Eric is like the perfect reactor. He understood the whole message behind Mustang vs. Envy scene as opposed to getting irritated that he didn't just kill him, he knew right away that Armstrong used Sloth to pop his shoulder into place, he remembered Izumi was in Briggs's prison and knew she was the one who helped them get into central command, and he caught on to the symbolism from the shot of Father's reflection through that flask. You can tell he truly appreciates this anime and all of its glory :D
Agree. But I'd say Calvin's more emotionally invested in the show, notice how his facial expression changes from scene to scene? And I think he's eyes actually turned watery in the envy scene...
*+Jake Liu* Agreed. Calvin is the most emotional invested in the show, Eric just pays a lot of attention to details and truly appreciates the show because of that.
Eric is rewatching the earlier episodes of the series as he mentions in episode 55 which is currently up on Patreon. That's why a lot of what has happened is fresh in his mind. Don't be too hard on the others, many of these episodes were filmed weeks in advance to give themselves and their editors adequate time for both editing and for Early Access. In the most recent reaction of The Flash, Eric mentions an MHA character's powers that was 2 episodes away from what was already on Early Access Patreon. But yes, Shane is always one to see things simpler than the others. He doesn't see a reason not to kill a monster which is single-handedly responsible for a war and subsequent genocide amongst other atrocities, and he doesn't think doing it once will change him. I think otherwise but that's me.
Riza was fulfilling the promise she made to Mustang after the war. She was willing to shoot him after seeing him stray from the path he intended. Love their dynamic.
jaime ruiz im just gonna guess that u hate these two characters considering every reply u do is about arguing how these two could have died earlier or how their relationship doesnt make sense or something along those lines, if u think that this is such horrible writing then why do u even watch reactions to this episode, your the one who doesnt make sense
Envy started a war by killing an innocent child, murdered Maes Hughes and countless other people, constantly bragged and laughed about what he did, looked down on others... and when he died... ...I felt sorry for him. That is some outstanding writing right there.
I hope people understand that Riza didn't stop Roy killing Envy out of pity or mercy. Everybody understood that Envy needed to be eliminated. But the way in which he was doing it wasn't like with Lust when he was protecting someone with controlled fury. This was just rage fuelled vengeance for self satisfaction. Riza trusted Roy with her father's alchemy on the grounds that he would use it to protect, not to destroy. Also, Envy's death was so amazing, just due to how pathetic it was. He died sobbing, embarrassed and humiliated that everyone saw his deepest insecurity that he tried to hide with sadism and self superiority.
Mats Martensson You should realize just because it’s correct doesn’t mean that it’s not edgy. You are acting like, whether you are aware of it or not, some edgy teenager. For example what purpose did you have for saying that nothing ever “needs” to be anything. It served no purpose to the conversation at all as that wasn’t the point of the argument. It was actually just a figure of speech, not everything should be taken literally. I assume you are smart enough to know that so the only possible answer for writing down that comment that I could think of is that you are trying to be edgy. Your argument is flawed anyway as you can say that for almost anything. Also need means require (something) because it is essential or very important. So really a person could NEED anything as long as it’s important to them. As keeping everybody alive was important to mustang and the rest they Needed to kill Envy. One more thing I mean does it matter if we made it up? It seems like you are viewing the concepts of value, importance, law and all the other stuff we made up like it’s a bad thing. Which it is definitely not.
Mats Martensson “False “should” is a myth” I’m gonna stop you right there you are nitpicking. what I mean by nitpicking is looking for small or unimportant errors or faults, especially in order to criticize unnecessarily. It doesn’t matter if it’s a myth or not that is the literal definition of the word. As I said saying should shouldn’t matter to the conversation at all. You are looking for small or unimportant errors to criticize people unnecessary and I find that to be you being edgy and you intentionally misrepresenting the proposition that i set up because its easier to defeat than my real argument. Another word for that is strawman. “I don’t care what you feel about it. It’s logic.” You obviously care enough to type about it. Also I never said that it wasn’t logic, I specifically said that you were correct about it being logic so I don’t know why you feel to have the need (yes I’m saying need it’s figurative speech.) to state it again. My point is that it’s still edgy. “I’m 38. I don’t care what you feel I act like.” You care enough to type this so.. “None since purpose is another myth, you’re thinking utility...” No I’m not, utility means useful, especially through being able to perform several functions. I’m not asking you the usefulness of saying what you said. I’m asking you the purpose or the reason for which something is done. Idc if you think it’s a myth. you are a human not a robot, humans use figurative speech you should understand it. “False. The OP said (and I quote) “everybody understood that envy Needed to be eliminated.” That is false. In other words, the op was mistaken and I was correcting that fallacy.” Strawman, your comment has nothing to do with the statement I said. I never said that your statement is wrong I’m saying that it wasn’t the point of the conversation so there is no reason to bring it up unless you just want to be edgy and nitpick. So that statement is a strawman since it has nothing to do with my statement. “See above about should.” You are not a robot and you should be fully capable of answering my question as even if it doesn’t exist outside the imagination you HAVE a imagination and SHOULD Be able to understand. You are just trying to avoid my argument. “Say what exactly ?” That almost every word is a myth because humans made it up to go with emotions. For example you are doing that with the words should, Requires, Important, Etc. “Nothing ever “requires” (That is a myth) and nothing is ever important (That is a myth.)” Again strawman. instead of trying to actually counter my statement you try to act like you have no imagination and answer by saying that some words are a myth. That has nothing to do with my statement and you are full well of knowing what my statement means. But instead of actually providing a counter argument you try to auto correct me like you can’t understand what I’m saying unless I’m not using any figurative language. “No nothing is ever important to anyone.” Important means of great significance or value; likely to have a profound effect on success, survival, or well-being. Human beings can have value over something so that means that that something is important to them and that means that your statement is false. “Nothing is ever important.” You need to understand that it might not be important to the grand scheme of things but it is important to you and people close to you. If you died in the womb your mother and father might of been heartbroken we. If you had older siblings they would be sad. It’s important to them and your life should be important to you. If that’s egotistical than being egotistical should be good to a degree. You need that in your life so you can be happy. And yes happy is a myth but it doesn’t matter because that tingling that people feel is real. For your last whole thing because I’m too lazy to copy that whole thing, I never said that it wasn’t a myth so you are doing a strawman again. No one in this comment chain have said that it is real. What I am saying is that myths are not a bad thing, Human figurative language and emotions are not bad things. Stop with the strawman bullshit and if you want to prove your point actually say some counter arguments. If not don’t respond back, because next time all I’m going to do is respond by saying which of your statements are of no relevance. Also why do you keep saying that last statement? Is it to be a edgy 38 year old. Or are you just one those people who hate on your own race.
Do *not* try to argue with that guy. He shows up everywhere spouting pseudo intellectual BS, trying, and failing to sound like he's deep and philosophical.
SnowyWolborg Lol Yeah now that I was looking I could see him writing a bunch of edgy comments. He didn’t comment back though so I think I proved him wrong.
