No disk and no backwards capabilities, I'm skipping Slim+Pro all together. Might as well wait few years and Sony will announce PS6 by then. Crazy prices will just push many to PC market
It's that ugly glossy plastic they've used. It makes it look like a toy. It's also shaped slightly differently so it looks weird in comparison to the original model.
I appreciate my CFI-1015 console more after seeing the Slim/Pro. It's not by all that much but I do like that the original model was even a little overbuilt, and plus the ginormous heat sink.
I have a theory. COVID messed up a lot of manufacturing and Sony rushed to deliver the PS5 on time. Then finally once products came available again, they rebuilt the PS5 and added what was originally intended (hence the 8k badge on the original box)
Those who are buying the pro, have the pro controller. If $700 is a lot of money to you, then there is a slim chance you even have the tech to appreciate what it can do. $700 isn’t even 1/2 the price of a quality OLed gaming monitor that’s powerful enough to enjoy this machinery
@@ShinzoX90 cope harder. mass spamming these comments trying to trick yourself into justification lmfao. hows that dogshit performance on alan wake 2 🤣
@@oxzak9093 I need no justification. I have a high end CPU and soon will also have the pro. All the things you want, I have. All the women you wish you could get, wish they had me. Your chick would instantly ghost you, just for a chance, to get pump and dumped by me. Stay mad.
I spent 1500 on a pc(3080+amd5800x3d) a year and a half ago and the ps5 pro just now bested it in performance, don't waste your money bro just stick to consoles unless you're rich or something. especially with the price of new pc parts costing more than 1.5-3x what a console costs these days
Even a rtx 4060 TI is better or a Radeon RX 6800 which cost $350, you add a small motherboard, a processor, ssd, a tower, a fan and you have a cheaper, more powerful, more versatile PC and above all with a much larger catalog of games! lots of videos circulating on UA-cam with PCs that cost $900 or even less that are much more powerful
it would be using 300W and would have to be massive to be cool and silent, this new chip is on 4nm(a node that didn't exist comercially in 2020), the original PS5 SoC is on 7nm, also the architecture is a mix of RDNA3 and RDNA4, which also didn't exist in 2020.
From what i herd, both the original "PS5" & "PS5 PRO" would of launched the exactly same year or months apart but due to the Pandemic chip makers halted the progression & development for the PS5 Pro. I recalled that SONY engineers said something about the idea of a "PS5 PRO" was already planned during the "PS4 PRO" released.
Im from Belize and $1 US is equivalent to $2 Belize. So $700 US is equivalent to $1400 Belize excluding Tax. Very Expensive. When the PS5 came out a friend brought back one to sell he wanted $2400 Belize but he sold me for $1800 Belize. I will definitely pass on the PS5 Pro for now
7:30 ah the cmos battery, the most important thing of the ps3 in case sony shuts the licencensing server down for ps3 cause thanks to that battery all your digital ps3 purchases (including dlc) will keep working and if that battery dies and needs to be replaced then if Sony's licencensing server for ps3 is down then all digital purchases are unplayable as it cannot receive the correct licence to play them
People don't know about these things. Good job spreading the knowledge. At the end of the day, we should all be more careful about which games we buy. It can all be shut down tomorrow. Cod Skins, ultimate teams, dlc, live services, all very volatile. Or we can lose our license to play them in the future like you said.
$700 is insane. $250 just for a 2gb DDR5 cell, a slightly bigger PSU and going to 4nm from 6nm. a tiny chip like this must cost at most $100, even on 4nm. Sony could be selling these for $600 with the disc drive and still be making money.
@@zerosolis6664 Hate to inform you, but there are $600/$800 dollar PCs with 4060s and 5000 series CPUs hitting high fps in COD, Helldivers, Fortnight games. What a lot of people forget is PC has broad scale to what settings you turn off and on. Also, you can pop out the that 4060 down the line and sale it towards a Radeon 8000 or Nvidia 5000 or just wait for desired performance increase since the next 60 class card will be 30-40% better.
@@zerosolis6664easy when a rx 6800($350 btw) is faster than the pro and a 5600x(stomps on the ryzen 3600 ps5 pro cpu) for $130 an extra $300 for everything else and you got a ps5 pro killer that wont be cpu limited in games like the pro is/can ACTUALLY run 120fps in more than 5 games, on top of not having to wait for ps5 pro patches(or play games stuck to ps4 settings lol) and you get free online. Sony may as well be ripping you guys off because consoles usually smoke pc in value(at least on release day) but Sonys feeling confident(more like greedy lmao real price is $830 w/ stand and drive) like in the ps3 days because xbox is doing bad. The pro should really be $600 TOPS for it to be good value like the launch ps5/xbsx were.
Fun fact: CMOS batteries tend to last for around 10 years. And this thing has those at a quick access. Also the cooling on that thing might actually be crazy.
Anyone who has ever powered up their PC and had the BIOS demand that you insert the correct date & time would disagree with you, both that the battery did not last 10 years, and that it did not last 10 years after they replaced the battery. In the case of 1990's Apple computers a "bad" battery would not allow the Mac to power up at all. I had to replace the Date & Time battery on 6 laptops which demanded a complete strip down. I ended up scraping all 6 as it took hours to do just one. In the case of the xBox360 it did not have a battery, it set the clock through an Internet connection. If you could not connect, which is/was a common complaint, you could not have the correct time set, which could interfere with game save points, all of them having the same date & time, and therefore one could not resume from a game save point. So, if you disconnect power from your TV and reconnect the power, how is it that it sets the time, say on an LG Plasma? Obviously the technology exists. A PC battery may last if the power supply is always connected to the power outlet, but then you also run the chance of capacitors "pop-corning" or leaking. In the case of TVs, that's the Instant On ability.
