Build Your Own Dry Sump For A Fraction* Of The Cost
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Matt, your honesty and attention to detail and comedic timing are incredible. Your videos are not just entertaining, they are uplifting.
now that you mention it, your right. lol
I lost it at $100 bill being lit on fire
@@mr_voron relax, only about 4 cents was destroyed
D-d-d-dang! There's no WAY I could ever afford to save that much money. You truly are an inspiration. All hail
This is exactly summing up the frustration from a lot of DIY projects, Love it!
Almost couldn't take it. My pain still is too fresh.
It pretty much sums up why I have projects and not just stuff I need to fix / build. Stuff I need to fix gets done the proper way and projects get done in the most ludicrously over complicated way. There's not many problems in life that can't be solved by a bloody minded stubbornness and a refusal to face reality... And an Arduino.
But it's not frustration it's the adventure of going on the unknown path that's the fun part.
Sure you can just go buy the parts and they'll just fit together... But you wouldn't have an ISO grid on the bottom.
I feel seen and attacked at the same time.
@@TravisFabel it’s more like going on the unknown path thru bushes with sharp thorns parallel to well maintained paved road ;)
Sounds like my style of DIY money saving adventures. Looks great though ;)
*IM 52* when I got to about 48 I stopped saving money on projects - I have saved SO MUCH money since I stopped saving money...
What I do now is I buy the professional thing I need - my eyes water at the cost every time - but at the end of the year I have MONEY. Actual spare money.
definitely is the way i do my projects
As an aerospace guy, the nodes never line up with anything. You are forgiven.
I'm definitely going to have to use that fractional logic on my future projects. Just tell people (the wife) that you spent a fraction of the price of a new thing by building it your self, and don't bother with the trivial detail that your fraction is an improper one.
Just show her the material costs. Yes, dear, this lump of aluminium, couple sheets of metal, fasteners and hoses were only a few dollars! The legit setup would be over $1000, I have saved much money! Please do not look at the thousands of dollars in tools, machinery and lost time surrounding those dollars.
Reminds me of ToT, why buy something for $10 when you can make it yourself for free, and a full machine shop, and $30 in materials
@@helplmchoking But if I have to something similar again, then I already have the tools for it. But for the most time, these types of projects tend to need different tools each time 😂
Q. How can I make a small fortune building cheap racecars?
Matt: Well, start with a large fortune...
Great!
"To become a millionaire by racing cars, start out as a billionaire."
I look forward to uploads from this channel more than any other on UA-cam regardless of what the project is. As an engineer and lover of tinkering and working on cars I love the way you talk through a project and are humble and sarcastic about the entire design process. Cant wait to see what's next!
MacroMachines is a good one, too. Dude is building a model a roadster from basically scratch. 95% of the car he built. Dude even sandcasted his own pedals. I think the only things he didn't make is the frame, axles, wheels. He even made a plate to bolt a jag I6 to a model a transmission.
Agreed on the fave channel. Quite sadly, I'm constantly checking UA-cam for his latest post
The best way to spend money is starting out planning to save money! Lovely video, Matt!
But look on the bright side; all those tools will pay for themselves after the next 25 conversions....
Don't count the cost of tools in your budget, you can and will use it on other projects ;)
Yea yeah! Hopefully 😂! All hail mighty algorithm :)
That’s what I keep telling myself…
Flawless victory, now you can amortise off the investment made in this project against the potential future certainty of buying a 3rd and 4th engine, the labour of having someone else fit it and more! Plus whenever you use the CNC machine you can start moving the cost onto that one's bill. Soon this project will be in negative spend and actually earning you theoretical money. Not real money of course. Thats already gone.
:D
Matt's gonna do a budget dry sump from repurposed OEM parts - goddamn, finally! I keep seeing people on GRM saying they wanna do this but it never happens for one reason or another.
It's here! Can't wait to see my boy Matt finally crack this thing - and along the way maybe I'll learn why the commercial dry sump systems are so expensive, what the tricks and compromises are for a locost/DIY approach. Oh, this is gonna be great!
Oh.
This entire thing is maybe the best piece of deadpan comedy I've seen in years.
Telling mom hello slayed me
I loved this episode. I knew immediately that fraction was going to be an improper one. But hey, I feel the pain on this one. Thanks for showing how this stuff really goes on projects!
