I would hands down use that primeweld over that miller or hobarts . Ive had both . Now I went to primeweld and work it commercially. Ive used it 3 years and worked it hard . Its been flawless. Primeweld for the win 🏆
Also, he says the Hobart and the Miller are American made and that's only half true. The MOSFETS used in all three of those machines come from Taiwan and most of the rest of the components are also manufactured overseas. That doesn't make it good or bad, most of our phones and computers are made in the same place after all, but it is misleading to say that the Primeweld is Chinese and is less robust.
Really wanted a Hobart because all my welders are Hobart. Well I bought the prime weld. I don’t use it very often but when I do I love it! So for me it was the smart choice. Great video
It looks like the Miller Spectrum® 625 X-TREME Plasma Cutter w/12 Foot XT40 Torch 907579 would be a better comparison to the Hobart Airfrce 40i. The Miller 625 has a detachable cutting torch and is CNC compatible, but the specs seem closer to the Hobart than the Miller 375. It looks like the $500 more for the Miller is for the torch difference being that it is detachable and that it can be used in computer controlled setups.
First of all...Nice video. Just bought the Hobart 40i and can't wait to use it. This finally completes my man cave. I have Lincoln welders, and knew that it was going to be between the Miller or the Hobart, because Lincoln was just to high in cost and I saw nothing in the specs that justifies their price point. Hobart and Miller have both been around and produce good products. The points you made were spot on and that is why I chose the Hobart. I'm new to plasma cutting and I'm confused about consumables. Seems I read something about different tips (consumables) based on amperage you're cutting at? But nothing on Hobart's web site as far as accessories or kits goes.
i have one of these on a cnc that replaced a hypertherm 45 i seen these reviews and figured hey ill give it a try . i have used it everyday for the past 2 years and im impressed i could buy 3 of these units for the price of 1 hypertherm unit and get the same results im cutting 1/2 plate with it it does seem to go through consumables alot faster but even consumables are cheaper than hyperthem consumables i say your buying a great plasma cutter.
@@TheSpidersoftheworld I will agree with your statement except for the part about buying 3. It's hard enough finding 1. Backordered, backordered. I also own one, great little machine.
@@chuckroast5735 Probably better now that kinks in the vaunted supply chain are less of a problem, but I'll also observe that scarcity might indicate popularity, too. I'll admit to not understanding the HyperTherm mystique, But I do wonder why your CUT60 goes through more consumables--maybe cheaper consumables are lower quality?
i have been watching your video's on the prime weld 60 and just ordered mine today. Amazon price went up to 675,00 . it is on the way can not wait to try it. Thank You
None of the parts inside either the Miller or Hobart are made here. They are made in China. You are paying a huge premium for a US assembled welder full of Chinese parts.
That is a problem, agreed. I think the mfrs are aware of it. For example Primeweld's TIG 225 welder has an always on fan, but their new TIG 325 has an on demand fan. If warranty is not a concern there is likely a hack that a handy owner can install to control the fan thermostatically. Maybe some intrepid sellers will offer a kit, likely from China--we have to give small Chinese creators and sellers their due when they come up with outside the box solutions to problems; tho' sometimes, good ideas are too cheaply converted into goods.
I have heard you mention in another video that all of the cut50 machines are the same Chinese machine. And the advantage of going with primeweld is that they are American company that can give you service in the US. I'm wondering if the "Plasmargon cut60p" is the same machine as the "Primeweld cut60", just in a different shell? Would it be possible for you to review the "Plasmargon cut60p"?
Primeweld seems to be a good customer service company. Though the others may sell a similar or even identical machine, service and followup might be a concern.
That was very informative and what you suggested for light duty work with 40 Amps Machine what you need is a 3 phase connection or you can use a regular house hold's 220 volts connection is fine for that or not ?? You response would be highly appreciated .... SIR GEE
Teneha glendening, I have two primeweld machines and plan on adding a third soon. If you are in question of which machine to buy call primeweld tech support ask them a few questions you'll find your answer very fast. 3 year warranty and tech support who actually answer their phone and if they do not and you leave them a message they normally call back in 30 minutes or less no matter what day of the week it is. If you have a problem they will send you a brand new machine and a call tag for your old one. I still have a unresolved used 4 months so called lead name brand mig setting on the shelf that quit working 5 or 6 years ago. All the fancy name in the world doesn't matter if the unit breaks down and you can't get anyone to help you resolve the issues let alone the manufacturer to return your phone calls. I got fed up one day and bought a primeweld I was so happy I bought a second machine I will never look back. I will buy a third machine soon because I know if I have a problem their tech support will have me back up and running before one of the other so-called big names would even return my phone call.