You wanna a controller of 240$ a extra tera of disk,more ram,some extra hardware and some extra power,all for the same price of a PS5 normal,people think companies do stuff to sell at cost price with 0 profit.
They wasted their time adding 8k support, but it still has the same crappy hdmi bandwidth as base ps5 that doesn't support full rgb hdr in 120 hz mode. Pretty disappointing. Psvr2 games that rely on dynamic resolution look much better. That's the only thing keeping me from returning this thing..
Why does anyone even care how it looks? It should be a question of how much better is it ? If it’s better at all. They could sell you an amazing looking piece of plastic that looks like it came from the 3099 but if it runs like a Nintendo switch at 30 fps it’s still not good.
@ But your not looking at it it’s just taking space . How often really are you sitting there immersed in An amazing fantasy game taking in the lore and you just stop and go ima glad this console looks amazing or I wouldn’t like this game .
I originally called this a "lazy overpriced upgrade", my friend who is a hardware engineer said "A good hardware engineering job should only requires minor changes for improvement". I guess, its a flex of PlayStation's hardware team on that front... *HOWEVER,* we both agreed Canadian $850.00 without a uhd blu-ray drive is ridiculous.
Some of y’all. I get it’s not for everyone. But it’s worth it for some. Example- I wanted a ps5 in my family room. So I was getting a second one anyway. I work a job that allows me a 15% discount. I paid 650$ after tax. The actual useable storage is approximately 1.2tb more. If you equate it to a nvme drive of the same size, you could equate that to another 50$ in value. Disc drive- I understand a lot of you guys demand to have one. I usually do too. But the last couple years I’ve found myself buying far more digital games, I really only use the disc drive for movies. So, FOR ME, the extra fidelity, frame rates, and storage, made it a worthy purchase for 650. Especially because I still had the first gen release.
Hey now, can you share your discount code? Haha, I'm teasing! And yeah, I agree - if you want something that's being marketed to you, and you've got the funds, buy it, and enjoy it! You don't need to listen to what others have to say, or deal with their negativity! Hope you're enjoying that new PS5 Pro! I might just buy one for myself!
@@LegacyRap7777"LoL, jUsT sAy yOu'Re bRoKe" has to be one of the worst arguments I've ever heard. If you think you can judge people's financial stability, then we can judge your financial decisions as well. You have no right to call others "broke asf" just because they can't afford or won't spend on something incredibly overpriced
So with the brackets can we stand our ps5 pros upright without having issues? I heard the older ps5s had issues with thermal paste or the Liquid Metal when standing upright?
That problem was hugely overblown. Of course you heard the very vocal few that had an issue, but you wouldn't hear anything from the millions that didn't. My 2020 console has been upright its entire life and is fine.
4:36 the series x is so much quieter, my launch day console is still dead silent, my 1 year old ps5 is a lot louder The Xbox design is so much functionally better than the ps5 (looks wise it depends on preferences)
Kudos to Sony engineers for making the battery accessible. That alone will save owners hundreds of dollars. A technician should not need to remove the CPU heat-sink to get to the battery. Doing so increases the chance of the liquid metal thermal "pad" being compromised. I'd have to look at your prior strip-down vids again to see if that indeed would have been the case, but, iirc, in one model the battery was right under a heat-sink.
The lay out and reason everything looks so similar is Because the PS5 slim has a binned ps5 pro chip they knew what they were doing its a smart tactic to save money and charge the consumer more money
No, the PS5 pro use RDNA4 GPU with harware accelerated AI upscaler. This is not a software lock. And the chip is bigger and require more power and more thermal dissipation capabilities.
it's physically a different graphics processor. it uses an updated architecture from AMD, i wouldnt be surprised if it uses frame gen, but it is a different chip
@ShiroDv it seems they could add it to the ps5. They are doing this to force crazed fanboys into spending all their pay check on the pro and not their rent for a month.
@Bigzoe202Gaming people that think like you are the reason game companies say "consumers should get used to not owning games." You know the things that are shipped out half finished and cost $70 physically and digitally. And also require us to be online all the time even if it's a single player storymode
You forgot to mention how scalpers have finally bought up all the disk drives right now and are trying to resell them back for double the price. 🤦🏽♂️💀
For me its better frames on games that are struggling right now. Also I hate the blurry image in some games performance mode. PRO fixes that by running quality mode in 60 fps instead of 30.
Its almost like a con. Like they dont expect any major games in years to come and so they bs people into playing released games again cuz it looks/plays "better".
@ShinzoX90 Money doesn't really matter to me, especially as a hard-core gamer. I love the newest tech and gadgets. But I fail to see the point.. I think it's a disgusting move from Sony to not include a disc drive, not have ANY older ps4 games "enhanced."
Thanks for testing sound and thermal. I’ve decided to hold off my PS5 pro purchase. The noise/thermal issues from PS3 and PS4 ruined my gaming experience and don’t want to try another until Sony figures it out.
I mean at this point your better off buying a gpu and build yourself a pc. Even save more not requiring a subscription to play online and generally PC games discount faster then console games. Its a no brainer now.
An interesting takeaway from this analysis is that the Series X is actually a pretty well darn designed console: quieter, lower power consumption, while keeping roughly the same temperature. Who would have thought Microsoft had nailed it this time. It's just a shame about the games though...
As a person who upgraded to an XSX from a PS4 Pro, I couldn't agree more! Unfortunately for Xbox, the previous console generation was the one where most people acquired a library of games which thanks to Backwards Compatibility, combined with diminishing returns, constitutes a major obstacle against switching platform. Sony obviously knows this, and aren't afraid exploit this advantage to the maximum... Although I think they are overplaying their hand a bit if they think they can continue with this pricing for the next console generation!
