"Once you go into valor mode, that is when the fun start." I have heard this line at least 14 times now and its got to be a joke. No way you just use the same line every time by accident.
Hopefully, this isn't redundant information, but here is a hot tip with the HBG in Valor mode. There is the worry that you have to deal with the long unsheathing animation with the HBG after each valor evade. However, there is a way to circumvent that. If you hit the X button as you do the valor evasion animation you will do an additional roll that will cancel the sheathing. This makes getting into Valor mode so much easier.
I think people need to take how 'good' a particular style is for a weapon, with a grain of salt. In the end, if you enjoy playing a particular style (and aren't trying to speed-run) then play it, regardless of how strong the community perceives it.
IRatchetI enjoyment is one thing, but there are weapon and style combinations that are either objectively capable of dealing more damage or provide more options overall than other styles. I have a ton of fun with Aerial Greatsword, but that doesn't make it not inferior to Guild/Striker/Adept/Brave Greatsword.
Oh i definitely agree that there will be some weapon/style combo's that are stronger then others (i might have worded my previous comment incorrectly there). I'm just saying if you enjoy playing a certain weapon/style combo play it regardless of how 'powerful' everyone else sees it as.
This is true. But it doesn't really change that some weapon styles are objectively worse. You can enjoy a style all you want, but that doesn't mean it isn't inferior to another. I loved my brief stint with aerial LBG, but that doesn't mean adept wasn't the go to style for like every weapon in MHG bc of how broken it was.
I wouldn't take the community consensus 'with a grain of salt'. *Some weapon combos are flat out better than others. No arguement.* But yeah, play what you want. I'd rather have fun than speedrun personally.
I'm just happy to once again have access to other rapid shots aside from elemental, normal, and spread! That is the one thing I hated about bowguns in MHW, the rapid fire for BG were just pure garbage compared to rapid firing sticky, pierce, blast, bomb ect in older games like MHXX/GU. I'm definitely gonna play both still but MHGU will be my main go to for my MH fix, plus I miss fighting my favorite monsters Lagiacrus, seltas queen, and most of all Nerscylla.
Thanks for this. Here I thought I'll never touch bowguns but you just gave me a new vision on weapons I overlooked. Adept and Alchemy is fun to play in my opinion... Gotta try out that Valor Style as well.
One little tip that I want to give to entry level players is that gunner weapons are very fun and very influential on a hunt in the right hands, but it is not recommended you try solo hunts with them unless you know what you are doing. You do lack some of the maneuverability that you would otherwise have with blademaster weapons and if the monster keeps their attention on you, most of your time will be devoted to trying to disengage and get their attention off of you instead of hitting them with your shots. As opposed to blademaster, where you can hold your own up close and weave attacks into your dodging somewhat fluidly. That being said, Valor LBG is good for solo hunts and while I haven't tried alchemy LBG yet, it looks incredibly fun and looks like a great style for a support build (and I do love me some supporting)
There is something I noticed that you forgot to mention about the Valor Style of HBG. Both inside and outside of Valor mode, if you press X immediately or very quickly after a successful Valor evade, you will perform a roll and keep your weapon unsheathed.
I've played hammer and LS for *years* but picked up LBG during World. This tutorial popped up right as I tried and failed at using it in the switch demo so I hope this tutorial saves me.
Coming from world didn't do you any favors either. The controls for them take getting used to and the games each play differently, world is like fighting but regular mh games are more like chess
“You might have already done everything you wanted to do” Me: can’t even pass the 1 Star Tetsucabra mission because I lack any sense of patience and just want to slap it.
Wtf is with them shafting striker and alchemy hbg? I don't mind the idea of losing siege mode but they need more benfits then they provide. I absolutely loved the limiter system in 4u and was disappointed to see it leave.
Some weapons are harder to tune for certain styles and are gonna be weaker in those modes at the risk of being too powerful if they were tuned up For example, if they buffed adept IG so the kinsect wouldn't blow all of its stamina, it would, yes, open up more build options, but it would also likely render every other style obsolete and be very powerful in end high rank and G rank.
I'd imagine Striker and Alchemy HBG aren't so bad if you're using a gun with Low recoil and / or crap siege fire options. Like the Viznak Cannon or True Lao-Shan Cannon, for instance.
