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Oh good, I was worried there wasn't going to be another card I can't afford!
😂 Great txt
LOL 😂
😂😭😂 winner of today's comment section 👌🏽
i still wait for the "JeffBezos" 3090 ti ultra max™ edition, made of pure Gold for only 5000$. Btw. i still love my GTX 970 :)
@@constantinehoof8020 $5k that’s the dumpster edition… more like 20k
*Few months from now*
"Here we have the brand new 4060, 50% more performance than the 3090Ti for half the price"
Yep, every single time.
yep, next year I guess :D
@@Azhureus it’s actually coming out this yr
But with 1000w power consumption
Indeed
They're gonna have to start calling them "graphics bricks" instead of "graphics cards" at this rate
the heatsink is just crazy big.
@@Balmung812 Its no longer a heatsink, Its now a radiator
Maybe even graphic banks
Graphic BLOCK
Graphics buildings
21:24 Lmao I was hurting from laughter after Jay knocked the 2.2k GPU over and said Linus as he did it 🤣
I guess we found a new definition for "Linus" ... the dropping of expensive tech gear.
ie: "I just linus-ed my 3090....."
@@rvs55 😂
I got half way to a grin.
Damn missed it since they cut it out now
Yeah I think we as the tech community need to just agree that dropping something = Linus
I’m waiting for the 5 slot 4090 Ti… or a 7 slot Noctua version with a full NH-D15 extension maybe
I'm waiting for the graphics card that requires its own separate tower
@@Smitty_Werbenjagermanjenson 😂😂😂😂😂
I would buy that
Soon we will need to dedicate a whole room to the gpu because it would get so unbearably hot.
imagine the low temps it would have with the nh-d15
As cards get crazier, your gonna need a “let’s weigh it” segment in your reviews!
We might have to pivot back to “desktop” orientation PC’s instead of towers just to make it so these massive GPU’s don’t break something lol
@@HVDynamo Shipping this card in a PC must be a nightmare. That thing is beyond insane.
@@HVDynamo latest pc is a desktop case just built a new bottom so l could manage the cables, even got the aio rad and fans on the outside of case cos wont fit inside the case
@@HVDynamo I already have that for about 8 years. Actually, its an HTPC case that barely fits my 3070Ti FTW Ultra.
Finally, a GPU which costs double the base cost of every other top shelf component inside your computer case.
It costs as much as my car
@@Rspsand07 I wanted to say pretty much the same. But my car isn't even worth that much
@@Rspsand07 it literally cost more than my car, and just as much as the my whole entire pc build. My pc was around 2300$
Good. Twice the power draw double the 🔥.
I'm already in the EVGA Queue waiting to get one ... wanna turn my $6K PC into a $6,400 PC 💀 ☠️
I’ve just picked up a 3090 Ti FTW on Amazon today on sale for prime day.
Feels almost special to have one of the last EVGA cards out there.
Im glad you guys did a video on it
These things are eventually just going to be free-standing units with built-in PSUs that plug in separately.
Like a mini itx build that would be your rig's mini me!
That wouldnt be the worst thing
Building a new shed Fred?
Nah, it's the cooler for my 9090ti.
Sooooo........an Xbox? Lol 🤣🤣🤣
@@davidwilson4190 the way they're going, it's gonna be mini ITX sized in cooling fins alone....
It’s going to be great. These cards are going to start popping circuit breakers or requiring people to rewire their homes.
Indeed. Between this card, the system needed to leverage it, and the monitor required to even minimally load it, there isn’t much left for extras like LEDs and such on a standard 15A breaker. Don’t even think about non-led lightbulbs in your lighting fixtures.
Most power supplies have a 220v switch o.0
@@center4nerds That’s for compatibility with EU outlets. Despite the really awful form-factor, their higher voltage reduces current draw and overall helps improve device efficiency. But for us North Americans, higher wattage comes at the price of capping out on breaker (and possibly wiring) current ratings.
Lol
@@luminatrixfanfiction It just means they are really inefficient(because they have bf heatsinks and fans). They seriously need to figure a way to do this without so much power.
Congrats on having a positive impact on the industry, Jay!
Now the card sells for $1300. Insane to think about. Now the 3090ti is cheaper then the 3080 was when this video was made.
in my opinion, a differently designed "hang cable" or whatever would probably look cool in all kinds of themed builds.
Next will just paint it white
You know argb gpu hangers are in the making
Looked fine to me. I dont see what the issue was here. J is just OCD.
@@RumpleFoldSkin You just know there's someone coming up with fakes already.
Especially custom cords
21:26 "Linus..." :P
I've always bought older gen stuff and I will continue doing so... Pointless to pay twice the price for 10% more performance
Only in production a 10% increase in performance would really be worth the extra cost
Next gen will surely have better price/performance and older gen will be priced somewhat competitively but not better to not affect new gen sales too much. Its best to buy GPUs after new generation launches.
No pointless for some, I'm guessing there is quite a lot of high end PC gamers with cash to burn.
I mean if I had the money I would do the same..
@nomasporfavor Man 3080 has 60% more frames on avarage in 1440p and Up to a 100% more in 4k. At launch of 3080 2070 super cost around 700 while 3080 was 1200. That is with diminishing returns for higher end cards. We should compare it with 3070 ti.
@nomasporfavor nahhh just smart... My money goes elsewhere.. truck/boat/atv/snowmobile/ camping trailer....
The next step will be GPU's that have brackets that allow you add things like MB's and CPU's etc
This comment deserves more likes.
