I am a 57-year-old just starting to play disc golf. I have had 2 heart attacks and double bypass surgery. I was very active throughout my life but basketball, tennis, and flag football are all behind me now. I needed something to get me outside and motivated and I chose disc golf after watching a Ricky Wysocki video that I happened to stumble upon. Watching your videos has turned a frustrated beginner into a semi-confident par guy who is considering entering a recreational tournament. Thank you for providing easy-to-understand content in a relatable way. I wish you two nothing but success.
You should totally enter the tournament! Sounds like you have a competitive spirit. Would be fun to feel the stress of tournament play for you I’m sure. Congratulations on your improvements
Practically my exact story except I’m 41 and haven’t had heart attacks quite yet but I’m sure they’re right around the corner if I don’t start eating right and if I don’t keep this new passion of disc golf. The exercise is half the reason I love being out there.
Here it is! I love those tennis guides for feet placement. I feel like it’s never been broken down like that before. Thank you for this. Also, looking pretty fresh there, josh.
I just discovered another breakthrough moment. The first step is always straight forward. After hearing that I immediately paused the video and tried it out without a disc. Wow! It was like getting that first step right it immediately set me up to get all of my momentum into the throw. Can't wait to try it out with a disk.
Great video! Thank you! i had lost my sidearm aim for a while. and today doing some field work discovered the lead step. Straight down the lines. Thanks again.
This is such a better explanation of what the x-step is than most videos out there. Now I can just share this video with my friends and beginners instead if trying to explain it myself.
I found your channel a couple of months ago and I love it. Josh, your teaching style for us visual learners and "regular" (non- super-flexible and and non-uber-athletic) people is terrific. And Mikey, your video style, drone shots, audio clarity, and production quality is phenomenal. You complement each other so well. Keep 'em comming. I wish you guys all the best. ( I hope I got both your names right).
Thanks, fellas. Another solid instructional video. I started working on a 5 step walk up after watching the last Patreon form review, so this is really helpful. I haven't been able to explain why, but for whatever reason I'm finding more consistency and throwing smoother with 5 steps vs an abbreviated 3. I started with the 3 step probably a year ago after watching a Lat64 video, telling myself I'd get that down then add the other 2 steps when I got comfortable with 3, but I never did haha. I have a bad habit of trying to think of like 8 different pieces of advice when throwing and my best guess is the extra x seconds I get from a 5 step walk up vs 3 step help to calm my mind a bit more before I get to the hit. Or not getting enough hip rotation with 3 steps. Need to record it.
As usual very well explained. I had the issue of taking a long x-step causing my hips to turn early and messing everything up. What was a huge factor for solving that were the first few steps, keeping them really short as well and with that setting a lower tempo so that I wouldn't rush into the x-step too much.
Total beginner here, started in September. I have watched…. So many hours of disc golf lessons since then. I watched three of your videos in the last day, and when I went to the local course today I shot my personal best score by 8 strokes, and threw tee shots nearly 50 ft longer on average. LIFE CHANGING advice dude, you’re a literal disc golf wizard
Great video as always. You’re a great teacher. I’m a beginner, and the more I learn proper form, the more I realize how bad my form is lol. I can’t wait for the next video on nose angle. Mine gets worse as I keep trying to improve my form. It’s frustrating to say the least. Pouring the coffee seems to be better than soupNATION for me because supination causes more yanks to the right for me personally. I just joined your patreon. 👍🏻
@@OverthrowDiscGolf thanks Josh! Yeah, I have been very hesitant not only because I'm a girl, but I'm also quite a bit older as well, lol (58yo). No problems at all with discord. I'm actually a gamer, so Discord was a snap. I may be older but I don't act old. :)
I’ve searched all over UA-cam for a simple step guide like this and was shocked that no one has posted one, thanks for this! I think if you should make the foot guide into a pdf file where people could enlarge and print it out. Thanks again for the content!