I got Generations Ultimate recently, and almost every LBG player I've met (myself included) is running a Pierce LBG set with Hurricane's Gaze (Silverwind Nargacuga LBG's new final form) using Valor or Adept. I personally use the regular Nargacuga LBG, which has 2 slots, making it slightly more versatile. Those two extra slots, combined with an Expert +10 OOO charm, has enabled me to build a set with the following skills: Critical Eye +3 (+30% affinity) Pierce/Pierce Up (+10% damage on Pierce shots) Shot Booster (increases your critical distance) Ammo Saver (randomly makes it so you don't use a unit of ammo when you shoot) Critical Boost (raises the damage of critical hits from +25% to +40%) Both Narga and Silverwind's LBGs have 40% affinity, and have Pierce 1 on Rapid. A team of gunners using these will create a near constant shower of pink sparks from the monster they gang up on, and it is a delight.
wow i was told a long time ago the new LBG art was useless, people said it only did abotu as much damage as a Normal lvl 2, a single one, not FIVE of them the part breaker bonus, minor pierce and t he fact its about 5 Normal 2s? i like that alot, the HBG sounds incredibly fun and powerful too
Still trying to learn the HBG from Bow. Really difficult. Valor I can't get into Seige Mode and constantly get hit. I'm trying adept now and hoping it'll be better for me. If it doesn't work out I'll have to use LBG as my secondary but Idk how I'll fair against bigger tougher monsters that I would rather hit hard with. Your videos are helping me a lot though so thanks!
What I do find really annoying with the quick target mode is the way the analog stick is handled, there is simply no goddamn speed curve, which makes it a pain to aim correctly. There is also a strange movement the target makes right after you've shot when you use the character movement joystick. I vaguely remember a horrible arena quest with LBG in 4U that made me drop the weapon until I tried it again on World where i found it amazing (moving and aiming with it is just so much better, but I can understand the lack of deepness in the technical aspect). I just hope I'll be able to get into using the Bowguns in XX (or even games that will keep using the old bowgun system).
Any suggestions for brave style HBG armour sets? I'm fairly new to Monster Hunter, so some pointers before Generations Ultimate comes out would be great haha. Mostly looking for sets I can get early on :)
Way to blow my buzz guy. I am playing Monster Hunter for the first time ever on switch and fucking loving it, the first thing you say is "So you are probably getting bored of Monster Hunter". Now I'm worried about how easy it is to get bored of this game. THANKS BUDDY
Actually if you do aerial downward shot on LBG it automatically reloads your gun and I believe it still has a side hop you can do after aerial vault. Oh he has changes at the end of the vid well whatever....
I miss how gunner class was actually interesting in the older games. At first I thought the streamlined approach they went for MHW was intuitive but there is just no depth to using any of the ranged weapons.
Hey Gaijin I was wondering what is your lbg set that you used in this video. I’m figuring it’s a transmog set but I was wondering what is the first set to get you the skills.
Is there a way to have more shots at a time loaded? As example I only have 3 shots for normal and I would be happy if I could have that many shots as well.
Thank god for these tutorials. I've been playing world and haven't played an old school MH since 4U's launch. I have no idea what I'm doing and am overwhelmed.
Is there any way to fire with any of the shoulder or bumper buttons, I hate pressing A to fire and I'm coming from mhw. I just want to aim with analog sticks and fire at the same time.
A question about heavy bowgun valor style: can I use any kind of ammo in the valor crouching fire or does it have to be ammo listed under the "crouching fire" tab of the weapon?
"the sliding dodge has I frames just like regular dodges" What I frames? I get hit less if I just stand there and either take a hit or get pushed out of the way, dodging is just get hit
Just as a side note: with Valor HBG you get evasion+1 while in valor mode. That means with some practice you can easily i-frame incoming attacks directly from siege, go straight into the dash and siege again. Yes... it's quite crazy indeed.
can someone tell me if the new "charged shot" hunter art for LBG is good? i used it a few times, but holding A to charge while also moving and Aiming is hard. I need more thumbs on my right hand =/
Try the claw. It's uncomfortable but you will get used to it Orient your thumb on the joystick, your index finger on the A button and your middle finger on R.
