villian again
YES
UK Stranger Things "Pretty Odd Innit" craziest line I heard all day 😭
Alice was the only good person there, billy cared about her. Other witches was ready to sacrifice Agatha for finishing the road. This is why Billy attacked them. They were bad.
I think that’s a oversimplification of what’s happening teen is emotional I don’t think he attacked them cuz they are bad Jen and lilia have done nothing spiteful and malicious like Agatha and rio
@@stancinatti8198 they are not evil like Agatha but they are bad.
@@kennyblack1 how
@@stancinatti8198he attacked them because. Jen said “We are all here for power only. doesn’t matter if shes dead or not.” Then Lilia says “Death comes for us all” Meaning she didn’t do much to care that alice died.. He cares for alice & they failed the empathy check… so he kicked them off. the trial said to complete the trial without agatha hence billy kicking them out. Emotional or not….
@@stancinatti8198 someone explained before me
15:16 I think the reason agatha started talking down to teen again at the end was probably a combination of her feeling betrayed by him not listening to her and her finding out he was wanda's son, not because she was still possessed
She called him "pet" cuz she knew it was wanda's son!!
She also called him pet in episode 2 when meeting Lidia.
@@travistaylor2980 but that time was as a joke, you can tell the tone of her voice at the end of ep 5
What I’m saying
She called him pet to put up a wall because she was hurt
At first I didn't understand why billy threw Jen and Lilia into the mud is because he realised they weren't really any better in the end. Alice was really the only one that was truly nice to teen and of all the witches Alice was teens best friend. Alice was the best of all of them and in the end was the real hero. She was the one that remembered Sharon Davis she was the one who tried to protect Agatha from her mother she protected Lilia and Jen from the curse she has always been the hero and friend to teen. And when she died the best he got from Jen and Lilia was them saying there all power hungry and death comes for us all as they continue on the road side by side with Agatha. Now obviously there not actually dead if I had to guess teen somehow reverses it to prove a point to Agatha that he dosent kill people for his own agenda.
some folks keep forgetting mcu agatha is a villain
right i thing just because show about them does not make them hero and agetha have a long road to walk for redumption
So is Wanda
I thing it’s oversimplified to be like “yeah she’s evil” if u ever find a POS parent figure saying something about their kid, NEVER believe them. Her bitch ass mom saying she’s just evil, point blank, should be the biggest hint that she isn’t. If a kid is told they’re evil from day 1 and then treated like a villain their whole life for powers they seemingly can’t control and are addicted to, they’re gonna turn out really fucked up.
Just because you are a village doesn’t mean you can’t be a complex character. Like why is she that way. And what makes people a villain. Also Billy and Wanda are hypocrites. That’s why she said you just like your mother.
No she isn't. She tried to take power from an insane supervillain that had enslaved a town and was prophesized to destroy the world. Agatha might be rude about it, but she's a hero.
In agatha's defense she made it clear to the one lady that ppl are safe as long as they don't blast her. Seems like she actually can't control it (maybe mephisto and her mom made some weird deal) and her "evil face" seems to just be a mask she puts on
This means Agatha has potential to become an OP being in the MCU, assuming she can collect other witches' powers 🤔
It’s sad because Alice was using a protection spell to try to save Agatha…
Bingo. And you will be proven right by the end of Agatha All Along
@@wxywawjy626 yeah I’m thinking her mother may have made a deal with him so that she can have a kid (which would be a great yin-yang for how Agatha made a deal in exchange for her kid) and in this deal Agatha was born cursed or with evil tendencies against her better judgment. I mean, look at how she was so protective of Teen during the wine tasting and when he was wounded. Sure, she may have thought that was possibly her kid but that still shows she’s truly capable of selflessness or immense love when it all comes down to it. I’m so happy they made this series because I really want to know her entire lore in the MCU
@@djoscartj No
the reason why Agatha stopped draining Alice is because of two reasons
She heard her son's name & she found out that Teen's name isn't Nicholas Scratch because if it is he wouldn't have able to say it
Agatha solved this question in her mind that if that's not Nicholas then that would be Wanda's son
and then when they finished the trial, the reason why Agatha called teen "pet" was just to mock him
btw Alice attacked Agatha's body to expel Evanora
My theory is agathas power is an automatic defense mechanism, when her sons powers manifested he accidentally hit her and she drained/killed him and Rio (if she's actually death) took his soul. So that's why she snapped out of it when she heard his name.