Very good quideline for walk up, so far my best distances on open field have been somewhere around +80 metres on stand still and when even trying to take some steps it feels like everything just falls and i dont gain anything from it. Need to practise a bit more. Your other videos have been very informative aswell, especially one with those disco moves about boxes.
Found this video the other day, absolutely incredible you guys have changed my game, the 5 step vs 3 step is working so much better. The little leap on the x is allowing me to do exactly what you said it would
Mann this dude just made me break my livingroom window wife gonna kill me😂😂 I'm over here doing the steps midrange in hand🙏 I got so much whip disc just flew out my hand😵 broken window but my back hand felt Sweet😂🔥💪
@@OverthrowDiscGolf for sure worth it! if it wasn't raining here in Nc I would be doing on the field so I blame the ☔😂 thanks for the sweet tips that was definitely a overthrow wish I could of seen how far it was gonna go😂😂
I'm guilty of being a wide X-stepper and guessing there is where I'm starting to loose control of my throwing angle. A huge thanks for bringing this up!
Excellent video! Super well done. Any chance we can get a backhand tutorial akin to the forehand tutorial? You guys started my disc golf game off with a strong forehand but I keep waiting for your backhand series to bring mine up to speed!
Great video as always. I've gained a lot from watching your videos because you explain things so clearly and btw risk management video is pure gold! One thing I want to ask you tho. I changed my run up style this spring because I wrecked my knees when I did too long of an x-step and turned around and kinda muscled the throw. Now I have good looking run up going sideways and smaller x-step. I noticed when I do max distance shot I kinda have to crow hop so I dont stumble on my feet but it tends to mess up my timing so I usually pull everything too right and hyzer. If I just walk up I get correct timing and almost everytime more distance even tho im going slower. Do you think I just have to work on everything going slow and try to build up to keep crow hop or should I try to Simon and just step further left to get more hip rotation and expect more power. Changing style is hard :D Thanks!
Changing style is tough. Eagle smashes without the hop so it is definitely possible and if that’s working well I wouldn’t change it just to change it. If you want to do it though, work up to it slowly. Nobody goes from fast and short to fast and long. It’s slow and short to fast and long
I start sideways, turn away from target and walk backwards and then pull the disc to my chest and then follow through. I don’t start forward find it’s not as accurate as staying on the line I start with. But need to work on falling into the shot as I’m pulling and releasing right as my plant foot hits and then follow though.
I saw his comment on the backward "Moonwalk" step, and thought "that is funny good thing I don't do that" *watched Slow motion video of my form proceeds to pick up my jaw when I saw that I was stepping backwards.
Great video. If possible in the future could you make a video to help throwing on the side of a hill, not just the uphill/downhill? I have an issue trying to throw flat when I’m on a slope, but the basket is on a different part of the hill that is flat. If that makes any sense to you lol. Thank you.
I’m definitely seeing improvement thanks to you guys. Now that I’m using my hips more, do you have and good warm up exercises or hip stretches you can share so my old hips don’t start to ache?
@@OverthrowDiscGolf thanks man. I’m so happy you guys are making this great content. I’d really love a tee pad / aim where you lie walk up video in the future. I feel like I’m still hit or miss with hitting my intended line. Any tips of how to aim and then how to properly walk up to your intended line would be wonderful. I was doing gap training today with putters and though I hit some, the misses were there when I was doing basically the same walk up. Thanks for the great videos. Please keep them coming
I have a question about the 2nd step. I find it easier for my second step to be perpendicular instead of 45degrees. is that cool or do you think that will mess with my timing or something?
Personally I would try to get it closer to the 45 to keep me from getting turned around too early and to model what most pros do. There could be exceptions to this though
Excellent video, thanks! My question is, what is your advice on how and where to hold the disc at the beginning of the walk-up, even before that first right step? Should you maintain an even level at the same height as the power pocket from start to end of the throw, like on the box drill? I still struggle with dipping/air bouncing even though my footwork has improved. I am not rounding nearly as much now by reaching out to 7/8 o'clock on the reach back, but the nose angle tends to be variable.