@@johnsonlong1272 Made (allegedly) in USA does not necessarily mean a a damn thing if the people behind it are arrogant jerks with their heads in the clouds (or maybe in a lower anatomical area).
You say the Hobart and the Miller are American made and that's only half true. The MOSFETS used in all three of those machines come from Taiwan and most of the rest of the components are also manufactured overseas. That doesn't make it good or bad, most of our phones and computers are made in the same place after all, but it is misleading to say that the Primeweld is Chinese and is less robust. There are cheap chinese machines that are, in fact, less resilient, but the Primeweld uses quality components and they are every bit as good as the Hobart for sure. All three machines are fine tools. But, you are going to pay twice as much for half the power and that's because or labor and economies of scale. Primeweld can grab those chips cheaply, without much in the way of shipping, manufacture them with cheaper labor, put them on a ship for pennies per kilo, and put the cost savings into an American based customer service op. None of that means that Primeweld is worse than Hobart. And Miller makes great machines (they actually make Hobart...or rather, Illinois Tool Works owns both subsidiaries) but you are going to pay a premium for the name.
I would hands down use that primeweld over that miller or hobarts . Ive had both . Now I went to primeweld and work it commercially. Ive used it 3 years and worked it hard . Its been flawless. Primeweld for the win 🏆
Also, he says the Hobart and the Miller are American made and that's only half true. The MOSFETS used in all three of those machines come from Taiwan and most of the rest of the components are also manufactured overseas. That doesn't make it good or bad, most of our phones and computers are made in the same place after all, but it is misleading to say that the Primeweld is Chinese and is less robust.
Really wanted a Hobart because all my welders are Hobart. Well I bought the prime weld. I don’t use it very often but when I do I love it! So for me it was the smart choice. Great video
It looks like the Miller Spectrum® 625 X-TREME Plasma Cutter w/12 Foot XT40 Torch 907579 would be a better comparison to the Hobart Airfrce 40i. The Miller 625 has a detachable cutting torch and is CNC compatible, but the specs seem closer to the Hobart than the Miller 375. It looks like the $500 more for the Miller is for the torch difference being that it is detachable and that it can be used in computer controlled setups.
First of all...Nice video. Just bought the Hobart 40i and can't wait to use it. This finally completes my man cave. I have Lincoln welders, and knew that it was going to be between the Miller or the Hobart, because Lincoln was just to high in cost and I saw nothing in the specs that justifies their price point. Hobart and Miller have both been around and produce good products. The points you made were spot on and that is why I chose the Hobart.
I'm new to plasma cutting and I'm confused about consumables. Seems I read something about different tips (consumables) based on amperage you're cutting at? But nothing on Hobart's web site as far as accessories or kits goes.
I'm buying primeweld cut60
i have one of these on a cnc that replaced a hypertherm 45 i seen these reviews and figured hey ill give it a try . i have used it everyday for the past 2 years and im impressed i could buy 3 of these units for the price of 1 hypertherm unit and get the same results im cutting 1/2 plate with it it does seem to go through consumables alot faster but even consumables are cheaper than hyperthem consumables i say your buying a great plasma cutter.
@@TheSpidersoftheworld great review comment. Thank you.
@@TheSpidersoftheworld I will agree with your statement except for the part about buying 3. It's hard enough finding 1. Backordered, backordered. I also own one, great little machine.
@@chuckroast5735 Probably better now that kinks in the vaunted supply chain are less of a problem, but I'll also observe that scarcity might indicate popularity, too. I'll admit to not understanding the HyperTherm mystique, But I do wonder why your CUT60 goes through more consumables--maybe cheaper consumables are lower quality?
i have been watching your video's on the prime weld 60 and just ordered mine today. Amazon price went up to 675,00 . it is on the way can not wait to try it. Thank You
Going direct to Primeweld might yield a better deal, just FYI.
