Watch our original NVIDIA RTX 3090 Founders Edition review: ua-cam.com/video/Xgs-VbqsuKo/v-deo.html (this will help you make more of a decision on whether the 3090 is worth it, in general) Our mouse mats will arrive back at our warehouse soon! Anyone back-ordering a mat is guaranteed to receive one in our next run (which is in transit to us now)! We sold through these mats in under 48 hours when we first launched them, and similarly fast in the first restock. Here's the third round: store.gamersnexus.net/products/gn-wireframe-mouse-mat FYI - filmed this review about 2 weeks ago, so you've seen these cards go through a lot since then. They were tested prior to all of the mods, but anyone into extreme overclocking should also look at that content!
@Gamers Nexus Are you doing a 3080 Strix review in the near future? The reason I ask is because I'm considering pre-ordering a 3080 Strix OC version before the card comes out instead of waiting for release and pay a "low supply/high demand" premium on top of an already very expensive card. Most reviews I could find all say it's a great card but I still would like a more in depth GN review before I just toss 859 Euros at a random vendor :-) If your review shows it's not worth the Strix premium I'll order a less expensive TUF instead
Hi Steve, I was wondering for the retention brace that the EVGA includes what cases supports their retention brace? I couldn’t find any information about this online. Thanks!
I know it's a joke, I want to add info for anyone who cares. Neutrinos are observed using neutrinos observatories which usually are inside abandoned mines (they block outside radiation and particles).
I've been following your channel almost since you started. It always amazes me how more and more deep you are when doing those reviews each passing year. My guess is that in a few years you will eventually go benchmark the families of the miners who got the metal for the heat sink. Good job and I am looking forward to it! =)
It’s expensive but I remember paying comparable money for two 1080 FE cards and a nVidia SLI bridge for it to do 4K 60 Ultra years ago. This one card can actually hold its own with one card for the same price years later. That said I’m very curious about the RX 6900XT since it is supposed to be about 95% of the performance for 2/3 of the price.
I honestly feel the title and thumbnail are clickbait but they're not, it's just how things are now. People need to understand it's not Steve doing this to them. Don't shoot the messenger.
Are people blaming him? Well, I’m not surprised. You have all these lunatics who think just because they can post a comment that they have some kind of special power. No, they’re pathetic, and we know they live in their parents basements and have a monitor dedicated to old lady porn.
@Ali Samin I find it hilarious you all are butt hurt about a few cards that went to reviewers. lol.. Make a fucking channel and get subs if you want one. A hand full of cards isn't going to stop the shortage. Just stop crying and wait for them to come back in stock like an adult.
I just bought this card. Not because it was my first pick, but because it was literally the only one I could find in stock, thanks to EVGA's queue system. I didn't feel like battling another few months with all my other new parts sitting here unused, so I pulled the trigger. Thanks EVGA!
How the fuck did you get one? Im in the UK, I even got the Auto Notify clicked on both the XC3 and FTW3 Ultra. I can't get either for love nor money. Does the auto notify not work properly in the EU/UK? Or it's only working for USA customers only.....Not even sure if I am in the que and I have had an EVGA account for more than 4 years.
@@adamdavidkenyon6664 Go to EVGA's website and click the notify when available option on the card you want and enter your email. Make sure the email you use is the same one that you used to register your EVGA account. I selected every 3080 and 3090 they had for notification and then after like 4 weeks I got the email. I don't think the wait time for each card is the same, the more popular 3080 cards are likely to have a longer line of people ahead of you. If you aren't sure if you are in the queue just try to sign up with your email again for the notification and it will kick back a message that you were already in line if you already had signed up. However, you might be right that it's only for USA and Canada customers.
Walked into my local Micro Center in Dallas and found one on the shelf last Saturday. I loved my EVGA FTW3 2080TI and I kept stubbornly turning down ASUS and other 3090's when they popped up. So glad to have found an EVGA FTW3 3090 at MSRP. Such a beast of a card. EVGA's quality is amazing.
I find it mildly appalling that, in today's day, this GPU can cost more than double the cost of an entire, respectable gaming system, built from scratch.
You could be the last person to comment and the 3090s would still be sold out. The Unobtainium needed to make them is still is deep space on its way back from Pandora.
I got my FTW3U (3080) on Saturday finally, and while I don't have buyer's remorse, had I known how much of a power hog it was and how much louder and inefficient it was *on air*, and how it seems entirely aimed at water cooling only, AND if there had been any actual supply (so many hypotheticals), I would have 100% just purchased a TUF. Having said that, I've undervolted mine and dropped 85w off the top end, lowered the thermals by 8C as well as reduced the fan noise, while maintaining stock speeds. Only had it almost a week now, so I might run into some instability issue with something at some point, but after eight hours of stress testing and about sixteen hours in various games, nothing yet. The 30 series seem like the first Nvidia cards where undervolting makes more sense than overclocking. The gains on actual overclocking are abysmal for normal users.
After watching this I began to doubt my 3090 purchase but I gotta say, when you have a 49” 1440p monitor, every little bit does help. Plus, it does feel nice to own the best card on the market. For the moment at least
At least evga has their queue system so you don't have to depend on luck. I signed up for notifications on release day and my 3090 ftw3 ultra should be here tomorrow.
I signed up 0n 9/24 through EVGA to be notified. I was notified and bought the card a few days ago. 1,951$ which includes tax and standard shipping. Will have it Monday when UPS drops it off😎
Does anyone else remember when he internet shit itself freaking out about the RX 480 overdrawing PCI-E slots? I wonder if we'll hear any whining about the 3090 doing the exact same thing
I'm so glad you keep iterating "it doesn't really matter what card you get" I have this argument so many times with so many people who get the 'best of the best' for an extra $300-$500 without them realising you would have a MUCH bigger jump just getting the next family up (2070 to 2080 etc)
My guess is the next generation will be a lot more focused on efficiency, I feel that there's no way any reasonable cooler would be able to handle a 500-600w graphics card so they probably will have to release something for the next architecture that's a lot more efficient than Ampere and (probably) RDNA 2. It is pretty crazy though, 400w graphics cards are pretty insane already.
@@float32 Yeah, even with the 200~ watt cards I've been using my room gets really hot if I dont have my window open (live in cali). 300+ seems insane to me already.
@@awesup1927 they definitely should think about turning it around and concentrate on efficiency more, but as for now, they probably want to impress everyone with performance 😀. I don't think it will be a big deal to cool down even a 500-600w graphics card with water cooling and 240 radiator!