"He died sobbing, embarrassed and humiliated that everyone saw his deepest insecurity that he tried to hide with sadism and self superiority." Dude thats cruel. For a moment there Envy got some emphaty from Edward. Even if just very briefly, but he got a tiny bit of what he truly desired in his whole life. Mustang and Scar were sworn enemies, murderers and they hated each other, but they were still able to come in terms with each other. And at the very end Envy experiences the same thing, even though its clear that its the end for him and there is no way back. Thats such a beautiful moment.
In terms of whether or not Envy being in a certain form would be impactful, I disagree. I think killing Envy would have poisoned Mustang either way because it's less about killing Envy and it's about killing the being who killed Hughes. Hughes represented compassion, a sort of naive but hopeful man in a dog eat dog military, and though Mustang often conveyed annoyance, it was clear that Hughes was sort of that moral compass and angel on Mustang's shoulder. And Hughes death hit so hard BECAUSE he was one of not just the good ones, he was one of the BETTER ones. I was with Shane, I wanted Mustang to kill Envy so bad but ultimately I'm glad he didn't because it shouldn't just be avenging Hughes' death; but instead honoring his life. And I think Hughes would have never wanted Mustang to go that far.
Cool stuff and all, but keep in mind Envy could have eventually return to his form and cause even more problems. I wanted Mustang to kill Envy because it would have been the most safe option. The author decided to take the best of both worlds instead, he made Mustang a saint and eliminated the negative concequences of his action by killing Envy anyway. And I honestly think it's cheap.
Ko Enma Eny can't return to his form and cause more problems, since his energy source was almost empty anyways. You do remember how Envy returned to his form in the first place right? There was no way for him to return to his form at this moment. So I have to disagree. This was a good moment in the anime and IMO not forced.
Hawkeye said it herself, if Mustang didn't kill Envy she would have. Sparing Envy was never on the table, it was just they didn't want mustang in particular to do it. Envy killing himself was just a way to bring some sympathy to him and imo was a good conclusion to his character.
Yeah, Envy would have been killed no matter what. It was kinda down to Mustang being the better person and doing the right thing. If he gave into hatred and revenge then he isn't really the right person to lead a country. Mustang leading the country should be to make Amestris a better country. Not a worse one.
Mustang's character arc finally culminated at this pivotal moment. He could've given into complete hatred and vengeance, but with some help from the others, he was able to look "beyond the inferno" of it all. I also love the fact that out of everyone, it was Riza that was able to make Mustang completely stop. It just says so much about their relationship and how much they mean to each other. It's one of the main reasons why I enjoy their dynamic so much.
I would argue that the most important person there was actually Scar-or rather, the reason Riza was successful in talking him down was ONLY because Scar got him to listen to reason. Being from Ishval, Scar represented the hatred and grudges of all the people that Mustang killed in the past. Now imagine if this person-someone YOU YOURSELF very deeply wronged, and whose plight is 10x GREATER THAN YOURS-calmly takes the higher moral ground to talk you down from your heated emotions. Scar's snide remark is his way of reminding Mustang that in the grand scheme of things, his own quest for vengeance is not as important as his promise to restore Ishval-that it is HIS (Mustang's) turn to show that he is capable of breaking the "cycle of vengeance". *Potential spoilers* In fact, Riza says as much in the next episode. She even thanks Scar for volunteering himself to go out of his way to speak up (despite all the things Riza and Mustang had done to his country).
Paracosm Zed Thinking it over again, I agree! What Scar said to Mustang was the first in really snapping him out of it, and then Riza helped him completely stop when he realizes that he hurt her yet again.
Yeah. Scar stopped going down the path of vengeance because he believed that he could "change Amestris". In this instance, he wants to see ACTUAL PROOF that Amestrians are willing to change, and what better way for him to get some evidence than to see how the "future führer" of the county handles his vengeance problem. Scar is challenging Mustang to turn the other cheek in order to get the proof that he's looking for. Stopping the "cycle of vengeance" requires both sides to "turn the other cheek". By getting Mustang to stop, Scar reassures himself that he can get the other side to "turn the cheek" as well.
Paracosm Zed What I also love is how Winry and Miles were the first to break the cycle of hatred, which in turn helped set Scar on a similar path, and now he's basically doing the same with Mustang.
Yeah, it's definitely a running theme. Really makes it that much more powerful when it shows Envy in disbelief of how they can all work together. Such a feel good show. #fullmetalfeels
The Mustang Slaughtering of Envy is the best "character arc" and scene of the entire show. Not only gorgeous animation, but also the entire idea behind it is worth thinking about.
Best characters? I doubt it. They are obviously one of the best characters, but not the best. Riza in fact may just be good, since there are characters who are better in terms of well written characters. In terms of individual characters. Scar is a really strong character and massivly developed. He's on par with Mustang. If I needed to pick one of them, Scar would be better(IMO) since he was developed from a "lone wolf villian" to the person he is now. And his development isn't even forced. In terms of character dynamic. Greed + Ling has a really strong dynamic and IMO even better than the dynamic of Mustand + Riza.
i agree with you teekay mike. riza couldve been fleshed out a bit more. i respect her dedication and loyalty to mustang but i would have preferred if she had a bit more of a personality . kind of like mikasa in AOT, whose entire characterisation revolves around eren. shit gets dull after a while. scar was incredibly written and greedling was genius
bleep blorp I think that they ( riza and mikasa) just becomes attatched to them ( mustang and Eren ) because they don't really have anyone else. Seeing as how they lost their family I wouldn't blame them for being that way. And I certainly don't think that their characters are not well developed just because of this reason.
i disagree. theres nothing wrong with their loyalty, but it completely dictates many aspects of their personality and their choices. beyond those ties, theres little left, and they dont really develop or grow as individuals.
3:22 when Shane says "that's so cool" I'm just wowed by that animation. Somehow they captured like that mental facility within him of Mustang mentally unlocking himself to go even crazier.
The animation in pretty much every scene with Mustang and Envy is just superb. Same for the voice acting. Mustang's VA is just incredible and the same for Envy's
I *really* like that Envy used Ed's full name at the _very_ end. Been calling him Pipsqueak practically the whole show. It's even crazier that Ed was the one to call him jealous in that form. Of course there's other reasons too, but Envy was way smaller-- too small to even throw out insults and you could just see the pity on Ed's face. Everyone in that room showed growth.
By this point he was too far gone to redeem, but I think if someone was able to just show Envy some love earlier, he could have changed. Truly a tragic character.
Honestly my favorite part about this episode is that despite every horrible thing Envy has done (starting the war in Ishval, starting the Lior conflict, killing Hughes) you still feel pity for him when he dies. You’re rooting for Mustang to kill him but then when he actually dies I always feel a little sad. And that’s why I love this anime!
@@LenOnTheDoor0000 The way I see it, the look on Envy's face as Mustang stands over him says it all. I also see him as a tragic character, he never really had a purpose but was always secretly jealous of others. Also people tend to like his character independent of his evil actions, from his cute design to his witty attitude, it can be endearing.
The question isn’t whether Envy deserved the pain and death, or whether Mustang deserved vengeance. It’s like Calvin said, it is crossing a line. Acting out of that much rage and basically enjoying torturing something, regardless of whether the victim deserves it, must cause tremendous psychological changes-just like killing something for the first time. Like if someone committed a heinous crime against your family, I could understand instinctively wanting them to feel as much pain as possible. But if you actually act out these desires, it will become easier to cross that line in the future, and giving into rage even when justified will make you an angrier person in everyday life. That’s why vengeance that feels justified is usually the most dangerous-because you lack remorse over your actions, making you only associate the action with gratification. I’m sure that if someone beat someone to death with their bear fists (say to avenge a loved one in a fit of rage), they would become a more violent person-at least at some deep subconscious level some line has been crossed with no regrets.