exactlyy
Glad y’all are safe
Are they in Florida? Did not know that. Damn
@@somestuff7876 yep. They live in Florida
I already knew the Wiccan reveal was coming but I still loved it so much! Billie Eilish needle drop for Billy Maximoff was such a good move.
I believe its meant to show Teen and Agatha have alot in common. She can't control her power and 8t takes over her, in the final moments he shuts down and his power takes over him. They do harm not out of actually always seeking it but just as a part of their nature. I think this whole time he was drawn to Agatha since Wanda is gone because he needed someone to relate to and help him figure out how to control his power instead of being controlled by it. Also, Rio is noticeable missing and few people pickup on fact that she likely knew what would happen and observed to collect whatever bodies there may be. Also as potentially agent of death or death it makes sense why she doesn't like ghosts they wouldn't be apart of life and death cycle just abnormalities. Next trial is probably Teen's I don't think everyone is dead yet, just out of the way for now.
I’m pretty sure Agatha called him pet or something similar before. She called him her familiar ToTo once and also called him pet when Lillia asked who Teen was when they first went to convince her to walk the witches road.
mr.shart was truly born this episode 😭
Agatha's powers are a passive that absorb other's magic automatically. She just never learned to stop.
I love lupa but his loading screen icon stay spinning lolol
@@ghostmkc4045 Ayoooo 🤣
Agatha was acting evil at the end because once she finally realised who son she was looking at, all that hatred she has for Wanda overpowered any care she had for teen
Nah, if it did, she would have tried to kill him
She put up a wall necause just like everyone else, he assumed she was evil so she started playing the role again
@@hadrianhexe9603 I believe this can also be true, but also Agatha wouldn’t be able to kill him because she don’t really got magic like that, that magic she got from Alice is not enough and also I’m pretty sure the other two would have not let her just kill teen, also it makes sense for her to act cruel towards him as soon as she figured it out and that’s why she said your so much like your mother
@@damnitzaaron9858 I mean, she had Alice's magic and to her knowledge, Teen was still just a regular teen so i feel like killing him was plausible
They really hit it home there by playing a Billie [Eilish] song the moment that it's revealed that teen is Billy [Maximoff]. Well played.
I agree that the ending was very confusing, and all in service of a reveal. I think that episode flew by way too quickly, and we could've sat with the characters more, because the motivations get really muddied very abruptly.
Magic to agatha is like an addiction , so think of it this way, shes a junkie and like most junkies, it's super difficult to control their impulses and agatha was trapped for 3 years so imagine the withdrawals she was experiencing. She said herself she can't control it. Also the coven failed as a whole because they never bothered to help agatha through her trial when Agatha helped them through theirs.
I think everyone forgets that Agatha is a villain.. so her acting evil at the end is definitely on character for her
I just looked y’all up right now and didint see ep5 yet, then when I scrolled up BAM!! Let’s do this!!🤘
That's fucking Wiccan! Bad ass reveal and they played the billie ellish song. Beautiful!
I’ve been refreshing for this upload for days and just dropped what I was doing to watch.
she called him pet in earlier episodes. Agatha may be the main character but shes absolutely still the antagonist.
I saw some people saying that her absorption was an allegory for drug addiction and she wanted to stop but it gives her like a high
I think Agatha told the teen he was just like his mother to bait him into attacking her so she could drain his power. But instead of directly attacking her he possessed the other witches to throw in the mud.
For sure one of your top uploads yet!
Not really.