LOLOL
Kinda funny that we've collectively given up on our good old PC as a principle and just said fuck it, we have our own new computer architecture but we're gonna make them pluggable to the old computer shell for that cozy familiar feeling, and hey you, Intel and AMD over there, you're just gonna make heating devices that translate user inputs into GPU commands and offer backdoors for the CIA 😄
some gpus have m.2 slots
RTX 5090 Caddy Edition. With unparalleled performance, so extreme its housed in its own wheeled caddy. Roll the competition.
🤣🤣🤣
For the performance boost and at $2200 USD this sounds like a really bad value for the card tbh. So done with this generation's gpu price. LOL. Anw great review as usual Jay!
It's just like the original 3090 not worth the price but people buy it because bigger number
@@vizioax2 bigger number?
@@vizioax2 ya but then again wiling seller willing buyer. It's just such a bad time for pc builders now. I guess moving forward we just have to adapt to this trend.
@@TonyisToking the 3080 was the better option for gaming hands down. The only reason to have ever got the 90 was if you needed the extra ram
@@TonyisToking i think he is referring to 3070, 3080, 3090 and people choose to buy 3090 as it has the bigger number
The good old days.. i miss them. When a 1200 dollar would get you a high end gaming system. These days you can just buy the gpu with that. Not even the highest end one.
I know….crazy man
probably need the strap to keep it vertical too
If you find it*
almost 15 years ago, 1200 dollars would let you buy a 9800GX2 for the high end, but you would have blown half the budget tho... accounting inflation, the 9800GX2 might be closer to 1000 bucks, so... 1200 would get you a high end graphic card, but average tier CPU and MB and not much more room for PSU (it was WAY more expensive to buy high end PSUs 15 years ago), price didnt change that much (when you put the change because of shortage aside).
@@antoinepersonnel6509 yeah, well in general throughout history, most high end gpus were not that expensive. Sure. At times some strange cards were released that basically were 2 gpus in one. But in the era of Voodoo 2 cards(299 dollar) all the way up to gtx 480 to 580 680 gpus. The top cards would be around 500. Gx2 cards were just strange cards. Basically 2 gpus put into one. Those are exceptions.
i cant lie i love the look of that leash, it just reinforces the idea that this is the most powerful card, the aesthetic of a huge brick with a cable being needed to keep it in place. Thats such a cool visual.
Can’t imagine having such a chunky card 😂 this is like unobtainable tier level of hardware but I still really enjoyed the video!
I wonder if we will see a 90 degree connector for the power cable? I can see some use for that with length constrained builds
I wonder who ACTUALLY buys a card seeing this video and thinks: Hey! This is a reasonable and affordable card with good price/performance ration and fits perfectly in my budget!
At this stage its just a game with creators, who get the privilegies and play with thoose things.
Remember PC Gaming back in 2018. It was just about fun and now its just about c*ck sucking around who has the biggest and most power hungry card out there...
@@TobiasDettinger The same kind of person who gets a flat tire and buys a new car.
@@TobiasDettinger Nobody buying a 3090Ti thinks that. Not even 3090 buyers. Also, the sucking part might be a fantasy of yours. Some people are just enthusiasts. I don't care about other people.
@@frizzlefry1921 A better comparison would be someone buying a Corvette instead of a Camry even though both can go from point A to point B.
the only problem with a 90 degree connector on this card is that the connector on the card itself would be vertical so the 90 degree would be going straight down so it’d be kind of weird to do
Us in 2035: "Remember back in the day when you had the 3090TI with the freakin' hook and pulley?! Those were the days"
Commenting here for seeing how well this statement ages in the next decade.
8090TI price: 8000$
Only one cable? Those were the good days! Now we need an industry type floor to support the weight!
Me in 2035
rememvber back in the day when there was a 3090TI which we couldn't afford?
.....
we still cant afford it
Remember back when the GPU went inside of the PC chassis instead of the other way around?
Yes! Another GPU worth more than my entire setup. Just what I needed. Thanks Nvidia!
Stop being poor.
why is the 150w difference between the cables. i dont understand the difference. could somebod explain? as i checked thos cable. tos only ave 2 8 pin connectors for the psu, not 3 maybe thats why? sy help me out :D
and also i excatly have 300m vga clearence, in my case, what can i do whit the pug? is there a 90 degree ultra slim sg converter?
i would like the power adapter on it to be move half a centimeter closer to the inside of the card, getting rid a smaller inch out of the heatsink no problem, but i could run my cables nice and tidy next to the end of te heatsink.
@@religionlol7323 Just stop being poor, just buy a mansion, just buy the planet
Considering the huge rise in cost of electricity, when is going to hit these hardware companies that pouring more watts into these cards isn't the linier progression in desired performance as it used to be. Having a GPU that does 80% of the performance at half the wattage is far more attractive. What was just an interesting point before this year, wattage use, I think is now important, people gotta watch that electric bill.
you are free to undervolt your card if you want and even then still get some oc
We building nuclear in England. We will be fine. 👍
@@byronwellburn It takes 5 years at least to build a nuclear power station. In the meantime our energy bills are going to be crippling.
you can make up the difference pretty easy in other stuff you do, it is only half power difference like you said.... 225 watt difference.....
@@byronwellburn Nuclear is one of the most expensive forms of electricity.
Thank GOD for the IO bracket change. Hopefully EVGA carries that forward to new generations' lower-to-mid tier cards too
Yeah, IDGAF about the 3090Ti, but it's good to see EVGA listening to feedback about their 30 series card design.
@@thekraken8him Yeah I’ll be honest EVGA has been winning a lot of points for listening to its customers and not just miners,z they did a good job with a tasteful redesign over the weird looking 3090 fyw3
Jeeeeze I have the regular 3090 ftw and thought that was a massive card, this one looks like it took steroids and is ready to beat your motherboard.