Great question. Gonna record a video on this soon. The simplest thing to do is to start the disc in the power pocket exactly like you mentioned; so over the left pec with elbow high like the box drill.
I'd love to hear your thoughts on a couple of points. 1) I get that the disc comes out at 10 o'clock, but I'm curious if you are extending at that point or if something else is causing the elbow to extend around that point. 2) the plant foot. I get the plant, but when I follow through, it is difficult for me to rotate on my heel (timing? flexibility?). I follow through forward with my weight over the leg, so I'm not sure how/when to lift the toes to rotate. Whenever I try on a golf swing, I just lose my balance. Seems just fine practice swinging, so curious on your thoughts.
1) The disc comes out because you accelerate it to 10:00 and straighten out the arm there. 2) hard to tell without video. Could be that your weight comes over the foot early and doesn’t let you rotate on your heel.
Switched to this shortened and perpendicular x step. Now I can’t reach back very far (or it feels real late and I rush it). At least I’m not muscling it as much. Still got nose angle issues...!
Practicing all of these movements to engage my hips has left my right hip muscles pretty sore. I’m a primarily RHBH college aged person, so I’m not concerned but is this normal for a beginner or should I be generating rotational power from my back leg or left arm more
So on the last step with your plant foot, does putting to much weight towards the heel cause pulling up and a loss of rotation from a more lateral move?
I wouldn’t say so. I think you’re going to have both the rotation and lateral move. You get in trouble when the lateral move is done in a way that brings your weight over the front leg.
Think I got most of the important info from the video - but I still can`t figure out what the red circle at the end does? James Conrad`s first foot placement after release to stop him from stumbling? Greatings from Germany...
what do you think is the issue if I consistently pull hyzers to the right (rhbh)? It feels like it might be a footwork thing, like how I'm aligning my feet in relation to my line
I have the same dreaded too much turn back during x step. Been focusing on that but find everything else suffers as i'm thinking about my feet. Appreciate this vids a ton!! Can you point me to a video or something that discusses hand position with regards to the disc during the pull through the power pocket? I know you don't want it on the front of the disc which is really common, but I can only seem to find videos on various ways to grip the disc, but not focusing on where hand/wrist should be during pull through power pocket.
So what exactly is your throwing line for the throw being demonstrated? You start facing perpindicular to the front of the tee pad and say you want to face your target. Before the x-step you've turned your hips/shoulders parallel to the target. When you make the x-step you slightly angle that foot back toward 7:30ish and then move parallel to the left with your plant foot in such a way that your hips/shoulders are now closed to the original target line, it looks like you're throwing to the left of your original starting line. Are you setting your release point in such a way that you're throwing slighlty to the right of the new hip/shoulder line you created with the x-step?
In my walkup I just drop the first forward step, simply to just have a smaller walkup as this can be convenient on some tees. Is that OK, or does it make a difference to incorporate the first step going forward with right leg instead of just skipping that starting with the left leg 45 degrees angle?
Man i lose distance when I do a walk up. My furthest throw stand still is about 104 meters. But with a run up i only get around 80-85 meters. Do you have any suggestions? And no i cant film myself my lens is cracked 😥 I love your videos one of the best instruction videos on UA-cam
Probably getting turned around. But I think you know the solution. You’re gonna have to get some film. On your phone. On a friends phone. Make a new friend and use their phone. You might have to get creative but there is no replacement for seeing yourself on video.
Could you give some more explanation on the release point being at 10 o’clock? I’ve heard and seen it, but I don’t understand how the disc goes from being released at 10 to go straight towards 12 o’clock? Do you just line up more to the right of your line (as a RHBH)? I definitely don’t think I am releasing the disc at 10 o’clock.
Honestly it’s a little bit of disc swinging around your pivot point after your hand gets to 10:00 and a little bit magic. You know how when you grip lock it and it goes way right if where you were aiming? That’s the right thing but late. You basically want to grip lock at 10:00
@@OverthrowDiscGolf Whoa, that makes so much sense! I have definitely had griplocks where they go way right but also farther than any of my other shots, lol! That brings up another question though, if I can hold onto the disc up until 12 o’clock in my throw right now, how do I get the disc to come out at 10. I’ve heard you shouldn’t really be releasing the disc, it should just fly out. Do I just adjust my grip pressure until it comes out on its own at 10? Thank you and sorry for all the questions!