Great review and I'm sure you had most if not all of this done before today but EVGA did release a new bios that pushes the card to 500w. I would love to see a second video touching on if the extra 50w really made any difference. Or maybe just touch on it on your weekly news video but either way I'd love to hear your input.
Just picked this up for $1140 to replace my Zotac 3060 Ti OC card... only picked up this 3090 cause of the price, and had to pick up a new psu (Corsair RM1000x) for $119 prime sale, since I was running an old corsair GS700 psu... hope the extra fps is worth it
Can you guys do a video on the EVGA 500W XOC Bios not working on FTW3 3090s. It is a huge issue over on the EVGA forums right now because EVGA's own bios is not getting to 500W on their own FTW3 cards despite the same bios working perfectly on the cards of other brands. It appears similar to what is said in the video, EVGA cheaped out on components on their $1800 card which gimped its performance.
Great and thorough review. I just snagged one of these well below MSRP for a new mini ITX build (in an NR200P case, hope it fits...) "As far as we know, the lab did not in fact exceed the temperature of the sun during testing." Hilarious.
@@hellothere4342 who cares if it’s ‘worth it’. If you can afford something better than a 3080 here it is. And guess what, you gotta pay for that. Is it double the benefit? No. And nobody is claiming it is. Is it better in any way at all? Yes. And there is your answer.
A great review as I find myself in the exact situation comparing the 3090 FE and the 3090 ftw3 ultra gaming. I only have one critique, in the gaming section you did not include any figures for your 3090 FE overclocked, just stock. I wish you had included overclocked FE scores so I could easily see in this video see how they compare in overclocking.
The evga 3090 does an ok job at actually cooling the backside vram modules. And ok cooling for the backside vram on 3090s is basically top tier for most models. The founders edition is literally trash at cooling the vram on the back. EVGA card actually leverages a heatpipe to help move heat away and the cutouts in the board allow it to act like a heatsink fin. Also I would much rather deal with EVGA than nvidia if I had to do any type of warranty, included in that is knowing I can change pads and thermal paste in a year or two and still have said warranty. Lastly, I was able to pay 60 dollars to extend the warranty to 10 years. So if you got it at msrp I would definitely say its a solid purchase.
The average gaming PC consumer frankly doesn’t care about power draw. I would venture to say most enuthusiasts don’t care about power draw. Power draw has yet to be a factor in the mind of consumers - so why would an award be weighted on it? I agree it should be a metric, but gaming PCs are still all about performance. That metric would be best for laptops, other mobile devices... I would love to see that sort of content. But still - you don’t see power draw show up on marketing slides (unless maybe it’s all there is to offer)
You wanna know how I ended up with a 3090? Pandy provided me with a whole lot of free time at home, in front of my 4700k/GTX 1080, but then pandy taketh away when I decided to get one of those 3070s. - after Sniper bots, discord notifications, nothing worked, I decided to camp out Microcenter. - MC had a missed shipment coming that afternoon I went to line up, 20th in line, there turned out to be about seventeen 3070/3080s - I was the “first” in line “without a ticket to buy” and they only had MSI and EVGA 3090s, I got the last evga for 1800, kid behind me had to settle for like a $2,300 MSI 3090. I did not choose this life. But I do like the thermal sensors, otherwise, I thought it was one of the quieter and cooler 3090s, sucks it’s not. But my insane airflow setup has the fans under 70 and temps average 65° under maximum load.
Hear, hear! High, cheap, airflow has kept my 3090 around that temp too! Runs games splendidly and a game I enjoy playing, Squad, can run with high quality settings that consume high memory without concern!
I just got this card for 700$CAD, the performance is mostly excellent, but my goodness its hot! Heats up my room after 1-2 hours by multiple degrees, and even at idle is 50 degrees Celsius!
I have had my FTW3 Ultra 3090 in my system for 2 days now and it's mind-blowing fast. I've never had this type of performance ever. I play on a 1440p 165Hz Gigabyte monitor and with ultra Settings and Raytracing on Modern Warfare I get an average of 158FPS with G-Sync enabled. I know it was rediculous expensive. Hopefully it will last me at least 3 years or more like Pascal cards did when they went to market. BTW I paid $1998.74 after taxes and shipping costs.
@@johnwest6977 still using it to this day. Added a nice aluminum heatsink to the backplate and good thermal pads and memory junction temps are below 90 C
@@gionieves2646 I hope so. I’m running a corsair HX750i. 10700k with Ventus OC 3080(when it gets here). Thought about upgrading to an 850, but if you’re running a 3090 I should be good right
EVGA just release a 500W bios for this card, hard to imagine that 4-5 years ago. Arctic have a 360w gpu heatsink used to cool titans just a few years ago.
@@LilioCamere forums.evga.com/EVGA-GeForce-RTX-3090-FTW3-XOC-BIOS-BETA-m3124192.aspx This is the 500W bios, although i heard that 3080 get a similar 500w bios like this
Hi love the content, thank you for all of your hard work! You've helped me so much with buying my components for my new rig. I noticed on the SOTTR benchmark that there are two scores for the RTX 3080 FE stock that appear to be the exact same. Not sure if this was an accident but I thought you might like to know.
@@Fyrwulf Go be a Canadian where you've got almost US prices but free everything like in Europe, except for the most important: Almost free Universities in Europe! 😭😭😭😭😭 (My debt was 40k after I finished mine in Toronto).
@@Fyrwulf Even if you factor in taxes, the cards should be much lower than what they're currently retailing for. Most retailers are price gouging, not the state.
@@MasterOfInfinity No sense trying to reason with people who think a 10.000 dollar doctors visit is reasonable as long as the evil government is not involved ;)
@@foobarbazbaa5598 as someone in a country with "free healthcare", I much rather have the tax money myself and be able to save for a proper doctor. Good luck complaining about your "free" doctor when he's paid regardless of the service provided.
was on EVGAs list for a 3080 and a 3090 ftw3 ultra.my number came up for the 3090 seeing as the 3080 was selling (scalpers) for more than the 3090 MSRP bought it have zero regrets its a awesome card and stomps everygame at 1440 ultraed out.
Heh, where I live 1800 USD is Palit RTX 3080 😢 And that is in retail shop. I found TUF cheaper at scalper, but still 1500 USD. EDIT: I did not buy any of them, I need card, but I am not idiot. Gonna wait until stock populates and prices come closer to MSRP.