Gajin can you make like a general tutorial? It’s my first time playing Generations and I’m coming from World I don’t know how to do SHIT I don’t even know how to adept evade 😭😭
question for any experienced hunter who comes across this, or gaijin himself. since HBG is not about the element shots as LBG is, how do you go about selecting a HBG to make and use? is it as simple as picking highest raw, low deviation, and make sure it can take a couple of shot types? cus that seems like you would never need more than one or two lines to b working on for the whole game
I see in your valor seige mode against shagara, you are seiging very fast. Everytime I dash then Serge it takes awhile to set up. Is there a skill that reduces siege animation time?
"Once you go into valor mode, that is when the fun start." I have heard this line at least 14 times now and its got to be a joke. No way you just use the same line every time by accident.
Now look for the few instances I purposely didn’t ^^ lop
Valor is just that insane aha i mean look at LS and GS valor :P charge blade isnt bad either.
Anakin Skywalker: *This is where the fun begins.*
@Dillon Aiden ok, totally real person
Hopefully, this isn't redundant information, but here is a hot tip with the HBG in Valor mode. There is the worry that you have to deal with the long unsheathing animation with the HBG after each valor evade. However, there is a way to circumvent that. If you hit the X button as you do the valor evasion animation you will do an additional roll that will cancel the sheathing. This makes getting into Valor mode so much easier.
4 years late but you can also use that roll to go straight into siege mode
Thank you for this insightful, comprehensive, and thorough tutorial, Gaijin Hunter! You made me want to play MHGU some time in the near future 😃
I think people need to take how 'good' a particular style is for a weapon, with a grain of salt. In the end, if you enjoy playing a particular style (and aren't trying to speed-run) then play it, regardless of how strong the community perceives it.
IRatchetI enjoyment is one thing, but there are weapon and style combinations that are either objectively capable of dealing more damage or provide more options overall than other styles. I have a ton of fun with Aerial Greatsword, but that doesn't make it not inferior to Guild/Striker/Adept/Brave Greatsword.
Oh i definitely agree that there will be some weapon/style combo's that are stronger then others (i might have worded my previous comment incorrectly there). I'm just saying if you enjoy playing a certain weapon/style combo play it regardless of how 'powerful' everyone else sees it as.
Eze The Igwe you’re in luck, because it got a buff in gu
This is true. But it doesn't really change that some weapon styles are objectively worse. You can enjoy a style all you want, but that doesn't mean it isn't inferior to another. I loved my brief stint with aerial LBG, but that doesn't mean adept wasn't the go to style for like every weapon in MHG bc of how broken it was.
I wouldn't take the community consensus 'with a grain of salt'. *Some weapon combos are flat out better than others. No arguement.*
But yeah, play what you want. I'd rather have fun than speedrun personally.
22:45 1000 degree knife vs rathian
pew
see, all i think of when i see this comment is the glavenus ecology video, where he chops a rathians wingtalons clean off.
I'm just happy to once again have access to other rapid shots aside from elemental, normal, and spread! That is the one thing I hated about bowguns in MHW, the rapid fire for BG were just pure garbage compared to rapid firing sticky, pierce, blast, bomb ect in older games like MHXX/GU. I'm definitely gonna play both still but MHGU will be my main go to for my MH fix, plus I miss fighting my favorite monsters Lagiacrus, seltas queen, and most of all Nerscylla.
Time for rapid crags. Thank god for importing of saves.
You best be ready for Yian LBG, we be sticky-in till the day we die with that rapid fire
You can rapid fire stickys now in MHW at least, so now its normal pierce spread sticky and elemental RF. Now we just need RF slicing lmao.
Playing the demo now! Happy to learn how the heck that Valor HBG works. God its INSANE
Void piercer looks savage!
Glad we sorta got to keep it in the form of the wyrmstake
Thanks for this. Here I thought I'll never touch bowguns but you just gave me a new vision on weapons I overlooked.
Adept and Alchemy is fun to play in my opinion... Gotta try out that Valor Style as well.
One little tip that I want to give to entry level players is that gunner weapons are very fun and very influential on a hunt in the right hands, but it is not recommended you try solo hunts with them unless you know what you are doing. You do lack some of the maneuverability that you would otherwise have with blademaster weapons and if the monster keeps their attention on you, most of your time will be devoted to trying to disengage and get their attention off of you instead of hitting them with your shots. As opposed to blademaster, where you can hold your own up close and weave attacks into your dodging somewhat fluidly.