And I'm still running a gt710 after almost 2 years, cheeah
@@Daniel-dj7fh wtf are you playing on a gt710 😂
@@Daniel-dj7fh I know from experience that cards graphics capabilities are shite aha and you can’t even get 5 fps on wz 😂
I have your card and THE only part I am jealous about is that they put the memory on the front instead of the back. But luckily EVGA did a great job at cooling the back memory
Cheahhhhh
I'm just glad to see the memory having all been moved to the side of the card most cooling solutions focus on. I always felt the memory on the back side of cards was in a precarious position in regards to cooling.
You don't just feel like it. It is... I literally have an industrial noctua fan pointed straight at the back of mine to manage the Temps 👍
@@adamtheninjasmith2985 I'm just procrastinating on buying an active backplate for mine. Especially in future when newer games push the card harder is going to basically become a necessity...
@@TheKazragore me too. I've been contemplating modifying the backplate and adding heatsinks straight to the memory modules even. Full time single dad with a full time job side of me says that this works for now and until it doesn't... 👍 Lol
I also added alumium heatsinks with thermals pads and a noctua fan. But theres only so much it can do. If you REALLY wanna cool dragstic down you can open the GPU and add copper plates to it. coolmygpu makes such
Crazy to hear it was $2,200 during this video. I just purchased one new from Amazon for $1,399 from EVGA store (Yes, 3090ti EVGA FTW Ultra)
Personally, I get the feeling the 3090ti is more of a panic response to AMD's aggressive push against them as of late. With the RX 6900xt performing so well, and with RDNA 3 just around the corner, Nvidia might be getting nervous because (Much like Intel were) they've been coasting on being the top dog for so long
I think you've nailed it right there.
I don't really see how the 3090 Ti works toward that goal. The 3090 is already very very slightly faster than the 6900 XT on average and it won't stand a chance against RDNA3 or Lovelace. Nvidia technically has the top dog performance so the 3090 Ti changes nothing and it only sabotages Nvidia's own reputation. I don't understand why Nvidia would release this GPU, unless they really are trying to sell off remaining A6000 stock.
@@lycanthoss Rumour has it that AMD is launching an RX 6950xt along with some refreshes for the lineup. So it might be a respond to that.
Absolutely not. If Nvidia was worried about amd stealing their market share, this card would be slotted in where the 3090 sits now as an incremental upgrade for the same or similar performance boost similar to what we've seen in the past with the super refresh on the 20 series.
This is just Nvidia milking a screwed up gpu market for all the money they can.
Also, 40 series is coming Q3 of this year - any worries Nvidia has about AMD will be addressed with those cards, not this abomination.
@@boredplayer7425 by the time that card is out the 40 series will be out, or very close.
This card exists for nothing more than to milk a screwed up gpu market for all the money they can possibly can.
If they were worried about competition from amd, they would have dropped this card into the same price range as the 3090 and said here you go consumers, more performance for same dollar! (kinda like how the 20 series got a super refresh that was better value per dollar).
I went from a 970ssc to a 3070ti. That performance uplift was just insane.
I feel you, I went from a 970 hybrid to a 3090 ftw ultra.
@@YUREtheFURY I bet that card runs phenomenal.
@Ghost Services it does! I have it on water with 4 rads in the loop, it idles at 25c and stays under 50c under load in every game I play at 4k.
1060 6gb to 3070, performance jump was more than double but it left me a little bit of a bitter taste because of the 8gb vram, nothing feels worse than having to turn down settings because you are vram limited at 1440p extreme/ ultra settings in games like watch dogs legion, FH5, kena, Resident evil 2 and 3 for example.
@@manuelmunguia616 I feel that pain. I think the 70’s skew should be at least 10-12 these days. DLSS is a must If supported when doing any type if streaming or recording.
Just when you thought 2080 to a 2080ti was dissapointing, Nvidia seems to outdo themselves.
You are not supposed to throw away your 3090 to buy this. This is nothing more than a series of revisions to squeeze out every bit of reliable performance they can. This is a "if you really must have the best and have too much money" card.
???? There was a noticeable speed increase from the 2080….. at least you got something for the price bump
@@andrewt.5567 if this was at launch it will be a better value than the thermal issues 3090 one
price to performance to the 3090 its actually not bad. if you want the very best card you gotta pay.
@@kevinforget549 the normal 3090 is way too expensive for what it is.
Motherboard: exists.
3090ti: Look at me, I am the motherboard now
3090ti: *running maximum speed*
Crysis 5 and RTX 4090: .... On your left
3090ti: OH COME ON
Just got my 3090ti yesterday, went all out, buy once cry once and I'll be good for years to come (hopefully). 3090ti AMD Ryzen 7 5800XD (lol), ASUS ROG STRIX x570-f Mobo, 32Gb DDR4 RAM @3600, 1Tb Nvme M.2 SSD and a 2TB HD
Kudos to EVGA for listening to customers / reviewers and thus truly improving their products.
You sold out to EVGA too? ROFL.
@@positrack99 sold out no. But when a company makes progress on something it's good to praise it(as it is to criticize bad product when they make one). I am not getting into the " fanboy " realm. Just because a UA-camr I respect likes / leans towards a specific brand, doesn't mean it becomes my favourite.
