Canon R5C - Hands-on First Look!
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Am I the only one stressed about that C70 on the back getting smashed every time Kai turns around?
I think I even heard a faint 'clunk' at one point.
@@JohnnyMotel99 You are right, it hit the wall at 4:59 . All my fears came true! lol
Yeah, when I heard the lens bang off the concrete!
Battle scars.
In all of the years I’ve spent on UA-cam, this is literally the only dude that can keep me watching camera stuff content until the end. Bravo bud.
for me, its because he sounds like hes hosting some kind of legit tv show. Gives a legit feel to whatever hes talking about!
he's magic. not blackmagic though.
Literally. I watch his videos even if I don’t care about the camera.
Kai is literally the first dude on UA-cam with the hands on footage right now.
Seems like...
CVP uploaded 4 hours before him
Nope
FilmTools had it 4 hours before the embargo time of 7am NYC time
Nope. Gordon Laing beat him by a hour: ua-cam.com/video/KHueaFxfqYQ/v-deo.html
stranger: are you that camera guy?
Kai equiped with 2 tons metric of camera gear : i'm that camera guy lmao
2 years later canon is copying the Panasonic s1h, they cripple the IBIS and AF system.
No ND and the lack of IBIS hurts this camera. Like who is this camera for? It's definitely not targeted to replace a C300 Mark III or C500 Mark II. Maybe a C200 but the no ND will hurt it. So I feel like it's targeted for people that shoot video with the 5D Mark IV or something equivalent. Sony A7III/IV peeps? But then that doesn't make sense because now you don't have IBIS for those type of shooters. Hell this video shows how the handheld look would look. It's all over the place. And then there is the small HDMI connection. Holy hell that's a large failure point. Have people actually used that cable connection? It's horrible. I may just be venting but I was expecting those little things to be included. At least built in NDs would make it more attractive. That would have been awesome for both photo and video mode. This feels like how the GH5S was released. Everyone hyped it up and then no one talks about it anymore.
The small HDMI is indeed terrible. Shame that Canon didn't upgrade it
None of the cine cameras have IBIS .... in all honesty. It's more a liability than a good feature.
@@Marlow925 yeah but who is this camera targeted to? IBIS makes more sense for the demographic this camera would appeal to. It’s still a hybrid camera…
@@definitionxmk I don't agree, that IBIS is the demographic this camera appeals to. IBIS has not even existed in the Canon sphere until the R5 and R6 came around. None of the DSLRs have it. Neither do the EOS R and RP. And it's not flawless in the R5 and R6 either.
So people that are coming from all those other Canon cameras didn't have it in the first place.
Additionally, somebody that comes from the Canon Cine series and maybe wants something more lightweight, that's also capable of stills doesn't have IBIS either. None of Canons Cine series have IBIS.
Gordon Laing's review shows the EOS R5 IBIS agains the EOS R5c with Digital IS and lens IS and it's really a non-issue. If you need more stabilisation beyond that (for video), you'll be using a gimbal anyhow.
And the R5 for example is not Netflix approved, nor is it approved by most of the others in the film industry. Do you know why ? The floating sensor, which is what provides IBIS. It's more of a liability than a feature.
@@Marlow925 That argument about IBIS not belonging in a cinema camera is the same as Autofocus not belonging in a "real" cinema camera. If that is the defense, than AF should NOT be in this camera since we are now saying it is one. However, they added it to their cinema lineup because it's really good. Just like how IBIS would be a good idea to be put in THIS camera. Let's be real here, no one is picking up this camera to shoot a feature FOR Netflix. That's where a C300+ comes in (if staying with the Canon vendor). Oh and speaking of Netflix, the bulk of your film just has to be shot on an approved camera. You see scenes all the time with a Gopro and 5D Mark IVs. But if you're ever at that point, we wouldn't even bother about this conversation.
Now if you want something lightweight the C70 sounds more of a better purchase. CLOG2 isn't even on this camera x_x' so now, if you are trying to match, you are limiting yourself to cameras that can shoot the same scenes on CLOG3 or a more standard color profile. That is if we are staying with Canon only.
