Canon R5C Cine V-Mount Battery Rig - A full fledged Cine Camera
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- Опубліковано 10 лип 2024
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Time stamps:
Intro: 00:00
What I need: 00:46
Cage: 2:34
Monitor: 05:49
ND Filters: 06:46
Battery: 11:58
Audio: 15:07
Cables: 16:32
Gimbal: 20:07
Afterthoughts: 22:50
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Watched several R5C camera rig videos. I decided to go with your setup choices because it comes from experience on location. Your detailing and explanation was informative, interesting, and succinct. Thanks!
I loved how you started with YOUR goals and then went into how you solved that. Few of us have the exact same goals so it makes more sense to understand the WHY. Great job!
I have a similar R5C setup, same cage, same mic, same Meike VND adapter, quick detachable rails on the bottom, quick detachable top handle and monitor.
But for my goals, I’m using USB PD power, which can easily be mounted on my rails or on my hip/belt or in a pocket.
Exactly. That’s a point SO MANY people miss. Filmmaking is so diverse and there’s so many different situations to consider
Thanks for posting - great review of the setup
No plans to get this camera at all but I love watching people build their fav/loved cameras.
Love your rig. Thanks for the info 🙌🏼
Thank you so much! Especialy the Vmount Battery was an annoying search.
I am using this rig, with small modifications (I have a side handle) and I use a screw on VND. Thanks for the walk through, it really helped (and now I have too many FXLion Nanos)
Great informative video! Thanks for the great work! 🙏👍
Thanks for sharing!
Nice setup! We rigged out a R5C with a Anton/Bauer 68Wh Titon Base Battery. It last about 4 hours and works good most of the time. You just need to watch the battery life. If it gets below 5% it will corrupt footage, so you need to make sure you change it out around 10% battery life.
I am tossing and turning between the C70 and R5c, so thank you!!
R5C -- The EVF is amazing for capturing video.
Thanks for making this, very concise. Personally, I would lose the gimble and opt for the Easyrig minimax that way nothing changes when you switch over.
Great video! Thank you!
Awesome video!
perfect video and explication ! thank you !
Boom. Ordered this entire setup for my new R5C. Compact setup, quick setup and tear down. So tired of overthinking a rig and overcomplicating things.. This rig has everything you need! Solid build video man. Subbed and would be dope to collab one day!
nice! I did make one change though to the setup and added a quick-release plate for the battery.. Might do an upgraded version of it
And sure, where are you based?
@@damiencooper beauty. Good to know!
I’m in Canada, haha. But, I do tend to travel quite a bit. We should definitely connect 🎥👍🏼
is your footage shaky? or what helpss with the no ibis?
Thanks!!!
Kolari make magnetic Clip-in filters for the RF mount, that go in front of your sensor and behind your lens. They even have mist filters. Might be worth your while.
Meike also do a drop in Black pro mist filter, if you're using the mattbox varind then you could use the drop in promist which would be a bit easier than the rectangular promist.
That kit looks dope'.....
I have a different camera but a lot of great info to apply to my rig!!
I Love It...
Nice. Now my mission is to adapt this as best as I can using an r10.
Tilta sells this product that covers that problem, it allows you to stack your filters. TILTA MB-T16-SCF 95MM STACKABLE CIRCULAR FILTER TRAY
It does have heavy vignetting at anything below 28mm. I have that tray
Not bad solution. Thanks.
You never plugged in the microphone. Do you plug that into the camera mic port or in the monitor/recorder? I know you were just using the monitor, but if we are using the Ninja V as a recorder, would the mic be best into the Ninja or the camera? Thanks - great vid!
HELLO!...I'm curious. Does the battery indicator on the R5C show the actual battery life in minutes or does it show something more like 28 min? I'm using an NP-F with a Small Rig battery plate with a dummy battery cable and it never shows the actual battery time. Plus the camera will not turn back on after turning off...I have to re-power the battery plate. Would appreciate your thoughts...or experience with your battery.
I found a budget way, I use the smallrig matte box and a simtray with the screw on vnd filter and just pull out the simtray in and out.
Great content and I enjoy all of your videos.
oh, have to look into that simtray. Do you have a link?
Search for simmodlens then filter adapter tray
@@digitalvizun5678 just looked at it. Don’t 💯 get it though. So you throw it in the filter tray and then? Turn the ND filter from the front?
