he's so inconsistent lol, sometimes he says something genuinely hilarious ('I get to work for the government!') but then he says som dumb long-winded 'badassitron' shit and you realise you're watching a kids film lol
It's sad when you realize Alpha Trion was looking at the 4 of them like he's looking at his grandchildren and wondering who took out their hearts from there bodies. He was so confused and saddened.
Better be glad it was Alpha Trion who saw that and not Prima, Solus or Megatronus. Those three will fuck a Sentinel up after seeing that shit. Prima: "ABOMINATION! WHO HAS COMMITTED SUCH EVIL! I SHALL SMITE THEE!" Solus: "Oh no, my poor babies. Who did this to you, I'M GONNA SLAG THEM!" Megatronus: "What sorry [CENSORED] Piece of [CENSORED] traitor did this? And how can I [CENSORED]?"
Not to mention, since AT usually has precognition due to the Covenent and the Quill, he also knows what’s going to happen with these 4. But since it’s destiny, he won’t do anything to change D’s course
@redandrit2105 I was always more of a Solus guy. She's honestly pretty cool. Plus, she oddly works really well as this explanation for why there are female cybertronians.
The trailers did this film so dirty. It's a shame it's box office is so low. Hopefully streaming and toy sales are enough for them to make a full trilogy. We need it.
you can tell they didnt really believe in it after "Fans" didnt like the fact that it was gonna be animated. Production companies need to learn when to listen to fans and not to, but thats tough. They need to fire whoever did the trailer tho lol
Because you spam this comment so badly like you wanna prove a point... No, stop blaming their marketing skills because nobody cares abt transformers. People don't wanna see another transformers movie anymore especially when it is a slop like it regularly does. Like the old transformers movie before the Bayformers, maybe just realize that nobody wanted to see it......
Optimus tried to stop Megatron from killing Sentinel not because he didn't deserve it, but because he didn't want him to kill someone who was no longer a threat
Because he knew that him will get lost himself in the rage and violence, which he did, also and just for everyone to know, in most of the franchise continuities, the war between Autobots and Decepticons is always Megatron's fault, his rage and ambition turn into pure madness, which becomes even more critical when Unicron turns him into Galvatron, if this new version of the character goes into that route, then i think is safe to say that there's no salvation for the transformer once know as D-16, from miner slave to revolutionary dictator warrior to just slave (for Unicron) again and then into madbot (madman) after Unicron is destroyer by Optimus successor, Rodimus Prime.
@Bionickpunk there's a difference, though. Sentinel needed to go through trial. Be sentenced to servitude as punishment for what he did. Then, when he's no longer needed, execution. Just simply killing him is quick and gives him an easy way out. At that point, Megatron was only trying to kill him because he was mad. Then, after that, he tried to kill Bee and Elita. Lupa even pointed out how he was just lashing out at Optimus in the final fight, not even thinking about what he's doing. If Optimus was actually wrong, Megatron wouldn't have been a thing. He would've stopped after he accidentally shot Optimus. Help him up and realized what he was doing was going overboard.
@Bionickpunk Sentinel did need to die, I agree. But, his fate should have been decided by their justice system, be it life imprisonment with no possibility of parole or the death sentence.
@Bionickpunk If you really think Orion was going to let Sentinel walk away, you're crazy. All of iacon knew he was a traitor. If Orion didn't take him to trial, the mob would have likely killed Sentinel himself. It was just D being selfish as always. D did this to himself, not orion. All the other bots were under the same system and suffered the same way. Yet only D chose to go this far. Orion tried to save his best friend. It's so sad how so many people side with Megatron even after he is prepared to be a full villain and blame Orion. Megatron was and is in the wrong. It was already over. He was going to carry out an unnecessary execution so he could have revenge. Then, immediately become another sentinel. Thank Primus Optimus Prime showed up to stop him.
@@Retrovorious The Bay films had him rip Sentinel’s face off and split Megatron’s in two. Off all the criticisms I’ve seen the Bay movies get, complaining that Optimus was a pacifist is just unfounded.
@@atharvawaikar9730 I never said that he was a pacifist in Bay films. I’m saying the reactors are confused about how Optimus prime is trying to prevent Megatron from killing Sentinel in this film because how willing he was to kill in bay films.
@@atharvawaikar9730 you should also take into account the different timeline those wars were... This movie is not Year 1, it's literally day 1 of the war, where in the Bayverse, it's been countless hundreds of years, where Optimus has already lost a lot, and again he is leading a war against enemies with heavy hand, and the only way to deal with a heavy hand, is with a heavier hand.
Ngl, I don’t think Orion cares if Sentinel lived. I feel like it’s more so him trying to pull D out of a bigger fit of rage like he saw continuously escalate throughout the movie.
This! Orion doesn’t care about Sentinel (he helped drive a train at him) but he cares about D and knew where things were going Also it was over. Sentinel lost and it was up to the people to decide what to do with him. Not D
I saw it more as, lets execute him via a court of law rather than an extrajudicial killing. From Pax's point of view, they needed to be better. But that is just me.
@@kengvue1699 Sentinel deserves consequences for all he's done and caused. no one's saying otherwise; D-16's feelings of anger are even understandable. but a public and graphic execution doesn't actually change anything at this point. it would just be murder for D's own personal vengeance. which would leave him hollow at best, and out of control at worst all the red flags were there from even before he got his transformation cog. it just gets more apparent once he gains the ability to do something about it
@@MrSatern123When he's banished. There aren't any tears, but you can tell it's the cybertronian equivalent from the look in his eyes and his voice breaking.
"I'm done saving you." That moment was so chilling. I knew D-16's turn had to happen, but I was still stunned in that moment. Brian Tryee Henry was amazing.
can they just be happy in this continuity? In EVERY verse they suffer. Even in TFP in the OG version of "Stronger, Faster" Ratchet was gonna go for a low blow of mentioning Elita's death along with Cliffjumper and Prime was going to deck him in the face for it. I do wish they had kept the line of "where's Elita now?" but they shouldn't have Optimus hit his subordinate. I think him STARTING to, like raising his fist, then stopping then confining Ratchet to base would've been perfect. Too many people complain that TFP Optimus doesn't emote (his optics do the talking for him), so this would've been a good compromise; show people that he DOES feel but he just keeps his emotions under wraps. He HAS to. He can't let himself get compromised because then that's how mistakes are made. When you make it personal.
The advertisements did this movie so much injustice. This movie was great. It let sad moments be sad, funny moments be funny, and it was just a well rounded origin to the stories we all know.
I'm genuinely curious wtf the marketing team was thinking. I saw the trailer and thought this was gonna be some childish cash grab slop. But it's the greatest transformers media I've seen to date (haven't watched much more than bay films and the last two movies)
@@chieffridge5588You should watch Transformers Prime the 3d cartoon series with 3 seasons that shows the entire Earth chronicles up until the revival of Cybertron. The autobots and Megatron were amazing in that entire show.
Every new detail I discover about this movie is further proof that the people who made it love the Transformers franchise from the bottom of their hearts
Orion wasnt trying to save Sentinel, he wanted to save D-16 from becoming what he was destined to be, like Optimus said in one of the bay films, Megatron will never stop at one, right after killing Sentinel his next order was basically "now everyone who followed him".
@@AgntFL then anyone that got in his way, so if you for whatever reason still liked sentinel, he wanted you dead, and if you thought that was a bit too far, youre on the list too.