It doesnt get mentioned much but the ishvalan conflict resulted in terror attacks occurring in multiple locations throughout Amestris; and it was those terror attacks that publicly lead to the Fuhrer signing a single page document that called for the genocide of the ishvalan people. The embodiment of "Wrath" or in other words, vengeance, did that. And Mustang's whole plan to become Fuhrer was in direct retaliation to that kind of wrathful leadership. So him embodying the traits of Wrath in these moments show how similar to Bradley he might become.
Even though it was great to finally see Envy getting their dues, after a certain point it turned to sadism. And flame alchemy is SO much power that it would allow him to cross that line easily whenever he chooses.
I like that Mustang just bodies the homunculi, no tricks, no random power ups. He's just straight up higher on the power tier, you don't often see that.
kharil hasan old-ass leader of a country walking up on a rebel takeover of his fortress, armed with a sword and a grenade? Yeah, they’re gonna need a whole lotta bodybags
J. White plus it is after they taught they win and suddenly old man voice and bad ass theme appeared. Funny seeing that, my thoughts is those rebel are doomed.
I was hoping they scream plus ultra when armstrong pop his shoulder back hahahaha. Chris Sabit voicing armstrong and All might is such an awesome casting
imo mustang really is freakin OP. with just a flick of a finger he can materialize fire out of thin air, and that is why Riza wanted no one to continue the legacy of being the flame alchemy because someone with that power can be destructive once succumbed to vengeance and power.
Joyfull34 gluttony was eaten, lust was killed by a womanizer, envy killed himself out of pity after realizing he felt envyious of humans, wrath died in peace, sloth died after trying hard to kill The Armstrongs, pride was turned into The most humble being( a baby), greed died sacrificing himself for others.
Mustang doesn't call Hawkeye by her first name when they're alone. After she says this Hawkeye says "I lied but thanks for falling for it" she was just trying to see if envy would reveal himself
There are no bad episodes of FMA:B. Just good episodes and better episodes.. and then there's episodes like this, that leave you in a bloodthirsty rage as you scream for a character's death.
I think the whole thing with Mustang and Envy was mostly about Flame Alchemy itself. Riza does not only follow Mustang out of respect, or love; it's because she went against her father's wishes and gave the secrets of Flame Alchemy to Mustang that she knows she's partly responsable for the innocent lives taken by it, adding to her own actions. So she follows Mustang; to both help him, and to keep a close eye on the one other person who knows of her father's research. So more than just not letting Mustang kill Envy because it would be bad to take revenge, I think it's also about her stepping in to ensure Flame Alchemy would never again be used to quench anybody's bloodthirst. She knows she can't allow a man both consumed by revenge and in possesion of her father's research to lead the country. It's her taking responsability for what's she's done.
why would I need the "universe" to care wether or not I follow any given instinct to help or protect others, or to take responsability for any of my actions harming other people? I don't live my life because it has any significance to the big scale of things. In the big scale of things it's pretty near meaningless. So it takes on any importance I see fit to give it. And thus you can choose to do anything you want. I can "watch [you] drown while eating popcorn" but i wouldn't want to. And that's enough for me to do something about it.
Mats Martensson Thank you for editing your comment and rephrasing your sentence. Still doesn't change the fact of you being incorrect. Organism NEED things, which debunks your argument. This is how the "universe" created us. We don't necessarily(depending on the kind of person you are) "want" to consume, we NEED to consume. Or are you telling me Plants are egotistical and self-deluded, because they "WANT" water? :'D? Mats Martensson == Stupidity at its finest. The fact you are still alive, while writing these dumb ass comments just shows us the type of person you are. Someone who writes shit he doesn't agree with himself(or you would've been dead a long time ago).
I love the 'the colonel calls me riza' moment so much, it's even more badass in the manga were after envy falls for her lie she says 'thanks for believing me so easily, now do me another favour and die' and then shoots him. It's a really really good moment
Blister2Two ur right she does say something very similar it just doesn't feel as impactful to me personally. Still just a really good moment all around
I don't know what she says exactly in the original Japanese version but in my country they translated it as "Colonel calls me 'sweetheart' when we're alone." and it made the scene even more cool.
I would like to add to this discussion. The way I see it, the reason they wanted to stop Mustang from succumbing to his rage was because at this point he was inflicting suffering and torture. Once a man gets lost in that, enjoying the suffering and torture he inflicts, is when a leader is lost. Look at it this way, most of us would not look favorably on an individual who enjoys cutting the wings chickens or one that takes joy in pulling the legs off spiders. He might tell you (excuses) he was trying to provide food with the chicken or getting rid of pest by removing the legs of the spider, but regardless (most of us) would see him as excessively cruel or unreasonably harsh. Add to that mix a man who has, unknowingly to himself at the time of war, massacred innocents. Then you have the makings of a mad king, dictator, leader, etc. One that the public would fear and be ready to revolt against. We find it so easy to crush bugs, just like envy portraits at the end, that we forget the real cost, at our own expense, at taking a sentient life. Remember, at this point envy was not a common "slug", he was an entity that was communicating with them word for word. Killing something like that weights heavy on a person's soul, trust me on that. I don't know about you guys, but for me killing an animal, regardless of reason, would be made exponentially harder if said animal was talking to me as a human being would, even if he/she was Envy. This is just my perspective as a solider who has seen the darkness of war, take it with a grain of salt if you must, because vengeance is very hard to swallow and keep bottled.
Something worth noting is that this was the ONLY time Envy called Ed by his name, rather than pipsqueak or some other name. Also, setting aside the way Mustang was enjoying/prolonging Envy's death, he was also willing to attack Edward, an ally, just for not letting him slaughter Envy.
After Mustang used flame alchemy to commit genocide in Ishval, he made an agreement with Hawkeye to use it only to benefit the country and its people. She is there to watch his back and to kill him if he goes astray. Envy needed to die, but for Mustang to do it with flame alchemy under those circumstances would go against their agreement.
Mats Martensson "^Self-delusion. Or do you have an actual argument that you "need" to survive?" Irrelevant to my point. Organism NEED to consume and your argument was Organism don't NEED things. Yet here we are, you contradicting yourself, while acting as if you are still correct. This is what we call being delusional, which you try so hard to avoid it. Stupidity at its finest.
Great reaction and discussion, crew. That end credits was my favorite out of all of them. When I first saw it, it made me look up the lyrics to Ray of Light, and it became my favorite song from FMAB. It’s basically Hohenheim’s theme.
Also a lil thing so few people notice. If Mustang killed Envy when he planned to, (when Mustang was stepping on him) Mustang would’ve been incinerated right along with Envy. Anything that touches his fire burns along with whatever he was aiming at. So we would’ve seen one of the most gruesome deaths in anime had Hawkeye not stopped him.