@@damiencooper Yes, you throw it in the filter tray and you turn it from the front and you can quickly remove it without unscrewing it on and off. It was my budget solution since I already had the screw on vnd and wanted the ability to do a quick swap in and out. Of course I’m just a hobbyist, may not translate as well in a pro work flow. Thanks for your time.
@@damiencooper Do not get this, the nisi true color vnd is a millimeter or two thicker so you won’t be able to remove the tray with it on the smallrig matte box. No issues for the Peter Polar Pro Vnd or freewell
This looks like a great set up, thanks for the excellent review. Are you at all worried about shorting out the HDMI port by using one power source for camera and monitor? I'm not sure if having a battery in the camera stops this from being a problem, but I see lots of people have at some time had this happen when using one power source for camera and monitor. There are conflicting recommended processes for avoiding it too. ARRI say turn the power source on, then connect HDMI/SDI. Then disconnect the cables before turning off power. From what I can see, Alvin's cables says the opposite!
If you use the Smallrig cable protector doesn't it block the mic cable?
Could you balance it on a gimbal with the vmount?
What's the average battery life are you getting out of the FXLION battery? Is it over 3-4 hours?
I have the same cage but don't have the side strap mounting accessory you have in the video. Nothing on small rigs website either.
Just wondering. Why not a dummy battery to D-Tap cable to go into any other regular Vmount battery? Have you tested this?
Damien, I was looking on smallrig for the attachment you mentioned for the strap hole that locks in the top of the camera and I can not find it. Any chance you can toss me the item number, or was it part of the new mamba kit?
im. a noob with videography and when i demoed the r5c in store i thought the video menus were a bit overwhelming for me. would i get away with the r5 for video? i m obviously concerned with the r5 overheating. i plan on shooting 4k at most
If it’s between the R5 and R5C, get the R5C all day long. You’ll get used to the menu. I’ll upload a video on all the settings soon
I use the same battery. The 50wh one gets me 2.5 hours before even touching the internal battery. The smaller 50wh also allows PD delivery for 8K60.
Which settings are you shooting in when it gives you 2.5 hours?
@@matthazlettfilms7569 XF-AVC 4K60 (Clog3) Canon said this was the most taxing mode.
@@NathanPhillipsPhoto great to know! Thank you!
Can you remote drive (rec/stop, f, speed, iso etc) the R5C with this monitor and the Sinobi 5/7 ?
Hi getting hissing sound from the same set up, wanted to know if your getting the same. If i place it on my video editing like resolve I have 4 clips?
What kind of cable do you use to connect the battery to the camera? could you give me a link where to buy them?
question : how r5c can connected to v mount battery and linked with ronin rs3 by wire too ? because we have just one usb c port
Can you not damage the ports by having the monitor and camera powered by a single v mount battery? I broke my HDMI port on my BMPCC4K due to that reason, does this not apply for Canon cameras?
Very helpful. I have a big learning curve coming from just the EOS R. Mainly shooting weddings and I started to wonder if I purchased the wrong camera because I just couldn’t find the quick rig to gimbal options like you showcased. Question tho? For someone like me who does have the RS2, but not the full set up, just the gimbal itself, I heard the gimbal can also power the camera, do you know if that’s true and how much the battery life on the gimbal could be impacted?
Well for me I am using R5 with Rs2 Pro Combo. It definitely doesn't power my R5, but the 3 usb c ports on the Rs2 each have different outputs. Bottom one seems to have the highest output draw as it can power my mars400s Pro Transmitter via usb c. Middle goes to control the focus wheel and top one is weakest, it's used to connect direct to cameras for shutter control or camera control really.
Can we use the fx lion battery attached to the R5C on a rs3 pro setup ?
Have you tried any of the V-Mounts that have the DTAPs and USB ports built into the mount? I would think one of these would be better because you would not need to unplug the cables when you change batteries and this would allow you to use different V-mount batteries.
You mean build into the vmount plate?
Yes, I have. Didn’t work
About the cable protector, why not use the one that comes with the R5C? It does the job and is way more sturdy imho.
Fun to see this one, because I found you originally when trying to figure out how to use my R5 for video, and lots of this seems still applicable. When you went C70, it left me in the dust. Curious about your thoughts on adding the Ninja V+ to the R5, in order to solve the raw overheating.... and that also adds apple pro res and power advantages. What other significant drawbacks? Thanks!