@@Stru-bacon Evga and Jay being a shill legitimately fucked many people over. He said "Buy now!, don't wait, it's the best time!" Meanwhile the 3090ti evga cards dropped from 2.2k to 1150 QUICKLY. They should be absolutely sued over that. They were panicking because they wanted the 40 series delayed, so they could unload their 40 series, and here was a huge part in the fallout between nvidia and evga. Evga are absolute scumbags for what they did to people. But, I also don't feel bad for the idiots who listened and paid 2.2k. Glad I waited for the 4090, and i'm glad evga isn't in the game anymore. They are as bad as AMD when it comes to misleading people. Go watch frame chasers video on the matter. Evga are not the angels you think they are, and they absolutely are Anti-consumer/greedy
It's so interesting how Apple is pushing hard on efficiency with their in-house ARM chips, whereas the PC market is just YOLOing it and cranking up the wattage. 850w for JUST a GPU is absolutely nuts. Not a fan at all of Apple's design decisions or desktop products, but I do like efficiency. Hoping at some point we can come back down to earth with these insane power draws.
Rumors are swirling around that the RTX 5000 series might use ARM…not sure if true or not (obviously)
It may be worth skipping the 4000 series
Those chips do not perform nearly as well, advertising bs.
It's a desktop, give me the most performance. I'm not on a battery. I'll gladly trade 500W for even 5 fps
The 3090ti doesn't consume 850W. More like 400-450W, which is still crazy. The 4090 will allegedly consume ~800W
@@Rspsand07 bros obviously not paying for power
Jay finally got his hands on the Unicorn!
3090ti is just a test run for the 4090. This card isn't really meant to be bought but to see how well the cooler will work for the space heater that is going to be the 4090
yep this is exactly what i was thinking also, but damn that gpu so THICC, its kinda sexy.
If I get a 4090, I'm not getting anything less than a Hydro copper version
Still running my 1080TI and it's keeping up. Next upgrade would be to a 3080TI, however price needs to drop. Maybe when I retire it'll be lower price.
my favorite card. please run it to the ground that thing is a beast!
Check again, cuz prices have come down and this card is in stock. Probably not the board partner you want but you can find Zotacs close to $1200.
Stop helping Nvidia!!! Go with a 6800xt! Seriously tho, AMD needs some loving and at least their 6xxx series actually competes unlike their others. I'm going to be buying a 6800xt soon. (3090 and 6900xt are wastes of money for the amount of performance gain. Not worth it).
@@wombat5252 6800xt has similar average fps, but there are more dips. There are also some issues with amd in general, such as opengl performance. It’s just not worth the price they’re charging over the 3080. It makes more sense to just pay a little more for the 3080 and have a seamless experience, less frame drop, good performance open gl, high memory bandwidth. No infinity cache bandaid shit. Just raw gddr6x bandwidth with that wide bus. And even if the drivers are getting better for amd.. they are still worse than nvidia. You can fanboy over a company if you want, but i’m just looking at the end product.
@@ilovehotdogs125790 wym by dips? The 1% lows on all 6000 series AMD cards seem higher than the NVIDIA 3000 series in benchmarks that I've seen. That being said for streaming/production NVIDIA definitely seems like the winner. Personally I don't care for DLSS or ray tracing in gaming so eh. That being said for raw gaming performance, especially at 1440p, I can't argue that AMD isn’t competing well.
I'm feeling something warm and delightful when I see the girthiness of these cards. It looks solid, and definitely fills out a standard ATX case better than a puny 2.5 slot card
How long did it take to come up with that? And are you proud of yourself? Well?!
You should be. Well done! 😆
High end cards sure do feel warm.
And we all know thats the most important factor. What it looks like! "Screw all that stupid video processing crap! Whats the lighting and the thickness man???!!"
That's what she said.....
Ngl I would've been curious in the benchmarks to see it compared to the EVGA FTW model of the 3090, not the FE.
Oh hello there! 😄👋🏻 I'm surprised to have found you in this content section.
I have watched a lot of your FIFA videos over the years, say since 2016. 😄
Well that's an almighty slap in the face in a climate where energy prices are out of control and GPU prices are still way above MSRP.
What's coming later this year, a request for your own personal nuclear power station to run the 40 series?
Yeah for the 4050 (Non-Ti), don't ask about the 4090 Ti Super!
at least its clean energy
More than two years later I’m still loving my FTW3 3090 Ti! Best well made gpu ever built!
21:26 I love that Linus is now synonymous with "dropping expensive tech components"... Linus-ing, doing a Linus, etc etc.
lol thats what I thought I heard.
Lmao that ending was perfect.
It's nice that the memory is on the front side of the card now, I always thought the 3090 was a card you'd really want to waterblock to keep those rear memory modules cool.
You'd have to water block both sides, back and front and not just the front for 3090s
Sold! Already bought 2 to SLI and go for the world record!
Better get 3 and give one to frankie
“A fool and their money are soon parted”
Congrats on being the perfect example of that saying. Fool.
I picked this up used yesterday for $1020. It's insane what's happened to the GPU market!
I had no intention on picking up a 30 series card, but my 2080ti died on me last and and I was able to snag this for the same price. Never would’ve thought that was possible a yr or two ago
@@Chitown-zf4gs hold on to it bro.. last god-tier EVGA card
@@CastIronEric facts bruh I love that card so much. I’m hoping it can be fixed otherwise it’ll be a cool display item
3080 TI looks to be the sweet spot out of the 4 cards used for the comparison.
It's all ways and will for ever actually be the 3080. If I wanted to ball out on a card though like just blow extra money it would be a 3080 ti or 3090. If I was chasing maximum frames on a lower budget I'd just stick with a 3080 ti. For a few hundred more rhe 24 gb of vram on the 3090 was more appealing for me. At this point I'm tired of chasing frames with the 30 series. It's like ok next card is $300 more here's 5+ frames more. But a 3080 3080 ti ir 3090 and call ir a day(preferably the 3080)
jaeguerra909 yea I said screw it and flipped my way up from a 3060 to a 3080 ti, sold that, and i ordered the 3090 the other day.. i considered waiting for this but nah its really not worth it lol
I bought a 80ti fe a while back at best buy. I'm happy with it and will not be upgrading at all. If I was in the market currently. I'd either buy used or wait to see new card stocks. It's my first build and from now on I'll buy used and save big. I wanted to get away from console and have a real pc experience for the first time.