Additionally, Megatron was not in the right mindset as he prepared to kill Sentinel. Upon discovering the truth about Sentinel and realizing that his entire life had been a lie-along with receiving a cog for the first time-he began to lose control, succumbing to his anger, hatred, and desire for revenge against Sentinel for everything he had done to him. While it is true that Sentinel is a villain who deserves punishment for his crimes, Megatron wasn't seeking justice for anyone else; he was solely focused on his desire for retribution.
4:20 This was the funniest joke in the movie. I laughed so hard I had side stitches. 55:21 The issue isn't killing Sentinel. Orion probably believes that Sentinel deserves to die. Orion and D wanted to bring social change to Cybertron, and they succeeded. But by killing Sentinel after the truth was out, it went from social change to a tyrannical seize for power. Killing Sentinel wasn't the issue, it was publicly executing him.
Exactly, Megatron using his power to kill one leader to become the next is exactly what sentinel did and is nothing but moving from one dictator to the next. Sentinel didn't deserve to live, but Megatron shouldn't have killed him in a show of power.
@@LateBlossomingyou'll see Megatron also doesn't stop at killing Sentinel, he says he'll make everyone who stood with Sentinel pay and starts tearing apart the crowd. It's clear his anger and lust for revenge has spiraled into general violence and terror aimed towards the Cybertronian populace in the form of suspicion for collusion, which he uses as a justification for his destruction.
Throughout the whole movie, not once did I feel like D-16 wanted what Orion wanted, you know what I mean? I felt what you said about change is mostly what Orion wanted, and D-16 was just all in his spark
oh so like Primus was healing himself again this whole Cybertron is Primus thing is so cool got first intruduced to it in Transformers Cybertron glad its a main stay now
Transformers One did the impossible job of not only setting up Optimus but establishing why Megatron respects him as a fighter and leader. Other transformers shows has him say “Optimus is many things a fool is not one of them” and “Those who underestimate Optimus are doomed to lose to him”
@@royalreptile923 I got chills three times honestly. First time when D said "I. Got. It.", second when his optics turned orange with the high guard, third time wit the I'm done saving you. Amazing movie, 10/10
I like how this movie gave us a reason why Starscream’s voice sounded the way it does. For some reason, I imagined that Sentinel was almost to do the same to Megatron to give him the G1 voice 😅.
I would love to get a Starscream origin movie if it's executed as well as TF1. Interesting character across multiple continuities + Steve Buscemi = a movie I would pay dollars to see in the theater on opening weekend.
@@davidthirugnanakumar7888I mean its the same as kevin conroy for batman, no one will be as great as cullen, but hemsworth was surprisingly really good
Also wanna point out how its not that optimus was against killing. We literally see him rip a guy in half before megatron is about to shoot sentinel. Optimus was on devious timing this movie 😭
@@kristophersy773 yeah, it isn't even that Optimus doesn't think sentinel deserves to die. Basically he was just thinking more long term. He probably could've worded it better to Megatron before getting shot by sentinel though, not that it would've changed anything imo
I love the contrast about the fact that Megatron looks like he's rise but in reality fallen, by becoming a Monster who just killed his "Brother". Optimus looks like he's falling but instead Rising up as a Hero, who will in the lay down his spark for others, so they can have a better future.
Ngl i never realized that the mines collapsing was Primus actively keeping them from Energon (and the secrets at the core of the planet). That's a REALLY cool detail
@@ribottostudio The Energon they were mining were all being given to the Quintessons, everyone in Iacon was barely getting any, and they weren't even aware of it.
@@ribottostudio Presumably, it was meant to protect the Energon from whatever had killed the Primes(and, logically, the rest of the Cybertronians). If something was strong enough to kill the Primes, it shouldn't be allowed to get to the Energon. So the Energon stops flowing to prevent the outside force from getting it. And then, like antibodies fighting bacteria, fights back against anything digging through to get to the Energon, hence caves closing up and being so dangerous.
@@corneliusquincydavenportic1913 I agree with the first sequel being named of them. But I think the third one should be called "Transformers: Till all are one".
@@franciscopedraza7534 Nah dude, One shall fall would be a good third film if "One Shall Stand" was the sequel. Although, "Til All Are One" would be a great final fourth film. Hell, maybe that could be the one where we remake the orignal 86 film, with more story and better combat and NOT screwing over my boy, Hot Rod. And more Vince DiCola and Stan Bush; maybe working with Brian Taylor
My sister invited me to watch it ngl I was not feeling it after watching the trailer but after watching the actual movie I’m soo glad she did 9/10 movie fr
@tmac731 Personally, with the amount of media poured out on a daily basis, if your first trailer was wack, I'm over it. I know I'm not the only one. I'm not saying it's fair, but rarely do you get a second chance without word of mouth.
The idea of the deceptions name isn't the fact that they want to "decieve everyone". The group calls themselves that as a reminder of what was done to them and all of Cybertron. That's what makes Megatron so tragic. He's literally defined himself by his trauma and loss of hope, from the Megatronus Prime symbol, his name, the use of Megatronus' own T-Cog
It’s fucked how we just got the best transformers movie of our generation and it underperformed because Hollywood doesn’t know how to market fun. This was up there with the original animated movie and it deserved way more credit than it got
i don't think they'll ever match the original purely because they were just like "why don't we give optimus boosters for literally no reason just so we can create the most iconic shot in the franchise?" and so far no one else has been able to commit to that level
@@Hugabugahugabuga story and characters was bad. They do a nonsnesical plot every movie, from the allspark to decepticons on the moon and pyramids, to transformers in nazi germany. Also the design of the decepticons was bland, they all look grey without any color and some look too xenomorphic.
51:39 "The jump was unnecessary!" It's an Easter egg. It's the same pose Optimus Prime had when he transformed and turned the tide in the battle of Autobot City in the 1986 Transformers: The Movie.
1:01:05 you guys do know the autobots and Decepticons didn't actively choose to go to earth considering their main goal was to escape the dying world Cybertron became thanks to the civil war.
Orion was NOT trying to save Sentinel at all. He 100% thinks he deserves to die. He was trying to save D-16. In retrospect, literally took a bullet for D but of course D will see that as a betrayal in itself. Both of them thinks that the other is acting like Sentinel respectively.
From my own observations: Sentinel really did want Orion and D to be Ted Talk motivational speakers for the miners, Dark Wing just went behind his back to toss Orion and D to Sublevel 50. And since Sentinel, Airachnid, and Dark Wing were the last ones to have seen the two, Sentinel was able to make up a story without having make up an alibi.
The thing I found most interesting about this was that Optimus and Megatron were once the opposite of who they grew to be. Optimus was the one that use to break protocol and Megatron only knew to follow it. But once seeing the truth for what it was they had grow and change
26:03 Those transformers aren’t necessarily “robots”, but metal trans-organics (according to the lore, at least) Those plants are probably far harder than they look
To be clear Elita is Optimus’ love interest/girlfriend from the og continuity when we’re shown his past as Orion pax, she is not arcee the more well known bike transformer that you see in the transformers prime cartoon. (Both are bikes and arcee is pink as well just like elita in most of her adaptions besides the prime cartoon)
Sentinel didn’t send them to the scrappile, there’s a lot of evidence against that. He told that lie about Orion being dead only after everything else went down.