This camera can still perform well. Especially for a seasoned filmmaker and videographer. But, to me, it definitely is targeted towards more to the latter and indie filmmakers. Exactly the people that were featured in the first official Canon promo. But a C200/C70 can do just as well. Or even the competitors; Sony A7SIII, FX3, and FX6 (especially this beast), etc.
The R5c is a "good" camera. It's not bad at all. But I just hate how people are trying to justify it's a "great" camera or defending it's "lack" of features. Especially if there are better selections out there. Now if it didn't have all of those faults (especially the micro HDMI FFS; this alone makes the camera not worth it), we would be singing a different tune. As an owner of a C500 Mark II, I wouldn't even look at this camera as a B camera. I would go the C70 route as that would be the way to go (notice that doesn't have IBIS but has the "cinema camera" features I DO need). It's a shame the C70 AF isn't up to par though. Hopefully this camera doesn't have THAT same issue as well.
8:30 - Renaming your channel to „That camera guy“? How about „That camera Kai“ - oh look that‘s that camera Kai
It feels so good to see Kai and Lok doing the videos together again. It will be nice if we can get Laimby in as special guest to do a season. You guys brought so much fun for audience back then.
Love Laimby She had me at gorgeous.....
The no IBIS, mediocre electronic stabilization unless you want a massive crop (spoiler alert...I don't) thing is just strange. The hot shoe audio and timecode are nice additions, but if the introduction of this thing puts the OG R5 on sale, that's 100% my play.
1.1 crop is massive? Or are you saying there’s a higher strength of stabilization that crops in further? First I’ve heard of it.
@@johnd9357 Thy showed it in the video. It has a 1.4 crop
@@johnd9357 yeah, there are 2 electronic stabilization strengths, the stronger of which yields a 1.4x crop. For my work (interiors) that's not really practical since we're shooting so wide already.
Great review Kai! Safe to say after trying the C70, I'm even more certain the R5C is the camera I'm looking for in my career. By the way, any chance there is a Vertical UI just like the C70 when shooting Vertical videos?
I saw in a video from Wex that it’s got a 9x16 framing element, that I’m not sure if was just blanking or actually cropping the image for portrait. Not sure if you shoot vertical the UI may adapt at that point though
@@crystalpulseTV thanks I will check out that video from Wex.
That 8 to 10 seconds is not good at all for me switching is a killer. Great codecs and frame rates but no IBIS, no full HDMI, battery eater and mixed cards. No way to have a backup in 8K or 120fps 4k. it's a very different camera over all. It just seems like a more indoors studio production video camera more good for very slow pace, controlled environments but not a fast pace, out door or moving type camera. Just me
I think, I will just get this as a back up for my Z9
The boot up time (10sec) on the C200 is pretty frustrating as well. You will miss shots when running and gunning. Honestly, the original R5 is perfect for my needs. Lightning fast when turning on or switching modes.
That long delay between photo mode and video mode is because you have to pass through the Off position on the way there. That initiates sensor cleaning, so it has to let that complete before turning on video mode.
if you turn off sensor cleaning,,, itll be faster no?
As far as the C200 goes, it takes about 10 seconds to boot up. Guessing this is the case for this one as well. Frustrating when using it for run and gun.
@@dingdong5601 No, in another review the camera was switched on directly from 'off' to 'video' mode and it just turned on normally, like turning on an R5. It didn't seem slow at all.
@@SonnyBCreative If that can be turned off, then yes! In another review the camera was already off. When switched on (directly to video mode) it appeared to fire up quickly, like turning on an R5.
@@cooloox ah ok. Well that’s good news.
Omg, seeing that delay in switching to video mode is staggering. That would be completely unusable in a fast paced hybrid coverage situation.
Not to mention, if shooting video (huge resolution/bitrates/codecs) you’ll have to wait another few secs for the data to write to the cards before switching to photo mode. Otherwise premature switching may result in file corruption
@@jonagreyphoto this is why I love my new Z9
Wait for firmware update, it will lessen that gap.
Faster than setting down a picture taken camera and reaching for the video camera.
@@davidlovephotog2 I'd rather have 2 cameras, that delay would 100% be unusable for the situations I shoot in.