That being said, Valor LBG is good for solo hunts and while I haven't tried alchemy LBG yet, it looks incredibly fun and looks like a great style for a support build (and I do love me some supporting)
I like how he says if you feel bored, try gunning.
I have 1670 hours in MHGU and most of my melee weapons have 0 usage.
Gunner for life.
😴
Even tho i started the game with a HBG i'm still here watching your videos😂
There is something I noticed that you forgot to mention about the Valor Style of HBG. Both inside and outside of Valor mode, if you press X immediately or very quickly after a successful Valor evade, you will perform a roll and keep your weapon unsheathed.
this would have been so useful to know sometime. thank you, you have saved me from minor future frustrations.
Oh, this is just what I have been looking for! Tnx!
I really enjoy the video as same as all the others, very useful, thnx pal.
And also, are you going to make a new guild on MHGU?
Finally, aerial pellet heavy bowgun returns >:]
I've played hammer and LS for *years* but picked up LBG during World. This tutorial popped up right as I tried and failed at using it in the switch demo so I hope this tutorial saves me.
Coming from world didn't do you any favors either.
The controls for them take getting used to and the games each play differently, world is like fighting but regular mh games are more like chess
22:33 so they litterally gave HBG a pile-bunker HA, which is badass.
1:40
Why do you like LBGs so much.
Cause they are on par with military operations
Thanks for making MHGU tutorials! :)) excited for West demo tonight!!!
Kyle Kent ty man i didnt know about that :)
“You might have already done everything you wanted to do”
Me: can’t even pass the 1 Star Tetsucabra mission because I lack any sense of patience and just want to slap it.
How far are you now?
expecT noThing hahahahaha no
@@adrianbuelna1 ah
Bro I'm hr 6 with 266 hours you've gotta be farther than me
@@expectnothing9032 He definitely quit the game lol
HBG is the hit n’ run of gunner weapons because you move slowly when holding it. Quick sheath is a good skill to have.
5:39 I see you trying to sneak the puns in there.
Valor HBG: Let's just take every negative of the weapon type and just straight up get rid of it.
Oh, what, that's too OP?
WHO CARES!
Haha glorious
So glad I stumbled upon your videos. You are a godsend, my friend
Wtf is with them shafting striker and alchemy hbg? I don't mind the idea of losing siege mode but they need more benfits then they provide. I absolutely loved the limiter system in 4u and was disappointed to see it leave.
Striker style is Classic mode
Some weapons are harder to tune for certain styles and are gonna be weaker in those modes at the risk of being too powerful if they were tuned up
For example, if they buffed adept IG so the kinsect wouldn't blow all of its stamina, it would, yes, open up more build options, but it would also likely render every other style obsolete and be very powerful in end high rank and G rank.
I'd imagine Striker and Alchemy HBG aren't so bad if you're using a gun with Low recoil and / or crap siege fire options. Like the Viznak Cannon or True Lao-Shan Cannon, for instance.
@@SotiCoto trying using the kokoto hbg
I got Generations Ultimate recently, and almost every LBG player I've met (myself included) is running a Pierce LBG set with Hurricane's Gaze (Silverwind Nargacuga LBG's new final form) using Valor or Adept. I personally use the regular Nargacuga LBG, which has 2 slots, making it slightly more versatile. Those two extra slots, combined with an Expert +10 OOO charm, has enabled me to build a set with the following skills:
Critical Eye +3 (+30% affinity)
Pierce/Pierce Up (+10% damage on Pierce shots)
Shot Booster (increases your critical distance)
Ammo Saver (randomly makes it so you don't use a unit of ammo when you shoot)
Critical Boost (raises the damage of critical hits from +25% to +40%)
Both Narga and Silverwind's LBGs have 40% affinity, and have Pierce 1 on Rapid. A team of gunners using these will create a near constant shower of pink sparks from the monster they gang up on, and it is a delight.
wow
i was told a long time ago the new LBG art was useless, people said it only did abotu as much damage as a Normal lvl 2, a single one, not FIVE of them
the part breaker bonus, minor pierce and t he fact its about 5 Normal 2s? i like that alot, the HBG sounds incredibly fun and powerful too
Woah the HBG valor run is insane!
That arial style looks badass! I hope it comes to World in Iceborne.