I ordered this card from the EVGA notification queue. I'd much rather have the FE, but my best buy 3090 order got cancelled. It's the only thing I could somewhat easily get my hands on from a legit store. Better paying ~1800$ for a 3090 than ~1500$ for a scalper's 3080, at least that's what I tell myself. I used some random associate code that I found and saved 5%. That's a good thing to keep in mind for the EVGA.com store.
I am waiting for my RMA on my EVGA FTW 3090. I had issues on a 1200i 10900k build getting over 450 watt power draw. (Even with 500w bios) Hopefully the new card I get today will shine!
Got the 3090 FTW3 Ultra on launch. Disappointed to see the 3090 FE got within 1% frames yet I paid more than $300 more. Really makes me think I might look at the FE for the 4000 series.
I just got this card today. It’s a noticeable improvement over my 2080 Ti with the Hybrid cooler. I’ve not tried to OC or change bios. Under load in a well ventilated Phanteks case, temperatures stay between 70 and 80. It is definitely expensive... But I was on EVGA’s mailing list and got an email yesterday saying they had one for me. It was hard to resist... Total with tax and overnight shipping came out to almost 2K... But that’s really the only 3000 card I was able to buy (without buying from a scalper).
This is the first time your vids were in my notifications for some reason? There's been some other weird stuff with YT lately tho, maybe they are changing some crap on the backend lol
I have this card and it is hardly power limited. Whatever the overclocks settings I set in MSI AB, I get max 1995MHz and max 0,987V in TimeSpy. I had to flash it with a 2x8pins bios from Gigabyte (Aorus extreme) in order to get sustained overclocks and much more less power limit. I should have bought the Asus Rog Strix....
I love GN and friends (Jay, Paul, BZ, etc) but I really want any other content besides the 3000 series. Hardly anyone has the cards at all so seeing X review of Y brand version Z is (almost) useless. Seriously I would rather watch videos on countless peripherals or other hardware that I actually can buy. Again, no hate on reviewers at all, NONE, y'all just doing your jobs. All 100% love from me.
I'd love to see a roundup based on power modding with buildzoid...like if you're willing to shunt what is the rankings for easiest (fewest) + has the stoutest VRM.
Same comments on every single 3000 series card review video... "Every tech reviewer has all the 3000 series gpu's while it's out of stock😭😭" shits gettin old.
I just thought of this while watching one of Jay’s videos - you guys never really build PC’s. You guys are my go-to for the best products and value assessments, so it seems natural for you guys to design and build what you consider a “best” PC (in your opinion). What do you prioritize? Which brands do you trust? Where is money often unnecessarily wasted in a build? Is it lit the fuck up with LEDs? Just a thought. I’d love to see a Gamers Nexus recommended line of PC’s in the different form factors.
So off topic but I got my EVGA FTW3 3080 and out of the box stock with a custom fan curve I was hitting 80 degrees C non stop with Battlefield V also in benchmarks, so took a look at the taredown video (thank you for that video) and decided to take the journey. The compound was very very thin (I wish I took a pic) and very hard. I applied some thermal grizzly and I can say I dropped legit 10 degrees or more haven't seen 80 degrees not even OC.... Hope this helps someone
They shoulda named these FTW THE GRILL EDITION with the heatoutput capable of cooking food. I would so love to see you build a custom heatsink that outputs directly to a radiator that is just a big solid copper tray, and cook hamburgers off it.
FYI Just ordered my card from the wait list on EVGA. I signed up for notification about 2 days before they told everyone they would start a list... I signed up for every card notification and received an email for the 3090 card being reviewed here. So stay positive... they are coming....
my personal experience: 1. 90 fe (great oc, very very cool even on 114% power. 2. 3080 ftw ultra. (good oc, cool, quiet) good card. 3. 3080 xc ultra (decent card, quiet, ok oc, semi warm) 4. 3080 fe (kinda noisy, kinda warm. no oc room but on early drivers) 5. 3090 msi ventus oc. (early drivers, but semi noisy, artifacting at stock-dud of a card) sticking with the 90 fe...at 114% +100 core oc im at around 63c. my 80 ftw ultra at +100 core at 118% power i was about 72c. i custom modded my case side glass and replaced with filter screen. everything supercool now. I highly recommend getting a mesh case or modding. I tried every config of intake and exhale and i was fine but a mesh side is easy cool.
I'd like to see the EVGA 3090 XC3 reviewed, for a few reasons. First, the FE won't ever be available in most of the world, and the FTW3 is very expensive, so reviewing near-MSRP AIB boards is relevant to more people. Second, the XC3 is the smallest 3090 on the market by a big margin, does that compromise its cooling? Third, the XC3 Black variant has no backplate, which means half the VRAM has absolutely no cooling. How does the 3090 respond on cards that don't cool the rear VRAM?
after seeing this im much more relieved I was able to get an FE card prior to my waitlist on evga. I do 3d work and not so much high end overclocking and this definitely doesnt look worth the price jump for my use case. Although I will love to see world records moving forward :D
I just got this exact card today and love it I was able to get the core to stay between 2040-2055mhz with spikes up to 2160mhz. 14100 port royal score.
Hi Steve, any chance of adding to your tests power consumption at fixed fps (60, 120, 144, etc) comparing to other GPUs to see how efficient or not they are?
Sad thing is everyone other 3090 available in Canada when I got mine was the same price as that gagatuan monstrosity. So I got one😆 But the price gouging was like 150$ on that model all MSRP & conversion taken into account so not too too bad I guess...
The EVGA Forum is starting to populate with 3080 and 3090 FTW3 Ultra Cards letting out the smoke. Even users that have already RMAed, received their replacement, which also let the smoke out, and back in line for RMA. Its great that EVGA has good support but RMA Limbo sucks and shipping these graphics cards multiple times starts to add up.
As someone who has always bought parts based on a price/performance ratio heavily emphasizing optimizing for the knee of the curve, this 3090 release amazes me. Although from a content producer perspective I can understand the coverage, it's what your user base likely wants, I just don't 'get' how over sensationalized this stuff is, the 3090 release was so over hyped fed by foaming at the mouth fanbois it damages my opinion of the PC maker scene as a whole, although your coverage of it has been great. We're really at the point where you're discussing percentage points that are beyond human perception after how many dozens if not hundreds of hours benching this stuff? My desire to be cost conscious while performance minded is slightly offended. But you guys cover that end of things fairly well too, I would love to see your charts contain some kind of value metric based on all data points you've collected normalized across price/performance, a really hard trick to pull off but it would in my opinion represent the single most important metric you could produce with the data collected even if it would be a bear to come up with the proper data to feed into and normalize.