Exactly. Thank you. It doesn't have those features but they can easily have done it on the base model. Current gen doesn't need an upgraded version at all they're very powerful. It's just devs haven't utilized the full potential yet. To me it's just waste of money and a cash grab. I mean why waste so much money where in 3 years PS6 will come out?
@@MikeTheGreek I think you're massively underestimating the power of PSSR, and the capabilities of it for the future. I also feel like you're overestimating the current power of the PS5 as most games are failing to hit 60 FPS at native 4K resolution. That's the whole selling point behind the Pro is that PSSR is supposed to bridge the gap for games to run at 60 FPS.
Small mistake I noticed but the ps4 enhancement mode is actually essentially just an ai sharpening filter over 1080p ps4 games. PS4 games will already run better on the base PS5, so you don't need the pro for it. Although in rare occassions games that don't hit 60fps on the base ps5 can possibly do so on the pro. Also this sharpening filter doesn't work on games that run at any resolution above 1080p internally.
A packed release schedule, content delays, and historic IP pushed console to the next level in 2023 Console will be the biggest games market sector this year after mobile. Console’s impressive +7.4% growth will far outpace mobile (+0.8%) and downloaded/boxed PC (+1.6%). Several factors are driving the growth of console gaming: 2022 was slower-than-expected for console, despite some big releases (like Elden Ring), so a portion of this year’s growth is more of a return to form. Major studios are launching new entries to successful franchises, including Zelda, Spider-Man, Mario, Forza, Starfield, Diablo, Baldur’s Gate, and Final Fantasy, after years without mainline releases. The pandemic forced the AAA games industry to delay releases even further. Have meaning when you say something.
Believe it or not, the PS5 Pro sometimes performs on par with, or even below, the RX 6800-a GPU that’s already four years old! But hey, consoles take years to develop, so by the time they drop, PC tech is miles ahead. Console gamers, thoughts?
I’m not going to give you my thoughts. You are on a video about the ps5 pro, not PC. I’m not going to go on a cooking video and ask people their thoughts on super charged V8 engine.
My thoughts are thought I like pressing a button and sitting on my couch. I don't want a room with a desk and a monitor and a whole pc to manage with parts needing replaced and games needing drivers updated to work. I just wanna plug it in and play man. I traded 2 consoles in for the ps5 pro and the next thing I buy for the actual price of the pro will be an oled tv. Why do some of you care so much about what others do in their free time with their money?
many complain about no disc drive but the pro has 2 tb ssd instead of 1 on the og/slim ps5 so this alone is worth the price of the drive. some complain for no reason i think. the problem is more the availability of disc drives which are hard to find right now.
@@t4nk3d402 why bother with an external drive when you can have an internal ssd that will also play your ps5 games ? as far i know , you cant play ps5 games from an external drive but can only store them and need to put it on internal drive to be able to play them.
And the the biggest secret is (drumroll please) the price at $700 with no disc drive, just improve a handful of PS4 games and almost no PS5 game! What a joke!
I got one of those as well. I loved the series s and very happy they made an all white series x. Traded my other xsx and ps5 slim for the pro. Paid about $100.
Austin, you're good with this kind of stuff. Can you by any chance clarify if this system is still RDNA 1.5 /2 like people are saying or is it RDNA 3 with RDNA 4 ray-tracing ? Some people are saying the upgrade for this PRO is minimal. Any way you can clarify this ?
I'd love to see Austin do a video comparing the difference between PS4/PS4 pro vs PS5/PS5 Pro. Would love to see how that looks considering people forget that pro versions are still quite a recent thing in gaming, of course I started with NES way back when though lol
I ended up getting one, I haven't had a console besides a switch since the ps2 and only been on PC. Thought fuck it might as well get the better version.
In your case it isn't unreasonable, it's justifiable. Those who already own PS5s probably won't see a reason to upgrade, to trade-in their old unit and get a new upgraded unit. Oh, I'm sure there will be some, but it many not be that many. But, because it is Digital Only one has to go into it knowing that they will probably need to pay $160 a year to play games, or pay whatever price is asked when buying a Digital download game. So, do you want to pay $69.99 for the newest game, for the base game, $109 for the Deluxe, or $169.99 for the Premium Deluxe with all the DLCs, costumes, weapons, power-ups, maps, etc., game?
$700 for no disk drive, 1 extra tb, and a TINY MINISCULE performance boost is unacceptable when I could buy a PS5 Slim with Disk Drive, 2 extra controllers, and the newest CoD Vault Edition for the same price.
The best combo is PC + Switch... I just sell my PS5 after buying all of my games on Steam and plug it on my LG 65 120hz. The best move ever. NO PS+, the controller I want (Love 8bitdo) and running RDR2 4k 120fps, not a fucking PS4 version. PC = liberty.
700 dollars with no disc drive is diabolical.
No disk and no backwards capabilities, I'm skipping Slim+Pro all together. Might as well wait few years and Sony will announce PS6 by then. Crazy prices will just push many to PC market
700 dollars for a bunch of made up specs is even more diabolical
That's literally what makes a console a console
No disc drive *and* no vertical stand…for $700 😅
@@Verymusician193????!?!???
I am still happy with my PS5 Amateur and PC combo.
same
Thats literally the best combo in gaming right now.
You aren't alone on that I got a gaming laptop and a ps5 🗿
@@ShinzoX90 why exactly did you feel the need to comment that??
@@ericfanatic6 why did you feel the need to tag me in this comment?
Whatever you just thought, there is your answer.
800 to 900 bucks in Germany is just insane. It would be good for 500, like really good. The current price is unacceptable.
why is it so expensive in euorpe?? 800 to 900 euros is extremely overpriced
Our prices include taxes and we have many taxes. 19% in this case. Adding to that, console makers like to make us pay more. @xdoubt4004
@@xdoubt4004 tax. and the stand and or disc drive.