Without internal ND this isn’t gonna work for me.. And I think R5 owners won’t be to sad for that ugly bigger version x) .. C70 for Cine anyways.. honestly I’m underwhelmed.. it’s an R5 with a fan
without IBIS, too.
Fx3 effect
Without genlock too
I'm happy I got the C70 in a black friday deal
This camera looks awesome
8 seconds to switch between video to photo? That's a big bummer (for me) cause sometimes the shot is gone in 8 seconds. Is there a way to speed this up, ie turn off sensor cleaning? I mean if it were 2-4 seconds that could be ok ... 8s just seems like I'm risking losing the opportunity for the type of work I do (i get this might be irrelevant for others).
Saw a Canon Sureshot Supreme on his table...my childhood was photographed on that with Kodak Gold
Was a lens hit against a wall at 5:00??
I went to the comments to see if anyone else noticed lol
While this does do photo, for video shooters, it makes more sense to get the fx3. You get full hdmi, ibis, and a lens for the price of one r5c.
The FX3 is a quarter the resolution though and doesn't do internal raw. Quite the difference in those aspects.
Edit: Also the timecode port is super useful
If you're a Canon guy for decades with Canon lenses, and want just 1 camera/system, I don't think it makes sense.
@@Slettador Yes, I should have clarified that if you need the resolution, it makes sense. But for those just shooting 4k, its a tougher sell if you like the convenience offered by the Sony. pros and cons
Fx3 ibis is junk & their colors suck
I was a bit surprised to see that piddly little HDMI under the R5C's flap.
It seems like the photo and video modes are using separate operating systems. That maybe the reason of the big delay on switching modes.
2:50 LOL "If anyone has bought the R5 for video, ooph, you're going to be gutted." True. R5C is fantastic.
You didn't have much time and you worked hard to get this out. Thank you!
Thanks!
I'm here to see the R5C reviews. But my eyes just kept looking at Kai's jacket. Looks very nice.
i can see this being the GO to for all independent and small budget film crews for small short films, small media companies. this is my opinions the way hybrid cameras should go, maybe not in the design but the implementations.
nah, black magic is still king
Small everything
@@Archonsx they may still be great but the battery, and menu is atrocious. To me a camera/ computer or software should be simple to navigate and go through black magic has a long way to go. But I think having a camera that has both OS like this can bridge the gap for smaller filmmakers
@@johnsysays I mean this be like good for pics too, but doesn't give ' I wanna take pics vibe'
@@peaceyoman123 I thought most liked the bmpcc 4/6k menu implementation? I have yet to use one.
And I agree this camera is great for small productions, you’d need a battery solution though
I can't even BEGIN to imagine two smashed-up cameras if the super-careful Kai Wong is looking after them. Love this video as usual Kai. Great stuff.
Here he is being super careful with the lens on that C70 on his back. 5:00 😁
“You think McKinnon does this?” 😂
Kai’s been banging out these on hands reviews quick though 🙌🏽 🔥
Canon R5C: Still worth it in 2022?
Congrats on the early scoop - great to see this camera in action.
Wow literally the first hands on first look of the Canon R5C on UA-cam! Way to go!
I just want to know what camera Ikea Lance was shooting with and see some comparison video he recorded of Kai tho
This Camera looks very much like an afterthought...
They just put a fan and swap the system to Cine version, then sell it as a new camera again😂
Utterly delightful review again, Kai. Are you in Hong Kong or UK? Xièxiè, dòjeh anyway. Cheers from the States!
UK. Thanks!
Ikea dude had exclusive footage of the R5C without knowing it lol
He thought it was an R6, too!
Can you get your hands on a BMPCC 6k Pro and show it in an overkill Vlog-like setup? I love your approach to reviews and I think it will be a fantastic take on it.
Cannot believe my eyes: a Yashica Samurai half-frame camera on the streets of London :-D
Came quite close to smacking the lens of the camera behind you on the lamppost and wall a couple of times.. so definitely NOT clumsy.
Finally a review for this camera!😃👍🏼
Thank you for doing the hands on review. The no built in ND filter is kind of a deal breaker for me. I bet the next model will have it.
doubtful, it's a full frame sensor, sensor is twice the size of the c70. there is no where to put nd filters, they still have the rf to ef adpater with a variable nd filter though
Yup, they had to let the IBIS go so definitely no space for internal NDs.