This film did an excellent job at showing how D16s turn is essentially a really prolonged mental breakdown. The shock at ATs revelation clearly messed him up, understandably. His agitation, inability to really process what’s happened were all portrayed so well. Optimus tried to save sentinel to stop D16 from further escalating his downward spiral
Elita One (also Elita-One or Elita-1) is a devoted Autobot and powerful warrior, fearless in the face of the enemy, but compassionate to those who need her help. Before she was Elita One, she was the simple manual laborer Ariel, who became a renowned Autobot resistance leader, a female counterpart to Optimus Prime. Elita One leads the Female Autobots in a desperate gamble to keep Cybertron out of the hands of the Decepticons. She is sometimes the wielder of a great special power: the ability to stop time through the creation of a field with a fifty-foot radius around her. Sadly, this ability drains all of her life force and is thus almost assuredly fatal, leaving her to only use it in the most dire of situations. Her chassis is the color of Energon, which is pretty intimidating!
Something to note is that if Optimus were to kill Megs then and there, it would 1.continue the cycle of violence of one tyrant killing another to the eyes of Iacon. and 2. propagate the civil war between the high guard and the miners and Iacon to which a couple of the most important Autobot soldiers don't have their cogs prompting em to lose then and there.
There's so much G1 fanservice, you can spot most of the G1 cast in the miners like Wheeljack, Kupp, Prowl, Ironhide, Sideswipe, etc. also, the unnecessary jump pose Optimus does with the blaster is his iconic G1 pose from the Autobot city battle in the 1986 movie, and ofc he gets the energon ax (which funnily enough, he only ever uses in 1 very early G1 episode).
5:00 Energon is practically everything to them. It's their blood, food, drink, fuel, ammunition, ordnance, and plenty more. And to follow up on 08:10, Energon is very volatile in its raw state, so I don't think it's really more of a self-defense mechanism thing as it's just a very dangerous substance to deal with despite its importance to their lives. 27:45 Unicron is around the same size as Primus/Cybertron. Just so since they're both mortal enemies, not unlike Optimus and Megatron. 43:20 That would be Megatron's signature Fusion Cannon. 46:00 That would be Elita-One. She's mostly well-known since the G1 cartoon and comics as Optimus's girlfriend. 51:36 As odd as that was choreographed, that is Optimus's iconic jump from the G1 movie, which you see him do again in the beginning of Bumblebee. 55:30 It's actually tradition that Optimus has to die at least once in every single Transformers media, whether it's the comics, the cartoons, or the movies. 59:24 It's so funny how Optimus wielded an energon axe in just one episode of the G1 cartoon, which was in the series premiere, and somehow it blew up to become an iconic signature weapon that he would wield in so many other versions.
As you can see throughout the film, Orion isn't against killing in defense or desperation, but he was against killing Sentinel in that moment for three reasons: 1. Sentinel was no longer a threat in the moment and could be captured for a later official trial and either imprisonment or execution 2. He did not want D-16 to succumb to darkness and rage 3. It sends the wrong message to Cybertronians
One cool detail is how Orion kneels down to talk to the miners. He speaks to them like a father yet treats them like equals and respecting their autonomy Also how D fell standing above everybody else and Orion became a prime by falling due to the greater good. One shall stand, One shall fall…
The scene where Optimus rips off the tank cannon and then Megatron takes it back is just so ridiculously fluid idk how that scene alone didn't pack every cinema. What a movie, as soon as I saw ye put his up I just had to see your reaction
Brian Tyree Henry really out did himself with his incredible performance and his deep understanding of Megatron since always wanted to play the villains. Every villain of his and her own Story. D-16 is not only a product of Cybertron’s failed system and takes on Sentinel Prime’s oppression though violent means all the social injustices he had experiences forged his transcendence into Megatron and building up to a rivalry with Orion turned Optimus Prime (due to wanting the same goal of a unified Cybertron but have different viewpoints). But their friendship is doomed since they discovered that shocking realization their leader Sentinel Prime has sold out Cybertron to the Quintessons after betraying his fellow Prime brothers and sisters, and ruled his planet through oppression. D-16 has put too much faith in the system he has held on to until his worldview was shattered that boils up to anger and a personal vengeance after being suffered of the social injustices while Orion still kept his optimism by exposing the truth of Sentinel's corruption. This what makes D-16 a much more of a compelling hero-turned-villain and tragic character in Transformers history. And the rift between two brothers. Both D-16 and Orion both wanted a unified Cybertron but each have different ways to bringing it into fruition.
This movie is one huge love letter to the franchise. So the fact that the marketing was such garbage and that it BARELY broke even on its budget is a crime
I wouldn't be surprised if it was the same incompetent marketing team that handled the Dungeons & dragons movie. They made it look cringe as hell when in fact it wasn't, it seems this movie suffered a similar fate and lost some money for it... Shame
It actually made its budget back, but not much more. So fans need to support it with digital and physical discs to show it’s worth investing in a sequel
@@AgntFL I'm ignorant about how the film industry truly works (personally when I see the amount of some "budgets" it looks more like money laundering or corruption than anything but I digress), but I heard that making back just the budget for the film-making part isn't enough for profit at all..
People like these guys are the reason why most media tend to bash you over the head with plot-points and themes in substitute of subtle story-telling because it does not take a rocket scientist to tell you that D16/Megatron was still wrong by the end of the movie lmfao.
Fun fact the scene after Prime gets his axe is a direct reference to the transformers' revange of the fallen forest fight. The fight scene plays out the exact same way.
Elita-1 was introduced as Optimus' love interest back on Cybertron in the 84 cartoon who he left in charge of Autobot forces while he went to look for other sources of energon after the war drained all of Cybertron. Future adaptations have built on this, often leaving the love interest aspect secondary to making her this hardened warrior who had been fighting a guerilla war back home while Optimus had a relatively easier time on Earth.
I am Megatron! Arise...Optimus Prime! That whole scene of D-16 and Orion transforming into the iconic characters we know and love was amazing. I loved all the cybertronians having their iconic looks. So happy to see you guys reacting to this.
Is anyone pissed off with them just outright agreeing with Megatron? Like sure, the anger is totally justifiable but Megatron murdering Sentinel literally proved that he was no better. Hell he even immediately tried to take over and become a dictator the exact same way Sentinel was
In my own headcanon, Autobots means Autonomous Robots as a way of representing each individuals right to choose their own destiny, while Decepticons refers to the fact they were lied to and won't be lied to ever again. It may not be the intent. but it sounds cool.
To correct a few things; The movie took place over 3 days, this movie is in its own storyline seperate to other media, bee is hinted to lose his voice in the future still, the female autobot in the main 4 is Elita-1, often confused for the usual main female autobot Arcee, which is usually Optimus' girlfriend in most storylines, Alpha Trion was confused for Zeta Prime, and I think that was all for that. The movie was said to get a sequel if the movie did well but unfortunately didn't do to well. Hopefully the merchandise and dvd/streaming/renting gets them there
It's so easy to get lost in the immediate emotion but not realizing the ramification of what you're doing. Megatron wasn't looking for "Justice". He sought his own self satisfaction. A selfish rageful vengeance without regard for who got hurt in the process. Like Sentinel, He selfishly decided for everyone else what he wanted.
