Transmission Fluid Facts
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- Transmission fluids are the most sophisticated and complex fluids in your automobile. Get the facts on how these fluids work and lubricate your transmission. See why synthetic ATF is the only way to go.
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I used not believe in amsoil, but after watching a couple of your videos I really believe in it. I would trust someone that says our company cannot possibly make a "one size fits all" transmission fluid (and can explain why), than someone that say they can do it. This is the real world people!
I find it interesting that he said that, yet Amsoil makes a multi-vehicle ATF still.
@@spiralnapkin you know after looking into it more I noticed the same thing!
@@spiralnapkin From what I deduct, they make 2 types of ATF, one for the older vehicles, another to cover the newer specs (like Toyota WS).
Correct. We do make 2 types of ATF. However, not every vehicle is listed or meet their specs. We spend so much on R and D, it isnt funny. Amsoil tests, tests and tests. Our ATF is not universal.
Hi guys if I might add to the discussion… you are right Amsoil makes a multi vehicle fluid but they never Claim that it meets all specifications. The specs that it does meet are clearly listed and then There is the low viscosity amsoil transmission fluid that meets Toyota WS and many of the other low viscosity Specifications. There is also a racing Transmission fluid that meets Ford type F . And also an amsoil CVT fluid .
Guy buys a new $60k truck...gets mad at the $50 oil change every 5k miles...gets even more upset at 120k when they recommend a $200 transmission service...skips the $200 transmission service, that's too expensive....150k transmission fails, and wants to sue the automaker because they sold him a junk pickup truck with a terrible transmission...but they'll spend $5,000 in fuel a year chasing a football team around the country to go to all their games, but that $200 transmission service well that's just too expensive, and what do you mean I should have changed it at 30k miles the book and dealer says it don't need changed till well over 100k...well sure they want you back on the lot in 10 years or sooner buying another vehicle as a result of the neglected maintenance.
Its got "lifetime" fluid in it...yeah sure it does, now change it.
William, tell us what you really think! Lol
William Todd see my last post,,,American way,,,
I find it very frustrating now because even the vehicle manufacturers are emphasizing the will not honor there 10 year 100,000 mile warranty if they find out the fluid that was installed doesn’t meet the specific spec that they provide you in the vehicles manual. Forcing you to buy there overpriced spec fluid. God forbid you buy a fluid that actually meets and exceeds there’s and you end up having a mechanical issue that should be covered because of a inferior part and they void your warranty. Now you end up having to pay for a repair they should have covered. Essentially we’re forced to buy there over priced fluid at least until the warranty runs out. So I will be putting there fluid in my truck at the severe service interval or less till my warranty runs out. After that by then I should be educated enough to decide what fluid manufacturer product I will put in it.
I believe they want throw away cars now, just like toasters. The days of manufacturers priding themselves on producing a car that goes 300-500,000 miles is over. Not to mention with the help of the CAFE standards.
@@LittleJimmyNorton My 88 F250 has 760k on it, no need to throw it away, all those are highway/towing miles, no mechanical issues at all. It all depends on how well you take care of stuff.
Great video Dan one of the best I've seen. We'll done. Thank you, Randy.
Amazon and Apple are now worth a trillion dollars. This video and series of are worth 10 trillion.
Absolutely, even car manufacturers won’t tell you about it.
Great video thank you
Still valid today. Thanks, Dan
So what should I put on my 2015 lexus is 350 with 80k miles if I want to put synthetic ATF, it currently has Toyota ATF WS. Thank you for a great video.
Great lecture, thank you very much sir
Great lecture. Thanks. I want it playing in my waiting room when the customers walk in. Teach them to ask questions.
And buy all your upsells xD
great sale of Amsoil transmission fluid!! I'm sold!
The newest transmissions from GM/Ford are a 9 speed automatic, and a 10 speed manual. Transmission fluid has to lubricate, act as a hydrostatic drive fluid, a lubricant, a friction modifier, and a coolant. Then I also have "transfer case fluid", too! I use Valvoline, synthetic. I have for YEARS! DEX 6 full synthetic!!! Transfer case fluid, I went with Delco. It's grape scented now! I swear to god, it's blue, it's oily and it smells like grape soda pop.