@@dustinsquires3440 the reason it comes out at 12:00 currently is because you think it should. So you straighten your arm out at 12:00. So straighten your arm out at 10:00. Easier said than done. But you have to first understand that that’s where it needs to happen and then commit to the 10:00 release the same as you do with the 12:00
So I got 2 random questions. You obviously know exactly how to fix forms and know what to look for.. 1. How far can you throw? And 2. Do you believe with good tech anyone can hit 350-400 consistently? Thanks
good video! but I disagree that you need those first 2 steps. The xstep is all thats is needed, especially for a beginner. I think adding those additional steps for a beginner makes it much harder. I believe Tristan Tanner does just an xstep unless he's trying to go really long. Just my thoughts, bro. Good Stuff!
Yep. I put in the description that it could be augmented or abbreviated depending on distance. Paul was the person that clued me in to the first step years ago.
Who's the best dancer on tour?
Has to be Thomas Gilbert, hands down. Or maybe Calvin but only when he's sporting his 1970's disco fro.
@@sashasashasashasasha do we know that Thomas can dance?
Joel Freeman has everyone by a long shot
James for sure. Just look how that guy walks. You can tell he gets down.
I bet you P McB got some secret salsa dancing lessons
I am a 57-year-old just starting to play disc golf. I have had 2 heart attacks and double bypass surgery. I was very active throughout my life but basketball, tennis, and flag football are all behind me now. I needed something to get me outside and motivated and I chose disc golf after watching a Ricky Wysocki video that I happened to stumble upon. Watching your videos has turned a frustrated beginner into a semi-confident par guy who is considering entering a recreational tournament. Thank you for providing easy-to-understand content in a relatable way. I wish you two nothing but success.
You should totally enter the tournament! Sounds like you have a competitive spirit. Would be fun to feel the stress of tournament play for you I’m sure. Congratulations on your improvements
What about pickle ball @eldiablo1680
Practically my exact story except I’m 41 and haven’t had heart attacks quite yet but I’m sure they’re right around the corner if I don’t start eating right and if I don’t keep this new passion of disc golf. The exercise is half the reason I love being out there.
That moonwalk editing was on point! :D
A natural MJ
This was about ten times more helpful than all the other footwork videos I've seen combined, thanks!
Here it is! I love those tennis guides for feet placement. I feel like it’s never been broken down like that before. Thank you for this.
Also, looking pretty fresh there, josh.
Thanks. Gotta get the hair cut a couple times a year at least.
Incredible quality here! Can’t wait to work on these tips! 👏👏👏🍻
Quality videos everytime! Love how detailed you guys are and the background music is spot on!
Do you like this or the funky stuff better?
One of the best ones that you’ve done. And the previous content ain’t bad. Good job.
Thanks Patrick
Great Content! i've always thought the X step was so much wider, but your teaching and example makes so much more sense. Thank you for the break down!
I just discovered another breakthrough moment. The first step is always straight forward. After hearing that I immediately paused the video and tried it out without a disc. Wow! It was like getting that first step right it immediately set me up to get all of my momentum into the throw. Can't wait to try it out with a disk.
Great video! Thank you! i had lost my sidearm aim for a while. and today doing some field work discovered the lead step. Straight down the lines. Thanks again.
thank you so much for this quality coverage.
This is such a better explanation of what the x-step is than most videos out there. Now I can just share this video with my friends and beginners instead if trying to explain it myself.
Please do!
Friggin crow hop...beautiful! You drop a solid gold nugget in every video. Love it!
Hope gold prices are up
You guys are nuts, every tutorial is just spot on & clear. Good jobs guys.
Thanks Matt!