Now to wait another... 40-ish weeks until The Normies reach this episode as well, lol. If anyone knows her too, Sammie Kohn, would reach it pretty soon as well.
ok guys so i just randomly stumbled onto this show cause i recently started watching blind wave and my god.. never have i ever felt more empathy and sadness for anything like that little green monster thing with no knowledge on the story. im traumatized.
On episode 17, where Mustang seemingly murders Maria Ross for vengeance, he seems collected and cold, just like when he killed Lust. We later see that he has been scheming to fool the homuculi by "taking" their bait, all that time. That episode is called "Cool-Headed Flames". Episode 53? "Flames of Vengeance".
Mats Martensson Yes, you are absolutely right. For one, I can feel your ego all the way from here, trying to push your life philosophies down my throat without any reason or context.
I really liked this episode. Loved all the character motivations and logic. It reached Hunter X Hunter levels of writing here. "Even" a show like Arrow can't make characters behave logically. Everything Scar said made total sense for example.
I'm like 6 years late to the conversation but I think it's worth pointing out that Hawkeye nearly died to Envy at the beginning of the episode. Mustang could have easily killed him much earlier, but because of his lust to watch Envy suffer, Hawkeye nearly paid the price. As Eric pointed out, Hawkeye stopping Mustang was not about whether Envy dies or not, it's about what consequences will come out of unnecessarily putting yourself and others into danger during the pursuit of revenge. Or greater yet, what consequences come from a president whose entire drive was born out of wrath (**cough** Bradley).
When Mustang burned Lust to death and when he did the same thing with Envy. It was so damned satisfying to watch. A Luffy punching Celestial Dragon level satisfaction. If you know what I mean!😂😂
Next chapter has the most epic anime scene ever ( if you hear the song named ''Next chapter '' you will know what I mean if you have already seen the anime) What a coincidence, isnt it?
I will say that there is a particular line that I prefer in the sub than the dub... "When people ask, I usually say I'm a housewife, but I'm feeling a bit sassy today. So I have decided to shed that particular disguise... I AM AN ALCHEMIST!" I would have loved the English voice actor for Izumi to say that she was feeling a bit sassy...
honestly i like yu yu more but hxh is in its reboot stage right know, its at like ep 83 right know and i realy want yu yu to have more respect cuz i havent seen anyone reacting to it, most people might say hxh is better but i think its better to not compare the two works yu yu is still a great series non the less
Im just here to say this that envy death scene in japanese is more emotional and captivating and the emotion to voice and lastly the part where envy said "Goodbye Edward Elric" in Dub it sounds like envy is scaring Ed but in Sub(Japanese) envy said " Bye-bye Edward Elric" Envy sounds like his thankful for Ed and not scaring him
Took a week (Quite rare that it's that dry even where I live)but managed to find some. Was worth the wait aswell because this is the best I've had in a while.
i know its foolish and you guys may not agree but i actually liked envy towards the end and saw hope for a turn around but i suppose it wouldnt happen. I did cry at his death though
yeah i get it, but ed, scar, riza, eric, calvin & aaron more make sense to me. don't get me wrong i enjoyed shane's reaction about roy, but we're just not in the same boat hehe.
Eric is like the perfect reactor. He understood the whole message behind Mustang vs. Envy scene as opposed to getting irritated that he didn't just kill him, he knew right away that Armstrong used Sloth to pop his shoulder into place, he remembered Izumi was in Briggs's prison and knew she was the one who helped them get into central command, and he caught on to the symbolism from the shot of Father's reflection through that flask.
You can tell he truly appreciates this anime and all of its glory :D
Sam Korican He really does pay attention to the story. That's why it's my favorite reacting channel too.
Agree. But I'd say Calvin's more emotionally invested in the show, notice how his facial expression changes from scene to scene? And I think he's eyes actually turned watery in the envy scene...
*+Jake Liu* Agreed. Calvin is the most emotional invested in the show, Eric just pays a lot of attention to details and truly appreciates the show because of that.
Eric is rewatching the earlier episodes of the series as he mentions in episode 55 which is currently up on Patreon. That's why a lot of what has happened is fresh in his mind. Don't be too hard on the others, many of these episodes were filmed weeks in advance to give themselves and their editors adequate time for both editing and for Early Access. In the most recent reaction of The Flash, Eric mentions an MHA character's powers that was 2 episodes away from what was already on Early Access Patreon. But yes, Shane is always one to see things simpler than the others. He doesn't see a reason not to kill a monster which is single-handedly responsible for a war and subsequent genocide amongst other atrocities, and he doesn't think doing it once will change him. I think otherwise but that's me.
agree, not like Shane
Riza was fulfilling the promise she made to Mustang after the war. She was willing to shoot him after seeing him stray from the path he intended. Love their dynamic.
jaime ruiz but they made the promise after the war
jaime ruiz AFTER THE WAR
jaime ruiz im just gonna guess that u hate these two characters considering every reply u do is about arguing how these two could have died earlier or how their relationship doesnt make sense or something along those lines, if u think that this is such horrible writing then why do u even watch reactions to this episode, your the one who doesnt make sense
Envy started a war by killing an innocent child, murdered Maes Hughes and countless other people, constantly bragged and laughed about what he did, looked down on others... and when he died...
...I felt sorry for him.
That is some outstanding writing right there.
really?
i had the biggest grin on my face when he was about to die.
Right? He didn't ask to be the way he was. He probably didn't even have the capacity to change.
It's in his character. He doesn't want to be someone's "possession," hence his rebellious nature.
well it's because greeds all about himself and dosn't listen to father or the others and also being in the same mind as ling might have helped
sure he was created and didnt choose to be a monster, but he still needed to die so many others innocent wouldnt
That scene with mustang basically shows that travis willingham is one of the best voice actors ever in terms of pure emotion
You_Just_Got_Sarged This, and infamous second son.
It's weird that I know him best as a huge raging dimwit with a beard, and a Texan Half-Orc.
I hope people understand that Riza didn't stop Roy killing Envy out of pity or mercy. Everybody understood that Envy needed to be eliminated. But the way in which he was doing it wasn't like with Lust when he was protecting someone with controlled fury. This was just rage fuelled vengeance for self satisfaction. Riza trusted Roy with her father's alchemy on the grounds that he would use it to protect, not to destroy. Also, Envy's death was so amazing, just due to how pathetic it was. He died sobbing, embarrassed and humiliated that everyone saw his deepest insecurity that he tried to hide with sadism and self superiority.
Mats Martensson
You should realize just because it’s correct doesn’t mean that it’s not edgy. You are acting like, whether you are aware of it or not, some edgy teenager.
For example what purpose did you have for saying that nothing ever “needs” to be anything. It served no purpose to the conversation at all as that wasn’t the point of the argument. It was actually just a figure of speech, not everything should be taken literally. I assume you are smart enough to know that so the only possible answer for writing down that comment that I could think of is that you are trying to be edgy.
Your argument is flawed anyway as you can say that for almost anything. Also need means require (something) because it is essential or very important. So really a person could NEED anything as long as it’s important to them. As keeping everybody alive was important to mustang and the rest they Needed to kill Envy.
One more thing I mean does it matter if we made it up? It seems like you are viewing the concepts of value, importance, law and all the other stuff we made up like it’s a bad thing. Which it is definitely not.