Awesome video! That's usually how it goes whenever I say "I'll build it myself and save money." HAHA
My mom said to tell you "Hi" back.
Feels like a window into my garage. ALL HAIL THE ALGORITHM!
I love this channel, it's so accurate.
I'm about to "save" some money rebuilding the transmission in my "low miles" Econoline. I think I'll save about a thousand by buying all of the specialty tools first, and then save the rest by upgrading to a stage 1 rebuild kit so I don't have to save all of this money a second time.
Did you ever get your Econoline Transmission fixed?
Love your videos, all hail Al Goors Rythem.
On engine number 3... :) Can you make just the motor tilt like a motorcycle as it goes to the corners?
I'm envisioning hydraulic cylinders
maybe hang the engine with chains inside the engine bay? And uh some sketchy flex shaft that delivers power to the back?
I can see it!!!
Porsche style active engine mounts? That'd be sick, not sure how much the rest of the drivetrain would like it though
@@GNARBOSS rope shafts thick ones
@@helplmchoking that Porsche dynamic dampening motor mount looks 😎 and it's definitely a downsized version of what I was thinking
Super fast mat is fairly smart, he could probably figure out the degrees it needed to rotate around the crank axis at maximum lateral Gs in order to maintain oil pressure. But I think 60° would be enough
You could call the Dry Sump system “dead pan” to suit your humour 😐👍🏻🇦🇺
For some reason, I don’t get mad when Matt goes way over budget, any other channel I think I’d mind
I started watching this video with the knowledge that spending slightly more than what it would cost to buy it would also count as an improper fraction... So the ending was not unexpected
wow... is that going to space?
When you say “a fraction”, do you mean like 3/1th of the cost.
fractions can be greater than one
82/25th of the cost
10:07
@@lewa_j - I commented prior to watching, it was a pure fluke that I chose a fraction greater than one. I also like to eat 3/1 of a normal portion of food ;-)
My mum says hi back 👋
Fair play, I would have just gone super cheap and baffled the sump with a horizontal plate.
It's what we do in all our race cars made with street car engines. Particularly important when running a formerly FWD traverse engine RWD longitudinal...still overfill those about a quart as drainback under extended Gs is not quite what was designed from the factory.
Would it have been easier/cheaper to do an electric scavenging pumps? Redundancy (2 or 3 separately powered pumps) + put some magnetic encoders and flow meters on them to flash a big red light at you if they stop spinning.
I would also suggest some sort of oil level sensor in the tank.
Most of the electric pumps I've seen suggested for this purpose (for dry sumps and remote mount turbos) are just relabeled transfer pumps, and aren't designed to move oil at operating temperature and will eventually fail..
Though I'd be very interested to see some are actually suitable!
@@MeatPoPsiclez - I'm sure there are some food-grade hot oil pumps, but now you're back in Priceytown.
@@MeatPoPsiclez Sort of reminds me of those "electric turbos" that were sold on eBay and the like. 🤭
This was clearly the most bugdet friendly way forward, I wouldn't expect anything less!
I love cost effective DIYs! 👍🏻
All summed up at 8:22.
And yet I still don’t learn…
Personally I think you cut too many corners to keep on budget. /s
Matt I have to say these are my absolute favourite videos on UA-cam atm. Quick question though…
How can you afford this stuff😭
Patreon!
Just barely, that's how.
Matt can only afford a fraction of it
Think of it as optimizing the amount of money you have
@@davidbrown8365 82/25 last I saw.
what about going downhill for a couple minutes?
Mom says "hi" right back at you!
I feel this video so bad. A few years ago I wanted to make a backpack for a specific hobby instead of spending $100ish for one... $250 later I had a backpack...
how much amps does the water pump draw? it'll be interesting to see at which rpm the electricals will hit 13.5v with the headlights, blinkers and water pump on
I don’t know, I might need to put in a PWM controller that’s based on coolant temperature rather than just running the pump at full blast all the time. We’ll see
@@SuperfastMatt It would be interesting to see! I am looking at converting my 1991 Jaguar XJ6 to electic fans and yes, on-off control is simpler, but pwm would be nice!
3380$ just for that router?
Or was there more included in that price jump?