Switch to Amsoil.
i know this is old but there is more. It's also has to not foam, it has to handle temp changes as the seasons change, it also has to clean (detergents). It's quite complex.
Mr. Dan thanks for amazing lecture
What do you think about flushing the transmission fluid with flushing machine?
Is it safe or better than drain and fill?
I love...this...stuff.
after ATF oil change, do I need to do (putting in) gears task or just let the car run for 10-15 min on its own and AT oil will flow into chambers?
Which ATF should I use in my 1997 with a 4L80E and 130k mi.? No service history. The website says either the OE Domestic and Imported or the Sig. Series Fuel Efficient. But, in looking at the 2 page data sheet it shows the Multi-Vehicle for Dex III. I’m aware of the TSB to use VI in place of III, but it makes me a little nervous with something that old.
A mechanic buddy at an airline bought a new 02 TRD Tacoma. He started using synthetic transmission fluid. Toyota didn't recommend any synthetic fluid for the Tacoma so he changed back. I am trying to find out what my 2000 Montero sport takes .
Can i use honda genuine ATF oil into Toyota MMT transmission?
Love it. Lol you're suppose to change that? Ive heard that from people. I change fluids more then I change my socks on or before it should be done and always with quality chemicals. I've been looked at like a have 5 heads when I try to tell people how important it is. Have a hotrod friend that use to say "oil is oil" well 3 engines later he started listening to me
Oil changes are far cheaper than engines, and doing the fluid changes properly and in the correct intervals will let your drivetrain live a long life.
Matt Parker in my opinion, the oil change recommendation is more about environmental concerns than making your vehicle last. Look at the pollution and the rate we are going through our natural resources. I think they are stretching it to meet epa standards
😂 three engines later
On my 2012 Jeep Liberty sport changing fluid in transmission what is the brand and type of fluid please let me know and brand thank you
I’ve recently heard that most modern ATF types are Dexron VI/Mercon LV copies. Aisin sells a fluid that claims compatibility in both Matic-S Nissan transmissions and Mercon V transmissions. I thought this was strange when I first saw it. I was looking for fluid for my Xterra and came across this stuff. Got me thinking that Matic-S and Mercon V are similar if not the same. I’ve also seen bottles of Dexron VI say that it’s compatible with Toyota WS. Are these new low-viscosity fluids just copies of each other? I’ve used Valvoline MaxLife and it does well, but I’m considering the Amsoil Fuel-Efficient signature series since that line claims compatibility in fewer, but newer transmissions. I am skeptical that Valvoline’s 95% of vehicle compatibility.
Also, what is the main difference between Amsoil’s signature series and OE series for transmission fluid? Are they both 100% synthetic? Is one superior to the other? The $6 difference between these two has me asking such questions 😂
Can I use ATF to replace power steering fluid?
Just curious.; My Buick fluid is Cherry red . clean and no burnt smell, But kinda thick in feel . my Question is
automatic transmission fluid, viscosity, Dextron VI by GM just how thick is this type fluid when feeling it with fingers on the dipstick in comparison to a motor oils weight should it be something like a 10 weight or 20 weight motor oil by feel?
If your good enough to rate viscosity by your fingers you are really good. Transmission fluid is just below a 20 weight and in some cases about a 10 weight.
Dan, I don't know jack about cars but am trying to learn--doing my own oil changes and want to start doing my Transmission fluid changes. So you don't recommend Universal Transmssion fluids (guessing largely in reference to Valvoline ML?). Anyhow, I see Amsoil makes a universal Transmission fluid. is the Amsoil universal ok to use in a Toyota?