You are a fine gentelman and a scholar! Smart people like you make things easier for dumb people like me. Much appreciated 🙏
Incredible explanation. Thank you
Absolutely. Thanks for tuning in
Another great video. Thank you for breaking it down like this.
Absolutely. Thanks for watching
No doubt the best video for foot works .
I found your channel a couple of months ago and I love it. Josh, your teaching style for us visual learners and "regular" (non- super-flexible and and non-uber-athletic) people is terrific. And Mikey, your video style, drone shots, audio clarity, and production quality is phenomenal. You complement each other so well. Keep 'em comming. I wish you guys all the best. ( I hope I got both your names right).
You got them both correct. Thank you for such kind words. We appreciate it
such epic content. i reacted negatively to your last video so I felt the need to echo how amazing ya'll are.
Solid Gold Dancer doin' the X-Step. Great job brother man!
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Great video! Loved the drone shots.
Gotta have a drone
Great content. I appreciate it as I work on my form!
Absolutely
Thanks, fellas. Another solid instructional video. I started working on a 5 step walk up after watching the last Patreon form review, so this is really helpful. I haven't been able to explain why, but for whatever reason I'm finding more consistency and throwing smoother with 5 steps vs an abbreviated 3. I started with the 3 step probably a year ago after watching a Lat64 video, telling myself I'd get that down then add the other 2 steps when I got comfortable with 3, but I never did haha. I have a bad habit of trying to think of like 8 different pieces of advice when throwing and my best guess is the extra x seconds I get from a 5 step walk up vs 3 step help to calm my mind a bit more before I get to the hit. Or not getting enough hip rotation with 3 steps. Need to record it.
What’s interesting is that I have heard other people say the same thing. More consistency trying the 5 stepper. Interesting
As usual very well explained. I had the issue of taking a long x-step causing my hips to turn early and messing everything up. What was a huge factor for solving that were the first few steps, keeping them really short as well and with that setting a lower tempo so that I wouldn't rush into the x-step too much.
Thanks Micha. You always comment on our videos and I appreciate it.
Total beginner here, started in September. I have watched…. So many hours of disc golf lessons since then. I watched three of your videos in the last day, and when I went to the local course today I shot my personal best score by 8 strokes, and threw tee shots nearly 50 ft longer on average. LIFE CHANGING advice dude, you’re a literal disc golf wizard
Congrats!
Thanks for the great video
Great video as always. You’re a great teacher. I’m a beginner, and the more I learn proper form, the more I realize how bad my form is lol. I can’t wait for the next video on nose angle. Mine gets worse as I keep trying to improve my form. It’s frustrating to say the least. Pouring the coffee seems to be better than soupNATION for me because supination causes more yanks to the right for me personally. I just joined your patreon. 👍🏻
Awesome! The first laaaadddy on our discord. Let me know if you have any issues signing into discord from Patreon.
@@OverthrowDiscGolf thanks Josh! Yeah, I have been very hesitant not only because I'm a girl, but I'm also quite a bit older as well, lol (58yo). No problems at all with discord. I'm actually a gamer, so Discord was a snap. I may be older but I don't act old. :)
This video is totally what I needed
Good deal
I’ve searched all over UA-cam for a simple step guide like this and was shocked that no one has posted one, thanks for this! I think if you should make the foot guide into a pdf file where people could enlarge and print it out. Thanks again for the content!
Yep. We have actually thought about that. Need to make it happen.
Well that was handy. Just checked some of your previous videos and saw this posted 45 seconds ago 😄
Noice!
Very good quideline for walk up, so far my best distances on open field have been somewhere around +80 metres on stand still and when even trying to take some steps it feels like everything just falls and i dont gain anything from it. Need to practise a bit more. Your other videos have been very informative aswell, especially one with those disco moves about boxes.
That’s suuuper common. Most people get turned around or their weight gets out ahead of them when they start adding the walk up.
This video changed my life.
Found this video the other day, absolutely incredible you guys have changed my game, the 5 step vs 3 step is working so much better. The little leap on the x is allowing me to do exactly what you said it would
Glad it is working out for you!