Lol
I love ur channel soo much
Asha Cameron oh yeah yeah
Is anyone else having trouble going from valor HBG run into Siege?
*clicks time-stamp*
Gaijin Hunter: "Hunh!"
the hype is getting to me even tho i already pre ordered the game
I'm really loving valor style for these bow guns. Playing on Double Cross, but I still really enjoy this game and this style
Oh boy...
*Pew pew*
Good to hear that HBG are kind of OP in valor mode...gives a great reason to try it ^^
I can't wait for mhgu . The hype is real😄
I guess I'm gonna try bowguns this time after spending 23 minutes of watching a video about it
Still trying to learn the HBG from Bow. Really difficult. Valor I can't get into Seige Mode and constantly get hit. I'm trying adept now and hoping it'll be better for me. If it doesn't work out I'll have to use LBG as my secondary but Idk how I'll fair against bigger tougher monsters that I would rather hit hard with. Your videos are helping me a lot though so thanks!
The Siege mode can only be activated in valor mode? Because i AM pressing X +A and nothing happens
@@stevelleremy1685Yep, Valor only.
Id like to point out that in adept HBG, you cant do the fast reload from a ledge
What a nice birthday gift!
What I do find really annoying with the quick target mode is the way the analog stick is handled, there is simply no goddamn speed curve, which makes it a pain to aim correctly. There is also a strange movement the target makes right after you've shot when you use the character movement joystick.
I vaguely remember a horrible arena quest with LBG in 4U that made me drop the weapon until I tried it again on World where i found it amazing (moving and aiming with it is just so much better, but I can understand the lack of deepness in the technical aspect).
I just hope I'll be able to get into using the Bowguns in XX (or even games that will keep using the old bowgun system).
HGB Siege turns into Proto-Wyvernheart?
Hot. Damn.
Any suggestions for brave style HBG armour sets? I'm fairly new to Monster Hunter, so some pointers before Generations Ultimate comes out would be great haha. Mostly looking for sets I can get early on :)
Try this Pierce set half silverwind nargacuga armor, lagiacrus guards R, and deviant mizutsune HBG
Did you guys know that Valor mode is where the fun begins?
Cause it's fucking true.
A tutorial every day?! Yeah! I need to learn more and more so maybe I could be as good as the pros like apex and you!
Obviously we know the Kushala HBG is the absolute best no contest.
Liam Kinny not really, if you're looking for DPS G Rank Zinogre HBG is the best one.
That new HBG Art looks EXACTLY like the Gunlance super move from World. Including the exploding stick thing.
Way to blow my buzz guy. I am playing Monster Hunter for the first time ever on switch and fucking loving it, the first thing you say is "So you are probably getting bored of Monster Hunter". Now I'm worried about how easy it is to get bored of this game. THANKS BUDDY
Just got a switch for MHGU. World is great, and so is Gen. Can't wait!
Thanks much needed for the switch
Valor LBG looks wayyyyyyy too fun
Probably gonna get Ultimate on the Switch. After all, save data transfering is possible in the game.
Its only on the switch.So you would have to get it on there.Unless your talking about MHXX.
Isn't Double Cross just the name for Ultimate in Japan?
R.J.J. O Yes, only XX is on the 3ds while we just get the Switch release.
I pre ordered the game all ready
Switch axe is my favorite weapon in the demo with striker art
11:47 80% damage would be x0.8 -- not x.08. 0.08 is 8/100
How is he aiming ? I can't figure out how to aim better lol, does he tap L then Tap R right after ?
Tap R for first person, hold R to go into quick-target mode.
@@obsidironpumicia4074 Works in MHFU too
Charge shot? Great, that confirms we won't get another megaman x or zx game and dropping my low expectations even further
Actually if you do aerial downward shot on LBG it automatically reloads your gun and I believe it still has a side hop you can do after aerial vault. Oh he has changes at the end of the vid well whatever....
Great video as always! 😊
You can also evade out of crouching fire in aerial
I miss how gunner class was actually interesting in the older games. At first I thought the streamlined approach they went for MHW was intuitive but there is just no depth to using any of the ranged weapons.
MrCactuar13
There’s tons for HBG. Not so much for LBG.
Hey Gaijin I was wondering what is your lbg set that you used in this video. I’m figuring it’s a transmog set but I was wondering what is the first set to get you the skills.