@@ChrisGrump how much is one regular pro one? With no stand and disk drive
@@xdoubt4004800 euros, about 900 dollars
The slim and pro look so cheap compared to the original.
It's that ugly glossy plastic they've used. It makes it look like a toy. It's also shaped slightly differently so it looks weird in comparison to the original model.
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@@thebaldingapple2409 I heard they went with that glossy cover to save money.
Getting some stickers and deleting the piano black asap.
I appreciate my CFI-1015 console more after seeing the Slim/Pro. It's not by all that much but I do like that the original model was even a little overbuilt, and plus the ginormous heat sink.
The biggest scam in the gaming console History. 700$ without CD reader, without stand. Without edge controllers. Greedy companies.
I have a theory. COVID messed up a lot of manufacturing and Sony rushed to deliver the PS5 on time. Then finally once products came available again, they rebuilt the PS5 and added what was originally intended (hence the 8k badge on the original box)
Wrong rdna3 came out in 2023 no 2020 ps5 pro has rdna3 5nm soc
Ps5 should at least come with a Pro controller .
Those who are buying the pro, have the pro controller. If $700 is a lot of money to you, then there is a slim chance you even have the tech to appreciate what it can do. $700 isn’t even 1/2 the price of a quality OLed gaming monitor that’s powerful enough to enjoy this machinery
@@ShinzoX90 cope harder. mass spamming these comments trying to trick yourself into justification lmfao. hows that dogshit performance on alan wake 2 🤣
@@oxzak9093 I need no justification. I have a high end CPU and soon will also have the pro. All the things you want, I have. All the women you wish you could get, wish they had me. Your chick would instantly ghost you, just for a chance, to get pump and dumped by me.
Stay mad.
@ShinzoX90 lol someone's over compensating.. 🤏🙊
@@ShinzoX90 LGs 27 inch OLED monitor goes on sale for around $650 a lot on amazon and bestbuy. Id honestly rather buy that than a PS5 Pro
People keep saying it’s $200 more. The PS5 digital was $400. This is $300 more. Ridiculous. Switching to PC at this price
I spent 1500 on a pc(3080+amd5800x3d) a year and a half ago and the ps5 pro just now bested it in performance, don't waste your money bro just stick to consoles unless you're rich or something. especially with the price of new pc parts costing more than 1.5-3x what a console costs these days
Even a rtx 4060 TI is better or a Radeon RX 6800 which cost $350, you add a small motherboard, a processor, ssd, a tower, a fan and you have a cheaper, more powerful, more versatile PC and above all with a much larger catalog of games! lots of videos circulating on UA-cam with PCs that cost $900 or even less that are much more powerful
And keep in mind, in EU it's 800$. I know people in the US don't really care but it's a big market. Sony is turning into apple unfortunately.
what if you also factor the additional 1 TB storage
@@kuyakoiaguilar77671 tb of storage cost about $50.00 and knowing Sony the probably paid only $30
Austin: I’m reading the manual
Ken: you can read 🤣
Was the Ken quote meant to be a question?
I’m still pushing my PS4 Pro to the limit.
I think I just reached mines…. 😔 she did good and will forever be missed…. Time to move on I guess ):
This is what PS5 should look like back in 2020 but they saved the extra 4 teraflops just to call it “Pro” in 2024 😭💀
it would be using 300W and would have to be massive to be cool and silent, this new chip is on 4nm(a node that didn't exist comercially in 2020), the original PS5 SoC is on 7nm, also the architecture is a mix of RDNA3 and RDNA4, which also didn't exist in 2020.
🤦♂️
You do realise that some of the architecture in the GPU still hasn’t been released, even in 2024. So, how on earth can you release it in 2020 🤦
From what i herd, both the original "PS5" & "PS5 PRO" would of launched the exactly same year or months apart but due to the Pandemic chip makers halted the progression & development for the PS5 Pro. I recalled that SONY engineers said something about the idea of a "PS5 PRO" was already planned during the "PS4 PRO" released.
The Pro is almost as far from the PS5 as Series X is the Series S, it's literally only 1Tflop difference
1:36 u can read got me
Brooo, same hahaha
1:35 ladies and gentlemen, Austin in fact, can read
Pro means play remastered only
In South Africa, it cost the equivalent of $1110 . Soo not worth it. It ridiculous how we get ripped off here and they get away with it...
In south africa you don't have power all the time, so everything pluged to the grid is useless.
I am from South Africa too
Im from Belize and $1 US is equivalent to $2 Belize. So $700 US is equivalent to $1400 Belize excluding Tax. Very Expensive. When the PS5 came out a friend brought back one to sell he wanted $2400 Belize but he sold me for $1800 Belize. I will definitely pass on the PS5 Pro for now
@granthampson5917 Yep. In Europe 800 Euro, so 860 USD. I'm getting so fed up with Sony's antics
poor countries can't afford it
The secret is, it's a WASTE of money.
When you have money, a 1% increase in performance is worth the asking price on a product you enjoy.
@@ShinzoX90 No it isn't...And anyone who has money would know this....Which is the reason why they have money....Good decisions.
Thanks for the teardown!
The GOAT!
7:30 ah the cmos battery, the most important thing of the ps3 in case sony shuts the licencensing server down for ps3 cause thanks to that battery all your digital ps3 purchases (including dlc) will keep working and if that battery dies and needs to be replaced then if Sony's licencensing server for ps3 is down then all digital purchases are unplayable as it cannot receive the correct licence to play them
People don't know about these things. Good job spreading the knowledge.
At the end of the day, we should all be more careful about which games we buy.
It can all be shut down tomorrow. Cod Skins, ultimate teams, dlc, live services, all very volatile. Or we can lose our license to play them in the future like you said.
$700 is insane.
$250 just for a 2gb DDR5 cell, a slightly bigger PSU and going to 4nm from 6nm.
a tiny chip like this must cost at most $100, even on 4nm.