The only reason the war was taken to earth was because Megatron poisoned the planet with dark energon. The dark energon was killing Cybertron, so Primus had to shut down the core for millions of years until it can repair itself. Then the Autobots fled on the Ark, the Decepticons followed with the Nemesis Ship aka Trypticon. Then both factions fought while trying to get through a portal, thats when the war made its way to Earth. You have to watch Transformers Prime and Generation 1 to get a better understanding. Also, in other continuity’s Megatron got the name from Gladiator days in Kaon when the crowd started cheering the name. Megatron had every right to start the war, but as it continued he lost his way. And before the war, Starscream use to be a scientist/explorer. Shockwave use to be a doctor for the Kaon Gladiator fights and Soundwave use to work with the council. Soundwave fought Megatron and nearly came out on top, Shockwave is dangerous because he’s smart as fuck and willing to take it far in his experiments.
Loved your reactions. Alpha Trion was voiced by the amazing Laurence Fishburn. The female bot that works with Orion/Optimus is Elita-1. She is a powerful female Autobot who is also Prime's girlfriend and amazing commander. No Megatron killing Sentinel makes him just like Sentinel...and you see Megatron completely loses it...he starts destroying innocents and city too. Primus wanted his people as one...not killing. :) Also, Primus was dormant..he only can communicate at his core. Yes...Primus turned of the energon because he knew Sentinel tried stealing the matrix and took it back. And also from preventing the Quintisons from harvesting Cybertron even more quickly.
Peak fiction!
aquafina???? thats scarlet frieking widow
Not a prequel. Different universe
You should react to Deadpool and wolverine
The new intro theme mix is🔥
Please react to TP 🙏
Bumblebee won't shut up because he spent the entirety of the Michael Bay films unable to speak. He's just making up for lost time.
@@Prowl76 I’m actually the only one happy Bee is talking😂. B not talking was getting annoying over the years… besides Transformers Prime🔥
@@RèLL2470 honestly bumble bee was a great mood during this film
@@danielscott5653 foreal. Especially when Keegan-Micheal Key is the voice of B.
One reason why I don’t want him to lose voice😆🥲
he's so inconsistent lol, sometimes he says something genuinely hilarious ('I get to work for the government!') but then he says som dumb long-winded 'badassitron' shit and you realise you're watching a kids film lol
@@jossecoupe446 foreal 😂
It's sad when you realize Alpha Trion was looking at the 4 of them like he's looking at his grandchildren and wondering who took out their hearts from there bodies. He was so confused and saddened.
Better be glad it was Alpha Trion who saw that and not Prima, Solus or Megatronus. Those three will fuck a Sentinel up after seeing that shit.
Prima: "ABOMINATION! WHO HAS COMMITTED SUCH EVIL! I SHALL SMITE THEE!"
Solus: "Oh no, my poor babies. Who did this to you, I'M GONNA SLAG THEM!"
Megatronus: "What sorry [CENSORED] Piece of [CENSORED] traitor did this? And how can I [CENSORED]?"
Not to mention, since AT usually has precognition due to the Covenent and the Quill, he also knows what’s going to happen with these 4. But since it’s destiny, he won’t do anything to change D’s course
@@b3rz3rk3r9damn I love all of them, specially Megatronus.
@redandrit2105 I was always more of a Solus guy. She's honestly pretty cool. Plus, she oddly works really well as this explanation for why there are female cybertronians.
@b3rz3rk3r9 I wonder what Alchemist's reaction would've been, since he's the one who created T-Cogs if I remember correctly
The trailers did this film so dirty. It's a shame it's box office is so low. Hopefully streaming and toy sales are enough for them to make a full trilogy. We need it.
Whoever was in charge of this movie’s marketing needs to be fired immediately before they hurt another amazing movie
The first trailer was eh but the 2nd trailer was amazing
Nah @@Cs-cp6vo, we gotta seal them mfs in the Prison Realm
you can tell they didnt really believe in it after "Fans" didnt like the fact that it was gonna be animated. Production companies need to learn when to listen to fans and not to, but thats tough. They need to fire whoever did the trailer tho lol
Because you spam this comment so badly like you wanna prove a point...
No, stop blaming their marketing skills because nobody cares abt transformers. People don't wanna see another transformers movie anymore especially when it is a slop like it regularly does. Like the old transformers movie before the Bayformers, maybe just realize that nobody wanted to see it......
Optimus tried to stop Megatron from killing Sentinel not because he didn't deserve it, but because he didn't want him to kill someone who was no longer a threat
Because he knew that him will get lost himself in the rage and violence, which he did, also and just for everyone to know, in most of the franchise continuities, the war between Autobots and Decepticons is always Megatron's fault, his rage and ambition turn into pure madness, which becomes even more critical when Unicron turns him into Galvatron, if this new version of the character goes into that route, then i think is safe to say that there's no salvation for the transformer once know as D-16, from miner slave to revolutionary dictator warrior to just slave (for Unicron) again and then into madbot (madman) after Unicron is destroyer by Optimus successor, Rodimus Prime.
@Bionickpunk there's a difference, though. Sentinel needed to go through trial. Be sentenced to servitude as punishment for what he did. Then, when he's no longer needed, execution. Just simply killing him is quick and gives him an easy way out. At that point, Megatron was only trying to kill him because he was mad. Then, after that, he tried to kill Bee and Elita. Lupa even pointed out how he was just lashing out at Optimus in the final fight, not even thinking about what he's doing. If Optimus was actually wrong, Megatron wouldn't have been a thing. He would've stopped after he accidentally shot Optimus. Help him up and realized what he was doing was going overboard.
@Bionickpunk Sentinel did need to die, I agree. But, his fate should have been decided by their justice system, be it life imprisonment with no possibility of parole or the death sentence.
@Bionickpunk If you really think Orion was going to let Sentinel walk away, you're crazy. All of iacon knew he was a traitor. If Orion didn't take him to trial, the mob would have likely killed Sentinel himself. It was just D being selfish as always. D did this to himself, not orion.
All the other bots were under the same system and suffered the same way. Yet only D chose to go this far. Orion tried to save his best friend. It's so sad how so many people side with Megatron even after he is prepared to be a full villain and blame Orion. Megatron was and is in the wrong. It was already over. He was going to carry out an unnecessary execution so he could have revenge. Then, immediately become another sentinel. Thank Primus Optimus Prime showed up to stop him.
That's fūkin stupid
Optimus isn't a "no killing" guy, he's leading a war after all. He's more about the morals and how things are done and/or perceived.
They’re just confused because how Michael bay films portrayed him.
@@Retrovorious The Bay films had him rip Sentinel’s face off and split Megatron’s in two. Off all the criticisms I’ve seen the Bay movies get, complaining that Optimus was a pacifist is just unfounded.
@@atharvawaikar9730 I never said that he was a pacifist in Bay films. I’m saying the reactors are confused about how Optimus prime is trying to prevent Megatron from killing Sentinel in this film because how willing he was to kill in bay films.
@@Retrovorious Ah. That makes sense. Better to leave both these comments up. Your first comment didn’t provide a lot of context.
@@atharvawaikar9730 you should also take into account the different timeline those wars were... This movie is not Year 1, it's literally day 1 of the war, where in the Bayverse, it's been countless hundreds of years, where Optimus has already lost a lot, and again he is leading a war against enemies with heavy hand, and the only way to deal with a heavy hand, is with a heavier hand.
