20,000 VOLT BURNER IGNITION VS 10,000 VOLT BURNER IGNITION
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- Опубліковано 13 лют 2020
- Testing 10,000 Volt Oil Burner Transformer VS 20,000 Volt Oil Burner Electronic Ignitor.
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Didn't know how they work. Now I know! Tnx!
Did you connect the white and blue cords together? I'm trying to test mine today and I am confused with the two cords. I connected the blue to the positive and the white to the neautral and it didn't work for me so I swapped them and that didn't work, help!!
Power is applied to the blue/white stripe wire and neutral hooks up to the white wire. You will need to jump across the transformer springs with an insulated screwdriver or a tester made to test transformers to see if it sparks.
If you do not get a spark your transformer is bad or you do not have incoming power. Verify you have power coming into the transformer.
Be careful when testing these it can be dangerous.
@@furnacetech2581 Thanks so much for clarifying, there is an incredible amount of conflicting information online, and careful yes always :)
@@furnacetech2581 I tested it, it works! I'm still alive lol and after watching the video again seeing you placing your arm over the transformer while plugged in scared me. I wouldn't even do that, in fear of creating a path but that's me.
Also I had electricity I could see literally coming through the probe wires!!!
Instead of using the screwdriver method I attached two fat wires all cooper from a nice set of jumper cables and connected the ends of those above some wood cookies.
Literally about 4-5 inches down the wire from the arc it was coming right out of the insulated wire onto the board. That was incredible!!!
@@lilrida649 I am happy you were able to test it! It is pretty cool watching it work!!! Now that you see how strong the spark is and watching my video again you can definitely see how dangerous these can be! I was a bit close while plugging in the power.
Does the higher voltage of the igniter improve combustion? Does it tax the ceramic insulation of the electrodes?
Stronger spark which help to ignite. The combustion is improved by adjust the fuel and air mixture using combustion tuning equipment. As for the electrodes, not 100% sure and every system is different because the controller may or may not turn off the spark after ignition had been established! I hope this helps!
I have the bigger transformer like yours running my Tesla coil and it works great,but can it handle 240 volts A/C???
I would only hook it up to the power source it’s rated for posted on the data plate
@@furnacetech2581 ok thanks.
My 30 year old burner was shutting down every few days and sometimes would take several seconds to ignite. Could not figure out why. Did the screwdriver test and seemed to be good arc. Good oil flow, new nozzle and electrodes. Replaced old transformer with a new Beckett electronic igniter for $50. Problem solved! Now she fires up instantly. The electronic igniters have much higher voltage.
Good job getting this fixed! This can be a tricky one to narrow down. When these transformers get warm they can get weak if there is something wrong inside. When they cool down, they arc great!
@@furnacetech2581 Thanks. Do the solid state ones also get weak when warm? How many years should I get out of the new $50 Beckett igniter?
I that would hurt if it got you , permanently Lol. Thanks for the informative video..👍
can you swap a 20000 volt for a bad 10000 volt transformer
yes
Transfermer output AC or Dc
The small one changes AC input power into DC voltage!
Thats wrong. Its still ac voltage with the 10kv unit now maybe the 20kv has some capacitors to flatten out the sine wave but thev10kv unit is stil 60 hertz hence all the the reason it sizzles. Thats the polarity switching or alternating 60 times a second. High voltage dc outputs like a van der graff generator releases one big zap.
@@mds1986ms correct the small one outputs dc and the 10,000 v transformer outputs ac power. I should have been more clear with my last reply
@@furnacetech2581
Eh thats ok i didnt need to get so long in the tooth with the correction.
So since the small one is DC i wonder if they can be setup in series and/or parallel just for the sake of tinkering and being the potential recipient of a darwin award.
Oh well now that you edited it i just seem like some redundant jerk. Hahahahaha! Oh well i shall leave it up for all posterity to observe.
Let's get some facts straight here. The 10,000 volt transformer is a true 10,000 nominal volts output unit. The 20,000 volt electronic ignitor is not even close to 20,000 volts. Most are rated between 14,000 and 18,000 peak voltage. The nominal voltage is typically around 6,000 volts. So understand by going to the electronic ignitor you are actually downgrading! Also, any good tech would know you don't test an electronic ignitor with a screwdriver. Unlike the transformers which are made of copper and iron, the electronic ignitors are solid-state and are made up of over 100 electronic components inside. Using a screwdriver to test will at the very least shorten it's life span and in some cases just plain burn it out!!!!
Thank you for your helpful advice!
Very good reply PJ, Also these solid state ignitors produce a Hz cycle rate of 15,000 to 30,000 Hz!!!!!! That could put you in the ER if the handle is cracked on the screwdriver. Please DO NOT test these with a screwdriver! Simply bend the springs to within 3/4" and then turn the power on WITH the fuel line disconnected to the nozzle line. And it should spark. Or the best way is to have a Certified Oil tech look at it for you, to be safe.
@@seanh5754 or use a tester like the Checkmate from Allanson. It tests both electronic ignitors and iron core transformers, all brands. Judging by the blue and white wires that electronic ignitor is an Allanson product.
It’s perfectly safe to test these electronic igniters using an insulated screwdriver. Any good tech would know that!!!
It’s perfectly safe to test using an insulated screwdriver. Another way is to tilt it back on its hinge when voltage is applied to check for a spark!