Sony could be selling these for $600 with the disc drive and still be making money.
700 for a PS5 Pro & yet F1 STILL has quality and performance modes
They never said games won't still have modes. They said "it will be easier than ever to choose"
Use your head at LEAST a little. You get F1 running at a locked 120fps. Wtf. Go find me a $700 pc that can even close to match this thing
@@zerosolis6664 Hate to inform you, but there are $600/$800 dollar PCs with 4060s and 5000 series CPUs hitting high fps in COD, Helldivers, Fortnight games. What a lot of people forget is PC has broad scale to what settings you turn off and on. Also, you can pop out the that 4060 down the line and sale it towards a Radeon 8000 or Nvidia 5000 or just wait for desired performance increase since the next 60 class card will be 30-40% better.
@@zerosolis6664easy when a rx 6800($350 btw) is faster than the pro and a 5600x(stomps on the ryzen 3600 ps5 pro cpu) for $130 an extra $300 for everything else and you got a ps5 pro killer that wont be cpu limited in games like the pro is/can ACTUALLY run 120fps in more than 5 games, on top of not having to wait for ps5 pro patches(or play games stuck to ps4 settings lol) and you get free online. Sony may as well be ripping you guys off because consoles usually smoke pc in value(at least on release day) but Sonys feeling confident(more like greedy lmao real price is $830 w/ stand and drive) like in the ps3 days because xbox is doing bad. The pro should really be $600 TOPS for it to be good value like the launch ps5/xbsx were.
Fun fact: CMOS batteries tend to last for around 10 years. And this thing has those at a quick access. Also the cooling on that thing might actually be crazy.
Anyone who has ever powered up their PC and had the BIOS demand that you insert the correct date & time would disagree with you, both that the battery did not last 10 years, and that it did not last 10 years after they replaced the battery. In the case of 1990's Apple computers a "bad" battery would not allow the Mac to power up at all. I had to replace the Date & Time battery on 6 laptops which demanded a complete strip down. I ended up scraping all 6 as it took hours to do just one. In the case of the xBox360 it did not have a battery, it set the clock through an Internet connection. If you could not connect, which is/was a common complaint, you could not have the correct time set, which could interfere with game save points, all of them having the same date & time, and therefore one could not resume from a game save point. So, if you disconnect power from your TV and reconnect the power, how is it that it sets the time, say on an LG Plasma? Obviously the technology exists. A PC battery may last if the power supply is always connected to the power outlet, but then you also run the chance of capacitors "pop-corning" or leaking. In the case of TVs, that's the Instant On ability.
It uses max 250W of power overall so cooling should be relatively easy
Should being the key word. Some Intel Z690 cmos batteries were dying before they were even 1 year old so ymmv
700 dollars and it doesn't have a disc drive. That's a statement, and my decision is to not buy it.
If $700 is a lot of money to you, you shouldn’t be spending time playing video games to begin with.
Can't you just buy a disk enclosure for an extra 20 bucks?
£700 in the UK which is $902
Most are buying digital now, that's why there's no disc drive, I bought digital but going back to physical cause we're only buying a license
Then don’t buy it. Not like it’s hurting Sonys pockets.
A week ago I bought a Ps5 slim digital for 377e in Germany on sale. It doesn't matter if the console has flaws or not, it's worth it for the money.
For the pro model Sony should have included the dual sense edge controller they literally are Apple with the pro making and expensive price
You wanna a controller of 240$ a extra tera of disk,more ram,some extra hardware and some extra power,all for the same price of a PS5 normal,people think companies do stuff to sell at cost price with 0 profit.
@@XNeohaggenX The controller costs nowhere near $240 to make
@@mitsuhhprobably costs 20 quid to make lol
and a lubricant...
@@sergeesteves my 25 pound 8bitdo performs better than dualsense edge in my opinion anyway , no way that controller should be 200
you didn't push the disk drive clips on the front completely through
They wasted their time adding 8k support, but it still has the same crappy hdmi bandwidth as base ps5 that doesn't support full rgb hdr in 120 hz mode. Pretty disappointing.
Psvr2 games that rely on dynamic resolution look much better. That's the only thing keeping me from returning this thing..
the ps5 pro ain’t even look ‘pro’ at least the ps4 pro looked like a beefed up ps4.
It's got 3 stripes on the side, that's as much pro as sony will get 🤣
@@CheesyX2 I was about the say the same thing 😂
Why does anyone even care how it looks? It should be a question of how much better is it ? If it’s better at all. They could sell you an amazing looking piece of plastic that looks like it came from the 3099 but if it runs like a Nintendo switch at 30 fps it’s still not good.
@ But your not looking at it it’s just taking space . How often really are you sitting there immersed in An amazing fantasy game taking in the lore and you just stop and go ima glad this console looks amazing or I wouldn’t like this game .
Do you not see the race stripes, clearly beefy
I originally called this a "lazy overpriced upgrade", my friend who is a hardware engineer said "A good hardware engineering job should only requires minor changes for improvement".
I guess, its a flex of PlayStation's hardware team on that front... *HOWEVER,* we both agreed Canadian $850.00 without a uhd blu-ray drive is ridiculous.
Imma be real i rarely use the blue ray drive anymore
Some of y’all. I get it’s not for everyone. But it’s worth it for some. Example-
I wanted a ps5 in my family room. So I was getting a second one anyway.
I work a job that allows me a 15% discount. I paid 650$ after tax.
The actual useable storage is approximately 1.2tb more. If you equate it to a nvme drive of the same size, you could equate that to another 50$ in value.
Disc drive- I understand a lot of you guys demand to have one. I usually do too. But the last couple years I’ve found myself buying far more digital games, I really only use the disc drive for movies.
So, FOR ME, the extra fidelity, frame rates, and storage, made it a worthy purchase for 650. Especially because I still had the first gen release.