Remember Nvidia makes hardware/software but they are really a Marketing Company. Think about it from that angle. Nvidia are masters of marketing. They release the hottest loudest cards ever, with not actually a huge improvement "in fact one of the worst in their history" but yet their marketing has done such a great job to get people to "reflex buy" as soon as a card is available. And condition the people to be willing to pay 2x / 3x /4x the msrp of the card.
Well, i think to get the best out of this card withing reasonable limits you'd have to put it under water. Igor extracted up to 2.2Ghz from a 3080 with an Alphacool Block, so i assume with the higher power limit you have higher limits if you can cool it. To me personally a card with a higher powerlimit is always preferable as i do watercool it. I'd totally love this card with the new 500W BIOS but i can't see myself spending that much money for it, so i'd hope for a 400W 3080 Card that i can really push.
Watch our original NVIDIA RTX 3090 Founders Edition review: ua-cam.com/video/Xgs-VbqsuKo/v-deo.html (this will help you make more of a decision on whether the 3090 is worth it, in general)
Our mouse mats will arrive back at our warehouse soon! Anyone back-ordering a mat is guaranteed to receive one in our next run (which is in transit to us now)! We sold through these mats in under 48 hours when we first launched them, and similarly fast in the first restock. Here's the third round: store.gamersnexus.net/products/gn-wireframe-mouse-mat
FYI - filmed this review about 2 weeks ago, so you've seen these cards go through a lot since then. They were tested prior to all of the mods, but anyone into extreme overclocking should also look at that content!
@Gamers Nexus Are you doing a 3080 Strix review in the near future? The reason I ask is because I'm considering pre-ordering a 3080 Strix OC version before the card comes out instead of waiting for release and pay a "low supply/high demand" premium on top of an already very expensive card. Most reviews I could find all say it's a great card but I still would like a more in depth GN review before I just toss 859 Euros at a random vendor :-) If your review shows it's not worth the Strix premium I'll order a less expensive TUF instead
Evga released a higher (550w I think) beta bios for the card.
Its the only card that can actually do 4k at reasonable framerates (in some games)
Yea Jeffy, I'd appreciate a Prime membership too, if you're reading this (which off course your are).
Kthxbye.
Hi Steve, I was wondering for the retention brace that the EVGA includes what cases supports their retention brace? I couldn’t find any information about this online. Thanks!
"...to our knowledge, our lab did not in fact exceed the temperature of the sun during testing."
Using Ampere with, probably, a 10900k ... so it's better that GN got that out of the way.
The only time they get that hot is when Joe is there
Oh, but is there a chance of getting robot arms fuzed to my spine with this product? The warranty doesn't specify.
Sorry, I must've left my Razer Toaster running
well yeah, it's not an NVidia card
9:21 - Steve captures evidence of a neutrino for the first time ever... laughs it off as a software glitch.
Might have been an Axion (\s)
lol
To their knowledge the lab did not exceed the temperature of the sun.
I know it's a joke, I want to add info for anyone who cares. Neutrinos are observed using neutrinos observatories which usually are inside abandoned mines (they block outside radiation and particles).
neutrinos don't do anything... that's why they're so hard to detect (even though we have) I assume you're thinking of a different thing
All of the 3080 silicon went into making spatulas for Jensen
Silicon vs silicone lol
@@TheShooter466 and... he meant silicon
Also unsed thermal greeseleys Liquid metal to remove hairs with silicon spatula.
@@TheShooter466 thats the joke, its called a play on words
I instantly was drawn to his collection of spatulas in that video XD
I've been following your channel almost since you started. It always amazes me how more and more deep you are when doing those reviews each passing year. My guess is that in a few years you will eventually go benchmark the families of the miners who got the metal for the heat sink.
Good job and I am looking forward to it! =)
It’s expensive but I remember paying comparable money for two 1080 FE cards and a nVidia SLI bridge for it to do 4K 60 Ultra years ago. This one card can actually hold its own with one card for the same price years later. That said I’m very curious about the RX 6900XT since it is supposed to be about 95% of the performance for 2/3 of the price.
So many salty comments, he's just doing his job, reviewing and comparing the cards and a damn good job he does. Not his fault they are unobtainium.
Agreed. This falls on Nvidia and Samsung. The poor Samsung yields are definitely taking a toll.
I honestly feel the title and thumbnail are clickbait but they're not, it's just how things are now. People need to understand it's not Steve doing this to them. Don't shoot the messenger.
Are people blaming him? Well, I’m not surprised. You have all these lunatics who think just because they can post a comment that they have some kind of special power. No, they’re pathetic, and we know they live in their parents basements and have a monitor dedicated to old lady porn.
@@ajr1775 what if it's actually gddr6x yeilds
@@Bryan11210 micron has no yield rates, they put every chip on a card and just wait and see whats coming back...
One of the channels I trust for proper reviews!
Isn’t that the truth 100% bang on
I'm really glad you got 100% of all the stock available.
In an ideal world the reviewers would get the thing before it went on general sale.
Even the most shitty UA-camr with > 3k subscribers has at least one 3080/3090.
I'll quit all my subs...it sucks
I got my 3090 it's amazingly fast.
@Ali Samin I find it hilarious you all are butt hurt about a few cards that went to reviewers. lol.. Make a fucking channel and get subs if you want one. A hand full of cards isn't going to stop the shortage. Just stop crying and wait for them to come back in stock like an adult.
You're not trying hard enough. Why stop at 100% with your idiocy? Why not go to 110%?
"We're gonna skip 1440p becase we were CPU bound."
We made it folks!!! FINALLY!!!
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I just bought this card. Not because it was my first pick, but because it was literally the only one I could find in stock, thanks to EVGA's queue system. I didn't feel like battling another few months with all my other new parts sitting here unused, so I pulled the trigger. Thanks EVGA!
Looks like the same thing happened to me! Will say it’s going to be a good holiday season, cheers!
How the fuck did you get one? Im in the UK, I even got the Auto Notify clicked on both the XC3 and FTW3 Ultra. I can't get either for love nor money. Does the auto notify not work properly in the EU/UK? Or it's only working for USA customers only.....Not even sure if I am in the que and I have had an EVGA account for more than 4 years.