Main man really said Strangest Things (the U.K. Version)
17:05 I think it’s as simple as she didn’t like that he was giving her shit, so she got defensive and bit back. Big mistake.
exactly, like ppl keep saying she stopped caring. Like, no, they both clearly care but Teen just lost his froend and Agatha is likely putting a mask up as a trauma reponse due to being demonized
Watched this 🍃 and had to rewatch cause it all went over my head 😭
Like the Queen of fables say: “Always end the blood line.”
Agatha called him teen when she was being dragged away.
P.S. Ay yall should go back to the episodes so far and put together Lilia's random psychic outburst so far. It'll trip yall out a little lol
Agatha was acting to Teen since he already believes she willingly did it, she further makes herself the villain.
Im assuming once Agatha figured out who he was her attitude towards him changed and since she figured it out the sigil wasnt needed anymore and lifted and he remembered who she was as well and well they dont got the best history together 😅
You always keep it interesting!
5:18 "Pretty hard innit" 😭 Lupa's dumb
I thought he said pretty odd innit
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The "pum pum" comment KILLED ME😭😭😭💀
Agatha, like Wanda, doesn’t know how to act when she has power. So I honestly believe she doesn’t know how to stop when she takes it. But I think it also gives her a split personality, which is why this Agatha’s personality isn’t as dark or ruthless as in WandaVision. Also, Teen got rid removed all of them from the road because, as a coven, none cared about what happened to Alice and brushed it off for the sake of their prize. They were already so quick to turn on Agatha in her time of need.
In WandaVision she was dealing with and out of control demigod. That's why she had to be ruthless.
@@Jordan-gp3mj right. Agatha might not be able to stop the passive magic drain because she was begging her coven to teach her how back in Salem, coupled with the fact that she is an addict. It would be like forcing heroin into the VEINS of a recovering addict then wondering why they grab for more.
Also, they failed their trial there, so the road sent them Up instead of Down the road (attic ladder going up where ALL the other doors led down) because as Billy said earlier, "a coven shares blessing AND BURDENS alike" meaning to pass this trial, the coven had to accept that by joining Agatha, they shoulder the burden of he twisted past as well. They failed because they splintered the coven and abandoned her despite sharing her burden.
The "ages 3 and up" thing was actually hilarious because if you think about it, Billy is technically 3 years old in canon - Wanda created him 3 years ago, at least in the Wandavision universe. And I'm thinking that Agatha isn't able to always control her siphoning powers. Like she's the Rogue of the non-X-Men universe. But instead of locking herself away from people, she's like "fuck it, I'll roll with it." I also have to wonder if she traded her son away when she realized he was magical to protect him lest she accidentally suck his magical force out of him and kill him.
Nicholas scratch is agatha's son
Nothing took over her when talking to Teen at the end. She was trying to be honest and a little vulnerable with Teen but he was being very short with her, so she basically said *ok fine you think you know me. You think Agatha Harkness is all business and evil? Fine here you go*...and she put her Agatha Harkness facade back on.
Remember Billy's power set from Wandavision was also blue, where he was able to stop the military via mind control
I really think that Agatha can't control the power absorption. She even tells people she can't control it and they blast her anyway. Just based off how her mother treats her, it does show that maybe even with her old coven they never taught her how to control her power so she turned to dark magic to try and learn how to.
He is Him and we shall be seated
So the best episode is also the shortest episode. Nice
"Mr. Shart" 😂
Is he the third...space/spot/body storage shelf/whatever it's called in Wanda's burial vault from Multiverse of Madness?
Billy Kalpan aka Wiccan is here🔥
Only tthing is..his age...doesnt make sense...if he turns out to not actually be Billy (didnt say his name yet) that would be the biggest plot twist ever because it seemed like EVERYBODY knew he was Billy. I hope we are all wrong. Hope Marvel somehow fools everybody just like in WandaVision
Exactly
@@10th_letta 3 years ago there was a car accident near westview. my guess is they aren't going full reincarnation like the comics and saying his soul went to the closest available host since their bodies were what was tied to the hex. kid in the accident probably died and billy's soul was like ope here's a free body yoink.
@10th_letta In the comics, Wiccan is the reincarnated son of SW. It's probably hinted that Billy Maximoff's soul is reincarnated into this wiccan being The teen.