Mats Martensson
“False “should” is a myth”
I’m gonna stop you right there you are nitpicking. what I mean by nitpicking is looking for small or unimportant errors or faults, especially in order to criticize unnecessarily. It doesn’t matter if it’s a myth or not that is the literal definition of the word. As I said saying should shouldn’t matter to the conversation at all. You are looking for small or unimportant errors to criticize people unnecessary and I find that to be you being edgy and you intentionally misrepresenting the proposition that i set up because its easier to defeat than my real argument. Another word for that is strawman.
“I don’t care what you feel about it. It’s logic.”
You obviously care enough to type about it. Also I never said that it wasn’t logic, I specifically said that you were correct about it being logic so I don’t know why you feel to have the need (yes I’m saying need it’s figurative speech.) to state it again. My point is that it’s still edgy.
“I’m 38. I don’t care what you feel I act like.”
You care enough to type this so..
“None since purpose is another myth, you’re thinking utility...”
No I’m not, utility means useful, especially through being able to perform several functions. I’m not asking you the usefulness of saying what you said. I’m asking you the purpose or the reason for which something is done. Idc if you think it’s a myth. you are a human not a robot, humans use figurative speech you should understand it.
“False. The OP said (and I quote) “everybody understood that envy
Needed to be eliminated.” That is false. In other words, the op was mistaken and I was correcting that fallacy.”
Strawman, your comment has nothing to do with the statement I said. I never said that your statement is wrong I’m saying that it wasn’t the point of the conversation so there is no reason to bring it up unless you just want to be edgy and nitpick. So that statement is a strawman since it has nothing to do with my statement.
“See above about should.”
You are not a robot and you should be fully capable of answering my question as even if it doesn’t exist outside the imagination you HAVE a imagination and SHOULD Be able to understand. You are just trying to avoid my argument.
“Say what exactly ?”
That almost every word is a myth because humans made it up to go with emotions. For example you are doing that with the words should, Requires, Important, Etc.
“Nothing ever “requires” (That is a myth) and nothing is ever important (That is a myth.)”
Again strawman. instead of trying to actually counter my statement you try to act like you have no imagination and answer by saying that some words are a myth. That has nothing to do with my statement and you are full well of knowing what my statement means. But instead of actually providing a counter argument you try to auto correct me like you can’t understand what I’m saying unless I’m not using any figurative language.
“No nothing is ever important to anyone.”
Important means of great significance or value; likely to have a profound effect on success, survival, or well-being. Human beings can have value over something so that means that that something is important to them and that means that your statement is false.
“Nothing is ever important.”
You need to understand that it might not be important to the grand scheme of things but it is important to you and people close to you. If you died in the womb your mother and father might of been heartbroken we. If you had older siblings they would be sad. It’s important to them and your life should be important to you. If that’s egotistical than being egotistical should be good to a degree. You need that in your life so you can be happy. And yes happy is a myth but it doesn’t matter because that tingling that people feel is real.
For your last whole thing because I’m too lazy to copy that whole thing, I never said that it wasn’t a myth so you are doing a strawman again. No one in this comment chain have said that it is real. What I am saying is that myths are not a bad thing, Human figurative language and emotions are not bad things.
Stop with the strawman bullshit and if you want to prove your point actually say some counter arguments. If not don’t respond back, because next time all I’m going to do is respond by saying which of your statements are of no relevance. Also why do you keep saying that last statement? Is it to be a edgy 38 year old. Or are you just one those people who hate on your own race.
Do *not* try to argue with that guy. He shows up everywhere spouting pseudo intellectual BS, trying, and failing to sound like he's deep and philosophical.
SnowyWolborg Lol Yeah now that I was looking I could see him writing a bunch of edgy comments.
He didn’t comment back though so I think I proved him wrong.
"He died sobbing, embarrassed and humiliated that everyone saw his deepest insecurity that he tried to hide with sadism and self superiority."
Dude thats cruel. For a moment there Envy got some emphaty from Edward. Even if just very briefly, but he got a tiny bit of what he truly desired in his whole life. Mustang and Scar were sworn enemies, murderers and they hated each other, but they were still able to come in terms with each other. And at the very end Envy experiences the same thing, even though its clear that its the end for him and there is no way back. Thats such a beautiful moment.
19:07 I think they forgot that Hawkeye said "I lied"
Yeah, I think so.
yeah they missed that
In terms of whether or not Envy being in a certain form would be impactful, I disagree. I think killing Envy would have poisoned Mustang either way because it's less about killing Envy and it's about killing the being who killed Hughes. Hughes represented compassion, a sort of naive but hopeful man in a dog eat dog military, and though Mustang often conveyed annoyance, it was clear that Hughes was sort of that moral compass and angel on Mustang's shoulder. And Hughes death hit so hard BECAUSE he was one of not just the good ones, he was one of the BETTER ones.
I was with Shane, I wanted Mustang to kill Envy so bad but ultimately I'm glad he didn't because it shouldn't just be avenging Hughes' death; but instead honoring his life. And I think Hughes would have never wanted Mustang to go that far.
Cool stuff and all, but keep in mind Envy could have eventually return to his form and cause even more problems. I wanted Mustang to kill Envy because it would have been the most safe option. The author decided to take the best of both worlds instead, he made Mustang a saint and eliminated the negative concequences of his action by killing Envy anyway. And I honestly think it's cheap.
Yeah, they were even aiming for no casualty during the last episodes.
Ko Enma
Eny can't return to his form and cause more problems, since his energy source was almost empty anyways. You do remember how Envy returned to his form in the first place right? There was no way for him to return to his form at this moment. So I have to disagree. This was a good moment in the anime and IMO not forced.
Hawkeye said it herself, if Mustang didn't kill Envy she would have. Sparing Envy was never on the table, it was just they didn't want mustang in particular to do it. Envy killing himself was just a way to bring some sympathy to him and imo was a good conclusion to his character.
Yeah, Envy would have been killed no matter what. It was kinda down to Mustang being the better person and doing the right thing. If he gave into hatred and revenge then he isn't really the right person to lead a country. Mustang leading the country should be to make Amestris a better country. Not a worse one.
Mustang's character arc finally culminated at this pivotal moment. He could've given into complete hatred and vengeance, but with some help from the others, he was able to look "beyond the inferno" of it all.
I also love the fact that out of everyone, it was Riza that was able to make Mustang completely stop. It just says so much about their relationship and how much they mean to each other. It's one of the main reasons why I enjoy their dynamic so much.
I would argue that the most important person there was actually Scar-or rather, the reason Riza was successful in talking him down was ONLY because Scar got him to listen to reason.
Being from Ishval, Scar represented the hatred and grudges of all the people that Mustang killed in the past. Now imagine if this person-someone YOU YOURSELF very deeply wronged, and whose plight is 10x GREATER THAN YOURS-calmly takes the higher moral ground to talk you down from your heated emotions. Scar's snide remark is his way of reminding Mustang that in the grand scheme of things, his own quest for vengeance is not as important as his promise to restore Ishval-that it is HIS (Mustang's) turn to show that he is capable of breaking the "cycle of vengeance".
*Potential spoilers*
In fact, Riza says as much in the next episode. She even thanks Scar for volunteering himself to go out of his way to speak up (despite all the things Riza and Mustang had done to his country).