@@11onejay Did you have a stroke at the end of your rant?
Yeah, I agree. It's also crazy that the 3080Ti actually beats out the 3090 in a lot of games at each of the three most common resolutions. I got my 3080Ti at MSRP and have literally zero regrets.
And what about the rumors that even a 4070 would be cheaper and more powerful than a 3090 ti? They are so close, that it kind of makes it pointless. Maybe if Nvidia never made a more powerful card... but yeah. Tech is always moving. If they released this on day 1, like 2 years ago? It could be a worthwhile card. Having this card for a few months and... then next gen... you know what... yeah. Its just going to feel super meh.
Imaging spending soooo much money and that card wont even be relevent for too long.
They're still rumours...you'll notice that this trend happened every 2 generations, twice(1070=980ti & 3070=2080ti)
If it's consistent, we'll see this continue with 5070 and 4080ti...maybe
Also ppl who buy these cards legit dont care about dropping that much cash, they'll just buy the 4090ti anyway
Well thats the thing, for now its rumours. But it safe to assume that by 3rd RT gen they are quite better at them by now, but they're also not dumb, they put the performance of cards in line to not mess up profits.
Now this 3090Ti is obviously a flex card for the utmost enthusiast so I doubt they'll care if the next gen card surpasses it, they do care if suddenly a 4050 does better than a 3070/3080 since thats where most of the bulk enthusiasts are at and expect their cards to be competetive still, below 3070's users I don't think care all that much.
@@dontmatter4423 Yeah probably most but not all. I had a friend that got a 2080 ti during its most overpriced time. He was always mad how that card got old too fast. There are some people that make big purchases with hard earned money, its not all rich people (but probably 99% of them are :P)
@@elvewizzy Yeah, thats the part that worries me. Buying expensive card is not a big deal, but that card having to draw a lot of power is a big deal.. also makes heat in the summer lol.
Thank you for the comparison. Setting insane prices aside, the comparison charts aren't exactly standardized, as a 3090 FTW3 would perform better than the 3090 FE. This can be easily seen as the 3080 Ti FTW3 performs and sometimes outperforms the 3090. This doesn't happen if you compare across the FTW3 line. The graphs make it seem like a 12-15% jump in performance from 3090 to 3090 Ti, but with a complete FTW3 comparison is closer to 8%. Either way, can't justify the 33% MSRP increase ($1500 to $2000) from 3090 to 3090 Ti lol
@Geriatric Gamer I believe Gamer Nexus does that comparison
Even worse of a money comparison if you don't need 24 gigs of VRAM (most don't) and just get a 3080 Ti and save even more money over the 3090 Ti.
I really like what EVGA did to improve the design and quality of this particular model of the 3090Ti. I hope this will carry through their future high tier GPUs. Good job EVGA! 👍
this aged well
@@clover910 RIP
@@clover910 Lol I was going to write that
Remember the good old days when you could build a decent PC for less than 2K? And now this.
You can still do that at MSRP
Pretty sure the 3090ti pisses on the word "decent" 😂
a 3090 is anything but decent. This is literally the best GPU you can buy. that is upper of the upper high end pc gaming. go get a 3050 or 60 when they came down in price for a decent pc. that being said, 2k is ridiculous.
You still can buy good pc for decent money, just decent now and in the past dosen't mean the same. This isn't card for average joe, in the same way, as titan cards weren't for average joe. I bought 1080(non-ti) in 2017 and it is still doing great job at 2560x1080. Now if you buy RTX 3080 it will be great for next few years at 1440p. Yes PC now cost more than old ones, but prices always go up for many diffrent reasons. In 2032 you will post something like "do you remember cheap gpu's under 3k". I hope my english isn't terrible :)
I think a lot of the improvement on the 3090 Ti's results is that the memory is now 2Gb and all on the one side of the PCB. Being able to effectively cool all the memory now is a big gain for the cards.
it's literally 6% faster than a stock 3090 for 33% price increase lol
@@insomniacbritgaming1632 I didn't say that it was worth the price. Just that it's an improvement on design.
@@Slizzo82 it's really not lol
@@insomniacbritgaming1632 As a AI/ML hobby enthusiast looking at 3090s, it really is worth it to me. For gamers, definitely not.
@@danielmarco4818 would you not be better off with a titan or an actual workstation GPU?
oh btw the nvidia leaks have told that 1) expect 600w gpus 2) the 4090 could be around +80% faster in raster thand a 3090 (it's almost double the cores for a start) so that 3090ti is a giant troll to buyers
Just ordered mine on the weekend sale!
3090 tie moment, this thing is so much more complicated than the 3090
its not tie. it's tea eye
Oh yeah
It's the same chip, just fully enabled.
@@Ladioz its a reference to the guy who said 3090 tie instead of tea eye
@@memeations Ah got it
I really wanted to know if 4K 60FPS was finally possible with
Red Dead Redemption 2
Microsoft Flight Simulator
MSFS is mostly CPU limited, and he's still on a 10th gen Intel CPU in his test system.
If series x can it should.
I get that in-flight sim with a 3080. So not sure what the problem you are having. 10900k, 32gb ram.