Hey now, can you share your discount code? Haha, I'm teasing! And yeah, I agree - if you want something that's being marketed to you, and you've got the funds, buy it, and enjoy it! You don't need to listen to what others have to say, or deal with their negativity! Hope you're enjoying that new PS5 Pro! I might just buy one for myself!
16.7 Tflops is a joke in 2024 the Xbox sires x has 12 Tflops almost as much as the Ps5 pro. 1:45
PS5 Pro with disc drive installed is like someone is pregnant
It's pregnant with my PS6
No disk drive, no decent stand, no new games.....no thank you!!
You couldn't afford a pro brokie
No one ask your opinion either...xD
@@LegacyRap7777"LoL, jUsT sAy yOu'Re bRoKe" has to be one of the worst arguments I've ever heard. If you think you can judge people's financial stability, then we can judge your financial decisions as well. You have no right to call others "broke asf" just because they can't afford or won't spend on something incredibly overpriced
@TheEngieTF2 sit down brokie
@@TheEngieTF2how cute, a brokie defending a fellow brokie
so Austin’s changed his glasses twice since 2017… it still feels wierd
So with the brackets can we stand our ps5 pros upright without having issues?
I heard the older ps5s had issues with thermal paste or the Liquid Metal when standing upright?
That problem was hugely overblown. Of course you heard the very vocal few that had an issue, but you wouldn't hear anything from the millions that didn't. My 2020 console has been upright its entire life and is fine.
4:36 the series x is so much quieter, my launch day console is still dead silent, my 1 year old ps5 is a lot louder
The Xbox design is so much functionally better than the ps5 (looks wise it depends on preferences)
4:04 I was expecting to see 60 fps but it's not an option to see 😢
Sony telling people the current PS5 isnt good enough but here buy the upgrade
I am so impressed by Xbox series x power efficiency and sound
@SvenPilecki it's cheaper than the base sx unlike the ps5 pro
Same. I have the pro ordered, but I appreciate my xsx very much
Gaming PC is where it's at 😊
Kudos to Sony engineers for making the battery accessible. That alone will save owners hundreds of dollars. A technician should not need to remove the CPU heat-sink to get to the battery. Doing so increases the chance of the liquid metal thermal "pad" being compromised. I'd have to look at your prior strip-down vids again to see if that indeed would have been the case, but, iirc, in one model the battery was right under a heat-sink.
The lay out and reason everything looks so similar is Because the PS5 slim has a binned ps5 pro chip they knew what they were doing its a smart tactic to save money and charge the consumer more money
It's not the same chip the ps5 pro has 5nm chip it's different
I still prefer my old Ps4 with an SSD installed. Good enough for me. Costed me a while 90$ for everything
A homeless man enjoys his tent and can of beans, but I’m not going to ask his thoughts on fine wine.
@@ShinzoX90 holy crap what a burn.
@@ShinzoX90alright I'll give you that one 😂
@@ShinzoX90 Wow, that's just evil.
I think they just enabled frame generation only on ps5 pro, like the ps5 slim also has the same spec, but it's sofware locked
I wonder is there someone out there flashing PS5Pro firmware to a PS5Basic/Slim
No, the PS5 pro use RDNA4 GPU with harware accelerated AI upscaler. This is not a software lock. And the chip is bigger and require more power and more thermal dissipation capabilities.
it's physically a different graphics processor. it uses an updated architecture from AMD, i wouldnt be surprised if it uses frame gen, but it is a different chip
@ShiroDv it seems they could add it to the ps5. They are doing this to force crazed fanboys into spending all their pay check on the pro and not their rent for a month.
The Slim does not have the same specs as the pro lmao
12:56 mm² not m². Totally different.
Ps5 pro for the remaster games and remake😂
Facts. Gta 6 ps4 back compat.
At this point just buy a PC, PS5 PRO not worth the 700-800$ price.
Sony is just milking fanboys with this.
i have a pc my pro is arriving tomorrow
It’s a dead industry, no money anymore.
@@wolfdeathseal5624u want a cookie champ?
Pc ain’t gunna be as good as this for same price
@@wolfdeathseal5624Offcourse your pro is coming tomorrow when it releases Friday
this guy is really fit to cast the riddler
Or pennywise
Not worth it at $700...
Very worth it
Not worth it FOR YOU lol.
I buy everything and it's not worth a 1000 canadian with a disc drive and stand.... total crazy...
Cry bout it lol.
@@borderlandsdude3543 Think you meant without a disc drive and stand not with.
Super hyped about the launch, now I can go get a normal PS5 disk edition on a discount :D
this is the guy who hyped up the $600 xbox that has no performance upgrades lol
That part 🎯
True, but at least the $600 Xbox Series X still has the disc drive 📀, plus the same larger 2TB of storage (and even a limited edition paint/finish)
@@Keither754 I'll rather take a performance upgrade than something so useless as a disc drive.
@Bigzoe202Gaming people that think like you are the reason game companies say "consumers should get used to not owning games." You know the things that are shipped out half finished and cost $70 physically and digitally. And also require us to be online all the time even if it's a single player storymode
There is performance mode even in Xbox Series S, so what are you talking about?
Amateurs talking about things they dont understand anything about
Xbox series S with game pass looking like a good value now. You can get a used Series S and 3 years of game pass
$700 no disc drive and no games worth playing dang
its $1300 here in australia
No games to play? I guess 7 good games is 0 good games now.
loads of games worthing playing 😂
You don't need a disc if you don't have games.
@@HardBishop true.
You forgot to mention how scalpers have finally bought up all the disk drives right now and are trying to resell them back for double the price. 🤦🏽♂️💀
1:36 You can read?
Ken 2024
😂😂
Zen 2? Hell even my PC is more up to date and it is pretty much just a semi-modern budget build nowadays.