@@adamdavidkenyon6664 Go to EVGA's website and click the notify when available option on the card you want and enter your email. Make sure the email you use is the same one that you used to register your EVGA account. I selected every 3080 and 3090 they had for notification and then after like 4 weeks I got the email. I don't think the wait time for each card is the same, the more popular 3080 cards are likely to have a longer line of people ahead of you. If you aren't sure if you are in the queue just try to sign up with your email again for the notification and it will kick back a message that you were already in line if you already had signed up. However, you might be right that it's only for USA and Canada customers.
The same thing just happened to me!
Just happened to me too. Got the same card today
9:24 Steve accidentally builds a fusion reactor with graphics cards
Ahh yess its been too long since i had out of the box noise normalized thermals
Now we need power normalised thermals!!!
You mentioned BLENDER! Finally a hardware reviewer that understands it's not just about gaming :-)
Walked into my local Micro Center in Dallas and found one on the shelf last Saturday. I loved my EVGA FTW3 2080TI and I kept stubbornly turning down ASUS and other 3090's when they popped up. So glad to have found an EVGA FTW3 3090 at MSRP. Such a beast of a card. EVGA's quality is amazing.
Steve's lock ups are actually funny, it's like he knows exactly what to say, but with a regret.
It's almost 5am. I rate your upload schedule. Keeps me on my toes
I find it mildly appalling that, in today's day, this GPU can cost more than double the cost of an entire, respectable gaming system, built from scratch.
It'll also crossover into next gen amd they are working on ps 6 already
"Our lab did not, in fact, exceed the temperature of the sun during testing"
Good to know, good to know
Last time I was this early, all the 3090s were already sold out.
You could be the last person to comment and the 3090s would still be sold out. The Unobtainium needed to make them is still is deep space on its way back from Pandora.
At least GN aren't sellouts
20:09 - just saved you 20 minutes of life
I got my FTW3U (3080) on Saturday finally, and while I don't have buyer's remorse, had I known how much of a power hog it was and how much louder and inefficient it was *on air*, and how it seems entirely aimed at water cooling only, AND if there had been any actual supply (so many hypotheticals), I would have 100% just purchased a TUF. Having said that, I've undervolted mine and dropped 85w off the top end, lowered the thermals by 8C as well as reduced the fan noise, while maintaining stock speeds. Only had it almost a week now, so I might run into some instability issue with something at some point, but after eight hours of stress testing and about sixteen hours in various games, nothing yet. The 30 series seem like the first Nvidia cards where undervolting makes more sense than overclocking. The gains on actual overclocking are abysmal for normal users.
After watching this I began to doubt my 3090 purchase but I gotta say, when you have a 49” 1440p monitor, every little bit does help. Plus, it does feel nice to own the best card on the market. For the moment at least
I agree man. My 3090 is my bb
If a GPU performs very well, but nobody can buy it, does it even exist? A question for the philosophers.
At least evga has their queue system so you don't have to depend on luck. I signed up for notifications on release day and my 3090 ftw3 ultra should be here tomorrow.
@@Stephen-tq1jh you're a graphics card
@@Lead_Foot how many were in the queue ahead of you
Unless you're a kid. anyone can afford it.
A question for the intellectuals
I signed up 0n 9/24 through EVGA to be notified. I was notified and bought the card a few days ago. 1,951$ which includes tax and standard shipping. Will have it Monday when UPS drops it off😎
one good thing about 3090 is it can warm the room in winter time
Does anyone else remember when he internet shit itself freaking out about the RX 480 overdrawing PCI-E slots? I wonder if we'll hear any whining about the 3090 doing the exact same thing
Because it's Nvidia so no one cares
I'm so glad you keep iterating "it doesn't really matter what card you get" I have this argument so many times with so many people who get the 'best of the best' for an extra $300-$500 without them realising you would have a MUCH bigger jump just getting the next family up (2070 to 2080 etc)
If you are getting a 3090 in any form, you really dont have the mental capacity to unterstand what Price/preformance is.
@@enjoshi-godrez8775 Or you're paranoid about VRAM when you can just go with a 6900 XT instead.
@@daedalus6433 it been all but confirmed by Nvidia that they will release a 20gb 3080 after big navi. It's far from the first time they've done that.
@@enjoshi-godrez8775 Canceled now, so nope.
@@daedalus6433 really? I didn't see that.
We don't expect people to be buying 3090's. - Oh how wrong you were Sir oh how wrong you were
Glad to see this one being reviewed considering I have it coming in the mail tomorrow.
300% higher cost for 10% more preformance. DUUHHH SEEMS GOOD TO ME...
Wow, these top tier graphics cards are really getting more and more hungry for power) Soon they gonna need an additional PSU 😦
My guess is the next generation will be a lot more focused on efficiency, I feel that there's no way any reasonable cooler would be able to handle a 500-600w graphics card so they probably will have to release something for the next architecture that's a lot more efficient than Ampere and (probably) RDNA 2. It is pretty crazy though, 400w graphics cards are pretty insane already.
@@awesup1927 I have a 500W personal space heater.
@@float32 Yeah, even with the 200~ watt cards I've been using my room gets really hot if I dont have my window open (live in cali). 300+ seems insane to me already.
@@awesup1927 they definitely should think about turning it around and concentrate on efficiency more, but as for now, they probably want to impress everyone with performance 😀.
I don't think it will be a big deal to cool down even a 500-600w graphics card with water cooling and 240 radiator!
They'll come with a dedicated power cord
Great review and I'm sure you had most if not all of this done before today but EVGA did release a new bios that pushes the card to 500w. I would love to see a second video touching on if the extra 50w really made any difference. Or maybe just touch on it on your weekly news video but either way I'd love to hear your input.
Quality work from GN and Tech-Jesus like always! ;-) Really appreciate the work you guys are doing!
I bought a 3090FE and just waiting for my Alphacool waterblock and yes I want the best and will mostly just game. Est that Steve ! 👌
Just picked this up for $1140 to replace my Zotac 3060 Ti OC card... only picked up this 3090 cause of the price, and had to pick up a new psu (Corsair RM1000x) for $119 prime sale, since I was running an old corsair GS700 psu... hope the extra fps is worth it
Can you guys do a video on the EVGA 500W XOC Bios not working on FTW3 3090s. It is a huge issue over on the EVGA forums right now because EVGA's own bios is not getting to 500W on their own FTW3 cards despite the same bios working perfectly on the cards of other brands. It appears similar to what is said in the video, EVGA cheaped out on components on their $1800 card which gimped its performance.