Mann this dude just made me break my livingroom window wife gonna kill me😂😂 I'm over here doing the steps midrange in hand🙏 I got so much whip disc just flew out my hand😵 broken window but my back hand felt Sweet😂🔥💪
Please say you’re joking
I got pix to prove it😂😂 told my wife before she got home!!! She said sheesh you can't stop a man from throwing his disc😂😂
@@kramersanders21 worth it. Lol
@@OverthrowDiscGolf for sure worth it! if it wasn't raining here in Nc I would be doing on the field so I blame the ☔😂 thanks for the sweet tips that was definitely a overthrow wish I could of seen how far it was gonna go😂😂
@@kramersanders21 probably 550’
I'm guilty of being a wide X-stepper and guessing there is where I'm starting to loose control of my throwing angle. A huge thanks for bringing this up!
Don't worry, about 90% of disc golfers are.
Excellent video! Super well done. Any chance we can get a backhand tutorial akin to the forehand tutorial? You guys started my disc golf game off with a strong forehand but I keep waiting for your backhand series to bring mine up to speed!
We hope to someday. We’re working through our list of ideas but alas, time is our nemesis once again
Great video as always. I've gained a lot from watching your videos because you explain things so clearly and btw risk management video is pure gold!
One thing I want to ask you tho. I changed my run up style this spring because I wrecked my knees when I did too long of an x-step and turned around and kinda muscled the throw. Now I have good looking run up going sideways and smaller x-step. I noticed when I do max distance shot I kinda have to crow hop so I dont stumble on my feet but it tends to mess up my timing so I usually pull everything too right and hyzer. If I just walk up I get correct timing and almost everytime more distance even tho im going slower. Do you think I just have to work on everything going slow and try to build up to keep crow hop or should I try to Simon and just step further left to get more hip rotation and expect more power. Changing style is hard :D Thanks!
Changing style is tough. Eagle smashes without the hop so it is definitely possible and if that’s working well I wouldn’t change it just to change it. If you want to do it though, work up to it slowly. Nobody goes from fast and short to fast and long. It’s slow and short to fast and long
I start sideways, turn away from target and walk backwards and then pull the disc to my chest and then follow through. I don’t start forward find it’s not as accurate as staying on the line I start with. But need to work on falling into the shot as I’m pulling and releasing right as my plant foot hits and then follow though.
I saw his comment on the backward "Moonwalk" step, and thought "that is funny good thing I don't do that"
*watched Slow motion video of my form
proceeds to pick up my jaw when I saw that I was stepping backwards.
Great video. If possible in the future could you make a video to help throwing on the side of a hill, not just the uphill/downhill? I have an issue trying to throw flat when I’m on a slope, but the basket is on a different part of the hill that is flat. If that makes any sense to you lol. Thank you.
Yep. That’s tough. I’ll work on it
I’m definitely seeing improvement thanks to you guys. Now that I’m using my hips more, do you have and good warm up exercises or hip stretches you can share so my old hips don’t start to ache?
Good question. I usually do tennis warm ups before legit field work. Dynamic, not static stretches pre workout.
@@OverthrowDiscGolf thanks man. I’m so happy you guys are making this great content. I’d really love a tee pad / aim where you lie walk up video in the future. I feel like I’m still hit or miss with hitting my intended line. Any tips of how to aim and then how to properly walk up to your intended line would be wonderful. I was doing gap training today with putters and though I hit some, the misses were there when I was doing basically the same walk up. Thanks for the great videos. Please keep them coming
@@steveackerman5066 absolutely. Great idea
I have a question about the 2nd step. I find it easier for my second step to be perpendicular instead of 45degrees. is that cool or do you think that will mess with my timing or something?