The liquid metal in the ps5 and pro will need attention before the cmos battery ever will.
Ummm, no.
Do you have a GMC Hummer EV?
What's the point of a ps5 pro? Serious question. 80% of games aren't optimised for the base Ps5 yet, so.. i mean.. i really don't get it?
For me its better frames on games that are struggling right now. Also I hate the blurry image in some games performance mode. PRO fixes that by running quality mode in 60 fps instead of 30.
@fallb0rn For a few games, I guess, yes. But I want to play ALL games at least 1440p@60. Also, older games like AC black flags, etc.
When money doesn’t matter to you, getting a 5% increased experience from a product you use, is better than not having it.
Its almost like a con.
Like they dont expect any major games in years to come and so they bs people into playing released games again cuz it looks/plays "better".
@ShinzoX90 Money doesn't really matter to me, especially as a hard-core gamer. I love the newest tech and gadgets. But I fail to see the point.. I think it's a disgusting move from Sony to not include a disc drive, not have ANY older ps4 games "enhanced."
Thanks for testing sound and thermal. I’ve decided to hold off my PS5 pro purchase. The noise/thermal issues from PS3 and PS4 ruined my gaming experience and don’t want to try another until Sony figures it out.
700 dollars for no disc drive, no Dualsense edge controller, and only 1 controller, wow Sony. What the hell is this shit? 😃
It’s a superior product designed for people who don’t think $700 is a lot of money. You aren’t the target audience.
I mean at this point your better off buying a gpu and build yourself a pc. Even save more not requiring a subscription to play online and generally PC games discount faster then console games. Its a no brainer now.
Exactly.
Definitely not buying it, rather stick to my original PS5 and PC with RTX 3080.
An interesting takeaway from this analysis is that the Series X is actually a pretty well darn designed console: quieter, lower power consumption, while keeping roughly the same temperature. Who would have thought Microsoft had nailed it this time. It's just a shame about the games though...
As a person who upgraded to an XSX from a PS4 Pro, I couldn't agree more! Unfortunately for Xbox, the previous console generation was the one where most people acquired a library of games which thanks to Backwards Compatibility, combined with diminishing returns, constitutes a major obstacle against switching platform. Sony obviously knows this, and aren't afraid exploit this advantage to the maximum... Although I think they are overplaying their hand a bit if they think they can continue with this pricing for the next console generation!
Fun fact the original ps5 is the true pro model
Exactly. Thank you. It doesn't have those features but they can easily have done it on the base model. Current gen doesn't need an upgraded version at all they're very powerful. It's just devs haven't utilized the full potential yet. To me it's just waste of money and a cash grab. I mean why waste so much money where in 3 years PS6 will come out?
@@MikeTheGreekcope 😂😂😂😂😂
@@MikeTheGreek I think you're massively underestimating the power of PSSR, and the capabilities of it for the future. I also feel like you're overestimating the current power of the PS5 as most games are failing to hit 60 FPS at native 4K resolution. That's the whole selling point behind the Pro is that PSSR is supposed to bridge the gap for games to run at 60 FPS.
@@faintsignalx*120hz
Small mistake I noticed but the ps4 enhancement mode is actually essentially just an ai sharpening filter over 1080p ps4 games. PS4 games will already run better on the base PS5, so you don't need the pro for it. Although in rare occassions games that don't hit 60fps on the base ps5 can possibly do so on the pro. Also this sharpening filter doesn't work on games that run at any resolution above 1080p internally.
In Sweden it's 967 USD disc drive not included ofcourse
Yeah, 10490 SEK... Sony didn't even attempt to make the price seem a bit less egregious by making it 9999 SEK!!!
PS5 and steam deck is all I need
Wow, a huge middle finger didn't come out when you opened the box? 😂
The real Austin Og's comments in first 10 Mins Love your Content Bro 🙏🏽💯💯💯
Biggest scam in console history! This console is straight garbage.
All consoles have been garbage since 2014+
@@FlamespeedyAMV false! It's consoles pushing the industry! These big gaming articles, award shows, commercials etc etc because of consoles.
A packed release schedule, content delays, and historic IP pushed console to the next level in 2023
Console will be the biggest games market sector this year after mobile. Console’s impressive +7.4% growth will far outpace mobile (+0.8%) and downloaded/boxed PC (+1.6%).
Several factors are driving the growth of console gaming:
2022 was slower-than-expected for console, despite some big releases (like Elden Ring), so a portion of this year’s growth is more of a return to form.
Major studios are launching new entries to successful franchises, including Zelda, Spider-Man, Mario, Forza, Starfield, Diablo, Baldur’s Gate, and Final Fantasy, after years without mainline releases.
The pandemic forced the AAA games industry to delay releases even further. Have meaning when you say something.
Believe it or not, the PS5 Pro sometimes performs on par with, or even below, the RX 6800-a GPU that’s already four years old! But hey, consoles take years to develop, so by the time they drop, PC tech is miles ahead. Console gamers, thoughts?
I’m not going to give you my thoughts. You are on a video about the ps5 pro, not PC. I’m not going to go on a cooking video and ask people their thoughts on super charged V8 engine.
@@ShinzoX90 went from apples to apples, to apples to sofas.
My thoughts are thought I like pressing a button and sitting on my couch. I don't want a room with a desk and a monitor and a whole pc to manage with parts needing replaced and games needing drivers updated to work. I just wanna plug it in and play man. I traded 2 consoles in for the ps5 pro and the next thing I buy for the actual price of the pro will be an oled tv. Why do some of you care so much about what others do in their free time with their money?
700$ just for a new design im good
not just a design it has hardware improvements lol
Ken with the "you can read?!" 🤣😂
On paper it should perform better, its a very very minor upgrade
When you have money, a 1% increase in performance is worth the price.