Amsoil does not make a Universal ATF, they do make a Multivehicle ATF. The fuel efficient low viscosity ATF meets the Toyota WS spec for ATF. Amsoil makes several ATFs to meet the various manufacturers spec's. Multivehicle ATF meets about 55% of vehicles where the Fuel Efficient lower viscosity meets about 35% of vehicles so about 10 is for Foreign cars that Amsoil has no equivalent. I can send you specific tech info if you email me at danwatson@thelubepage.com
Dear Sir I have been told that I shouldn’t use any kind of CVT FLUID but what is specified by Toyota which is FE fluid, but along with my experience with Amsoil , every thing was great to me, in your opinion using Amsoil CVT fluid in Corolla CVT transmission will expose me to issue with this kind of transmission?
so I have a 07 prius that has a cvt transmission and on the fill plug it takes toyota world standard, and you are saying that it don't do the job....what should i put in it? i am currently at 200,000 miles and have chaged it 3 times with toyota ws fluid.
Emily Martin Hybrid's typically don't have the CVT transmission used in non-hybrid cars. Toyota's hybrids are more like a set a differentials and two electric motors that are acting as the 'variable transmission'. Confirm this of course for your particular year. You can't go wrong with what's specified in the manual. :)
+Emily Martin stay with the Toyota Fluid !!
Many thanks 🥰
Can amsoil ATF fuel efficient replace efficiently Honda OEM DW1 on 2013 Honda civic transmission??
Yes, The Amsoil ATL (Fuel Efficient ATF) is a direct replacement for Honda DW 1 fluid.
I have actually mixed them in 3x drain fill on my 2014 crv and it solved the torque convetor shudder
Any Additive would be another issue, in terms of Viscosity...
Lucas for example is like all their other Products..... Which means it is very thick...
An Amsoil guy is saying that a universal ATF isn't actually universal, yet Amsoil makes a multi-vehicle ATF.
Amsoil does not make a Universal ATF, they make one product labeled Multi-vehicle ATF. The Multi-Vehicle applies to about 55% of applications. Another ATF is labeled Fuel Efficient ATF and it applies to the other 35% of the applications. The remaining 10% is for various Foreign ATF spec's that Amsoil has no equivalent. Additionally, Amsoil has a line of Heavy Duty Commercial fluids labeled Torque Drive trans fluid and this is for mostly heavy duty Allison applications in addition in the HD fluids Amsoil offers Powershift Transmission fluids. And last but not least Amsoil offers a Racing ATF which also meets the Ford Type F fluid. So, yes you can make a fluid that truly meets several spec's but not all. The Multi-vehicle fluid does in fact meet the largest number of applications but no single fluid can meet the myriad of spec's in the market place.
Hey Dan I have a 2017 ram 1500 zf transmission, can I use amsoil instead of the oem 50$ a quart for my transmission...about to do my 90 thousand miles transmission fluid change...please let me know
Amsoil ATL Fuel Efficient Low Viscosity trans fluid is the correct fluid for the sf trans.
Dan, What are your thoughts on B&G Trans service and their trans fluid?
I have a 05 accord 4cylinder, the engine has 191,000 miles on the engine,what is the recommended trans fluid. I do lots of stop and go driving.
Have you serviced the transmission during the 191,000 miles? Amsoil Multi-vehicle trans fluid is the correct fluid but it is important to know if you are doing the service for the first time.
@@thelubepage i got the car in december last year, i dont know when last it was done, so i want to use the amsoil in it. i was told i should do a 2 drain procedure.
Changing trans fluid in high mileage situations takes considerable care and planning. First check the fluid by pulling the dipstick and dripping some fluid on a plain white napkin. Look for color and particulate deposits. If the color is still pink and no debris is observed then proceed. Next you need to drop the trans pan and observe the bottom of the pan. If you see a wax buildup in the bottom of the pan this mean the fluid was in service well beyond its service life and you may have some problems ahead. Clean all residue from the pan and install a new internal filter. If you found a wax buildup then use standard non synthetic ATF to refill the trans after you reinstall the Pan. Run the trans for at least 2000 miles and then drain and refill with more conventional ATF. Run the trans for 5,000 miles and drain and fill one more time this time with Amsoil ATF. If you found a clean pan then install a new filter and install the pan and fill with Amsoil ATF, run for 15,000 miles and drain and fill again. Now go 30,000 miles and drain again and refill with amsoil and go 60,000 miles.