The RF to EF variable ND adapter is pretty great. Pricey and must use EF glass but works REALLY well.
Thanks! I think they still have to sell the C70, so I'm not sure we'll see that for a while.
Kinda suprised it's not 10K because V L O G
the delay in switching modes I believe it's because you had the auto sensor cleaning on didn't you?
It seems the camera is running two different operating systems. When switching between photos and video it appears that the selection switch boots up the selected operating system.
Damn, I am more interested in what Kai would say about that dream lens
I might do just that if that lens hasn't been sold.
@@KaiManWong Nice! Surely looking forward to it (hopefully). I just can't keep my self from staring at it among all other equipment on the table, this lens is simply gorgeous.
Thanks for the review "That Camera Guy". To be honest I've watch a ton of your videos, but it would take a while to remember your actual name.
Thanks for the hands-on video, Kai! Could you please confirm if it’s possible to turn the cooling fan on in the photo mode? It could be useful for long exposures (astrophotography).
Am I the only one who screamed at 1:56
the body reminds me of the Panasonic S1H, specially with the big fan in the back
4:59 that's why i dont use the camera hanging that way when i am walking around. OUCH!
Just get a Nikon Z9. Marginally more expensive but makes up for it with all of its proper features and inbuilt IBIS better than any other camera on the market (not to mention almost instant switching between photo and video mode - not this ridiculous 8 second lag).
Canon is way behind the mark with this one.
Canon is literally the only company I feel confident in. It’s the Apple of the camera world, Nikon is the android.
I found your surname means "younger brother"
as to Marquis of Jì...Kei in Cantonese (from copy of the 百家姓(Bai Jia Xing) )
quora answer website
Ancient Emperor descendant
and also double meaning to record, write down
You should look up family tree they are probably calling
using fan who has hazy memory. I thought I had ties to NW Europe, but found out 50% is E Europe and Italy
A very lovely video 📹 ❤ 😊
On Oxford Street?
That IKEA guy had a Yashica ???? Wow
Nice of Canon to take out IBIS. Good excuse about the electronic being better. Canon Cripple Hammer from the marketing dept. Good review as always though. My ire is at the canon Cripple hammer, not your awesome videos.
As always another banging funny review lol
Cheers!
One thing more to test... If these newly launched camera provides a USB video out & how good it is.
As we are in the chaos since 2+ years, many of us are still in work-from-home situation cause sectors with mass employees aren't allowed to work under one roof. This info might be helpful.
No IBIS = not for Vlogging
9:38 i was, like, "forget about that Canon whatever...what camera is THAT?" upon closer look, it's a Yashica Samurai x3.0...wow i never knew this camera even existed.
"and that battery lasts about 2 seconds" omg dead
is it weird to think that the C70 is still a better option as a "workhorse" camera? because of battery life and built-in ND's? Is the IBIS identical on the C70 vs R5C? (great videos Kai!!)
In EOS R5C video shooting mode,
Can I turn off the body digital IS and film using only the lens IS?
“Do you think McKinnon does this ?” 😂😂
IS and battery length kinda suck for a brick that size.
love the review camera guy, u sure will have a future in this journey on youtube!
vewy good fing dat cine cawa
Hi chinese guy, is it camera ok ? I need camera to photograph my dog, he is really pretty
@5:00 I was waiting for him to bounce the lens off of a sign or a wall and then *bonk*.
4:59 as that camera slams into the wall... ouch!
I saw that as well. :D It did not make a contact but there's some audio effects added. Nice detail though. ;)
Hey man, great review. One note, I'm not sure what camera was used for filming you, but the rolling shutter is very bad to the point the video becomes nauseating to watch, just something to think about.
Great video now I want to shift to Sony. I have lost all hope on canon
That looks like a great camera, but how many people actually need that 8k? Millions of content creators wait for upgrade of M50 with uncropped 4k and reliable AF, only thousands need 8k!
The advantage of 8K is not really to watch an 8K video, but to downsize it later to 4K while retaining the 8K detail, and have the ability to zoom in where needed and not lose image quality.