Back after a year. Need to beat this with a bowgun!!
thanks this video helped A lot!
Hold the heck up! Is that Samus's blaster as your bowgun!
Fuck rapid fire rain, that charge looks sexy!
Is there a way to have more shots at a time loaded? As example I only have 3 shots for normal and I would be happy if I could have that many shots as well.
Thank god for these tutorials. I've been playing world and haven't played an old school MH since 4U's launch. I have no idea what I'm doing and am overwhelmed.
Remember Medium/mixed bowguns?
Is there any way to fire with any of the shoulder or bumper buttons, I hate pressing A to fire and I'm coming from mhw. I just want to aim with analog sticks and fire at the same time.
Nice! Keep ‘em coming! 😁
A question about heavy bowgun valor style: can I use any kind of ammo in the valor crouching fire or does it have to be ammo listed under the "crouching fire" tab of the weapon?
yessss thank you sir!
i wonder how exactly shot booster influences critical distance in the charts you show for example at 13:00, i wouldve included that in the video
"the sliding dodge has I frames just like regular dodges" What I frames? I get hit less if I just stand there and either take a hit or get pushed out of the way, dodging is just get hit
Why the hell am i watching all of these through again? Lol
Because his lecture voice is hella soothing
As a beginner player what should I focus to get good w bow guns
Love your videos
Just noticed that you said Rapid Fire can shoot 3-4 shots. 4 shots are specific to a kind of shot/skill?
Generally the early game LBGs can fire rapid 1 5 times, and with the skill bonus shot it can fire an extra shot
Bonus shot affects all LBGs
Just as a side note: with Valor HBG you get evasion+1 while in valor mode. That means with some practice you can easily i-frame incoming attacks directly from siege, go straight into the dash and siege again.
Yes... it's quite crazy indeed.
can someone tell me if the new "charged shot" hunter art for LBG is good? i used it a few times, but holding A to charge while also moving and Aiming is hard. I need more thumbs on my right hand =/
Try the claw. It's uncomfortable but you will get used to it
Orient your thumb on the joystick, your index finger on the A button and your middle finger on R.
Is adept still viable for HBG or is it all just valor mode now? Just wondering.
I say use striker and valor for HBG. I say use striker HBG with critical sets and valor for Pierce
Gajin can you make like a general tutorial? It’s my first time playing Generations and I’m coming from World I don’t know how to do SHIT I don’t even know how to adept evade 😭😭
In MHGU skills need to be lvl 10 to be active remember that
question for any experienced hunter who comes across this, or gaijin himself. since HBG is not about the element shots as LBG is, how do you go about selecting a HBG to make and use? is it as simple as picking highest raw, low deviation, and make sure it can take a couple of shot types? cus that seems like you would never need more than one or two lines to b working on for the whole game
I see in your valor seige mode against shagara, you are seiging very fast. Everytime I dash then Serge it takes awhile to set up. Is there a skill that reduces siege animation time?
If you are doing the dash, evade then press X+A at the same time to jump right into siege!
@@gaijinhunter 1. Oh my God Gaijin replied to me, I am literally shaking from pure joy
2. Thank you!! That made my valor hbg game top notch!
Is the elemental damage from pierce element shots affected by critical distance or is it just the raw that gets the boost?
chilX3467 only the raw gets boosted, which makes critical distance pretty useless on elemental damage.
Wait they removed Limiter Removal? That’s a huge nerf to some guns...
Alright i will bite on HBG. Valor is my favorite style for most weapons i play.
Good guide
Are you going to use the new English demo for the other guides? It just came out
Did you ever do the full bowgun shot guide?
20:34 saving for myself in the future
How to unlock all monster list on guildcard mhxx/mhfu?
Hey gaijin are you aiming charged shot art while moving? Is there a setting or method I’m missing in how your doing that
ヘビィボウガン最強！ヘビィボウガン最強！ヘビィボウガン最強！ヘビィボウガン最強！ヘビィボウガン最強！
so alchemy hbg is the same as striker hbg but with faster reload?
And sp mode hmm the potential for interesting mixed sets
Do you know if the Charged Shot hunter art is affected by Normal Up and/or Felyne Sharpshooter? I can't find a straight answer anywhere.
7:55 does bullet geiser have invincibility frames in it like absolute evasion or tactical retreat?