@@thelubepage the tranny jus have a drain plug, not sure if it has a pan.
@@fyahwerks Check closely, is this an automatic trans? If it is an automatic it should have a pan.
So if a product saids "it meets....." then we're good?
Can I use Amsoil atf on my GM 2007 H3 Hummer 3.7 atf
Yes you can. You would use the ATL version which is Dexron VI rated.
U drive a Hummer. Lol. You're screwed
Can i use Amsoil ATF in my Honda accord 2008 v6 thay use ATF Z-1?
No. Honda's own ATF has Honda specific additives.
@@TrailVapor
Amsoil chemical properties and additives exceeds honda OEM DW1 additives..
Is Honda OEM DW1 fully synthetic like amsoil ? honda said that it contains a petroleum oils on it's label
sounds like he speaks the truth
he sure speaks his own sided truth!
No fluid is as compatible as the short lived OEM ATF.
AmsOil is all right but they should seriously get real with the price chart and distribution channel
@@glasser2819 Just keep hating. Quit being brainwashed by the big oil companies. We spend so much time and effort learning about oil and the garbage the big companies put out for everyday consumer. Ppl are so brainwahsed by the commercials. Amsoil: enriches rhe lives of individuals, the American way, instead of big companies. And our stuff really, really works.
Are all brands of ATF+4 the same? I've been reading the license agreement with Chrysler specifies the exact formulation in order to carry the +4 designation.
I know this is old, but you simply need to look for the ATF+4 on the bottle, then the license #. Chrysler licenses their atf fluids through a variety of companies. SuperTech from WalMart carries it for about $5 per qrt.
@@mitch1847 8
Amsoil: As long as it lists the spec on the bottle, it will work just fine as a replacement.
can u use type f in a 2014 ford fusion se
NO! 2014 Fusion requires Ford Mercon LV rated fluid. The shifting characteristics of Type F are significantly different than the LV fluid.
Im about to do the poor mans drain on my '12 Titan, 50K on it. No problem with mixing the amsoil with the stock fluid? Will drain it again next oil change.
I have the same question.
Whenever doing a poor mans drain use what it calls for or what's already in it. Just wait for a complete flush to add the $$$ stuff. Considering most pan drops are 4-6 quarts but flushes are 12-18
After watching ask your videos, hours worth, I'll contacting an amsoil rep to get all the garbage lube out of everything on my 04 duramax/allison
I'd love to have your business, give me a chance danwatson@thelubepage.com
go see scotty kilmer he is 100 percent honest
Sure he is ,,Mr click bait hack
So what brand of multi-vehicle ATF is he referring to as garbage (one armed bandit)?
Not sure but this one seems to meet the profile...
atpautomotive.com/at216
All fleet use multi atf with nonissue this dude talks to much
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Why is Amsoil ATF so expensive?what is so special in Amsoil ATF?
Amsoil ATF is a chemical based synthetic consisting of mainly Poly-Alpha-Olefins (PAO). These synthetic hydrocarbons are expensive and the complex additive package has to be of the highest quality to insure extremely long lived performance. This ATF is worth every penny, especially when you are operating under heavy loads and high trans temperature. Transmissions are very expensive and anything you can do to enhance protection is very cost effective.
@@thelubepage thank you Dan for answering questions
@@thelubepage Kindly ❤️
Could you send me any trusted approved links or official links shows that amsoil ATF is chemical based PAO!!!
Many thanks in advance.
aminammar44@gmail.com
Meh I use valvoline max life atf, no problems. I'd use amsoil it wasn't for the fact that 1 quart is close to a gallon of max life in cost. Why change when it's 3x cheaper and has a proven track record especially with my personal experience of using it for thousands of miles.
Of course you can use Valvoline Max life. It must be changed at normal recommended intervals of (around 30,000 miles). Amsoil synthetic is a superior product which you can use for 100,000 miles so in the long run it won't cost anymore and the margin to breakdown is much higher with Amsoil. You may never need the additional protection but if you tow or haul heavy loads your transmission may be running close to the temperature limit of the Valvoline.