I think I already made a video on why I am personally not a huge fan of the ninja solutions. Prores is too big, monitor not bright enough, micro hdmi sucks and it eats batteries like crazy. But it could be great for lots of situations
@@damiencooper .... I looked at your vid list and searched youtube for monkeypixels and Ninja, but nada. I watched your Feelworld Lut6s but no mention relative to Ninja v+ Can you point me to the vid? Are Canon raw files smaller than Apple ProRes?
will the 150 WH battery also work on this?
I have a question about audio. When using the rode mic, do you link channels 1and 2 or do you unlink them? I'm having a hard time figuring out the best audio settings for vlogging. Thanks for the video, definitely goals.
I usually unlink them and have one record at a lower volume. So if something loud happens I have a safety track
@@damiencooper Great! I need to try that, so is one channel from the internal mic and second channel from the external (Rode) mic. Thanks once again!!😄
@@leobardobivianomedia no. Both are the same rode mic. One is the level you actually want to record and change it via the microphone. The other is also the rode just way lower.
When someone then starts laughing really loudly, channel one will clip but channel two will have perfect audio
Can you control shutterspeed, iso and aperture with the rs2 in VIDEO mode? And more important, can you trigger focus with the rs2 in VIDEO mode? (My R5 C crashes when I want to control it with my Zhiyun Crane 3 Lab)
That seems to be a canon problem. The C70 also crashes with the RS2 a lot.
As for the rest. No idea. I only use the record button with the RS2.
Thanks! With the RS2, do you focus by touching the screen or with a focusing system like Tilta Nucleus? Thanks for your help, really appreciate it.
Great video. How well do you feel the c70 cuts with the r5c?
Really well but not perfect. The R5C has slightly different skin tones I feel. But they look very similar
For audio, have you considered the TASCAM CA-XLR2d? If not, then why? Thanks for the informative video.
No. For run and gun it compromises the rig top handle etc.
for interviews I can record externally
@@damiencooper Oh, I see. I typically run and gun with subjects wearing lav mics. I may have to sacrifice the top handle. Good to know. Thanks.
I wish SmallRig would make a similar cage for the c70
Yes, weird they don't. I have built a similar rig for the C70 which I will upload a youtube video on very soon
Hello
Tilta-mirage-matte-box it's compatible with rf lens
24 105mm
a bit off topic - but: how do you like the AF and the IS performance? - I just purchased the R5C and I think both are not really reliable ...
I just noticed that when it's dark the autofocus seems lost even with the new firmware.
how about using a belt for v-mount batteries and running a D-Tap cable and a dummy battery? I think I'm going to try that solution when my R5c arrives
you will not have 8k6 with electronic lens control with a dummy battery.
Any update to the rig?
Thank you for making this video! In the ND filters section you discuss three different options but you didn't tell us what option you choose to use. Would you tell us which of those three or another that you chose?
All of the above 😂
Depends on the situation. Mostly the drop in filter or the mattebox
@@damiencooper Thank you! 👍
Where’s the mic cable?
I see you use EF lenses a lot. One thing puzzles me. My R5C will not use auto-iris on any of my EF lenses. But it will react to the 'force auto-iris' button. So obviously the hardware can do it. Is this the same with you? (I use auto Iris on stand-alone camera's filming theater) It's driving me nuts.
Good question. Never used it 🙈
Don’t think the C software supports it though
I’ve done this for a long time, and your videos are excellent. Tired of the stupid first time bloggers who know nothing-yours come from experience. Two questions. Why not use the Tascam XLR device made for the R5C, and if so, would it work with this rig? Also, have you found the usb-c cables don’t need support like the micro hdmi-are they that much stronger?
Thanks!
They also need support and the cage does provide a cable protection for both.
The XLR Device wouldn’t work with a top handle. So no, it wouldn’t work with this unfortunately
r5c vs c70 vs fx6?
can we use ninja v (not v+) with this camera? thank you
of course, as a monitor, or up to 4k60 recording.
Thanks for this great video! Its pretty cool to see your ideas to creeate a nice work flow with the R5c! How much PD-Power do the R5c need? I would buy a Swit MINO-S140 V-Mount battery. Should this one work too?
Can’t say. The fxlion was the only one capable I could find
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I really wish SmallRig would make this cage for the EOS R.
They have one for the EOS R. Is there something it is missing that this cage has?
@@nonamemcgee4842 Yes, they do and I have it currently. The R5 version looks like it fits better.