Ngl, I don’t think Orion cares if Sentinel lived. I feel like it’s more so him trying to pull D out of a bigger fit of rage like he saw continuously escalate throughout the movie.
This! Orion doesn’t care about Sentinel (he helped drive a train at him) but he cares about D and knew where things were going
Also it was over. Sentinel lost and it was up to the people to decide what to do with him. Not D
I saw it more as, lets execute him via a court of law rather than an extrajudicial killing. From Pax's point of view, they needed to be better. But that is just me.
Exactly! People are so slow to realize. He doesn’t care about sentinel. He just didn’t want his best friend to lose himself.
@@kengvue1699 Sentinel deserves consequences for all he's done and caused. no one's saying otherwise; D-16's feelings of anger are even understandable. but a public and graphic execution doesn't actually change anything at this point. it would just be murder for D's own personal vengeance. which would leave him hollow at best, and out of control at worst
all the red flags were there from even before he got his transformation cog. it just gets more apparent once he gains the ability to do something about it
Especially since killing Sentinel did NOT make things better for D. He didn't calm down and if anything it only got WORSE.
Fun Fact: you can see Megatron cry after he fights Optimus. And it's confirmed by one of movie team. There was still a sliver of D-16 left.
I didn't notice that in my first couple of viewings, but looking back, god it's so obvious now
Where i don't see it???
Timestamp pls
@@MrSatern123 in the scene after Optimus and Megatron fight, where Optimus banishes him from Iacon and Megatron says "This isn't over, Prime"
@@MrSatern123When he's banished. There aren't any tears, but you can tell it's the cybertronian equivalent from the look in his eyes and his voice breaking.
Notice how as the movie goes on their voices start to change and sound more like classic optimus and megatron
Cool detail
It was towards the end.. & was kind of rough to my ears..
@@Thefrayenters rough in a good way or bad way?
@@editornoob4606yes
"I'm done saving you." That moment was so chilling. I knew D-16's turn had to happen, but I was still stunned in that moment. Brian Tryee Henry was amazing.
Hello brother, are you aware that you commented three times?
@@kingface2029nothing wrong with that. Not against UA-cam ToS
That line was chilling and sad man. Brian Tryee Henry was very good and so was Chris Hemsworth, he did a good job too.
That shit hurt so fucking much
@@kingface2029nobody cares I can comment as many times as I want and wdym by that tho.
46:02 she's ELITA ONE, she's the love interest for Optimus Prime and one of his immediate Lieutenants over all Autobots.
adding that she is different from the motorcycle you might be thinking of from the live action whose name is Arcee.
@@beefcake7801 Arcee was also a motorcycle 🏍 in TF Prime on the HUB kids channel
@@beefcake7801 technically elita one was also a motorcycle in the bayverse but she didn't do anything except die
can they just be happy in this continuity? In EVERY verse they suffer. Even in TFP in the OG version of "Stronger, Faster" Ratchet was gonna go for a low blow of mentioning Elita's death along with Cliffjumper and Prime was going to deck him in the face for it. I do wish they had kept the line of "where's Elita now?" but they shouldn't have Optimus hit his subordinate.
I think him STARTING to, like raising his fist, then stopping then confining Ratchet to base would've been perfect. Too many people complain that TFP Optimus doesn't emote (his optics do the talking for him), so this would've been a good compromise; show people that he DOES feel but he just keeps his emotions under wraps.
He HAS to. He can't let himself get compromised because then that's how mistakes are made. When you make it personal.
@@jonmorris293 The hub has a kids channel? Times are changing mayn.
Imagine how Megatronus Prime would feel to see someone use his name and face on the Decepticons.
Megatronus Prime chilling in Cybertron's core: These Slag-slugging mother fraggers...
@@macxgames 😂😂😂
@@macxgamesMegatronus: May primus hold me back from reviving myself and tearing each and every spark from these fools defacing me!.
@@primus3217 Primus allows Megatronus to revive. Only to reincarnate as Kup 😁
it depends on which one , because if they followed the IDW comics , he would probably become the fallen
The advertisements did this movie so much injustice. This movie was great. It let sad moments be sad, funny moments be funny, and it was just a well rounded origin to the stories we all know.
Hopefully it
gets a sequel
I'm genuinely curious wtf the marketing team was thinking. I saw the trailer and thought this was gonna be some childish cash grab slop. But it's the greatest transformers media I've seen to date (haven't watched much more than bay films and the last two movies)
@@chieffridge5588You should watch Transformers Prime the 3d cartoon series with 3 seasons that shows the entire Earth chronicles up until the revival of Cybertron. The autobots and Megatron were amazing in that entire show.
"No, I want to KILL him!" The way Brian Tyree Henry switched up with that monologue had me in such a chokehold.
That over the top jump pose Pax did at 51:37 was the iconic shot of Optimus from Transformers: The Movie (1986)!
Every new detail I discover about this movie is further proof that the people who made it love the Transformers franchise from the bottom of their hearts
He did the thing
it was absolutely necessary
And was about to tell them but you beat me to the punch 😂but thanks for telling them
They had the nerve to call that jump unnecessary. Noobs
Orion wasnt trying to save Sentinel, he wanted to save D-16 from becoming what he was destined to be, like Optimus said in one of the bay films, Megatron will never stop at one, right after killing Sentinel his next order was basically "now everyone who followed him".
@@shizar998 he even flat out says that everyone of sentienal’s followers needed to die
@@AgntFL then anyone that got in his way, so if you for whatever reason still liked sentinel, he wanted you dead, and if you thought that was a bit too far, youre on the list too.
Yeah, he didn't want justice, he just wanted him dead, with his corpse paraded around all of Iacon. He was already at the deep end at the beginning.
Additionally, Megatron was not in the right mindset as he prepared to kill Sentinel. Upon discovering the truth about Sentinel and realizing that his entire life had been a lie-along with receiving a cog for the first time-he began to lose control, succumbing to his anger, hatred, and desire for revenge against Sentinel for everything he had done to him. While it is true that Sentinel is a villain who deserves punishment for his crimes, Megatron wasn't seeking justice for anyone else; he was solely focused on his desire for retribution.
Like Bee said 'He's going to kill everyone!'
4:20 This was the funniest joke in the movie. I laughed so hard I had side stitches.
55:21 The issue isn't killing Sentinel. Orion probably believes that Sentinel deserves to die. Orion and D wanted to bring social change to Cybertron, and they succeeded. But by killing Sentinel after the truth was out, it went from social change to a tyrannical seize for power. Killing Sentinel wasn't the issue, it was publicly executing him.
Exactly, Megatron using his power to kill one leader to become the next is exactly what sentinel did and is nothing but moving from one dictator to the next. Sentinel didn't deserve to live, but Megatron shouldn't have killed him in a show of power.
@@LateBlossomingyou'll see Megatron also doesn't stop at killing Sentinel, he says he'll make everyone who stood with Sentinel pay and starts tearing apart the crowd. It's clear his anger and lust for revenge has spiraled into general violence and terror aimed towards the Cybertronian populace in the form of suspicion for collusion, which he uses as a justification for his destruction.
A robot doing the robot to troll other bigger bots has to be one of the funniest things I've seen
Throughout the whole movie, not once did I feel like D-16 wanted what Orion wanted, you know what I mean? I felt what you said about change is mostly what Orion wanted, and D-16 was just all in his spark
23:09 Bumblebee is like “yeah I’m running!”