@@thelubepage I also throw in some lube guard red and with a good transmission cooler there's no need to change at 30K, as long as the fluid keeps from getting fried it usually stays good. GM dextron IV says it's good for 100K to, but I don't trust that shit to go to 100K especially with a stock cooler.
@@Adamz678 Temperature is the great killer of petroleum trans fluid. Today's transmissions run so hot it is wise to use a high quality synthetic. There are lots of synthetic impostors so you have to find a real synthetic.
@@thelubepage lube gaurd drops temperatures down.
@@andrewthetool It is confusing info but I will try to muddle through the recommendations. Mfgs are many times recommending fill for life trans intervals. Be advised that no lube / oil company will give such an open ended recommendation. Amsoil is good for about 3 times the normal drain for transmissions in normal service which works out to be ~100,000 miles. In severe service 60,000 to 70,000 miles is recommended. So how do you state a simple drain interval when the Mfg is saying fill for life. I think it should be the 100,000 (70,000 Severe Duty) or longer if recommended by the Mfg. May not help but that's the truth.
sounds like a salesma
n,big time
No universal fluids. Always use fluids that meet the specifications of your production. Sometimes you have to research.
Valvoline now makes a universal fluid, & it's a full synthetic , so in a transmission with gears & clutch packs why is it half the price of the dealer brand?Especially when Kia's fluid, (just one example ), is only semi synthetic., (I will continue to wonder , is that half & half ?,or %20 synthetic & %80 conventional, Or?) I can't imagine any conventional oil staying exactly in grade both hot & cold.So is Honda 's Z1 been discontinued because their new fluid DW1 is synthetic? We all know, (or should ) that synthetic fluid stays in grade over a higher temperature range than conventional fluid.Guess I'll have to buy a bottle from Honda ..I hope in canada our standards are enforced better than in some other places.Suitable for use , should read sueable for use !
No names mentioned... But it seems to me that any ATF that claims to meet Toyota ATF-WS specs AND the Mopar specs mentioned fits the profile of an ATF that should be avoided.
atpautomotive.com/at216
Is this college class? He looks like my college teacher
the strange part of this speech is that amsoil makes a product called MULTI VEHICLE ATF... which claims the exact same thing that he is saying makes the other product misleading.
Jon, Amsoil does make a product called Multi Vehicle ATF it is not labeled a Universal ATF. Additionally, Amsoil makes several other ATF products and on each the
specific manufacturer's specifications are listed. Amsoil maybe should have changed the name but the specifications are there to differentiate the various trans fluids
offered. With ATF it is always good to make sure you match up with the Manufacturer's spec regardless of whose ATF you choose to use. For example, if GM calls for
Dexron VI Then you should verify the ATF you are purchasing list Dexron VI.
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So I guess the Amsoil ATF doesn't work to replace both Toyota ATF-WS and Mopar ATF+4
So which one does it work for or is there more than one Amsoil ATF product?
There is more than one Amsoil product.
Amsoil doesn’t carry the licensing on fca atf+4. Don’t put it in your fca vehicle.
Amsoil Multi-Vehicle ATF meets the Chrysler ATF+4 specifications.
@@thelubepage why won’t a multi million dollar company spend the money and get it tested and certified ?
The American way. Take advantage, rip off, plausible deniability,,, remember that term.
So you are a hater? Really productive. Amsoil is the real Mccoy
Constant Velocity Transmission??.... LOL!.
ALL transmissions are "constant velocity"!!
We're in the presence of genius, maybe a little sharing of your knowledge could help the less intelligent.
Dan Watson Continuously Variable Transmission.
Dan Watson Constant velocity is what CV stands for regarding CV axles and CV joints. They are called constant velocity because they maintain identical velocity on both ends of the axle the end that connects to the transmission and the end that connects to the wheel via the flexible joint. Continuously Variable is the exact opposite scientific philosophy of constant velocity.
Brandon Lee lmao eloquently put you man of real genius damit you need to run for President
ATP AT-216 works in all automatic trans (not CVT or F) and they are very reputable.