Seems a little bit high to me, for something build like a MPCNC, with unsupported shafts as linear guides and such.
My mom says hi Matt
Matt:
You can use plain-old oil pumps if you weep a tiny bit of pressurized engine oil back to their inlets. One drop of oil every second and they will run at 7000 rpm pumping otherwise dry air forever. (I tested - it works)
FOR THE ALGORITHM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The typical Bespoke baffled Oil Sump wouldn't have been easier ?? Naww lets' complicate the Hell out of a simple solution.
Yes yes I enjoyed your video, mostly beause I have made a few dry sumps myself. A few were made by the engine itself by being old and using all the oil in the wet sump until it was a dry sump, others were made the easy way such as throwing too much money at the project, which looks much like youre currantly doing, others by combining used oil pumps simmilar to what you had in mind until you chickened out because they had no bearings etc. Just for the records, these pumps work fine when used as scavenge pumps as the never run completely dry. Think about it and you´ll discover why. Thanks for the fun vid🙂
Sorry for the late comment, but I can't, for the life of me, find out why those pumps wouldn't get oil starved and seize...
@@tojiroh They did.
@@h-j.k.8971 They did what?
@@tojiroh sieze uup
@@h-j.k.8971 that's not what you said above. You said they could be used as scavenge pumps since they wouldn't run completely dry, and you didn't elaborate any further. Do you have anything to add?
Oppps. Least you had fun and learnt a lesson your probably never have to repeat anyway right? Cant put a cost on experience and knowledge right lol
Looking forward to learning how the air-oil separator is made! 99% of my automotive technical knowledge is from reading. Finally Matt is showing the actual parts and how they work. Thanks Matt!
i might be wrong but the tall reservoir probably acts as a air separator in itself.
Inlet at top tangential to circumference. You get cyclonic separation
I could be wrong (I'm probably wrong) but I think it works similarly to a swirl pot, which Matt talked about in one of his Tesla Jag cooling system videos
@@zackrogers9334 You are not wrong. Swirl Pot. I had a dry-sump in my previous Caterham. The reservoir looked just like a supersized version of the OEM swirl-pot in in the cooling system of my previous Lotus Europa.
710, yaaaas
Been looking to make a diy drysump for a while now
This reminds me so much of Austin Kleon's life of a project. You always start with "It's the best idea ever!" only to eventually fall into into the abyss. But by then, you're already too involved to just drop it, so you keep on pushing until you reach the "It sucks, but it's not as bad as I thought" moment.
Yeah next time just order the daily pan scan it CNC it and return it. Just don't sell it and you probably won't get a law suit.
Clicked on the video 17 seconds after it posted. Got two 15 second unskippables.
Excuse me, Sir. Do you have a moment to talk about Brave Browser?
I have the video set to skippable ads, like always. do you usually get unskipable ads?
Depending on the platform you're using, install AdBlock Plus or similar - I never see ads in Matt's videos.
I think I wasn’t clear, 😅. I was just excited to see the next video. Always looking forward to seeing the next stage of any of the projects!
I love the 710 descriptor. There is a joke: a new driver gets a low oil light, calls his dad to ask about it. His dad says buy a quart, take off the oil cap and dump it in there. The kid cannot find the oil cap. 'dad, all I see is the 710 cap.'
6:20 The way Matt phrased "The Better Idea" solution puts so much joy in my mechanic's heart
All hail the algorithm.
The oil pan looks awesome. 👍
Parts come and go. Tools stay. Expensive tools go into inheritance.
I don’t think I’ve ever laughed that much at a car build video, fantastic work!
Super Project 😎🏁☑️ Greetings From Denmark 🇩🇰🇺🇸🤘🏻
Who's that Al Gorithm person anyway???
No, no, no. It's Al Gore's jazz band, The Al Gore Rhythms.
@@A.J.1656 😄😅😂😅😄
Look into how Honda did it in their CB750.
Thanks for your videos dude!! This was the channel that got me into engineering
I see no wedding ring, these fractions are starting to make sense now. All hail the algorithm.
Keep up the videos, just pure amazing content!
You're saving yourself so much money you could probably build a land speed car or something......
I love your videos lol awesomeness and your spending habits are perfectly angled with your reasoning... Wonderful mind jelly.
for 9/10ths the retail cost!