Personally I would try to get it closer to the 45 to keep me from getting turned around too early and to model what most pros do. There could be exceptions to this though
Excellent video, thanks! My question is, what is your advice on how and where to hold the disc at the beginning of the walk-up, even before that first right step? Should you maintain an even level at the same height as the power pocket from start to end of the throw, like on the box drill? I still struggle with dipping/air bouncing even though my footwork has improved. I am not rounding nearly as much now by reaching out to 7/8 o'clock on the reach back, but the nose angle tends to be variable.
Great question. Gonna record a video on this soon. The simplest thing to do is to start the disc in the power pocket exactly like you mentioned; so over the left pec with elbow high like the box drill.
@@OverthrowDiscGolf Thanks so much! Look forward to seeing that video. Keep the tips coming, you're an awesome coach.
@@tfowler88 absolutely brotha
Now all’s we need is a soup video
Filming it today
I'd love to hear your thoughts on a couple of points. 1) I get that the disc comes out at 10 o'clock, but I'm curious if you are extending at that point or if something else is causing the elbow to extend around that point. 2) the plant foot. I get the plant, but when I follow through, it is difficult for me to rotate on my heel (timing? flexibility?). I follow through forward with my weight over the leg, so I'm not sure how/when to lift the toes to rotate. Whenever I try on a golf swing, I just lose my balance. Seems just fine practice swinging, so curious on your thoughts.
1) The disc comes out because you accelerate it to 10:00 and straighten out the arm there.
2) hard to tell without video. Could be that your weight comes over the foot early and doesn’t let you rotate on your heel.
@@OverthrowDiscGolf Thanks for the response :)
Switched to this shortened and perpendicular x step. Now I can’t reach back very far (or it feels real late and I rush it). At least I’m not muscling it as much. Still got nose angle issues...!
No need to reach back far. As long as you get coiled it’ll work. Check out some European guys like Seppo for reference. Nose angle is the next video!
@@OverthrowDiscGolf looking forward to it. I got 600ft of power trapped in 325ft of form
@@OverthrowDiscGolf Emerson Keith also in the no reach-back club
Practicing all of these movements to engage my hips has left my right hip muscles pretty sore. I’m a primarily RHBH college aged person, so I’m not concerned but is this normal for a beginner or should I be generating rotational power from my back leg or left arm more
Probably more accurate to think about the left side generating it. But different images for different people. You could also be sore from overuse.
So on the last step with your plant foot, does putting to much weight towards the heel cause pulling up and a loss of rotation from a more lateral move?
I wouldn’t say so. I think you’re going to have both the rotation and lateral move. You get in trouble when the lateral move is done in a way that brings your weight over the front leg.
Think I got most of the important info from the video - but I still can`t figure out what the red circle at the end does? James Conrad`s first foot placement after release to stop him from stumbling? Greatings from Germany...
I should have mentioned it. The red dot is where the disc is released. Just a visual so you can see how it lines up with the hips
what do you think is the issue if I consistently pull hyzers to the right (rhbh)? It feels like it might be a footwork thing, like how I'm aligning my feet in relation to my line
Can’t know for sure without looking at it. Could be a footwork thing. Could be upper body related n
I have the same dreaded too much turn back during x step. Been focusing on that but find everything else suffers as i'm thinking about my feet. Appreciate this vids a ton!!
Can you point me to a video or something that discusses hand position with regards to the disc during the pull through the power pocket? I know you don't want it on the front of the disc which is really common, but I can only seem to find videos on various ways to grip the disc, but not focusing on where hand/wrist should be during pull through power pocket.
If your chest is 6:00 your hand should be holding the disc somewhere between 10:00-12:00. Probably 11:00 would be average.
@@OverthrowDiscGolf Thanks! This is further around than I'd expected. This should generate more spin! Adding to my long list of things to work on.
So what exactly is your throwing line for the throw being demonstrated? You start facing perpindicular to the front of the tee pad and say you want to face your target. Before the x-step you've turned your hips/shoulders parallel to the target. When you make the x-step you slightly angle that foot back toward 7:30ish and then move parallel to the left with your plant foot in such a way that your hips/shoulders are now closed to the original target line, it looks like you're throwing to the left of your original starting line. Are you setting your release point in such a way that you're throwing slighlty to the right of the new hip/shoulder line you created with the x-step?