I always enjoy your reviews thanks for another good one brother.
Looking forward to this card. Currently waiting on EVGA step up to snag this card.
BTW congrats on 1 mil subs u deserved it, keep it up!
Great and thorough review. I just snagged one of these well below MSRP for a new mini ITX build (in an NR200P case, hope it fits...) "As far as we know, the lab did not in fact exceed the temperature of the sun during testing." Hilarious.
Best thing about EVGA are their warranty. Especially when you're custom watercooling,they don't mind that you've taken the cooler off.
Thats never going to be worth $1800. Don't try a twist how outrageously overpriced this is.
@@enjoshi-godrez8775 agree. Absolutely bloody not worth it especially the improvement over 3080 is minimal at best.
@Brandon S True, I read a little too into it.
@@hellothere4342 who cares if it’s ‘worth it’. If you can afford something better than a 3080 here it is. And guess what, you gotta pay for that. Is it double the benefit? No. And nobody is claiming it is. Is it better in any way at all? Yes. And there is your answer.
@@cjlhessing I hope what you just said was a parody of all the brain dead nividia fanboys trying to defend this piece of crap. Right? 😂
A great review as I find myself in the exact situation comparing the 3090 FE and the 3090 ftw3 ultra gaming. I only have one critique, in the gaming section you did not include any figures for your 3090 FE overclocked, just stock. I wish you had included overclocked FE scores so I could easily see in this video see how they compare in overclocking.
my doubt also... i cant figure out why he didnt do FE oc
The evga 3090 does an ok job at actually cooling the backside vram modules. And ok cooling for the backside vram on 3090s is basically top tier for most models. The founders edition is literally trash at cooling the vram on the back. EVGA card actually leverages a heatpipe to help move heat away and the cutouts in the board allow it to act like a heatsink fin. Also I would much rather deal with EVGA than nvidia if I had to do any type of warranty, included in that is knowing I can change pads and thermal paste in a year or two and still have said warranty. Lastly, I was able to pay 60 dollars to extend the warranty to 10 years. So if you got it at msrp I would definitely say its a solid purchase.
installed my 3090 ftw3 ultra yesterday. +170 core/+550vram. most stable OC on air i could get. $1938 shipped
Which Power supply are you using ?
@@TheAngelodavid seasonic prime 850w titanium
@@NirvashOne What’s difference Evga 24G-P5-3987-KR and Nvidia GeForce RTX 3090 Founders Edition ? Founders Edition is 30% cheaper.
Hope you win for the overclocking battle!!♥️
so glad you didn't start a fusion reaction during your thermal testing Steve! 9:14
For the GPU Awards, it might be useful to do performance VS power draw
The average gaming PC consumer frankly doesn’t care about power draw. I would venture to say most enuthusiasts don’t care about power draw. Power draw has yet to be a factor in the mind of consumers - so why would an award be weighted on it? I agree it should be a metric, but gaming PCs are still all about performance. That metric would be best for laptops, other mobile devices... I would love to see that sort of content. But still - you don’t see power draw show up on marketing slides (unless maybe it’s all there is to offer)
You wanna know how I ended up with a 3090?
Pandy provided me with a whole lot of free time at home, in front of my 4700k/GTX 1080, but then pandy taketh away when I decided to get one of those 3070s.
- after Sniper bots, discord notifications, nothing worked, I decided to camp out Microcenter.
- MC had a missed shipment coming that afternoon I went to line up, 20th in line, there turned out to be about seventeen 3070/3080s
- I was the “first” in line “without a ticket to buy” and they only had MSI and EVGA 3090s, I got the last evga for 1800, kid behind me had to settle for like a $2,300 MSI 3090.
I did not choose this life. But I do like the thermal sensors, otherwise, I thought it was one of the quieter and cooler 3090s, sucks it’s not. But my insane airflow setup has the fans under 70 and temps average 65° under maximum load.
Hear, hear! High, cheap, airflow has kept my 3090 around that temp too! Runs games splendidly and a game I enjoy playing, Squad, can run with high quality settings that consume high memory without concern!
I just got this card for 700$CAD, the performance is mostly excellent, but my goodness its hot! Heats up my room after 1-2 hours by multiple degrees, and even at idle is 50 degrees Celsius!
I have had my FTW3 Ultra 3090 in my system for 2 days now and it's mind-blowing fast. I've never had this type of performance ever. I play on a 1440p 165Hz Gigabyte monitor and with ultra Settings and Raytracing on Modern Warfare I get an average of 158FPS with G-Sync enabled. I know it was rediculous expensive. Hopefully it will last me at least 3 years or more like Pascal cards did when they went to market. BTW I paid $1998.74 after taxes and shipping costs.
So was it worth getting? I’m thinking about buying one my self
@@johnwest6977 still using it to this day. Added a nice aluminum heatsink to the backplate and good thermal pads and memory junction temps are below 90 C
Meanwhilw evga has released a 500watt bios for the 3090 ftw3
Holy shit, for real?
@@TheKazragore Yup ,I haven't gotten it yet but at the same time it's a power limit unlocker
I just bought an EVGA 850W 80 Gold PSU to replace my 750W PSU just for that new BIOS.
@liukangstoupee I calculated it would be 750w max with the 500w BIOS and my 10850K at stock clocks.
@@gionieves2646 I hope so. I’m running a corsair HX750i. 10700k with Ventus OC 3080(when it gets here). Thought about upgrading to an 850, but if you’re running a 3090 I should be good right
I don't know why I even touched this video. I'm not even considering buying an ampere card yet here I am
Steve is dream waifu hence I’m here
EVGA just release a 500W bios for this card, hard to imagine that 4-5 years ago. Arctic have a 360w gpu heatsink used to cool titans just a few years ago.
I believe you're thinking of the 450 watt VBios for the 3080 FTW3 Ultra, not the 3090: www.tomshardware.com/news/evga-beta-bios-rtx-3090
@@LilioCamere forums.evga.com/EVGA-GeForce-RTX-3090-FTW3-XOC-BIOS-BETA-m3124192.aspx This is the 500W bios, although i heard that 3080 get a similar 500w bios like this
@@askopte omg thank you! I’ll download this and test it on my card
I love this channel great information as always
Hi love the content, thank you for all of your hard work! You've helped me so much with buying my components for my new rig.