@@ShinzoX90 you will be apart of the %1 of people that buy it lol
@@Carlostry and you will part of the 99% that wish they could
@@ShinzoX90 i will rather buy a Pc with better specs carry on.
@@Carlostry those of us buying already have the pc money can buy. Enjoy your dented can of beans for dinner tonight.
many complain about no disc drive but the pro has 2 tb ssd instead of 1 on the og/slim ps5 so this alone is worth the price of the drive. some complain for no reason i think. the problem is more the availability of disc drives which are hard to find right now.
external NVME are CHEAP - you can add 2tb for less than the drive costs. 700 without a drive is out of line
@@t4nk3d402 1 tb in canada is over 100 for a good brand its the same price that the disc drive. i dont talk of a cheap ssd brand.
@@t4nk3d402 why bother with an external drive when you can have an internal ssd that will also play your ps5 games ? as far i know , you cant play ps5 games from an external drive but can only store them and need to put it on internal drive to be able to play them.
@@maniaque37 bad wording, not really external but the additional drive you can add. It's a second drive not the built in internal storage
Pro louder than Slim???? 😮 wtf 🤦♂️
I hate my Slim humming noise, I even image how that Pro could be annoying 🤦♂️🤷♂️
I think you maybe experiencing coil wine does it get worse when you play higher fps games?
@@Andre217 no, it starting humming instantly when I launch any game, even in a game menu. That humming since I bought it 🤷♂
I guarantee you that PS4 image enhancement would be able to run on the base PS5 without issue.
Ps5 pro more like, ps5 no
hahahahah... no.
They really tried to market a negative such as “discless” as something positive by calling it “disk free”. What? 😂
Is the secret that for 700usd it sucks?
Convince yourself it’s not superior if that helps you sleep.
@ not superior? To what? It’s a rip off duder. Come On Man… shimershanna
Why do I have a feeling that heatsink being on there the way it is might be a problem in the future?
Because you don’t have the money to buy it and are looking for reasons to convince yourself it isn’t worth it.
@@ShinzoX90 Lol, I'd buy a new desktop before I'd buy that thing.
@@nicesmile3125 I’ll buy both.
And the the biggest secret is (drumroll please) the price at $700 with no disc drive, just improve a handful of PS4 games and almost no PS5 game! What a joke!
13:40 there is no nanometer technology? small but too much?
Just got the Series X in all white it’s clean as hell in person
I got one of those as well. I loved the series s and very happy they made an all white series x. Traded my other xsx and ps5 slim for the pro. Paid about $100.
Well done on buying an irrelevant console!!! There has never been a generation that Sony haven’t won
Xbox series X digital $ 700 compared to PS 5 pro Digital $ 1200 in Australia lol
@@LordBonesaw I have had both they are the same lol
@@LordBonesaw pretty sure its widely accepted that Xbox 360 absolutely dominated that generation
Austin, you're good with this kind of stuff. Can you by any chance clarify if this system is still RDNA 1.5 /2 like people are saying or is it RDNA 3 with RDNA 4 ray-tracing ? Some people are saying the upgrade for this PRO is minimal. Any way you can clarify this ?
2:10 Wow really ? You need a PS5 Pro for that ?
Even on the Xbox Series S you can run normally capped at 30fps Xbox One Games at 60fps or even 120.
Yea, with shitty 520p resolution :-)
I'd love to see Austin do a video comparing the difference between PS4/PS4 pro vs PS5/PS5 Pro. Would love to see how that looks considering people forget that pro versions are still quite a recent thing in gaming, of course I started with NES way back when though lol
0:23 not to mention they got rid of the 8K and placed 4K 120 🤣🤣
There was 4k 120 already. They’ve just got rid of 8k label
Lol I write for PSU, was cool seeing our website pop up during the video. Thank you Austin
I ended up getting one, I haven't had a console besides a switch since the ps2 and only been on PC. Thought fuck it might as well get the better version.
In your case it isn't unreasonable, it's justifiable. Those who already own PS5s probably won't see a reason to upgrade, to trade-in their old unit and get a new upgraded unit. Oh, I'm sure there will be some, but it many not be that many. But, because it is Digital Only one has to go into it knowing that they will probably need to pay $160 a year to play games, or pay whatever price is asked when buying a Digital download game. So, do you want to pay $69.99 for the newest game, for the base game, $109 for the Deluxe, or $169.99 for the Premium Deluxe with all the DLCs, costumes, weapons, power-ups, maps, etc., game?
Welcome back to the playstation nation👍👍👍👍👍
GIVE ME SOME THERMAL PASTE , I NEED TO INSTALL THE HEAT SINK LMAO
The only difference I see is the 700$
@@marwanal-yamany1563 860 usd for us Europeans
buy yourself some glasses maybe
$700 for no disk drive, 1 extra tb, and a TINY MINISCULE performance boost is unacceptable when I could buy a PS5 Slim with Disk Drive, 2 extra controllers, and the newest CoD Vault Edition for the same price.
The best combo is PC + Switch... I just sell my PS5 after buying all of my games on Steam and plug it on my LG 65 120hz. The best move ever. NO PS+, the controller I want (Love 8bitdo) and running RDR2 4k 120fps, not a fucking PS4 version. PC = liberty.
what gpu do you have
Real
@@giselle319 RTX 4070 Super
Gaming PCs would be so much smaller if we could just solder all of the components onto the board like this.
It feels like if Apple came out with a console.
Does the hdmi2.1 support full 48gbps bandwidth ?? Unline the base model
The battery placement is a great thing and I hope all consoles are like this moving forward..
It's a money grab for the suckers--er--faithful PS5 Sony fan boys. The rest of us know not to waste our money on this.
Damn bro I traded in my ps5 and an old series s and paid 190 for a ps5 pro I'm such a sucker
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