In my walkup I just drop the first forward step, simply to just have a smaller walkup as this can be convenient on some tees. Is that OK, or does it make a difference to incorporate the first step going forward with right leg instead of just skipping that starting with the left leg 45 degrees angle?
It’s fine. Lots of people drop it
Greatness. Would you consider a knee putt tutorial?
Maybe down the road. I’ve got a complicated relationship with putting at the moment so I’m hesitant. Haha
Man i lose distance when I do a walk up. My furthest throw stand still is about 104 meters. But with a run up i only get around 80-85 meters. Do you have any suggestions? And no i cant film myself my lens is cracked 😥
I love your videos one of the best instruction videos on UA-cam
Probably getting turned around. But I think you know the solution. You’re gonna have to get some film. On your phone. On a friends phone. Make a new friend and use their phone. You might have to get creative but there is no replacement for seeing yourself on video.
That moonwalk had me dead. 😭
Haha. You like that, huh?
Could you give some more explanation on the release point being at 10 o’clock? I’ve heard and seen it, but I don’t understand how the disc goes from being released at 10 to go straight towards 12 o’clock? Do you just line up more to the right of your line (as a RHBH)? I definitely don’t think I am releasing the disc at 10 o’clock.
Honestly it’s a little bit of disc swinging around your pivot point after your hand gets to 10:00 and a little bit magic. You know how when you grip lock it and it goes way right if where you were aiming? That’s the right thing but late. You basically want to grip lock at 10:00
@@OverthrowDiscGolf Whoa, that makes so much sense! I have definitely had griplocks where they go way right but also farther than any of my other shots, lol! That brings up another question though, if I can hold onto the disc up until 12 o’clock in my throw right now, how do I get the disc to come out at 10. I’ve heard you shouldn’t really be releasing the disc, it should just fly out. Do I just adjust my grip pressure until it comes out on its own at 10? Thank you and sorry for all the questions!
@@dustinsquires3440 the reason it comes out at 12:00 currently is because you think it should. So you straighten your arm out at 12:00.
So straighten your arm out at 10:00. Easier said than done. But you have to first understand that that’s where it needs to happen and then commit to the 10:00 release the same as you do with the 12:00
So I got 2 random questions. You obviously know exactly how to fix forms and know what to look for.. 1. How far can you throw? And 2. Do you believe with good tech anyone can hit 350-400 consistently? Thanks
How important do you suspect strength training is for a sport like disc golf?
Resistance training for speed will be standard for pros in a few years if I had to guess. Mobility important for all of course.
Holy crap! Just realized you’re local to my area!?! Do you offer 1 on 1 coaching???
Check the patreon link
We do. It is as Kevin has written
Measure your throw - The boys wanna know - And what drone shot? 🤪
Lemme find a steep cliff
How far do you throw? No bs, straight up max d backhand brother?
Honestly not sure as I don’t measure. Feel free to the “How far do you throw?” Chapter in the Twirly Bird video and judge for yourself.
good video! but I disagree that you need those first 2 steps. The xstep is all thats is needed, especially for a beginner. I think adding those additional steps for a beginner makes it much harder. I believe Tristan Tanner does just an xstep unless he's trying to go really long. Just my thoughts, bro. Good Stuff!
Yep. I put in the description that it could be augmented or abbreviated depending on distance. Paul was the person that clued me in to the first step years ago.
I would like to travel to you and do one on one I’m not good at internet training please help
We’re in Lynchburg Virginia. If you want to make a trip up hit us up on instagram
@@OverthrowDiscGolf I’m sorry I’m old what’s instagrams
After all of that moonwalking, I think you need some soup. 😊👍
Just finished recording it
Simon Lizotte specifically doesn’t like the crow hop in his form reviews because it tends to get a little out of control
I like it when it’s pulled off well.
@@OverthrowDiscGolf agreed, Conrad does it exclusively and it works for him. It’s interesting how it works for some and not others.
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