First time I saw that, in movie I was dying lol
@@Talented_T He's got survival instincts most likely to survive in a horror movie
It was valid
the reason the Cave closes in during the start is because it acts like a wound, again, Cybertron is Primus himself
oh so like Primus was healing himself again this whole Cybertron is Primus thing is so cool got first intruduced to it in Transformers Cybertron glad its a main stay now
I was so confused about that. Wow, they really just digging Energon out of Primus's skin, stripping him to bare bone. My word.
I somehow knew Roshi was gonna like Megatron 😂
I was just saying dat, roshi is a villain himself bro 😂😂😂
@@swaykid4776🤣🤣😂
Of all villains he could have F'd with
Roshi justice fr😂
Its been know Roshi walks the path of the dark side🙂↕️
Transformers One did the impossible job of not only setting up Optimus but establishing why Megatron respects him as a fighter and leader. Other transformers shows has him say “Optimus is many things a fool is not one of them” and “Those who underestimate Optimus are doomed to lose to him”
Anyone got chills when Megatron said, “I’m done saving you.” ?
I did man it was cold. Great but sad scene.
Yes
🖐️
@@royalreptile923 I got chills three times honestly. First time when D said "I. Got. It.", second when his optics turned orange with the high guard, third time wit the I'm done saving you. Amazing movie, 10/10
I like how this movie gave us a reason why Starscream’s voice sounded the way it does. For some reason, I imagined that Sentinel was almost to do the same to Megatron to give him the G1 voice 😅.
And the way Starscream acted lmao, "C'mon hit me!" Very Starscream 🤣
@@nverted-dynamo Starscream is very kinky that way.
???
There always was a reason.
I would love to get a Starscream origin movie if it's executed as well as TF1. Interesting character across multiple continuities + Steve Buscemi = a movie I would pay dollars to see in the theater on opening weekend.
Chris Heamsworth did a really good job voicing Optimus , respect to him.
true not the level of peter cullen but still good voice
He somehow able to capture that "father" speech of Optimus Prime...
especially at the end. so good
@@davidthirugnanakumar7888I mean its the same as kevin conroy for batman, no one will be as great as cullen, but hemsworth was surprisingly really good
@@yll7570 I didn't even notice this was him, awesome.
7:10 Not Roshi hearing _Scarlett Johansson_ and thinking it's Awkwafina ☠️
@@Saiyanprince1114 not even gonna lie I thought the exact same thing my first watch 😭
Also wanna point out how its not that optimus was against killing. We literally see him rip a guy in half before megatron is about to shoot sentinel. Optimus was on devious timing this movie 😭
It was more that he didn't want to start anew using violence.
@@kristophersy773 yeah, it isn't even that Optimus doesn't think sentinel deserves to die. Basically he was just thinking more long term.
He probably could've worded it better to Megatron before getting shot by sentinel though, not that it would've changed anything imo
I think the others they fought were just simple drones too that might be why like just automated guards and such
Yea, it was more like Optimus knew that once Megatron smoked that Sentinel pack, he was gonna go off the deep end.
Killing in combat is ok, executions are not.
I love the contrast about the fact that Megatron looks like he's rise but in reality fallen, by becoming a Monster who just killed his "Brother". Optimus looks like he's falling but instead Rising up as a Hero, who will in the lay down his spark for others, so they can have a better future.
glad u catch that, i didn't realize it until ur comment, that is truly a great scene
Thanks, the film was great I Hope we get a sequel.
Ngl i never realized that the mines collapsing was Primus actively keeping them from Energon (and the secrets at the core of the planet). That's a REALLY cool detail
But that wouldn't make sense why he'd do that and let his people suffer.
@@ribottostudio The Energon they were mining were all being given to the Quintessons, everyone in Iacon was barely getting any, and they weren't even aware of it.
It's not that, it's like a wound closing
@@ribottostudio Energon is the Lifeblood of Primus, like our blood is to us.
@@ribottostudio Presumably, it was meant to protect the Energon from whatever had killed the Primes(and, logically, the rest of the Cybertronians). If something was strong enough to kill the Primes, it shouldn't be allowed to get to the Energon. So the Energon stops flowing to prevent the outside force from getting it. And then, like antibodies fighting bacteria, fights back against anything digging through to get to the Energon, hence caves closing up and being so dangerous.
IGN giving this movie a 5/10 is just outright bullshit. Can't spell Ignorant without IGN 😂
What???? Fr?? This shit a 11/10
Can't spell malignant tumour without IGN
Lmaoooo
This movie reminded me so much of Transformers Prime... God, I miss that show.
you also heard the prime notes in the soundtrack , immediately , i was like , yep , it's bryan tyler , i love his score from prime
@@davidthirugnanakumar7888TRUEEE! Omg, I loved the TFP theme and I heard how similar it sounded at the beginning of the movie.
Im rewatching it these days, such a great show. my favorite depiction of Optimus
One Shall Stand. One Shall Fall.
On every timeline...
Til all are one
That should be the name for the next two movies respectively
@@corneliusquincydavenportic1913 I agree with the first sequel being named of them. But I think the third one should be called "Transformers: Till all are one".
@@franciscopedraza7534 Nah dude, One shall fall would be a good third film if "One Shall Stand" was the sequel. Although, "Til All Are One" would be a great final fourth film. Hell, maybe that could be the one where we remake the orignal 86 film, with more story and better combat and NOT screwing over my boy, Hot Rod. And more Vince DiCola and Stan Bush; maybe working with Brian Taylor
0:53 Bros laugh sounds EXACTLY like the jokers🤣 Like wildly spot on.
Yes! Thanks for covering this!!! It’s so good and needs support so the studios will lean into this type of storytelling
Damn right. The movie need all the support it can get!
12:15 this trio has watched and seen so many betrayals that they can practically see this one coming before anyone else talks about it.
It’s nice to see big channels such as Roshi giving this movie the attention that it deserves. The marketing they did was just not it.
I honestly didn't watch it because the marketing made it look so wack.
Really sucks for good movies to be let down by trailers and marketing.
My sister invited me to watch it ngl I was not feeling it after watching the trailer but after watching the actual movie I’m soo glad she did 9/10 movie fr
Why do people keep saying that the first trailer was bad but the second trailer was fantastic and that got me hooked to watch the movie in IMAX 3-D
Also Maximiliano Dood.
@tmac731 Personally, with the amount of media poured out on a daily basis, if your first trailer was wack, I'm over it.
I know I'm not the only one. I'm not saying it's fair, but rarely do you get a second chance without word of mouth.
The idea of the deceptions name isn't the fact that they want to "decieve everyone". The group calls themselves that as a reminder of what was done to them and all of Cybertron. That's what makes Megatron so tragic. He's literally defined himself by his trauma and loss of hope, from the Megatronus Prime symbol, his name, the use of Megatronus' own T-Cog
It’s fucked how we just got the best transformers movie of our generation and it underperformed because Hollywood doesn’t know how to market fun. This was up there with the original animated movie and it deserved way more credit than it got
1:09:40 Megatron’s logic is probably like “Can’t con a conman.”
1:09:45 wow they're the first reactors to say that. about the decepticons using megatronus' face as their logo
51:37 That jump is an iconic reference to original Transformers 1986 movie.