Then explain how their ATF can meet both Mopar +4 specs AND Toyota WS specs at the same time. Not possible according to Dan.
this is Dans company
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Bill, this is all public information, what's your point. Please note in the video I am wearing an Amsoil shirt. I have never hidden any of this information. I am proud of my business and you failed to mention I am a Certified Lubrication Specialist (CLS), certified by the STLE (Society of Tribologist and Lubrication Engineers). The STLE recognizes my expertise and they don't care about my business just my knowledge. Maybe you should tell us about who you are so we can be on equal terms.
greedy filthy animals, aren't they?
so amsoil dealers know so little about cars he has to explain what a clutch pack is? This dude thinks the rad runs at 200f cause of the thermostat? LOL if the rad ran at 200f your car could never run like... under 240f...
BTW my 1980s np205 t-case can use gear oil ORRRRRRR atf... yep... ATF in a gear to gear transfer case... so the whole thing about a auto transmission... and atf...
CVT constant velocity transmission.... wow... just wow... dude donno wtf a cvt stands for but we should believe anything else?
Wonder if he knows what mercon LV means...
dude talks about API yet amsoil is not API rated LOLOL...
Matt
Please take your medication on time! Your eminence as the grand master of all things mechanical is not in question so you don't have to continually show your superiority.
Again, as I've told you in other post, my mission is to make sure the correct lubricant is called out for the application. So explaining the action in a clutch pack is a prelude to explaining the necessity to make a fluid that will be compatible with that action. It doesn't mean that no one knows what a clutch pack is but it is part of the explanation of why we have to make lubes that re compatible or that may enhance the clutch pack action.
Oh Matt, I don't think you have followed my complete explanations of ATF. I explain that the auto trans has real gears (sun and planetary) and that these gears can be under just as much load as the manual trans and yet they are protected by a very light weight ATF. There are even some manual trans that use ATF so of course the Transfer case uses ATF. So Matt what is the exact lubrication regime for standard gears (no contact and slide)? You know you can use ATF, 30 weight motor oil or 75W-90 gear lube in many transmissions in others the OEM is specific calls out a specific lube.
You got me on the CVT, I think I'll just go to my room and cry. Come on Matt, that's just gotcha tactics and usually comes from someone trying to show how they are the Superior dude. Truth is in all my discussions, I just use CVT and with all the acronyms I did a brain fart and substituted Velocity for Variable. Again, for my purpose which is to make sure the folks I am training know that the CVT takes a different fluid than the standard ATF.
Mercon LV .... I don't know Matt, if I get this wrong you may be elevated to Grand Pubar, so let me give it a try. Is it Low Viscosity? Oh my I hope so. This is so much like Middle School but I have to respond.
Amsoil meets and exceeds the API ratings on all oils. Amsoil does not license all their oils via the API and neither do all the oil manufacturers. Check out Valvoline high mileage oils and you won't find the famous donut symbol. The License means you are complying with the additive limits from the EPA and Valvoline and Amsoil may have a more robust additive package so the API will not license the oil. However the performance requirements set forth by the OEM's can be met and this qualifies the oil company to list on their bottles that they meet or exceed the API standard, you just won't see the licensing. Check out any Amsoil oil and you will see the API S for gasoline and C for diesel ratings. You will even see the donut on some products.
Matt, Amsoil has been making synthetic oil for auto's and trucks longer than anyone (since 1971). In fact Amsoil produced the first API rated synthetic oil for auto and trucks. Al Amatuzio started the company and today his son is now the CEO. This company went from a small startup to having over 800,000 square feet of manufacturing in an ultra modern blending facility in Superior WI. The company is well respected and considered the pioneer in synthetics. I don't think you like the idea of independent dealers. Al Amatuzio was crazy about entrepreneurs and loved to see the little guy get a chance, so Amsoil is built on the independent dealer model. You will have some Amsoil dealers who may not get everything exactly right and some who are over aggressive in sales but in my 27 years with Amsoil most dealers are striving to do a good job and build their business.
You really need to work on your sound quality to almost unbearable
It’s perfectly fine. He’s explaining the products from Amsoil. This isn’t universal studios.