@@ryangibson2831 as far as I'm aware. 4k 60 isn't possible with flight sim 2020. Not with 100% resolution scaling
@@WigWoo1 Are you sure about that?
eVGA has it for $1199 right now - Aug 6, 2022
My wife just ordered me one of these for my birthday, it gets here Monday. Super stoked to install it and upgrade from my 2070!
They are nuts on those kinds of pricing, I guess I will be waiting for the 4000 series of cards.
They are designed really for professional use, in that case you offset the cost against your tax return.
Probably cost even more tbh
Were you really holding out for a cheap 3090 Ti?
4000 series card? Good luck, you're going to need a 1,200 watt power supply, and cash to spend on electricity bill per month lol
Jay I have learned more about the internal workings of a computer by just watching your videos than I ever have anywhere else!!
My two favorite things about this are the I/O plate and the fan header. It would be great if these were standard inclusions in anything mid range and up. And I think the least appealing thing about the current FTW models is the obnoxious RGB implementation... of course, that might be a selling point for someone else.
The 3080, 3080 Ti, and regular 3090 also all have the fan header. I'm not sure about the other 30 series cards.
My Strix 1070 (yes, 10 series) has two fan headers 8)
I don't mind RGB, but it has to be tasteful. Some of it is obnoxious and another reason for more mark ups.
If anyone wants to buy that corsair keyboard. Be aware of any strange spring clicking sound, check each key and if you have that „ping” sound on release, return it. I had it and it is really annoying. For this price it should be perfect.
I bet that would be an awesome card for rendering. Looking forward to reviews comparing it's performance in production environments.
Now if only I earned 10 times what i currently do, I'd buy one to check it out.
Has anybody used it with the Octane Renderer?
I just got the 3090 RTX, not the Ti, and in rendering. I went from a 2 1080 GTX "SLI" -- Yes, I know rendering will not use SLI, sadly, curse the CUDA - -into this beast, and my render times went from 3 mins to sometimes 30 seconds. For the same scene. I don't think this Ti will change enough about render times, that I will bother with this card though.
@@shayliakara That is interesting. I'm running a pair of Quadro 5000s with NVLink and when I added the second one my render times were cut in half. I didn't realize that Octane couldn't use SLI on those cards. So it's just for realtime design work that you get the performance bump?
@@promographics1654 SLI is not relevant for rendering of this kind, it doesn't work that way. One can cable it up and turn it on, but it won't make any useful difference.
If it's about paying the bills though then power consumption may matter, ie. cost per frame, factoring in the lifetime usage vs. expected return (something slower but more efficient doesn't help if it means one can't meet deadlines. :D) Usually the sweet spot is multiple middleground cards, though years ago I did put four GTX 580s in a system to test out CUDA scaling with AE, worked pretty well. For a Blender build in a warm environment though (engineering company in India) I used two GTX 980s, that was a good compromise - faster than a 1080 Ti, and back then the cost of the latter was too prohibitive.
Btw Promo, you'd get a decent speed bump from the K series Quadros, though for rendering the gains are much larger with equivalent gamer cards, assuming the lesser VRAM isn't an issue, though it does depend on the application. The main movie company I know though just uses RTX 8000s, they need the VRAM for unc. 8K. Mind you, the later M series cards ought to be on the used market by now.
One advantage of Quadros is they have a full speed PCIe return path (gamer cards don't, because it's not necessary for gaming).
@@mapesdhs597 There aren't many SLI options in this 3000 generation of Nvidia cards. Would you try and use 2 3090s or just get a Quadro?
Imagine doing a double 3090 ti build on XL cases
and pushing twards 2kw per hour of playing
1000w recomended PSU!!!! Wow I thought thought tech companies wanted to reduce the power and keep the power. Also Jay don't forget AMD is launching a refreshed RX6000 line up.
huh, when
Great card if you can't wait for the 4000 series but current prices are tempting ...
years ago when I had a 4870x2 which was like the most expensive/powerful gpu at the time (was basically 2 cards in crossfire on one board) I had to cut a piece of coat hanger down and make a little hook to support the weight of the card just like that "leash"
Great solution. One time I used a chapstick sitting on top of the psu shroud
@@iamatlantis1 I custom built a Lego brace to hold up my gpu
Perhaps another test, at least one I'm interested in. Cap the fps at idk 120 or something away from the CPU bottleneck and take note of GPU utilisation and power draw.
If all the cards can reach high enough fps then finding if the newer one can do it better, efficient, quieter will be weighted higher, at least for me.
Or even 100 fps which is my monitor limit. I mean seriously, who can tell the difference between 100 and 140 if by doing so you raise the 1% number above 90?
@@KenOtwell asking that is like me asking why you go above 60 or 80 fps. yes if you play on a 144 or 165hz monitor and run a game that only gets 100 fps but maybe there's a map where you get all 144 fps you will see the difference
@Gerardo Gonzalez why do you think that 60 to 80 is much different but once you hit 100 it means nothing? Why would there be 360hz monitors if it meant nothing? I'm sorry you are to poor to own the monitors and PC components that would allow you to experience it but perpetuating the myth that higher fps doesn't matter doesn't benefit anyone. I'm sorry I shouldn't be angry I forgot the "human eye can't see more than 24fps"🤣
@Gerardo Gonzalez the human eye doesn't see in fps so yes you can see the difference. Nobody has the same eyes so while you may not notice it there are still plenty of people out there that can enjoy it.
@@KenOtwell You want the 1% and 0.1% lows as high as possible as that contributes to the overall smoothness of the scene you're running. More consistent frame rate = smoother overall experience.
3090Ti that is bottlenecked by a 10th gen CPU.... will make it perform worse in benchmarks compared to other 30-series cards, as was showing in several graphs.