Paracosm Zed Thinking it over again, I agree! What Scar said to Mustang was the first in really snapping him out of it, and then Riza helped him completely stop when he realizes that he hurt her yet again.
Yeah. Scar stopped going down the path of vengeance because he believed that he could "change Amestris". In this instance, he wants to see ACTUAL PROOF that Amestrians are willing to change, and what better way for him to get some evidence than to see how the "future führer" of the county handles his vengeance problem.
Scar is challenging Mustang to turn the other cheek in order to get the proof that he's looking for. Stopping the "cycle of vengeance" requires both sides to "turn the other cheek". By getting Mustang to stop, Scar reassures himself that he can get the other side to "turn the cheek" as well.
Paracosm Zed What I also love is how Winry and Miles were the first to break the cycle of hatred, which in turn helped set Scar on a similar path, and now he's basically doing the same with Mustang.
Yeah, it's definitely a running theme. Really makes it that much more powerful when it shows Envy in disbelief of how they can all work together. Such a feel good show. #fullmetalfeels
The Mustang Slaughtering of Envy is the best "character arc" and scene of the entire show.
Not only gorgeous animation, but also the entire idea behind it is worth thinking about.
Mustang and Riza are the best characters in this show honestly. I really love them.
Best characters? I doubt it. They are obviously one of the best characters, but not the best. Riza in fact may just be good, since there are characters who are better in terms of well written characters.
In terms of individual characters. Scar is a really strong character and massivly developed. He's on par with Mustang. If I needed to pick one of them, Scar would be better(IMO) since he was developed from a "lone wolf villian" to the person he is now. And his development isn't even forced.
In terms of character dynamic. Greed + Ling has a really strong dynamic and IMO even better than the dynamic of Mustand + Riza.
i agree with you teekay mike. riza couldve been fleshed out a bit more. i respect her dedication and loyalty to mustang but i would have preferred if she had a bit more of a personality . kind of like mikasa in AOT, whose entire characterisation revolves around eren. shit gets dull after a while. scar was incredibly written and greedling was genius
bleep blorp I think that they ( riza and mikasa) just becomes attatched to them ( mustang and Eren ) because they don't really have anyone else. Seeing as how they lost their family I wouldn't blame them for being that way. And I certainly don't think that their characters are not well developed just because of this reason.
i disagree. theres nothing wrong with their loyalty, but it completely dictates many aspects of their personality and their choices. beyond those ties, theres little left, and they dont really develop or grow as individuals.
bleep blorp well maybe it's because I've been through similar situation as them that I agree with the behavior that they have for their loved ones.
3:22 when Shane says "that's so cool" I'm just wowed by that animation. Somehow they captured like that mental facility within him of Mustang mentally unlocking himself to go even crazier.
The animation in pretty much every scene with Mustang and Envy is just superb. Same for the voice acting. Mustang's VA is just incredible and the same for Envy's
cdbriggs I never forgot Wendy Powell’s name (or voice) after she voiced Envy. So fucking good.
Woah, I didn't expect to see you here!
Had to do a double take. Lmfao what's up, PD? Also, I agree. The animation and the voice acting in that second was incredible.
I *really* like that Envy used Ed's full name at the _very_ end. Been calling him Pipsqueak practically the whole show. It's even crazier that Ed was the one to call him jealous in that form. Of course there's other reasons too, but Envy was way smaller-- too small to even throw out insults and you could just see the pity on Ed's face.
Everyone in that room showed growth.
By this point he was too far gone to redeem, but I think if someone was able to just show Envy some love earlier, he could have changed. Truly a tragic character.
I have never seen snapping your fingers be more badass lol
If Mustang had killed Envy in that state, he would just become the next Wrath after Bradley is gone. In the end, the Fuhrer would still be Wrath.
Honestly my favorite part about this episode is that despite every horrible thing Envy has done (starting the war in Ishval, starting the Lior conflict, killing Hughes) you still feel pity for him when he dies. You’re rooting for Mustang to kill him but then when he actually dies I always feel a little sad. And that’s why I love this anime!
I don’t. Where on earth does this sense of pity toward Envy come from? He was a monster who died a pathetic death.
@@LenOnTheDoor0000 pity isn't necessarily something earned in the same way empathy is. nor is it a compliment
@@adambomber3384 I know but there’s always people talking about how they end up feeling bad for Envy as he dies and I’m just thinking why?
@@LenOnTheDoor0000 The way I see it, the look on Envy's face as Mustang stands over him says it all. I also see him as a tragic character, he never really had a purpose but was always secretly jealous of others.
Also people tend to like his character independent of his evil actions, from his cute design to his witty attitude, it can be endearing.
Eric, yes. Izumi (the teacher) was the one with the red eyes, because her bathroom slippers were also in that same scene.
it reminds a line from the hateful 8, something along "if it's with passion it's not justice"
@jaime ruiz Crossing a line is not justice
The question isn’t whether Envy deserved the pain and death, or whether Mustang deserved vengeance. It’s like Calvin said, it is crossing a line. Acting out of that much rage and basically enjoying torturing something, regardless of whether the victim deserves it, must cause tremendous psychological changes-just like killing something for the first time. Like if someone committed a heinous crime against your family, I could understand instinctively wanting them to feel as much pain as possible. But if you actually act out these desires, it will become easier to cross that line in the future, and giving into rage even when justified will make you an angrier person in everyday life.
That’s why vengeance that feels justified is usually the most dangerous-because you lack remorse over your actions, making you only associate the action with gratification. I’m sure that if someone beat someone to death with their bear fists (say to avenge a loved one in a fit of rage), they would become a more violent person-at least at some deep subconscious level some line has been crossed with no regrets.
Pookz preached
Bullshit. Mustang shoulda just torched Envy in Ed’s hand and told off Riza for daring to stop him.
It doesnt get mentioned much but the ishvalan conflict resulted in terror attacks occurring in multiple locations throughout Amestris; and it was those terror attacks that publicly lead to the Fuhrer signing a single page document that called for the genocide of the ishvalan people. The embodiment of "Wrath" or in other words, vengeance, did that. And Mustang's whole plan to become Fuhrer was in direct retaliation to that kind of wrathful leadership. So him embodying the traits of Wrath in these moments show how similar to Bradley he might become.
"I see...you're jealous, aren't you...you're jealous of humans, aren't you?"
Envy really made me feel mixed feelings there lol
yeah he made me feel mixed feelings
Nah, I was just happy
Man. The waiting for these upcoming reactions is sooooooooo hard.. I would pay to see them all now, hahaha.
Floris Kunst I know. I’d definitely pop down a few shackles for a package of the last ten episodes coming up lol
Even though it was great to finally see Envy getting their dues, after a certain point it turned to sadism. And flame alchemy is SO much power that it would allow him to cross that line easily whenever he chooses.
I guess as someone who has dealt with self-loathing in the past, Envy's death hit me harder than most.
I like that Mustang just bodies the homunculi, no tricks, no random power ups. He's just straight up higher on the power tier, you don't often see that.
Envy calling Ed by his full name instead pipsqueak when he dies always gets me.