They should've added some necessity to it though. Maybe have him jump through a window or jump over a shot
they also added it for bumblebee opening , i mean it's so iconic
@@KenSahaja If he jumped over the guards, shooting them along the way, that would've been peak.
i don't think they'll ever match the original purely because they were just like "why don't we give optimus boosters for literally no reason just so we can create the most iconic shot in the franchise?" and so far no one else has been able to commit to that level
1:07:27 "Didn't look like two junkyards crashing into each other..." is crazy, accurate, but crazy. 🤣😂
Baypeak slander in 2024,tsk tsk...
This movie doesn’t take place in the same universe as the Michael Bay movies. It’s a completely new continuity.
Which is good. Thank God!
@@jonah5548 But am i wrong in liking the CGI models we got in the movies? Cause they were awesome.
@@crimsonghoul8983 nah everything except the story was great in the bay verse.
@@jonah5548 bro saying good as if Bay didn’t work on this movie 😂😂😂
@@Hugabugahugabuga story and characters was bad. They do a nonsnesical plot every movie, from the allspark to decepticons on the moon and pyramids, to transformers in nazi germany. Also the design of the decepticons was bland, they all look grey without any color and some look too xenomorphic.
51:39 "The jump was unnecessary!" It's an Easter egg. It's the same pose Optimus Prime had when he transformed and turned the tide in the battle of Autobot City in the 1986 Transformers: The Movie.
1:01:05 you guys do know the autobots and Decepticons didn't actively choose to go to earth considering their main goal was to escape the dying world Cybertron became thanks to the civil war.
Orion was NOT trying to save Sentinel at all. He 100% thinks he deserves to die. He was trying to save D-16. In retrospect, literally took a bullet for D but of course D will see that as a betrayal in itself. Both of them thinks that the other is acting like Sentinel respectively.
From my own observations: Sentinel really did want Orion and D to be Ted Talk motivational speakers for the miners, Dark Wing just went behind his back to toss Orion and D to Sublevel 50. And since Sentinel, Airachnid, and Dark Wing were the last ones to have seen the two, Sentinel was able to make up a story without having make up an alibi.
The way megatron reattached the canon after Optimus hit him with it was so cold 🥶🔥
38:02 This whole sequence is a pretty accurate depiction of trying to transform one for the first time without the instructions 😅
The thing I found most interesting about this was that Optimus and Megatron were once the opposite of who they grew to be. Optimus was the one that use to break protocol and Megatron only knew to follow it. But once seeing the truth for what it was they had grow and change
26:03 Those transformers aren’t necessarily “robots”, but metal trans-organics (according to the lore, at least) Those plants are probably far harder than they look
That "I'm done saving you" was the coldest line I've heard in 2024. Maybe not the best, but for sure the coldest.
Steve Buscemi as Starscream was not something I thought I would ever need in my life but god am I glad it exists
Bro whoever was in charge of the trailers needs to be FIRED THIS MOVIE WAS FIRE!!!!
To be clear Elita is Optimus’ love interest/girlfriend from the og continuity when we’re shown his past as Orion pax, she is not arcee the more well known bike transformer that you see in the transformers prime cartoon. (Both are bikes and arcee is pink as well just like elita in most of her adaptions besides the prime cartoon)
Brian Tyree Henry was absolutely AMAZING as megatron. He has potential to voice Young Kratos in an animated god of war series
OMG you're so right! I knew his voice sounded familiar, that's why I thought Megatron's VA was TC Carson for a bit
I'm so glad y'all reacted to this movie cuz I literally no joke watched it 31 times it's SUCH a good origin story movie!! Literally *PEAK CINEAM* 😭
Sentinel didn’t send them to the scrappile, there’s a lot of evidence against that. He told that lie about Orion being dead only after everything else went down.
Megatron had a point for killing Sentinel, but then him going forth to kill everyone who else was going too far
D-16 caught Darkwing's punch BEFORE he got his T-cog. Let that sink in.
@@ericjohnson6120 and now he has the power of the strongest prime. MEGATRONUS.
The marketing did this movie so dirty. Glad people are recognizing just how good it is
This film did an excellent job at showing how D16s turn is essentially a really prolonged mental breakdown. The shock at ATs revelation clearly messed him up, understandably. His agitation, inability to really process what’s happened were all portrayed so well. Optimus tried to save sentinel to stop D16 from further escalating his downward spiral
TFHypeGuy carrying the advertising for this film
51:38 Optimus hitting this pose with a blaster is a canon event. He’s been doing it across multiple incarnations of Transformers
46:10 Shockwave: How about I blast you back to YaBoyRoshi😂😂😂
Elita One (also Elita-One or Elita-1) is a devoted Autobot and powerful warrior, fearless in the face of the enemy, but compassionate to those who need her help.
Before she was Elita One, she was the simple manual laborer Ariel, who became a renowned Autobot resistance leader, a female counterpart to Optimus Prime. Elita One leads the Female Autobots in a desperate gamble to keep Cybertron out of the hands of the Decepticons. She is sometimes the wielder of a great special power: the ability to stop time through the creation of a field with a fifty-foot radius around her. Sadly, this ability drains all of her life force and is thus almost assuredly fatal, leaving her to only use it in the most dire of situations.
Her chassis is the color of Energon, which is pretty intimidating!
Something to note is that if Optimus were to kill Megs then and there, it would
1.continue the cycle of violence of one tyrant killing another to the eyes of Iacon.
and
2. propagate the civil war between the high guard and the miners and Iacon to which a couple of the most important Autobot soldiers don't have their cogs prompting em to lose then and there.
51:38 That jump is a reference to the old transformers films.
9:34 Cybertronian’s are robotic organisms. Which means their brain’s and body’s are just like us but only robotic
56:58 The compression made D-16's voice sounds like Greek saga Kratos.
So we getting a old megatron who sounds like old kratos
There's so much G1 fanservice, you can spot most of the G1 cast in the miners like Wheeljack, Kupp, Prowl, Ironhide, Sideswipe, etc. also, the unnecessary jump pose Optimus does with the blaster is his iconic G1 pose from the Autobot city battle in the 1986 movie, and ofc he gets the energon ax (which funnily enough, he only ever uses in 1 very early G1 episode).
This mood in this vid is perfect!
5:00
Energon is practically everything to them. It's their blood, food, drink, fuel, ammunition, ordnance, and plenty more. And to follow up on 08:10, Energon is very volatile in its raw state, so I don't think it's really more of a self-defense mechanism thing as it's just a very dangerous substance to deal with despite its importance to their lives.
27:45
Unicron is around the same size as Primus/Cybertron. Just so since they're both mortal enemies, not unlike Optimus and Megatron.
43:20
That would be Megatron's signature Fusion Cannon.
46:00
That would be Elita-One. She's mostly well-known since the G1 cartoon and comics as Optimus's girlfriend.
51:36
As odd as that was choreographed, that is Optimus's iconic jump from the G1 movie, which you see him do again in the beginning of Bumblebee.
55:30
It's actually tradition that Optimus has to die at least once in every single Transformers media, whether it's the comics, the cartoons, or the movies.
59:24
It's so funny how Optimus wielded an energon axe in just one episode of the G1 cartoon, which was in the series premiere, and somehow it blew up to become an iconic signature weapon that he would wield in so many other versions.
Anyone else felt extremely pissed at Sentinel, when he had the audacity to angrily say, “The Truth. Is. What. I. MAKE IT!”