Watching this episode left me SO CONFUSED yet fascinated by the reveal of Billy
I KNOW it ain't suppose to be the takeaway of the episode but Sasheer/Jennifer Kale got the wagon in the onesie 😂
I don't think she was possessed at the end. Because normally when witches have their magic, they can sense other people just as how agatha found wanda in westview. So when she took Alice's power, I think she figured out and sensed Wanda's magic or type of magic in him. And that's when she started smiling and acting weird cause she finally figured it out....that he lied about not having powers or acting like a newbie...just as how wanda acted like she was not doing anything wrong in westview.and she also called him her pet in episode 2 I think so its not the first...thats just what I got from this episode
Agatha doing the little head spin pretending to be possessed sends me every time 😂😂😂😂
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This is why they should have watched WandaVision again as a refresher 🙄they clearly have forgotten who Agatha is the evil manipulative narcissist back stabbing witch that she is so much so that when she returns to her old ways they get confused and say shes still possessed like girl that’s not it
This is who Agatha is that’s why teen said it’s always about power for you and even if she can’t control it she’s even alive since the 1600s and all that time she hasn’t tried how to learn how to stop herself I call BS she does not want to stop period she wants power and that’s why her mom said girl I should have killed you
Because she’s killed so many witches so many innocent people look at how she manipulated Sharon Davis onto the witches road and got her killed and now she’s killed Alice who tried to save her there’s no excuse
And yes that’s billy aka Wiccan Wanda’s son he has a crown like his mother because his powers as well as Tommy’s come from her and the mind stone so that’s why he’s got a crown as well
If you look at the hand movement of teen he moves it just like Wanda does
Teen probably through them off the road because he was done with Agatha especially after trying to give her the benefit of the doubt that she could be good but no just like before when she tried to kill them and steal Wanda’s power Agatha has not changed even after these 3 yrs
Also what there forgetting is her behaving like this is not out of nowhere this entire season shes had no power at all so she’s been not as nasty not as evil because she’s known
She needed these witches to get onto the road to get her power back but she’s always known she’s was gonna steal there magic and leave them dead on the road if she has walked the road before I’m sure that’s what happened them but that’s a big if I’m still not sure if she has in fact walked the road before
Also she has called him pet before throughout the series and it’s always made him mad if you really pay attention he didn’t like being called that because it’s disrespectful as it’s not his name and she’s not his friend none of them are his friends and in that moment teen realizes for good that these witches don’t give a damn who they hurt or cause pain as long as they get there power
And understand I’m not saying Lilia and Jennifer are on the same evil level as Agatha they are not but the way they walked out and was basically like yeah she killed alice accident or not we are getting our power back
Accepting the evil things that are done if it means they get what they want
That is what a villain is
Anyone else think Agatha's mom is evil as hell and purposefully was baiting other witches to blast her in Agatha's body to get them killed and destroy Agatha's coven?
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Sheera thought they couldn't use magic on the Road. You're thinking of the Spirit Realm in Avatar. They went on the road to get *back* their power. Remember how Jen made a healing portion with her power?
It was established in WandaVision that Agatha can sense magic, which how she found the HEX in the first place.
Presumably when Wanda took all of Agatha’s powers at the end of WandaVision, her “magic sense” was deactivated.
But after getting power by draining Alice, her magic sense was working again.
She could feel the magic in Teen, and realized it was similar to Wanda’s magic (like mother like son).
Which is why Agatha tried to antagonize Teen and force him to use his powers on her so she could absorb them.
But he is a smart boy, using Jennifer and Lillia to deal with her instead.
Agatha likes kids and doesn't kill them.
all the animals so far are one of the Salem 7: rat, snake, owl, fox, raven or crow, wolf or coyote, and the bug... I've heard it's a cicada but instead of just one, she seems to change into a swarm of them.
Also, the look on Agatha's face when Alice blasts her with power, makes me think she could control it, but she didn't want to... she kinda smiles like "Yes, FINALLY!!!" and then she reaches out to take Alice's power and by the time Teen says Nicholas Scratch, Agatha is standing there with her arms wide enjoying the sensation of absorbing Alice's power.