Couldn't wait for Bradley reappearance. The most badass scene in history of anime imo.
kharil hasan old-ass leader of a country walking up on a rebel takeover of his fortress, armed with a sword and a grenade? Yeah, they’re gonna need a whole lotta bodybags
J. White plus it is after they taught they win and suddenly old man voice and bad ass theme appeared. Funny seeing that, my thoughts is those rebel are doomed.
That MUSIC. THAT ANIMATION! This is the pinnacle of the show. Has to be.
Beyond The Inferno.
"So, will you follow me?"
"I'll follow you into hell if you ask me to." but not beyond it. She can't let him go beyond it.
I was hoping they scream plus ultra when armstrong pop his shoulder back hahahaha.
Chris Sabit voicing armstrong and All might is such an awesome casting
My favorite character with the best death. RIP Envy.
I think Envy's real form is very cute, I want that as a key chain!
The only good thing about Monday mornings is this reaction, thanks for making me get out of bed
imo mustang really is freakin OP. with just a flick of a finger he can materialize fire out of thin air, and that is why Riza wanted no one to continue the legacy of being the flame alchemy because someone with that power can be destructive once succumbed to vengeance and power.
Detective Calvin beter pull his shit together and start noticing that homunculi deaths symbolism. What happend to that thoughtful brain goddammit?
Malvina Pyero care to explain for a non-detective like me please?
Joyfull34 gluttony was eaten, lust was killed by a womanizer, envy killed himself out of pity after realizing he felt envyious of humans, wrath died in peace, sloth died after trying hard to kill The Armstrongs, pride was turned into The most humble being( a baby), greed died sacrificing himself for others.
Luis Henrique oh yeah when you list the deaths out like that it really is obvious haha, thanks!
Joyfull34 you're welcome men, It took me a while to realize that too
Luis Henrique I never noticed that. That's actually really beautiful.
Mustang doesn't call Hawkeye by her first name when they're alone. After she says this Hawkeye says "I lied but thanks for falling for it" she was just trying to see if envy would reveal himself
There are no bad episodes of FMA:B. Just good episodes and better episodes.. and then there's episodes like this, that leave you in a bloodthirsty rage as you scream for a character's death.
only 10 more episodes, weve been watching this for over a year now. these last few episodes are gonna get crazy.
How accurate can Eric be! yep, greed wants what father wants.
16:42 i love when shane tell story about mark
I think the whole thing with Mustang and Envy was mostly about Flame Alchemy itself. Riza does not only follow Mustang out of respect, or love; it's because she went against her father's wishes and gave the secrets of Flame Alchemy to Mustang that she knows she's partly responsable for the innocent lives taken by it, adding to her own actions. So she follows Mustang; to both help him, and to keep a close eye on the one other person who knows of her father's research. So more than just not letting Mustang kill Envy because it would be bad to take revenge, I think it's also about her stepping in to ensure Flame Alchemy would never again be used to quench anybody's bloodthirst. She knows she can't allow a man both consumed by revenge and in possesion of her father's research to lead the country. It's her taking responsability for what's she's done.
..................................................ok
why would I need the "universe" to care wether or not I follow any given instinct to help or protect others, or to take responsability for any of my actions harming other people?
I don't live my life because it has any significance to the big scale of things. In the big scale of things it's pretty near meaningless. So it takes on any importance I see fit to give it. And thus you can choose to do anything you want.
I can "watch [you] drown while eating popcorn" but i wouldn't want to. And that's enough for me to do something about it.
Mats Martensson
"Correct."
Thank you for admitting it. You just agreed your argument was incorrect.
Mats Martensson
Thank you for editing your comment and rephrasing your sentence. Still doesn't change the fact of you being incorrect. Organism NEED things, which debunks your argument. This is how the "universe" created us. We don't necessarily(depending on the kind of person you are) "want" to consume, we NEED to consume. Or are you telling me Plants are egotistical and self-deluded, because they "WANT" water? :'D?
Mats Martensson == Stupidity at its finest.
The fact you are still alive, while writing these dumb ass comments just shows us the type of person you are. Someone who writes shit he doesn't agree with himself(or you would've been dead a long time ago).
Finally! In the next episode starts the best sequence of action!
Ahhh can't wait till they react to the next episode. The legendary episode 55 manliest bromance ever.
About time for the most amazing bromance. You don't think that Izumi came alone?
I love the 'the colonel calls me riza' moment so much, it's even more badass in the manga were after envy falls for her lie she says 'thanks for believing me so easily, now do me another favour and die' and then shoots him. It's a really really good moment
Callie pretty sure she says it here to. Was just cut from the reaction
Blister2Two ur right she does say something very similar it just doesn't feel as impactful to me personally. Still just a really good moment all around
I don't know what she says exactly in the original Japanese version but in my country they translated it as "Colonel calls me 'sweetheart' when we're alone." and it made the scene even more cool.
I would like to add to this discussion.
The way I see it, the reason they wanted to stop Mustang from succumbing to his rage was because at this point he was inflicting suffering and torture.
Once a man gets lost in that, enjoying the suffering and torture he inflicts, is when a leader is lost.
Look at it this way, most of us would not look favorably on an individual who enjoys cutting the wings chickens or one that takes joy in pulling the legs off spiders. He might tell you (excuses) he was trying to provide food with the chicken or getting rid of pest by removing the legs of the spider, but regardless (most of us) would see him as excessively cruel or unreasonably harsh.
Add to that mix a man who has, unknowingly to himself at the time of war, massacred innocents. Then you have the makings of a mad king, dictator, leader, etc. One that the public would fear and be ready to revolt against.
We find it so easy to crush bugs, just like envy portraits at the end, that we forget the real cost, at our own expense, at taking a sentient life. Remember, at this point envy was not a common "slug", he was an entity that was communicating with them word for word. Killing something like that weights heavy on a person's soul, trust me on that. I don't know about you guys, but for me killing an animal, regardless of reason, would be made exponentially harder if said animal was talking to me as a human being would, even if he/she was Envy. This is just my perspective as a solider who has seen the darkness of war, take it with a grain of salt if you must, because vengeance is very hard to swallow and keep bottled.
Something worth noting is that this was the ONLY time Envy called Ed by his name, rather than pipsqueak or some other name. Also, setting aside the way Mustang was enjoying/prolonging Envy's death, he was also willing to attack Edward, an ally, just for not letting him slaughter Envy.
I remember when I watched the end with japanese voice, it gave me goosebumps hearing her voice.
Top ten episode and moment of the entire show. God this show is amazing.
After Mustang used flame alchemy to commit genocide in Ishval, he made an agreement with Hawkeye to use it only to benefit the country and its people. She is there to watch his back and to kill him if he goes astray. Envy needed to die, but for Mustang to do it with flame alchemy under those circumstances would go against their agreement.
Mats Martensson
^Stupidity at its finest
Mats Martensson
"^Self-delusion. Or do you have an actual argument that you "need" to survive?"
Irrelevant to my point. Organism NEED to consume and your argument was Organism don't NEED things. Yet here we are, you contradicting yourself, while acting as if you are still correct.
This is what we call being delusional, which you try so hard to avoid it.
Stupidity at its finest.
