Voice Notes - The Ghost Monument

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  • @jasonhowle1821
    @jasonhowle1821 3 роки тому +46

    How did we go from RTD and Moffat to Chibnall?! It's like going from The Beatles to The Cheeky Girls.

    • @JontyLevine
      @JontyLevine 3 роки тому +5

      Chibnall is like a shitty Beatles cover band that “improves” the old songs by playing them with a more diverse lineup. But you _wish_ it was just the songs, because every single concert is dragged out by them pausing between songs to lecture their audience about social issues.

  • @allanjohnstone5258
    @allanjohnstone5258 3 роки тому +18

    I have only seen this episode once, yet the stupidity of this scene has stuck with me! 😂😂😂

  • @nightowl8477
    @nightowl8477 3 роки тому +38

    I got the impression that 13 told everyone to dig so when they fell on their backs they'd be beneath the flammable air?? Because, you know, gas is known to take hours to spread.

    • @cameron9385
      @cameron9385 3 роки тому +5

      Is that sarcasm or actual science? I genuinely can't tell!

    • @JackWolf10
      @JackWolf10  3 роки тому +13

      Oh damn you might be right with that. Although I think that's now raised more questions than it answered.

    • @nightowl8477
      @nightowl8477 3 роки тому +4

      @@JackWolf10 - exactly, it's dumb either way.

    • @LabradorIndependent
      @LabradorIndependent 3 роки тому +14

      But then you see them on the ground, they're not in a trench, they're just sort of flat on the sand

    • @BambiTrout
      @BambiTrout 3 роки тому +6

      Even with that, surely they'd still be a bit singed from the heat alone? Like they didn't even cover their faces. They'd be seeing colours in their vision for a while after an explosion at night inches from their faces.

  • @JontyLevine
    @JontyLevine 3 роки тому +22

    As Wikipedia will tell you, acetylene burns at over 3300 degrees C - the third highest of any chemical compound.
    I think the writers of this episode were _so damn determined_ to give their audience a stupid little science lesson, they didn’t actually bother to learn the science themselves.
    And yes, I’m pretty sure that was the reason for mentioning acetylene this scene. It would have been so easy for them to use some fictional substance that miraculously burns without harming them, and not the name of a real-world chemical. Writers don’t just include these details the no reason. And I can’t think of any other reason than them possibly wanting to teach kids about science, with the ultimate purpose of establishing the Doctor (a woman) as a person who can do cool stuff with science, and maybe also inspiring the young generation to think that other women can do the same.
    That may sound like a stretch, but it’s starting to look like a pattern. A similar thing happens in _The Tsuranga Conundrum_ when antimatter made its way into the script somehow. The Doctor gets to sound really smart when explaining it to the audience (though in reality she sounded condescending). The way it is generated, and the way it powers the ship have no further significance in that episode’s plot. Again, they didn’t have to use real-world science, but they chose to, even when it made the episode noticeably worse. And doesn’t that just speak volumes?

    • @timrosswood4259
      @timrosswood4259 3 роки тому +1

      Is there something wrong about Doctor who being a SCIENCE-fiction show?

    • @JontyLevine
      @JontyLevine 3 роки тому +6

      I see your point, but I’d argue that’s the main difference between hard and soft sci-fi. Doctor Who is not The Expanse, or even Star Trek (which is kind of in the middle). It’s a show that requires you to suspend disbelief about _a lot_ of impossible things. And if that suspension of disbelief would be broken by trying to explain those things with real-world science, then bringing up said science - in the actual lines the characters say - is bad writing.
      It would be like if a Star Trek character analysed the air of a planet and declared it to less than 1% oxygen - inhospitable to life… _after_ having taken off her helmet and experienced no ill effects. I mean, in one sense it’s more realistic for the planet to not be earthlike, and it communicates to the audience that not all planets have the same atmosphere. But that is _not_ the problem that needed to be solved here.

    • @timrosswood4259
      @timrosswood4259 3 роки тому +2

      @@JontyLevine Soft sci-fi can also use real life substances. Suspensio of disbelief is the reason why you shouldn't get upset over Doctor who not being realistic.

    • @mevolander8478
      @mevolander8478 3 роки тому +2

      The antimatter ship didnt even make any sense either, it generates antimatter using a particle collider, so the energy to do so has to come from somewhere else, even if they do have a highly efficient way of making the stuff

    • @JontyLevine
      @JontyLevine 3 роки тому +2

      @@mevolander8478 Yes. Oh God, that moment annoyed me so much. It's like saying your petrol engine gets its fuel from a built-in oil refinery. It _sounds_ clever and sciencey, but only if you don't know what either of those things are.

  • @BH-98
    @BH-98 3 роки тому +59

    Ah you doing a Jay Exci I see.

    • @jmack-ev
      @jmack-ev 3 роки тому +12

      I clicked on this video thinking it WAS Jay Exci lmao

  • @MooseyYT
    @MooseyYT 3 роки тому +8

    lmao, spot on

  • @Lumpyducksauce
    @Lumpyducksauce 3 роки тому +1

    The king returns!

  • @matthew826
    @matthew826 3 роки тому +2

    Nice video 👍,

  • @TheSmart-CasualGamer
    @TheSmart-CasualGamer 3 роки тому +3

    I actually thought the Ghost Monument wasn't that bad. It has a few problems, especially the bit with door, but I preferred it to The Woman who Fell to Earth.

  • @lucyhartwell2134
    @lucyhartwell2134 3 роки тому +2

    Also, since when could the doctor start fires by clicking her fingers?!

    • @afropro5294
      @afropro5294 3 роки тому +9

      In the episode the guy who gives Graham the cigar says you can light it with a click of your fingers, just some advanced weird cigar i guess

    • @lucyhartwell2134
      @lucyhartwell2134 3 роки тому +4

      @@afropro5294 Ah thanks, I didn't bother watching this season so I had no idea

  • @dakin2958
    @dakin2958 3 роки тому +5

    poggers