Let's be real. This isn't a Cine camera, but it shoots great footage.
Really curious to know how weather sealing its really like ..cos I think that will be my deal breaker I guess if it isn't really properly weather sealed, also the IS so far doesn't look as stable even in digital, definitely doesntly look like the infamous wobble is there , but definitely looks like an interesting camera :)
Air vents = Absolutely not weather sealed, I'm afraid. Also, the lack og IBIS isn't mainly justified by better digital stabilization, but rather the intended use cases of the camera. IBIS can cause issues in high action situations, and the people using this will probably want to use external camera support systems. Sounds to me like you would prefer the original R5 😜
@@Ohyehah yup, I agree, I would only get it as a supplementary more video centric camera which is obvious heheh, but definitely such an intriguing package, especially with the proper 45 Megapixel photos, sad though that it won't have the IBIS in photos though, wonder if it can compensate shake in Digital IS for pics? perhaps not. Fortunately I still do need the R5 more since I'm photo first and I shoot in shorter burst for videos
@@Ohyehah wrong. Just like the s1h, the vents don’t compromise weather sealing. They’re not open to the inside of the camera.
Great review, it's a huge camera for sure! I thought my sony a7r iv was big, but this? Probably not ideal for street photography. But more for studio work.
No run and gun focus issues with the Panasonic.
existential crisis for the ikea man
Lack of viewfinder on the C70...and lack of ND filters on the R5C..why cant we have both??
Some sort of Camera Guy name would be a great name for a channel. 😂
that jacket is freshhhh
Gotta say, Kai is that camera guy xD
As long as it's not that Nikon guy
Does it still take 8 seconds to switch if you just turn it off and then turn it on the other mode?
Did that guy have two girlfriends?
This is just how the R5 should have been from first release.
Good review, thought the video looked very good.
What do you mean, your real name is not "that camera guy".
There is no Dual Pixel Autofocus II in video mode, but the second version works only in photo mode,this is bad)
Why there is no IBIS, It’s so frustrating, If it had it, it would be the best camera in the Market
Too many sexual references, not watching
This is amazing thank you Kai
Make a video about the Canon 7 and the 50/0.95 please!
Will see what I can do.
Why not use a stablizer next time. The image is really shaky
That Camera guy is already taken.
My man’s!!!!
Speaking of smashed up cameras, WHAT THE BLAZES HAVE YOU DONE TO THAT LENS, MATE
4:59 plonk
this video claims it has C-log two, and clog three, that is not correct. It only has c log three.
Awesome camera! That delay while switching actually is not normal, maybe you sample had an older firmware? Check Gordons Laings review for reference. Concerning batteries: I think this one will like the newest version of the LP-E6 better. LP-E6 and LP-E6N will work, but if you are planning on filming with this, a battery grip packed with LP-E6NH would be the way to go (and as far as I know the camera will come with that battery as well).
No it's like that as always
Digital stabilisation is disappointing, and the AF is def sub par. Like the EOS R and C70. 😥
While this was filmed on a Sony it’s so hard to tell them apart when they switched. We live in a great time to have these beast at our disposal that is for sure. Not really sure who this camera is for, ppl that are true cinema shooters are complaing about lack of hdmi and built in nd’s, while run and guns are complaing about no ibis, size, battery life etc. i just switched to Sony with the a7iv and a7siii so I will not be able to get this camera but happy with my decision.
filmed on a Panasonic.
Weird. I was in that office just the other day 4:09. It has Kazakhstan Airways in that Building…just FYI 😂😂
is he really looking into the tiny EVF for filming this vlog... seriously must be a pain and also shaky i mean with all great gear available with monitor and autofocus...
Love the “Supreme” letterman’s jacket. I’d send you mine, but it’s big enough to fit two Kais. Because that is your name, I know it, because I’ve been following you work since the OG days in HK.
I'm getting that Yashica Samurai instead.
Who else cringed every time Kai almost smashed the camera on his back against a pole or a wall? :D
holy crap , how did you not smash that fortune hanging on your back into some wall or pole , you came so close
he does at 4:58 lol