I always felt bad for Mustang in this episode because i could feel his pain
Great reaction and discussion, crew. That end credits was my favorite out of all of them. When I first saw it, it made me look up the lyrics to Ray of Light, and it became my favorite song from FMAB. It’s basically Hohenheim’s theme.
It is not that envy deserves to live. But, that mustangs consience does.
This episode was just... amazing!
Izumi is a candidate because just like Alphose and Ed has tried to bring a human back to life by opening the portal and seen the truth.
Also a lil thing so few people notice. If Mustang killed Envy when he planned to, (when Mustang was stepping on him) Mustang would’ve been incinerated right along with Envy. Anything that touches his fire burns along with whatever he was aiming at. So we would’ve seen one of the most gruesome deaths in anime had Hawkeye not stopped him.
It's HERE! I've been waiting for this reaction from the beginning. What a tent pole episode
Oh snap!
*leaves in shame*
I didn't get this for a solid second before it hit me.
Don't worry... I won't roast you for this ;)
Shane's so bloodthirsty. :P
I felt that the homunculus in the flask was a metaphorical expression that it is now in a flask in the shape of a human.
I fell asleep with my eyes open once, it was really weird because I saw the light in the room shift dramatically.
Armstrong's punching scene reminded me of Hajime no Ippo. Another anime that they should watch.
Next episode: "Greetings, I'm back."
Mustang and greedling are hands down the best
Sorry to take away from your satisfaction Eric but Hawkeye said she was lying when Envy said that they were that close.
they are pretty close still lol but yeah
Now to wait another... 40-ish weeks until The Normies reach this episode as well, lol.
If anyone knows her too, Sammie Kohn, would reach it pretty soon as well.
Sammie is awesome, I watched her go through RWBY
Seeing your guys' reactions to Envy getting beat up like crap was so satisfactory!!
Awesome, now I want you to see 56 😄
I love this episode, great reaction!
3:20 that I think is the best scream I've ever heard
ok guys so i just randomly stumbled onto this show cause i recently started watching blind wave and my god.. never have i ever felt more empathy and sadness for anything like that little green monster thing with no knowledge on the story. im traumatized.
*+Just a Dream* Now go watch the full show, you won’t regret it, it’s on Netflix. :D
Watch the rest of it! You will enjoy it a whole lot!
i am im on episode 43 now i love it
I love how it looks like Roy was composing when killing Envy.
I've been waiting for your reaction to this episode since you started watching this.
I just realised how similar all might and Armstrongs voices are
Well they have the same voice actors
@@daddy_.rome0 dude you got the joke
@@zemineriver8043 lol sorry 😂. I didn't know you were being sarcastic
On episode 17, where Mustang seemingly murders Maria Ross for vengeance, he seems collected and cold, just like when he killed Lust. We later see that he has been scheming to fool the homuculi by "taking" their bait, all that time. That episode is called "Cool-Headed Flames".
Episode 53? "Flames of Vengeance".
Mats Martensson Yes, you are absolutely right. For one, I can feel your ego all the way from here, trying to push your life philosophies down my throat without any reason or context.
I really liked this episode. Loved all the character motivations and logic.
It reached Hunter X Hunter levels of writing here. "Even" a show like Arrow can't make characters behave logically. Everything Scar said made total sense for example.
ten more weeks
I'm like 6 years late to the conversation but I think it's worth pointing out that Hawkeye nearly died to Envy at the beginning of the episode. Mustang could have easily killed him much earlier, but because of his lust to watch Envy suffer, Hawkeye nearly paid the price.
As Eric pointed out, Hawkeye stopping Mustang was not about whether Envy dies or not, it's about what consequences will come out of unnecessarily putting yourself and others into danger during the pursuit of revenge. Or greater yet, what consequences come from a president whose entire drive was born out of wrath (**cough** Bradley).
When Mustang burned Lust to death and when he did the same thing with Envy. It was so damned satisfying to watch. A Luffy punching Celestial Dragon level satisfaction. If you know what I mean!😂😂
Damn, thought this episode was going to end with "greetings, I'm back".
Riza and Roy have a few noir romance type moments , like I'm curled under a blanket crying telling her not to do it
The eyes say everything here.
Mustang's eyes were not the eyes of somebody who would be satisfied after achieving his vengeance.
Next chapter has the most epic anime scene ever ( if you hear the song named ''Next chapter '' you will know what I mean if you have already seen the anime) What a coincidence, isnt it?
the moment we've all been waiting for has arrived!
I will say that there is a particular line that I prefer in the sub than the dub...
"When people ask, I usually say I'm a housewife, but I'm feeling a bit sassy today. So I have decided to shed that particular disguise... I AM AN ALCHEMIST!"
I would have loved the English voice actor for Izumi to say that she was feeling a bit sassy...
“Chris Sawbawt” I cant stop laughing 😂
you guys should watch yu yu hakusho when this is finished, its a great series
Candy or hunter x hunter. It's by the same writer and most people agree it's better than yu yu.
honestly i like yu yu more but hxh is in its reboot stage right know, its at like ep 83 right know and i realy want yu yu to have more respect cuz i havent seen anyone reacting to it, most people might say hxh is better but i think its better to not compare the two works yu yu is still a great series non the less
Candy hxh is actually at ep 148
im talking about the dub if they actually decided to watch hxh it would be the dub
bruh they're not gonna do 83 eps at once. by the time they reach that point, the show will be finished.
7:02 God Fuck I know Envy is evil and stuff but fuck that voice acting had me balling for 3 damn months
Im just here to say this that envy death scene in japanese is more emotional and captivating and the emotion to voice and lastly the part where envy said "Goodbye Edward Elric" in Dub it sounds like envy is scaring Ed but in Sub(Japanese) envy said " Bye-bye Edward Elric" Envy sounds like his thankful for Ed and not scaring him
I just sparked my morning blunt.... This is lovely
*glances at Mustang* That ain't the only sparks going off here.
And here I've been waiting to get some weed for the past 3 days. Oh well, the wait continues. Reaction was great tho.
lol if only you lived near me i would sell ya some
Took a week (Quite rare that it's that dry even where I live)but managed to find some. Was worth the wait aswell because this is the best I've had in a while.
Hawkit *as I smoke my 4am blunt*
As emotionally shocking as Envy's death was, I felt no sympathy for that evil little bastard
i know its foolish and you guys may not agree but i actually liked envy towards the end and saw hope for a turn around but i suppose it wouldnt happen. I did cry at his death though
Mustang had to overcome his wrath in order to remain a good leader, a leader that could replace Bradley - aka, Wrath.
Watching Roy fight makes me wish they at least checked the Roy vs Ed fight in the original anime lol
i just noticed the army of porgs lol
Cue the song "Symphony of Destruction"
we can see their personality just by seen them react to an anime, fmab really awesome !! and shane, you disappointed me man.
Geek Streak yup,just like how people who play Undertale,it does reflect their personalities
yeah i get it, but ed, scar, riza, eric, calvin & aaron more make sense to me. don't get me wrong i enjoyed shane's reaction about roy, but we're just not in the same boat hehe.
nathaliee pacifist !! :)
Shane is an angry angry guy. Hope he finds some peace within himself soon.
PaX MalombellA How so?
7:51 goodbye brother(I'm not sorry)
I didn't get notified of this video
[edit] nvm, I just got it, 39 minutes late.