Where did you buy the Canon R5C? I saw it isn´t no available for sales yet. How did you get it?
I’m always on the top of the list as I buy so much canon gear
@@damiencooper but the R5C is a backordered. How did you get it?
@@juanmaringar back ordered means there’s more coming. I got the first in my country
would you recommend a follow focus?
Watch this: ua-cam.com/video/ZL4gjuZ5WBI/v-deo.html
So does the V-Mount battery solution you have here power the camera and the lens control even up to 8K 60p? Because I thought that the only way to power the camera and lens in 8K 60p was with a PD power bank.
Love these videos because you always walk through your reasons for the accessories that you have and show how each accessory works for the type of shooting environments you are in!😃 Keep up the great work!
Yes it does. The vmount battery is basically a power bank.
Thanks for the comment
You need an usb power source that has the 9V 3A PD Power profile to enable 8k60 with lens control. Not all PD power banks/USB-C V-Mount batteries have that, so keep an eye on it when shopping.
I know I am always going on about this but why does SmallRig and other cage manufacturers not listen about the filter. Here you are giving them a big plug and they still do not design the cage so the filters will go in and out without removing the lens.So frustrating as I love SmallRig but none of their cages worked with my R6 with filter so I sent them all back. The really stupid thing is it would not take much to change it.
I think it would severly compromise the integrity of the cage though. You can't move it back because it's in the way of the cable. You can't leave it out for stability and moving it forward would also make it less stable and would probably get in the way of zooming
@@damiencooper Not sure what it is like on the R5C cage but certainly on both the cages for the R5 & R6 it only needed a millimetre or two off for the filter to come out. I did eventually find a cage that would do OK after also trying a number of others. The cage I have works fine but I had to import it directly from China.
Can you record Video while powering ?
Absolutely
18:20 - I had that same micro HDMI Cable from atomos for my R6... And it broke within a day. Micro HDMI sucks. No other way around it unfortunately with the R5, R5C, and R6.
would u get the r5 or r5c?
@@randomrazr I'd prefer the R5C for its added cinema features but honestly I wouldn't buy it because I don't really want to deal with the file sizes from that 8K footage. I'd personally put my money towards either the C70 or R3, leaning more so towards the R3 because of its 6K Raw capabilities which I think would be a nice in between from 4K and 8K, and it's also a great stills camera and I still do a lot of hybrid work so that's probably where I'd max out for that.
@@RoccoGermani i had the r5c for a few days but it had a dead pixel so exchanging it. im second guessing because i dont like how it takes 8 seconds between switching from video to photo mode or vise versa. so if im taking both at a wedding and want to switch, 8 seconds is a long time that i could miss a good capture / moment. the only other couple things i found was the battery life on the internal battery is extremely short (coing from a EOS R) and the cinema menu was quite overwhelming for a novice videographer as i never expeirenced the cinema canon line up before until now. Im thinking of exchanging it for a R5, jsut worried that the 4k recording might overheat it .think its worth the trade off going tot he R5 o r should i jsut learn to use the r5c lol
@@randomrazr I'd keep the R5C because overall it is the better camera. I would take some time to familiarize yourself with the new menu system and testing it, because overall it is much better than the standard Canon menu system found on the R5. If you're shooting 8K raw video you can always pull 12 bit raw stills from the video, so that might be useful for you.
I am just curious why nobody uses battery grip for R5C?!
it barely adds any battery life.
I have the same rig for my R5c, just with the atomos Ninja V as monitor, but also find myself going to my C70 😅
I so wanted to get the kipper tie ND solution REVOLVA for my R5c…. Just to find out that i doesent work with anything else than the komodo… sucks.
Im just going to go with the overpriced Canon ND adaptor and just keep using my EF glas that I use for the c70 + speedbooster 😅😔
I really think the Meike might be the better option
@@damiencooper yeah, I have heard that it has les of the X shaped crosshatching artifacts.
Maybe ill try that one instead.
Also I dont get that they made it so that you dont get a “empty” glas filter for not messing up the backfocus.. I dont get that no one have made a smarter “build in” ND solution yet.
The C70 is just making my life easier in that regard.
Are those rods 10cm or 15cm in length?
Pretty sure it’s 10
Thanks!
I wish the R5C have IBS just for that I end up with the R5 instead
How are you miced for this video ?
Boom mic above me. Will do a Video on how I record my UA-cam videos soon
@@damiencooper please do
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