I like my 3080Ti. There's no reason to spend $900 more for barely a 10% improvement in performance.
Me: Buys RTX 3090 Ti*
My Kidney: What did it cost?
Me: I'm sorry little one
Something so funny about seeing the 3080 ti outperform the 3090 at every turn if only slightly
When I saw that leash, the first thing that came to mind was make a construction theme build! Have a tower crane on the right side of the case to hook the leash to so it's both functional and aesthetic.
I had a very similar idea to yours as well. An Erector Set came to mind with my idea lol
My thoughts exactly!
What sort of aesthetic?
@@seffer9772 a crane hoisting up the GPU instead of just a random cable hanging down.
@@Nareimooncatt is what kind of aesthetic?
imagine the size of 40X cards next year...
you gonna need a whole case just for the card alone
There will come a point when our GPU's are only available as external devices with their own cooler boxes
Entire tower that’s just one GPU, stacked with a smaller case with the rest…
@@furaznland their own themo-nuclear reactor to power them up
4080 and 4090 will sure be similar. 4060ti and 4070 is probably already overkill for gamers. Lets hope we can undervolt cards like 4070 below 300w.
No wonder Elon Musk's trying to get GPUs put into cars.
That's the only way you'll get to even use them soon enough!
I would love to see some sort of chain to hang that card on instead of that wire, would be cool in some builds.
I love how the whole comment section and vibe of the video is a ridiculously, passive aggressive, sense of impressed awe mixed with frustration
Imagine paying 2k for a halo product 6 months before its obsolete
When you're rich you don't have to imagine.
Call me when the 4070 arrives with half the power consumption and same performance levels. 🤷
Time to make a Lego themed PC with the crane
3080/3080TI with a 120hz+ 1440p Monitor would be absolute sweet spot. Thank you, Jay.
Definitely. Just I run 4k120hz, but performance is lower. If you don't play competitive games, 4k120hz is definitely better.
Release seems odd to me given the 4000 series are apparently right around the corner unless the point of this is to make the new 4000 series cards look like an amazing price-to-performance deal when they launch?
Yh most likely
They might even be making the price of the 3090 ti extra high for that very reason
Which would be smart since not that many people will buy one of these anyway
Probably not even enough to turn a profit when u consider the whole process to getting this card on the shelves
I think 3090 ti is a really good revision but it is still a revision and with 40 series around the corner even if you do not have a graphics card yet it would make more sense to wait.
Only people getting their hands on the 40 series cards are mfs who are real lucky and scalpers/bots. Wait now and we will be waiting for years.
Would be interested to see performance test with a sim like DCS.
Won't make much of difference really compared to other high end GPU's , DCS needs multicore CPU utilisation, that's where the performance issues are.
I get around 12% CPU utilisation on a 12900k 😞
@@Johnny641 I have a 5800x cpu but I am not sure what that performance will be gpu wise with anything above what I currently have. Not many benchmarks out there for DCS.
I think the hanger is cool I like it added security and support.
I would like to see a build with this card. Also would like to see Jay build a red themed computer using as many red colored parts as possible
Looks sexy but honestly I am perfectly happy with my 3070ti FE, it is my first high end tier card I've owned and water-cooled. I would get a 3080 but I'll do that later down the road because a 29% performance boost for 100$ seems more legit than 45% for 600+$ lol
Pretty much why I ended up returning my 3080 12 GB. Sure it was a beefy boy, requiring 3 8 pins, had an LCD screen, and had a massive cooler, but the $1500 cost wasn't worth the performance boost over my 3070 Ti which I got for less than $900 before tax a year ago when prices were even more insane. I'll wait for 40 series cards or 50 series cards at this point since realistically my 3070 Ti meets all of my requirements
i see no point in upgrading 3070ti to 3080 tbh.
My circumstance is my job pays relatively well so I got a 3090 1.5 years ago and I don't regret it. However it's not worth the effort of taking the loop apart just for that small percentage performance increase. I'll probably just wait for 4090. If I am due to upgrade, then I'll get this with a compatible waterblock.
vega 64 gang here... I wanna cry.
Same here. I’ve been enjoying my 3090 for the last 14 months. This is a tough market, because the nuts like us already have a 3090.
@@93836 Lol I don't consider myself a gamer but a hobbyist. I don't build PC to game, but game because I have already built a PC and need to give it something to load. Nuts maybe but there are people who spend way more money on their hobbies. At least this is how I justify it.
Can't wait for the RGB GPU support cables!
Oh boy, a GPU literally only designed for people who panic bought an RTX 3090 and a giant power supply from EVGA within the last 90 days to step up to for like 200 bucks because it's actually cheaper with the memory on the front than buying a water-cooled backplate for the rear memory.
Edit: or $437 to step up to the same high tier sku instead of having the option to go for the model that's only $80 more including $132 of sales tax, nevermind I'll just watercool the 3090.
Not even them, AFAIK you cannot step up within the same series, ie. 3080 to 3080TI or 3090 to 3090TI.
Edit: Ah, looks like they changed the rules for the 3090 to 3090TI, good to know.
@@rhyseinlanzer4617 I literally just got that price off of the step up page goofus
The card looks amazing and has some performance gains to back it up but not enough performance for the asking price. Also, it's quite close to the release of the 4000 series. There's just no way I'm going to spend $2k knowing the latest is right around the corner and will be better.
The boost clock of the 3090 FE is only 2% slower than the boost clock of the 3090 ti FE
@@mainframe1608 it's not the boost clock, this one also packs some extra cores and higher clocked vram.
In general it only seems to be 5-10 percent faster in gaming at best and its price is in no way worth that.