I noticed on the SOTTR benchmark that there are two scores for the RTX 3080 FE stock that appear to be the exact same. Not sure if this was an accident but I thought you might like to know.
1800$, it should be named 3090 UltraWTF
Can’t wait to see your 3080 Strix review
In Finland, price for this one seems to be eye watering 2099 euros. ._.
In Norway i paid 1860 usd for the FE card.
Europe: We get free everything! Suck it, Americans! 😜
Also Europe: Why is everything so much cheaper in America? 😭
@@Fyrwulf Go be a Canadian where you've got almost US prices but free everything like in Europe, except for the most important: Almost free Universities in Europe! 😭😭😭😭😭 (My debt was 40k after I finished mine in Toronto).
Here in Egypt, there is an MSI gaming trio sold for an amusing EUR 1950...
edit: in stock, not preorder
In Sweden the FE is "supposed" to be 16 800kr, aka ~$1 1918 or ~1 619€
Yay! Another awesome review (truly) of the product most of us CAN'T buy.
I bought 2
Just ordered a 3070 FTW3 (mail confirmed)
Hope it'll rock as this one
You guys have good prices there. In EU 3080's are almost that price. It's just sad that nobody talks about 'that'.
When the state pays for everything, the state needs to be paid.
@@Koreos_ I'm not. I just find all the complaining about prices from Europeans of late to be amusing.
@@Fyrwulf Even if you factor in taxes, the cards should be much lower than what they're currently retailing for. Most retailers are price gouging, not the state.
@@MasterOfInfinity No sense trying to reason with people who think a 10.000 dollar doctors visit is reasonable as long as the evil government is not involved ;)
@@foobarbazbaa5598 as someone in a country with "free healthcare", I much rather have the tax money myself and be able to save for a proper doctor. Good luck complaining about your "free" doctor when he's paid regardless of the service provided.
was on EVGAs list for a 3080 and a 3090 ftw3 ultra.my number came up for the 3090
seeing as the 3080 was selling (scalpers) for more than the 3090 MSRP bought it
have zero regrets its a awesome card and stomps everygame at 1440 ultraed out.
Heh, where I live 1800 USD is Palit RTX 3080 😢 And that is in retail shop. I found TUF cheaper at scalper, but still 1500 USD.
EDIT: I did not buy any of them, I need card, but I am not idiot. Gonna wait until stock populates and prices come closer to MSRP.
I ordered this card from the EVGA notification queue. I'd much rather have the FE, but my best buy 3090 order got cancelled.
It's the only thing I could somewhat easily get my hands on from a legit store. Better paying ~1800$ for a 3090 than ~1500$ for a scalper's 3080, at least that's what I tell myself.
I used some random associate code that I found and saved 5%. That's a good thing to keep in mind for the EVGA.com store.
I am waiting for my RMA on my EVGA FTW 3090. I had issues on a 1200i 10900k build getting over 450 watt power draw. (Even with 500w bios) Hopefully the new card I get today will shine!
Got the 3090 FTW3 Ultra on launch. Disappointed to see the 3090 FE got within 1% frames yet I paid more than $300 more. Really makes me think I might look at the FE for the 4000 series.
This is the Content We LOVE!!! Keep it up!
Amazon has two of these cards at the time of writing, and they’re $2,600. That’s more than was the Titan RTX!
I finally got one will be here Thursday 🎆
Finally the EVGA comparsion RTX 3090 I've been wanting to see :)
OMG IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS
I have this exact card and it is absolutely amazing.
EVGA has a new bios rated for 500w on their forums, but maybe they will add an extra 50 as well.
I just got this card today. It’s a noticeable improvement over my 2080 Ti with the Hybrid cooler. I’ve not tried to OC or change bios. Under load in a well ventilated Phanteks case, temperatures stay between 70 and 80. It is definitely expensive... But I was on EVGA’s mailing list and got an email yesterday saying they had one for me. It was hard to resist... Total with tax and overnight shipping came out to almost 2K... But that’s really the only 3000 card I was able to buy (without buying from a scalper).
can you do unigine heaven (1600x900 just extreme preset) and show a screenshot?
@@narfsc2657 I’ll look into it later today... Not sure I have unigine installed...
@@narfsc2657 Screenshot posted! Score of 7227 in stock, normal bios.
@@sphaera3809 where did you post it? Link please
Yikes. Glad I waited. Got one for 760 at microcenter 😂. Patience pays off. If i had spent 2k on this years ago Id be LIVID.
This is the first time your vids were in my notifications for some reason? There's been some other weird stuff with YT lately tho, maybe they are changing some crap on the backend lol
Open-air test benches are the best case scenario for open air cards. In an actual case the FE's partial blower design will perform better.
Ay I finally got this card. Not like I had an option of other cards.
I hear New Worlds loves this card
Everyone knows EVGA's warty fans and googly eyes improve airflow by 10%. SMH, flawed testing parameters.
Imagine paying 300 over the already overpriced founders edition for them to put lipstick all over it. If that isn't the clown makeup meme idk what is
@@ronakparikh And you just KNOW that some of the people that will buy them will also support riots and complain about "capitalism bad".
@@TechniqueSan Please keep those cringy american politics and hot takes out of my tech channel comments. Thank you.
@@MasterOfInfinity You might be shocked to find out the world doesn't revolve around your needs and wants.
I have the 3090 FTW3.
I also bought a second one to upgrade my boi from his 3080.
I have this card and it is hardly power limited. Whatever the overclocks settings I set in MSI AB, I get max 1995MHz and max 0,987V in TimeSpy.
I had to flash it with a 2x8pins bios from Gigabyte (Aorus extreme) in order to get sustained overclocks and much more less power limit. I should have bought the Asus Rog Strix....
I love GN and friends (Jay, Paul, BZ, etc) but I really want any other content besides the 3000 series.
Hardly anyone has the cards at all so seeing X review of Y brand version Z is (almost) useless. Seriously I would rather watch videos on countless peripherals or other hardware that I actually can buy.
Again, no hate on reviewers at all, NONE, y'all just doing your jobs. All 100% love from me.
When the scalping is included in the price...
I see what you did there EVGA.
I'd love to see a roundup based on power modding with buildzoid...like if you're willing to shunt what is the rankings for easiest (fewest) + has the stoutest VRM.
Same comments on every single 3000 series card review video...
"Every tech reviewer has all the 3000 series gpu's while it's out of stock😭😭"
shits gettin old.