You my friend have a great future as a Defense Contractor.
"We've designed a new missile that is perfect for taking out terrorists in Toyota Hiluxes!"
"How much does it cost?"
"$50,000 per round"
"How much does a used Toyota Hilux cost?"
"About $10,000"
"We'll take 2000. If we don't spend our budget, Congress will cut it next year."
The oil pan designing part reminds me of many of my own projects. I will design things to be as efficient as I can until I remember that I don't need to add complexity to chase diminishing returns for performance that doesn't matter.
For shorter transient stuff you can design a good wet sump that comes close and it's dead simple. Not good enough for long sweepers, however I got around a long sweeper with mine without losing pressure pulling about 1G (not great, I know, but if you saw what I was in you'd be impressed). You did the right thing going dry sump, but LOL @ the costings :-D
Why buy a kit for $1500 when I can do it myself for $5,000?
Love your videos man, keep up the great work!
I find it is the nuts and bolts that inflate the budget. Who counts the price of nuts and bolts? Until one realizes that they have outpaced the price of fuel! Ouch!
This reminds me of the old adage of "Why buy it when you can build it for 3, 4, or even 10 times the price?"
i always buy parts for every eventuallity and therefore spend too much money and end up with leftover parts.
"Never buy anything that you can make yourself in a few weekends and for less than triple the cost."
Tell your mom and dad I says hi!
All hail the Algorithm!
Wouldn't a wet sump with a tube and a weight at the end work? The tube will always hang towards where the oil is. You showed some weighted metal contraption but it looked overly complicated.
ALGORITHM
AAAAAALLLLLGOOOOORRRRIIIIITHM!
So relatable. Saving money = spending 3 times the amount needed for a finshed product on tools and a lot of time to get a mediocre result
Me with any project! "I can make that for cheaper" ... well ot was at least funner
Sure, you can buy a new car, but you can technically design and build one yourself for a fraction of the price!
Oh dear, 3 projects on the go at once.
I tried isogrids once in a 3d print and found space engineers in my home for no reason, glad I'm not the only one
Saving money, the fun way. Great job :)
You save money in the same way that I save money. I must stop doing that.
Oh dear... I suggest that you look at a 1950's British motorcycle dry sump system. It is a reciprocating double pump driven by a crankshaft cam, the large bore pump is the scavenge, the smaller one is feed from the tank (located higher than the engine) to the engine. Simple but effective. The sump in those engines was truly dry. It also has the added advantage of keeping the oil cooler.
Is love to see you do a GRM $2000 challenge car.
Would it be possible to put the used oil pumps inside the oil reservoir somehow?
Make sure your "710" cap is on correctly :D
You need your own television show... so damn funny...
I'm so glad that I'm not the only one following this engineering "process"
I know shit about cars, but you are fantastic, its nice to see someone so passionate and funny at the same time ;)
Matt, that was brilliant. The whole idea of a "..fraction of the cost..." is genus. A fraction where the the numerator is many times a multiple of the denominator is a "..is too, a legit fraction.." . You must be an engineer, because you clearly have an engineer's understanding of mathematics.
Seriously the best channel on UA-cam. All Hail the Algorithm!!!
You're excellent
I hail the algorithm!
Mom says hi back!
Vulgar fractions are the best fractions.
wow i wish we could save money like you Matt!! 🙂
Rebuilt an old Nascar 3 stage for a 4 cylinder and got used tanks and such. It was cheaper, but not by a huge factor for sure. I guess it helped that no one was still producing the kits for the engine I had.
Fractions are FRIENDS!!
now that engine will be bulletproff for reals
Or you could buy Chevy LS oil pumps that are driven off the crank & make an adapter to fit your crank. The pumps are around $40. You would need to mill some adapter plates to simulate the engine block surfaces.
An adapter to mate with a CB Honda engine??
Does the algorithm read comments? Cause, I'll say it for everybody here- We all mashed that Like button, but the algorithm is a sorry sack of sh*t, and needs to be probed by aliens. Anally.
blasphemy, you shell not curse to the mighty algorithm, otherwise you will get pixelated till you die, hail the algorithm
Im my lotus 7 i just add one more litre off oil 🤣