How much does each one weigh? Because you might want to do it on site and need walk around with it.
None of the parts inside either the Miller or Hobart are made here. They are made in China. You are paying a huge premium for a US assembled welder full of Chinese parts.
Is there any way to make a always fan on machine to a fan that only comes on for a specific temp? Or while running the welder or cutter?
That is a problem, agreed. I think the mfrs are aware of it. For example Primeweld's TIG 225 welder has an always on fan, but their new TIG 325 has an on demand fan. If warranty is not a concern there is likely a hack that a handy owner can install to control the fan thermostatically. Maybe some intrepid sellers will offer a kit, likely from China--we have to give small Chinese creators and sellers their due when they come up with outside the box solutions to problems; tho' sometimes, good ideas are too cheaply converted into goods.
I have heard you mention in another video that all of the cut50 machines are the same Chinese machine. And the advantage of going with primeweld is that they are American company that can give you service in the US. I'm wondering if the "Plasmargon cut60p" is the same machine as the "Primeweld cut60", just in a different shell?
Would it be possible for you to review the "Plasmargon cut60p"?
Primeweld seems to be a good customer service company. Though the others may sell a similar or even identical machine, service and followup might be a concern.
You didn't say how big they are. Fiscal size
Very informative video.
Thanks for the in depth reviews
2:18 not OVER double, but double is absolutely mind boggling for a brother sister company
Great comparison and real informative! 🇺🇸
Everything is made in China if not the whole unit then a lot of parts
That was very informative and what you suggested for light duty work with 40 Amps Machine what you need is a 3 phase connection or you can use a regular house hold's 220 volts connection is fine for that or not ?? You response would be highly appreciated .... SIR GEE
None of the 3 mentioned require 3 phase.
Have you tried the razor weld 45? Any info would be greatly appreciated. I'm trying to decide between prime weld 60 or the razor weld 45 thanks.
Teneha glendening, I have two primeweld machines and plan on adding a third soon. If you are in question of which machine to buy call primeweld tech support ask them a few questions you'll find your answer very fast. 3 year warranty and tech support who actually answer their phone and if they do not and you leave them a message they normally call back in 30 minutes or less no matter what day of the week it is. If you have a problem they will send you a brand new machine and a call tag for your old one. I still have a unresolved used 4 months so called lead name brand mig setting on the shelf that quit working 5 or 6 years ago. All the fancy name in the world doesn't matter if the unit breaks down and you can't get anyone to help you resolve the issues let alone the manufacturer to return your phone calls. I got fed up one day and bought a primeweld I was so happy I bought a second machine I will never look back. I will buy a third machine soon because I know if I have a problem their tech support will have me back up and running before one of the other so-called big names would even return my phone call.
Primeweld is the way to go they work great and have great customer service
@@johnsonlong1272 Made (allegedly) in USA does not necessarily mean a a damn thing if the people behind it are arrogant jerks with their heads in the clouds (or maybe in a lower anatomical area).
40i price jumped to $2400, is it still worth buying at that price?
Search on Google. I've seen it at about $1500 online.
The 375 has a setting to cut expanded metal the Hobart does not
Have you tried yes welder plasma cutter ?
Great video. Have you ever used a reboot 50amp plasma cutter?
You say the Hobart and the Miller are American made and that's only half true. The MOSFETS used in all three of those machines come from Taiwan and most of the rest of the components are also manufactured overseas. That doesn't make it good or bad, most of our phones and computers are made in the same place after all, but it is misleading to say that the Primeweld is Chinese and is less robust.
There are cheap chinese machines that are, in fact, less resilient, but the Primeweld uses quality components and they are every bit as good as the Hobart for sure. All three machines are fine tools. But, you are going to pay twice as much for half the power and that's because or labor and economies of scale. Primeweld can grab those chips cheaply, without much in the way of shipping, manufacture them with cheaper labor, put them on a ship for pennies per kilo, and put the cost savings into an American based customer service op.
None of that means that Primeweld is worse than Hobart. And Miller makes great machines (they actually make Hobart...or rather, Illinois Tool Works owns both subsidiaries) but you are going to pay a premium for the name.