This card only exists to milk a screwed up gpu market for as much as Nvidia possibly can, because they've seen people buy 3090s for 2500 on eBay and they want in on that.... but they can't sink quite so low as to just hike the price of the 3090.
So they make a slightly improved 3090, call it a Ti, and hike the price. Boom, profit margins solved.
They did the same thing with the 3080Ti and the 3080 12 gig too.
Wow this is the first time I've seen a ridiculous piece of hardware I actually didn't want. Like...I think I'm good without the $2k msrp gpu that comes with a pulley and bottlenecks from every other part in the tower.
EVGA got me. It was in stock when I went on their website and bought one. Thing is a heater.
I can’t imagine anything heavier than GB Aorus 3090 Master…
2.2k, huh, still much less than I had to pay for 3090 in retail store.
Very glad I was able to get my 3090 founders for $1500. Just going to keep it until the 4090 comes out. This 3090 ti is definitely not worth upgrading to.
@@standarsh8056 like what? maybe like I live in country where retail prices for computer components are around that what you guys pay on ebay?
@@standarsh8056 of course I do, I would either have to insane or insanely reach to buy it just for gaming. I installed dual sided water block and running nicehash to offset cards price, so now its an investment. And of course I game alot on it, gaming is about the only thing that can help to stop thing about what's going on here in Ukraine, imo there is no actual point getting 3090 strictly for mining - there is not enough cooling for vram on backplate, at least before lhr.
@@XxViciousxX You got a 3090 and want to get the 4090 when that drops, why?
@@SerhiiYastrebov "investment"
lol
It's not an investment, it's a way to destroy your card. Here I was sitting on a 6 year old GPU wondering why people need that many GPU's, then I realized... people are idiots and burning up their cards the same way uber drivers run down their cars. Sure you're "making" money, but the returns are just not there unless you have an actual mining operation, you know a warehouse full of cards with on site power generation to offset the cost. Otherwise you're barely breaking even with your residential power costs and overpriced GPU's needing replacement almost once a year.
I believe AMD originally recommended a 1000W PSU for the Vega 64 LC edition, although that was probably more overkill than for this card.
Also the ASRock 6900xt OC formula. I love this card
Also Power Color with their Devil 13 290x2 / 390 x2 dual gpu card
You need to add another benchmark graph named 'COST.' One bar would read MSRP (whatever that stands for). The second bar would read ASAP. That doesn't stand for 'As Soon As Possible' but 'Actual Scalper Asking Price.' WOW! A great way to max out your credit card limit in one easy step.
Finally got a 3090. Had to wait on a list. Maybe in 10 years I'll be in the market for another upgrade, if I start saving now. They are out of their minds if they think this is a sustainable annual upgrade for most people.
Agreed and yes.... they are out of their minds.
in 10 years that thing will be outdated and prob wont even play modern titles at all by then , but 5-7 years sounds doable.
@@manuelmunguia616 for the asking price it better play modern games in ten years 🙄. IMHO It's not even about the time span as it is the performance to dollars . Lately its been a joke at best.
@@manuelmunguia616 Eh, I wouldn't say it will be _completely_ obsolete but it will probably be the bare minimum. Keep in mind, the current generation of consoles aren't even close to being this powerful and they usually stick around for 10ish years.
These days, with mining the way it is, you can make your money back instantly, especially cards that don't have the LHR limitation. All new gaming cards (produced after last May, I think) all have LHR baked in to prevent miners from depleting the inventory. The 3090/3090 Ti doesn't have that limitation.
I'm pretty sure the limitation is the optimization, back-end and/or the engines that are running rather than the card itself. Like you cannot push the raw performance that was not accounted or even optimized for in a game or old benchmarks.
Let's give it 3 months, when more people get this card and game engines/benchmarks and synthetic loads get adjusted to actually USE this cards potential and then see the results and comparisons ;)
I think this card will finally be able to run ultra settings 4k 60 fps
No there are still games which would not run like this.
For example cyberbug
@@i3l4ckskillzz79 bruh that game got pacthed its playable now.
It won’t be able to run all games at native 4k ultra at a stable 60FPS. The 3090 Ti is 10% faster than the 3090 so that’s definitely not a big enough performance increase run all games at 4k ultra at 60FPS. The 4090 might be able to get a stable 60FPS at native 4k ultra with RTX. The RTX 40 series are meant to be a huge performance increase over the 30 series.
And there are morons buying 5700xts and 4k 60 inch screens with them 🤦♂️
The relocation of the power input to the side of the card makes so much sense. Makes me wonder why more cards don’t have that !
Somehow there needs to be a "day to day" use, "headache or no headache" test suite. Like is the card better when moving through or around a heavy Blender file (or Maya, Unreal Engine, whatever), or video render times, definitely not crypto mining but maybe something like Folding At Home (dependent upon the task but as an average run a few of them) and even if the FPS on various games is measurable, at this point anecdotal evidence is equally valuable, like was it smoother, were the Elden Ring stutters less impactful, just how well CAN it run Crysis... Always important is NVidia driver technology stuff too, they seem to do a solid job improving things over time but they have Gane Ready AND Studio drivers now. So how does it perform at Creator tasks with a Studio Driver, Game tasks with a Game Driver?
Just some ideas. Love it Jay, Phil. Thanks!
I feel like this card should really be utilized with 4k almost exclusively in mind.
8k*
@@Stardomplay No card is even close to running top games in 8k at 120 or 144 frames on max settings consistently. So no I meant 4k.
@@GameKaps wtf? It can do 16k
@@Stardomplay No it absolutely cannot do 8k or 16k at 144 consistent fps in max settings, please do some research before saying something outlandish.