As you can see throughout the film, Orion isn't against killing in defense or desperation, but he was against killing Sentinel in that moment for three reasons:
1. Sentinel was no longer a threat in the moment and could be captured for a later official trial and either imprisonment or execution
2. He did not want D-16 to succumb to darkness and rage
3. It sends the wrong message to Cybertronians
One cool detail is how Orion kneels down to talk to the miners. He speaks to them like a father yet treats them like equals and respecting their autonomy
Also how D fell standing above everybody else and Orion became a prime by falling due to the greater good. One shall stand, One shall fall…
The scene where Optimus rips off the tank cannon and then Megatron takes it back is just so ridiculously fluid idk how that scene alone didn't pack every cinema.
What a movie, as soon as I saw ye put his up I just had to see your reaction
Brian Tyree Henry really out did himself with his incredible performance and his deep understanding of Megatron since always wanted to play the villains. Every villain of his and her own Story.
D-16 is not only a product of Cybertron’s failed system and takes on Sentinel Prime’s oppression though violent means all the social injustices he had experiences forged his transcendence into Megatron and building up to a rivalry with Orion turned Optimus Prime (due to wanting the same goal of a unified Cybertron but have different viewpoints).
But their friendship is doomed since they discovered that shocking realization their leader Sentinel Prime has sold out Cybertron to the Quintessons after betraying his fellow Prime brothers and sisters, and ruled his planet through oppression. D-16 has put too much faith in the system he has held on to until his worldview was shattered that boils up to anger and a personal vengeance after being suffered of the social injustices while Orion still kept his optimism by exposing the truth of Sentinel's corruption.
This what makes D-16 a much more of a compelling hero-turned-villain and tragic character in Transformers history. And the rift between two brothers. Both D-16 and Orion both wanted a unified Cybertron but each have different ways to bringing it into fruition.
also he sounds like JC Carson from God of War
"That jump was not necessary" it was a reference to the '86 movie
This movie is one huge love letter to the franchise. So the fact that the marketing was such garbage and that it BARELY broke even on its budget is a crime
I wouldn't be surprised if it was the same incompetent marketing team that handled the Dungeons & dragons movie. They made it look cringe as hell when in fact it wasn't, it seems this movie suffered a similar fate and lost some money for it... Shame
It actually made its budget back, but not much more. So fans need to support it with digital and physical discs to show it’s worth investing in a sequel
@@AgntFL I'm ignorant about how the film industry truly works (personally when I see the amount of some "budgets" it looks more like money laundering or corruption than anything but I digress), but I heard that making back just the budget for the film-making part isn't enough for profit at all..
People like these guys are the reason why most media tend to bash you over the head with plot-points and themes in substitute of subtle story-telling because it does not take a rocket scientist to tell you that D16/Megatron was still wrong by the end of the movie lmfao.
some people really no to imagine D covered in blood while giving the speech
Fun fact the scene after Prime gets his axe is a direct reference to the transformers' revange of the fallen forest fight. The fight scene plays out the exact same way.
And the axe is a reference to his g1 weapon
Elita-1 was introduced as Optimus' love interest back on Cybertron in the 84 cartoon who he left in charge of Autobot forces while he went to look for other sources of energon after the war drained all of Cybertron. Future adaptations have built on this, often leaving the love interest aspect secondary to making her this hardened warrior who had been fighting a guerilla war back home while Optimus had a relatively easier time on Earth.
Everybody acts like the war was Alpha Trions fault since he gave D-16 a cog. But really, he was just giving them back what was taken from them.
Megatron was on Roshi's Justice.
"EVERYBODY GOTTA GO!"
I am Megatron!
Arise...Optimus Prime!
That whole scene of D-16 and Orion transforming into the iconic characters we know and love was amazing. I loved all the cybertronians having their iconic looks. So happy to see you guys reacting to this.
Funny how one guy on Twitter did a better marketing job 😂
35:28 Sentinel created a cogless minority and had others discriminate against them. BRO CREATED RACISM WITH AUTOBOTS
Is anyone pissed off with them just outright agreeing with Megatron? Like sure, the anger is totally justifiable but Megatron murdering Sentinel literally proved that he was no better. Hell he even immediately tried to take over and become a dictator the exact same way Sentinel was
fr, killing Sentinal wasn't enough and he declared he will take down anyone in his way for his version of Cybertron's future
In my own headcanon, Autobots means Autonomous Robots as a way of representing each individuals right to choose their own destiny, while Decepticons refers to the fact they were lied to and won't be lied to ever again. It may not be the intent. but it sounds cool.
I have never clicked a notification from you all any faster. This movie needs all the love and justice!
To correct a few things; The movie took place over 3 days, this movie is in its own storyline seperate to other media, bee is hinted to lose his voice in the future still, the female autobot in the main 4 is Elita-1, often confused for the usual main female autobot Arcee, which is usually Optimus' girlfriend in most storylines, Alpha Trion was confused for Zeta Prime, and I think that was all for that. The movie was said to get a sequel if the movie did well but unfortunately didn't do to well. Hopefully the merchandise and dvd/streaming/renting gets them there
It's so easy to get lost in the immediate emotion but not realizing the ramification of what you're doing. Megatron wasn't looking for "Justice". He sought his own self satisfaction. A selfish rageful vengeance without regard for who got hurt in the process. Like Sentinel, He selfishly decided for everyone else what he wanted.
Megatron's crashout was indeed justified lupa
The only reason the war was taken to earth was because Megatron poisoned the planet with dark energon. The dark energon was killing Cybertron, so Primus had to shut down the core for millions of years until it can repair itself. Then the Autobots fled on the Ark, the Decepticons followed with the Nemesis Ship aka Trypticon. Then both factions fought while trying to get through a portal, thats when the war made its way to Earth. You have to watch Transformers Prime and Generation 1 to get a better understanding. Also, in other continuity’s Megatron got the name from Gladiator days in Kaon when the crowd started cheering the name. Megatron had every right to start the war, but as it continued he lost his way. And before the war, Starscream use to be a scientist/explorer. Shockwave use to be a doctor for the Kaon Gladiator fights and Soundwave use to work with the council. Soundwave fought Megatron and nearly came out on top, Shockwave is dangerous because he’s smart as fuck and willing to take it far in his experiments.
Loved your reactions. Alpha Trion was voiced by the amazing Laurence Fishburn. The female bot that works with Orion/Optimus is Elita-1. She is a powerful female Autobot who is also Prime's girlfriend and amazing commander. No Megatron killing Sentinel makes him just like Sentinel...and you see Megatron completely loses it...he starts destroying innocents and city too. Primus wanted his people as one...not killing. :) Also, Primus was dormant..he only can communicate at his core. Yes...Primus turned of the energon because he knew Sentinel tried stealing the matrix and took it back. And also from preventing the Quintisons from harvesting Cybertron even more quickly.
I’ve been waiting for this!!! Saw you guys commentating about this on Twitter, so I knew it was coming soon🙌🏼
That scene of "The Fall" is going to stick with me as one of the greatest Transformers moments in my mind. I can already tell.
You guys missed the second end credit when Megatron formed the Decepticons.
One of, if not, the best Transformer movie since the original and it contained NO HUMANS!
I'm okay with the occasional humans, but I'm glad we have another fully animated Transformers movie.