But that's just me.
agatha had suspensions that teen is her son or atleast wanda's. but when teen discovered Nicholas's name and said it out loud, the sigil did not appear. so agatha on that point knew that teen is def not her son, so that constructed her thoughts of him being wanda's.
on the other hand, agatha's instinct is to take power, but she can't control it yet. she was guilty right after it but when she realized she now has magic, that took over her knowing she can probably finish the road now all by herself. that's why she's suddenly more confident than usual.
playing w/ your pum pum board is crazy! lol
2:39 Queen of Fables: “ALWAYS FINISH THE *MF BLOODLINE!!!”* 😂😂😂
It's a yes and a no, I think. Think of it like an addiction. When she says she can't control it, that's technically "true" from her point of view. Once the connection is formed she can't really stop herself, but she still reached for that power "willingly." Whenever an addict says "I can't stop" that always really means "I can't stop MYSELF"
I love the Billie for Billy Kaplan lol
Rio already told Agatha "he's not yours." So him being her son was already known. But him saying Nicholas Scrath also helped her realize who it was. Can't wait for a Rio and Wiccan fight 😤
This episode had me singing.....Quija are you wit me! Dear Mr. Quija, I wanna know my future. Will I of murda, of bloody murda? Come, come again.
Yall are green to marvel clearly
They played Wanda’s theme from MoM before the crown appears
I love lupa and sheeran intros
No she's called him a pet a couple of times before as well. AND they call him teen too. They just say teen more often than pet. It depends on her mood really it felt. I think she was goading him into it like she was doing to the witches. She said it to piss him off and possibly awaken the power and it backfired.
If you noticed he had the other two drag her off the road instead of blasting her with his power so she couldn't absorb it. THEN he blasted the other two since they can't do that
The ladies reaction at the end so funny 😂😂😂😂
We also have to remember that they literally broke all the rules that the ouija board said not to do. Don’t talk over each other, they kept doing that the whole episode. Don’t play alone, teen was playing alone when it was reading “Nicholas scratch”. Don’t talk about death, they asked what death wanted. And don’t take your hand off the planchette which is exactly what Agatha did hence why Agatha’s mom spirit got released. Also remember that the ballad said “with coven true, glory shall be thine” meaning they have to work together as a coven to help the person in trial to get through it. Not everyone was working together to help Agatha since they were willing to sacrifice and punish Agatha instead of helping her pass the trial. These things could be the reason why someone in the coven had died instead of them all passing it.
8:57 LMAOO LUPA IS SO STUPID, that P-U-M-P-U-M sent mee 😂 *"Nuh tek yuh hands off di board or di ghosts come fi yuh pumpum"* 💀 Imagine being on a ouja board and the spirits fuckin' around cuz they want some cheeks or they're gonna haunt your ass
He is Billy Maximoff. If you remembered The season finale of WandaVision. Billy has a blue magic.
check out “Marvel Zombies”, it would be a perfect fit.
My brain takes me to in Wanda Vision when Agatha murdered the dog and the kids said you can bring back the dead. Agatha goes “You can do that?” I think Agatha wanted to see if Wanda could bring bring back her son.
I don't think Agatha can control her absorbing when he' blasted power. Maybe she really can't control it and part of her journey i learning how to. Also I don't think Agatha trial is over.
I think she can turn it off but she's never had to, so she never actually learned how to turn it off. Or it could be a drug analogy like once she gets a taste of someone's magic it's so hard to stop.
Sheera wearing a Bando Stone shirt is crazy
I wonder if when someone blasts Agatha, it causes her to compulsively start absorbing their power. Like a form of magical addiction maybe?
Also... From all the stuff that happened in Agents of Shield and with Wanda when she got the book. It corrupts
So obviously that's probably a factor to everything that's been happening
Billy (Wiccan) like his mother just in blue👌
Finally my favorite comic book hero is among us 😭💙💙👑