It ain't gonna stop until Nvidia gets off their ass and produce more GPUs
@@arvinsim 🤦♂️
@@arvinsim Nvidia already said stock is going to come back early 2021 so lets all stop bitchin and wait.
@@PabzRoz Dont worry, you’ll be swimming in Ampere in a week.
@@Immebehindyou999 I'm good
I just thought of this while watching one of Jay’s videos - you guys never really build PC’s. You guys are my go-to for the best products and value assessments, so it seems natural for you guys to design and build what you consider a “best” PC (in your opinion). What do you prioritize? Which brands do you trust? Where is money often unnecessarily wasted in a build? Is it lit the fuck up with LEDs?
Just a thought. I’d love to see a Gamers Nexus recommended line of PC’s in the different form factors.
Thanks for this review! Not that I can afford this card.
So off topic but I got my EVGA FTW3 3080 and out of the box stock with a custom fan curve I was hitting 80 degrees C non stop with Battlefield V also in benchmarks, so took a look at the taredown video (thank you for that video) and decided to take the journey. The compound was very very thin (I wish I took a pic) and very hard. I applied some thermal grizzly and I can say I dropped legit 10 degrees or more haven't seen 80 degrees not even OC.... Hope this helps someone
They shoulda named these FTW THE GRILL EDITION with the heatoutput capable of cooking food. I would so love to see you build a custom heatsink that outputs directly to a radiator that is just a big solid copper tray, and cook hamburgers off it.
I need to expand my water cooling tank to 1 galon.
FYI Just ordered my card from the wait list on EVGA. I signed up for notification about 2 days before they told everyone they would start a list... I signed up for every card notification and received an email for the 3090 card being reviewed here. So stay positive... they are coming....
You know what IS hotter that the sun? An electrical arc!
you mean the surface or the corona of the sun?
my personal experience:
1. 90 fe (great oc, very very cool even on 114% power.
2. 3080 ftw ultra. (good oc, cool, quiet) good card.
3. 3080 xc ultra (decent card, quiet, ok oc, semi warm)
4. 3080 fe (kinda noisy, kinda warm. no oc room but on early drivers)
5. 3090 msi ventus oc. (early drivers, but semi noisy, artifacting at stock-dud of a card)
sticking with the 90 fe...at 114% +100 core oc im at around 63c.
my 80 ftw ultra at +100 core at 118% power i was about 72c.
i custom modded my case side glass and replaced with filter screen. everything supercool now. I highly recommend getting a mesh case or modding. I tried every config of intake and exhale and i was fine but a mesh side is easy cool.
I'd like to see the EVGA 3090 XC3 reviewed, for a few reasons. First, the FE won't ever be available in most of the world, and the FTW3 is very expensive, so reviewing near-MSRP AIB boards is relevant to more people. Second, the XC3 is the smallest 3090 on the market by a big margin, does that compromise its cooling? Third, the XC3 Black variant has no backplate, which means half the VRAM has absolutely no cooling. How does the 3090 respond on cards that don't cool the rear VRAM?
after seeing this im much more relieved I was able to get an FE card prior to my waitlist on evga. I do 3d work and not so much high end overclocking and this definitely doesnt look worth the price jump for my use case. Although I will love to see world records moving forward :D
stabile? no bad chips? honesty?`
I just got this exact card today and love it I was able to get the core to stay between 2040-2055mhz with spikes up to 2160mhz. 14100 port royal score.
Same here. I got mine on Wednesday. My core actually got to 2205 with port royal at 14137. I'm curious to try the new VBIOS for the 500W power limit.
@Michael Watts here ya go 3d mark reported clocks diffrently than percison x but still good www.3dmark.com/pr/432692
@@jthomas1215 Dangg think your silicon is better than mine I'm already using the 500w
Hi Steve,
any chance of adding to your tests power consumption at fixed fps (60, 120, 144, etc) comparing to other GPUs to see how efficient or not they are?
Sad thing is everyone other 3090 available in Canada when I got mine was the same price as that gagatuan monstrosity.
So I got one😆
But the price gouging was like 150$ on that model all MSRP & conversion taken into account so not too too bad I guess...
The EVGA Forum is starting to populate with 3080 and 3090 FTW3 Ultra Cards letting out the smoke. Even users that have already RMAed, received their replacement, which also let the smoke out, and back in line for RMA. Its great that EVGA has good support but RMA Limbo sucks and shipping these graphics cards multiple times starts to add up.
The eVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra 24GB GDDR6X
is $3059 AUD not including shipping. Pretty much everything else is out of stock at stores.
As someone who has always bought parts based on a price/performance ratio heavily emphasizing optimizing for the knee of the curve, this 3090 release amazes me. Although from a content producer perspective I can understand the coverage, it's what your user base likely wants, I just don't 'get' how over sensationalized this stuff is, the 3090 release was so over hyped fed by foaming at the mouth fanbois it damages my opinion of the PC maker scene as a whole, although your coverage of it has been great.
We're really at the point where you're discussing percentage points that are beyond human perception after how many dozens if not hundreds of hours benching this stuff? My desire to be cost conscious while performance minded is slightly offended. But you guys cover that end of things fairly well too, I would love to see your charts contain some kind of value metric based on all data points you've collected normalized across price/performance, a really hard trick to pull off but it would in my opinion represent the single most important metric you could produce with the data collected even if it would be a bear to come up with the proper data to feed into and normalize.
Remember Nvidia makes hardware/software but they are really a Marketing Company. Think about it from that angle. Nvidia are masters of marketing. They release the hottest loudest cards ever, with not actually a huge improvement "in fact one of the worst in their history" but yet their marketing has done such a great job to get people to "reflex buy" as soon as a card is available. And condition the people to be willing to pay 2x / 3x /4x the msrp of the card.
@@dralord1307 this is way beyond Nvidia. This occurs across they entire 'gaming hardware' market.
you need a value metric? you can't draw these types of conclusions with all the data presented? lol come on man..
It's $1800. That's what I paid. If they lower the price upon restocks I'll be pissed lol...
How do you feel now
Well, i think to get the best out of this card withing reasonable limits you'd have to put it under water. Igor extracted up to 2.2Ghz from a 3080 with an Alphacool Block, so i assume with the higher power limit you have higher limits if you can cool it. To me personally a card with a higher powerlimit is always preferable as i do watercool it. I'd totally love this card with the new 500W BIOS but i can't see myself spending that much money for it, so i'd hope for a 400W 3080 Card that i can really push.